Imagine being Tokyo in 2020 and COVID came and delayed the games by a year and still people couldn’t travel so you couldn’t make up those costs in revenue.
That Tokyo games could have wayyy be cheaper if they didn’t built new venues like the new national stadium and aquatic center but instead just renovate the already existing numerous venues in Tokyo. They were doomed from the start to begin with.
I think it's a good idea to have ALL the previous host cities do the rotation for the Olympics that way all the permanent structures can be reused and the host cities already know what they're doing
Not necessarily. Politicians change, government workers change, employees change. I bet there are very few people who get to experience working on the Olympics several times in their lives.
There are 23 previous hosts for the summer games. Having all of the doing a rotation would mean that each city hosts the games roughly every 100 years. After this time all the knowledge is long forgotten and the infrastructure is long gone or had to be renovated several times.
@@KiHToGwe can exclude cities like Rio where their Olympic venues have fallen into disrepair. They clearly weren’t up for the challenge of hosting the Olympics.
@@KiHToG It's a good idea to rotate, but it doesn't have to include all 23 previous cities. Evaluations on previously used infrastructure should be done to determine if sports avenues can be cheaply renovated or reused.
I am Parisian. Never been to past Olympics, but as Parisians, we b*tch A LOT about our city, more than anyone else in the world, believe me. We b*tched especially about how the Olympics disrupted the city. And yet I have to say, we have been *very* pleasantly surprised how well it went. So much better than anyone of us thought, so yes it was a success. I don't think any French now is complaining over how it went. The police was everywhere because we really really feared a terrorist attack, but the 45,000 volonteers did a fantastic job and noone got lost. There were almost no queues at the venues, everything went pretty smoothly.
Watching the Olympics, you can tell how they managed to save so much money. They didnt build a bunch of permanent stadiums and venues. They turned the city into the venue. All of the locations were either already in place or are well constructed temporary venues. Famous landmarks became arenas. Its amazing. France knows exactly what they're doing.
That's not a surprise and it's already successful but people only want to hammer that it's a "failure" because of the opening ceremonies which is a very invalid argument
@maplemiles3381 The opening ceremony is pretty much a massive success. Despite the rain and the lack of a rehearsal, the entire thing went off without any issues. Literally, the only bad thing about it was NBC's awful coverage of it.
On the contrary, the opening woke ceremony was just the start of probably the worst games in history, cardboard beds, insufficient food, triathlon competitors who ended up ill because of e-coli, male boxers in female competitions and the IOC encouraging it. Nobody wants to watch the olympics anymore. Paris managed to ruin them. Good luck, Los Angeles. No doubt they are planning even more woke games, perhaps they'll make sure men invade all womens competitions
Chef les jeux ont commencer aujourd'hui arrête de chialer. En mode les 2 semaines de jeu vont abattre le CA de ton resto MDRRR. Surtout que l'impacte touristiques des jeux sur une ville se fait sur l'année N+1 donc arrêtez de regarder le bout de votre nez bande d'aigri
Paris is perfect for hosting the olympics because they already have what some host cities don’t all have: 1) EXISTING Infrastructure. 2) A well connected public transport system. 3) Tourism 4) Money 5) More than 100 years to study other hosts’ failures in hosting the olympics 😂
even with all those advantages, France cant manage a proper Olympics since many athletes are complaining about everything, heck even one prefered to sleep outside rather than their dorm
@@ernestogastelum9123 They complained about the Olympic village. An important part of the Olympic experience yes but not the hole thing. No complaints about the infrastructure of sporting events, organization of events, transportation.
Well you know what , i prefer something that cost less ând is more intelligent in thé way things are done even though it causes a bit of inconvenience to people. WE re used to some much comfort. There are countries where thé conditions are way worse ând WE have much more comfort than a lot of humans in History. So stop complaining. You sound immature.
I remember they planned on having dedicated RER trains from CDG to originally be free for spectators before coming back and doubling the original price.
You might be right about the operating costs (as suggested in the video, they probably underestimated security costs). However all the infrastructure was finished on time and accounted for properly. As said in the video, the only permanent facilities built specifically for the Games are the Olympic village (that will be fully inhabited by the end of the year), the new swimming pool in Saint-Denis (a densely populated suburb city that will use it year round), and a new multiusage sports complex near Porte de La Chapelle (that will immediately be used by locals too). The big overspending in previous games were because of infrastructure costs, big projets that weren't necessarily finished on time, and not that useful long term. Paris avoided to undergo this kind of vanity project and that's why they kept the infrastructure cost low. It should be noted that the infrastructure cost does not cover anything regarding transportation networks - the things that opened for the Olympics were in project even before the bid, and winning the bid just accelerated those projects a bit so some of the parts could be finished on time. There's a couple that couldn't be finished this year because Covid slowed construction down a bit, but line 15 will start opening next year, which is quite a bit sooner than the original plan (first segment was planned for 2030 before Paris won the Olympics bid).
@@ashurasama Hopefully, most future Olympics games will be hosted by countries / cities that don't attempt to spend 10's of billions (or more), turning it in into a vanity project, where much of the facilities built sit unused after the games.
Yeah and the microchips in everyone who attended and the frequencies injected into eyes of viewers. Those are the true costs going forward for the olympic lizard agenda.
I was around as a very, very young one. during the Los Angeles 84' Olympics. We did spectacularly well back then. And we'll do it again in 4 years. Not a scam in the L.A. Olympics, as all infrastructure is in place.
LA has actually been doing wonderful work in recent years upgrading it's transit. They've also invested in a bunch of new light rail lines. It's the sort of investment that's GOOD that the Olympics requires it, because it'll be useful for decades to come.
I don't think metro saturation will be an issue Paris was absolutely empty of locals 3 days before the Olympics, everyone who could leave has left! The only people in Paris right now are tourists and people who have to work.
and they work remote, from home. Companies have given orders. Parisian will spend a month working from their living room, so I agree, no metro saturation to fear
Bruh, that Argentina soccer game was a farce. No surprise it happened in France, after that Champions League final debacle in Paris! I mean they pepper sprayed poor kids wearing Liverpool jerseys!! 😢 smh.
And LOOK AT IT NOW! Paris 2024 just ended and the results were…OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!! WOW Flawless in every way, amazing venues, transportation was impeccable, EVERYTHING WAS INSANELY AMAZING!!! Thank Paris for showing other ways to do the games, celebrate sports and performances, do things differently and epically! From outdoor ceremonies to cheap costs and safety…a master class to all future Olympic Games. 🫶🏻😘🥰 Merci Paris!!!
Paris olympics deserves more credit than they get. They pulled off the cheapest olympics ever WITHOUT any problems hosting the games. Sure there might be a little inconvenience for a few athletes but those are far and few in between. The point of the olympics are executing the games and Paris olympics has done so well. I'd rather give a little inconvenience to some athletes to lower the cost of olympics than having my nation go into debt crisis just to save face
Well, there _were_ problems. Mainly the food. It wasn’t sufficient enough for the athletes, and when you’re going to compete in physically demanding sports, that is much more than just “a little inconvenience.”
@@hwtvi3466 It's a problem that lasted 2 days while they increased the quantities. The lack of food was at the free cafeteria. In the village there was a supermarket where athletes could buy food and they could leave the village to eat in town too.
Paris reinvented the Olympics games (in the spirit of the Baron Coubertin) by bringing the games within the city and making the city a huge playground for the games. It was perfect: the organisation, security, competitions, shows,... we saw great athletes in great arenas and stadiums. Happy and joyfull people from all the world were gathered for the sport, and that was the essential and successful AIM of the games. Of course, there will be bitter or jealous people who will say that it was not good, for those there is nothing we can do, as for those who continue to believe that the earth is flat.
Paris was already spending a fortune improving its transportation infrastructure when they won the bid anyway. Reason: Paris is heavily investing in improving Paris Metro and RER regional rail and building out a tram system to reduce the city's over-dependence on automobiles (a problem that existed in the city even _before_ World War II!). That plus plentiful existing facilities meant the costs was low.
@@ctgottapee9020 The streets of Paris were _never_ designed to accommodate automobiles. No wonder overcrowding of the streets were a big problem for many decades.
Not only that, they also transform a lot of 4 lanes streets to 2 lanes and replace the previous lanes with bike lanes and trees. Many people working in Paris had to sell their cars because the traffic is impossible to navigate if commute every day by car to work.
A "fortune" is a very relative term here. The budget for the Grand Paris Express project is large sure, with about 40 billions, but they get a LOT more for their money than pretty much any other developed English-speaking country. They're building 200 kilometers of new metro lines, with 4 entirely new express lines, 3 extensions to 2 existing metro lines (these extensions are already open). 68 new metro stations on the new lines, and about 15 or 16 on the extensions. Plus about 225 or 250 fancy new fully automated trains. 90% of this ginormous metro expansion is built deep underground, often in terrible soil conditions, with only about 10% that is elevated or at grade. One of the new lines, M15, is a humongous fully deep underground loop line around the core city, that will become the world's longest underground metro line with 75 kilometers, and at the same time the longest continuous passenger carrying tunnel. Plus, in a bit over the last decade and a half, they've developed their tramway network from 2 to 14 lines. Tramway lines that were pretty cheap to build despite having all the bells and whistles, like green tracks, and being built in some extremely dense areas. (Some tramway or LRT lines in the US cost as much as a full fledged underground metro in Paris, even though the Parisian soil is a nightmare to dig through). They've also recently expanded RER line E to the West (the RER is Paris' regional express heavy metro network that has 5 massive lines with branches). The first phase of this Westward extension consists of a deep bored 8 kilometer tunnel under Paris' core and the modern business district of La Défense, and 3 huge new stations with great architecture. Circular tramway line T3a was also recently extended by 7 stations to the West counterclockwise. They're also in the middle of a huge rolling stock renewal campaign. They've ordered more than a thousand trains In a few years, all metro lines will have new or fairly recent trains, at least 4 out of 5 RER lines will have new or recent trains. Same for the Transilien suburban network that has already received 360 NAT trains and 145 Regio 2N trains, while the only tramway line equipped with old stock is currently receiving fancy new trams. So the budgets of the GPE, other expansions and rolling stock renewals may be large, they get a ton for the investment they've made. The same in the US would be in the several hundreds of billions of dollars. So, I'd say they've done a great job managing costs and keeping them low.
@@KyrilPG Paris Grand Express is an amazing project because they are essentially building what amounts to a loop line around Paris, with a lot of deep underground tunnel boring. The project won't be completed until at least late 2029. Anyway, given the extreme street overcrowding with automobiles and the air pollution that dates before World War II, no wonder they're spending a fortune on all these mass transit extensions. Just getting the cars off the streets allowed them to start building a bicycle lane network, which is going to be extensive by the early 2030's.
@@ctgottapee9020 While tourism and Olympics are often not the same, unless we're talking about the several hundred thousands tourists traveling to see the Olympics in cities such as London, Paris and hopefully LA.
@@jimutjayadev There was a loss of interest for the Olympics before the Olympics and they managed to up the viewership by 81%. The sponsors are really happy so, yes, he’s right.
