What scares me is trying to play an alt and seeing fully geared glads at 1600cr in 2s. This is like 50% of the ladder in low mmr arenas. Boosts are ruining PvP. It makes it impossible to trust achievements and it makes it nearly impossible to climb. Fucking cancer mate
I can confirm. But don’t be surprised if anybody creating these videos tells you to just “git gud”. They know boosting is as bad as it is, they know the classes are skill-less and broken.....but their business is Retail WoW. Be “positive” is the mentality their wallet requires lol even when logic points the other direction. PvP in SL honesty is the worst it’s ever been and I’m echoing these sentiments from previous season gladiators that currently do not make any money off Retail WoW via content creation videos or strategy guides.
@@barkley611 _ But don’t be surprised if anybody creating these videos tells you to just “git gud”_ _Be “positive” is the mentality their wallet requires lol even when logic points the other direction. PvP in SL honesty is the worst it’s ever been and I’m echoing these sentiments from previous season gladiators that currently do not make any money off Retail WoW via content creation videos or strategy guides._ could you please just stop watching guide videos and then crying about how it's worse than ever? Just stop playing if it's so unbearable. No Blizzard employee is going to take your whining as constructive criticism. Find another game Mr. high skilled player or pull your finger out of your ass and git gud
@@juxozo5918 1) No it's not. 2)you can always circumvent this by running RBGs. If you really are a worthy 1800+ player getting to 1600 in RBGs should be easy. I just don't believe good players are stuck at low ratings lol.
I indeed love how I can do effective cd trading against two sub rogues because the match takes the exact time needed for there to be a competitive game where both parties have had the chance to outplay oneanother!
@@arshag14 if you logic it out prewalling the opener is good gameplay and if you don’t predict the rogue is popping everything on you before the opening kidney then the loss also is
Two more things to keep in mind when facing fire mages: 1) don't fully trust your cd tracking because they have 2 ways to lower combustion CDs 2) hunter PvP talent sacrificial roar is great Vs combustion preventing the target from being crit (also good Vs rogues with the master assassin legendary)
By my observations anyone playing a class that does not have one shot dps in PvP - has quit. It’s really annoying being a highly skilled player and getting killed in one global. There’s 0 fkin skill to that
@@danieltische1493 he is still true, ever is he isn't a skilled player. And currently you won't see many people playing: frost, arcane, outlaw, DH, feral, BM or SV because the current meta is about almost about one shotting people in a GCD. I used to play arcane just for fun and I had potential to increase my rating far above 1.8k (but I didn't focus on it) but getting 1.8k today is harder than 2.4k or ever 2.1k on older expansions.
@@danieltische1493 He never said he himself was a high skilled player, hes making a point that skill has nothing to do with getting whiped off the face of the planet in 1 global. It's just so cheese, especially when only certain specs have that type of damage. Take a high rating survival hunter or frost mage like bicmex and venruki on frost, and compare their burst damage to an equally geared Boomkin/Fire Mage. Fire Mage and Boomkin both have more CC, more utility, more mobility, more sustained damage, and more burst damage than the previously mentioned specs. This game is so unbalanced at this point it is upside down.
@@audi9009 _It’s really annoying being a highly skilled player and getting killed in one global. _ No, of course, he wasn't talking about himself. He was talking for someone else, but then he knows exactly that this person must find it annoying. sorry I don't eat that. _hes making a point that skill has nothing to do with getting whiped off the face of the planet in 1 global._ Yeah in every stream I watch they just always die instant! No wait a minute... That only happens every 20th game. The other 19 games go the fights partly 9 minutes long. But skill has nothing to do with it. and the correct and predictable use of def cooldowns is overrated. You know, I know enough of the "type" player. This type of player thinks he is God's messenger himself. Not because he plays well, but a lot. And he has to justify his wasted time somehow. So he is firmly convinced that he is good. When he is defeated, it is always the fault of others or the game. You stand in the middle of the arena without a cover possibility and get killed? yes, the game because I had no time. Only 1 Global mimimimimi.
I don't get why you would leave simply because of that 😅 I see people extremely high rated without being one of those one-shot classes. It takes time, dedication and skill to do good. Overcome the meta 🤷🏼♂️😊
@@AlexandrosKS90 It is true, but I work 9 to 5, and I want to play settup base comps not this bursty meta, l like WoW when is more Chess alike. With the proper mechanical practice it could be easier but I am basiclly a boomer and is too much of an effort to try keep up with fast meta. at the end I am supoused to like what I play and I am already grinding on a 9 to 5 job, I dont want to get more frustration trying to win games against Boomy Andy, pepe Retry and the Fresh-one-macro-Rogue. my personal decision at the end...
