KAESER Smart Pipe Plus Air System Discussion with Air Power Services
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- This video is about a discussion I had with Brad Wartman from Air Power Services of Pensacola about the Kaeser Smart Pipe aluminum compressed air piping system that they installed in our new shop. Brad will go over some of the benefits of using this piping system as well as why they chose the style and size air compressor for my shop.
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I have to give Adam credit for knowing when to let his guest speak and not interrupt, yet he asks good questions and keeps the presentation flowing.
I suppose you could say I was BLOWN away by the simple and clean installation that was COMPRESSED into the video
Thanks for sharing! We have a Kaeser air system at work for as long as I can remember. It been through hurricanes, floods and in the Louisiana humidity. Air compressors make 5 gallons of water a day. Great projects.
I come from an experience of maintaining 8 heavy plant air compressors ranging from 600hp down to 300hp, it's nice to know and see what is available for production shops. In a previous life I would have called them "cute". I've worked with many of the same companies that you mention. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for putting the mic on other people that are talking. Makes the experience much better.
Thanks for this. Man that compressor is quiet. When I had my shop going, I had a 7 1/2 hp dual stage with 80 gal tank. I used 3/4" copper tubing with dryers and oilers at four workstations.
Before that I worked at an aerospace company that had a screw compressor that was powered by a natural gas converted ford 460 V8 outside under a shed. Man that thing screamed so loud that we would wait for it to finish its cycle before going outside to our other building.
Good discussion. I enjoyed learning more about air lines. I too have used PVC in the past with thankfully no issues. I learned about the hazards of PVC and replaced it immediately. To back up a little, I am now a retired homeowner user of air and have a small hobby-type wood shop. When providing air where needed, I decided on PEX. 1. It is easy to snake around wherever I wanted to provide a drop. 2. It has none of the hazards of PVC. 3. I had a sufficient amount of leftover material after re-plumbing the entire water supply to my home. If there is an issue, I can totally replace the air lines with remaining material in less than 2 hours since I have the crimp tools.
I was told pex is good for 600 pounds but not sure
@@tonythompson9049 I couldn't remember, so I looked it up. PEX is in the 800 psi range but fittings are near 400 psi. It appears to be plenty to safety factor for my needs in my shop.
Yes sir should be fine for your needs like you said
old employer had a Kaeser compressor and this style air system, had to make modifications to the system to allow for a wall being knocked through, it was super easy to disassemble and modify
Quite informative ... thanks Adam and Brad 👏
Great system. Thank you for sharing.
A great discussion, and lots for me to ruminate on.
Much appreciated!
Lots of advantages and features on that system. Thanks guys.
great video Adam.he was very good explain the benefits of the system
Wow adam he is very knowledgeable and easy to listen to. He should have his own channel too! He’s a very good spokesman for the brand and his company. I’m a huge fan of your channel!
I like this product. Much better than typical iron pipe.
Old school and think 3" and under nothing beats copper tubing for up to 135 #'s. Black pipe & even galvanised rust. At a candy company we had a ten million dollar robotic line that had over 500 air solenoids. They had a quality refrigerated dryer just for this 200' line and had some kind of dryers on each end that changed color towards needed replacement of dryer element. At the large hospital/research center that I retired from they started to purchase only Krasner air compressors ( except for special medical air compressors ). They paid a contractor to perform PM'S on them and the knes supplying HVAC equipment ran 24/7. They were smart enough to install two at every location where only one ran at a time. Computer would switch lead/lag on them every werk.
3" copper for air lines?? Is Elon your dad??
He was very knowledgable and was not super salesman at all. I enjoyed this video a lot. Hope you can have him on again for other topics around air compressors.
Cool Adam...I've not seen a 5hp screw comp. I maintain all our plant screw compressors..from 400hp down to our smallest 50hp as well as several piston ones. Just keep the oil changed and they'll last forever. Unfortunately a 350hp Sullair recently cooked due to an electric fire ..by the time I got there to put it out..it was shot. It had been running since 1994 24/7...we got 3 new ingersol rand 900cfm in..and they are complete junk...replacing IRs from 1980ish..not even in the same universe for quality. GL.
Damn, well if I was still in the cabinet industry, this looks like the type of system I would go with!!
I like how the rep talks about the DIY option, and sells the service with a ‘yes *and*’ type of pitch, instead of discouraging DIY customers outright.
love this system
Good info on this video! I have already decided to buy a Kaeser Aircenter SM10 for the new 16m x 24m shop once its built, My father have a Kaeser and it have been going strong for least 15 years. This video made me think about the piping system (HD Welding shop for mining and earthmoving items) i like to have clean air for my Plasma, Air gouge, impact, needlescalers etc. I was simply going to weld some tube together with up and down hooks for drop down to get the piping crap to dont get into the fittings. Need to check if this system is aviable in Sweden.