Overall the Paris Olympics were a great sucess, thanks to the unrelenting efforts of all the tireless workers from top to down, the cheerful welcome and the immense feel of fun and pleasure of the Games! Bravo!
i was driving trains during the olympics and it was almost like a vacation :p i mean people were smiling. they weren't blocking the doors... it was nice :)
What they are saying is not completely accurate. L.A. in 1984 actually made a decent profit on the Olympics. And by its success was able to encourage other city's to play host, as before that time just like today no one wanted to host because of the cost.
No city bid for 1984. LA only agreed under one condition: to use venues already built instead of building new ones. IOC agreed because there was no other city/option. This allowed LA to make a small profit (~$200 mil) BUT instead sticking to the LA model the IOC went back to demanding more from the host cities which inevitably led back to cost overruns. With little to no cost/risk to the IOC, what is the incentive to change.
@@primewave And they should do the same for 2028. LA already has all the facilities needed, and we do not need to waste land and money to build new ones. If anything, that money should be used to improve public transportation instead.
@@mangos2888They said every Olympics since the 1960s had went over budget L.A. 1984 made a profit so it wasn't so bad for them. Where does it mention 40 years?
I disagree with the one permanent host city idea but I think all new infrastructure built by a host city should be sustainable and used for something else after the Olympics
Easier said than done. Saying it should be sustainable or whatever doesn't do anything if no solutions are actually offered to make it so. A permanent host city IS sustainable. Propose an alternative or it might as well just stay the way it currently is, a financial blackhole for cities.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 what I mean by sustainable is that any new buildings built for the purposes of hosting Olympics will be able to be converted into something else after, for example how Paris is turning the Olympic Village they built into low income/student housing after the games are over. That is sustainable.
That was the plan for a long time, especially for Rio games. The olympics didn't even end before buildings were abandoned and started decaying. Only real maintenence that went on was draining of the pools to minimise sitting water for mosquitos.
London's Olympics was all about legacy. You can't put the cost of the new structures just as a cost of the Olympics as all the newly built venues are still in use some 12 years on. The Olympic Park in London was built on an ex industrial waste land that had already been earmarked for regeneration. One of the major overspend was the removal of toxic substances from the land, which would have needed to be spent to make the land usable. Putting the cost purely down to 2012 Olympics is wrong as the planned transformation of the area has worked, turning a one waste land into a vibrant and still growing part of the city.
@edc1569 the regeneration using the foundations created for the Olympics is still happening. That why you can't look at the cost of the London Olympics as just those few weeks in 2012
I was living in London in 2005 and when I heard London won the Olympics for 2012 it I thought Oh god NO. I am sure many people in London at the time did not want the Olympics because of the problems the city was facing regarding old and creaking 100 year old transport infrastructure for a large population not mention millions of tourists. But fair play to the British Olympic Organisation Group they did a good job in 7 years to make 2012 Olympics beneficial to London rather than a burden. By using cleverly using existing infrastructure but building brand new sports stadiums. Like the wonderful Olympic Stadium which has NOT become a white elephant but has become the Wembley Stadium of East London since 2012 hosting American teams and sports and other events. Wembley Stadium itself got an upgrade as old stadium was demolished a lot of it due to the follow up and after London's 2005 bid. While London might have seemed like a mess in 2005 and the last city you wanted to host the Olympics in the 7 years to 2012. London infrastructure in many cases got upgraded and a new tube line and tube stations in East London. A new Cable Car and Monorail systems were launched over the Thames river in East London and were part of London's extensive and world famous and historic Tube network. All this was benefits flowing from 2012 Games. None of this would have happened in London's case if the Games did not go to it in 2012.So in London's case as I am sure it will be in Paris case the Olympic Games was actually a big boon for the city post 2012. The Games also managed to rebuild a once derelict forgotten part of London and made it now a nice part of London to move to. After the Docks closed in late 1970s and throughout the 1980s and then things started to improve for that part of London in the 1990s as the British Govt was looking to develop that part of London post Docks era. London Eye was built around 1993-95. Still derelict but improving leading to 2000 millennium celebrations by Tony Blair's Govt with building of Millennium Dome now O2 arena. However until 2005 things were moving slow in that area of London. This was not the case before 2005. So in London's case the 2012 Olympics was definitely benefited the city. However in 2005 when the bid was launched people wondered if it would end up like what happened to Rio 2016 or Athens 2004. But it didn't a lot of it because the British Olympic Bid was headed by talented people and even former Olympic Gold medalists like Sebastian Coe. Talented people who knew how to get things done and the Brits had a lot of such people working on the 2012 Olympic Games to make sure it did not go the way of what happens to Athens 2004 or Rio 2016.
This new way of organizing the Games inaugurated in Paris is very interesting, because until now only countries with solid financial resources could, without risk, organize such a ceremony. However, to specialize two or three sites to organize the games would be very frustrating for emerging countries.
@@alvinmah6148i went last week of June and didn’t see any weird pick pocketing. Just be mindful to not have your valuables laying around and do not flex or bring any unnecessary attention and you should be good. I stayed in clamart btw which I really liked. 30 min bus from Eiffel Tower
Looks like the 2028 LA Summer Olympics will take advantage of the plentiful existing sports venues within the county. Hopefully, we'll actually make money hosting the Olympics as we did in 1984. Plus we have the local population to take advantage of much of the infrastructure investments post Olympics.
@@Zizians We'll see if they'll encourage residents to vacation and put their home up for rent for the visitors during the Olympics, and to shift commercial trucking to nights like they did so successfully back in 1984. I was a college student back then, and the traffic was actually much better during the 84 games than normal. Plus today, we have some OK metro rails serving most of the sports venues that didn't exist back in 84.
@@Zizians Just like with all these big events, the locals will leave the city prior to the event and tourists who would normally visit the city will stay away, so congestion will actually be below normal.
Fun fact, and true this time : they're actually made from scraps of the Eiffel Tower (maintenance requires replacing some parts once in a while, and the city - owner of the building - decided to recycle the last batch of old parts to make the medals).
Also Green transport that is not fit for purpose late and one team was told 45minute journey - actually turned out to be 2 HOURS. They have relocated to a hotel near the venue.
@@ajudygarlandfan3019 Like stress of performing wasn't enough to think about.... I believe it was S Koreans who moved to a hotel. I suppose not everyone has a budget/intelligence to do so.
Great video. For the idea of having just a few hosts, we should not forget the national political costs of the Olympic Games. Even if it’s in fact a low budget for France, for example, people feel like it’s still a waste of money + all the disturbances for the cities where there are events. As mentioned, transportation is saturated, there are security zones that make even pedestrian traffic difficult, etc.
@@fujin09 If those 30 million inhabitants needed those facilities, they would had already made them. They didn't. So it was excessive and budget better used elsewhere.
I'm amazed. As a French person, I hear daily that the Olympics will be a disaster, whereas other countries actually take inspiration from it. Blaming. So French... I guess.
French people actually document themselves a bit better than this video. The budget was 3.2 billion initially (you can check online yourself), in the video it says the 9.8 annonced is going to be respected... true if you update the planned budget every week, you end up meeting it, but it remains 3 times the cost allocated initially and taken into account for the cost-benefit analysis. All homeless people and students in Paris were forced out of the city. And the organisers are completely out of touch with reality : they planned the triathlon to be swam in the Seine with no backup, so because the Seine is too dirty to be swam in (which everyone except 1 or 2 politicians had anticipated) the current plan is to remove the swimming part of the triathlon ... I mean this is shameful. Sure I am French, I love my country and I hope it works out but I fear this is going to be a complete mess of an Olympics game and French economy is going to take a serious hit. (Mais en vrai on croise les doigts)
@@fourniervictor9354ne soyons pas défaitistes, croisons les doigts car ça promet d'être un événement tout simplement incroyable, comme on n'en a jamais vécu à Paris. Concernant les nageurs, Philippe Lucas a largement raison : ils auront au pire 2 boutons sur le c*l mais ils pourront nager. La Seine est propre comparée aux eaux libres dans lesquelles ils vont habituellement nager pour les compétitions. Avant les JO de Barcelone, la plage là bas n'existait pas en ville et était impraticable et bien trop sale pour s'y baigner. Quelle image a-t-on des plages de Barcelone aujourd'hui ? Imbaignables ?
What did you expect? This is what happens when you utilize existing infrastructure instead of building brand new facilities that will only get used for a couple weeks and then that's it. It just gets abandoned afterwards. I'm looking at you Rio.
4:04 How is the 2008 Beijing Olympics only 2% over budget when earlier in the video, you showed another chart that showed Beijing had spent $45 billion on a $20 billion budget? That's 125% over budget, not 2%.
@@chrischaseling4421 The exchange rates are different at the time of the budget and the itemised real spending. In 2008 Global Financial Crisis affected USA badly, USD depreciated much against Chinese Yuan🤓
@@dongiovanni8899what? The ratio has nothing to do with the exchange rates. You're not comparing two currencies like spent $45billion USD but budget is $20billion Yuan.
Some medias went to Paris to only show 2 or 3 bad news daily out of 100 good events happening daily. Sad and petty. Despite many issues, Covid 19, Yellow vests, political issues, french are pulling out a great Olympics event. Can't wait for the opening ceremony tomorrow with over 300 000 people. Great and Good luck for all participants....
the paris olympics is a fiasco on multiple levels: paris looks like a prison with all the locked fencing to protect against terrorits. it is neither pretty or tourist friendly. the olympic committee did not include air conditioning in the olympic village so each country brought thousands of individual air conditioners...how is that carbon footprint going to look. rather than spending 1.5 billion euros to improve the lives of parisians and the french, it was spent to clean up the seine. the swimming competitions could have been held in pre-existing swim stadiums. 1.5 billion euros wasted to serve the ego of mayor hidalgoand president macaroni. free public transport was proposed in the initial olympic plan. during the olympics public transport is not free but triple the normal price. this olympics in paris is a complete failure and a joke and horrible treatment of the local residents.
This Paris Olympic Games is becoming a huge success. That’s why I like to stay focused on 2024 instead of looking forward to 2028. LA should of never ever been awarded another Olympic Games but they are. LA is getting worse with homeless population and it’s getting out of control. Paris has lots of rich history and alot better than California and LA
they pulled it off by appliying most of infrastructure budget on state budget and not on olympics budget. For example: La seine swimming project on Paris and la seine comiteee budget. And they outsourced multiple sports infrastucture of other cities of France like Lyon, Lille, Marseille, Tahiti etc...
@partzrivalcamaya845 I agree. The river cleaning would be a great benefit to the people and the economy... if it was actually a thing. This will likely be a temporary measure. Not only is the river not actual clean currently after all the money that was spent, France is running out of money (like most countries), and the Olympics is turning out to be a financial disaster. So it is a very likely outcome that they will bail on the plans instead of continuing to clean up the river and improving infrastructure to keep it clean.
The obvious reason underpinning the underwhelmingly low costs of hosting the Paris Olympics is the existing top-notch infrastructure. As mentioned in the video, there were only three brand new venues being constructed. Additionally, transportation and catering have always been an advantage of Paris.
"existing top-notch infrastructure" - existing infrastructure , yes, but not top-notch. Most stadiums and the Olympic Village living condition are pretty horrible.
Nah. The only country who complained about the food was the UK, which is honestly hilarious. The rooms are like the ones they had before, maybe even better. Also it's the olympic games that sold most tickets in history and the venues are the most beautiful ever done. Well done France, it's actually impressive giving how little they spent.