@@smitewow7224 yes, he mentions it at 1:42, he doesn't say it when he's talking at 1:25 (after Sera/wings/trinket/DT) saying "the damage then comes from TV which can be further buffed by FV legendary, then WoA into another TV" (paraphrased), he just throws it in later after two TVs already which is just weird and wrong.
@@Lassitude1001 This isnt a guide on "how to oneshot people" its what to look out for to avoid getting burst. Why do you need to know where an instant cast is in the mix?
No convoke? Yes, we can kick, stun, or whatever to stop it. Just like all of these, if you're not ready its lights out. I think its the main ability I've lost to from all the others mentioned. We can even survive an rmp set up now, which honestly is still the scariest comp to face for me.
Convoke also doesn't target stunned or rooted opponents, meaning druids can't even prevent you from countering convoke. Honestly, druids need four seconds of getting the drop on you, that really doesn't happen in PvP.
In arena the crazy ret pal burst FR, TV, DT and how its still bursty with trash gear under 190 ilvl, on 30% armor and 32% versatilty.(still multiple 10k hits in a row) when i saw that in details i was kinda surprised. In BGs, Moonkins - especially if its a 40vs40 man with machines, like 1k winter. You have a lot of stuff goin on, have to deal with tanks and players you are in combat with them and out of nowhere 30m away and from behind appears a moonkin with BIS gear and uses convoke when you got no def cds anymore as they are used up against all those other opponents. And of course you got no fixed healers to babysit you, or pillars to hide. Convoke is like the old greater pyroblast design of fmages in BfA, it might be scarry in arenas, but its totally broken in battlegrounds, at least greater pyro could never 1 shot on its own, but was spamable to offset that disadvantage. affliction lock PoV.
Balance druid, definitely. Especially when paired with another caster or a rogue giving them so many options to cc and convoke. Casters are generaly harder to deal with for me as a warrior. Cleaves comps such as ret/dk or monk/dk can be scary too Oh yeah and bm hunters !
I pulled off a sweet move the other day. I was on my rogue and fighting a DH and he used the hunt and I shadowstep it Lol then he fel rushes back at me and I step that too, it was really smooth and looked cool and I got the kill.
I know how to counter it, but seeing a Balance always gives me anxiety that we will somehow fuck up the interuppt and get one shot or put super far behind from the Convoke. Especially if they have a holy pala that can give them Aura mastery and BoP.
most classes can negate or just flat out avoid convoke with the push of a button. Sometimes i just smh at how bad people can be when it comes to this ability. Like for example no excuse for a rogue to ever die to this spell yet the do all the time lol.
If you tunnel and time cc and interrupts down you got it. But I do understand its hard when they wait last sec to convoke 50 yards wait root and stun. Sorry but I like games I can play not where I see the opponent for .4 sec before I'm dead.
@@AlphaDwg I agree some classes can but the other 29 specs can still be shot due to cc and interrupt CD. 17k hits make you wanna unsub. .6 sec kills are nice but then make kick spammable..
@@johnathonramirez4190 stop having tunnel vision. When the druid pops out of stealth SWAP TO HIM. If he casts convoke kick it problem solved. If you can't reach him pop a defensive problem solved. you know what is coming. I haven't died to convoke from a balance druid in months lol. Feral is a bit different because they can catch you in a full maim and it's gg. But balance is pretty easy to avoid. Also if he's 40 yards away then range it. People's problem with convoke is they don't know what measures to take and you will die to it if you are slow to react. But since I know it's coming and since i know how to respond to it depending on the situation it's a non issue. In fact I get mad when my teammates die to it. It's kinda inexcusable especially for certain classes like rogue, DK, DH, Druid, Monk, Mage, warlocks, priests, etc.
I just tried the whole rotten one shot thing. It is easier said than done. People won't just sit there and let you one shot them. Unless you hit them hard enough to instantly delete them people will ice block, bubble, etc and then you're screwed. I guess I need more practice with it and to use double rogue and not rogue / Druid
I honestly cant se the difference between sub rog burst and ret palla burst.. why should only rogues get nerfed and not the others? And no i dont main rogue nor do i play with a rogue
@@AlphaDwg ye i know, but honestly 1 class shouldnt be able 2 1 shot any other class, niether rogue not palla not Hunter etc etc.. make it to like 30% health or something, force the players to synergize instead of hoping for a 1 shot 2 end the game..
@@drdynanite I already track some stuff but I mean sometimes when I see them proccing it's already too late or if I have no cd left I'm dead insta. Still good video but all we need is tuning at this point.
