I've been coaching and teaching for 30 years. The "robot" movement works as good fundamentals for most beginning uncoordinated students. I agree with the method you are teaching but some students are so uncoordinated that they need a robotic movement at first and over time they will feel how to be fluid.
Agreed. Beginners are typically awkward, and it takes teaching certain methods "robotically", as he would say, in order for it to translate. I tell people to learn the basics the fundamental way, then once comfortable apply style to technique.
it's honestly amazing how fluid you can get from messing around shadow boxing, i've seen massive improvements in my boxing from shadow boxing constantly in work and the house, you're right though it's always handy to have some base level to work from.
When I started, I was extremely slow and clumsy. But after I started sparring with other ppl, I learned everything all over again, and naturally became more agile. Some ppl need to be put in situation where they need to be fluid and fast, to progress
Start with basic mechanics then add variation when they don’t need to THINK about the basics. I disagree with putting you weight on your back foot unless you need punching room. You are already reaching. You need center balance with a twist or front foot weight if you want some pop. He is teaching a slap. Thats just an arm punch. If you don’t lock your arm at the point of contact, your shoulder and hip rotation are wasted energy. May as well just slap. Its faster and if you turn your fist it looks like a punch anyway. I think what he is talking about is Canelo holding guard during the start of his pivot. Most guys “Cock” their arm at the beginning of the movement telegraphing the hook. Canelo starts the rotation then brings his arm up. Ryan Garcia does this as well. It disguises the hook as just a shoulder roll.
Are you high? He barely moves his foot when he says that and is completely different than say a Kenshin pivot. let me ask you a question: are your feet and hips different joints?
As a fighter now in transition to teaching and coaching, I find his videos useful. They help me find alternate ways to explain movement that I don't think of.
@Juann-je8gq I don't know, but coaching isn't really bout having had a professional record, across sports some of the best coaches/trainers weren't professional.
Thank effing Gawd. I'm learning striking basics right now, and the lead hook is so frustrating. There's no consensus; there's always SOMETHING wrong when someone else sees you throw it.
If you’re learning the striking basics then maybe dont follow this lesson, this is more intermediate. Sean was getting hella shit on insta for this vid because boxing coaches couldnt comprehend teaching something outside of the basics.
Agree with the above. With beginners, you're likely trying to just get them to not make this an arm punch. Things like weight placement and adjustments for range are more nuanced.
Don't get confused by the comments -- do what works for you. Keep it simple: the hook is meant to land on the side of the jaw/temple, so whatever path and mechanics makes that work with the least chance of getting intercepted... do that!
I gotta send you some praise, man. Fighting is tough, but teaching to fight is HARD. Every video of yours has explained things so much easier than my past coaches have. Much appreciation for knowing how to break things down in digestible terms!
Thank you and it's taught that way because in the kindergarten stage you step with the jab bring your back foot with the cross and then follow it with the perfect 90 degree hook. (Which will be placed perfectly because of the prior steps. It's taught that way to not skimp on the fundamental. This is more of a check hook.
@@coachamber4410 a strict 90 degree angle creates a short range hook. Meaning it actually doesn't work if you're "strictly" throwing it in combination of the 1-2, which are two long punches. You would miss your hook. However Both teaching methods needs to be taught and understood. The natural feel doesn't come until multiple correct connections, because a beginners natural insticnt would probably be an arm punch. Especially when the left hook is the hardest punch to throw correctly. I can recall how stiff I was when I first learned it lol - at that point there wasn't even any concept of pivoting yet.
That's what Wonderboy does. Karate puts alot of emphasis on exaggerating which is why the Techniques looks so stiff in Kata, but once you do Kumite (sparring), you can losen up while still maintaining good technique.
Exactly, it's wild how the new marketing scheme is to pretend like you're a good teacher simply be downing the basic of the entire sport you're talking about.
I agree, boxin coach always berates me for my "mma lookin ahh hook" but id say they're correct, canelo does hit it without pivoting exaggerated... I always notice that once you master the fundamentals correctly you can break the rules &make it look easy
Depends on style. Tyson used the first kind of hook predominantly. But his stance is way different. The delivery system changes how you do things. If you’re in a different stance you throw the hook different. Also, it depends on your height and reach. No point teaching a longer range hook to fighter with no reach or a short compact hook to a fighter with longer reach. You have to fight to your body. There’s no cookie cutter approach. Only suggestions. You have to find your own way in to it.
same with soviet boxers like the main 4 Champs who rule their division, they know that power comes from the ground up with rotation and tight non telegraphs
All I’m gonna say is the way he’s throwing it leaves you open for for a counter straight right. Definitely don’t throw it the way Canelo is throwing it. It works for Canelo because of his reputation and how he sets it up. Plus Canelo drops it and whips it around
every fkn hook leaves you open for a counter, fk every strike you throw is when you are the most venerable. You really thought you cooked.. you lift weights bro you don't fight.