@@anatolepa1306 yes food was so good uk, usa, china, korea and such brought their own chefs. bed were slightly better than the atrocious rooms from tokyo olympics without aircon, many countries ended up bringing their own aircons. well done france
@ruffgook nice try, except the UK, all the other countries brought their chefs long before the Olympics even started, so before they even tried the food. It was done since they have a way different diet and special dietary requirements that others don’t. At least you tried
It's unrealistic to imagine one city hosting the games every 4 years, the "traveling circus" aspect of the Games is part of its charm, it's why it doesn't ever get boring.
Anyone else see the "olympic games over budget" chart at 4:05 show Beijing in 2008 was only 2% over budget, something the video never even highlights despite it being pretty relevant to the context of the video. Seems like an editorial oversight to me, and somewhat intentional since it kind of undercuts the premise of the video.
The last thing we should do is put the Olympics in just one city. What a tremendous loss the culture of the games to not have each host country get to show off its own unique culture and hospitality on the world's stage. Yes, it's expensive. There's a massive barrier to entry, but that can be solved by other means. Imagine if instead, the IOC took it upon itself to establish and maintain a trust from which the selected host city could draw to help with the inherent costs. Imagine if the world invested in the Olympics as a cultural institution which brings us together and promotes peace. The fund wouldn't necessarily to have fund everything. It would have to be the size of Harvard's endowment to do that, or more! But set it up so that a stipend is pulled every four years to help the selected host city. That way, it's not just the biggest, most established cities in the world who could contend, but cities all over the world who'd now have a little financial help with the up-front costs. Democratize it using private means of generating wealth. It works for a lot of American medical schools who are now using that model to fund their work. Why not use it here?
The problem with your idealistic vision is the fsct the international Olympic organization is just another for-profit sports industry run by people who enrich themselves personally by driving up costs as high as possible. This one has a brilliant marketibg gimmick. It is NOT some democratic international institution under the UN or global treaty. You want to funnel taxpayer money from around the world so a handful of people get richer.
I suggest a bid for host city can be conducted, but only once in 20-24 years (which would make the procedure grander) with the rest rotating on previous host cities. During this period, one city or it's country would have enough capability to bid for it. The reason I said this is because my country like India who are going on a steady economic rise might have the capability to host after 2 decades similar to Beijing's 2008 Olympics and we already showed interest for hosting.
at 4:07, how can Beijing show only 2% over budget cost when in the first chart at 0:40 the Final cost was $45B vs Initialbudget of $20B. That is just iteration of budgets towards the final cost saying that they were close to the target. I think interesting is to see that London intitail budget was $5B with a final cost of $18 and Rio's initial was $14B with filnal of $20B. Paris really shows that Olympic Games shall be in cities already prepared Infrastructure and with smart thinking of usage. Maybe just alternate Olympic games between these cities. London, Paris, Los Angeles, Sydney, Tokyo and Beijng
We should let Japan host one of time consider its not fair for them to invest so much but couldnt welcome all the tourists from around the world. Imagine how lit it will be with all the Anime crowd.
They in fact haven't pulled it off successfully, the Seine apparently is unsafe for the triathlon event with apparently 9 times the amount of E. coli that normal. Even if they somehow manage to hold the event its still a bad look.
@@jorgesalazar818 it's the reality mate. Have you seen how many issues they've had. They've had issues with the food catering where athletes are making their own food now, the bands are playing the wrong national anthems (south Sudan), the hosts are saying north korea instead of south korea, like this is by far the most unprofessional display I've heard of.
@@pariketthakkar2687 some errors are bounds to be made at special events. Nothing is ever perfect. The sporting events have been running really smooth so far and that’s the most important thing.
Not just the UK athletes but ALL the athletes are complaining because the food standards or food available is not to standard or adequate to supplement their STRICT dietary requirements i.e all being fed/offered vegan meals...not good when ur an active athlete in a MJAOR competition where u want to be at ur best so pass me that steak...
Serving raw meat, or they are substituting 'vegan' meat to the athletes. Some countries are bringing in their own food and chefs. Not to mention what athletes are calling cardboard beds, uncomfortable. Along with this environmental friendly, natural AC which was so touted before the games isn't working. Countries are thinking of importing portable AC units to keep their athletes from getting heat stroke.
There is a romantic element of having the Olympics in different cities. I hope that continues. Something no body mentions is the gluttony of sports at the Olympics, which requires cities to build more venues than in the past. Cut all the x-games stuff like rock-climbing, break dancing and skateboarding.
Often the x-games stuff is what drives the Olympics. The greco-roman wrestling venue will have plenty of open seats. Possibly evict the skill events like shooting, although they are cheap to hold and sponsor friendly.
Those x-games stuff you mention are cheap to build, it's not a money pit by anymean compared to massive stadium that are abandonned after the Olympics...
I don't understand. In one graph you show the example of Rio with an overrun from 14 to 20b, a few minutes later you present it as an overrun of 350% Which is correct? Or am I making percentage calculations wrong?
Especially infrastructure should only partly count into the budget. Adding metro lines, a bus terminal or improving the airport in a host city is clearly a long term benefit. On the other hand, Metro lines into the mountains (like Sochi) or giant stadiums without tennants afterwards would be not feasible without the olympics. Only the later should count into the budget. Look at London, they've created a whole new town district in Stratford around the stadium. For me, that is not an 'olympic' budget. And in Paris, they spent 1.4 billion € just to improve water quality on the river Seine. Although it largely didn't work out to keep the river clean for the olympics, it is still an urgently needed improvement for Paris
London had one of the best legacies, completely transforming whole suburbs if the city with venues that are still being used for both elite and community competitions
A permanent host would be amazing, i think. Also gives the athletes an idea of what type of environment they will be competing in and would be able to train for it.
I though that was the 84 LA Summer Olympics. Of the 30+ sports venues needed, only 2 were new, the rest were all just refreshed. All facilities were reused for other purposes after the Olympics.
London Olympics cost a whopping FOUR times the original budget. They had the world's biggest McDonald's, so much for sustainability. During he Olympics and right up until now, the masses were enduring austerity and decidng whether to 'heat or eat' so money could have been better spent on the needs of the people. London should never have hosted the games.
@@alexrenn2479 IMO, it's very hard to help the folks that don't really want to be helped. And why do I care about moneys spend on the World's largest McDonald? If they have reasonably high utilization of space they great, if not the store will go the way of the DoDo bird and be replaced with other businesses that might subdivide the space. IMO, London games could have saved significant money by reusing more sparts venues. But at least in a large city like London, they should be able to repurpose these new sport venues.
@@alexrenn2479 The games went over budet by 76%, it's shown in the video at 4:06. That being said they still broke even because all the venues were reused, the huge urban redevelopment projects and the boost in tourism. The quality of Britain's athletes has also grown significantly since the London Olympics, we've placed third, second and fourth in the olympic medal league tables in the Olympics since 2012, and a good part of that is the huge boost in spending for sporting infrastructure across the country.
I agree, the Olympics are a Greek tradition. Problem I see are the winter games. What ever city you decide on will be controversial. Nordic countries are now all in NATO. US & Russia have there own political issues. Only traditional winter sports country that could get approved is Switzerland. But Asian countries may have a problem with the Olympics only in Europe.
@@vwager honestly, I'd give the Winter Olympics to Asia. Winters in the Alps aren't as cold as they used to be. Many ski resorts had issues in recent years due to warm winters. Even Canada struggled last time they hosted the WO (Vancouver 2010). They had to import snow from other areas because it was too farm in Vancouver. Calgary has colder winters but their non-existent public transportation would be very unpopular these days.
@@vkdrk Probably because it doesn’t really snow in Vancouver and that’s why it’s one of the most expensive city in Canada. Calgary has public transportation. Not a ton but they have C trains and buses.
@@msch7620 I wasn't talking about the city, but those ski resorts outside of Vancouver (they used to get lots of snow). Oh, 2 train lines and a couple of buses in Calgary with the same population as, let's say, Prague. Public transportation in Calgary is terrible and useless for the most part. They can't even get a regular train service to Banff, even though the railway tracks are there.
Yeah, I think picking 3 cities to rotate through for the summer and winter games (total 6 cities) would be a good idea. Or perhaps 1 location from each continent with the continent's counties coming together to for the bill.
the fact that close to 10billion is concidered "cheap" just shows how messed up Olympia really is! im just glad my hometown Hamburg voted *NOlympia* back then! waste of money
Whenever a city builds new stadiums instead of renovating what they already have, they are doomed to go in debt for generations. The Parisians did what others couldnt, renovate. Simplicity at its finest.
Brisbane wants it's 2032 Olympics to be even cheaper. The athletics stadium will be downgraded to 40,000 capacity (currently with most of the stadium having no shelter at all, exposed to all kinds of weather, rain or sunshine). The smallest stadium since the early 20th century. The main stadium (to be upgraded Lang Park with 52,500) will host ceremonies, rugby sevens 🏉 and football. ⚽ That's the Queensland Labor government for you. Of course , they want the venues to be used well after the Olympics.
God, I hope LA does the same and doesn't go into debt for it. We already have most of the facilities needed from the last time, and may just need to fix them up a bit. And I sure as hell hope they use most of it to build public transportation and to NOT use it to build bigger freeways or more roads or more stadiums we don't need. Public transportation is basically the most important part, and all the revenue/income should be used to fix this god damn problem, and maybe to fix the homeless issue too.
nah. Also, no one is forcing non wealthy nations or undeveloped nations to flex with such spending and grand ideas. Russia did stupid sh* with Sochi games , total show off kind of nations with fairly poor average citizen. Its comparable to $3000 rims on a Chrysler
I think partly wealthy nations, but also partly host cities that already have most of the needed sports venues and supporting infrastructure, AND are willing to fight the IOC to reuse existing facilities. AND have the population and desire to reuse these facilities post Olympics.
Salt Lake City is one of the few winter Olympics host cities that actually makes sense to host such an event, so I'm glad that they were selected. Most of the other winter host cities are either only marginally cold or are so lightly populated that the very specific infrastructure goes unused outside of the Olympics.
In Australia we are hosting the 2032 Brisbane Olympics, and there is no infrastructure which is going to cost us 7.4billion, we cannot decide what to do for our stadium, and just last year we dropped out of hosting the 2026 Commonwealth Games. It'll be nice to have the Olympics back in Australia but it's just going to cost so much or we will end up pulling out completely.
@@Michael_from_EU_Germany do you understand the sheer logistics of moving 75000 soldiers to one of the biggest and busiest cities on earth ? Or do you think they all magically appear out of thin air?
Cardboard beds were in Tokyo as well, no AC is common in Europe and the climate in Paris right now isn't that hot. The food issue has already been fixed. Also, it's the Olympic that sold most tickets in history and it has the most beautiful venues ever.
The future of Olympic hosting should be a rotating group of host cities, namely L.A/ New York, London/ Paris, Melbourne/ Sydney and Beijing/ Tokyo. There is neither a need for a new city each time, nor a host to be a singular city. All of these options already have everything required and rotating the events between the two hosts for each incarnation allows for staggered upgrading of venues throughout the cycle.
