That has actually happened before a few times. One consignment dealer was covered extensively on Normal Guy Supercar’s TH-cam channel (CNC Motors) and another actually got Rob Ferretti (Superspeeders Rob aka Rob Spaghetti) and had an American Greed episode made about him- Bobby Khan. He actually escaped the country for quite a while to avoid justice. He eventually came back though. Watch vehicle consigners, they can be sketchy.
And...how do they know that the dealership wasn't involved in the fraud? Certainly they were extremely negligent to allow the car to leave their lot before the money was in the bank.
Some car guys on TH-cam covered this before. Some states have really ass backwards old laws on dealers acting as brokers and sometimes the sellers sometimes does get fucked in these fraud scenarios.
There are a few other consigners who have done similar things in the past, Bobby Khan was one of them and there’s actually an American Greed episode dedicated to him (season 10, episode 10) and CNC Motors. A lot of times, when places like these start to crash and this stuff starts happening, it’s because the consigner was running their business like a ponzi scheme. They’re using money on new sales to pay off prior ones that they skimmed money off of or used to pay expenses. Eventually, like every ponzi scheme the music stops and the consigner no longer has money to pay off liens or even the seller. Usually, there end up being 2 victims, the seller whose car was basically stolen from them and the new buyer who cannot register a car they purchased because the prior lender will not release the lien. It’s terrible for everyone but the scammer. Such a sad situation. I hope the consigner gets their come-uppins.
@@brian5o sad situation that the dealer didn't do their due diligence and can't see how covering the cost of the vehicle is lower than the pr this brought. I've seen your comment spammed, I bet you're the guy that ran the card 😂
My B#ll$hit detector went off one minute into this video. The car dealership wants us to believe that a person walked into their dealership with a stolen credit card, a fake drivers license, and a phony car loan and bought a $87,000 car. Didn't file a police report afterwards. I bet the dealership still has the car.
Impossible. I just bought a truck and used a credit card for the downpayment for the cashback. They only allowed $3k on a card. I still saved $60 and paid the card off as soon as it posted.
Happens. One instance 2 WEEKS after the loan was funded, the bank caught the fraud. Bounced the contract, 100% back on the dealership to recover the vehicle. All the bank would do was verify to the police that it was in fact a fraudulent purchase to file the stolen vehicle report.
Maybe.... 99% of Stolen Identity crimes are unsolveable because more often than not the I.D. that they used to steal that ID is stolen also they just fit the general descripition of both parties.
Why would you take a $86K car like this to a dumpy place like that? I don't get it. Go to the local Ford dealers and see what they'll offer, or use Bring a Trailer.
Wrong! The party in possession is the one whose insurance should cover it - the dealership. This was negligence, not your run of the mill theft. The dealership had the responsibility of vetting the buyer.
Dealer also made the consignment sale agreement very clear they were not responsible for repairs, damage and theft. Shitty but they covered their asses.... or they're part of the scam.
Care, Custody and Control. You are absolutely right. Sadly, the victim will likely have to sue to get their money back, will lose money in the process and that’s not even a guarantee he’ll get anything back. Sad but true. The other possibility is he may be able to track down the car and get it back with law enforcement’s help……. As long as he hasn’t yet transferred ownership.
@@ghostinchains664Ya but theft is not the same as fraud. Good thing you are not his lawyer 😂. They handed the man the keys and willingly turned the vehicle over.
In Texas, this would still count as theft... "Unlawfully appropriates property with the intent to deprive the owner of property".... If you use a fake check (aka committed fraud) to acquire something you don't intend to return, that's theft
Sounds like Hovey is in on the scam since they were so quick (and knowledgeable) to point out insurance technicalities. A pretty easy way to legit steal vehicles.
They won't because the agreement states theft or damage, and this is neither. This is fraud, and they didn't do their homework before handing over the keys. This is their fault, and any half-decent attorney could get a win against those groups.
The dealer is screwed on this one. They didn't verify ID on a near $90k purchase? Did they fill out the paperwork required for all transactions that are $10k or over?
