A few comments. I used Hep20 fittings 30+ years back and they are still holding strong, Agree that the speedfit fittings are best. Lastly I would never use those screwdriver isolation valves. Hate them!!! I go for full handle ball valves
To find hot/cold at the tap.....open the tap at cold setting, then blow through flexi pipes. Whichever pipe has no restriction, i.e you can blow through it, THAT is the cold
Great video Stu (took me quite a few years to build up the knowledge it contains). The only thing I’d say is I was always told by plumbers I’d worked with that mixing different manufacturers pipework isn’t good practice. That would mean you’d have to stay hep2O or put some copper in between the different fittings, but I tend to do this to stay safe.
Great Video, Im in the middle of replacing my shower and todays Job is to extended the hot & cold onto an existing Hep2o connection into the loft for a digital shower, and next weekend is a new stud wall to box it all in!
excellent video stuart! just yesterday i had to do an emergency repair on a speedfit joint at the inlaws. we think the plumber who has done their bathroom refit, has reused the old leaky speedfit elbow from the bath and fitted it to the new shower which has spent the last 3 weeks leaking down the kitchen wall. we had to cut a hole through the thermoblock wall on the landing just to get to it.
RE: Hep2o fittings, I don't know if they still do it but they certainly did a few years back. If you contact the company politely expressing interest they will send you a sample kit. Mine contained two fittings, a bit of pipe, a couple of inserts and most importantly a removal tool/key. For a while they would also send you a pipe cutter if you asked nicely as well and their pipe cutter is really nice, just uses a stanley blade so easy to keep sharp and it works like the speed cutters for copper, you just snap it on the pipe and spin it a few times until the pipe is cut.
I don't think you mentioned it but I reckon it's worth saying it, considering that you did it correctly; holes in stud-work should always be done vertically and not side by side.
Just so you know mate, on those flexi taps the cold is always going to be the one on the right and hot on the left as it goes into the tap body. Also you shouldn’t connect the flexis onto the isolation valves like that, they are designed to fit onto a flat face like a male iron to copper for example. The face of those isolation valves is bored so it accepts the olive. If even slightly over tightened it will cut into the rubber of the flexi causing it to leak 👍🏻
Hi Stuart, Good video as always. A couple of points. 1-have a wet and dry vac on standby. 2-I prefer to use a smear of a jointing compound designed for use with hot and cold potable water(Non-toxic formulation. WRAS approved) on compression fittings.
Great video, I've been holding off bringing water to a new loo and sink under the stair, I'm just nervous about leaks. I've already core drilled out and got the waste fitted into the stack. How did you get on fitting JG to Hep20? From what I know they're both fine into copper but don't they need own brand 15mm plastic pipe, or is it just the inserts that make the difference?
It's worth marking the pipe when using 'push-fit' to know it has gone all the way in. Another thing Stuart, sinks go in kitchens, basins go in bathrooms. 🙂
Interesting what you British folks use for plumbing. I take it that Shark Bites aren’t available there? (Been doing all new plumbing in my copper pipe filled house with Pex-A, but do occasionally have to use a SharkBite). Also, that piping seems a bit narrow, is it less than a ½ inch?
Sharkbite is the same as tectite, stainless teeth grip and not demountable. Hep2o actually used to be like that too, it wasn't demountable as it is now. The pipe is 15mm.
Hep2o fittings are guaranteed for 25 years, where as the Speedfit are guaranteed for 20 years. Hep2o are trickier to work with it, so depends on you and your piece of mind. For a DIYer in your own home, the Hep2o might be the way?
Fab video Stuart. On the compression fittings how come you didn’t use any flux and just used PTFE? Love your content it’s really helped with my current house refurb in progress. You’ve inspired me to do a lot myself.
I think you mean paste, not flux. Paste is better and quicker than ptfe in my opinion but both will work. Some diehards will say you need neither and in many cases this is true but why risk it!
Plumber here! Hummmm I don’t know man, leave it to the experts I’d say, get it wrong and you could destroy your house, trust me I’ve seen it, love your channel tho mate 👌
A few comments. I used Hep20 fittings 30+ years back and they are still holding strong, Agree that the speedfit fittings are best. Lastly I would never use those screwdriver isolation valves. Hate them!!! I go for full handle ball valves
To find hot/cold at the tap.....open the tap at cold setting, then blow through flexi pipes.
Whichever pipe has no restriction, i.e you can blow through it, THAT is the cold
Great video Stu (took me quite a few years to build up the knowledge it contains). The only thing I’d say is I was always told by plumbers I’d worked with that mixing different manufacturers pipework isn’t good practice. That would mean you’d have to stay hep2O or put some copper in between the different fittings, but I tend to do this to stay safe.
Was advised by my plumber to use swept waste bends wherever possible vs 90 degree bends when doing my own DIY work to ensure better flow
Great Video, Im in the middle of replacing my shower and todays Job is to extended the hot & cold onto an existing Hep2o connection into the loft for a digital shower, and next weekend is a new stud wall to box it all in!
excellent video stuart! just yesterday i had to do an emergency repair on a speedfit joint at the inlaws. we think the plumber who has done their bathroom refit, has reused the old leaky speedfit elbow from the bath and fitted it to the new shower which has spent the last 3 weeks leaking down the kitchen wall. we had to cut a hole through the thermoblock wall on the landing just to get to it.