@@RealTalkOttawa The fact that you couldn't reply to him without resorting to cheap insults really says something about you lol -- also, "venerable"?? How embarrassing ha ha
@@RealTalkOttawa I know that your intelligence level probably isn't very high given that you can't distinguish the word "venerable" from "vulnerable" xD
everything is situational. Mike always played the tight pocket game so his hooks were perfect for the distance. The further you are, the less 90 you should have eventually turning the fist horizontal when landing instead of vertical. Also, the front foot turn is situational as well. For me, in Muay Thai you can generate good power by fully rotating, but doing so makes you easy to kick in the leg. So you try not to fully turn the foot on hooks. If you’re just boxing tho, you can get away with the foot turn since you don’t have to worry about checking kicks
its almost like punching a person, whos gunna move vs punching a bag who isnt leads to throwing every punch different to make the connection.... yh doing what he say in both ways is great, but what if the guy is stepping in, moving out, stood still etc? gunna throw the same punch every time in every situation? but ive never trained at all so roast me if you want
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Some people over exaggerate their pivot and either overturn, lose their balance, telegraph their shots, etc. I think he’s teaching us purpose of body mechanics
@@Anthony-nq9ih OK, i love pivoting and sometimes over pivoting... They all servea purpose during certain situations!.. He said Don't do it and during his "examples" he ended up pivoting every time!.? Practice what you preach
Shane has been doing this for years though, I watched his kickboxing videos 8 years ago in high school. Dude's not a trend chaser, this is his life fr.
What I'd add is that I'd emphasize rotating the hip alone first, leaving the shoulder and arm in the original position, creating stored energy in the twist that the waist now has. Then let the shoulder follow, then the arm and lastly the fist, like an arrow being released from a bow. This all should happen in a fluid instant but those are the micro-steps to create power in the hook (and many strikes).
Thank you so much for teaching this I’ve been preaching This forever and you can absolutely throw left hooks at longer ranges Everyone should practice long hooks as well as the short ones
His weight was on his rear leg. He rotated his front leg with his pivot from his back leg. In other words, he pivot on his rear leg and his front leg just followed his hips if that makes sense.
@@Exile8oh8 yep. It's definitely the order of movement that most seem to miss in the comments. The wrong way is starting the movement with a pivot. You can tell the difference during his "wrong" demonstration; no weight shift at all.
@@Exile8oh8dog.. stand up right now and throw a lead hook. If you’ve been trained, your lead foot isn’t turning over.. disrupting the entire kinetic chain when you don’t sit down. In this video. Everytime he thrown the hook he’s turning on the balls of his lead foot. Stop commenting to me yall do not box. Stop.
@@toreworld5820 I may not box but I've been studying human movement long enough to know my comment ain't wrong. I also know I understood what I was looking at better than you understood what I wrote. So I'll go learn how to box when you go learn English.
Terrible advice, so you think because Floyd mayweather uses philly shell that we should all be using the philly shell? Or because pro boxers have their hands down we should have our hands down?
Throw each example yourself and find out that each has their application. Front foot pivot - quicker with deeper follow through in exchange for less distance and less ability to maneuver out of range, should be used in a step-in combo where you're not concerned about your opponents offense or counteroffense Back foot pivot - causes more strain on the lower spine. a sharper snap on impact and a more maneuverable position in exchange for less knockback. Should be used in a step-out combo where you are worried about your opponent's offense and to evade, duck out, easier. It isn't so simple as "one good the other not". Great teach though.
This is hands down the greatest piece of advise I have for anyone working on their left hook, my first ever kickboxing coach taught me this when I was going in for a boxing fight. Changed my left hook completely. And he explained it almost the exact same way Shane did.
literally did everything he said not to do🤦🏻♂️tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue. the way you "shouldnt" do it is exactly the correct way to do it
And then theres DDP. Does everything wrong but is somehow the Middleweight champion. Oh and let's not forget Derek Lewis grappling skills which involves 'just getting up' 😂
WRONG, SIR.. But U R not alone. 3/4 of the Martial WORLD HAS IT WRONG including Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier and Michael Bisping and Dana White.. Alex Pereira is not Knocking Fighters in the UFC Unconscious with a WRONG or INCORRECTLY THROWN LEFT HOOK!!! NOR DID HE IN GLORY, NOR K1. In fact, he is NOT throwing a HOOK at all... He is Striking with a seldom used, seldom taught, rarely understood Ancient Striking Technique known as THE ANGLE PUNCH!! Also known as THE ANGULAR PUNCH!! It is simply the Punch that is formed at 45° when U cut the 90 Angle between an Uppercut and a Hook in half!!! The reasons that it is so devastating as a Weapon are: 1) It is always launched with almost imperceptible Origin and Trajectory and not seen until after the Victim gets hit!! 2) Inorder for it to maintain its Non-Telegraphic and Imperceptible Flight it must be launched at Close Quarters in Trapping or Grappling Clinch Range!! 3) It makes Contact BONE ON BONE with the Fighting Knuckles of the Index and Middle Finger Knuckles and then continues 3 t6 6 inches on an upward, diagonal flight pattern-follow through that Snaps and twists the head violently causing a Synapse Disconnect of the Spinal Cord and Brain Stem sending shockwaves through the jawbone and neck upward to the brain!! Master Darrell W. Hayes, 9th Dan Kyoshi. Founder of KUJUBOKI - THE STREET WARRIOR MIXED MARTIAL ART. 🥋🥷🤺🧍
The simplicity of what he teaches is what makes him the best at teaching . These are things that people just take for granted, a lot of coaches never tell their guys that its okay to adapt to your body mechanics once you have the basics down. Just because we're born with the same limbs, it does not mean that we're designed the same way. What works for another person, might not work for you. The sidekick, is a major thing that causes injuries or ligament damage to guys trying to throw it in the same way that they see other people throwing it. Its not always a flexibility thing, your hip joints are not going to be a replica of someone elses hip joints. Seen guys drop to the floor trying to throw it perfectly perpendicular. Much safer and mote effective to engage your glutes into it.