@@cedriclempereur7642 then i personally can recommend GladiatorSA addon. it will play tts generated sound with skill name, when enemies cast anything. maybe it will fit you better
They often are dog lvl tho, or maybe I've seen to much good RMPs so I compare to them. Other RMs mess in such big stuff it's painful. But it's true that the game is giving them x10 more chances they deserve.
the general consensus now is if you haven't figured out how to deal with convoke by now then there is no hope for you. What class do you play? I'll tell you exactly how you can never die to it again unless you mess up really really badly
The 1400-1600 bracket is basically unplayable if you are not 220ilvl. Full of overgeared ppl or boosters. You are constantly playing against 40k ppl which all they have to do is just pop CD's and one shot you without even CCing the healer.
I achieved 1600 in 2s as ilvl 208, 5 weeks ago 🤷🏼♂️ This was by doing LFG only and I don't have a 2k+ rating on another class. Highest rating so far is 1663. I'm btw playing BM Hunter.
Kill boosted animal players, just detect them fast and kill them before gladiator kills your teammate. Peel for him as well. No gladiator player can avoid peels completely. They are not supertop level, they make mistakes ezpz.
After this site asking why ppl dont play frost dk! That video is the answer. Fdks got not so big burst and counter set ups! All prefer easy way and arena is not balanced the resolt is massive quits. Sud but true.
Blizzard need to fix the logarithm for arena when boosters come to play with 45k+ hp full 227 ilvl on 1500rating VS green frog 207 ilvl ( from Stoopzz_TV video) , i played arena and i literally play on my keyboard 5th simphony , Beethoven and all fkng button used and all CC ... and THAT booster press CONDEMN x 3 gg wp . thats reason why ppl left to play WOW and blizzard dont do shit about it ........
For pve I am all about buff underperformers.. . But all these insta one shots are just stupid and just need to finally nerfed hard. Blizz can't always kepp shit like this in the game for that long. Frustrating to deal with blizzards lack of balancing.
Most feared class - Ret Pally. Easily. They shouldn't be able to do so much damage, so quickly, with such sustained damage, WITH 14 "oh crap" buttons where they're nearly unkillable.
@@vantao9408 Retri do have quite high sustained damage in pvp, constant 3-5k hits with the odd 12k and 15k crits here and there. Try to cast even one spell while getting trained and you'll be spelllocked for any damage in that time. Balanced you say? It is not balanced.
@@vantao9408 Shield of Vengeance, BoP, Divine Shield. Combine all of those, with ridiculous off healing (which can be and has been better than healers), AND their 100-0 capabilities with (yes) high sustained damage, and you have the most broken class. Easily.
@@brandonjmorris5 you realize if a paladin is healing it isn't using it's big damage. The ability to one shot is really a low rating problem, but it would be nice if blizzard made it less chunky.
The one shot meta has effectively dropped player participation in PvP by over 60% according to some data. Considering the other 40% are either boosters, or high ilevel low cr players...games pointless to play unless you are already above 1800 in 220 gear. If you and another player play only PvP, when you both get to 1400 and 207 ilevel - you will encounter some 40K+ 220 Ret Paladin, Rogue, Fire Mage, or WW Monk that is going to kill you in a single CC. This will happen about 50% of your games and you will constantly float between 1400-1600. It’s impossible to get out of this because like I said, virtually all that remains playing the game is high ilevel people grieving (oh excuse me, “helping a buddy” - why does buddy need help? Read above) and boosters.
@@danieltische1493 confirmed by pretty much anyone if you watch Twitch. Even the most skilled players in the game get one shot and know it’s ridiculous. They just know their stream IS THIS so they back off revealing it as completely true. As for the source, Superdata
i can confirm ... yesterday i played vs baheera, cdew, mmakers alts and my friend dh got xaryu, partywaffles, pikaboo. is nice to see all the pro's and glad at 1600-1800, with glad gear ofc ... no balance in classes .. carries all the time ... really no honest ppl trying to climb ... it should be a scaling on gear ... if u r a glad and have 226 gear and u want to play in 1600 ur gear gets automatically downgraded to 213 ... u have the skills but at least dont have the gear ... when u play in your bracket u have all your things back again ... brackets r for something and that way at least u have a chance
As a paladin, what i fear the most is a afliction warlock.... perma slow + insane kite and cc + insane damage..... i wanna leave instantly when i see 1
Are you saying that you can counter the rogue one shot? Are you saying that this combo will not win a free AWC? It cant be my fault, its balance problem for sure. I have 30k hp and get one shot every time. Its so fast I cant even use Battle Master. No way it can get countered, theres a reason why 3v3s and 2v2s brackets top 100 are 90% rogues now.............
