Great tutorial. I did this yesterday... starting with the easiser side. I would say iook me around 5 hours all in, but not in one straight hit !! I used fountain pen ink to see the high sp[ots... because that is what i had to hand. and its super eay to clean off. id already finished the outser side with fiddes hard wax oil... so no issue with getting ink into the wood.... (ie be careful if you use ink !!) I didi't have any issue. But then I've been making furniture for years and have all the tools i needed. I did it almost entrirely by hand as it goes. chisels and knives (SHARP) slowly and carfully. As Waxmax says. Don't rush it. its not possible to get it 100% perfect as the grips are not 100% identical to shape of teh black plasting ones.... but you can get it 99.5% which is wayyyyy beter than the plasttic. The wood is hard, but prones ot schips and slinters so super shard tools are to my mind the most important part of this. I saved a lot of time by watching this video. Cheers fella ! yuo inspired me to give it a go and i'm super happy with the end result.
Hi, thank you for your comment. Really pleased to hear that you tried and succeeded in doing the same thing. Would be great to see some photos if you’re able to upload them to TH-cam.
Thanks, I've been researching this BB gun recently. I do have to say that the grips do look a lot more nicer on the gun but the plastic ones seem to have a better fit.
Like you, but over two years ago, after extensive online searches I found no actual photo examples of real Luger grips having been modified to fit the Umarex P08 or similar air gun. I figured it's only twenty bucks, I'll give it a go. I worked only with files and sandpaper, having no Dremel at the time, which did cause me issues when it got to some of the touchier areas that you found, like around the safety, the attachment screws, and edges. Like your first attempt, I also ended up taking too much material off a front edge, and especially around the bottom screws. Some areas I repaired, carefully re-scribing with an x-acto to reproduce the face cross-hatching after my repairs added back some strength and material with a cyanoacrylate & baking soda mix to those spots. You def have better fit to the edges of the frame, mine ended up being a bit "small" here and there. To keep the grips attached, I ended up adding plastic tabs and an even a metal hook to duplicate the plastic grip's original method of attachment. In the end, the wood was nice but it still ended up feeling somewhat flimsy, because it was not well attached in my opinion. Especially because I stripped the big screw holes somehow, making any attachment relying on them rather less secure. Ended up having to use some super thin & clear 3M double-sided automotive tape to attach them more securely. While they looked pretty good, they still felt hollow, much like the plastic grips it came with. I'm a perfectionist, I'll admit, so I wasn't happy with how on both yours and mine they didn't look quite right when viewed from some angles, even when fitted correctly. Yours, extending to the frame edge better, looks better I think. I just recently removed mine for the original plastic ones again which stay on rather more securely especially after I used a somewhat "permanent" thread lock to remedy the stripped screw holes. I think both the wood and plastic grips would benefit from some attached weight behind them to reduce the "hollow" feel which is the main thing that brings down this air gun reproduction, in my opinion. You know, people do pay extra for the real "Black Widow" Lugers with black bakelite grips, so I'd be happy if they just "felt more real", not hollow, maybe by finding/adding some sort of lead tape to the inside of the grip? Is there such a thing? I'm going to post some photos I just now took as proof that I actually did this, unlike all those claimed examples you and I read about before attempting. However none show them attached because I don't want to deal with the stripped screw holes unless I really have to, for example if someone wants to take these off my hands. At some point I am going to try this again, because, $twenty dolla, right? drive.google.com/file/d/1E_7lS_CspCjYqkZWSw0ZcOevFO5Muhbm/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1eeDh3Jy3Z8VJnTOzZnPoAdUus50xoWml/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1Sfv_6WEu0CfeIyEO4CXDl_ZRbsNi6HD0/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1779lC_rbB5cIxrLFXxYy6On8Fbh_2YUR/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/10lBBMk4qWg3WG-zv8G3Y-u4NcbSjPhc2/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1Px3uIc6TQfSsxWokfIv6z3wwMx7XBeaU/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1822RL9i4y0ymN7qOggHr1JuotXp0Y27l/view?usp=share_link
Hi, thanks for your message. It’s nice to know someone else has also tried this. I didn’t have the issue with the grips being very thin fortunately. After my first attempt I was cautious not to remove more material than needed. I know what you mean about the black widow but it’s just too much of a black look for me. I like the wood. Would be great to see what your grips look like on the Luger
Hello from Portugal, and thanks for this video. I want to buy at least two P-08s: the 4",and the 6"barrel lengths. This country had some Lugers 100 years ago. The last monarchy years, and in the 1st republic days, we had D.W.M.and Mauser ones. I do not know so far for sure what brand is more accurate to the real ones, and we do not have Japanese replicas expect Tokyo Mario, but it is complicated due to our "narrow" laws..😮😂.