The car wasn't stolen it was handed away to a "scammer" there's a difference if i'm sitting on the jury I'm in no way siding with the dealership you handed the keys and car over to the "scammer" it wasn't stolen in the middle of the night.
@@Sashazur there's a difference fyi Steal - take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. Scam - to deceive and defraud (someone)
Not where auto theft is concerned. If I had someone my keys, I can't tell the police that he stole my car. That's why the dealership didn't file a police report. Without a police report, no insurance company will cover a theft.
I wouldn’t doubt it. Look up both CNC Motors and Bobby Khan. 2 different consigners that committed similar frauds. Bobby Khan even got the honor of an American Greed episode (season 10, episode 10). TH-camr Superspeeders Rob was a victim of Bobby Khan and Normal Guy Supercar extensively covered CNC Motors fraud. Ironically, Doug DeMuro used to review some of CNC Motors’ more unique cars before their pyramid scheme all fell apart.
Sounds like they didn't do any due diligence because it wasn't their asset. I don't know why anyone would trust a car dealer to do anything positive for them.
All dealerships.....many a time I've used credit cards with cash back rewards put my 5k down payment on it paid it off with my actual 5k down payment money and collected my credit card rewards the next month. Currency is Currency, especially in America they prefer for us to pay on card keep people in debt and on the hook thinking they can get more then they can afford.
The scam is- that dealership sold the car as hot, to someone out/o area, or country. Gave the buyer a few days head start, now that car's getting new tags somewhere else.
Charge the dealer principle with Grand Theft Auto. Make him prove the store actually sold the car and is not involved with the fraud. Its amazing how fast issues get resolved when lawyers and cops are knocking on your door. Many years ago, I was rebuilding my engine and took all the parts to a local machine shop to get machined, clearanced, etc. The crankshaft was not a standard everyday spec. The shop called me when everything was done, and they said they couldn't find the crankshaft. Machine shop said they would gladly replace it with a standard 350 crank. I refused, had a lawyer friend call the shop. Amazingly, MY crankshaft turned up the next day. And they gave me a discount "for my patience and understanding".
He might have a chance for actual damages, the value of the car, but unless there is a state specific statute that dictates that the customer is entitled to attorney fees, the American rule will apply and he will have to pay for his own attorney. In the UK, they have the English rule, loser pays for the attorney of the prevailing party. It is possible that both parties could agree to apply the English rule, but the dealer is under no obligation to agree to such a stipulation. Additionally, most consignment agreements that I've seen, the customer waives their right to seek remedy in court, but rather seek settlement in arbitration, usually in a forum that is more business-friendly. So no judge nor jury would ever hear the case. As for emotional damages, he would have to get a licensed health professional to swear that he has sustained a debilitating mental condition, such as PTSD, as a result, and is severely limited in his ability to function in life. He would also have to provide receipts to these medical visits, and the notes of the professional which were used to make the determination of the disability
I hope he takes them to court. There is no proof of the car being stolen , not even a police report. He needs to sue and ensure the vin in registered as stolen with the state DMV asap
@@jinsu0504 Exactly, typical american, his inflated ego needs to be perceived as successful by buying that car. Perception over reality is detrimental to one's mental health.
I thought it was common practice for dealerships these days to include a tracking device when selling a car to facilitate recovery in case the buyer is delinquent on the payments.
People dont realize that, if you sue a company and it passes the motion to dismiss phase of the court, they will have to spend 20-40k before it gets to the juror and more if they lose. In this case, they will never ever ever take that chance because a juror would never rule in their favor and in deposition, things can get really nasty and they would more than likely be on the hook for attorney fees. Come to think of it, he wouldnt even need an attorney. Even if they did a bench trial which is a bit quicker and less costly for the defense, a judge would never rule in their favor since, once that car is on their property, they are now liable for anything that happens to it. I learned a long time ago from smart attorneys that you can put anything you want in a contract but if it is not supported by the law, then that is unenforceable . You cant have a contract that claims the insurance company would pay for theft when the law states that they are not liable for theft under the circumstances
Every time I see these videos whether it’s a bad repair, car stolen at the dealership, car totaled in an accident, joy riding by the repair tech, they always say it’s not their responsibility.
