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Funny thing that Yukari haters harp on Yukari "not respecting the sacrifice of the MC" in the Answer...when in reality no one knew the cause of death for the MC nor knew that he sacrificed himself to save everyone...and only when Yukari knew about in near the end she truly understood the wrongs of her actions. That's what trend following gets you.
@Vagelis Douliakas What Ken said at that moment was just what he believed...that doesn't automatically confirms that's exactly what happened (I mean, we as the audience know because we saw it, but the characters still don't.)
@@Mavuika_GyaruAlready replied to that point before, Ken was only stating what he believed, none of them knew for sure what happened to the MC while inside Nyx.
I'll always have a soft spot for Yukari, trauma and depression will make u think irrationally, and I sympathize with her. It's realistic that they don't see things the same way. And Yukari isn't a push over, she doesn't give in to peer pressure - if everyone ganged up on Fuuka for example she would've probably just have let them silence her. Yukari needed the compassion that Mitsuru showed her, she needed someone who genuinly cared for her to help her come to the realization. It's believable
A youtuber said not so long ago this, and I totally agree with it: "Yukari is heavily frustrating, but she's the one character that you can relate to because most of us acted like her whenever we were her age. She'll grow up, but like... She is relatable, even if it's unlikable."
I really don't understand why people expected her to behave rationally. The person who finally helped her find some form of closure revolving her father's death and her fractured relationship with her mother just died. Things were literally finally starting to look up for her, and then the MC dies. And then she is given the impression that she has a chance to undo that. If someone helped you through the grieving process of losing a parent, and then they died shortly after helping you, that would probably destroy you.
@@MaxusFox23 i can’t comprehend why ppl could dislike Yukari tho. Cuz nothing she’s done is even THAT bad. Especially when we compare to other fan fav characters.
@@ma.2089 what about what she could’ve done had Yukari won that pathetic of excuse of a ‘tournament’? The whole world would’ve ended just for her greediness to just see him once again and most definitely stopped him before MC having the chance to save the world. Mitsuru is even worse for enabling her and go along with that nasty behavior towards the whole situation from Yukari. Pea brained Akihiko and the brat didn’t help either. Fuuka and Aigis were indecisive and hesitant. Junpei was the only levelheaded character out of all of them. At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much do you like Yukari and if you sympathized with her during her grief. I don’t like her, so I didn’t. This “Yukari” Episode was a gift for her fans and a curse for people like me. It was such a terrible experience gameplay and plot alike for me.
I love the part where you said you think internet opinion culture has made it so that games can’t just be bad, I think that applies to the reverse as well, with games not just being great or good, they have to be hyped up as the best game in the genre and called one of the best games ever made and shutting aside all constructive criticisms, I think that conversations around video game criticism has become extremely toxic.
This immediately made me think of both ocarina of time and Chrono Trigger. Both games have fans that swear they're the greatest of all time, and refuse to acknowledge that both have multiple flaws. There is no such thing as a perfect game. Never has been, never will be.
I have seen many people not understand what her story was about or misunderstand what The Answer actually is. The Answer is a story about grief and Yukari is literally one of the most important characters of that narrative. Because she is the one who is actually hurting the most in that narrative. Yukari is in pain, serious, profound pain and it is not unjustified. Somebody she loved died and she doesn't know what to do with that. The story of The Answer is about dealing with grief and all the characters have different perspectives on it. Because clearly all of them cared about the protagonist, but everybody is in a different head space during the story. And Yukari is the one in the most humane space. She is deeply and badly hurting that she lost a loved one. Aegis is also like that, but she ended disconecting of her feelings, while Yukari can barely control hers. The fights in The Answer with the party members are more a way to grieve in group than a battle to the death or anything. Everybody is grieving and fighting is literally all they can do with the grief. That is why "Heartful cry" is such a good song for the fights. And Yukari is the central character of the grief narrative, because she is the one grieving the most. She is being irrational and lost, yeah. Somebody she loved DIED. It honestly the most humane response. She is being irrational, but for good reasons. And that is the saving grace of that story. Because the grief narrative is the literal basis of The Answer and the reason the story is actually happening. And Yukari's arc is the literal climax of that story, at the end of the fight with Aegis. It is actually the reason The Answer actually works as a story.
I think ppl also harp on Yukari being aggressive for no reason. Junpei and Akihiko do the same thing, and they’re given much much more leeway. In the answer itself, Yukari was very unsure about her feelings when they had the discussion about the keys. It was Akihiko who started insulting her and made her respond angrily. Akihiko and Yukari are on different sides, with the same level of aggression and stubbornness. Ppl just don’t like ppl who become angry in grief, especially women.
@@MonochromeRaptor People really forget even her reason to go through the entire thing was even in the main story (Ive sadly seen someone's P3R Playthrough and just outright hates yukari cause of her behavior and the slap to the MC, stupid reasons. Then in yakushima instead of being understanding he literally goes the "okay go away forever now" route...) Yet when Junpei gets annoying AF with his envious jealousy over being tje "big boi leader" nobody bats an eye. (I like both characters, each deals with their stuff).
i find yukari to be the most layered and well-written character in persona 3. she’s been through a lot her entire life, the death of her father and basically being the emotional rock of her grieving mother, while maintaining the facade of a seemingly normal high school student honestly a lot of it boils down to the demographic. a part of the playerbase can’t fathom mature storytelling and/or accurate portrayals of grief and just women in general (let’s be real most mega weebs have incel tendencies). they just want their “waifus” to not be “ruined” by story beats that are thematically in line with what the game is trying to say
I know it's silly, but I decided to stop using the answer outside of puns cause I feel the same way. Episode Aigis is just... I dunno, straight-forward? That's not quite it, but it's the closest I can think of atm.
I personally found The Answer to be great in terms of the story and characterization. I heard a lot of shit about The Answer, but in spite of that I ended up enjoying it. My biggest issue with The Answer is all gameplay related. There was no good reason to get rid of the compendium for example, sure you can counteract the lack of a compendium, but that does not mean it was a good idea to get rid of it. The dungeon crawling is another example, although this game does dungeon crawling just fine, that's all it is: just fine/10. The social sim aspect was needed in-between the dungeon crawling for me to fall in love this game. For The Answer its general structure is tell a bit of the story, then you dungeon crawl, then it tells a bit more of the story, then you dungeon crawl again, and it's just that over and over until you get to the final boss; it gets old and I only held out because I was enjoying the story. With that said Persona 3 FES' unmodded battle system does slap, and I'm glad that you give it the respect that it deserves.
yukari haters be like "i hate when the traumatized girl who has trouble getting close to people acts like a traumatized girl who has trouble getting close to people"
I'm pretty sure what the characters in the flashback scene about Mitsuru's past are talking about by her 'natural potential' is that while her power was indeed forced upon her and she was forced to learn how to control it, this is how she managed to learn how to control it the natural way, as if she was born with her power when she found her will to fight, which is to protect her father.
Ok just finished the whole video but yeah the whole beef was forced for sure but for me it made me appreciate yukari's character a lot. We dont usually get to see the ugly selfish of a person, and you know shes wrong but you can (well i did) empathize with her. And literally when mitsuru stood by her post battle, i straight up was ugly crying
And speaking of Yukari, I think that a lot of people forget we aren't neither holy saints nor robots that always base our thoughts and actions by logic, we are *humans* , and as such, not only we are emotional beings by nature, but also the embodiment of imperfection. One of the reasons Yukari is one of my favorite characters ever is because she's the example of a flawed character done right. The most humane character in the series without any room of doubt. PD: The Answer >>>>>>> Third Semester
She isn't though,I think this spot goes to Katsuya from p2 ep. The biggest reason for me is because even though he tried to act with decency most of the time he at points hated his father and younger brother thinking they were responsible for his dreams not being able to become reality,to the point when he was taunted by his shadow he pointed a gun at his brother for a moment. Also despite being a very honest cop he at many points turned his head and played blind letting some out of the law things to take place because he let his emotions talk louder than reason when he felt anger. His shadow also said he felt jealous of his brother because he loved Maya. And despite of all that he admited he felt that way. There's nothing more humane to me than someone who despite trying to be good can't really be like that 100%of the time.
She’s a teenager guys she misses her boyfriend she would have ended the world just to be with him it’s true love not some romance in high school she did it to be with him no matter what she understood and accepted her death and die on his arms which i think is sweet and she’s like her mother crying for help and yukari did the right thing she let go and helped her mom and moved on but remember him forever
Yeah, I think what bothered people a lot was the 1-2 combination of Yukari not being waifubait and her English VA making her enraged to the point of being OOC. It's a damn shame because she's a complete character that stands out as a shining example of good characterization in a series that is otherwise filled with clichés on the writing front. Easily my favourite character alongside Aigis.