Closing down college campuses for few weeks is probably cheapest way to go. College students can go home for a weeks and the city can be provide with food and hotel costs. Thing with a LA is that they would already have existing venues. SOFI stadium has swimming The Rose bowl for track and field and soccer. Basketball can be play lakers arena. Baseball and canoeing will take place in Oklahoma
@@Chaka_Davis I have lived in student residences. You normally don’t stay there in the summer. The only one who do are oversea students who came to study for cheap and go back to their country without ever paying taxes there or American students who come to learn French.
Great reportage, but as a Parisian I’d like to temper a few things. First, in these operating and venue costs, the budget does not take into account any ground work on the infrastructures that were created for the sole purpose of holding the Olympics logistic, what do I mean by that: For instance one of the big image of the Paris Olympics are some nautics and swimming events being held in the Seine, but the Seine, as any major river in the heart of a capital, is a dirty current, and it’s level of bacteria is far superior to what the OMS consider a safe percentage for swimming. Thus, the authorities have been engaged to huge investments in creating infrastructures to lower said bacteria volume, but it partially failed, it is cleaner, but still not it, and athletes have questioned the guarantees concerning their health and safety for those venues. The cost of all of that ? More than 1.5 billion, closer to 2, and not taken into account in the « Olympic budget » because they were hidden behind « public infrastructure work », but would not have been needed in the first place without this weird idea. And these are payed by taxpayer money. This is on of the multiple examples, the Olympics are also a justification for these expensive ground works, but the cost is not on the same page sadly. Secondly) the IOC now take more than 51% of the Olympic revenues while taking none of the risks, they have grown greedy through the years on that matter, hence the blatant fact of « no one wants to hold the Olympics anymore », because you take the money toll of the costs, and less revenue than you should. Third) The fact that the state wanted Paris (the city itself) to be the whole « playground » of it, made it impossibly difficult to secure large areas, particularly the Seine banks, therefore huge liberty blockouts have been enabled through the city, and that has a huge impact on the city normal summer revenues through tourism, a lot of restaurants, shops, and galleries are doing a blank season because of these measures, and this economic loss has not been taken into account. There is also plenty of other shady stuff, hidden payments as usual, conflict of interest, big corporations financing the Olympics not for charity obviously, students and homeless being litteraly pushed out of Paris for this supposedly « great popular party » that are the Olympics, and last but not least, a political climate on the verge of ignition, while everyone is getting poorer, and that the state said again and again « we are going libertarian, no more money in the bank », but we still hold the Olympics, while it will not benefit the popular economy. It is great indeed that people are happy internationally, but let me tell you, the vast majority of Parisians and French people are sending middle fingers to this event, and for good reasons.
the investments in cleaning up the river is not solely for olympics, it eventually had to be done anyway, since it's a goal to clean up the fresh water in european rivers in itself, and they want to make it swimmable also for parisians in the near future (to be seen how they will accomplish it). A filthy or toxic river is in no one interests, also not yours.
Hopefully, LA could do well hosting as we did in 1984. If I recall correctly, out of 30+ sparts venue needed, only 2 were new, the rest were all refreshed for the games. AND all were reused for other purposes post Olympics.
There's no point in having the Olympics if it's just going to be hosted by one city though. It would stop being a proper international tournament, and whoever the host was could run the games however they like without threat of reprisals if they cheated. If it came to it I'd rather they save costs by cutting back on the number of events or the number of spectators.
I'm watching this a few hours after the rail transformers where attacked hours before the opening ceremony. The transportation network as outlined here, has been attacked. Sad but it's our modern world 😢
Attack who totally failed to reach it's goal. The opening ceremony went perfectly well without any delay or security issues. Media love such attacks, it feeds their constant needs of breaking news, but the reality is always different.
I'd love to see a follow up of this- they have a better start than most countries. tourist season will continue after the olympics, and maybe some will stay to visit. it's tough initially on some small businesses.
It's not a generalized thing for the whole country. In Paris, we'd need it only two months per year... so it's not necessary to cool down every building and generate more pollution that we don't want
Europe have experienced many 100+F (38C) heat waves over the past decade. IMO, not having A/C for the Olympics Village during the Summer games is nuts.
@@plaisirdelanglais It's simple risks vs rewards proposition. Not having A/C, saving maybe $10 million, and take the ~5% risk of 100+F (38+C) heatwave embarrassing France. Also, while retrofitting A/C to existing building could be costly, especially if you want it to be esthetically pleasing and energy efficient, but including A/C during the design phase is far less expensive. Plus this risk for extreme heatwave are higher with this Olympic because the Solar Maximum for the current cycle is 2024/2025. You might have heard about record heatwaves at various places around the World this year.
Imagine being Tokyo in 2020 and COVID came and delayed the games by a year and still people couldn’t travel so you couldn’t make up those costs in revenue.
That Tokyo games could have wayyy be cheaper if they didn’t built new venues like the new national stadium and aquatic center but instead just renovate the already existing numerous venues in Tokyo. They were doomed from the start to begin with.
Tokyo Olympics was a $15 billion write-off for the city. Tokyo deserves to host again. COVID wasn't their fault.
The Tokyo economy is strong enough to withstand this tremor of loss.
@@7415_Gamer not true
I hope they get 2036 as a make-good.
I think it's a good idea to have ALL the previous host cities do the rotation for the Olympics that way all the permanent structures can be reused and the host cities already know what they're doing
Not necessarily. Politicians change, government workers change, employees change. I bet there are very few people who get to experience working on the Olympics several times in their lives.
There are 23 previous hosts for the summer games. Having all of the doing a rotation would mean that each city hosts the games roughly every 100 years. After this time all the knowledge is long forgotten and the infrastructure is long gone or had to be renovated several times.
@@KiHToGwe can exclude cities like Rio where their Olympic venues have fallen into disrepair. They clearly weren’t up for the challenge of hosting the Olympics.
@@KiHToG It's a good idea to rotate, but it doesn't have to include all 23 previous cities. Evaluations on previously used infrastructure should be done to determine if sports avenues can be cheaply renovated or reused.
@@bluejayryde29ウッ ドピュッ
I was in Paris for the games and everything was perfect, really. i don't think any city can do better
Me too! I’ve been to London 12, Rio 16 - nothing compared to Paris. It was amazing
@nathanhart19191 ya sure lmao
Can't agree more !
I am Parisian. Never been to past Olympics, but as Parisians, we b*tch A LOT about our city, more than anyone else in the world, believe me. We b*tched especially about how the Olympics disrupted the city. And yet I have to say, we have been *very* pleasantly surprised how well it went. So much better than anyone of us thought, so yes it was a success. I don't think any French now is complaining over how it went. The police was everywhere because we really really feared a terrorist attack, but the 45,000 volonteers did a fantastic job and noone got lost. There were almost no queues at the venues, everything went pretty smoothly.
@@InXLsisDeo tu as tout dit : on est passé du scepticisme à la communion. Une quinzaine de joie, n'en déplaise aux aigris!
Watching the Olympics, you can tell how they managed to save so much money. They didnt build a bunch of permanent stadiums and venues. They turned the city into the venue. All of the locations were either already in place or are well constructed temporary venues. Famous landmarks became arenas. Its amazing. France knows exactly what they're doing.
That's not a surprise and it's already successful but people only want to hammer that it's a "failure" because of the opening ceremonies which is a very invalid argument
@maplemiles3381 The opening ceremony is pretty much a massive success. Despite the rain and the lack of a rehearsal, the entire thing went off without any issues. Literally, the only bad thing about it was NBC's awful coverage of it.
@@Fools_Requiem Ha, ne vous en faites pas: ça ira!🙂
On the contrary, the opening woke ceremony was just the start of probably the worst games in history, cardboard beds, insufficient food, triathlon competitors who ended up ill because of e-coli, male boxers in female competitions and the IOC encouraging it. Nobody wants to watch the olympics anymore. Paris managed to ruin them. Good luck, Los Angeles. No doubt they are planning even more woke games, perhaps they'll make sure men invade all womens competitions
That's what I'm talking about!!! Use cities that already have current venues and just renovate them.
I work in a restaurant in paris and today we drop sales to 20% because there are no tourist as prices of hotels and accomodation skyrocketed high.
best of luck to ya lol
people will vote with their pockets fyi
Chef les jeux ont commencer aujourd'hui arrête de chialer. En mode les 2 semaines de jeu vont abattre le CA de ton resto MDRRR. Surtout que l'impacte touristiques des jeux sur une ville se fait sur l'année N+1 donc arrêtez de regarder le bout de votre nez bande d'aigri
@@davidr.4454oh encore un bobo parisien, fana d’Hidalgo de sorti
Maybe don’t charge 15 euros for a coke
Did the prices drop when they cut the VAT years ago? I can't remember it did. Not gonna cry on restaurants losing some margin
Paris is perfect for hosting the olympics because they already have what some host cities don’t all have:
1) EXISTING Infrastructure.
2) A well connected public transport system.
3) Tourism
4) Money
5) More than 100 years to study other hosts’ failures in hosting the olympics 😂
even with all those advantages, France cant manage a proper Olympics since many athletes are complaining about everything, heck even one prefered to sleep outside rather than their dorm
@@ernestogastelum9123 They complained about the Olympic village. An important part of the Olympic experience yes but not the hole thing. No complaints about the infrastructure of sporting events, organization of events, transportation.
@@maxk899 and they always complain about it, it was a similar story in china and tokyo.
@@ernestogastelum9123 Athletes complained about Olympic Village as they did in Rio, Tokyo, Beijing. So....Why-do-you-lie?
Well you know what , i prefer something that cost less ând is more intelligent in thé way things are done even though it causes a bit of inconvenience to people. WE re used to some much comfort. There are countries where thé conditions are way worse ând WE have much more comfort than a lot of humans in History. So stop complaining. You sound immature.
they all downgrade the cost at first to avoid angering the citizens, and then after the games you hear about the true cost
I remember they planned on having dedicated RER trains from CDG to originally be free for spectators before coming back and doubling the original price.
You might be right about the operating costs (as suggested in the video, they probably underestimated security costs).
However all the infrastructure was finished on time and accounted for properly. As said in the video, the only permanent facilities built specifically for the Games are the Olympic village (that will be fully inhabited by the end of the year), the new swimming pool in Saint-Denis (a densely populated suburb city that will use it year round), and a new multiusage sports complex near Porte de La Chapelle (that will immediately be used by locals too).
The big overspending in previous games were because of infrastructure costs, big projets that weren't necessarily finished on time, and not that useful long term. Paris avoided to undergo this kind of vanity project and that's why they kept the infrastructure cost low.
It should be noted that the infrastructure cost does not cover anything regarding transportation networks - the things that opened for the Olympics were in project even before the bid, and winning the bid just accelerated those projects a bit so some of the parts could be finished on time. There's a couple that couldn't be finished this year because Covid slowed construction down a bit, but line 15 will start opening next year, which is quite a bit sooner than the original plan (first segment was planned for 2030 before Paris won the Olympics bid).
@@ashurasama Hopefully, most future Olympics games will be hosted by countries / cities that don't attempt to spend 10's of billions (or more), turning it in into a vanity project, where much of the facilities built sit unused after the games.
I think you mean downplay
Yeah and the microchips in everyone who attended and the frequencies injected into eyes of viewers. Those are the true costs going forward for the olympic lizard agenda.