The dealership 100% stole this vehicle right from under his nose. It's practically right in your face when their contract states they won't be responsible for theft. Would love to know the other shady shit they do when the sun goes down...
So the dealership doesn’t check that person making a $10k credit card transaction is the person that owns the credit card? Sounds like an inside job!!!
No police report? Ran $10000 on a credit card that was stolen? Approved for a loan by who? Through who? That's not how that should have worked. Willing to bet someone at the dealership is involved.
Where's the police report filed by the dealer? Where's the security camera footage of the buyer? You can't tell me a legitimate dealer of high end cars doesn't have even a $30 security camera aimed at the showroom or finance desk. Super sus on the dealer's part
I would never give this dealership business ever again, the fact that they never filed a police report should be illegal I would put up ads all over the area saying do not shop there or what not.
Cars probably been totally disassembled , or on its way to Saudi Arabia... Iraq. I remember a man's plumbing truck he traded in ended up being on the news, on the battlefield in Iraq, had the company name and phone number. The truck really wasn't worth shipping over there,
According to the law the dealer is responsible here. This is a case of negligence, not theft, and thus any lawyer worth their name will be able to show that the "not responsible for... theft" portion of the contract is invalid.
That contract he signed to put his car on consignment is probably unenforceable, but that’s going to need the courts to decide. However, their action of not getting a police report right away and skipping steps in the verification of the buyer identity is enough to make them pay for the whole car.
This likely would be felony theft by conversion, by the dealer. The car was given to a the dealer for one reason, and they used it for some other reason. I would 100% investigate it to be an inside job by employees at the dealer as well.
Dealer wrote contract specifically the way they needed to get away with stealing an $87,000 car. They knew what they were doing. Agreed with everyone it sounds sketchy
EVERYONE can recognize that the dealership who gave the car keys to the thief is responsible for this. Pat the guy on the back and hand him the keys and tell him to have a nice day. That's theft with the full aid and cooperation of the dealership. They are responsible for sucking it up and doing the right thing and paying for THEIR mistake.
How the heck did they tell the owner “we got good news, we sold your car” and then follow up with the bad news “it was a fraudulent transaction?” First you didn’t sell the car, 2nd there’s nothing “good” about any of this wth?
40+ years in the dealership aftermarket business dealing with Auto Dealers. With a few exceptions, Their horrible reputation is probably better than it should be…And that’s saying something.
Who ever signed off on the loan would be the title holder. The institution who issued the loan would be the purchaser and owe this man his money and they can go after the man who committed fraud. Same with the credit card company if the dealership did everything on their end correctly.
The dealership is business and the professionals. They clearly scammed him and these ‘professionals’ knew exactly what they were doing by ripping him off.
@@doom4067 it is theft of the item because he did not pay for it. It’s attached to the fraud. If I hire a plumber and they do work on my house then I write a rubber check it’s both theft of services and bounced check.
Sounds like the dealership is the scammer.
So is the guy that tried to sell his car for 3x it’s value during a pandemic.
That has actually happened before a few times.
One consignment dealer was covered extensively on Normal Guy Supercar’s TH-cam channel (CNC Motors) and another actually got Rob Ferretti (Superspeeders Rob aka Rob Spaghetti) and had an American Greed episode made about him- Bobby Khan.
He actually escaped the country for quite a while to avoid justice. He eventually came back though.
Watch vehicle consigners, they can be sketchy.
@@Matthew-is1ihso how was it 3 times as much? That’s what they’re going for today. He probably only paid around $10K too much back in 2022
@@Hellcat71782 lol ignore that child, they're stuck in dream car land in low prices.
@@atlesifeyst2185every car is free if you’re brave enough
Funny how the dealership was “tricked”.
Cons conning the con men? Karma?
@@user-ft4dg3hs8sI think OP is implying the real fraud is the dealership making it look like they were defrauded, meaning it's an inside job
And used car salespeople ask why they’re vilified?