Complex and unusual doesn't equal good. The game never calls out Yukari for being a hypocrite when she attacks other people for what she also does. She literally mocks junpei about being scared while they're waiting for their inevitable death from nyx and for MOURNING HIS GIRLFRIEND after her supposed character development . Her sl is her not empathizing at all with her mom for years and failing to understand that she isn't the only one that feels bad. She slaps mitsuru when she's mourning and tells her to get her shit together while she never did. And the answer has her disregarding what other people feel once more risking the entire fucking world. Her circumstances don't justify her actions and the game should say that outloud instead of letting her go on so many things. Yukari is pretty much the beta Chloe from life is strange, an unempathic ass that only thinks about herself and fails to see what everyone else thinks unless it's regarding herself (her attempts at being the stereotypical popular girl to get attention), and that ends up being on one side of a world/city ending tradeoff. I gladly let Chloe die because she was never acknowledged as bad and kept blaming max for everything, getting angry even if she just talked to someone else on the phone for a second, and started romancing her to manipulate her better. All that connects her to max and "justifies" her being a bitch is her backstory. But that's not how it works. You can be pitied but not excused of your faults due to circumstances. Yukari is perfect for makoto tho, the guy that gives the worst advice to everyone and fucks every single girl to then sacrifice himself and avoid responsibility in some school days type shit. Yukari is just a shitty asuka.
@UChxrnrsCRRUWfv3r09cgjoA she is literally an asuka ripoff are you fucking stupid to say she isn't a cliché? She is the redhead tsundere with mommy issues that has an odd relationship with the headphones wearing emo boy (and the boy meets kaworu with scarf). P3 is half eva ripoff, 25% shitty barely explained writing and 25% good. Aigis your favorite character? The rei clone with the personality of a loaf of bread that has nothing but "I like mc and become human" to her? There's so many better robots in anime, she's robotic in comparison to OTHER ROBOTS!
I feel like the thing about The Answer Yukari is, that game more or less expects you to take as Protagonist having her SL maxed out. So it would make sense for Yukari to have such strong feelings towards him, it also makes sense that when you have strong and passionate emotions, you sometimes don't want to listen to reason, you just want to follow those emotions, flawed as they may be. Yukari probably feels like if they do go back, there might be a way to save him. If we go with her SL being maxed, it makes sense for her to be like that, if any of us could go back in time and get to fix something that took our dear one, a lot of would probably be willing to take the risk, even if it was to see them just one more time. I actually believe what they did with Yukari was exactly what her character needed. For her to finally have her closure and not cling to regret of losing protag.
AS someone who experienced both P3's main campaign and The Answer for the first time pretty recently (via youtube, I don't have the means to play it myself yet), I honestly cannot imagine Persona 3 *without* The Answer. It felt like a necessary epilogue or final chapter, and it highlights once more how everyone dealñs and copes with death and grieving differently, especially for someone close to them. This isn't the same case as with Shinjiro; everyone from the main party had a close relationship with the protagonist, with Shinjiro, most only got to know him semi-properly for like a month at best?? while the ones truly affected by his death were Akihiko, Mitsuru (more or less) and even Ken. With the protagonist, they all got to know him for over a year, they shared the same living space, they hung out together, they did the SEES thing... It's just not the same. And how everyone reacted felt in character based on what we've seen of them in The Journey. Yukari in particular makes the most sense to me. I wonder if those who dogpile on her remember that she had to recontextualize her father's death 3 TIMES!!! That's not healthy in the slightest, having to re-frame what you knew before and start a new process of grieving. And with the Protag's death being still fresh by the time of The Answer, no wonder she was first coping hard and not thinking about it, distancing herself from the otehrs bcs looking at them would remind her of the past, but then reacted the way she did to having the choice of going back to the past. She was just not grieving properly and probably needed a reminder that she's not alone, that everyone else understand what she's feeling and that they're all in this together. To have Mitsuru be the one to reach out to her, eb enough for Yukari to break down crying, is also both perfect and beautiful. I heard a lot of negative things about The Answer and while I can't give a full analysis of the mode, as I cannot play it yet, storywise it got me to cry, something the main campaign didn't manage to do.
Personally from a character development side of things P3 and The Answer are masterpieces when you are able to piece things together like how in the base game yukari was carrying emotional trauma but when minato came along he was able to get her to open up her feelings, get her back on good terms with her mom and got her to fall in love with him. But when he died instead of facing the pain head on she tries to put a mask to hide that emotional trauma and only wanted to see him again by going back in time to before they fought nyx which would endanger the world. After she realised that Aigis was the only one to use the Key all that emotional trauma consumed her. It's kind of an inverse of Aigis where with Aigis she wanted to got back to being a machine as minato was the only thing that drove her to become more human than machine but yukari put on a mask and decided it was best to blame everyone. It kinda shows that we as humans aren't perfect. It's not perfect but to me it just feels right. In a series full of clichés story arcs like this stand out and it isn't necessarily a bad thing
Firstly, feels so nice to hear someone else mention how they didn't quite think that the MC died at the end of 3, I was so shocked that he had died when I started the answer after picking up FES~ Secondly, I love the comparison with the argument in P3 and in P1 with Mark and Nanjo, really apt comparison Great video :D
You and op make that the only 2 people I know that felt the same as me! I had no clue he was dead until I played The Answer! And I was just like, "My dude's so tired."
The Biggest issue I had with this "expansion". Was that all my hard work leveling up my party members. Ended completely ignored with a throwaway line. 'Ohh I've been trained in a while, so I'm a little rusty.'
@@planetbumble5060 You'd be surprised. Muscle memory is a thing but there's a reason why athletes go to practice first a couple times instead of jumping right into an actual game when coming back from an injury.
When looking at The Answer now, I think the single biggest problem isn't necessarily the characterization, but rather the stakes. The reason everyone hates The Answer's Yukari is due to her irrationality in the face of such potentially drastic consequences is the primary reason why. Not only that, but the fact is, they didn't know what caused his death. Ken's theory is that he sacrificed himself (which is what happened), but even then, they still should've tried finding out why he died before they went back to discuss. If you're wondering how they would've known, they could either ask Metis or have Aigis pull it out of her ass like she does in the final game. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, have a nice day.
Not to mention, she didn't hesitate to do the battles and grab the key by force even if it meant that she will probably take Aigis' life. Like the group lost two members and she wants to take one more!?
What I got from Persona 3 in its entirety is that it's a story about dealing with loss. All the Persona users have/were going to lose someone close to them in the game, then awakened to their ultimate persona after they "proved" that they could deal with that very loss. Mitsuru lost her dad and awakened Artemisia, Akihiko lost Shinji and awakened Caesar, Yukari got closure on her dad and awakened Isis, Fuuka's friend Natsuki moved out and she awakened Juno. The point of the Answer is to test their ability to cope with another loss, this time the loss of someone extremely close to _all_ of them. When this occurred, _all_ our team members had to cope with that grief _again,_ and every one of them had to rethink how they cope with grief and loss when the person who died was one of the people who helped them the first time around.
It's nice when you find someone who takes a level headed, deeper than surface level look at something instead of just defaulting to "Thing Bad, Make No Sense, Me Smarter Than This". Great video. :)
metis is cute and cool and i believe she deserved better treatment from atlus, why didnt atlus include her in p3 dancing? why wasnt she featured in the persona 25th anniversary merch and promotional art?
I used Metis in all battles because I knew what was coming at the end. She's an awesome party member to have around and though she plays the clingy sister role sometimes, it's when she and Aigis have that conversation after Koro and Junpei's battle that really cemented her as an endearing character and she helped Aigis with her answer which was more valuable than anything else she had done for her before. I love her.