To hold the Olympics always in Paris? Oh YES, please! It can’t ever be greater than the recent games. They were so superb!
LA is gonna be a nightmare for transportation to events. Lol
I was around as a very, very young one. during the Los Angeles 84' Olympics. We did spectacularly well back then. And we'll do it again in 4 years. Not a scam in the L.A. Olympics, as all infrastructure is in place.
LA has actually been doing wonderful work in recent years upgrading it's transit. They've also invested in a bunch of new light rail lines. It's the sort of investment that's GOOD that the Olympics requires it, because it'll be useful for decades to come.
@@albear972 I suppose they’ll have to hide even more homeless than they did for the Superbowl.
I really don't know how LA can manage this.
They might have to divert the crowds into other cities.
No it won’t. People don’t care about the Olympics anymore.
I don't think metro saturation will be an issue Paris was absolutely empty of locals 3 days before the Olympics, everyone who could leave has left! The only people in Paris right now are tourists and people who have to work.
same as any summer in Paris then
and they work remote, from home. Companies have given orders. Parisian will spend a month working from their living room, so I agree, no metro saturation to fear
And it has been sought that many of those who work make a home office
Bruh, that Argentina soccer game was a farce. No surprise it happened in France, after that Champions League final debacle in Paris! I mean they pepper sprayed poor kids wearing Liverpool jerseys!! 😢 smh.
Don't forget the heroic homeless who managed to escape being exported to a concentration camp.
And LOOK AT IT NOW! Paris 2024 just ended and the results were…OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!! WOW
Flawless in every way, amazing venues, transportation was impeccable, EVERYTHING WAS INSANELY AMAZING!!!
Thank Paris for showing other ways to do the games, celebrate sports and performances, do things differently and epically! From outdoor ceremonies to cheap costs and safety…a master class to all future Olympic Games.
🫶🏻😘🥰 Merci Paris!!!
Paris olympics deserves more credit than they get. They pulled off the cheapest olympics ever WITHOUT any problems hosting the games. Sure there might be a little inconvenience for a few athletes but those are far and few in between. The point of the olympics are executing the games and Paris olympics has done so well. I'd rather give a little inconvenience to some athletes to lower the cost of olympics than having my nation go into debt crisis just to save face
Well, there _were_ problems. Mainly the food. It wasn’t sufficient enough for the athletes, and when you’re going to compete in physically demanding sports, that is much more than just “a little inconvenience.”
@@hwtvi3466 It's a problem that lasted 2 days while they increased the quantities. The lack of food was at the free cafeteria. In the village there was a supermarket where athletes could buy food and they could leave the village to eat in town too.
@@hwtvi3466 2 first days after it was OK
Paris reinvented the Olympics games (in the spirit of the Baron Coubertin) by bringing the games within the city and making the city a huge playground for the games. It was perfect: the organisation, security, competitions, shows,... we saw great athletes in great arenas and stadiums. Happy and joyfull people from all the world were gathered for the sport, and that was the essential and successful AIM of the games. Of course, there will be bitter or jealous people who will say that it was not good, for those there is nothing we can do, as for those who continue to believe that the earth is flat.
Paris was already spending a fortune improving its transportation infrastructure when they won the bid anyway. Reason: Paris is heavily investing in improving Paris Metro and RER regional rail and building out a tram system to reduce the city's over-dependence on automobiles (a problem that existed in the city even _before_ World War II!). That plus plentiful existing facilities meant the costs was low.
Always fun to hear a European speak of over-dependence on automobiles. LA would give you a stroke.
@@ctgottapee9020 The streets of Paris were _never_ designed to accommodate automobiles. No wonder overcrowding of the streets were a big problem for many decades.
Not only that, they also transform a lot of 4 lanes streets to 2 lanes and replace the previous lanes with bike lanes and trees. Many people working in Paris had to sell their cars because the traffic is impossible to navigate if commute every day by car to work.
A "fortune" is a very relative term here.
The budget for the Grand Paris Express project is large sure, with about 40 billions, but they get a LOT more for their money than pretty much any other developed English-speaking country.
They're building 200 kilometers of new metro lines, with 4 entirely new express lines, 3 extensions to 2 existing metro lines (these extensions are already open).
68 new metro stations on the new lines, and about 15 or 16 on the extensions.
Plus about 225 or 250 fancy new fully automated trains.
90% of this ginormous metro expansion is built deep underground, often in terrible soil conditions, with only about 10% that is elevated or at grade.
One of the new lines, M15, is a humongous fully deep underground loop line around the core city, that will become the world's longest underground metro line with 75 kilometers, and at the same time the longest continuous passenger carrying tunnel.
Plus, in a bit over the last decade and a half, they've developed their tramway network from 2 to 14 lines. Tramway lines that were pretty cheap to build despite having all the bells and whistles, like green tracks, and being built in some extremely dense areas.
(Some tramway or LRT lines in the US cost as much as a full fledged underground metro in Paris, even though the Parisian soil is a nightmare to dig through).
They've also recently expanded RER line E to the West (the RER is Paris' regional express heavy metro network that has 5 massive lines with branches).
The first phase of this Westward extension consists of a deep bored 8 kilometer tunnel under Paris' core and the modern business district of La Défense, and 3 huge new stations with great architecture.
Circular tramway line T3a was also recently extended by 7 stations to the West counterclockwise.
They're also in the middle of a huge rolling stock renewal campaign. They've ordered more than a thousand trains
In a few years, all metro lines will have new or fairly recent trains, at least 4 out of 5 RER lines will have new or recent trains.
Same for the Transilien suburban network that has already received 360 NAT trains and 145 Regio 2N trains, while the only tramway line equipped with old stock is currently receiving fancy new trams.
So the budgets of the GPE, other expansions and rolling stock renewals may be large, they get a ton for the investment they've made.
The same in the US would be in the several hundreds of billions of dollars.
So, I'd say they've done a great job managing costs and keeping them low.
@@KyrilPG Paris Grand Express is an amazing project because they are essentially building what amounts to a loop line around Paris, with a lot of deep underground tunnel boring. The project won't be completed until at least late 2029.
Anyway, given the extreme street overcrowding with automobiles and the air pollution that dates before World War II, no wonder they're spending a fortune on all these mass transit extensions. Just getting the cars off the streets allowed them to start building a bicycle lane network, which is going to be extensive by the early 2030's.
Paris is already a tourist hot spot, and they have tons of existing stadiums. So... not very surprising that they can handle it reasonably well.
Hopefully, the 2028 LA Summer Olympics will be even better. The 1984 Summer Olympics turned out awesome and the city actually made money hosting.
yes but look at London
Tourism and Olympics are not the same, and they don't co-exist very well either.
Athens and Tokyo are touristic hot spots too.
@@ctgottapee9020 While tourism and Olympics are often not the same, unless we're talking about the several hundred thousands tourists traveling to see the Olympics in cities such as London, Paris and hopefully LA.
Paris 2024 olympic games were the best ever in terms of organisation!
We can say whatever we want, these Olympics were a success
Joke of the day.
@@jimutjayadev There was a loss of interest for the Olympics before the Olympics and they managed to up the viewership by 81%. The sponsors are really happy so, yes, he’s right.
exactly
@@jimutjayadevdon’t talk about yourself all the time.
Overall the Paris Olympics were a great sucess, thanks to the unrelenting efforts of all the tireless workers from top to down, the cheerful welcome and the immense feel of fun and pleasure of the Games! Bravo!
i was driving trains during the olympics and it was almost like a vacation :p i mean people were smiling. they weren't blocking the doors... it was nice :)
What they are saying is not completely accurate. L.A. in 1984 actually made a decent profit on the Olympics. And by its success was able to encourage other city's to play host, as before that time just like today no one wanted to host because of the cost.
No city bid for 1984. LA only agreed under one condition: to use venues already built instead of building new ones. IOC agreed because there was no other city/option. This allowed LA to make a small profit (~$200 mil) BUT instead sticking to the LA model the IOC went back to demanding more from the host cities which inevitably led back to cost overruns. With little to no cost/risk to the IOC, what is the incentive to change.
@@primewave And they should do the same for 2028. LA already has all the facilities needed, and we do not need to waste land and money to build new ones. If anything, that money should be used to improve public transportation instead.
@@rebeltheharem7028That's basically what LA is doing. I hear practically nothing about new venues compared to the LA Metro expansion projects.
Incase you need help with the math, that was 40 years - 10 Olympics - ago
@@mangos2888They said every Olympics since the 1960s had went over budget L.A. 1984 made a profit so it wasn't so bad for them. Where does it mention 40 years?
BRAVOOOO a la France pour l'organisation des Jeux Olympique, un succès qui ne laissera pas de dette ou d'échec comme Rio de Janeiro par exemple.
I disagree with the one permanent host city idea but I think all new infrastructure built by a host city should be sustainable and used for something else after the Olympics
What if its on an island
Or there should be a default. Like if no one bids it lands in the default country
Easier said than done. Saying it should be sustainable or whatever doesn't do anything if no solutions are actually offered to make it so. A permanent host city IS sustainable. Propose an alternative or it might as well just stay the way it currently is, a financial blackhole for cities.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 what I mean by sustainable is that any new buildings built for the purposes of hosting Olympics will be able to be converted into something else after, for example how Paris is turning the Olympic Village they built into low income/student housing after the games are over. That is sustainable.
That was the plan for a long time, especially for Rio games. The olympics didn't even end before buildings were abandoned and started decaying. Only real maintenence that went on was draining of the pools to minimise sitting water for mosquitos.
London's Olympics was all about legacy. You can't put the cost of the new structures just as a cost of the Olympics as all the newly built venues are still in use some 12 years on.
The Olympic Park in London was built on an ex industrial waste land that had already been earmarked for regeneration.
One of the major overspend was the removal of toxic substances from the land, which would have needed to be spent to make the land usable.
Putting the cost purely down to 2012 Olympics is wrong as the planned transformation of the area has worked, turning a one waste land into a vibrant and still growing part of the city.
Exactly, it was regeneration of a new are, so many flats were built.
@edc1569 the regeneration using the foundations created for the Olympics is still happening. That why you can't look at the cost of the London Olympics as just those few weeks in 2012
Same goes for the Sydney Olympic Park
@ytlurker220 👍 Yes, the British went to Sydney to learn how to have a successful Olympics
I was living in London in 2005 and when I heard London won the Olympics for 2012 it I thought Oh god NO. I am sure many people in London at the time did not want the Olympics because of the problems the city was facing regarding old and creaking 100 year old transport infrastructure for a large population not mention millions of tourists. But fair play to the British Olympic Organisation Group they did a good job in 7 years to make 2012 Olympics beneficial to London rather than a burden. By using cleverly using existing infrastructure but building brand new sports stadiums. Like the wonderful Olympic Stadium which has NOT become a white elephant but has become the Wembley Stadium of East London since 2012 hosting American teams and sports and other events. Wembley Stadium itself got an upgrade as old stadium was demolished a lot of it due to the follow up and after London's 2005 bid. While London might have seemed like a mess in 2005 and the last city you wanted to host the Olympics in the 7 years to 2012. London infrastructure in many cases got upgraded and a new tube line and tube stations in East London. A new Cable Car and Monorail systems were launched over the Thames river in East London and were part of London's extensive and world famous and historic Tube network. All this was benefits flowing from 2012 Games. None of this would have happened in London's case if the Games did not go to it in 2012.So in London's case as I am sure it will be in Paris case the Olympic Games was actually a big boon for the city post 2012. The Games also managed to rebuild a once derelict forgotten part of London and made it now a nice part of London to move to. After the Docks closed in late 1970s and throughout the 1980s and then things started to improve for that part of London in the 1990s as the British Govt was looking to develop that part of London post Docks era. London Eye was built around 1993-95. Still derelict but improving leading to 2000 millennium celebrations by Tony Blair's Govt with building of Millennium Dome now O2 arena. However until 2005 things were moving slow in that area of London. This was not the case before 2005. So in London's case the 2012 Olympics was definitely benefited the city. However in 2005 when the bid was launched people wondered if it would end up like what happened to Rio 2016 or Athens 2004. But it didn't a lot of it because the British Olympic Bid was headed by talented people and even former Olympic Gold medalists like Sebastian Coe. Talented people who knew how to get things done and the Brits had a lot of such people working on the 2012 Olympic Games to make sure it did not go the way of what happens to Athens 2004 or Rio 2016.