@@RoughNeckDeltaI mean, dude tried to sell his car during COVID for a huge profit. Sounds like the scammer got scammed 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@Matthew-is1ih They accepted it and "sold" it!!
It is the dealership’s responsibility because they made the sale. Fraud against the dealer, not the man who owned the car. Simple as that.
And...how do they know that the dealership wasn't involved in the fraud? Certainly they were extremely negligent to allow the car to leave their lot before the money was in the bank.
Some car guys on TH-cam covered this before. Some states have really ass backwards old laws on dealers acting as brokers and sometimes the sellers sometimes does get fucked in these fraud scenarios.
Don’t sell
Your house unless you know it’s legit !!
Simple as that in your opinion does not make it simple as that. I mean we heard from two actual experts who said it is not as simple as that.
@@josephhodges9819 You could not give me that junk
The dealer didn't file a police report? Seems suspicious.
Which craps all over their claim that the car was stolen. No insurance company is going to cover a theft without a police report.
Agreed. I think the dealership stole it. This wasn't "theft" as outlined in the dealer agreement. They GAVE his car to someone.
Does the dealer have a son named Hunter?
@Tom-mu7zy triggered boomer detected
Cops are probably getting kickbacks from the dealership to not be looking too hard at what's going on there.
The dealership is 100% going under if they don’t swallow this up
There are a few other consigners who have done similar things in the past, Bobby Khan was one of them and there’s actually an American Greed episode dedicated to him (season 10, episode 10) and CNC Motors.
A lot of times, when places like these start to crash and this stuff starts happening, it’s because the consigner was running their business like a ponzi scheme. They’re using money on new sales to pay off prior ones that they skimmed money off of or used to pay expenses. Eventually, like every ponzi scheme the music stops and the consigner no longer has money to pay off liens or even the seller.
Usually, there end up being 2 victims, the seller whose car was basically stolen from them and the new buyer who cannot register a car they purchased because the prior lender will not release the lien. It’s terrible for everyone but the scammer.
Such a sad situation. I hope the consigner gets their come-uppins.
They’ll go under regardless. Ain’t no way some mom and pop dealer can fork out 86k of profits
@@brian5o sad situation that the dealer didn't do their due diligence and can't see how covering the cost of the vehicle is lower than the pr this brought. I've seen your comment spammed, I bet you're the guy that ran the card 😂
@@brian5o*uppance
My B#ll$hit detector went off one minute into this video. The car dealership wants us to believe that a person walked into their dealership with a stolen credit card, a fake drivers license, and a phony car loan and bought a $87,000 car. Didn't file a police report afterwards. I bet the dealership still has the car.
Impossible. I just bought a truck and used a credit card for the downpayment for the cashback. They only allowed $3k on a card. I still saved $60 and paid the card off as soon as it posted.
In someone's garage that's for sure
Should have left a AirTag in it.
@@debbiblakeslee
More likely inside a shipping container on its way oversees
@@pamelot7040 true that
100% suspicious. I've never known a dealership to get played in modern history.
Inside job?
It's an inside job
Happens. One instance 2 WEEKS after the loan was funded, the bank caught the fraud. Bounced the contract, 100% back on the dealership to recover the vehicle. All the bank would do was verify to the police that it was in fact a fraudulent purchase to file the stolen vehicle report.
It happens to mom and pop car lots, but you would have to pull off a sophisticated scam to scam a dealership.
Dealership sold it to their friend then lied to the seller, I bet. Otherwise, the fraudster would be in handcuffs by now.
Maybe.... 99% of Stolen Identity crimes are unsolveable because more often than not the I.D. that they used to steal that ID is stolen also they just fit the general descripition of both parties.
Good job Kens exposing Hovey. Avoid this place at all costs they are way overpriced.
He did get taken on the gt. Dealership stole it and resold it
They are NOT overpriced...They are practically free!
Why would you take a $86K car like this to a dumpy place like that? I don't get it. Go to the local Ford dealers and see what they'll offer, or use Bring a Trailer.