RE: Hep2o fittings, I don't know if they still do it but they certainly did a few years back. If you contact the company politely expressing interest they will send you a sample kit. Mine contained two fittings, a bit of pipe, a couple of inserts and most importantly a removal tool/key. For a while they would also send you a pipe cutter if you asked nicely as well and their pipe cutter is really nice, just uses a stanley blade so easy to keep sharp and it works like the speed cutters for copper, you just snap it on the pipe and spin it a few times until the pipe is cut.
also worth noting that even push fit should be secured / fixed back to the studs at various centres, particularly at the corner joints..
I don't think you mentioned it but I reckon it's worth saying it, considering that you did it correctly; holes in stud-work should always be done vertically and not side by side.
Always like reading the comments to gain at least 50% more knowledge from those who know. 👍
At least it's not just me that uses every available flat surface as a tool station when I am doing a job around the gaff..👍😊
Just so you know mate, on those flexi taps the cold is always going to be the one on the right and hot on the left as it goes into the tap body. Also you shouldn’t connect the flexis onto the isolation valves like that, they are designed to fit onto a flat face like a male iron to copper for example. The face of those isolation valves is bored so it accepts the olive. If even slightly over tightened it will cut into the rubber of the flexi causing it to leak 👍🏻
You can get flat faced isolation valves to eliminate that problem.
Hi Stuart,
Good video as always. A couple of points. 1-have a wet and dry vac on standby. 2-I prefer to use a smear of a jointing compound designed for use with hot and cold potable water(Non-toxic formulation. WRAS approved) on compression fittings.
It was always "Boss White" in my day (years ago)
as your mixing fittings, its probably worth checking that the pipework is compatible for use with both types of fittings.
0:36 gave me a good chuckle Stuart.
Came to the comment section looking for this. Was not disappointed.
Lovely job!
Shame this didn’t come out a couple days earlier🤣just finished moving 2 radiators using speed fit connectors
Great video !!! thsnks
When trying to work out which is hot and cold i tend to set the tap to cold and blow through the flexi 😉
Good tip, but cold will always be on the right too 👍🏻
Can you tell me what your plan is for access to the isolation valves? Through the vanity unit or through from the other side of the stud wall?
Great video 👍🏻
I wouldn’t advise plastic downstairs if you’ve got timber joisted floor - mice/rats like chewing on them….
Brilliant!
Great video, I've been holding off bringing water to a new loo and sink under the stair, I'm just nervous about leaks. I've already core drilled out and got the waste fitted into the stack.
How did you get on fitting JG to Hep20? From what I know they're both fine into copper but don't they need own brand 15mm plastic pipe, or is it just the inserts that make the difference?
Doesn’t make any difference mate you can use any fitting on any pipe 👍🏻
It's worth marking the pipe when using 'push-fit' to know it has gone all the way in. Another thing Stuart, sinks go in kitchens, basins go in bathrooms. 🙂
Interesting what you British folks use for plumbing. I take it that Shark Bites aren’t available there? (Been doing all new plumbing in my copper pipe filled house with Pex-A, but do occasionally have to use a SharkBite). Also, that piping seems a bit narrow, is it less than a ½ inch?
Sharkbite is the same as tectite, stainless teeth grip and not demountable. Hep2o actually used to be like that too, it wasn't demountable as it is now. The pipe is 15mm.
Hep2o fittings are guaranteed for 25 years, where as the Speedfit are guaranteed for 20 years. Hep2o are trickier to work with it, so depends on you and your piece of mind. For a DIYer in your own home, the Hep2o might be the way?
Also with Speedfit there are two different pipe inserts depending on what you are joining to, with Hep2o there is just the one.
Fab video Stuart. On the compression fittings how come you didn’t use any flux and just used PTFE? Love your content it’s really helped with my current house refurb in progress. You’ve inspired me to do a lot myself.
I think you mean paste, not flux. Paste is better and quicker than ptfe in my opinion but both will work. Some diehards will say you need neither and in many cases this is true but why risk it!
Mister Mike, using compression fittings is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman, don't go in dry! 😮
Did you use gas often tape?
Looks like it. The yellow spool gives it away!
Why not just use braided hoses from the wall and feed those through?
Pushfit need to be marked on outside for FULL insertion. A mistake you only make ONCE 😢
Plumber here! Hummmm I don’t know man, leave it to the experts I’d say, get it wrong and you could destroy your house, trust me I’ve seen it, love your channel tho mate 👌
Until i can replace a burst mains stop cock i wont be trusting one to stop water for me to change an o ring again
If you're a plumber, why do you watch videos like this when you are well able to do it? (Given it's aimed at DIYers)
@@StuckInTheM1ddlecoz I watch his videos every week 🤷♂️
Thats not the
correct use of ptfe tape. It's for sealing over size threads. Use something like jet blue (or screwfixs cheaper sealing paste)
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