With the seeds planted by P4 Arena and P4 Margaret Boss Fight alone (Though I personally think the Answer ties into this and planted some seeds as well), it does seem ATLUS may bring Makoto back one day. And honestly, I am personally fine with it, as it would be great for Elizabeth's story (And honestly, part of me does want Makoto to see Aigis and the others again). I am really glad that you brought up the point that at the end of the day, nothing will change what Persona 3 itself is. The messages presented in the game will forever be part of it's experience and it will live on forever. One thing a lot of people forget is the fact that the spinoffs/crossovers are just expansions of the main games. While canon, they are not meant to be the main experience. I look at it like the mainline Persona games are the original 6 Star Wars films, while everything else is the Expanded Universe (This example is going off of the Legends continuity). Who knows, maybe I am crazy. Regardless, I am glad you defended the good parts of the Answer. It definitely is not perfect, but the amount of good stuff in it that is ignored can be frustrating. You have definitely earned a sub. Thank you
My only issue was that not much really happened until like, the end. Some of the bosses had stuff that caught me off guard too, sometimes they just felt impossible, but I guess that just means it felt good to finally beat them. Still really liked the story overall though. It's a good experience if you're willing to tough out some of the crazier boss stuff.
This is easily the best video I've ever seen on The Answer/Episode Aegis. I agree so much with the takes in this video and think the Answer is highly underrated and far from ruins the base game. I like to enjoy it as it's own entity and think it's beautiful as it's own chapter of the saga. Music is really good too, It's neat to see a voiced protagonist for a change (even if it's not my preference), and I adore Aegis, so more of her is always awesome. Don't let people influence how you feel about these games, there's so much hate for every game in this series depending on where you look. In my opinion they are all beautiful games and all some of my favorites. Come to your own conclusions, don't let people stop you from enjoying something you might otherwise love!
I liked The Answer. Not the fact that's its separate and it starts from scratch and hard but the story itself. Aigis being the center and the team getting some closure was nice for me. I do not think it ruined it at all. I do not think it undermines anything. I finished P3 Portable not long ago and then moved on to The Answer. Gonna replay the female protag then try FES to compare. I've played 4G and 5R and something about 3 just resonates with me. I want an HD remaster that combines stuff from Portable and FES. I do prefer the direct commands in 3p. I agree I would like to see a bad end
The Answer is, in my opinion, the most impactful Persona re-release addition up 'till now. Accepting that your own life will end -the Journey's main message, is easier than accepting that other's lives will also end, sometimes without any apparent reasoning -The Answer's main message. I think that it's a perfect continuation, story-wise, to that of the Journey.
I actually like the Answer people cry about the characters being dicks/selfish but wouldn't that make sense since you know they're dealing with grief?!
I have played the journey both in FES and Portable around 4 times. Only last week did I finally give the answer a try because of all the negative things i heard online and finding other games to enjoy. Really glad I did.
Yess finally a review that doesn't completely despise the Answer! P3 FES was my first persona game back in middle school, and I happened to have been struggling with TW: suic**al thoughts at that time. The message in the Answer especially was extremely profound for me and helped a lot to get me through those dark times. Brand New Days is still my ringtone when it's not on silent lol
Now, I’m barely into the answer at all, and it’s hell playing it, I took a 4 month break from the game and it’s feeling a bit easier but it is hell. I will say I am loving the story so far
1/29, everyone together playing in the Shrine is one of the few reasons I think FES is better than Portable. It's impossible to show this scene there, they never drawn every cutscene as CGs for the Portable, you can only read what is happening, and it's not as fun as watching what is happening.
Most of The Answer's haters were just trend followers that weren't called out on their bullshit when the iron was hot....so most of the complaints being regurgurated became "facts" when it reality most of them begun with one whiner misunderstanding the story and characters and people just hopping onto the bandwagon. When you see people recite the same tired arguments word for word you know most of their information are second hand.
@@bubbletea_ It's kinda the same with Mitsuru's Marin Karin meme...It started with a bunch of whiners not understanding the game mechanics and not knowing you can easily control Mitsuru's AI behavour with a simple change in commands...and it spread like wild fire among people. Honestly, I'd suggest you make a video about the Marin Karin meme and how ridiculous it is XP
@@Miyakolover it's so messed up how most people don't like the tactics just because of the Marin Karin meme. The tactics are great and it's not gonna kill you for no reason.
@@Enzed_ The problem is we have alot of "gamers" in the gaming community as opposed to actual gamers....basically people that "game" through watching playthroughs than actually playing the games themselves. So most of their information are second hand knowledge and they want to look like actual gamers, so they just try to keep up with trends and memes just to look knowledgable on a certain game. The whole Mitsuru Marin Karin thing is one of those things that got blown out of proportions and people think Persona 3 has "bad AI" when in reality it was more like the ineptness of some people not understanding the tactics system and how to control your party...but instead of getting called out on in by gamers..."gamers" helped popularizing that meme.
I personally don't have a problem with the answer in terms of its messages and what it tries to deal the only thing I don't like is how hard and grindy is because not everyone has that kind of time or patience if it had difficulty settings and played a little more like how persona 3 portable in terms of Combat in the options it might be better
Thank you for properly covering the answer and it’s brilliant story and mechanics BubbleTea. Personally I think the game is for those who loved P3 and to see disregarded for such asinine reasons is genuinely heartbreaking. And it’s even worse to me that Reload doesn’t pay honour to that legacy.
All I want to know is if Elizabeth was successful with freeing his soul. Hopefully in the next persona (Not persona 3 reload) they give us some answers or something
I find it funny how most people who love The Answer are also people who bear how bad it was. So thank you to the people who didn't like Persona 3: The Answer. You helped me love it. It's flawed but it strengthens Persona 3's main story and gives us closer for those the main character left behind
Yukari takeba really liked the protagonist and I'm pretty sure she mentions that the protagonist made a promise to go with her to see her family or its probably a social link thing
Now this, is an opinion, that I can agree with. Nicely done with your arguments. To me, the battles in The Answer / Episode Aegis, were some of my favorites in the Persona series as a whole.
I like your video for backing up your points, and giving good reasons. That being said, I strongly disagree the Answer is good. The game starts you off with a emo edgy teenager who doesn't care about living, but over time, learns that there's more to life than just being born and then dying. You have experiences and challenges along the way and have memories than define who you are and what you leave behind. When the protagonist realizes this, and after being a good friend to those around him, he realizes he has to sacrifice himself to save everyone. The point of the main game was that life is fragile, but worth protecting for the memories and people that are affected by you. Having the character face literal death, only to just be a door lock doesn't support the game that life is fragile, and at the end of the day everyone has a happy ending. That's not how life is, and tragic and bad stuff can happen along with happy and memorable moments. Aigis's whole character was that even a machine can learn to appreciate life, because life is beautiful, and not everyone can have it. I understand you like the Answer, and I'm not telling you to change it. For me personally, as someone who had an older brother die from brain cancer a couple of years back who barely got to see his daughter born, having the ending be "He's not dead but guarding everyone." is a half ass ending on what death is. Death was a major part of the story, and I think the protagonist to die only to reveal he was a door lock doesn't fit the theme of death in the game. That being said, thank you for going in depth with your video and pointing out your reasons
@@redhood7778 "The game starts you off with a emo edgy teenager who doesn't care about living, but over time, learns that there's more to life than just being born and then dying" That's the anime, not the game. in the game the protagonist is a blank slate whose personality is dependant on you. If anything, direct tie-in material paints him as a much more light-hearted, while still dismissive, character. The anime is what went ham-wire and made him into "an emo edgy teenager"
@@redhood7778 Ok, cool. his design being edgy doesn't mean anything about his character, which is my whole point. The character you described is the one in the anime, not in the game
Eah, The Answer truly is Misunderstood. If people yearn for death, it means that life is evil, not death. If the world is evil, we should not grieve its ending. There is no reason to assume that the protagonist wanted to die. There was no option to continue living for him. He chose to protect people that he cared about from immediate danger. But in the Answer those people did have a choice. They were strong enough to beat Erebus every time he raised his ugly heads. But they chose not to because it was more convenient for them. They condemned their savior for eternal torture. Don’t you think that the final death for him would be merciful? But we cannot have mercy in our evil world, can we.
My main problem with Episode Aigis is that it’s best experienced with The Journey still fairly fresh in your mind. Playing it after taking a break from P3FES for a while didn’t help me, but playing it again right after New Game Plus made it really feel like an answer. It still has it’s flaws but playing it after a break felt like trying to watch season 2 of a story-driven TV show after forgetting what happened in season 1.
FINALLY, someone i feel enjoyed the gameplay as much as i did. The Answer boss fights are so much fun, honestly. The need to strategize is more present in 30 hours here than along the 130 hours it took me to beat The Journey, and it made The Answer's combat so much fun.
The Answer has some cool parts, like fighting against Shadow Protagonist and the past of all the characters. I think the message is to take the lessons of the past to make a better future, and that's nice. On the other hand the "Civil War" part (motivations and the fact that Aigis has to battle everyone) is fucking bullcrap and Metis the most annoying character ever. Of course this is just an opinion told like an undisputed fact. If you liked the Answer, amazing, I wish I liked it.