Wrong! The party in possession is the one whose insurance should cover it - the dealership.
This was negligence, not your run of the mill theft. The dealership had the responsibility of vetting the buyer.
Dealer also made the consignment sale agreement very clear they were not responsible for repairs, damage and theft. Shitty but they covered their asses.... or they're part of the scam.
Wrong
Care, Custody and Control. You are absolutely right. Sadly, the victim will likely have to sue to get their money back, will lose money in the process and that’s not even a guarantee he’ll get anything back. Sad but true.
The other possibility is he may be able to track down the car and get it back with law enforcement’s help……. As long as he hasn’t yet transferred ownership.
@ghostinchains664 this isn't theft. They handed the keys to the fraudulent buyer.
@@ghostinchains664Ya but theft is not the same as fraud. Good thing you are not his lawyer 😂. They handed the man the keys and willingly turned the vehicle over.
Stealership
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Best. Comment. Ever. Shine on you crazy diamond.
Always
It is not covered because the dealership gave the person the car. The car was not stolen. The dealership should be the one paying the bill.
Yes. Handing someone the keys is not auto theft.
@@doom4067Theft via fraud is still theft.
Right this isn't theft or damage. This is 100% on kens
In Texas, this would still count as theft... "Unlawfully appropriates property with the intent to deprive the owner of property".... If you use a fake check (aka committed fraud) to acquire something you don't intend to return, that's theft
How is it theft when you willingly give the car to the "thief"?
That dealer is involved for sure, or they're unbelievably dumb.
That's why it's not called theft. It's called fraud.
Sounds like Hovey is in on the scam since they were so quick (and knowledgeable) to point out insurance technicalities.
A pretty easy way to legit steal vehicles.
The issue here is that it isn't theft if you hand him the keys. I don't think they'd survive court, but it has to get there first.
They won't because the agreement states theft or damage, and this is neither. This is fraud, and they didn't do their homework before handing over the keys. This is their fault, and any half-decent attorney could get a win against those groups.
Don’t take your car to a janky used car dealership.
As soon as someone say, your insurance will take care of it and their not the insurance company. They admitted guilt on their end.
Dealership needs to be sued and the Insurance company should also sue the dealership.
The dealership didn't file a police report? 👀👀
Dealers probably got it stashed in a storage locker. Car will be "discovered" in 20 yrs and worth $150k.
100% and inside job
That would be covered by the dealers Errors and Omissions Insurance.... oh, they don't have that?! The dealer needs to pay the man.
The dealer is screwed on this one. They didn't verify ID on a near $90k purchase? Did they fill out the paperwork required for all transactions that are $10k or over?
Dealer was in on the scam
This is so glaringly obvious...
I love that orange Mustang ❤ this dealership is a bunch of scumbag ripoff artists😢
Halloween Special, being pumpkin orange. 😁😁
The car wasn't stolen it was handed away to a "scammer" there's a difference if i'm sitting on the jury I'm in no way siding with the dealership you handed the keys and car over to the "scammer" it wasn't stolen in the middle of the night.
The car is gone due to criminal means. That’s stolen.
@@Sashazur there's a difference fyi
Steal - take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
Scam - to deceive and defraud (someone)
Not where auto theft is concerned. If I had someone my keys, I can't tell the police that he stole my car. That's why the dealership didn't file a police report. Without a police report, no insurance company will cover a theft.
So they don't have any picture or video of the scammer to hand to the police and maybe they'll be able to catch the thief?
@@BookJay35 Are they not the same? Different means, same outcome.
What a shady dealership. Why would anyone do business with them? They messed up and theyre on the hook
This stinks to high heavens.
lol I use that line a lot also from the movie Beverly Hills Cop lol inspector TODD
@@Elkgrove916he’s plagiarizing
It’s in a shipping container headed overseas they legally stole it
Dealer on it as well. No scam all team work to steal the car.
I wouldn’t doubt it. Look up both CNC Motors and Bobby Khan. 2 different consigners that committed similar frauds. Bobby Khan even got the honor of an American Greed episode (season 10, episode 10).