@@johnathonramirez4190 yeah but dampening don t make game bursty. if they want shorter games without stupid burst they should nerf a little healing. 10 minutes for me is not long arena. i understand if arenas will be 1 hour or more it will be a problem, but ten minutes it is medium period of time.
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What scares me is trying to play an alt and seeing fully geared glads at 1600cr in 2s. This is like 50% of the ladder in low mmr arenas. Boosts are ruining PvP. It makes it impossible to trust achievements and it makes it nearly impossible to climb. Fucking cancer mate
I can confirm. But don’t be surprised if anybody creating these videos tells you to just “git gud”. They know boosting is as bad as it is, they know the classes are skill-less and broken.....but their business is Retail WoW. Be “positive” is the mentality their wallet requires lol even when logic points the other direction. PvP in SL honesty is the worst it’s ever been and I’m echoing these sentiments from previous season gladiators that currently do not make any money off Retail WoW via content creation videos or strategy guides.
@@barkley611
_ But don’t be surprised if anybody creating these videos tells you to just “git gud”_
_Be “positive” is the mentality their wallet requires lol even when logic points the other direction. PvP in SL honesty is the worst it’s ever been and I’m echoing these sentiments from previous season gladiators that currently do not make any money off Retail WoW via content creation videos or strategy guides._
could you please just stop watching guide videos and then crying about how it's worse than ever? Just stop playing if it's so unbearable. No Blizzard employee is going to take your whining as constructive criticism. Find another game Mr. high skilled player or pull your finger out of your ass and git gud
if you are good you will climb. Nothing has changed in that regard.
@@AlphaDwg its imposible to grind above 1.5k without full glad gear in 3s.
@@juxozo5918 1) No it's not. 2)you can always circumvent this by running RBGs. If you really are a worthy 1800+ player getting to 1600 in RBGs should be easy. I just don't believe good players are stuck at low ratings lol.
Double sub rogue is fun and interactive to play against.
fun and interactive ... u r rogue for sure... what a disgrace for a skill video game to have a castsequence macro for a DPS
@@cubanhunter8264 someone needs a class in sarcasm
@@gropdizzle9295 pff haha i cant believe people like him exists😂
I indeed love how I can do effective cd trading against two sub rogues because the match takes the exact time needed for there to be a competitive game where both parties have had the chance to outplay oneanother!
@@arshag14 if you logic it out prewalling the opener is good gameplay and if you don’t predict the rogue is popping everything on you before the opening kidney then the loss also is
I was just about to log in and que some games. Thank goodness you chainged my mind!
A ret in full 226 gear in the 1300cr alt bracket...
X2Xd
absolutely this, but also just anything with 226 gear.
I'm so old I remember when one-shot actually meant killing something in one hit.
Lol if you don’t have gear you will get literally one shot.
exactly. these new players are SOFT lol
Yeah I grew up on Swifty's Cata videos while learning warrior, feels like another lifetime now.
i like how the only realiable thing to do against sub rogue oneshot is to spam bm trinket
My most feared class as a healer... afflic lock. I just can't keep up with the ramping damage especially with an spriest
shamans will counter this comp really well same with hpal
WARRIOR! no doubt. When i enter arena, and i see a war on the enemy team, i feel like crying.
Two more things to keep in mind when facing fire mages:
1) don't fully trust your cd tracking because they have 2 ways to lower combustion CDs
2) hunter PvP talent sacrificial roar is great Vs combustion preventing the target from being crit (also good Vs rogues with the master assassin legendary)
So, as hunter. There are more tho
One shots felt like a breath of fresh air to start the expansion but now they are just annoying
By my observations anyone playing a class that does not have one shot dps in PvP - has quit. It’s really annoying being a highly skilled player and getting killed in one global. There’s 0 fkin skill to that
@@barkley611 you're talking all big-headed. Please post your character you "high skilled player".
@@danieltische1493 he is still true, ever is he isn't a skilled player. And currently you won't see many people playing: frost, arcane, outlaw, DH, feral, BM or SV because the current meta is about almost about one shotting people in a GCD.
I used to play arcane just for fun and I had potential to increase my rating far above 1.8k (but I didn't focus on it) but getting 1.8k today is harder than 2.4k or ever 2.1k on older expansions.
@@danieltische1493 He never said he himself was a high skilled player, hes making a point that skill has nothing to do with getting whiped off the face of the planet in 1 global. It's just so cheese, especially when only certain specs have that type of damage. Take a high rating survival hunter or frost mage like bicmex and venruki on frost, and compare their burst damage to an equally geared Boomkin/Fire Mage. Fire Mage and Boomkin both have more CC, more utility, more mobility, more sustained damage, and more burst damage than the previously mentioned specs. This game is so unbalanced at this point it is upside down.