@@Yadi2GoodReynoso well then I guess him and I both are. I've personally got about 10 years of experience and I'm sure Shane has more than that. So please enlighten us on what exactly he's wrong about
Oh snap just saw your profile pic, you're a 12 year old in your first month of cardio kick boxing class. Loll humble up young fella you've got long ways to go
Such a good teaching. I don’t believe you need to pivot on front font at all. Staying planted or “sitting down” creates much more force and balance. Just like he said watch Canelo
😂😂😂 love this intro. I can make a song with this. 🗣️🎙️🎼"Somebody told uuuu, to do a hook like this? Like this? Like this? What's this? What's this? What is this? What is this? Somebody told ya to pivot yuh foot.
@@majinnemesisyour absolutely wrong boxers where more skilled in Mike Tyson's era and even before, there were many styles that have been lost over time, today's boxing is more of a standard style, now I would say that strength training is far better now and nutrition . Mike would only be better now if he could bring Cus D'amato back with him ,(The creator of the peek a boo style )
@@j.r31 nope technique has only improved and styles haven't been lost but they are being merged, why learn one style when you can just learn them all same thing with MMA, it's a mix of several martial arts, when settle with just one style?
I teach pivoting on the lead foot only to beginners who 1: are only boxing for recreation and 2: have trouble turning their hips into their punches. The pivot can be like adding training wheels onto the hook. Once they get that rotational awareness in their hips, they can take the pivot out. Works well!
I don't teach it to any level of my fighters, because it is simplly poor body mechanics. A natural transition of weight is one thing....tippy toe with a 90 degree rotation like this guy is showing is anatomically stupid and sucks the power instantly.
😂 he jus admited that the 90 degree feels natural from a close range:)) second, the pivot is a good tool to learn how to put the weight behind the punch.
Literally just tried this on my heavy bag. In the spirit of doing what works for me, the tip of pulling the hip back more: definitely feels better. Might still need to pre-set my hand though. My form still sucks there. Thanks, Shane!
I do like the concept of not being a robot. The hook can be done at quite a range of angles. It’s important to keep eye contact on the person, use your whole body to support the power, but have the flexibility to throw it differently (like moving backwards, forwards, or pivoting). Also, for people with weak wrists, i highly recommend keeping your wrist and arm aligned like a solid unit and not bend the wrist so to avoid injury. when you’re like me and can break wood or jaws with knuckles and have that tolerance, then it’s safer to punch at “crazier” angles.
Thank you for this! I have made the mistake before of teaching people to throw hooks that way, then realizing that I throw it differently. Never been able to articulate it like this!
Oh this'll make a difference for me. I've been adding a slight drop to my cross for some time now but haven't done it to my lead hook. Excited to try this out.
I think this works better for more experienced people than a brand new learner. Someone learning will struggle and learn looping hooks. The way they teach you isn’t supposed to be fluid, it’s so that you learn the roatation and to keep the hook short. Most other physical activities are treated the same, over-exaggerated form while learning. Then as you fully learn you can start what you are saying or other methods.
Yup great advice, at the end a good thing to remember is on long hooks make sure you’re “stirring the pot” that motion will help long hooks feel really good. On the inside hooks make sure thumb is up… creates a shit ton of power!!!
Bro , I’ve been training in martial arts for so many years and finally someone sees the same thing I’ve been saying about the the lead hooks thanks for posting this video bro keep up the good work Shane .
I like to square up my shoulders ever so slightly and momentarily,somewhat feining a right hand,then snapping round the left hook. Do you think that becomes too obvious really quick? Even if sometimes i do throw the right hand or the reverse left straight or a left liver shot. So there is variety. But thats the only way the hook feels comfortable and powerful.
This is why I love martial arts. Its really art. Everyone learns almost the same basics and develop their styles from that, until the point where the same punches look completely different
Okay, so I could've been a pro boxer with terrible defense, but I'm barely 207 lbs and just a tad under 6'0. My coaches taught it a little differently but my Kenpo background caused me to train the open hand palm strike a lot. It ended up like you just taught, and I could knock anyone out with my lead hook. It's so beautiful that you teach this as I always felt like I was doing my hook wrong! Turns out it was right all along! Thank you coach!