Mate of mine installed it in his picture framing workshop (here it's called Unipipe). Very good looking installation, but shortly after installation, one of the 25mm connections burst open at 125psi and scared the living crap out of everyone. Probably due to poor installation, but a good reminder of how much energy is stored in these systems. Me, I just ran 3/4" pex with 1/2" drops to the machines. Would probably be OK with normal polyethylene pipe also, but would not run PVC for air - it shatters when it fails.
I was wondering how the Kaiser stick-type smartpipe compares with the coiled aluminum pipe I've seen sold for small shop air system installations. I wish he would have addressed that.
I know the compressor is Branded Kaeser which is a German company which a lot of people do not like but i do have to say that they are a very good compressor compared to the majority and do run a lot quieter than most. I am from the UK and Kaeser are Branded HPC in the UK, and having been trained on Various brands of compressor they are basically all the same, some a little noisier than others, but the difference is in the controllers, and this is where a lot of the problems arise with screw or scroll compressors. Now i have found that the Sigma controller on Kaeser/HPC compressors the most reliable, as some like Atlas Copco and Mark Compressors including Boge Compressors tend to be a little short on quality, there are forever glitches in them, and replacements do not come cheap.
So glad Adam didn't get Atlas Copco and purchased Kaeser!!
this if quite interesting, I know a little bit about air systems.
In my shop the we have a quite big air system the piping was probably dome over 20 years ago and its pvc ore what ever plastic and it gets old and gets leaks wich is a huge problem for us, we can shut down 10 cnc machines just to fix a damn pipe so it just gets wrapped a little and leaks constantly.
we do also have two very big Kaeser compressors and air colors
Interesting. I can see this system being installed in a garage during rough construction with a pair of opposing stub outs and an inlet to hook up your compressor of choice...tired of dragging the 50' hose out for a ten foot reach...oh get a shorter hose; uh duh!! Thanks for the presentation!
Cool product...:-)
The sponge . He has got another freebee ! He has such good luck . We are all jealous .
The presence he has built in the video world deserves all he can get from the manufacturers!
I don’t know. Think I’ll stick with schedule 40 pvc with standard slip glue fittings. Just makes shop days so much more exciting, never know which fitting will blow apart or when. The occasional “POW HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS” just keeps everyone on their toes.
hey Adam if it wasn't done i would install a autodrain on your surge drum tank to get the condensate out of there. even though you have a dryer it won't remove 100% of the condensate. in case your curious at my work we had to install an autodrain cause we found our 250 gallon surge drum had 20 gallons of water in the bottom after 1yr of running with brand new compressor and dryer.
Worked at a large slaughterehouse years ago. They purchased a used 50 or 60' long tank that came off a railroad car. Ran at least 350 HP of air compressors during production. Lazy mechanic was supposed to drain it end of every day but would only do it on Saturdays. He took off two weeks vacation during hot humid summer . They asked me to drain it late Saturday afternoon. Had so much water in tank for an extra hour of overtime.
As usual - very informative! Thanks Adam and Brad! For someone who's just thinking about setting up a shop, this gives me lots of insights to consider so thanks!
I hope you have videos showing all of your new toys in action. Do you plan on getting a CNC machine later or water jet version? Great stuff.
He has a CNC machine! :-)
@@myname7021 and he gets another one 😏
Of course other systems like pvc or black pipe etc will absolutely work and are likely cheaper, I feel like people fail to realize the cost of the equipment and the cost to repair a cnc lathe or mill. We aren’t talking about filling bike tires and basketballs…. A bad air system can cost thousands in repairs over the years. A piece of rust or trash from the air system tears up a seal in the pneumatic headstock or tool changer, you know that repair is going to be at least $1000 for a tech to fly out and tear it apart to fix it. If a high quality air system like this one prevents that from happening only one time in his shop, it paid for itself already. Adam I think your doing the exact things you should be, spend what you can afford to and do it right, it will save you time and money in the long run.
When the next air system comes out this will then be crap and nothing but cons will be said. Lol "a piece of rust or trash". As if nobody puts filters on to prevent such things regardless of the pipe used.. Just stop.
Very impressed with how the shop is coming together. At my old plant the pressure vessels had to be inspected by the County every year. It may not be required in Pensacola, but nationally OSHA 1910.169 applies. Might check and get ahead of this, avoid fines.
With no employees OSHA does not apply.
In my company production facility and shop we run copper pipes for compressed air. I don't think this material has been addressed in the video, any reasons?
They did mention copper . hassle to install in my experience (esp. the soldering) and will be more expensive.