30:36 - Idk, but to me it doesn't sound like it's necessarily a contradiction. They had their "potencial" given to them, but Mitsuru had natural potencial to use that "potencial" she was given... But idk
As someone who started playing Perona games, currently playing P3P on the vita. I check thinking of playing the answer but have no good emulator to play, so thanks for this video of explaining the parts of The Answer. I may or not give it a go in the future, unless I need save data to transfer to the answer story mode to make things easier-ish.
This reminds me how P4 ultimax shows Elizabeth is saving the world every few yrs and SEES don't even kinda don't and do like that plot point. Since I like Elizabeth trying to saving P3 protagonist is kinda neat
I know people will give me hate for that,but I enjoyed the answer more than the regular story because it went straight to the point,no social links. Maybe because I played persona 2 eternal punishment first before playing P3 and the answer is kinda in the same style.
@@ratedjoke2306 I enjoyed collecting cards and contacting demons way more than being forced to listened to people I don't give a shit because of the social links ultimate persona. Seriously,some where insuferable. Moon,emperor and magician comes to mind. I like grinding,feeling powerful and have all my people be at high level to explore their full potential. So exploring tartarus in 3 and tv world in 4 was way more enjoyable for me than the other 90% of the game. The answer was amazing for me for that reason. Not getting tired after exploring the abyss,hard battles,amazing soundtrack and that moment when the team splits and it all becomes like a battle royale really sold me it all. If you wanna call garbage something I'm playing since its release fine,it's your opinion. But I have the same right of calling out the dating sim aspects of the newer games.
Tbh i think i have an explanation why erebus might be intentionally easy Because the whole team now have their answers they get over the protagonists death and can defeat their erebus very easily (or you just farmed too luch lol)
The Answer *is* more difficult than The Journey. That's not the problem. The problem is it's annoying and not fun unless you already know the right setups.
in persona 3 fes, i chose to let nyx win when it came to making that choice. better to go out without fear, then wait for a fight i dont know if i could win.
Considering Metis vanishing following the revelation of who she is, I’m surprised that she’s really never been seen since. Besides a costume in Arena and Dancing All Night, I don’t think she’s ever been seen again, and it’s kind of disappointing.
The problem is, that it is unecessary I never played it, but I know the story, bestgirl Yukari wants to save my azz. I knew she was loyal. All the other posers and fake friends prefer to let me die
11:33 I used koromaru ken and metis and never any other cuz my god Koromaru carried me with crits and metis orgia mode abuse I enjoyed answer bosses more than journey bosses
Yeah, I can never understand the hatred towards this. They need proper context to fully understand what exactly happens in The Answer and to get into it. And yet, they never bother to learn and get the memo. This is pretty much the case of Teen Titans Go style fanboy rage where they're angry because 'the characters aren't acting like they did in the orignal' or that 'it ruins the orignal'. What, do they actually expect the characters to act the same as they are in the orignal storyline, even in an epilogue chapter taking place after the orignal story ended when the main character of that had died and they themselves weren't aware of it until it happened?! I just don't understand this either and it really does seem ridiculous. I also see this sorta fanboy rage with Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children and it's the same scenario here. In fact, you can actually see plot similarities between Advent Children and The Answer and both had gathered the same mixed reactions, most of it being that they hate it. Hopefully, this video will serve as a way for them to look back on it and wonder if it really was as bad as they thought it was and maybe give it another look. But if they still don't like it, that's fine, I can see why. With that out, I really hope they bring this back for the P3 remake, most likely as a DLC add-on and hopefully, they have a version of The Answer for the female protagonist introduced into Persona 3 Portable and use that to finally give out answers to the questions about the FeMC timeline that are yet to be answered (No pun intended).
I like the story in P3 both The Journey and The Answer, but anyone else feel the ending is cheapened a little by the next Persona games? "Like cool you sealed away O N E god that would bring about the end of humanity. Too bad there is a whole cavalcade of other gods Philemon and Nyarlathotep can bet on. Sucks that you just happened to get the one that couldn't be killed or reasoned with after you kicked their asses(?). The other doods got to live."
I have a friend that thinks persona 3 is the worst out of 3 4 and 5 and heavily disagrees with me that it's my favorite of the 3 but we agree to disagree. It's okay to have differing opinions lol
I never once hated the answer but them removing the compendium really was a turn off its not that i hate grinding its just too grindy for my taste so instead i just watched from youtube on how plays out sure it wasnt satisfying since you werent playing it but still enough for me really wish they will do a remake on persona 3 and combine both FES and Portable
I think my biggest problem with the anser is it making too explicit all of the implied things in the main game.The message and the ending were beautiful, and didn't need further elaboration. It makes it all feel a bit cheap imo.
I had seen a thumbnail saying how the answer ruined the main stories game, but instead of watching the video I played the game. I thought about how people tell you whats worth your time, but I thought i wont know unless i take the journey myself. After i finished the game I had watched that video and mostly disagreed with it. Then i found yours which i thought a similar view to how i felt about it. Thanks for the video.
The answer had a lot of potential and I liked the story stuff but it was not fun to play. No social link stuff or compendium makes the game feel bare bones which I did not like. I also don’t care much for aigis either
Bro...? Did you miss the entire first section of the game? After you awaken to your Persona, Yukari literally tells you that the reason why she joined SEES is to find out about the truth behind her father's death and how it's been haunting for the last 10 years. If there's a member in SEES that's never lost anyone it would be Fuuka as she's the only member that still has both her parents. I'm sorry about the tone of my comment, I'm just a bit confused with your statement.
i've always loved persona 3 answer though. But there's also the point that i never really had a good internet connection at the time so the internet's opinion not get to me.
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I actually like the answer
Funny thing that Yukari haters harp on Yukari "not respecting the sacrifice of the MC" in the Answer...when in reality no one knew the cause of death for the MC nor knew that he sacrificed himself to save everyone...and only when Yukari knew about in near the end she truly understood the wrongs of her actions.
That's what trend following gets you.
@Vagelis Douliakas What Ken said at that moment was just what he believed...that doesn't automatically confirms that's exactly what happened (I mean, we as the audience know because we saw it, but the characters still don't.)
@@Miyakolover Thank you for understanding.
Ken literally says that the MC sacrificed himself to save everyone BEFORE Yukari went ape shiz
@@Mavuika_GyaruAlready replied to that point before, Ken was only stating what he believed, none of them knew for sure what happened to the MC while inside Nyx.
@@Miyakolover if Ken can figure that out and Yukari can't then she's really dumb
I'll always have a soft spot for Yukari, trauma and depression will make u think irrationally, and I sympathize with her. It's realistic that they don't see things the same way. And Yukari isn't a push over, she doesn't give in to peer pressure - if everyone ganged up on Fuuka for example she would've probably just have let them silence her. Yukari needed the compassion that Mitsuru showed her, she needed someone who genuinly cared for her to help her come to the realization. It's believable
THANK YOU! Everyone is so quick to call out Yukari but nobody wants to call out the fact that Akihiko was acting like a complete ass.
A youtuber said not so long ago this, and I totally agree with it: "Yukari is heavily frustrating, but she's the one character that you can relate to because most of us acted like her whenever we were her age. She'll grow up, but like... She is relatable, even if it's unlikable."
I really don't understand why people expected her to behave rationally. The person who finally helped her find some form of closure revolving her father's death and her fractured relationship with her mother just died. Things were literally finally starting to look up for her, and then the MC dies. And then she is given the impression that she has a chance to undo that. If someone helped you through the grieving process of losing a parent, and then they died shortly after helping you, that would probably destroy you.
@@MaxusFox23 i can’t comprehend why ppl could dislike Yukari tho. Cuz nothing she’s done is even THAT bad. Especially when we compare to other fan fav characters.
@@ma.2089 what about what she could’ve done had Yukari won that pathetic of excuse of a ‘tournament’? The whole world would’ve ended just for her greediness to just see him once again and most definitely stopped him before MC having the chance to save the world. Mitsuru is even worse for enabling her and go along with that nasty behavior towards the whole situation from Yukari. Pea brained Akihiko and the brat didn’t help either. Fuuka and Aigis were indecisive and hesitant. Junpei was the only levelheaded character out of all of them. At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much do you like Yukari and if you sympathized with her during her grief. I don’t like her, so I didn’t. This “Yukari” Episode was a gift for her fans and a curse for people like me. It was such a terrible experience gameplay and plot alike for me.