TH-camr Superspeeders Rob was a victim of Bobby Khan and Normal Guy Supercar extensively covered CNC Motors fraud. Ironically, Doug DeMuro used to review some of CNC Motors’ more unique cars before their pyramid scheme all fell apart.
Anyone that pays $80,000 for a mustang is out of their mind
It’s not just a Mustang. It’s a Shelby.
Doesn't sound like "calling Kens" did anything for this guy!
A dealership not taking responsibility for something they messed up. Crazy never heard that before!
Sounds like they didn't do any due diligence because it wasn't their asset. I don't know why anyone would trust a car dealer to do anything positive for them.
If you buy a flashy car you can't afford, why would you have any better sense in picking someone to sell it for you???
I’d sue the mess out of the dealership.
The Dealership is definitely the responsible party.
When it comes to contract law, unclear or missing language in the contract generally goes against the party that wrote the agreement.
Definitely do not sell your vehicle at this dealership. What a horrible company!
No police report? car's not even reported stolen if it shows up somewhere?
No insurance company will cover a theft without a police report.
Nah, dealership should pat for this. They are at fault
WHO THE FUCK TAKES A DOWN PAYMENT FROM A GODDAMN CREDIT CARD?????
All dealerships.....many a time I've used credit cards with cash back rewards put my 5k down payment on it paid it off with my actual 5k down payment money and collected my credit card rewards the next month. Currency is Currency, especially in America they prefer for us to pay on card keep people in debt and on the hook thinking they can get more then they can afford.
A lot..
And without checking to make sure it’s the person that actually owns the credit card!
Tricked my ass!!!!
Sounds like someone who knows about some loopholes stole this man's vehicle.
@@ZeitGeist_TV its called a Hot Carl.
The scam is- that dealership sold the car as hot, to someone out/o area, or country. Gave the buyer a few days head start, now that car's getting new tags somewhere else.
Cars like this end up in shipping containers headed overseas
How could the dealership say there was any good news.
$87K a rip off!
It’s a gt500 not a normal gt
@@MV-nt4bq still not worth that kind of money!
For you. People have different hobbies.
@@MissionaryForMexico According to you. But then again, no car on earth is worth more than 25k
@@stevebeckerman4214 I never said either! You must be a liberal!
"good news is we sold your car" TF
This comment is so underrated. You should have way more likes.
I'm in Kerrville and in the market for another car. I won't be shopping at Hovey
Perhaps you should consider them, they're giving away free cars.
Hope Steve Lehto does a video on this
Find a print version of this story and send it to him. I want to hear his take on this also!!!!
Here's a tip; don't use shady used car dealer to sell you car. Sell it yourself. The lack of common sense in the country is rampant!!
Charge the dealer principle with Grand Theft Auto. Make him prove the store actually sold the car and is not involved with the fraud. Its amazing how fast issues get resolved when lawyers and cops are knocking on your door.
Many years ago, I was rebuilding my engine and took all the parts to a local machine shop to get machined, clearanced, etc. The crankshaft was not a standard everyday spec. The shop called me when everything was done, and they said they couldn't find the crankshaft. Machine shop said they would gladly replace it with a standard 350 crank. I refused, had a lawyer friend call the shop. Amazingly, MY crankshaft turned up the next day. And they gave me a discount "for my patience and understanding".
That’s so messed up! Sounds like an inside job. I would sue. It was the dealership responsibility
Hopefully he sues then for the full amount + lawyer fees and emotional damages.
He might have a chance for actual damages, the value of the car, but unless there is a state specific statute that dictates that the customer is entitled to attorney fees, the American rule will apply and he will have to pay for his own attorney. In the UK, they have the English rule, loser pays for the attorney of the prevailing party. It is possible that both parties could agree to apply the English rule, but the dealer is under no obligation to agree to such a stipulation. Additionally, most consignment agreements that I've seen, the customer waives their right to seek remedy in court, but rather seek settlement in arbitration, usually in a forum that is more business-friendly. So no judge nor jury would ever hear the case. As for emotional damages, he would have to get a licensed health professional to swear that he has sustained a debilitating mental condition, such as PTSD, as a result, and is severely limited in his ability to function in life. He would also have to provide receipts to these medical visits, and the notes of the professional which were used to make the determination of the disability
The dealer blew it by not specifying what type of _full coverage_
He will and with a good lawyer he will win. But he will never collect since the dealer will never pay or file bankruptcy and discharge all debts.
