Sk8rAid takes you inside the LUTZ jump in various stages with some of the top names in Italian figure skating. We look at the single, double and triple lutz jumps.
After seeing these skaters fall on concrete, I feel like I have nothing to complain about when falling on ice with figure skating. BTW, are there any well known clockwise roller skaters out there? In the figure skating world, those of us who are clockwise are pretty rare, so I'm always on the lookout. :)
For some reason whenever I do jumps, I feel more comfortable turning clockwise than counter clockwise... but I've only recently started figure skating so I do it off ice/ off skates most times
Some really awesome jumping there. It's kind of like you scissors the legs like a split jump on the way up then turn the hips and pull in. Lifting the left knee up like a loop does not seem to work well. Timing too is very critical. This is a good visual aid to give skaters an idea of what to do and when to do it.
@@anni4995 It actually feels very similar. Only did roller skates a couple of times but the technique between them is very transferrable other than body weight.
Just out of curitosity, as I'm a figure skater and not a roller skater, but are quadruple jumps becomeing more popular/required for the guys in competitions?
it must be so much harder to underrotate jumps in roller skating, because in figure skating you can still land a jump quarter underrotated, maybe not perfectly, but roller skates you'd just fall, right?
roller skates are sooo heavy, so it’s like trying to do a quad with 2lb ankle weights on. I can do some decent off-ice/skates jumps but i’ve never gotten past on axel on quads
The coaches give great instruction and technique but, I also ice skate and the luzt jump looks sometimes like a flip jump when the students perform it but, not when the young man demonstrating the jump at first. I really see what think is a double/triple flip. Please show me the difference. Thank You!
Rafa Lopez in ice skating, the flip jump takes off on the inside edge and the lutz takes off on the outside. If this is not followed (as in the flip takes off on the outside edge, on accident), points would be deducted from the base value of the jump during competition.
I think they mean what is the difference between flip and lutz in roller skating. I do ice skating and am also wondering that. Do they have a way of distinguishing edges?
@@emiwyan2832 Edges work exactly the same for roller skates. The trucks move so that the wheels can point inside or outside, giving an inside or outside edge. If you want to know more about it, look up a video because a visual explanation would be a lot more helpful. But yeah, edges are the same for both ice skates and roller skates
Jake Dufflebags I guess you have no eyes to see it, right??? Why don’t you speak reality and honesty, saying that YOU couldn’t possibly do on wheels what you do on ice? That’s pretty obvious!
@@user-kh9ki3kq8m yeah I noticed it. On the last championships we were 3 boys with the double lutz and I was the only one with that outside edge (a tiny one but still outside) and when revising the goe I had the best one on that jump.
+Frozen IceStar And their outfits are like ice skating dresses and tights. SO CONFUZZLED! Or is it that some country's ice skates are just like that... IDK!!
OF COURSE!!!! I would suggest getting inlines as opposed to quads though, they'll feel a lot closer to ice skates. If you have an old ice skating boot you don't use anymore, you could totally just buy some inline frames and mount them to your old boot. I would suggest snow white frames, they're nice and feel a lot like ice skates without being as expensive or hard to find as pic frames
Lo que enseñan los italianos como si fuera una gran técnica, no es Lutz,,no existe el filo externo de despegue de un Lutz y menos la creación de energia que produce un buen filo externo. Incorrectos los aterrizajes, totalmente en Flat y no en externo como debe ser.Un aterrizaje correcto necesita de una buena tecnica de salto ,de elevacion, de rotación, todo esta intrínsecamente unido. Su seudotecnica solo desvirtua la gran belleza de los saltos del patinaje artístico.
Uhhh… most of these are flips, not lutzes. A lutz takes off with the foot solidly on a OUTSIDE edge. Most of these are either inside edges or flat edges at the time of takeoff. Not sure about roller skating, but on ice, these would only be given credit as flips.