Copper work hardens from vibration. It can eventually fail
@@Kosmonooit I'll watch again, paying more attention
@@KevinJones-pj8kx never had a copper system fail. Don’t believe it.
Whenever I get around to building a house, it's going to be plumbed for central vacuum and compressed air. I'd want that air to be clean enough for breathing from a scuba tank, because among other things, I'd be using it for airbrushes. What do you need to add to this kind of compressor to make dive-quality air?
Scuba Diver here: Generally for breathing air: water and oil separator and then a filter with molecular sieves and activated charcoal or some type of all-in-one filter called triplex filter (Bauer P0 or P23 for example).
I run the opposite way here at home, I just have a scuba compressor and I use a scuba tank and pressure reducer (old first stage scuba regulator) to power my limited amount of pneumatic tools to change car tires, inflate the tires, run a grinder or cut-off wheel or just for a blow gun.
I have to revise my answer regarding the filters. I am running a Bauer P21, the smallest filter they have. For more information search for "bauer p-filter" in a search engine of your choice. Other manufacturers should have similar systems 🙂
Kaeser makes a breathing air filter pack. The air straight from the compressor is not considered safe to breathe.
Ooohh, forgot to add how exciting galvanized pipe with poor water separation can create just amazingly powerful water hammers that are just so much fun. Who doesn’t love seeing 200 pounds of steel pipe rip itself off a wall!? And the shrapnel is so much more effective than pvc! Weeeeee! Stop waiting for your coworkers to fall asleep so you can try the hand in warm water trick! Just let your air system exploding across the shop do a far better job of getting them to piss themselves. More than one at a time too!!
When my father built his body shop he designed the paint booth and the compressor housing. The compressors were on a pad outside of the building. He had the brick layer build the building the appropriate of 3.5 fee with the top row of brick were the brick turned on their side to let air into the tiny building. He put s peaked roof on it with and shingle top. There was enough room to walk around the compressors in case they needed service. The duel piston double compressors in the building ran 10 hours a day M-F for more than ten years with out needing major service. The oil and other things needed to be looked at but man those thing lasted forever and many days. They were rebuilt once after the ten or so year mark. My uncle, father, and I put all the black pipe in the building for the runs. There were dryers and filters for every work station. They came straight off the pipe perpendicular to the floor. Sorta like the Kaiser rep talked about with particulate. It was an awesome system through and through. The noise was very little and could not be heard outside of 20 feet or so from the compressor building. Behind the body shop were condos so those people would have been really not happy to hear the compressors. So the little building was pretty genius. They never got wet, snowed on, or what ever. There was a massive wooden door in the front in case you needed to replace them or take them out. He accidentally piped them in series at first lol. Then he figured out parallel is best to make sure one is not killed before the other. OK enough rambling. I am happy for you and glad to see your shop is coming together.
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Over the years I have been in industrial maintenance and working in the plastic indusrtry , I have seen what oils do to plastics over time. There is always a small part of oil that gets through the coalescing filters from the air compressor.
Good timing for me on this video. I have a new Kaeser Air Tower that's not yet installed. I first saw an Air Tower at a trade show. Ran so quiet. I just had to have one for my shop.
Brad certainly knows his stuff, and he's very good at explaining it. The more air tank capacity the better. Less compressor cycling.
The tank capacity is only a buffer not the amount you require, the amount you require comes in CFM,, cubic feet per minute, however this can be controlled by a regulator, so work out what CFM your machines required ie: 6.5 bar is the usual pressure an machine may need like a CNC for instance, then set your Regulator which should be installed directly after your receiver tank/ or buffer tank, set it to approx 7.5 bar. that will keep the whole system at 7.5 bar, so if you had a 10bar compressor your system will not require that so you control the system by the regulator, which will only let out of the tank 7.5 bar so you have a good buffer, at 10 bar, and then CFM will not come into the equation also set the pressure differential on your compressor from what kaeser normally set at 0.5 bar, to 2.0 bar. therefore your compressor will not be running on load for very long and will probably spend more time off load therefore saving energy, and running costs.
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If this guy says patented pipe technology, I'm going to scream.
edit; we're in the clear. plenty of marketing buzz words though.
Yeah you got that right. It made me chuckle when he said "...no brainer..." I feel confident that Brad's job title is something like 'Sales Engineer.' I should also say that I deal with these kinds of people all the time as almost anyone does. Pretty hard not to if you are in any way involved in purchasing decisions for your company. In Adam's case he can check off ALL the boxes as far as his role purchasing decisions go.