I started my boxing career 7 years ago in my garage and your video. My biggest takeaway when teaching the cross and lead hook is the shift of weight from you front leg to your rear
from what I understand is that the weight during the a mid range hook is placed more on the back foot, thus center of the pivot is felt around the back hip. If the weight is on the front foot during the movement, you are likely prone to absorbing more force, dangerous. Further more, that it's nice to extend the hook during the end of the pivot at mid range, to reduce the risk of the straight, this also results in a whip effect. The pivot of the front foot, with less weight on it when done as shown, is only the result of the pivot and weight closer to the back foot and hip. Just my humble perspective.
I've been coaching and teaching for 30 years. The "robot" movement works as good fundamentals for most beginning uncoordinated students. I agree with the method you are teaching but some students are so uncoordinated that they need a robotic movement at first and over time they will feel how to be fluid.
Agreed. Beginners are typically awkward, and it takes teaching certain methods "robotically", as he would say, in order for it to translate. I tell people to learn the basics the fundamental way, then once comfortable apply style to technique.
This should have 8k likes bro
it's honestly amazing how fluid you can get from messing around shadow boxing, i've seen massive improvements in my boxing from shadow boxing constantly in work and the house, you're right though it's always handy to have some base level to work from.
When I started, I was extremely slow and clumsy. But after I started sparring with other ppl, I learned everything all over again, and naturally became more agile. Some ppl need to be put in situation where they need to be fluid and fast, to progress
Start with basic mechanics then add variation when they don’t need to THINK about the basics. I disagree with putting you weight on your back foot unless you need punching room. You are already reaching. You need center balance with a twist or front foot weight if you want some pop. He is teaching a slap. Thats just an arm punch. If you don’t lock your arm at the point of contact, your shoulder and hip rotation are wasted energy. May as well just slap. Its faster and if you turn your fist it looks like a punch anyway. I think what he is talking about is Canelo holding guard during the start of his pivot. Most guys “Cock” their arm at the beginning of the movement telegraphing the hook. Canelo starts the rotation then brings his arm up. Ryan Garcia does this as well. It disguises the hook as just a shoulder roll.
"I can absolutely turn my hip without pivoting the foot"
*pivots his foot every time*
Every single time
Exactly 😭 so do I pivot it or not
Says no power from robot move. Proceeds to have no power.
You're absolutely right. Very contradicting
Are you high? He barely moves his foot when he says that and is completely different than say a Kenshin pivot. let me ask you a question: are your feet and hips different joints?
Ima say this, it's not just that Shane has the fight game down, it's that he knows how to TEACH. That's just as important. He really dropping lessons
Tyson used it didn’t he
As a fighter now in transition to teaching and coaching, I find his videos useful. They help me find alternate ways to explain movement that I don't think of.
Facts bro can teach
@Juann-je8gq I don't know, but coaching isn't really bout having had a professional record, across sports some of the best coaches/trainers weren't professional.
He literally just try teaching a punch he said not to do
‘Hey man, there’s a fly on your head.’ *demolishes the guys brain stem
😂
On the bright side, at least the guy can't feel the fly anymore...or his legs...or the taste of solid food.
LOL
“You got a bee on a ya hat”
*Slap*
@@JpocalypseHD beat me to it lmao
Thank effing Gawd. I'm learning striking basics right now, and the lead hook is so frustrating. There's no consensus; there's always SOMETHING wrong when someone else sees you throw it.
If you’re learning the striking basics then maybe dont follow this lesson, this is more intermediate. Sean was getting hella shit on insta for this vid because boxing coaches couldnt comprehend teaching something outside of the basics.
Agree with the above. With beginners, you're likely trying to just get them to not make this an arm punch. Things like weight placement and adjustments for range are more nuanced.
takes a long time to get good at it. keep going! before you know it people will be asking you how you hit so hard
Dont listen to these people. Its almost always better to learn things right the hard way than to learn things mediocre the ez way
Don't get confused by the comments -- do what works for you. Keep it simple: the hook is meant to land on the side of the jaw/temple, so whatever path and mechanics makes that work with the least chance of getting intercepted... do that!
I gotta send you some praise, man. Fighting is tough, but teaching to fight is HARD. Every video of yours has explained things so much easier than my past coaches have. Much appreciation for knowing how to break things down in digestible terms!
the reason u focus on body rotation or exagerate it in training is so when u fight in instinct u still have solid technique.
Thank you and it's taught that way because in the kindergarten stage you step with the jab bring your back foot with the cross and then follow it with the perfect 90 degree hook. (Which will be placed perfectly because of the prior steps. It's taught that way to not skimp on the fundamental. This is more of a check hook.
Bad technique is bad.
Overexxagerating the movements in training makes you overexxagerate the movements in a serious competition/fight.
@@coachamber4410 a strict 90 degree angle creates a short range hook. Meaning it actually doesn't work if you're "strictly" throwing it in combination of the 1-2, which are two long punches. You would miss your hook.
However Both teaching methods needs to be taught and understood. The natural feel doesn't come until multiple correct connections, because a beginners natural insticnt would probably be an arm punch. Especially when the left hook is the hardest punch to throw correctly. I can recall how stiff I was when I first learned it lol - at that point there wasn't even any concept of pivoting yet.