If you did roller, you would understand how incredibly difficult it is to hit the outside edge on the lutz, and sure, these are 'not perfect' but they are good attempts and in new system on roller, the credit would also be reflected as such.
the fact that the edge quality in roller skating is low makes ice skating so much superior imo.. the lutzes here all have flat edges due to the use of toller skates, it ruins the beauty of it, with ice skates that doesnt happen
The person teaching it isn't teaching it right. You are never supposed to jump from a flat edge. All jumps have a specific entry edge and a specific exit edge.
who tf said to you that edge quality is low in artistic roller skating? We got fucking 8 edges, maaaaaaany different spins because of these edges (even heel camels and brokens, a thing ice doesn't have) and besides I really doubt it you ever successfully tried this elements to see if the edges are actually flat. This teaching is wrong, but if you don't have a clue about our sport don't assume rules that you don't know.
@@jessicateixeira4633 well my bad this video doesnt show all the edges u r praising, i dont wanna argue with someone that got off with their panties in a twist today 😟 and like i said its my opinion, i didnt say u have to agree with me. from what ive seen from this video and the other ones that have been recommended to me, there were no edges, it was all flat bc of the 4 wheels of the skate shoe. if these ppl (the ones from the vids) used those roller skates with aligned wheels, maybe it would resemble ice skating better. anyways thats what I SAW.
@@poop-nq2yw I'm not talking about your opinion, I didn't even said anything about ice skating cause prefering one or another is just personal opinion. But it is really disrespecful from someone that probably don't practice it to assume a missinformation like that, we spend months to achieve basic spins cause you can't cheat edges or you will fall, to someone totally random say "oh this doesn't have edges". I also watch ice skating and cheer for some ice skaters, but as an artistic roller skater and a coach, this is the type of mentality why we still don't have visibility besides our efforts.
@D H I totally agree, I really enjoy both sports, and in my opinion this discussion about which is better doesn’t even make sense. But it really hurts my guts to see comments in videos of Tanya skating saying that she should compete in ice like if we were some kind of bootleg figure skating, we are totally not! We are a 100% complete sport, not “figure skaters wannabees” like the comment I read. (Btw my feet are too wide in the front for Edea Fly boots, I use Risport Mercurio with Evo Roll-Line plates LMAO)
even the single lutz looks extremely classy when he lands it
4:00 Wow....
That looked like a quad.
The best thing is that it was a good lutz and not a flutz like the other ones
@@imthatextrakid8292 roller skates are so heavy that no one ever did a quad
After seeing these skaters fall on concrete, I feel like I have nothing to complain about when falling on ice with figure skating.
BTW, are there any well known clockwise roller skaters out there? In the figure skating world, those of us who are clockwise are pretty rare, so I'm always on the lookout. :)
Janet Slater I jump clockwise but I'm not well-known xD also falling on concrete is actually not that bad, on ice you'll get more bruises
For some reason whenever I do jumps, I feel more comfortable turning clockwise than counter clockwise... but I've only recently started figure skating so I do it off ice/ off skates most times
Meeeee
I’m a left I have a ur channel
Have you actually fallen on ice? They have it easy.
Some really awesome jumping there. It's kind of like you scissors the legs like a split jump on the way up then turn the hips and pull in. Lifting the left knee up like a loop does not seem to work well. Timing too is very critical. This is a good visual aid to give skaters an idea of what to do and when to do it.
Omg. I’m a figure skater, this wasn’t what I was looking for, but so good! I can’t even skate forward on roller skates!
Figure skate easy the artistic roller skating
@@yenimuhtesemyuzylkarakteri7145 figure skating is not easy I have been doing it for 2 years
I am a figure skater, and I can do triple lutz, but for me it’s impossible to even imagine how to do a double on roller skates.🤯
@@anni4995 It actually feels very similar. Only did roller skates a couple of times but the technique between them is very transferrable other than body weight.
they are so talented.. that guy is very lucky, he can fly, and it also looks so elegant
Just out of curitosity, as I'm a figure skater and not a roller skater, but are quadruple jumps becomeing more popular/required for the guys in competitions?
jfluter yes
I went straight for the quintuplet jumps to compete.
