Thank you very much, guys. I've been having this issue for the past 3 years, using E46 handbrake shoes on my E36 M3. My braking effort was just about 15%, just enough to pass the technical inspection, but I always wanted to sort it out for good. And I only heard rumors of welding E46 shoes onto E36 brackets, but could never find more info on it. Thank you for confirming it with a detailed video!
Wow, really nice, im wanting to do a project e36, and thinking about brakes from e46 330d, was thinking about the handbreak, this Is really good. Thanks. Saved the video 🙃
Great video! I'm about the do the swap on my E36 325i track car. Was a very helpful video to see how its done. I'm getting some adaptor plates made up for the rear handbrake shoes, but if they don't arrive i'll use your hack to make them work :)
No they are not , the curve of the shoes are totally different than the rear rotors of 330i . I think i mention that in the video , but with my english is hard to understand all :D
I know, old post; but perhaps yall know the answer. I've read on internet that the e46 330i rear trailing arms are the same as an e36 M3 but cant find confirmation on this rumor. So, do you know if the e46 rear trailing arm is the same as an e36 M3? If yes, could you not grab the rear trailing arms from a salvage yard e46 330i with the e'brake hardware, and install them on the e36?
Awesome video 👍 I have bought an e46 330 complete donor car for my e36, I have done the front brake upgrade but I'm running drums on the rear still, can I upgrade the rear using the e46 rear discs and calipers?
Actually not 100% sure , but you probably going to need trailing arms from E36 with rear discs , because you will not have were to tighter the rear brake carrier . They are not so expensive second hand so nothing scary there
@Crank Hi, I am very lost here, I’m trying to also convert but not sure if I got the right parts, as I’ve bought the hardware and expanding locks E46, Is that correct? And do you weld e36 shoe on top of the e46 or the other way around? Any input could help, thanks
Crank Do I use the E46 or e36 expanding locks? And is there anything else I would need? Ebrake cable? Thank you for your response, it is very helpful, much appreciated
Привет, ще го карам направо на Българси :D Подготвям една 36ца в момента за тайм атак, като дойде и реда на спирачките. Тъй като искам да запазя спирачния баланс, решил съм направо да слагам предни и задни дискове и апарати от 330ка, като съм намерил и донор кола. Въпроса ми е: - трябва ли да взема нещо от 46цата освен апаратите и дисковете? По това което виждам от видеото, трябва да взема и това което наричате "handbrake shoe". Как му се вика на това на наш език? :D Също, това ли са размерите на дисковете от 330ката: отпред: 325х25, отзад 320х22? В бъдеще като купувам други дискове, трябва да търся този размер до колкото разбирам. Мерси предварително
По памет това бяха размерите да . Ако ще е само за писта колата , по-добре сложи хидравлична ръчна и махни изцяло челюстите и хардуера към тях . Ако ще я караш и ежедневно , ти трябват челюстите от Е46цата за да може да завариш основите от Е36цата под тях . Принципно ако сложиш шенкела от Е46цата , директно може да прехвърлиш всичко plug and play ама не съм го правил и незнам дали е толкова просто .
54 is the diameter of the brake piston , 22 is the width of the brake disc . If you are talking about the front ones , if i remember right , they were 57 / 22 and the rear ones were 42 / 22 .
ok awesome thanks so much! after looking online and from what you say, i think the ones this guy is trying sell me is from a 325i. ill just keep looking for a set that say 57.25
А трябва ли всъщност да ъпгрейдна и задните дискове от 330 ? в смисъл такъв, ако не ги сменя, а просто си сменя накладките на оригиналните, ще има ли пак дисбаланс в спирането ?
ATE ползваме , не помня колко струваха , може би 100-150 лв бройката . Ами освен ако не караш на лимита , не мисля че ще го усетиш този дисбаланс , така че може да си останеш и с твойте .
Thank you very much, guys. I've been having this issue for the past 3 years, using E46 handbrake shoes on my E36 M3. My braking effort was just about 15%, just enough to pass the technical inspection, but I always wanted to sort it out for good. And I only heard rumors of welding E46 shoes onto E36 brackets, but could never find more info on it.
Thank you for confirming it with a detailed video!