I love the part where you said you think internet opinion culture has made it so that games can’t just be bad, I think that applies to the reverse as well, with games not just being great or good, they have to be hyped up as the best game in the genre and called one of the best games ever made and shutting aside all constructive criticisms, I think that conversations around video game criticism has become extremely toxic.
This immediately made me think of both ocarina of time and Chrono Trigger. Both games have fans that swear they're the greatest of all time, and refuse to acknowledge that both have multiple flaws. There is no such thing as a perfect game. Never has been, never will be.
@@kuraikusanagi7892 facts
I have seen many people not understand what her story was about or misunderstand what The Answer actually is.
The Answer is a story about grief and Yukari is literally one of the most important characters of that narrative.
Because she is the one who is actually hurting the most in that narrative.
Yukari is in pain, serious, profound pain and it is not unjustified.
Somebody she loved died and she doesn't know what to do with that.
The story of The Answer is about dealing with grief and all the characters have different perspectives on it. Because clearly all of them cared about the protagonist, but everybody is in a different head space during the story.
And Yukari is the one in the most humane space. She is deeply and badly hurting that she lost a loved one. Aegis is also like that, but she ended disconecting of her feelings, while Yukari can barely control hers.
The fights in The Answer with the party members are more a way to grieve in group than a battle to the death or anything. Everybody is grieving and fighting is literally all they can do with the grief. That is why "Heartful cry" is such a good song for the fights.
And Yukari is the central character of the grief narrative, because she is the one grieving the most. She is being irrational and lost, yeah. Somebody she loved DIED. It honestly the most humane response. She is being irrational, but for good reasons.
And that is the saving grace of that story. Because the grief narrative is the literal basis of The Answer and the reason the story is actually happening. And Yukari's arc is the literal climax of that story, at the end of the fight with Aegis.
It is actually the reason The Answer actually works as a story.
Dealing with loss and letting go of your past.
I think ppl also harp on Yukari being aggressive for no reason. Junpei and Akihiko do the same thing, and they’re given much much more leeway. In the answer itself, Yukari was very unsure about her feelings when they had the discussion about the keys. It was Akihiko who started insulting her and made her respond angrily. Akihiko and Yukari are on different sides, with the same level of aggression and stubbornness.
Ppl just don’t like ppl who become angry in grief, especially women.
The worse thing is that this isn't the first time Yukari dealt with losing a loved one
@@MonochromeRaptor People really forget even her reason to go through the entire thing was even in the main story (Ive sadly seen someone's P3R Playthrough and just outright hates yukari cause of her behavior and the slap to the MC, stupid reasons. Then in yakushima instead of being understanding he literally goes the "okay go away forever now" route...)
Yet when Junpei gets annoying AF with his envious jealousy over being tje "big boi leader" nobody bats an eye. (I like both characters, each deals with their stuff).
i find yukari to be the most layered and well-written character in persona 3. she’s been through a lot her entire life, the death of her father and basically being the emotional rock of her grieving mother, while maintaining the facade of a seemingly normal high school student
honestly a lot of it boils down to the demographic. a part of the playerbase can’t fathom mature storytelling and/or accurate portrayals of grief and just women in general (let’s be real most mega weebs have incel tendencies). they just want their “waifus” to not be “ruined” by story beats that are thematically in line with what the game is trying to say
Man episode aigis sounds way cooler than the Answer not gonna lie
i also thought riceballs were cooler than jelly-filled donuts, but that didn't stop pokemon.
Wtf is this episode metal from sonic 4
I know it's silly, but I decided to stop using the answer outside of puns cause I feel the same way. Episode Aigis is just... I dunno, straight-forward? That's not quite it, but it's the closest I can think of atm.
I guess, but The Answer makes too much sense as to why it's called that.
But is the answer the truth that’s the question
I personally found The Answer to be great in terms of the story and characterization. I heard a lot of shit about The Answer, but in spite of that I ended up enjoying it. My biggest issue with The Answer is all gameplay related. There was no good reason to get rid of the compendium for example, sure you can counteract the lack of a compendium, but that does not mean it was a good idea to get rid of it. The dungeon crawling is another example, although this game does dungeon crawling just fine, that's all it is: just fine/10. The social sim aspect was needed in-between the dungeon crawling for me to fall in love this game. For The Answer its general structure is tell a bit of the story, then you dungeon crawl, then it tells a bit more of the story, then you dungeon crawl again, and it's just that over and over until you get to the final boss; it gets old and I only held out because I was enjoying the story. With that said Persona 3 FES' unmodded battle system does slap, and I'm glad that you give it the respect that it deserves.
yukari haters be like "i hate when the traumatized girl who has trouble getting close to people acts like a traumatized girl who has trouble getting close to people"
I'm pretty sure what the characters in the flashback scene about Mitsuru's past are talking about by her 'natural potential' is that while her power was indeed forced upon her and she was forced to learn how to control it, this is how she managed to learn how to control it the natural way, as if she was born with her power when she found her will to fight, which is to protect her father.
I literally loved the answer so much bec as a teen who took the protags death personally, i too wanted to see them handle their grief and be happy
Ok just finished the whole video but yeah the whole beef was forced for sure but for me it made me appreciate yukari's character a lot. We dont usually get to see the ugly selfish of a person, and you know shes wrong but you can (well i did) empathize with her. And literally when mitsuru stood by her post battle, i straight up was ugly crying
@@kingdomheartsfangrl6 x2
And speaking of Yukari, I think that a lot of people forget we aren't neither holy saints nor robots that always base our thoughts and actions by logic, we are *humans* , and as such, not only we are emotional beings by nature, but also the embodiment of imperfection.
One of the reasons Yukari is one of my favorite characters ever is because she's the example of a flawed character done right. The most humane character in the series without any room of doubt.
PD: The Answer >>>>>>> Third Semester
She isn't though,I think this spot goes to Katsuya from p2 ep.
The biggest reason for me is because even though he tried to act with decency most of the time he at points hated his father and younger brother thinking they were responsible for his dreams not being able to become reality,to the point when he was taunted by his shadow he pointed a gun at his brother for a moment.
Also despite being a very honest cop he at many points turned his head and played blind letting some out of the law things to take place because he let his emotions talk louder than reason when he felt anger.
His shadow also said he felt jealous of his brother because he loved Maya.
And despite of all that he admited he felt that way.
There's nothing more humane to me than someone who despite trying to be good can't really be like that 100%of the time.
She’s a teenager guys she misses her boyfriend she would have ended the world just to be with him it’s true love not some romance in high school she did it to be with him no matter what she understood and accepted her death and die on his arms which i think is sweet and she’s like her mother crying for help and yukari did the right thing she let go and helped her mom and moved on but remember him forever
Yeah, I think what bothered people a lot was the 1-2 combination of Yukari not being waifubait and her English VA making her enraged to the point of being OOC. It's a damn shame because she's a complete character that stands out as a shining example of good characterization in a series that is otherwise filled with clichés on the writing front. Easily my favourite character alongside Aigis.
Complex and unusual doesn't equal good. The game never calls out Yukari for being a hypocrite when she attacks other people for what she also does. She literally mocks junpei about being scared while they're waiting for their inevitable death from nyx and for MOURNING HIS GIRLFRIEND after her supposed character development . Her sl is her not empathizing at all with her mom for years and failing to understand that she isn't the only one that feels bad. She slaps mitsuru when she's mourning and tells her to get her shit together while she never did. And the answer has her disregarding what other people feel once more risking the entire fucking world. Her circumstances don't justify her actions and the game should say that outloud instead of letting her go on so many things.
Yukari is pretty much the beta Chloe from life is strange, an unempathic ass that only thinks about herself and fails to see what everyone else thinks unless it's regarding herself (her attempts at being the stereotypical popular girl to get attention), and that ends up being on one side of a world/city ending tradeoff. I gladly let Chloe die because she was never acknowledged as bad and kept blaming max for everything, getting angry even if she just talked to someone else on the phone for a second, and started romancing her to manipulate her better. All that connects her to max and "justifies" her being a bitch is her backstory. But that's not how it works. You can be pitied but not excused of your faults due to circumstances. Yukari is perfect for makoto tho, the guy that gives the worst advice to everyone and fucks every single girl to then sacrifice himself and avoid responsibility in some school days type shit.
Yukari is just a shitty asuka.
@UChxrnrsCRRUWfv3r09cgjoA she is literally an asuka ripoff are you fucking stupid to say she isn't a cliché? She is the redhead tsundere with mommy issues that has an odd relationship with the headphones wearing emo boy (and the boy meets kaworu with scarf). P3 is half eva ripoff, 25% shitty barely explained writing and 25% good.