@@audi9009 _It’s really annoying being a highly skilled player and getting killed in one global. _
No, of course, he wasn't talking about himself. He was talking for someone else, but then he knows exactly that this person must find it annoying. sorry I don't eat that.
_hes making a point that skill has nothing to do with getting whiped off the face of the planet in 1 global._
Yeah in every stream I watch they just always die instant! No wait a minute... That only happens every 20th game. The other 19 games go the fights partly 9 minutes long. But skill has nothing to do with it. and the correct and predictable use of def cooldowns is overrated. You know, I know enough of the "type" player. This type of player thinks he is God's messenger himself. Not because he plays well, but a lot. And he has to justify his wasted time somehow. So he is firmly convinced that he is good. When he is defeated, it is always the fault of others or the game. You stand in the middle of the arena without a cover possibility and get killed? yes, the game because I had no time. Only 1 Global mimimimimi.
The TRUE COUNTER to these oneshots is to unsubscribe until it gets more balanced.
Wise word
Exactly. Here is a Like for you noble sir. They even sent me a Survey about "WhY arE YoU LeAviNg?"
@@Onikagefx not like they read them anyways
I don't get why you would leave simply because of that 😅 I see people extremely high rated without being one of those one-shot classes. It takes time, dedication and skill to do good. Overcome the meta 🤷🏼♂️😊
@@AlexandrosKS90 It is true, but I work 9 to 5, and I want to play settup base comps not this bursty meta, l like WoW when is more Chess alike. With the proper mechanical practice it could be easier but I am basiclly a boomer and is too much of an effort to try keep up with fast meta. at the end I am supoused to like what I play and I am already grinding on a 9 to 5 job, I dont want to get more frustration trying to win games against Boomy Andy, pepe Retry and the Fresh-one-macro-Rogue. my personal decision at the end...
Fear warrior the most by far. It has everything and so much pressure
You missed Final Reckoning for Ret Paladin. That things does massive damage and also buffs the next Templar's Verdict.
Yeah this, was really odd to see "DT>TV" when it should be DT>FR>TV/FV
He literally mentions final reckoning, did you even watch the video?
@@smitewow7224 yes, he mentions it at 1:42, he doesn't say it when he's talking at 1:25 (after Sera/wings/trinket/DT) saying "the damage then comes from TV which can be further buffed by FV legendary, then WoA into another TV" (paraphrased), he just throws it in later after two TVs already which is just weird and wrong.
@@Lassitude1001 This isnt a guide on "how to oneshot people" its what to look out for to avoid getting burst. Why do you need to know where an instant cast is in the mix?
@@smitewow7224 Then why mention DT? Because it buffs the TV/FV. Do you know what else does that? FR.
No convoke the spirits?
No convoke? Yes, we can kick, stun, or whatever to stop it. Just like all of these, if you're not ready its lights out. I think its the main ability I've lost to from all the others mentioned. We can even survive an rmp set up now, which honestly is still the scariest comp to face for me.
Convoke also doesn't target stunned or rooted opponents, meaning druids can't even prevent you from countering convoke. Honestly, druids need four seconds of getting the drop on you, that really doesn't happen in PvP.
@@MoSteel497 yes it does hit stunned targets lol...fact check maybe?
In arena the crazy ret pal burst FR, TV, DT and how its still bursty with trash gear under 190 ilvl, on 30% armor and 32% versatilty.(still multiple 10k hits in a row) when i saw that in details i was kinda surprised.
In BGs, Moonkins - especially if its a 40vs40 man with machines, like 1k winter. You have a lot of stuff goin on, have to deal with tanks and players you are in combat with them and out of nowhere 30m away and from behind appears a moonkin with BIS gear and uses convoke when you got no def cds anymore as they are used up against all those other opponents. And of course you got no fixed healers to babysit you, or pillars to hide.
Convoke is like the old greater pyroblast design of fmages in BfA, it might be scarry in arenas, but its totally broken in battlegrounds, at least greater pyro could never 1 shot on its own, but was spamable to offset that disadvantage.
affliction lock PoV.
My least fav class to face is rogue and ret. mage / Moonkin aren't far behind
what's the addon called where it shows cooldowns above the nameplates?
warrior condem x3? one shot?
no?
No, warrior doesn't have a oneshot. Warrior just has unhealable constant damage.
Ret War Rogue and Mage are the classes that scare me the most
Balance druid, definitely. Especially when paired with another caster or a rogue giving them so many options to cc and convoke.
Casters are generaly harder to deal with for me as a warrior.