That's what Wonderboy does. Karate puts alot of emphasis on exaggerating which is why the Techniques looks so stiff in Kata, but once you do Kumite (sparring), you can losen up while still maintaining good technique.
Exactly, it's wild how the new marketing scheme is to pretend like you're a good teacher simply be downing the basic of the entire sport you're talking about.
He pretty much did nearly everything he told us NOT to do. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah. Basic hook technique is to build on. He's telling you to stop being a newbie and "get good".
@@StrangersIteDomum i think ive missed "stop beeing a noob and get good" whileist hearing what to do instead
@@SlashRules228 yeah I'm sure you train all the time
We got an internet fighter here
😂🤣😂😂😂
Hd literally pivoted each time he displayed " the right way"
Shhh 🤫
That's why this is literally the wrong way
Lmao i noticed it too, both times
I agree, boxin coach always berates me for my "mma lookin ahh hook" but id say they're correct, canelo does hit it without pivoting exaggerated... I always notice that once you master the fundamentals correctly you can break the rules &make it look easy
😂😂😂
Depends on style. Tyson used the first kind of hook predominantly. But his stance is way different. The delivery system changes how you do things. If you’re in a different stance you throw the hook different. Also, it depends on your height and reach. No point teaching a longer range hook to fighter with no reach or a short compact hook to a fighter with longer reach. You have to fight to your body. There’s no cookie cutter approach. Only suggestions. You have to find your own way in to it.
same with soviet boxers like the main 4 Champs who rule their division, they know that power comes from the ground up with rotation and tight non telegraphs
All I’m gonna say is the way he’s throwing it leaves you open for for a counter straight right. Definitely don’t throw it the way Canelo is throwing it. It works for Canelo because of his reputation and how he sets it up. Plus Canelo drops it and whips it around
every fkn hook leaves you open for a counter, fk every strike you throw is when you are the most venerable. You really thought you cooked.. you lift weights bro you don't fight.
@@RealTalkOttawa The fact that you couldn't reply to him without resorting to cheap insults really says something about you lol -- also, "venerable"?? How embarrassing ha ha
@DisgruntledCommenter-iu7gz lmao your opinion is just that, you dont know shit about me from a comment dumb goof
@@RealTalkOttawa Uh, I know that your IQ probably isn't very high given your inability to distinguish the word "venerable" from "vulnerable" lmao
@@RealTalkOttawa I know that your intelligence level probably isn't very high given that you can't distinguish the word "venerable" from "vulnerable" xD
Thank you Sir! Great explaination and great form, as always.
Idk Mike Tyson did it that way and it seemed to have a lot of power😂😂
Thank you! I 90 degree my left hook and pivot when fighters are on the inside
everything is situational. Mike always played the tight pocket game so his hooks were perfect for the distance. The further you are, the less 90 you should have eventually turning the fist horizontal when landing instead of vertical. Also, the front foot turn is situational as well. For me, in Muay Thai you can generate good power by fully rotating, but doing so makes you easy to kick in the leg. So you try not to fully turn the foot on hooks. If you’re just boxing tho, you can get away with the foot turn since you don’t have to worry about checking kicks
Alex Pereira too
Yeah but you’re not Mike. If you attempted his peekaboo style you’d get mauled.
its almost like punching a person, whos gunna move vs punching a bag who isnt leads to throwing every punch different to make the connection....
yh doing what he say in both ways is great, but what if the guy is stepping in, moving out, stood still etc?
gunna throw the same punch every time in every situation?
but ive never trained at all so roast me if you want
Wow! So much great information here! I’ve been following your channel for a long time but it’s been a while since I’ve seen a vid! Glad to see your content has only improved! Great vid.
Dude I love your channel. Your educational style is the perfect mix of informative, succinct and entertaining. So stoked to see your sub growth over the years as well! All the best from NZ
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😂Dafuq!?? That boy LITERALLY pivoted EVERY TIME he hit tha Dummy!!... Crazy😖
Exactly! 😂
Some people over exaggerate their pivot and either overturn, lose their balance, telegraph their shots, etc. I think he’s teaching us purpose of body mechanics
@@Anthony-nq9ih OK, i love pivoting and sometimes over pivoting... They all servea purpose during certain situations!.. He said Don't do it and during his "examples" he ended up pivoting every time!.? Practice what you preach
@@cflDaBeasthe phrased it wrong, the pivot isn't necessary
@@CybertroninfiniteOfficial Why didn't he film a different take if he wanted to demonstate how its not necessary?
Yes! I was told that Shane! Thanks. I’ve developed the distant factor on my own, obviously anyone would. Excellent advice, excellent demonstration!
Social media where everyone teaches how to box lmao
Shane has been doing this for years though, I watched his kickboxing videos 8 years ago in high school. Dude's not a trend chaser, this is his life fr.
Been following Fight tips for quite some time, got to say Shane has come a long way... Keep up the quality content. 😎💪
What I'd add is that I'd emphasize rotating the hip alone first, leaving the shoulder and arm in the original position, creating stored energy in the twist that the waist now has. Then let the shoulder follow, then the arm and lastly the fist, like an arrow being released from a bow. This all should happen in a fluid instant but those are the micro-steps to create power in the hook (and many strikes).