People like Brad are an essential part of the industrial community and, by extension, an important part of our economy. He brings ten plus years of his own expertise of designing and installing compressed air systems in all kinds of industrial settings. If you have a 'Sales Engineer' type job you will know exactly what I am talking about. Within minutes of seeing a customers facility and talking to their people you will be building out their system for them in your mind. Doesn't matter if you are computer programmer, network engineer, tool salesman, accountant, set designer, whatever. It's just what you do... it is what your company and, ultimately, the customer pay you to do.
I was going to add this as an edit but decided to say that I'm very sensitive to marketing. I spent 25 years at a convention center hearing endless keynotes and speeches.
The screw type compressor is good for TH-camrs cause it’s quieter for making videos
Reduced workplace noise is good for everyone.
i'm old school. have black pipe for many many years. i don't get debris like was mentioned. my questions would be 1. what is the pressure rating on the 1" tubing and 2. what is the size of the drilled hole.
According to their catalogue 188 PSI working and 232 PSI max, holes are 5/8 for 25 mm pipe, 7/8 for 40 and 63 mm pipes and 1-3/16 for 76 and 100 mm pipes.
@@ruben_balea Nice of you to look that up for him. I guess Google is too much to handle!
@@paulcopeland9035 Actually I only did it because I also wanted to know more details about the system 😅
Very cool thanks nice to know 👍
Adam, I question why you didn't complete the loop of the air line over the roller door
I assume air flows like water, (as in an irrigation system) if you design a system like you have for air in the shop, in water the air/water reaching the last point in the circuit will be less than the first point
If you complete the loop so air/water can have equal pressure throughout you will find you have a better system overall,
Can you please explain to me why you terminated the system EITHER side of the roller door instead of putting in a few extra metres of piping to have a better system
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
A loop is is a very good design and creates even flow to all distribution points. If one day his demand is such that this needed then it can certainly be added. This particular installation was designed with 1" tube which is more than adequate to supply his fixtures. There really was no need to spend the extra time and material on a loop system. BTW, no need to assume.....air and water both are fluid and react accordingly.
@@paulcopeland9035 well both are fluids but air is compressible, it's a very big difference especially when taking into account failure modes
@@AlessioSangalli What are "account failure modes"?
@@leocurious9919 when you have a vessel with a pressurized liquid, the moment it breaks.typically it's much less dangerous than if it contains pressurized gas.
@@AlessioSangalli that is very true. Water and air are not the same. Water runs downhill, but air will go any way it can.
Hey Adam, very nice interview with Brad. I was wondering though are those pipes just blue powder coated or do they have other colors? Not that that blue color is bad but just curiousity.
I'm obviously not Adam and as he may is to busy testing his new air system let me help you 😏
The color is the industry standard (ANSI Pipe Color Code) for compressed air lines (mentioned 1:44)
and Kaesser company sell this product only for this purpose.
You sure can get aluminum pipes powder coated in every other color just not for this system.
@@FabFunty ahh k, thanks. I forgot about the fact it would be an industry standard coloring. Appreciate the reply.
@@jeremymatthies726 Your welcome,
I'm happy I could share some of my limited knowledge in this field 😏
only way to run air lines now may be on the expense side then the then the black pipe but save time on the cost of installation quick and easy to put up and less messy too put on and twist the lock it done had one failed on the 10 year we using this system too unlock the couple and put the replace on it was quicker the screwin around with the replacement o-ring kit fix it when i had time and put the couple back on the shelve for the next time
Good information but you need to always remember: Punctuation is your friend!!
Hiya Adam
I used Pex Pipe in my shop. Cant blow up like pvc
Yeah. Super cheap. No fuss.
Pex doesn’t meet code in most area’s same as pvc
It’s interesting how much “code” you have in the country of freedom 😂
@@jesperwall839 the codes are there to protect the end user. If manufacturers of a product don’t/unable to prove that there products are safe and will not fail in a matter that someone will not be harm the product does not meet code. As many have said they installed theses products and have not had any problems, but those of us that deal with this stuff everyday can and will tell those two products are not safe. Even pex will harden (because of the lubricants in the Compressed air and will act just like pvc.
I use pex, works great, and I am sure way cheaper.
Is it rated for compressed air?
@@Kosmonooit 160psi at 78° burst rating 800psi
@@Kosmonooit ive been using 3/4" pex for 8 years now running air into my shop from the shed.. 80ft run underground and pex for distribution in the 30x40 shop with several drops and an m80 filter. have never had an issue with the pex or sharkbite fittings although my system is set at 150psi max on compressors
Sounds like a awesome system to me, have a great day everyone.
Pretty cool
Looks good. I used to work water/sewer for City and i know what he means about galvanized growing lol. But in that situation it also grows on tge outside 🤣🤣
I see that this system has a filter & water / oil separation filter and stainless drain etc.
But the remote storage tank on the roof of the office has me curious.