@@BoltRMDid the word “full” confuse you?
@@Matthew-is1ih Did you miss the part of the video where the lawyer explained Full coverage does not cover fraud?
Hovey and his sons are bad simce they started on broadway jst look at there bbb record
Cheapskate Hovey dealership
No tracking system...... plus the dealership is responsible
I hope he takes them to court. There is no proof of the car being stolen , not even a police report. He needs to sue and ensure the vin in registered as stolen with the state DMV asap
Having cameras all over they can't get the "fraudster" 🤧buushit
Did they SHIP the car, or did the "fraudster" come pick it up?
$87,000 for a car? That's the real crime.
OR purchasing it without knowing ones financial limits....contributing to inflation ...is that not a real crime in and of itself?
@@jinsu0504 Exactly, typical american, his inflated ego needs to be perceived as successful by buying that car. Perception over reality is detrimental to one's mental health.
Ummmm there are cars that cost WAY more than that. What do you.think something like a Lamborghini or Bugatti cost?
This. I gave a $87,000 car. But I saved up for luke 10 years and bought that shit outright. No leasing or financing for me
Its a GT500 with a limited spec
Why doesn't an expensive car like this have LoJack or a tracker of some kind?? Seriously??
Takes less than 5 minutes to rip it out. How do you think they are stealing all of those shitpack dodges.
I definitely want to see an update on this in the future.
Thank you for exposing the real thief, Hovey. Good to know not to do business with this dealership.
I thought it was common practice for dealerships these days to include a tracking device when selling a car to facilitate recovery in case the buyer is delinquent on the payments.
People dont realize that, if you sue a company and it passes the motion to dismiss phase of the court, they will have to spend 20-40k before it gets to the juror and more if they lose. In this case, they will never ever ever take that chance because a juror would never rule in their favor and in deposition, things can get really nasty and they would more than likely be on the hook for attorney fees. Come to think of it, he wouldnt even need an attorney.
Even if they did a bench trial which is a bit quicker and less costly for the defense, a judge would never rule in their favor since, once that car is on their property, they are now liable for anything that happens to it. I learned a long time ago from smart attorneys that you can put anything you want in a contract but if it is not supported by the law, then that is unenforceable . You cant have a contract that claims the insurance company would pay for theft when the law states that they are not liable for theft under the circumstances
The real crime is why would you pay almost a $100K for a Mustard...
Worth it more than those cyber punks lol.
It’s a gt500 that’s what they’re worth
Max $15,000
Mustang*
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Every time I see these videos whether it’s a bad repair, car stolen at the dealership, car totaled in an accident, joy riding by the repair tech, they always say it’s not their responsibility.
The dealership 100% stole this vehicle right from under his nose. It's practically right in your face when their contract states they won't be responsible for theft. Would love to know the other shady shit they do when the sun goes down...
Avoid this dealership at all cost. Such scammers and I hope the car owner wins the lawsuit!
The dealership has an inside player absolutely this is 7 years in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice talking to you I know all about scams😂
For sure, they stole that car.
So the dealership doesn’t check that person making a $10k credit card transaction is the person that owns the credit card? Sounds like an inside job!!!
No police report? Ran $10000 on a credit card that was stolen? Approved for a loan by who? Through who? That's not how that should have worked. Willing to bet someone at the dealership is involved.
Where's the police report filed by the dealer? Where's the security camera footage of the buyer? You can't tell me a legitimate dealer of high end cars doesn't have even a $30 security camera aimed at the showroom or finance desk. Super sus on the dealer's part
If a dealer can’t afford to buy a vehicle I wouldn’t personally trust them, the banks don’t.