@@V.Z.69 ok
no artistic roller-skating isn’t really heading towards quad jumps, the sport really focuses on the artistry of skating!
honestly most of these should be credited as flips imo
as a figure skater this creeps me out
it must be so much harder to underrotate jumps in roller skating, because in figure skating you can still land a jump quarter underrotated, maybe not perfectly, but roller skates you'd just fall, right?
you can land a quarter under rotated on roller skates but for it to count in scores it has to be landed fully rotated
You can even fall easily on fully rotated jumps xD If you for example only land on two wheels...you'll fall more often than on icr
Wow it looks like figure ice skating. Just warmer.
awesome. has any roller skater perfected a quad yet?
Most of people say that is imposible!
The skates we use are way more heavy than ice skates... It´s really difficult....
roller skates are sooo heavy, so it’s like trying to do a quad with 2lb ankle weights on. I can do some decent off-ice/skates jumps but i’ve never gotten past on axel on quads
I wish there was a skating club in my country. There isn't even a smooth pavement, much less a club 😞
Flutzes fluztes everywhere
They don't have to have a back outside edge. Not sure that would even be possible on roller skates.
The coaches give great instruction and technique but, I also ice skate and the luzt jump looks sometimes like a flip jump when the students perform it but, not when the young man demonstrating the jump at first. I really see what think is a double/triple flip. Please show me the difference. Thank You!
Rafa Lopez in ice skating, the flip jump takes off on the inside edge and the lutz takes off on the outside. If this is not followed (as in the flip takes off on the outside edge, on accident), points would be deducted from the base value of the jump during competition.
I think they mean what is the difference between flip and lutz in roller skating. I do ice skating and am also wondering that. Do they have a way of distinguishing edges?
@@emiwyan2832 Edges work exactly the same for roller skates. The trucks move so that the wheels can point inside or outside, giving an inside or outside edge. If you want to know more about it, look up a video because a visual explanation would be a lot more helpful. But yeah, edges are the same for both ice skates and roller skates
I love how the coaches are most italian😍
Roller skating is nothing like figure skating. You can do about half as much as you can on ice
Jake Dufflebags not true
Ice preppies can’t roller skate, that’s for sure!!!
Jake Dufflebags I guess you have no eyes to see it, right??? Why don’t you speak reality and honesty, saying that YOU couldn’t possibly do on wheels what you do on ice? That’s pretty obvious!
I don't understand why there should be a rivalry between the two sports. Isn't there enough space under the sky?
Fuck yourself im a figure skater ice and roller and that's not true
FLUTZ, DUPLO FLUTZ E TRIPLO FLUTZ
Am I the only one who jumps on the outside edge instead of a non-edged jump on rolls?
that’s how it should be done! most of these weren’t done with very deep edges imo.
@@user-kh9ki3kq8m yeah I noticed it. On the last championships we were 3 boys with the double lutz and I was the only one with that outside edge (a tiny one but still outside) and when revising the goe I had the best one on that jump.
this is flip??
How do you get an outside edge on roller skates??😂
I'm happy I do figure skating this is terrifying
Who is the very last skater?? Great combo!
It's very different from a figure skating lutz jump.
Hello Summer Olympics Roller Figure Skating 😅
very interesting
Is this on roller skates or ice skates? It looks like they are on ice, but their sk8s looks like roller skates XD
+Frozen IceStar And their outfits are like ice skating dresses and tights. SO CONFUZZLED! Or is it that some country's ice skates are just like that... IDK!!
+Frozen IceStar They're roller skates .-.
it's the same as figure skating but on wheels
Lel
FrozenIceStar Idiot
Any video on toe loop? ;)
figure skating is still the best
John Paul nope
Yes it is
Figure Skating Stan nooo Maybe for you
Can I roller skate as a figure skater?