Will water vapour out of the air condense inside the remote storage tank as the air cools, and pool in the bottom, requiring the tank being drained at the end of each day before going home to reduce corrosion inside the storage tank?
I can see climbing a ladder every afternoon to drain the remote storage tank, becoming a big bear within the first week.
Maybe different if it was a remote servo operated drain from an electrical switch or some mechanical lever and rod device from down below, with a piped drain externally.
Just something that I am left wondering about.
I'm guessing that the big condensor on the side of the compressor (previous video) has already cooled the air by the time it hits the outlet, and the storage tank only sees cool dry air so it needs no auxiliary condensation handlers. Like I said, I'm guessing, but that's the impression I got of the reason for the fancy all-in-one compressor.
@@d00dEEE I was hoping something along the same lines, but would like to know for sure.
Here downunder all pressure vessels are only good for 10 years, unless with the larger ones where it’s not viable to junk them, they have inspection openings, and can be lead shot “rumbled” to remove rust & scale internally, then pressure tested and stamped for another 10 years.
I asked that in the previous video. An answer indicated that wasn't a problem. Like you, I would be concerned that there will be water vapor and there will be corrosion. My idea would be a line from the bottom of the tank to the sink with a 1/4 turn valve to allow for easier draining. If water is determined not to be a problem, this is overkill. I would rather have it than not.
afaik the compressor has built in cooler and dryer. so there is basically no moisture to condense in the pipes or tanks. personally i would have fitted drip legs just in case the dryer failed.
Yes, it will create a yyyyuuuuuuuuge fogbank on the shop floor, just like an Ozzy Osbourne rahk cahncert!
Love this
After watching/listening to this guy... I have a lot to chew on
Nice, but major $$$$$$
Isn't that the same system Steve Summers installed in his shop?
Good question i don't believe so but I could be mistaken.
I don’t remember the brand he got but I do remember him needing to bend the pipe with a pipe bending tool. The Kaeser pipe just uses angled couplers to achieve bends.
Steve Summers got a Maxline 3/4” kit (from Amazon, if memory serves). Aluminum with PE cover. Same shade of blue though.
Maxline Rapidair; I just looked it up. It was similar but it came in a roll and had to be straightened out.
I tell you one time Adam that scared the hell out of me had a little country store below my house they had a gas heater piumbed in with pvc i said good god man you better shut that off now its deadly he told me he didnt know
I keep telling people to NEVER use PVC for air. There are so many things that can happen. As they say, if it gets too,cold, it gets brittle. If it’s lightly by smacked by something, it explodes. But if it gets too warm, it gets soft. Then it grows a bubble and explodes. PVC gets soft enough to easily bend at just 140 degrees f. That’s not as hot as you think it is. If the joint isn’t cleaned and glued properly, it will blow apart. If it isn’t supported well, it can blow. But a big problem is the varying pressure in air, because air is, after all, compressible. Water does t vary that way. PVC is not good with a sudden rise in pressure.
I’ve seen every kind of PVC blowout. It’s not pretty. Some people claim they been using it for years without a problem. Well, good luck for them. Don’t follow their stupidity. You won’t be as lucky.
Also don’t use iron pipe. Water in the system will rust it over time. Copper is fine. I’ve done thousands of feet of that.
This comment section is just filled with boomers who are sour with industry progression as well as another man’s success. Very typical. Great content and educates why this system could be beneficial in the right industry application.
I hope Adam just ignores them all
@@kenboswell8012 I'm sure that he does - he ignores all comments. Have you ever seen him reply to a comment?
@@bobengelhardt856 Yes he may not but could still take it to heart and slowly put him off. I really hope not
@@bobengelhardt856 plus if he did reply to anyone's comment everyone will expect him to reply to everyone's comment and if he didn't then that would cause crap he don't want and need. He does read the comments because he mentions it in his vids so that's why i hope he don't take it to heart and ignore them. I love every vid he puts up so nota single complaint from me.
Boomers? Are you the smartest guy that you know? I feel sorry for you...
KAESER also is a supplier of cooling systems. You now have two "air players" in your shop.
I don't understand what you mean.
Couldn’t help but noticed that you got your tool post mounted on the lathe. 👍
Oh come on, you dont have something critical to say? Nothing about the chewing gum, or free machines, or how bad the channel is now, or how PVC is just as good??? What a strange comment!!! /s
Just wondering, did you buy this system outright or did you go with the kairfree?
Keep wondering, rude person! I'll give you a hint. Adam has 528k subscribers and over a million viewers most every episode. Manufacturers are very happy to get that amount of exposure. Toys come with that kind of presence!!
It's apparent to most of us that he has worked hard and entertained many by his videos posted on TH-cam. It takes a lot of energy and ambition to start from the beginning, not knowing your hard work will, eventually, after years, start paying off.