This new way of organizing the Games inaugurated in Paris is very interesting, because until now only countries with solid financial resources could, without risk, organize such a ceremony. However, to specialize two or three sites to organize the games would be very frustrating for emerging countries.
We were in Paris three weeks ago! The Eiffel Tower with the Olympic logo was simply stunning!
How’s the pickpockets situation in paris?
@@alvinmah6148 now, that is something to be aware of
@@ps0405 Lucky 🍀 you. I pray to visit it one day
@@alvinmah6148she can’t reply her phone was stolen
@@alvinmah6148i went last week of June and didn’t see any weird pick pocketing. Just be mindful to not have your valuables laying around and do not flex or bring any unnecessary attention and you should be good. I stayed in clamart btw which I really liked. 30 min bus from Eiffel Tower
Looks like the 2028 LA Summer Olympics will take advantage of the plentiful existing sports venues within the county. Hopefully, we'll actually make money hosting the Olympics as we did in 1984. Plus we have the local population to take advantage of much of the infrastructure investments post Olympics.
The only issue might be the transportation network
@@Zizians We'll see if they'll encourage residents to vacation and put their home up for rent for the visitors during the Olympics, and to shift commercial trucking to nights like they did so successfully back in 1984.
I was a college student back then, and the traffic was actually much better during the 84 games than normal. Plus today, we have some OK metro rails serving most of the sports venues that didn't exist back in 84.
@@Zizians Just like with all these big events, the locals will leave the city prior to the event and tourists who would normally visit the city will stay away, so congestion will actually
be below normal.
LA 1984 Olympics is still THE example of "job well done" and profitable games.
@@finiantsl5573 they should be proud of that as I'm proud France kept the budgets low for this
Fun fact. The medals in this olympics are croissants.
Sounds lovely 😊.
@@kiddadd Based on their current reality it will be a Quran.
Fun Fact. The French Baguette 🥖🥖 Union was upset the French Crissant Union 🥐🥐was picked to make the French Olympic metals. 🇫🇷🇫🇷💙
Fun fact, and true this time : they're actually made from scraps of the Eiffel Tower (maintenance requires replacing some parts once in a while, and the city - owner of the building - decided to recycle the last batch of old parts to make the medals).
Lies lies lies it is 20 billions!!! (mayor's office data)
It certainly pulled off the "cheapest Olympics" look.
sweating on a cardboard "bed" with no AC 💀
@@tinvisions and a mostly vegan menu
come on, the ceremony looked cheap, but the rest ?
Also Green transport that is not fit for purpose late and one team was told 45minute journey - actually turned out to be 2 HOURS. They have relocated to a hotel near the venue.
@@ajudygarlandfan3019 Like stress of performing wasn't enough to think about.... I believe it was S Koreans who moved to a hotel. I suppose not everyone has a budget/intelligence to do so.
Great video. For the idea of having just a few hosts, we should not forget the national political costs of the Olympic Games. Even if it’s in fact a low budget for France, for example, people feel like it’s still a waste of money + all the disturbances for the cities where there are events. As mentioned, transportation is saturated, there are security zones that make even pedestrian traffic difficult, etc.
I can‘t imagine what Tokyo went through in 2020-2021.😢😢😢😢 7:31
Massive build out of hydrogen transport infrasructure.
30 million inhabitants, whatever they build can be used by their own people, you never have millions of tourists simultaneously anyway.
@@fujin09 If those 30 million inhabitants needed those facilities, they would had already made them. They didn't. So it was excessive and budget better used elsewhere.
I'm amazed. As a French person, I hear daily that the Olympics will be a disaster, whereas other countries actually take inspiration from it. Blaming. So French... I guess.
I don't agree. I'm in the US and am looking forward to the Paris Olympics. I bet they will be very well done. France can also do winter Olympics.
French people actually document themselves a bit better than this video. The budget was 3.2 billion initially (you can check online yourself), in the video it says the 9.8 annonced is going to be respected... true if you update the planned budget every week, you end up meeting it, but it remains 3 times the cost allocated initially and taken into account for the cost-benefit analysis. All homeless people and students in Paris were forced out of the city. And the organisers are completely out of touch with reality : they planned the triathlon to be swam in the Seine with no backup, so because the Seine is too dirty to be swam in (which everyone except 1 or 2 politicians had anticipated) the current plan is to remove the swimming part of the triathlon ... I mean this is shameful.
Sure I am French, I love my country and I hope it works out but I fear this is going to be a complete mess of an Olympics game and French economy is going to take a serious hit. (Mais en vrai on croise les doigts)
@@fourniervictor9354ne soyons pas défaitistes, croisons les doigts car ça promet d'être un événement tout simplement incroyable, comme on n'en a jamais vécu à Paris.
Concernant les nageurs, Philippe Lucas a largement raison : ils auront au pire 2 boutons sur le c*l mais ils pourront nager. La Seine est propre comparée aux eaux libres dans lesquelles ils vont habituellement nager pour les compétitions.
Avant les JO de Barcelone, la plage là bas n'existait pas en ville et était impraticable et bien trop sale pour s'y baigner. Quelle image a-t-on des plages de Barcelone aujourd'hui ? Imbaignables ?
@@TheBandit7613It’s already planned. The Winter Olympics will be in the French alps in 2030. They announced it 2 days ago.
@@msch7620 It's not closed. Final decision suspended to the votation of the financial budget, which only can happen next year.
What did you expect? This is what happens when you utilize existing infrastructure instead of building brand new facilities that will only get used for a couple weeks and then that's it. It just gets abandoned afterwards. I'm looking at you Rio.
France is always ahead of the world. Overspending for the events should not be the norm.
Very good organization. Bravo la France
4:04 How is the 2008 Beijing Olympics only 2% over budget when earlier in the video, you showed another chart that showed Beijing had spent $45 billion on a $20 billion budget? That's 125% over budget, not 2%.
Yeah i noticed that too...
This chart is based on real term in local currency🤓.The earlier chart is converted to USD
@@dongiovanni8899 Ratios should still be the same, except for the variance from (real) inflation rates.
@@chrischaseling4421 The exchange rates are different at the time of the budget and the itemised real spending. In 2008 Global Financial Crisis affected USA badly, USD depreciated much against Chinese Yuan🤓
@@dongiovanni8899what? The ratio has nothing to do with the exchange rates. You're not comparing two currencies like spent $45billion USD but budget is $20billion Yuan.
Some medias went to Paris to only show 2 or 3 bad news daily out of 100 good events happening daily. Sad and petty. Despite many issues, Covid 19, Yellow vests, political issues, french are pulling out a great Olympics event. Can't wait for the opening ceremony tomorrow with over 300 000 people. Great and Good luck for all participants....
as if French 24 doesn't do the same when reporting about other countries!
the paris olympics is a fiasco on multiple levels: paris looks like a prison with all the locked fencing to protect against terrorits. it is neither pretty or tourist friendly. the olympic committee did not include air conditioning in the olympic village so each country brought thousands of individual air conditioners...how is that carbon footprint going to look. rather than spending 1.5 billion euros to improve the lives of parisians and the french, it was spent to clean up the seine. the swimming competitions could have been held in pre-existing swim stadiums. 1.5 billion euros wasted to serve the ego of mayor hidalgoand president macaroni. free public transport was proposed in the initial olympic plan. during the olympics public transport is not free but triple the normal price. this olympics in paris is a complete failure and a joke and horrible treatment of the local residents.
@@janejustin1788the person said, “some medias” they didn’t say anything about which country they were from, they could very well have been French.
@@fromhigherground4272 Tell em.
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This Paris Olympic Games is becoming a huge success. That’s why I like to stay focused on 2024 instead of looking forward to 2028. LA should of never ever been awarded another Olympic Games but they are. LA is getting worse with homeless population and it’s getting out of control. Paris has lots of rich history and alot better than California and LA
they pulled it off by appliying most of infrastructure budget on state budget and not on olympics budget. For example: La seine swimming project on Paris and la seine comiteee budget. And they outsourced multiple sports infrastucture of other cities of France like Lyon, Lille, Marseille, Tahiti etc...
Tahiti infrastructure: sea waves :)
you really dive deep into topics, and i appreciate the depth!
having the River mostly clean instead of completely clean definitely cut down on costs... these are smart decisions future cities should learn from...
Too early to declare it to be the cheapest without even seeing the event happen!
No its not this article is reviewing the cost of putting the games on. Not the money lost in the end
0:36 Now I know why Greece is in so much debt still today😂😂😂
Don’t forget about all the money saved using those cardboard beds 😂
They could have saved literally a billion dollars by not trying to temporarily make the river swimmable.
@@MangoMotors I agree but the money used on that project will benifit them even after the Olympics.
These beds have been used for several Olympics and are very solid
@@antoinelacoste930 I believe it only started last Tokyo Olympics(2021).
@partzrivalcamaya845 I agree. The river cleaning would be a great benefit to the people and the economy... if it was actually a thing.
This will likely be a temporary measure. Not only is the river not actual clean currently after all the money that was spent, France is running out of money (like most countries), and the Olympics is turning out to be a financial disaster. So it is a very likely outcome that they will bail on the plans instead of continuing to clean up the river and improving infrastructure to keep it clean.
The obvious reason underpinning the underwhelmingly low costs of hosting the Paris Olympics is the existing top-notch infrastructure. As mentioned in the video, there were only three brand new venues being constructed. Additionally, transportation and catering have always been an advantage of Paris.
"existing top-notch infrastructure" - existing infrastructure , yes, but not top-notch. Most stadiums and the Olympic Village living condition are pretty horrible.
@@hl954 nah
@@account-kc1gz Yeah
@@hl954 ew
@@account-kc1gz that was what I said when I saw French Stadiums
trash food, no aircon, trash rooms for athletes to cut costs. well done.
Nah. The only country who complained about the food was the UK, which is honestly hilarious. The rooms are like the ones they had before, maybe even better. Also it's the olympic games that sold most tickets in history and the venues are the most beautiful ever done. Well done France, it's actually impressive giving how little they spent.