OF COURSE!!!! I would suggest getting inlines as opposed to quads though, they'll feel a lot closer to ice skates. If you have an old ice skating boot you don't use anymore, you could totally just buy some inline frames and mount them to your old boot. I would suggest snow white frames, they're nice and feel a lot like ice skates without being as expensive or hard to find as pic frames
A Lutz has to be off a back OUTSIDE edge. His isn't
Hello
Lo que enseñan los italianos como si fuera una gran técnica, no es Lutz,,no existe el filo externo de despegue de un Lutz y menos la creación de energia que produce un buen filo externo. Incorrectos los aterrizajes, totalmente en Flat y no en externo como debe ser.Un aterrizaje correcto necesita de una buena tecnica de salto ,de elevacion, de rotación, todo esta intrínsecamente unido. Su seudotecnica solo desvirtua la gran belleza de los saltos del patinaje artístico.
Who is it at 4:28??????? PLEASEEEEEEEE
Luca D’Alisera
omggggggggggggg
Uhhh… most of these are flips, not lutzes. A lutz takes off with the foot solidly on a OUTSIDE edge. Most of these are either inside edges or flat edges at the time of takeoff. Not sure about roller skating, but on ice, these would only be given credit as flips.
If you did roller, you would understand how incredibly difficult it is to hit the outside edge on the lutz, and sure, these are 'not perfect' but they are good attempts and in new system on roller, the credit would also be reflected as such.
Mi sa xhe qui sono l unico italiano...
*flip lol
È meglio pattinaggio sul ghiaccio
Flutz !!!!
the fact that the edge quality in roller skating is low makes ice skating so much superior imo.. the lutzes here all have flat edges due to the use of toller skates, it ruins the beauty of it, with ice skates that doesnt happen
The person teaching it isn't teaching it right. You are never supposed to jump from a flat edge. All jumps have a specific entry edge and a specific exit edge.
who tf said to you that edge quality is low in artistic roller skating? We got fucking 8 edges, maaaaaaany different spins because of these edges (even heel camels and brokens, a thing ice doesn't have) and besides I really doubt it you ever successfully tried this elements to see if the edges are actually flat. This teaching is wrong, but if you don't have a clue about our sport don't assume rules that you don't know.
@@jessicateixeira4633 well my bad this video doesnt show all the edges u r praising, i dont wanna argue with someone that got off with their panties in a twist today 😟
and like i said its my opinion, i didnt say u have to agree with me. from what ive seen from this video and the other ones that have been recommended to me, there were no edges, it was all flat bc of the 4 wheels of the skate shoe. if these ppl (the ones from the vids) used those roller skates with aligned wheels, maybe it would resemble ice skating better. anyways thats what I SAW.
@@poop-nq2yw I'm not talking about your opinion, I didn't even said anything about ice skating cause prefering one or another is just personal opinion. But it is really disrespecful from someone that probably don't practice it to assume a missinformation like that, we spend months to achieve basic spins cause you can't cheat edges or you will fall, to someone totally random say "oh this doesn't have edges". I also watch ice skating and cheer for some ice skaters, but as an artistic roller skater and a coach, this is the type of mentality why we still don't have visibility besides our efforts.
@D H I totally agree, I really enjoy both sports, and in my opinion this discussion about which is better doesn’t even make sense. But it really hurts my guts to see comments in videos of Tanya skating saying that she should compete in ice like if we were some kind of bootleg figure skating, we are totally not! We are a 100% complete sport, not “figure skaters wannabees” like the comment I read. (Btw my feet are too wide in the front for Edea Fly boots, I use Risport Mercurio with Evo Roll-Line plates LMAO)
I dislike it because they are talking italian
then learn italian so that you can understand him better XD
awesome. has any roller skater perfected a quad yet?