Also, your reply didn't even address the question, so you should keep your dark thoughts to yourself.
@@kevinkoepke8311 I have "dark thoughts"?......Cool!
" ... did you buy this ...?" HAHAHAHAHA !!!!
I just don’t know why it matters. Kaeser is a known industry leader, and adam picked a brand with sales and service nearby. It’s the same reason I bought a Quincy.
I have never seen so many negative comments on your channel Adam this video was simply not your normal content and was boring to me I'm sorry to say
The content of the video was clearly in the title and intro. Hmm, this has a very simple solution......Go away Joe.
Sorry Paul don't know how I upset you I never mentioned your name at all and I am entitled to my opinion
@@joe74ta1 I'm not upset. I just thought you might want to move along to prevent all of the boredom!
It was extremely interesting for me and for the vast majority of the other people in the comment section. It's really good information, I watched it twice already as there is much to understand.
I think its likely that Adam is getting this system, either free or at a discount from your normal customer, so I think its perfectly normal to expect a sort of "Promotional Video" that is part of the give and take with these sort of deals with influencers.
Adam you should tell Keith Rucker about the new that have ???????
Err?
@@jacknasty6940 I've no clue neither.... Looks like auto spell jumped somewhere there :> Or he was far more drunk than I'm now xD
Just agree with him. It’s better than having him spew more gibberish.
Thomas MacLean Sir.....are you high?
PVC air pipes. It’s not a matter of IF if fails, it’s a matter of WHEN it fails, and how bad it will be.
I did not see any PVC where was that?
Knick, did you actually listen to the video? It's not used here. They discussed it is all.
@@Darnic-Fab Sorry, I was simply agreeing that PVC is definitely a bad idea.
Sorry but I have had CPVC air in my shop and under my pole barn exposed to the weather for over 15 years now and never had a issue with it. I'M not saying this is a bad system on the contrary it looks like a awesome system but you know they have to say all the cons of every other system to make this system look the best.
You haven’t had a problem yet, you will. Ours lasted about 22 years before the 4” exploded.
@@RicksOutdoors Fantastic then In 4 more years I can rip it all out and spend another $50 and redo my whole shop for the next 20 years. Thanks bro you saved me. Nice to see fortune tellers watch Abom.
@@MrWizards1974 you havent bought pipe lately have you? Be prepared for sticker shock. Its crazy how expensive its become over the last year
@@GonzoDonzo LOL $7.50 for 10' of CPVC is sure going to break the bank. Stop trolling.
@@MrWizards1974 it used to be $2.50 a year ago. Learn what is trolling
Slick system... But, its missing one thing... Abby needs to paint the air tank to look like a Minion.
See Project Brupeg for their example 😁
@@MoondyneJoe That's where I got the idea... But, if you look around, it amazing at the number of outside objects painted like one.
@@estruble I thought Dame and Jess were obscure enough not to be known 😁 but great minds think alike, I have seen a few examples around as well but Brupeg was the only one who came to mind.
I can't really see Adam letting his hair down to decorating the storage tank as a Minion he possibly has a sponsorship deal with the company...
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
@@MoondyneJoe Maybe if enough viewers give him (or Abby) encouragement he'll do it. Although I'm not sure how well Adam or Abby deal with heights (I've don't remember seeing him up there before). Also, maybe I'm missing something but I didn't see any strapping to keep that tank from falling over in the event it gets bumped. But then again, I live in Northern California and everything is strapped down.
@@estruble I though Abbey was going to have a hobby/work space up there eventually? But I was same as you the distance from the eve truss they set up the tank didn't seem to have any top strap to the tank, maybe it is bolted to the top of the office?
I live in a Zone 1 earth quake zone myself here in rural Western Australia, but common sense to me is that tank falling from the height it is located could do some serious damage especially if it is full and ruptured.
Tony
Dont know why abom's comment section is so toxic. Need to be turned off or moderated in some manner. I'll admit the content has changed but its still interesting stuff that you can learn something from. Better than no content.
What was your cost? Free?
I think not to expect an answer to that from mr. Booth. 😁
He got a free muggle .. read my earlier comment for that definition.
@@silasmarner7586
Can I interest you in a course on how to copy and paste? 🧐
Prefer your more usual content, this was just like a long sales pitch by a rep
I recommend you read the title and the intro before you watch the video. It is clear what this episode is about! There is no need for a negative comment when your choice is the issue. Don't watch and you won't have to make a useless comment.
@@paulcopeland9035 Hey don't get angry I was just commenting that I prefer the stuff he's done in the past. Ultimately it is to his benefit to get feedback, positive or negative. How else are you going to know if you are putting out content that people want.