@@anatolepa1306 yes food was so good uk, usa, china, korea and such brought their own chefs. bed were slightly better than the atrocious rooms from tokyo olympics without aircon, many countries ended up bringing their own aircons. well done france
@ruffgook nice try, except the UK, all the other countries brought their chefs long before the Olympics even started, so before they even tried the food. It was done since they have a way different diet and special dietary requirements that others don’t. At least you tried
@@anatolepa1306 nice try? Those are facts.
@ruffgook apparently you didn’t understand the comment and how you got it wrong. Read it again, but slower.
It's unrealistic to imagine one city hosting the games every 4 years, the "traveling circus" aspect of the Games is part of its charm, it's why it doesn't ever get boring.
Anyone else see the "olympic games over budget" chart at 4:05 show Beijing in 2008 was only 2% over budget, something the video never even highlights despite it being pretty relevant to the context of the video. Seems like an editorial oversight to me, and somewhat intentional since it kind of undercuts the premise of the video.
Do you trust Chinese numbers they lie about everything from gdp to debt to population
In the chart earlier their costs where double than what they thought it would be. So I think it’s just an editing mistake.
They also completely ignored the 2002 Salt Lake City games...
@@paiesiiver Its just the Summer Games
Exactly this is a way to glorify a disastrous Olympics and hide their failures by saying its all by design
It helps that no one really wanted to host and those who did would only offer, at most, some updated venues and infrastructure.
That photo of Bolt at 00:17 is something else. That’s just cold…😂
it was simply the greatest games ever !
The last thing we should do is put the Olympics in just one city. What a tremendous loss the culture of the games to not have each host country get to show off its own unique culture and hospitality on the world's stage. Yes, it's expensive. There's a massive barrier to entry, but that can be solved by other means. Imagine if instead, the IOC took it upon itself to establish and maintain a trust from which the selected host city could draw to help with the inherent costs. Imagine if the world invested in the Olympics as a cultural institution which brings us together and promotes peace. The fund wouldn't necessarily to have fund everything. It would have to be the size of Harvard's endowment to do that, or more! But set it up so that a stipend is pulled every four years to help the selected host city. That way, it's not just the biggest, most established cities in the world who could contend, but cities all over the world who'd now have a little financial help with the up-front costs. Democratize it using private means of generating wealth. It works for a lot of American medical schools who are now using that model to fund their work. Why not use it here?
The problem with your idealistic vision is the fsct the international Olympic organization is just another for-profit sports industry run by people who enrich themselves personally by driving up costs as high as possible. This one has a brilliant marketibg gimmick.
It is NOT some democratic international institution under the UN or global treaty. You want to funnel taxpayer money from around the world so a handful of people get richer.
I suggest a bid for host city can be conducted, but only once in 20-24 years (which would make the procedure grander) with the rest rotating on previous host cities. During this period, one city or it's country would have enough capability to bid for it.
The reason I said this is because my country like India who are going on a steady economic rise might have the capability to host after 2 decades similar to Beijing's 2008 Olympics and we already showed interest for hosting.
They should adopt multi Hosting System. Multiple countries should host this big event. Not just one.
or more simply multiple cities in a country or with close neighbouring countries (like a Benelux edition)
The opening ceremony was actually good, better than expected, i watched the whole 4hr session
at 4:07, how can Beijing show only 2% over budget cost when in the first chart at 0:40 the Final cost was $45B vs Initialbudget of $20B. That is just iteration of budgets towards the final cost saying that they were close to the target. I think interesting is to see that London intitail budget was $5B with a final cost of $18 and Rio's initial was $14B with filnal of $20B. Paris really shows that Olympic Games shall be in cities already prepared Infrastructure and with smart thinking of usage. Maybe just alternate Olympic games between these cities. London, Paris, Los Angeles, Sydney, Tokyo and Beijng
We should let Japan host one of time consider its not fair for them to invest so much but couldnt welcome all the tourists from around the world. Imagine how lit it will be with all the Anime crowd.
Maybe the next call for the Olympics for a “redo”
as someone from Brisbane, they can have our 2032 slot 🤷♀️
now I'm imagining the Olympics meets anime convention, it would be crazy
Its not fair? They didn't even bid for one. Why give it to them?
Japan even took back their bid for Sapporo Winter 2030.
Now I’m worried about Los Angeles 2028. How much over budget or under budget will it be?
They in fact haven't pulled it off successfully, the Seine apparently is unsafe for the triathlon event with apparently 9 times the amount of E. coli that normal. Even if they somehow manage to hold the event its still a bad look.
Apparently they had it more or less sorted out, but the heavy rains of the past days made it significantly worse...
The have pulled it off and it's a already a success
Lmao. It's honestly hilarious and sad how many haters are on here. It's almost like they don't want things to work out. So much negativity.
@@jorgesalazar818 it's the reality mate. Have you seen how many issues they've had. They've had issues with the food catering where athletes are making their own food now, the bands are playing the wrong national anthems (south Sudan), the hosts are saying north korea instead of south korea, like this is by far the most unprofessional display I've heard of.
@@pariketthakkar2687 some errors are bounds to be made at special events. Nothing is ever perfect. The sporting events have been running really smooth so far and that’s the most important thing.
Considering the budget only doubled from 2017 estimates, with how rampant inflation has been in the years since then, that is amazing.
Great video! Thanks a lot for the analysis!
According to UK media , hungry British athletes are complaining about raw meat being provided as food and not much else. Thats gotta be a huge saving.
The fyre festival special 😂
if the Brits complain about food you know that something is wrong...
Not just the UK athletes but ALL the athletes are complaining because the food standards or food available is not to standard or adequate to supplement their STRICT dietary requirements i.e all being fed/offered vegan meals...not good when ur an active athlete in a MJAOR competition where u want to be at ur best so pass me that steak...
Serving raw meat, or they are substituting 'vegan' meat to the athletes. Some countries are bringing in their own food and chefs.
Not to mention what athletes are calling cardboard beds, uncomfortable.
Along with this environmental friendly, natural AC which was so touted before the games isn't working. Countries are thinking of importing portable AC units to keep their athletes from getting heat stroke.
Proof that the brits know nothing about food - steak tartare and beef carpaccio 😋are absolutely delicious French and Italian dishes that use raw meat.
There is a romantic element of having the Olympics in different cities. I hope that continues. Something no body mentions is the gluttony of sports at the Olympics, which requires cities to build more venues than in the past. Cut all the x-games stuff like rock-climbing, break dancing and skateboarding.
Often the x-games stuff is what drives the Olympics. The greco-roman wrestling venue will have plenty of open seats.
Possibly evict the skill events like shooting, although they are cheap to hold and sponsor friendly.
I'm going to be specifically looking for the breakers(breakdancing competition event)
Probably host the events as a country instead. LA hosts the taekwondo, SF hosts beach volleyball, and Dallas hosts the shooting
Those x-games stuff you mention are cheap to build, it's not a money pit by anymean compared to massive stadium that are abandonned after the Olympics...
I don't understand. In one graph you show the example of Rio with an overrun from 14 to 20b, a few minutes later you present it as an overrun of 350%
Which is correct? Or am I making percentage calculations wrong?
Especially infrastructure should only partly count into the budget.
Adding metro lines, a bus terminal or improving the airport in a host city is clearly a long term benefit. On the other hand, Metro lines into the mountains (like Sochi) or giant stadiums without tennants afterwards would be not feasible without the olympics. Only the later should count into the budget.
Look at London, they've created a whole new town district in Stratford around the stadium. For me, that is not an 'olympic' budget.
And in Paris, they spent 1.4 billion € just to improve water quality on the river Seine. Although it largely didn't work out to keep the river clean for the olympics, it is still an urgently needed improvement for Paris
i like how paris had the show outside than a stadium i think everybody showed do this
2:02 - Original Budget $6.97b
2:08 - revised 2024 budget - $9.7b
5:10 - over budget $1.8b??
might need to revised that? missing almost billion?
I'm guessing you need to add inflation to estimate the over budget. At least it would make sense.
Brisbane: *hold my beer*
London had one of the best legacies, completely transforming whole suburbs if the city with venues that are still being used for both elite and community competitions
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@@account-kc1gz yes
A permanent host would be amazing, i think. Also gives the athletes an idea of what type of environment they will be competing in and would be able to train for it.
What a fabulous idea. The whole world would unite under this genius plan and follow along like blindfolded sheep.
I think this one is diverse. I like having my country included and hosted at. (Not France)
In 2012, London paved the way for sustainable architecture.
They set the best example of how these facilities should be utilized!
I though that was the 84 LA Summer Olympics.
Of the 30+ sports venues needed, only 2 were new, the rest were all just refreshed. All facilities were reused for other purposes after the Olympics.
London Olympics cost a whopping FOUR times the original budget. They had the world's biggest McDonald's, so much for sustainability. During he Olympics and right up until now, the masses were enduring austerity and decidng whether to 'heat or eat' so money could have been better spent on the needs of the people. London should never have hosted the games.
@@alexrenn2479 IMO, it's very hard to help the folks that don't really want to be helped.
And why do I care about moneys spend on the World's largest McDonald? If they have reasonably high utilization of space they great, if not the store will go the way of the DoDo bird and be replaced with other businesses that might subdivide the space.
IMO, London games could have saved significant money by reusing more sparts venues. But at least in a large city like London, they should be able to repurpose these new sport venues.
@@alexrenn2479 The London one was my favourite
@@alexrenn2479
The games went over budet by 76%, it's shown in the video at 4:06. That being said they still broke even because all the venues were reused, the huge urban redevelopment projects and the boost in tourism. The quality of Britain's athletes has also grown significantly since the London Olympics, we've placed third, second and fourth in the olympic medal league tables in the Olympics since 2012, and a good part of that is the huge boost in spending for sporting infrastructure across the country.
Why not use Greece as a permanent host of the JO, with all the participating countries financing the maintenance of the venues ?
I agree, the Olympics are a Greek tradition. Problem I see are the winter games. What ever city you decide on will be controversial. Nordic countries are now all in NATO. US & Russia have there own political issues. Only traditional winter sports country that could get approved is Switzerland. But Asian countries may have a problem with the Olympics only in Europe.
Great idea!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
@@vwager honestly, I'd give the Winter Olympics to Asia. Winters in the Alps aren't as cold as they used to be. Many ski resorts had issues in recent years due to warm winters. Even Canada struggled last time they hosted the WO (Vancouver 2010). They had to import snow from other areas because it was too farm in Vancouver. Calgary has colder winters but their non-existent public transportation would be very unpopular these days.
@@vkdrk Probably because it doesn’t really snow in Vancouver and that’s why it’s one of the most expensive city in Canada. Calgary has public transportation. Not a ton but they have C trains and buses.
@@msch7620 I wasn't talking about the city, but those ski resorts outside of Vancouver (they used to get lots of snow).
Oh, 2 train lines and a couple of buses in Calgary with the same population as, let's say, Prague. Public transportation in Calgary is terrible and useless for the most part. They can't even get a regular train service to Banff, even though the railway tracks are there.
What if we just decide to go to Olympia every 4 years for the Olympic Games and we all worship Zeus for a month.
The purpose of the ever new cities is to provide the corrupt officials of the IOC with more and more corruption money.