Aigis your favorite character? The rei clone with the personality of a loaf of bread that has nothing but "I like mc and become human" to her? There's so many better robots in anime, she's robotic in comparison to OTHER ROBOTS!
I feel like the thing about The Answer Yukari is, that game more or less expects you to take as Protagonist having her SL maxed out. So it would make sense for Yukari to have such strong feelings towards him, it also makes sense that when you have strong and passionate emotions, you sometimes don't want to listen to reason, you just want to follow those emotions, flawed as they may be.
Yukari probably feels like if they do go back, there might be a way to save him. If we go with her SL being maxed, it makes sense for her to be like that, if any of us could go back in time and get to fix something that took our dear one, a lot of would probably be willing to take the risk, even if it was to see them just one more time.
I actually believe what they did with Yukari was exactly what her character needed. For her to finally have her closure and not cling to regret of losing protag.
AS someone who experienced both P3's main campaign and The Answer for the first time pretty recently (via youtube, I don't have the means to play it myself yet), I honestly cannot imagine Persona 3 *without* The Answer. It felt like a necessary epilogue or final chapter, and it highlights once more how everyone dealñs and copes with death and grieving differently, especially for someone close to them. This isn't the same case as with Shinjiro; everyone from the main party had a close relationship with the protagonist, with Shinjiro, most only got to know him semi-properly for like a month at best?? while the ones truly affected by his death were Akihiko, Mitsuru (more or less) and even Ken. With the protagonist, they all got to know him for over a year, they shared the same living space, they hung out together, they did the SEES thing... It's just not the same.
And how everyone reacted felt in character based on what we've seen of them in The Journey. Yukari in particular makes the most sense to me. I wonder if those who dogpile on her remember that she had to recontextualize her father's death 3 TIMES!!! That's not healthy in the slightest, having to re-frame what you knew before and start a new process of grieving. And with the Protag's death being still fresh by the time of The Answer, no wonder she was first coping hard and not thinking about it, distancing herself from the otehrs bcs looking at them would remind her of the past, but then reacted the way she did to having the choice of going back to the past. She was just not grieving properly and probably needed a reminder that she's not alone, that everyone else understand what she's feeling and that they're all in this together. To have Mitsuru be the one to reach out to her, eb enough for Yukari to break down crying, is also both perfect and beautiful.
I heard a lot of negative things about The Answer and while I can't give a full analysis of the mode, as I cannot play it yet, storywise it got me to cry, something the main campaign didn't manage to do.
Personally from a character development side of things P3 and The Answer are masterpieces when you are able to piece things together like how in the base game yukari was carrying emotional trauma but when minato came along he was able to get her to open up her feelings, get her back on good terms with her mom and got her to fall in love with him. But when he died instead of facing the pain head on she tries to put a mask to hide that emotional trauma and only wanted to see him again by going back in time to before they fought nyx which would endanger the world. After she realised that Aigis was the only one to use the Key all that emotional trauma consumed her. It's kind of an inverse of Aigis where with Aigis she wanted to got back to being a machine as minato was the only thing that drove her to become more human than machine but yukari put on a mask and decided it was best to blame everyone. It kinda shows that we as humans aren't perfect. It's not perfect but to me it just feels right. In a series full of clichés story arcs like this stand out and it isn't necessarily a bad thing
Always nice to see someone who understands The Answer.
Firstly, feels so nice to hear someone else mention how they didn't quite think that the MC died at the end of 3, I was so shocked that he had died when I started the answer after picking up FES~
Secondly, I love the comparison with the argument in P3 and in P1 with Mark and Nanjo, really apt comparison
Great video :D
You and op make that the only 2 people I know that felt the same as me!
I had no clue he was dead until I played The Answer! And I was just like, "My dude's so tired."
@@taidakun_igIt was a long ass game~
He just needed a Nap
I cant even consider P3’s story concluded without the Answer.
Same lol
The Biggest issue I had with this "expansion". Was that all my hard work leveling up my party members. Ended completely ignored with a throwaway line. 'Ohh I've been trained in a while, so I'm a little rusty.'
Whole team forgot a years worth of training in am month
@@planetbumble5060 You'd be surprised. Muscle memory is a thing but there's a reason why athletes go to practice first a couple times instead of jumping right into an actual game when coming back from an injury.
When looking at The Answer now, I think the single biggest problem isn't necessarily the characterization, but rather the stakes. The reason everyone hates The Answer's Yukari is due to her irrationality in the face of such potentially drastic consequences is the primary reason why. Not only that, but the fact is, they didn't know what caused his death. Ken's theory is that he sacrificed himself (which is what happened), but even then, they still should've tried finding out why he died before they went back to discuss. If you're wondering how they would've known, they could either ask Metis or have Aigis pull it out of her ass like she does in the final game. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, have a nice day.
Not to mention, she didn't hesitate to do the battles and grab the key by force even if it meant that she will probably take Aigis' life. Like the group lost two members and she wants to take one more!?
WAIT HOW DO THE CUTSCENES LOOK SO GOOD THOUGH
I remastered them with A.I.
@@bubbletea_ so it's a post recording thing and not in the actual game?
@@LckD008 yea ofc
@@bubbletea_ Witchcraft!
Koromaru got mega buffed in P3P
he gets good damage, buffs, and is almost immortal.
His Mudo skills hit more than mines do on fes
Koromaru evasive goes vroooom
What I got from Persona 3 in its entirety is that it's a story about dealing with loss. All the Persona users have/were going to lose someone close to them in the game, then awakened to their ultimate persona after they "proved" that they could deal with that very loss. Mitsuru lost her dad and awakened Artemisia, Akihiko lost Shinji and awakened Caesar, Yukari got closure on her dad and awakened Isis, Fuuka's friend Natsuki moved out and she awakened Juno.
The point of the Answer is to test their ability to cope with another loss, this time the loss of someone extremely close to _all_ of them. When this occurred, _all_ our team members had to cope with that grief _again,_ and every one of them had to rethink how they cope with grief and loss when the person who died was one of the people who helped them the first time around.
It's nice when you find someone who takes a level headed, deeper than surface level look at something instead of just defaulting to "Thing Bad, Make No Sense, Me Smarter Than This". Great video. :)
Did not realise how well jitter doll fit with the answer's opening cutscene until now
Didn't read them all but not a single comment about Metis! Really! Am I the only one is like "I really liked her! She was cool."
metis is cute and cool and i believe she deserved better treatment from atlus, why didnt atlus include her in p3 dancing? why wasnt she featured in the persona 25th anniversary merch and promotional art?
She's alright. Labrys is better by a country mile though.
I used Metis in all battles because I knew what was coming at the end. She's an awesome party member to have around and though she plays the clingy sister role sometimes, it's when she and Aigis have that conversation after Koro and Junpei's battle that really cemented her as an endearing character and she helped Aigis with her answer which was more valuable than anything else she had done for her before. I love her.
With the seeds planted by P4 Arena and P4 Margaret Boss Fight alone (Though I personally think the Answer ties into this and planted some seeds as well), it does seem ATLUS may bring Makoto back one day. And honestly, I am personally fine with it, as it would be great for Elizabeth's story (And honestly, part of me does want Makoto to see Aigis and the others again). I am really glad that you brought up the point that at the end of the day, nothing will change what Persona 3 itself is. The messages presented in the game will forever be part of it's experience and it will live on forever. One thing a lot of people forget is the fact that the spinoffs/crossovers are just expansions of the main games. While canon, they are not meant to be the main experience. I look at it like the mainline Persona games are the original 6 Star Wars films, while everything else is the Expanded Universe (This example is going off of the Legends continuity). Who knows, maybe I am crazy. Regardless, I am glad you defended the good parts of the Answer. It definitely is not perfect, but the amount of good stuff in it that is ignored can be frustrating. You have definitely earned a sub. Thank you
or at the very least fight against the p3 team joining in with elizabeth to put the mc soul to rest but your team would proceed to stop them
My only issue was that not much really happened until like, the end. Some of the bosses had stuff that caught me off guard too, sometimes they just felt impossible, but I guess that just means it felt good to finally beat them. Still really liked the story overall though. It's a good experience if you're willing to tough out some of the crazier boss stuff.