Cleaves comps such as ret/dk or monk/dk can be scary too
Oh yeah and bm hunters !
this is the best video to help for arena
I have found that the best way to counter the one shot combos is to Unsubscribe, works like a fucking charm!
That Mage's HP doesn't even move at 14:13 - It just proccs cauterize. 44% > 38% + Cauterize. No damage pops up on the screen, either. Odd
Great work
Great video
can mages nova DH after The Hunt cast to stop damage??
Yes you will stop the direct dmg but not the dot
One shots is the reason my friends list is empty now
Shamens. Spec doesn't matter. I just can't seem to figure out what the out player is.
Not gonna lie, I didn't know you could bop fear 😮
only warris fear becaus its physical
@@ben_ger1988 Ah! :D makes sense then
What is the nameplates called? Can someone please answer? Thanks in advance
probably talking about big debuffs
Even though Convoke is easy to combat, everything else about Boomkin is difficult to fight against, and I hate fighting against them.
Agreed, but without convoke, which is super easy to counter, they aren't going to be globaling you at least
I pulled off a sweet move the other day. I was on my rogue and fighting a DH and he used the hunt and I shadowstep it Lol then he fel rushes back at me and I step that too, it was really smooth and looked cool and I got the kill.
Really enjoy farming 2.1k rbg droolers hardstuck on 1.5k cr 3v3 1k games on my 205 alts
preach
Frost dk and bm hunter are the only hunters that make me want to alt f4 before the game even starts.
Yea, that's the thing about paladins. You see wings, run. if you can't run, trinket and pop def or run. When it's done, he's toast.
Boomkin Convoke ... really sucks in 2s as disc warrior expecially paired with a paladin
Any spell cleave
Druids and paladins... some things never change
I know how to counter it, but seeing a Balance always gives me anxiety that we will somehow fuck up the interuppt and get one shot or put super far behind from the Convoke. Especially if they have a holy pala that can give them Aura mastery and BoP.
most classes can negate or just flat out avoid convoke with the push of a button. Sometimes i just smh at how bad people can be when it comes to this ability. Like for example no excuse for a rogue to ever die to this spell yet the do all the time lol.
If you tunnel and time cc and interrupts down you got it. But I do understand its hard when they wait last sec to convoke 50 yards wait root and stun. Sorry but I like games I can play not where I see the opponent for .4 sec before I'm dead.
@@AlphaDwg I agree some classes can but the other 29 specs can still be shot due to cc and interrupt CD. 17k hits make you wanna unsub. .6 sec kills are nice but then make kick spammable..
@@johnathonramirez4190 stop having tunnel vision. When the druid pops out of stealth SWAP TO HIM. If he casts convoke kick it problem solved. If you can't reach him pop a defensive problem solved. you know what is coming. I haven't died to convoke from a balance druid in months lol. Feral is a bit different because they can catch you in a full maim and it's gg. But balance is pretty easy to avoid. Also if he's 40 yards away then range it. People's problem with convoke is they don't know what measures to take and you will die to it if you are slow to react. But since I know it's coming and since i know how to respond to it depending on the situation it's a non issue. In fact I get mad when my teammates die to it. It's kinda inexcusable especially for certain classes like rogue, DK, DH, Druid, Monk, Mage, warlocks, priests, etc.
@@AlphaDwg If the boomie is outside of shadowstep or shadowstrike range when they come out the rogue won't be able to connect and kick.
11:47 skillcaps?
The dh runs away from mage and turns in the direction of the rogue. Yeah I'm not surprised he knew he was switching targets. Hurdur
seems that SL pvp was made by rextroy did blizzard hired him ?????
where's the frost dk?
spread out
Really gotta level up my pala before it's 2 late :p
I just tried the whole rotten one shot thing. It is easier said than done. People won't just sit there and let you one shot them. Unless you hit them hard enough to instantly delete them people will ice block, bubble, etc and then you're screwed. I guess I need more practice with it and to use double rogue and not rogue / Druid
I honestly cant se the difference between sub rog burst and ret palla burst.. why should only rogues get nerfed and not the others? And no i dont main rogue nor do i play with a rogue
ret has literally been nerfed every patch this expansion
@@AlphaDwg ye i know, but honestly 1 class shouldnt be able 2 1 shot any other class, niether rogue not palla not Hunter etc etc.. make it to like 30% health or something, force the players to synergize instead of hoping for a 1 shot 2 end the game..
Ray of Hope + Frost DK pumping = 36k damage in one hit :( I didn't even know what Ray of Hope was...
The only reason that Ray of Hope oneshot exists is that people don't know about that ability.