You get it, the guy demonstrating doesn't
You actually explained it perfectly. Respect, from the 209 🤙🏽
Thank you Shane! After all this years you can teach me some important basics!🙏🏾
Bro says don't pivot on your lead foot - > manages to absolutely pivot on his foot when demonstrating the way he wants you to do it 😂
This guys making something out of nothing man said not to 90 degree your left cook nd not to pivot 😂😂
The pivot doesn't mean anything alone; you can have it or leave it, it's about the weight being shifted. He never demonstrated the Canelo style either
I think the point is actually to not feel like you should always do it, he's it'll come off naturally but you still gotta have some technique right.
😂😭💀
He never said don't pivot your foot he said make sure turn your hip and shift the weight before the pivot
Thank you so much for teaching this I’ve been preaching This forever and you can absolutely throw left hooks at longer ranges
Everyone should practice long hooks as well as the short ones
Funniest part of this video was when you rotated your lead foot when you showed us how you teach a hook 🤣🤣🤣🤣🧐🧐🧐
His weight was on his rear leg. He rotated his front leg with his pivot from his back leg. In other words, he pivot on his rear leg and his front leg just followed his hips if that makes sense.
@@Exile8oh8 yep. It's definitely the order of movement that most seem to miss in the comments.
The wrong way is starting the movement with a pivot. You can tell the difference during his "wrong" demonstration; no weight shift at all.
Just isn’t what happened but okay
@@Exile8oh8dog.. stand up right now and throw a lead hook. If you’ve been trained, your lead foot isn’t turning over.. disrupting the entire kinetic chain when you don’t sit down. In this video. Everytime he thrown the hook he’s turning on the balls of his lead foot. Stop commenting to me yall do not box. Stop.
@@toreworld5820 I may not box but I've been studying human movement long enough to know my comment ain't wrong. I also know I understood what I was looking at better than you understood what I wrote. So I'll go learn how to box when you go learn English.
This is exactly what I needed. If you see this thanks so much you made a dofference for me
Listen to the people who dominate the sport of boxing.
Canelo
Terrible advice, so you think because Floyd mayweather uses philly shell that we should all be using the philly shell? Or because pro boxers have their hands down we should have our hands down?
Throw each example yourself and find out that each has their application.
Front foot pivot - quicker with deeper follow through in exchange for less distance and less ability to maneuver out of range, should be used in a step-in combo where you're not concerned about your opponents offense or counteroffense
Back foot pivot - causes more strain on the lower spine. a sharper snap on impact and a more maneuverable position in exchange for less knockback. Should be used in a step-out combo where you are worried about your opponent's offense and to evade, duck out, easier.
It isn't so simple as "one good the other not".
Great teach though.
Makes so much sense, I’ve been struggling with my left hook for so long, I’m defo gonna practice this
Keep practicing
Keep practicing, this is a lazy way to throw a weak hook with all the weight on the WRONG foot
Bro does not know what he is talking about 😂
Him: “What I need you to do is not pivot your foot”
Also Him: *Instantly pivots his foot numerous times*
I'm glad you said that because when you learn the "proper" way and then watch actual fights you never see that taking place
I see this also. The pros don’t pivot that hard
First learn pivoting guys. Dont compare yourself to canelo, gennady and others… no pivoting comes with skill
They only pivot that hard when they go for the knockout when the other guy is open @@LeadLeftLeon
@@LeadLeftLeonthat’s because they’ve done it for years. learn the rules before you break them
This is hands down the greatest piece of advise I have for anyone working on their left hook, my first ever kickboxing coach taught me this when I was going in for a boxing fight. Changed my left hook completely. And he explained it almost the exact same way Shane did.
😂😂he literally did what he told us not to do.
That’s only if you’re close enough, did you listen?
@AidenTheMK yea, but did you read my comment
Been watching Shane since I was young. Definitely helped me over the years 🙌
Expert trainer says to STOP doing A
Demo: Expert trainer proceeds to do A
literally did everything he said not to do🤦🏻♂️tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue. the way you "shouldnt" do it is exactly the correct way to do it
This guy doesn't know how to fight.
@daltonh217
If a video is good there should be no need to defend it
@@hotlanta35 i wasnt defending it. im not sure what you mean?
Thx for the lesson ❤
Have you seen Alex Pereira? Man knocks people tf out with the wrong technique😂 scary power
And then theres DDP. Does everything wrong but is somehow the Middleweight champion.
Oh and let's not forget Derek Lewis grappling skills which involves 'just getting up' 😂
He has great technique tho
WRONG, SIR.. But U R not alone. 3/4 of the Martial WORLD HAS IT WRONG including Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier and Michael Bisping and Dana White.. Alex Pereira is not Knocking Fighters in the UFC Unconscious with a WRONG or INCORRECTLY THROWN LEFT HOOK!!! NOR DID HE IN GLORY, NOR K1. In fact, he is NOT throwing a HOOK at all... He is Striking with a seldom used, seldom taught, rarely understood Ancient Striking Technique known as THE ANGLE PUNCH!! Also known as THE ANGULAR PUNCH!! It is simply the Punch that is formed at 45° when U cut the 90 Angle between an Uppercut and a Hook in half!!! The reasons that it is so devastating as a Weapon are: 1) It is always launched with almost imperceptible Origin and Trajectory and not seen until after the Victim gets hit!!