This is easily the best video I've ever seen on The Answer/Episode Aegis. I agree so much with the takes in this video and think the Answer is highly underrated and far from ruins the base game. I like to enjoy it as it's own entity and think it's beautiful as it's own chapter of the saga. Music is really good too, It's neat to see a voiced protagonist for a change (even if it's not my preference), and I adore Aegis, so more of her is always awesome. Don't let people influence how you feel about these games, there's so much hate for every game in this series depending on where you look. In my opinion they are all beautiful games and all some of my favorites. Come to your own conclusions, don't let people stop you from enjoying something you might otherwise love!
Oh god it's back in September! Yukari has been getting so much praise now and it's gonna die all over again isn't it!? 😭
I liked The Answer. Not the fact that's its separate and it starts from scratch and hard but the story itself. Aigis being the center and the team getting some closure was nice for me. I do not think it ruined it at all. I do not think it undermines anything. I finished P3 Portable not long ago and then moved on to The Answer. Gonna replay the female protag then try FES to compare. I've played 4G and 5R and something about 3 just resonates with me. I want an HD remaster that combines stuff from Portable and FES. I do prefer the direct commands in 3p. I agree I would like to see a bad end
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I'm in no way an expert, but maybe the scientist was talking about Mitsuru's natural potential in wielding a persona?
I love your videos man, great writing and editing
thank you 🙏
The Answer is, in my opinion, the most impactful Persona re-release addition up 'till now. Accepting that your own life will end -the Journey's main message, is easier than accepting that other's lives will also end, sometimes without any apparent reasoning -The Answer's main message. I think that it's a perfect continuation, story-wise, to that of the Journey.
I actually like the Answer people cry about the characters being dicks/selfish but wouldn't that make sense since you know they're dealing with grief?!
I have played the journey both in FES and Portable around 4 times. Only last week did I finally give the answer a try because of all the negative things i heard online and finding other games to enjoy. Really glad I did.
This game is so polarizing it seems. I liked FES.
Yess finally a review that doesn't completely despise the Answer! P3 FES was my first persona game back in middle school, and I happened to have been struggling with TW: suic**al thoughts at that time. The message in the Answer especially was extremely profound for me and helped a lot to get me through those dark times. Brand New Days is still my ringtone when it's not on silent lol
Now, I’m barely into the answer at all, and it’s hell playing it, I took a 4 month break from the game and it’s feeling a bit easier but it is hell. I will say I am loving the story so far
1/29, everyone together playing in the Shrine is one of the few reasons I think FES is better than Portable. It's impossible to show this scene there, they never drawn every cutscene as CGs for the Portable, you can only read what is happening, and it's not as fun as watching what is happening.
my initial thoughts on persona 3 were really harsh upon first playing so much so i didn't bother playing the answer. this is making me reconsider
I liked the answer it has some good character development
Most of The Answer's haters were just trend followers that weren't called out on their bullshit when the iron was hot....so most of the complaints being regurgurated became "facts" when it reality most of them begun with one whiner misunderstanding the story and characters and people just hopping onto the bandwagon.
When you see people recite the same tired arguments word for word you know most of their information are second hand.
based take
@@bubbletea_ It's kinda the same with Mitsuru's Marin Karin meme...It started with a bunch of whiners not understanding the game mechanics and not knowing you can easily control Mitsuru's AI behavour with a simple change in commands...and it spread like wild fire among people.
Honestly, I'd suggest you make a video about the Marin Karin meme and how ridiculous it is XP
@@Miyakolover it's so messed up how most people don't like the tactics just because of the Marin Karin meme. The tactics are great and it's not gonna kill you for no reason.
@@Enzed_ The problem is we have alot of "gamers" in the gaming community as opposed to actual gamers....basically people that "game" through watching playthroughs than actually playing the games themselves.
So most of their information are second hand knowledge and they want to look like actual gamers, so they just try to keep up with trends and memes just to look knowledgable on a certain game.
The whole Mitsuru Marin Karin thing is one of those things that got blown out of proportions and people think Persona 3 has "bad AI" when in reality it was more like the ineptness of some people not understanding the tactics system and how to control your party...but instead of getting called out on in by gamers..."gamers" helped popularizing that meme.
Writing in answer sucks donkey ass even by low standards set up by persona 3
I personally don't have a problem with the answer in terms of its messages and what it tries to deal
the only thing I don't like is how hard and grindy is because not everyone has that kind of time or patience
if it had difficulty settings and played a little more like how persona 3 portable in terms of Combat in the options it might be better
Thank you for properly covering the answer and it’s brilliant story and mechanics BubbleTea. Personally I think the game is for those who loved P3 and to see disregarded for such asinine reasons is genuinely heartbreaking. And it’s even worse to me that Reload doesn’t pay honour to that legacy.
_>Reload doesn't pay honour to that legacy._
We'll see about that, come September 2024 or so...
9:18 that yukari sprite got me feelin some type of way
All I want to know is if Elizabeth was successful with freeing his soul. Hopefully in the next persona (Not persona 3 reload) they give us some answers or something
In P5A there will be some clue. Soon, this year.
I find it funny how most people who love The Answer are also people who bear how bad it was. So thank you to the people who didn't like Persona 3: The Answer. You helped me love it. It's flawed but it strengthens Persona 3's main story and gives us closer for those the main character left behind
Man what a great video and a great channel, I hope your channel blows up
Yukari takeba really liked the protagonist and I'm pretty sure she mentions that the protagonist made a promise to go with her to see her family or its probably a social link thing
Social Link
Great video man, but you made a joke at Persona 4's expense so CRINGE!
I make fun of it a lot, but I like Persona 4. I'll make a video on that too some day.
Now this, is an opinion, that I can agree with. Nicely done with your arguments.
To me, the battles in The Answer / Episode Aegis, were some of my favorites in the Persona series as a whole.
Thanks for rebutting those people who don't think it's possible to be obsessed with your own past.
I like your video for backing up your points, and giving good reasons. That being said, I strongly disagree the Answer is good. The game starts you off with a emo edgy teenager who doesn't care about living, but over time, learns that there's more to life than just being born and then dying. You have experiences and challenges along the way and have memories than define who you are and what you leave behind. When the protagonist realizes this, and after being a good friend to those around him, he realizes he has to sacrifice himself to save everyone. The point of the main game was that life is fragile, but worth protecting for the memories and people that are affected by you. Having the character face literal death, only to just be a door lock doesn't support the game that life is fragile, and at the end of the day everyone has a happy ending. That's not how life is, and tragic and bad stuff can happen along with happy and memorable moments. Aigis's whole character was that even a machine can learn to appreciate life, because life is beautiful, and not everyone can have it. I understand you like the Answer, and I'm not telling you to change it. For me personally, as someone who had an older brother die from brain cancer a couple of years back who barely got to see his daughter born, having the ending be "He's not dead but guarding everyone." is a half ass ending on what death is. Death was a major part of the story, and I think the protagonist to die only to reveal he was a door lock doesn't fit the theme of death in the game. That being said, thank you for going in depth with your video and pointing out your reasons
The game isn't the anime bro
@@chronica6457 I've never seen the anime
@@redhood7778 "The game starts you off with a emo edgy teenager who doesn't care about living, but over time, learns that there's more to life than just being born and then dying"
That's the anime, not the game. in the game the protagonist is a blank slate whose personality is dependant on you. If anything, direct tie-in material paints him as a much more light-hearted, while still dismissive, character. The anime is what went ham-wire and made him into "an emo edgy teenager"
@@chronica6457 Hate to tell you this, but he came straight out of a My Chemical Romance concert with that haircut
@@redhood7778 Ok, cool. his design being edgy doesn't mean anything about his character, which is my whole point. The character you described is the one in the anime, not in the game
Bro, did the cutscenes in the game always look so HD
14:37 Man junpei calling me out rn
Eah, The Answer truly is Misunderstood. If people yearn for death, it means that life is evil, not death. If the world is evil, we should not grieve its ending. There is no reason to assume that the protagonist wanted to die. There was no option to continue living for him. He chose to protect people that he cared about from immediate danger. But in the Answer those people did have a choice. They were strong enough to beat Erebus every time he raised his ugly heads. But they chose not to because it was more convenient for them. They condemned their savior for eternal torture. Don’t you think that the final death for him would be merciful? But we cannot have mercy in our evil world, can we.
Really nice video man. I can tell you put a lot of thought into this. You’ve earned yourself a thoroughly deserved subscriber.
My main problem with Episode Aigis is that it’s best experienced with The Journey still fairly fresh in your mind. Playing it after taking a break from P3FES for a while didn’t help me, but playing it again right after New Game Plus made it really feel like an answer. It still has it’s flaws but playing it after a break felt like trying to watch season 2 of a story-driven TV show after forgetting what happened in season 1.