Yeah, I think picking 3 cities to rotate through for the summer and winter games (total 6 cities) would be a good idea. Or perhaps 1 location from each continent with the continent's counties coming together to for the bill.
the fact that close to 10billion is concidered "cheap" just shows how messed up Olympia really is!
im just glad my hometown Hamburg voted *NOlympia* back then! waste of money
Leipzig, having only 700k population, bid for Olympia😁
Olympics in present Germany? with you (in)ability to complete construction projects you would have start 40 years in advance...
@@rncmv why u such a Jingoist? didnt your parents teach you better?
@@rncmv why are you such a jingoist?
Whenever a city builds new stadiums instead of renovating what they already have, they are doomed to go in debt for generations. The Parisians did what others couldnt, renovate. Simplicity at its finest.
Brisbane wants it's 2032 Olympics to be even cheaper. The athletics stadium will be downgraded to 40,000 capacity (currently with most of the stadium having no shelter at all, exposed to all kinds of weather, rain or sunshine). The smallest stadium since the early 20th century. The main stadium (to be upgraded Lang Park with 52,500) will host ceremonies, rugby sevens 🏉 and football. ⚽ That's the Queensland Labor government for you. Of course , they want the venues to be used well after the Olympics.
They'll try and force concerts there even though those spaces have the worst acoustics.
God, I hope LA does the same and doesn't go into debt for it. We already have most of the facilities needed from the last time, and may just need to fix them up a bit.
And I sure as hell hope they use most of it to build public transportation and to NOT use it to build bigger freeways or more roads or more stadiums we don't need.
Public transportation is basically the most important part, and all the revenue/income should be used to fix this god damn problem, and maybe to fix the homeless issue too.
Hopefully they don't end up spending public transport money on Elon's silly Tesla tunnels lol.
Bravo, Paris! ♥♥♥
The are still using some venues from the 1924 Paris Olympics.
The secret, wealthy nations do better at hosting, what a surprise!
Not as simple as that.
nah. Also, no one is forcing non wealthy nations or undeveloped nations to flex with such spending and grand ideas. Russia did stupid sh* with Sochi games , total show off kind of nations with fairly poor average citizen. Its comparable to $3000 rims on a Chrysler
@@notaspectator yeah, don't bid if you can't afford the cost, that's their own problem
I think partly wealthy nations, but also partly host cities that already have most of the needed sports venues and supporting infrastructure, AND are willing to fight the IOC to reuse existing facilities. AND have the population and desire to reuse these facilities post Olympics.
Becaue the westtern media doesnt talk chit about their own white, but when it came to other culture they love to poke their nose 😅😅😅😅😅
Salt Lake City is only costing us right now, $4 billion. Luckily we've kept and updated our Olympic Venues
Salt Lake City is one of the few winter Olympics host cities that actually makes sense to host such an event, so I'm glad that they were selected.
Most of the other winter host cities are either only marginally cold or are so lightly populated that the very specific infrastructure goes unused outside of the Olympics.
@TheVonMatrices isn't salt lake city like very hot?
@@fnansjy456 Salt Lake City is close to the mountains with many ski resorts and lots of snow in winter.
@@vkdrk I see I was confused as Utah has a lot of desert so from far out it seems odd
Japan to host Olympics again 🎌
In Australia we are hosting the 2032 Brisbane Olympics, and there is no infrastructure which is going to cost us 7.4billion, we cannot decide what to do for our stadium, and just last year we dropped out of hosting the 2026 Commonwealth Games. It'll be nice to have the Olympics back in Australia but it's just going to cost so much or we will end up pulling out completely.
Cardboard beds, no ACs, cut corners everywhere.. It's very Parisian is more ways than one...
also food for the athlete village
Cardboard beds were used in Tokyo 2021. So Tokyo is Parisian?
"How Paris pulled off one of the cheapest Olympics" just ignore the 75000 soldiers deployed in Paris. The Tax pay will fund it
there are hardly any costs, as they receive the normal monthly salary anyway.
@@Michael_from_EU_Germany do you understand the sheer logistics of moving 75000 soldiers to one of the biggest and busiest cities on earth ? Or do you think they all magically appear out of thin air?
@@dbz9393👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@dbz9393 You think that our soldiers stays at home without pay when there is no events to protect?
@@Ruka-f7k you're a mong
This did not age well
The Eiffel tower, all thanks to Haiti
No AC, cardboard bed, and vegan foods with not enough meats for athletes…..safe to say this will go down as the worst Olympic in the history
Cardboard beds were in Tokyo as well, no AC is common in Europe and the climate in Paris right now isn't that hot. The food issue has already been fixed. Also, it's the Olympic that sold most tickets in history and it has the most beautiful venues ever.
@XLE-t8b your comment is already aging like milk
@@maplemiles3381 exactly 😂😂
So this is why the Paris Olympics has turned into the Willy Wonka Experience ?
thats an insult to willy wonka the genius chocolate maker
Most beautiful Olympics ever due to how beautiful the architecture and locations are
By making competitors swim in the drain. 🤣
After the rainy day the bacteria on the senna river was so high that they told people to not swim there 😂😂😂
They did spend a lot in cleaning that river and it's still a drain
@@therealgrimreaper68 1.5 bilion euro 😂😂😂😂🤧🤧🤣🤣
Man shame on France. They’ve gone full third world complete with Antifa !
@@SnowiiAj worth every penny
That 18 billion London spent was well worth every penny. Too this day, one of the best!
The future of Olympic hosting should be a rotating group of host cities, namely L.A/ New York, London/ Paris, Melbourne/ Sydney and Beijing/ Tokyo. There is neither a need for a new city each time, nor a host to be a singular city. All of these options already have everything required and rotating the events between the two hosts for each incarnation allows for staggered upgrading of venues throughout the cycle.
@@MattyHuss I’d remove NY because it would be chaos. I’d put Salt Lake City or Atlanta cause they did it well. I’d add Athens and Rome.
Kicking out students and homeless people from their shelters to house Olympians is hardly something to celebrate
Closing down college campuses for few weeks is probably cheapest way to go. College students can go home for a weeks and the city can be provide with food and hotel costs. Thing with a LA is that they would already have existing venues. SOFI stadium has swimming The Rose bowl for track and field and soccer. Basketball can be play lakers arena. Baseball and canoeing will take place in Oklahoma
Would you have rather them spend billons of dollars on new venues or just used what they already have built
@@Chaka_Davis I have lived in student residences. You normally don’t stay there in the summer. The only one who do are oversea students who came to study for cheap and go back to their country without ever paying taxes there or American students who come to learn French.
Great reportage, but as a Parisian I’d like to temper a few things.
First, in these operating and venue costs, the budget does not take into account any ground work on the infrastructures that were created for the sole purpose of holding the Olympics logistic, what do I mean by that:
For instance one of the big image of the Paris Olympics are some nautics and swimming events being held in the Seine, but the Seine, as any major river in the heart of a capital, is a dirty current, and it’s level of bacteria is far superior to what the OMS consider a safe percentage for swimming.
Thus, the authorities have been engaged to huge investments in creating infrastructures to lower said bacteria volume, but it partially failed, it is cleaner, but still not it, and athletes have questioned the guarantees concerning their health and safety for those venues. The cost of all of that ? More than 1.5 billion, closer to 2, and not taken into account in the « Olympic budget » because they were hidden behind « public infrastructure work », but would not have been needed in the first place without this weird idea. And these are payed by taxpayer money. This is on of the multiple examples, the Olympics are also a justification for these expensive ground works, but the cost is not on the same page sadly.
Secondly) the IOC now take more than 51% of the Olympic revenues while taking none of the risks, they have grown greedy through the years on that matter, hence the blatant fact of « no one wants to hold the Olympics anymore », because you take the money toll of the costs, and less revenue than you should.
Third) The fact that the state wanted Paris (the city itself) to be the whole « playground » of it, made it impossibly difficult to secure large areas, particularly the Seine banks, therefore huge liberty blockouts have been enabled through the city, and that has a huge impact on the city normal summer revenues through tourism, a lot of restaurants, shops, and galleries are doing a blank season because of these measures, and this economic loss has not been taken into account.
There is also plenty of other shady stuff, hidden payments as usual, conflict of interest, big corporations financing the Olympics not for charity obviously, students and homeless being litteraly pushed out of Paris for this supposedly « great popular party » that are the Olympics, and last but not least, a political climate on the verge of ignition, while everyone is getting poorer, and that the state said again and again « we are going libertarian, no more money in the bank », but we still hold the Olympics, while it will not benefit the popular economy.
It is great indeed that people are happy internationally, but let me tell you, the vast majority of Parisians and French people are sending middle fingers to this event, and for good reasons.
Just be grateful for a change thanks!
the investments in cleaning up the river is not solely for olympics, it eventually had to be done anyway, since it's a goal to clean up the fresh water in european rivers in itself, and they want to make it swimmable also for parisians in the near future (to be seen how they will accomplish it). A filthy or toxic river is in no one interests, also not yours.
énormément de bénévoles également qui peuvent travailler jusqu'à 70h/semaine, çà en fait des économies!
The proposed solution at the end is the answer. We can’t keep bankrupting cities just to host a sporting event.
Hopefully, LA could do well hosting as we did in 1984. If I recall correctly, out of 30+ sparts venue needed, only 2 were new, the rest were all refreshed for the games. AND all were reused for other purposes post Olympics.
There's no point in having the Olympics if it's just going to be hosted by one city though. It would stop being a proper international tournament, and whoever the host was could run the games however they like without threat of reprisals if they cheated. If it came to it I'd rather they save costs by cutting back on the number of events or the number of spectators.
I'm watching this a few hours after the rail transformers where attacked hours before the opening ceremony. The transportation network as outlined here, has been attacked. Sad but it's our modern world 😢
Attack who totally failed to reach it's goal. The opening ceremony went perfectly well without any delay or security issues. Media love such attacks, it feeds their constant needs of breaking news, but the reality is always different.
Why wasn't this a discussion before? Make the city host both the Summer/Winter consecutively.
I'd love to see a follow up of this- they have a better start than most countries. tourist season will continue after the olympics, and maybe some will stay to visit. it's tough initially on some small businesses.
Oh this one is going to age really well....
How? No air-con provided.
It's not a generalized thing for the whole country. In Paris, we'd need it only two months per year... so it's not necessary to cool down every building and generate more pollution that we don't want
And cardboard beds etc.
No A/C for athletes is wild
The French don't believe in air conditioning. Meanwhile over 16 000 people died in 2003 in France on a 5 day heatwave.
Go figure!
Europe have experienced many 100+F (38C) heat waves over the past decade.
IMO, not having A/C for the Olympics Village during the Summer games is nuts.
@@stanimal8 French exceptionalism! Shameful
We don't use AC on frequent basis here in Europe. It is a very temporary thing to have high temperatures.
@@plaisirdelanglais It's simple risks vs rewards proposition. Not having A/C, saving maybe $10 million, and take the ~5% risk of 100+F (38+C) heatwave embarrassing France.
Also, while retrofitting A/C to existing building could be costly, especially if you want it to be esthetically pleasing and energy efficient, but including A/C during the design phase is far less expensive.
Plus this risk for extreme heatwave are higher with this Olympic because the Solar Maximum for the current cycle is 2024/2025. You might have heard about record heatwaves at various places around the World this year.