2) Inorder for it to maintain its Non-Telegraphic and Imperceptible Flight it must be launched at Close Quarters in Trapping or Grappling Clinch Range!! 3) It makes Contact BONE ON BONE with the Fighting Knuckles of the Index and Middle Finger Knuckles and then continues 3 t6 6 inches on an upward, diagonal flight pattern-follow through that Snaps and twists the head violently causing a Synapse Disconnect of the Spinal Cord and Brain Stem sending shockwaves through the jawbone and neck upward to the brain!!
Master Darrell W. Hayes,
9th Dan Kyoshi.
Founder of KUJUBOKI - THE STREET WARRIOR MIXED MARTIAL ART. 🥋🥷🤺🧍
Imma leave a comment to further boost this video
And again
The simplicity of what he teaches is what makes him the best at teaching . These are things that people just take for granted, a lot of coaches never tell their guys that its okay to adapt to your body mechanics once you have the basics down. Just because we're born with the same limbs, it does not mean that we're designed the same way. What works for another person, might not work for you. The sidekick, is a major thing that causes injuries or ligament damage to guys trying to throw it in the same way that they see other people throwing it. Its not always a flexibility thing, your hip joints are not going to be a replica of someone elses hip joints. Seen guys drop to the floor trying to throw it perfectly perpendicular. Much safer and mote effective to engage your glutes into it.
Ye that's great and all but he's wrong
@@Yadi2GoodReynoso well then I guess him and I both are. I've personally got about 10 years of experience and I'm sure Shane has more than that. So please enlighten us on what exactly he's wrong about
Oh snap just saw your profile pic, you're a 12 year old in your first month of cardio kick boxing class. Loll humble up young fella you've got long ways to go
@@Gh0st_0723 oh snap u still don't know what ur saying, I'm not even 12 in that picture and don't even look the same
@@Gh0st_0723 I'm saying he's wrong because he is saying the first one is wrong
Love this dudes stuff ❤
My teacher taught me to just turn our arm out when you’re in guard and it didn’t matter about your pivot that much more about your hip
You had a smart teacher who understands human body mechanics
This helped a lot it really improved my power
💯
Such a good teaching. I don’t believe you need to pivot on front font at all. Staying planted or “sitting down” creates much more force and balance. Just like he said watch Canelo
It’s a very positive lesson and addresses the hook well
*"Pivoting on the front foot" update patch didn't work on the player in the video..* 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 love this intro. I can make a song with this.
🗣️🎙️🎼"Somebody told uuuu,
to do a hook like this?
Like this?
Like this?
What's this?
What's this?
What is this?
What is this?
Somebody told ya to pivot yuh foot.
"Turn the hip without pivoting the foot...like canelo Alvarez", then continues to ridiculously over pivot on the foot..😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Thanks 👍👍
So, just to be clear, you're saying we shouldn't try to emulate Mike Tyson? Cause he throws the hook exactly how you tell us not to.
He did say, it works if you’re very close. Which was Mike’s style.
you realize that from mike tyson's time to now technique has improved right? Mike Tsyon nowadays would be a lot better and so would be his opponents
@@majinnemesisyour absolutely wrong boxers where more skilled in Mike Tyson's era and even before, there were many styles that have been lost over time, today's boxing is more of a standard style, now I would say that strength training is far better now and nutrition . Mike would only be better now if he could bring Cus D'amato back with him ,(The creator of the peek a boo style )
@@majinnemesisactually no, technique been lost over the years
@@j.r31 nope technique has only improved and styles haven't been lost but they are being merged, why learn one style when you can just learn them all same thing with MMA, it's a mix of several martial arts, when settle with just one style?
Can we please talk about how Ben ate those punches like they were nothing? True professional right there! #teambob
Personally, I think that looked shit.
Good stuff bro 💪 somebody finally said something
The bigger question is why is that training dummy called *"Bob"* universally? 😂😂😂
It’s the official name from Century. B.O.B. stands for Body Opponent Bag. It’s ubiquitous enough that people just say Bob.
@@Grisly69 I appreciate it! Funnily enough I ended up buying one on FB Marketplace a few days ago. They're actually quite fun 😂
So beautiful that you mentioned Canelo 🇲🇽
I teach pivoting on the lead foot only to beginners who 1: are only boxing for recreation and 2: have trouble turning their hips into their punches. The pivot can be like adding training wheels onto the hook. Once they get that rotational awareness in their hips, they can take the pivot out. Works well!
I don't teach it to any level of my fighters, because it is simplly poor body mechanics. A natural transition of weight is one thing....tippy toe with a 90 degree rotation like this guy is showing is anatomically stupid and sucks the power instantly.