P2 and P2two already does the choice circle so that might be why they didn’t in p3
I always thought he was in a coma because he is blocking Nyx, and I never thought he physically died. Never played the answer.
FINALLY, someone i feel enjoyed the gameplay as much as i did. The Answer boss fights are so much fun, honestly. The need to strategize is more present in 30 hours here than along the 130 hours it took me to beat The Journey, and it made The Answer's combat so much fun.
The Answer has some cool parts, like fighting against Shadow Protagonist and the past of all the characters. I think the message is to take the lessons of the past to make a better future, and that's nice. On the other hand the "Civil War" part (motivations and the fact that Aigis has to battle everyone) is fucking bullcrap and Metis the most annoying character ever. Of course this is just an opinion told like an undisputed fact. If you liked the Answer, amazing, I wish I liked it.
While I get it's just your opinion as you stated...I am kinda curious about the reasoning behind them.
Idk the civil war part i thought was amazing and it made complete sense
30:36 - Idk, but to me it doesn't sound like it's necessarily a contradiction. They had their "potencial" given to them, but Mitsuru had natural potencial to use that "potencial" she was given... But idk
As someone who started playing Perona games, currently playing P3P on the vita. I check thinking of playing the answer but have no good emulator to play, so thanks for this video of explaining the parts of The Answer. I may or not give it a go in the future, unless I need save data to transfer to the answer story mode to make things easier-ish.
if they ever bring him back itll be at the end of the series if they decide that humanity has become strong enough to actually conquer death
love this analysis and your critique of youtube game analysis culture lol. shit gets toxic quick.
This reminds me how P4 ultimax shows Elizabeth is saving the world every few yrs and SEES don't even kinda don't and do like that plot point. Since I like Elizabeth trying to saving P3 protagonist is kinda neat
Hell yeah baby, Aigis time!
I know people will give me hate for that,but I enjoyed the answer more than the regular story because it went straight to the point,no social links.
Maybe because I played persona 2 eternal punishment first before playing P3 and the answer is kinda in the same style.
Persona 2 gameplay is absolute garbage
@@ratedjoke2306 I enjoyed collecting cards and contacting demons way more than being forced to listened to people I don't give a shit because of the social links ultimate persona.
Seriously,some where insuferable.
Moon,emperor and magician comes to mind.
I like grinding,feeling powerful and have all my people be at high level to explore their full potential.
So exploring tartarus in 3 and tv world in 4 was way more enjoyable for me than the other 90% of the game.
The answer was amazing for me for that reason.
Not getting tired after exploring the abyss,hard battles,amazing soundtrack and that moment when the team splits and it all becomes like a battle royale really sold me it all.
If you wanna call garbage something I'm playing since its release fine,it's your opinion.
But I have the same right of calling out the dating sim aspects of the newer games.
Play a mainline SMT game, it could probably fit your style :D
Tbh i think i have an explanation why erebus might be intentionally easy
Because the whole team now have their answers they get over the protagonists death and can defeat their erebus very easily (or you just farmed too luch lol)
I didnt even play it for over 10 min and im here
The Answer *is* more difficult than The Journey.
That's not the problem.
The problem is it's annoying and not fun unless you already know the right setups.
in persona 3 fes, i chose to let nyx win when it came to making that choice. better to go out without fear, then wait for a fight i dont know if i could win.
Considering Metis vanishing following the revelation of who she is, I’m surprised that she’s really never been seen since. Besides a costume in Arena and Dancing All Night, I don’t think she’s ever been seen again, and it’s kind of disappointing.
This was a banger video! Now im gonna boot up my ps3 with P3 fes on it. Bought it before the credit card situation.
The problem is, that it is unecessary
I never played it, but I know the story, bestgirl Yukari wants to save my azz. I knew she was loyal. All the other posers and fake friends prefer to let me die
You planning on discussing Persona 3 Portable, P4 Golden and P5 Royal eventually? Maybe even P5 Strikers.
11:33 I used koromaru ken and metis and never any other cuz my god Koromaru carried me with crits and metis orgia mode abuse
I enjoyed answer bosses more than journey bosses
Yeah, I can never understand the hatred towards this. They need proper context to fully understand what exactly happens in The Answer and to get into it. And yet, they never bother to learn and get the memo. This is pretty much the case of Teen Titans Go style fanboy rage where they're angry because 'the characters aren't acting like they did in the orignal' or that 'it ruins the orignal'. What, do they actually expect the characters to act the same as they are in the orignal storyline, even in an epilogue chapter taking place after the orignal story ended when the main character of that had died and they themselves weren't aware of it until it happened?! I just don't understand this either and it really does seem ridiculous. I also see this sorta fanboy rage with Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children and it's the same scenario here. In fact, you can actually see plot similarities between Advent Children and The Answer and both had gathered the same mixed reactions, most of it being that they hate it. Hopefully, this video will serve as a way for them to look back on it and wonder if it really was as bad as they thought it was and maybe give it another look. But if they still don't like it, that's fine, I can see why. With that out, I really hope they bring this back for the P3 remake, most likely as a DLC add-on and hopefully, they have a version of The Answer for the female protagonist introduced into Persona 3 Portable and use that to finally give out answers to the questions about the FeMC timeline that are yet to be answered (No pun intended).
5:13 unlucky broke me
2:21 This video may be a year old but i am now in the exact same situation after i just finished Persona 3 a few days ago lmfao
I like the story in P3 both The Journey and The Answer, but anyone else feel the ending is cheapened a little by the next Persona games? "Like cool you sealed away O N E god that would bring about the end of humanity. Too bad there is a whole cavalcade of other gods Philemon and Nyarlathotep can bet on. Sucks that you just happened to get the one that couldn't be killed or reasoned with after you kicked their asses(?). The other doods got to live."
Makes me want a remake. Thanks
11:20; anyways Ai, Metis, Akihiko and Mitsuru (plus Yukari when Mitsuru wasn’t available) sweep 🥱
I have a friend that thinks persona 3 is the worst out of 3 4 and 5 and heavily disagrees with me that it's my favorite of the 3 but we agree to disagree. It's okay to have differing opinions lol
It is! I’m not trying to prove anyone wrong. The point of my videos is simply to explain my perspective.
I'l never recover from persona 3's story
Gotta be honest, was not expecting that Clementj642 reference lol
What's the music at around 8:30 from? I don't recognize it as Persona 3 music but I really like it
It actually is Persona 3 music! This song is called “Blind Alley” from the Persona 3 FES soundtrack (not the base game OST)
It would be dope if makoto comeback as a persona himself
What is the song name at 25:00?
look up maya theme persona 3
I never once hated the answer but them removing the compendium really was a turn off its not that i hate grinding its just too grindy for my taste so instead i just watched from youtube on how plays out sure it wasnt satisfying since you werent playing it but still enough for me really wish they will do a remake on persona 3 and combine both FES and Portable
*That* video has single-handedly ruined The Answer for so many people but I'm glad someone finally said what I've been saying all along
I think my biggest problem with the anser is it making too explicit all of the implied things in the main game.The message and the ending were beautiful, and didn't need further elaboration. It makes it all feel a bit cheap imo.
I had seen a thumbnail saying how the answer ruined the main stories game, but instead of watching the video I played the game. I thought about how people tell you whats worth your time, but I thought i wont know unless i take the journey myself. After i finished the game I had watched that video and mostly disagreed with it. Then i found yours which i thought a similar view to how i felt about it. Thanks for the video.
Awesome video
28:13 underWHAT?
why steam doesnt have persona the answer nor aegis the first mission? delisted?
The answer had a lot of potential and I liked the story stuff but it was not fun to play. No social link stuff or compendium makes the game feel bare bones which I did not like. I also don’t care much for aigis either
Everyone but Yukari lost someone dear, she is experiencing lost the most because its her first time
Bro...? Did you miss the entire first section of the game?
After you awaken to your Persona, Yukari literally tells you that the reason why she joined SEES is to find out about the truth behind her father's death and how it's been haunting for the last 10 years.
If there's a member in SEES that's never lost anyone it would be Fuuka as she's the only member that still has both her parents.
I'm sorry about the tone of my comment, I'm just a bit confused with your statement.
putting reply here after this video was posted 2 years later but. 27:10 there was Sadayo Kawakami from persona 5, just realized that
i've always loved persona 3 answer though. But there's also the point that i never really had a good internet connection at the time so the internet's opinion not get to me.