@@georgthesecond which is pathetic since it was the staple to holy priest pvp in legion when they were popular
Good video but tbh for the average player there is too much things to pay attention to and you got insta clapped before you even check them :\
that's why he suggests to use weak auras addon
@@drdynanite I already track some stuff but I mean sometimes when I see them proccing it's already too late or if I have no cd left I'm dead insta.
Still good video but all we need is tuning at this point.
@@cedriclempereur7642 then i personally can recommend GladiatorSA addon. it will play tts generated sound with skill name, when enemies cast anything. maybe it will fit you better
you know something is coming when he pally is shaking his point of view real quick
Warrior is the thing that scares me the most in arena more than anything rn
Totally aggree
Sub rogue and ret needs dmg reduce but u can't win against a good warrior
The class i fear the most is myself; a dumbass. Because i keep shorting myself just behind 1800 despite rerolling through many toons
when i see rogue mage i question myself to /afk
They often are dog lvl tho, or maybe I've seen to much good RMPs so I compare to them.
Other RMs mess in such big stuff it's painful. But it's true that the game is giving them x10 more chances they deserve.
Windwalker Monk. Just such a pain...
Double convoke boomkin, double fire mage, double rogue nope just smile and wave just snile and wave
As a warrior i fear locks and resto druids
Warriors!
I'm curious about this narrator's accent. Is it Brazilian, or Scandinavian?
GG BLIZZARD FOR THIS SHIT
Paladin still scariest
Where is convoke?
the general consensus now is if you haven't figured out how to deal with convoke by now then there is no hope for you. What class do you play? I'll tell you exactly how you can never die to it again unless you mess up really really badly
where's the warrior ?:D
warr is more about high consistent damage
The 1400-1600 bracket is basically unplayable if you are not 220ilvl. Full of overgeared ppl or boosters. You are constantly playing against 40k ppl which all they have to do is just pop CD's and one shot you without even CCing the healer.
if you are good you will climb
I achieved 1600 in 2s as ilvl 208, 5 weeks ago 🤷🏼♂️ This was by doing LFG only and I don't have a 2k+ rating on another class. Highest rating so far is 1663.
I'm btw playing BM Hunter.
There's no point in getting angry from losing. The meta is as it is, you can't change it. Just learn from every game you play and improve yourself.
@@AlexandrosKS90 I am at 1600 aswell with similar ilvl.. Doesn't change the fact that I said.....
Kill boosted animal players, just detect them fast and kill them before gladiator kills your teammate. Peel for him as well. No gladiator player can avoid peels completely.
They are not supertop level, they make mistakes ezpz.
After this site asking why ppl dont play frost dk! That video is the answer. Fdks got not so big burst and counter set ups! All prefer easy way and arena is not balanced the resolt is massive quits. Sud but true.
Ion: how should we design the pvp for shadowlands?
also Ion: ah, let's give it to some Kakapos
class no turbo yes
You miss warrior o sry i forgot no way counter condem .....
ROGUES
Dammit frontloaded is the best
Blizzard need to fix the logarithm for arena when boosters come to play with 45k+ hp full 227 ilvl on 1500rating VS green frog 207 ilvl ( from Stoopzz_TV video) , i played arena and i literally play on my keyboard 5th simphony , Beethoven and all fkng button used and all CC ... and THAT booster press CONDEMN x 3 gg wp . thats reason why ppl left to play WOW and blizzard dont do shit about it ........
Shadow priests - hate healing against them!
I just wanna uninstall facing hunters or rogues, I can't quite figure out why that is or why it isn't even satisfying winning against them ;-;
I play BM. Why would you feel that way playing against Hunters?? 😅
@@AlexandrosKS90 cuz they just dispell all my dots on a 15second CD without getting UA dmg ;-;
@@Ketzerli ahhh.. ofc 😂👍🏼
For pve I am all about buff underperformers.. . But all these insta one shots are just stupid and just need to finally nerfed hard. Blizz can't always kepp shit like this in the game for that long. Frustrating to deal with blizzards lack of balancing.
Most feared class - Ret Pally.
Easily.
They shouldn't be able to do so much damage, so quickly, with such sustained damage, WITH 14 "oh crap" buttons where they're nearly unkillable.
14 huh? You mean bubble and shield of vengeance? Lol@high sustained as well. What are you on?
@@vantao9408 Retri do have quite high sustained damage in pvp, constant 3-5k hits with the odd 12k and 15k crits here and there. Try to cast even one spell while getting trained and you'll be spelllocked for any damage in that time. Balanced you say? It is not balanced.