They sold it for parts, pocketed the money and are acting like their client got robbed.
A Gt 500 Shelby? Nah, it was not parted out, it was shipped out of country to a new buyer. Too valuable to part out
I would never give this dealership business ever again, the fact that they never filed a police report should be illegal I would put up ads all over the area saying do not shop there or what not.
Didnt they check the scammers ID when he used the stolen credit card for the down payment? Nah they trying to finnese our guy 😒
Sounds like the dealer stole his car.
Cars probably been totally disassembled , or on its way to Saudi Arabia... Iraq. I remember a man's plumbing truck he traded in ended up being on the news, on the battlefield in Iraq, had the company name and phone number. The truck really wasn't worth shipping over there,
The auto dealer has insurance or should have insurance for this kind of thing to happen. Auto dealer's coverage form, has coverage for fraud/theft.
How do we know the dealer was in on the scam?
With all the laws and people following the science and common sense, why does crap like this keep happening?
Probably because laws typically defy common sense.
This isn't theft. The dealer handed the guy the keys.
SECURITY CAMERAS WENT BAD THAT DAY, THAT IS THE ONLY GREY MATTER IN THIS CASE.
HOW MANY OTHER CASES FROM THIS DEALER?.
They did him a favor, now he can get a Tesla!
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86k gone and you telling me my insurance company will take care of it ... just call the cops cause im going to jail
According to the law the dealer is responsible here. This is a case of negligence, not theft, and thus any lawyer worth their name will be able to show that the "not responsible for... theft" portion of the contract is invalid.
Take it all the way bro. Do not give up this fight. 💪🙏
That contract he signed to put his car on consignment is probably unenforceable, but that’s going to need the courts to decide.
However, their action of not getting a police report right away and skipping steps in the verification of the buyer identity is enough to make them pay for the whole car.
This likely would be felony theft by conversion, by the dealer. The car was given to a the dealer for one reason, and they used it for some other reason.
I would 100% investigate it to be an inside job by employees at the dealer as well.
Lmao 😂 the stupidity 🤣 sounds like the company knew exactly what they were doing.
in short, never trust hovey to sell your vehicle.
Dealer wrote contract specifically the way they needed to get away with stealing an $87,000 car. They knew what they were doing. Agreed with everyone it sounds sketchy
ONLY A DEALER CAN RIP YOU OFF WHEN YOU BUY A NEW CAR, BRING THE CAR IN FOR REPAIRS & AGAIN WHEN THEY SELL IT FOR YOU.
EVERYONE can recognize that the dealership who gave the car keys to the thief is responsible for this.
Pat the guy on the back and hand him the keys and tell him to have a nice day. That's theft with the full aid
and cooperation of the dealership. They are responsible for sucking it up and doing the right thing and paying
for THEIR mistake.
How the heck did they tell the owner “we got good news, we sold your car” and then follow up with the bad news “it was a fraudulent transaction?” First you didn’t sell the car, 2nd there’s nothing “good” about any of this wth?
40+ years in the dealership aftermarket business dealing with Auto Dealers. With a few exceptions, Their horrible reputation is probably better than it should be…And that’s saying something.
Who ever signed off on the loan would be the title holder. The institution who issued the loan would be the purchaser and owe this man his money and they can go after the man who committed fraud. Same with the credit card company if the dealership did everything on their end correctly.
wow man is better then me😭
The dealership is business and the professionals. They clearly scammed him and these ‘professionals’ knew exactly what they were doing by ripping him off.
Villarreal doesn't have a copy of the police report? Is he just sitting on his butt waiting for everyone else to do something? SMDH
So the dealership fucks up and loses a whole ass car, but *his* insurance is the one thats liable. Makes perfect sense
There should be a fraud and theft report by the dealership
It's not theft because they gave him the keys. They should have fraud coverage in their own insurance.
@@doom4067 it is theft of the item because he did not pay for it. It’s attached to the fraud. If I hire a plumber and they do work on my house then I write a rubber check it’s both theft of services and bounced check.
Never trust any dealership.