Clear and concise 💪
😂 he jus admited that the 90 degree feels natural from a close range:)) second, the pivot is a good tool to learn how to put the weight behind the punch.
Literally just tried this on my heavy bag. In the spirit of doing what works for me, the tip of pulling the hip back more: definitely feels better.
Might still need to pre-set my hand though. My form still sucks there.
Thanks, Shane!
I do like the concept of not being a robot. The hook can be done at quite a range of angles. It’s important to keep eye contact on the person, use your whole body to support the power, but have the flexibility to throw it differently (like moving backwards, forwards, or pivoting). Also, for people with weak wrists, i highly recommend keeping your wrist and arm aligned like a solid unit and not bend the wrist so to avoid injury. when you’re like me and can break wood or jaws with knuckles and have that tolerance, then it’s safer to punch at “crazier” angles.
You pivoted the whole time lol
His lead hook looked pretty giggle fucken weak
Thanks for the great video man
Bro, do you do personal boxing lessons? If so, where?
Solid advice bro 👌💯
I've always thought that!!!
Glad to hear am expert confirm it!
I guess it's something that comes easier to ppl who are just 'naturals'...
Muy bueno profe, saludos desde Argentina.
....yeah idk about that. That's how I pop my shoulder out. I reach to far and pop it
wrong drop your right leg back it generates more power and sets you up for the kick
Teaching is harder than doing in the fight game. Respect. Solid lead hook advice.
Loved how he tought about Bobs feelings and gave him an imaginery arm, depite him just having a shoulder.
Thank you for this! I have made the mistake before of teaching people to throw hooks that way, then realizing that I throw it differently. Never been able to articulate it like this!
Oh this'll make a difference for me. I've been adding a slight drop to my cross for some time now but haven't done it to my lead hook. Excited to try this out.
Bro punched the fly the exact same way he explained not too punch in the beggining lmfao. Watch it again. silly goose.
I think this works better for more experienced people than a brand new learner. Someone learning will struggle and learn looping hooks. The way they teach you isn’t supposed to be fluid, it’s so that you learn the roatation and to keep the hook short. Most other physical activities are treated the same, over-exaggerated form while learning. Then as you fully learn you can start what you are saying or other methods.
Yup great advice, at the end a good thing to remember is on long hooks make sure you’re “stirring the pot” that motion will help long hooks feel really good. On the inside hooks make sure thumb is up… creates a shit ton of power!!!
It’s nice to see that he stills makes videos to this day 👏
Bro just did exactly what he said not to do, I think he smokes crack smh
Thanks bro, love the everyday life explanation approach to it. Makes it so much easier to learn like that
Exactly how I teach it. Spot on
Perfecto my man 🥊🇬🇧💯
The fact that I’m like “ok just say Canelo man” and you did 😂
Bob will always get you with that right hand boiii
-Bob 😂
Bro , I’ve been training in martial arts for so many years and finally someone sees the same thing I’ve been saying about the the lead hooks thanks for posting this video bro keep up the good work Shane .
You’re that guy💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I like to square up my shoulders ever so slightly and momentarily,somewhat feining a right hand,then snapping round the left hook. Do you think that becomes too obvious really quick? Even if sometimes i do throw the right hand or the reverse left straight or a left liver shot. So there is variety. But thats the only way the hook feels comfortable and powerful.
This is why I love martial arts. Its really art. Everyone learns almost the same basics and develop their styles from that, until the point where the same punches look completely different
Bob is gonna hit us with that right hand and the fall😂
Bro there many different techniques to throwing a hook and each of them is used for different ranges 💀
Yeah. There is a lot of formality bullshit taught in martial arts classes. What works optimally depends on size and body shapes of the combatants.
Okay, so I could've been a pro boxer with terrible defense, but I'm barely 207 lbs and just a tad under 6'0. My coaches taught it a little differently but my Kenpo background caused me to train the open hand palm strike a lot. It ended up like you just taught, and I could knock anyone out with my lead hook. It's so beautiful that you teach this as I always felt like I was doing my hook wrong! Turns out it was right all along! Thank you coach!
I started my boxing career 7 years ago in my garage and your video. My biggest takeaway when teaching the cross and lead hook is the shift of weight from you front leg to your rear
from what I understand is that the weight during the a mid range hook is placed more on the back foot, thus center of the pivot is felt around the back hip. If the weight is on the front foot during the movement, you are likely prone to absorbing more force, dangerous. Further more, that it's nice to extend the hook during the end of the pivot at mid range, to reduce the risk of the straight, this also results in a whip effect. The pivot of the front foot, with less weight on it when done as shown, is only the result of the pivot and weight closer to the back foot and hip. Just my humble perspective.
Great advice 👍
This a good video. You can tell he had fight experience.
Perfect explanation thanks
How many world titles do you have man bun?
Bro giving away all of the secrets 😂
Man it took me a solid 18 months to learn this. I listened to people tell me exactly what shane said, pivot front foot and 90 degree bend always
Bruh 😂😂😂 he just started yesterday 😂
Shane: Bob's gonna hit us with that right hand.
Bob: I got no arms. 😅😅😅