@@Phantom-mk4kp Paul thinks this is kindergarten and no one should hear negative comments lest their feelings get hurt. Pay no attention to Paul. I agree with you.
I personally found a lot of useful information in this episode. There are several of these “smart pipe” systems and most information holds true amongst them. He went into good detail on alternatives and trade-offs. That the gentleman sells a particular system is completely incidental.
He calls Adam a “jobber”
An insult in the wrestling world-Hulk Hogan would give you the leg drop for calling him that
Not sure why but him calling you a "jobber" half a dozen time got on my nerves.
Jobber is just a term for a small shop that does one-off work jobs. When I was in the automotive parts world, jobber was what we used to describe small, independent mechanics who didn't have a shop. A lot of baseline information can be relayed using that one description in the right company. I do agree though, this video isn't the right place for insider terminology.
Cool system. This guy chewing on his cud while talking was a little annoying, but informative discussion otherwise.
"cud chewing" is totally acceptable in the standard machine shop.
@@paulcopeland9035 Lol oh.
Don't understand why it's smart? It implies some intelligence.
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Bunch of jealous haters in the comments today lol.
How do you know then all? Or are you making a hater statement of your own? Thought so.
I don’t understand, “How do you know then, all?” or “How do you know, then all?”
They need some Dulcolax. And a man hug. A snuggle. A man snuggle. A ... MUGGLE!
@@silasmarner7586 Cool... I learned a new word today! I wanna know how you think these things up!
Very informative, I appreciate the content
is this new shop just for show or are you setting it up for someone else? you keep adding machines and tools but no real jobs have come out of it. the new PM would be nice to see in real action. I e been considering the similar 14x40 and i would like to see its limits.
You are riding a TH-cam influencer wave where you can choose top-end products without regard for more DIY (read: lower-end) products. I find it somewhat funny how you are populating the new shop by simply selling out (SPONSOR ME) to the top provider. Don't get me wrong; I love your machining videos, but this is a bit silly.
So people.that have the need or the will (along with the economic capability) to step up their game should just be out of luck? Too many people have silly undersized air systems and then they blame the plasma cutter when it eats through consumables. Maybe if they had a better system...
So what exactly is your complaint?
Totally agree whit you Dadatee.
@@David-lb4te And do real "Mansized" machining
@@David-lb4te Complete agree David. I absolutely love CEE....every video is real machining, problem solving, and welding. No nonsense. I wouldn't mind the "hidden agenda" here so much if it wasn't hidden....but it is.
So is doing advertising for machines and equipment all you do now?
Viewers could pay via patreon if they didn't want the money to come from elsewhere, or wait till the shop has been setup. Et cetera, et cetera.... Lots of content out there if something isn't interesting 😉
The business model for trade based shows (This Old House, etc) is for manufacturers to purchase "air time". The content is generally wrapped up in an educational style video that helps you learn about both the product and the general practice in the industry. This is a smart move for Adam, he can generate more revenue, create more videos, purchase more machines and generally do more. This content is still very good and very insteresting.
Adam has half a million subscribers. In exchange for some airtime he gets some cool gear for the shop at a discount (presumably). I don’t see the problem.
@@pythagoras2647 I would gladly join his patreon if it meant he would go back to posting cool projects like he used to.
@@Tjkrusinski Smart, but he still needs an apprentice. All those sweet machines sitting idle because there's only 1 operator and 2-3 small jobs a week must be some kind of a crime.
Getting tired of the infomercials.
But not so tired so that you could still click on the play button?😉
Troll
@HereticalBuilder Getting tired of the whiners.
@@edstuff1198 Do you think Adam is doing these types of videos out of the goodness of his heart? He is receiving substantial financial benefits from these companies in return for his endorsement. He is also receiving a lot of money from TH-cam because people like us watch his channel. So, as the end consumer of his product, how is it "whining" to express my displeasure about the content?
Sub for many years. I used to be a patreon supporter of the channel. Even met the guy once in person. It now seems to be half advertising, with more emphasis on influenceer over actual content.
Adam? I don't think so.
A mans gota eat bro. If you don't like this type of video don't watch it I guess.
He’s setting up a new shop and investing in growing his tools, this is relevant content. Welcome to youtube.
Looks like your trying to get all the free tools you can and not making chips any more.
I think he will get back to it once the shop is established. Hopefully. Or viewers will leave.
He's not making chips annnnnnyyy m-m-m-m-ooooooooreeeeee! OOOohhhhhhhhhhh winky dinky dinkle dankle DONK!
@@silasmarner7586 Sir.....are you high?
I find it really discriminatory when every, but really every product from America is postulated as "Made in US". Just tell the truth that KAESER is a German company.
Don't think they went there .....
The common thing nowadays is designed in America. Often then made in China.