@@jellyfiish2870 waoh when you get kicked you get silenced? This is sooooo specific to ret, what a broken feature
@@vantao9408 Shield of Vengeance, BoP, Divine Shield. Combine all of those, with ridiculous off healing (which can be and has been better than healers), AND their 100-0 capabilities with (yes) high sustained damage, and you have the most broken class. Easily.
@@brandonjmorris5 you realize if a paladin is healing it isn't using it's big damage. The ability to one shot is really a low rating problem, but it would be nice if blizzard made it less chunky.
Rogue, dk
The one shot meta has effectively dropped player participation in PvP by over 60% according to some data. Considering the other 40% are either boosters, or high ilevel low cr players...games pointless to play unless you are already above 1800 in 220 gear.
If you and another player play only PvP, when you both get to 1400 and 207 ilevel - you will encounter some 40K+ 220 Ret Paladin, Rogue, Fire Mage, or WW Monk that is going to kill you in a single CC.
This will happen about 50% of your games and you will constantly float between 1400-1600. It’s impossible to get out of this because like I said, virtually all that remains playing the game is high ilevel people grieving (oh excuse me, “helping a buddy” - why does buddy need help? Read above) and boosters.
_The one shot meta has effectively dropped player participation in PvP by over 60% according to some data._
source: "Trust me Dude!"
@@danieltische1493 confirmed by pretty much anyone if you watch Twitch. Even the most skilled players in the game get one shot and know it’s ridiculous. They just know their stream IS THIS so they back off revealing it as completely true. As for the source, Superdata
i can confirm ... yesterday i played vs baheera, cdew, mmakers alts and my friend dh got xaryu, partywaffles, pikaboo. is nice to see all the pro's and glad at 1600-1800, with glad gear ofc ... no balance in classes .. carries all the time ... really no honest ppl trying to climb ... it should be a scaling on gear ... if u r a glad and have 226 gear and u want to play in 1600 ur gear gets automatically downgraded to 213 ... u have the skills but at least dont have the gear ... when u play in your bracket u have all your things back again ... brackets r for something and that way at least u have a chance
@@cubanhunter8264 yup and i played with donald trump on 4.4k rating
@@barkley611 where does the 60% come from? your cute little gut feelings?
COVOKE HELOOOO ?? :DDdd
As a paladin, what i fear the most is a afliction warlock.... perma slow + insane kite and cc + insane damage..... i wanna leave instantly when i see 1
Warriors/ff
Are you saying that you can counter the rogue one shot? Are you saying that this combo will not win a free AWC? It cant be my fault, its balance problem for sure. I have 30k hp and get one shot every time. Its so fast I cant even use Battle Master. No way it can get countered, theres a reason why 3v3s and 2v2s brackets top 100 are 90% rogues now.............
Bro Dh is not that OP.lol , comparing , Dh has no defensives at all , it's a squishy class rn that's why there is no Dh 2700+
Affli locs
Boomkin
The scarest arena character is wow dev who allowed to one shots happening, fucking joke
Blame Ion. He said he got tired of watching 10 min arena matches. Sorry but I find 50-80% dampening the most exciting.
@@johnathonramirez4190 yeah but dampening don t make game bursty. if they want shorter games without stupid burst they should nerf a little healing. 10 minutes for me is not long arena. i understand if arenas will be 1 hour or more it will be a problem, but ten minutes it is medium period of time.
@@andrewslayer9 I agree. I'm just saying I really enjoy the nail bitter games of dampening. One shot games are not fun.
Watching this video made me feel like i hate this game. I do feel like that while playing aswell. Especially rogue and fire mage are the worst for me.
Rogue is by far the most annoying one. It requires to udr multiplr.cooldowns to survive a burst they can do over and over and over and over again
Where is Boomy ???hahahahaha
skillcapped is like look if you can't figure convoke out by now there is no help for you.
@@AlphaDwg Many players still dying from that magic,this is op magic and missing in this video.thanks
1. Arms warrior
2. Ret Pally
3. Frost mage
4. Feral Druid
5. Fire Mage
Lfg is literally stacked w fotm classes. Lmao. #shadowlands.
Nothing New: ret pally, Arms Warrior, boomy, sub Rogues
Most broken are rogues totally
when you need some alternative and creative methods to counter one shot teams, you know that game is in a shitty state.
It is neither alternative nor creative...just trading defensive and offensive cooldowns
My only joy in wow is one shorting people...don’t ruin my fun skillcapped u fks.
Why the fuck do I play hunter . Just why .
Oneshot sub rogue is horrible
The fact that this is what content is getting produced is sad af lol
Whazz a crybaby. Lul
this one shot meta is awful
lesson here is PUSH YOUR DAMN BUTTONS and stop crying about damage lol
Big lmao
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