Hi thanks for your message. These are the ones I bought: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185335076413?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=R8iJVM0lRgK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=yi-h8XuJSva&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I’m afraid not as the time it takes would massively outweigh what it would be worth financially. I only used basic tools and it just takes a lot of time to do. You should give it a go as grips don’t cost that much.
@@Waxmax yeah. I was expecting that. But you are right. I have the wooden grips already and will give it a try. Selfmade is always the best. Thanks for responding. And your vid is the best about this specific topic i could find.
Thank you very kind for you to say. The thing with me is that when I set my mind on something I will not quit despite the time it may take. Just take your time and keep checking progress when carving out the wood one small piece at a time. You will get there and once done you will be very proud of the results. I’m planning the same thing with the m29 smith & Wesson. Although despite searching constantly I can’t find the original/replica square butt grips the same as the Dirty Harry model, for less than $300 from eagle grips in USA. That’s a huge amount to pay for something that may not work. That’s assuming the Umarex model is actually a replica of the original N frame. I keep putting it off but I know I will end up doing it at some point. I just keep preying I can find the grips cheaper!! Needless to say, if I do, I will create a video on the conversion. It will be a first for TH-cam that’s for sure
this video would have been better if you had planned it better. A script would have been a good thing to use also. I rate the video D-. Less talk more planning.
Thanks for your comment. Can’t be arsed with scripts. It’s just a bit of fun and if people watch and like them great. If not, I won’t loose sleep over it. I’m not Mr Beast after all. Just a normal guy putting vids out for those who are interested.
Great tutorial.
I did this yesterday... starting with the easiser side.
I would say iook me around 5 hours all in, but not in one straight hit !!
I used fountain pen ink to see the high sp[ots... because that is what i had to hand. and its super eay to clean off. id already finished the outser side with fiddes hard wax oil... so no issue with getting ink into the wood.... (ie be careful if you use ink !!)
I didi't have any issue. But then I've been making furniture for years and have all the tools i needed. I did it almost entrirely by hand as it goes. chisels and knives (SHARP) slowly and carfully.
As Waxmax says. Don't rush it. its not possible to get it 100% perfect as the grips are not 100% identical to shape of teh black plasting ones.... but you can get it 99.5% which is wayyyyy beter than the plasttic.
The wood is hard, but prones ot schips and slinters so super shard tools are to my mind the most important part of this.
I saved a lot of time by watching this video. Cheers fella ! yuo inspired me to give it a go and i'm super happy with the end result.
Hi, thank you for your comment. Really pleased to hear that you tried and succeeded in doing the same thing. Would be great to see some photos if you’re able to upload them to TH-cam.
Thanks, I've been researching this BB gun recently. I do have to say that the grips do look a lot more nicer on the gun but the plastic ones seem to have a better fit.
Like you, but over two years ago, after extensive online searches I found no actual photo examples of real Luger grips having been modified to fit the Umarex P08 or similar air gun. I figured it's only twenty bucks, I'll give it a go. I worked only with files and sandpaper, having no Dremel at the time, which did cause me issues when it got to some of the touchier areas that you found, like around the safety, the attachment screws, and edges. Like your first attempt, I also ended up taking too much material off a front edge, and especially around the bottom screws. Some areas I repaired, carefully re-scribing with an x-acto to reproduce the face cross-hatching after my repairs added back some strength and material with a cyanoacrylate & baking soda mix to those spots. You def have better fit to the edges of the frame, mine ended up being a bit "small" here and there. To keep the grips attached, I ended up adding plastic tabs and an even a metal hook to duplicate the plastic grip's original method of attachment.