@@jemijona Yep like Rotary Lifts, Proposed to be American but are Fabricated in Italy, and assembled in China and carries a made in china badge. I've intalled many and there does seem to be a need for numerous adapters for fittings to adapt fro or to Metric and imperial fittings.
Like Kaeser, in the uk thay are branded as HPC, but i must point out that only the air end is basically manufactured in Germany. the rest of the components are made in various countries.
Somehow this episode looks like 22min and 26sec advert := Oh well.... You do whatever you have to do := Next time add AD in title please. Thanks. + If you have "industrial" business you're going straight away to FESTO and ABB without man in the middle.
He literally did just what you're complaining about.
What are you typing? Sir......are you high?
@@paulcopeland9035 High? No. Drunk? Fck yes. Does it makes a difference?
@@bevis71 nope,enjoy!
PEX pipe SharkBite or Swedge fitting probably ten times cheaper just as good for just as long. Overrated over-engineered overpriced. Less is always more
pex works for sure. We use pex-al-pex because it stays straight during install
It makes me sad, this channel, for years my 100% favorite, is now at least 50% thinly veiled commercials. I think it's great that Adam gets (what I assume to be) free stuff. I like Adam and sincerely wish him well. It just isn't very interesting to watch.
I think a big part of it is that hes transitioning in his life. He has a good wife, some success, and he just has more important things at this time in his life. Ive been watching for years as well and i dont know about you but i used to get the feeling he was only in the shop because it was preferable to the alternative. Im sure weve all been there in a relationship
@@GonzoDonzo I definitely have been. I'm just afraid Adam's sawing off the branch he's sitting on, in terms of his TH-cam success. For quite some time, I've remained subscribed and diligently watched the videos just because I like Adam and think he is a genuinely good guy, even though the channel has less and less of the content that brought me here in the first place. That only goes so far, and I realize nothing ever stays the same.
I would assume that the Kaeser system is far more expensive than a simple 1/2" PEX system. I understand that as a TH-cam influencer (Abom79) you benefit from sponsorship, but you are clearly selling out for your own benefit; "look at all my new 'free' toys". Shame on you.
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anything he receives free and is used like this in a video has to be declared on his income tax.
start a channel of your own then. when you cross that influencer line, just remember you don't deserve anything for all your hard work.
It takes a very small person to be upset at another's success. The shame is all yours.
I would assume that a simple 1/2 PEX system is not enough for all shops. Then one need look for other options. Let' assume tht among 0.5 million viewers there is quite a few in need of a larger, proffesional airsystem. sitting with a simple low cost system, that not fit one's needs, is no big help
Threaded pipe can easily have drip legs installed, just as is standard practice in natural gas usage that can allow space for stuff to fall out of the gas flow. Plumbed a lot of gas lines and not much beats copper and compression fittings,mean handle a pressure well in access of what standard compressors are putting out. Actually seeing an increase in PEX usage in air systems as it’s more cost effective that rigid options and is much safer than PVC; don’t use PVC it just doesn’t hold up and can low if impacted. If you’re using PEX make sure you’re using PEX-A and not PEX-B or PEX-C.
PEX doesn't meet code. Sorry for the annoying "code" reference, but it is truth! I know PEX and it seems you know the product, but it is not approved for high pressure air lines. I know people are using more and more of it but it is sketchy under high air pressure and susceptible to UV! It is best not to trust the stuff for this application.
@@paulcopeland9035: How about a code citation regarding the “code reference” because a belief on something being against code isn’t it actual being against code; PEX is used for air in a lot of areas replacing PVC and outside of perhaps a few places like NYC most compressed air systems aren’t covered under building codes.
@@libertarian1637 Insurance is a driving force in the "code game".
You were once the best channel on TH-cam. Not anymore. This channel is declining rapidly.
Bye Bye
Lol what?
You’re still watching.
Yup!
What a cheesy sales speech
Thanks for sharing
somebody tell this guy we are in the US, we use the imperial system, not metric.
Dinosaur
If you paid attention, he used both
I live in the US and I've actually learned the metric system, personally I prefer it over imperial. Even the UK uses metric now, guess where we got our imperial system from. :-)
Kaiser is an international company selling around the world and since everyone except USA use metric it makes sense they make their product suit the majority of the customer base.
It`s only the US that uses the imperial system the rest of the world uses metric. and have been for donkey's years now.
I have always run drops off the overhead main line straight up for about six to eight inches, two ells coming down, to wherever they needed to go.
That's just in case the dryer quit working.
Also, I always put a dirt leg on every drop with a ball valve at the bottom - especially at sensitive equipment.
Dropping straight down off an overhead main in just asking for trouble, and those dirt legs can give you a quick health check up on your system.