In the end, the wood was nice but it still ended up feeling somewhat flimsy, because it was not well attached in my opinion. Especially because I stripped the big screw holes somehow, making any attachment relying on them rather less secure. Ended up having to use some super thin & clear 3M double-sided automotive tape to attach them more securely. While they looked pretty good, they still felt hollow, much like the plastic grips it came with. I'm a perfectionist, I'll admit, so I wasn't happy with how on both yours and mine they didn't look quite right when viewed from some angles, even when fitted correctly. Yours, extending to the frame edge better, looks better I think. I just recently removed mine for the original plastic ones again which stay on rather more securely especially after I used a somewhat "permanent" thread lock to remedy the stripped screw holes. I think both the wood and plastic grips would benefit from some attached weight behind them to reduce the "hollow" feel which is the main thing that brings down this air gun reproduction, in my opinion. You know, people do pay extra for the real "Black Widow" Lugers with black bakelite grips, so I'd be happy if they just "felt more real", not hollow, maybe by finding/adding some sort of lead tape to the inside of the grip? Is there such a thing?
I'm going to post some photos I just now took as proof that I actually did this, unlike all those claimed examples you and I read about before attempting. However none show them attached because I don't want to deal with the stripped screw holes unless I really have to, for example if someone wants to take these off my hands. At some point I am going to try this again, because, $twenty dolla, right?
drive.google.com/file/d/1E_7lS_CspCjYqkZWSw0ZcOevFO5Muhbm/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/1eeDh3Jy3Z8VJnTOzZnPoAdUus50xoWml/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/1Sfv_6WEu0CfeIyEO4CXDl_ZRbsNi6HD0/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/1779lC_rbB5cIxrLFXxYy6On8Fbh_2YUR/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/10lBBMk4qWg3WG-zv8G3Y-u4NcbSjPhc2/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/1Px3uIc6TQfSsxWokfIv6z3wwMx7XBeaU/view?usp=share_link
drive.google.com/file/d/1822RL9i4y0ymN7qOggHr1JuotXp0Y27l/view?usp=share_link
Hi, thanks for your message. It’s nice to know someone else has also tried this. I didn’t have the issue with the grips being very thin fortunately. After my first attempt I was cautious not to remove more material than needed. I know what you mean about the black widow but it’s just too much of a black look for me. I like the wood. Would be great to see what your grips look like on the Luger
Hello from Portugal, and thanks for this video. I want to buy at least two P-08s: the 4",and the 6"barrel lengths. This country had some Lugers 100 years ago. The last monarchy years, and in the 1st republic days, we had D.W.M.and Mauser ones. I do not know so far for sure what brand is more accurate to the real ones, and we do not have Japanese replicas expect Tokyo Mario, but it is complicated due to our "narrow" laws..😮😂.
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I own the same gun. It's really nice, but not perfect with that cheap, plastic handle... Can you share the link to this wooden grips?
Hi thanks for your message. These are the ones I bought: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185335076413?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=R8iJVM0lRgK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=yi-h8XuJSva&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Can you make me some for a fair pay? I am too clumpsy and not having the right tools i‘m afraid. Left an abo anyways.
I’m afraid not as the time it takes would massively outweigh what it would be worth financially. I only used basic tools and it just takes a lot of time to do. You should give it a go as grips don’t cost that much.
@@Waxmax yeah. I was expecting that. But you are right. I have the wooden grips already and will give it a try. Selfmade is always the best. Thanks for responding. And your vid is the best about this specific topic i could find.
Thank you very kind for you to say. The thing with me is that when I set my mind on something I will not quit despite the time it may take. Just take your time and keep checking progress when carving out the wood one small piece at a time. You will get there and once done you will be very proud of the results. I’m planning the same thing with the m29 smith & Wesson. Although despite searching constantly I can’t find the original/replica square butt grips the same as the Dirty Harry model, for less than $300 from eagle grips in USA. That’s a huge amount to pay for something that may not work. That’s assuming the Umarex model is actually a replica of the original N frame. I keep putting it off but I know I will end up doing it at some point. I just keep preying I can find the grips cheaper!! Needless to say, if I do, I will create a video on the conversion. It will be a first for TH-cam that’s for sure
this video would have been better if you had planned it better. A script would have been a good thing to use also. I rate the video D-. Less talk more planning.
Thanks for your comment. Can’t be arsed with scripts. It’s just a bit of fun and if people watch and like them great. If not, I won’t loose sleep over it. I’m not Mr Beast after all. Just a normal guy putting vids out for those who are interested.