The rear brakes from an e46 325i/328i (294x19)rotors will work with the oem ebrake.
Thanks for the tip mate 👍
Can you still upgrade to a 330i caliper but use the 325i / 328i disc?
@@loosevalvesit’s going to mess up your brake ratio. Best for E36 chassis is E46 330i front and E46 325i in the rear, for best brake ratio.
nice slav hack bro :D 9:14
Do u even slav dude :D
Wow, really nice, im wanting to do a project e36, and thinking about brakes from e46 330d, was thinking about the handbreak, this Is really good. Thanks. Saved the video 🙃
The quality and the language used in this video is terrible, but still I'm happy that their are people who like it
Nice video, kind regards from your 1000st subscriber!
Thanks Patrick !
This made my day :)
Great video! I'm about the do the swap on my E36 325i track car. Was a very helpful video to see how its done. I'm getting some adaptor plates made up for the rear handbrake shoes, but if they don't arrive i'll use your hack to make them work :)
Im also planning on doing the conversion, what adaptor plates are you getting made?
who makes the adapters?
Where did you get the adapters
What about main brakes cylinder (i guess thats how its called)? Did u keep it stock or switched to 330i? e.g. I have 320i brake system.
We left the stock one , it is good enough
Did you keep the E36 brake calipers on the front or did you swap them with the 330i ones ?
I read somewhere the E36 M3 hand brake pads are perfect fitment for E46 330i rear rotors.
No they are not , the curve of the shoes are totally different than the rear rotors of 330i . I think i mention that in the video , but with my english is hard to understand all :D
your english is better then some native speakers lol
you should see how canjuns speak 'engrliush'
e36 m3 = 180mm, e46 330 and M3 = 185mm. e46 325 and 328 = 160mm
Здравей,
Обмислям същия ъпгрейд, може ли да се използва ръчната от Е36 или трябва да е от Е46?
Благодаря!
I know, old post; but perhaps yall know the answer. I've read on internet that the e46 330i rear trailing arms are the same as an e36 M3 but cant find confirmation on this rumor. So, do you know if the e46 rear trailing arm is the same as an e36 M3? If yes, could you not grab the rear trailing arms from a salvage yard e46 330i with the e'brake hardware, and install them on the e36?
I'm pretty sure that they are not the same.
Did u use the original brake shields from e36 and just flatten them out? :)
We cut off the curved area
Where did you weld it at and how?
Awesome video 👍 I have bought an e46 330 complete donor car for my e36, I have done the front brake upgrade but I'm running drums on the rear still, can I upgrade the rear using the e46 rear discs and calipers?
Sure , you are probably going to need just a new brake hoses
Crank thanks for your reply bro! So I just need to swap everything from the e46 rear brakes onto the e36 rear hubs?
Actually not 100% sure , but you probably going to need trailing arms from E36 with rear discs , because you will not have were to tighter the rear brake carrier . They are not so expensive second hand so nothing scary there
Crank thank you for your advice bud, Il get the tools out and see how i get on 👍
you will need a rear differential of a 323/325/328i e36 with axle then you can install these brakes
It's better to swap to bigger Backing Plates.
But you must remove the hub :(
@Crank
Hi, I am very lost here, I’m trying to also convert but not sure if I got the right parts, as I’ve bought the hardware and expanding locks E46, Is that correct?
And do you weld e36 shoe on top of the e46 or the other way around?
Any input could help, thanks
E46 shoe top E36 bottom
you don't need the hardware from the E46 handbrake , you are going to use your hardware from E36
Crank
Do I use the E46 or e36 expanding locks?
And is there anything else I would need?
Ebrake cable?
Thank you for your response, it is very helpful, much appreciated
You need to use everything from the E36 and only the shoes from the E46
Crank
Once again thank you for getting back to me, now I can move on to finish this conversion. You da man Crank!
I would like to do same thing, upgrade my E46 320ci brakes for E46 330i brake, BUT! It´s possible to do same "hack" with hand brake? :-)
e46 to e46 are like, no problem swapping over ;)
Привет, ще го карам направо на Българси :D Подготвям една 36ца в момента за тайм атак, като дойде и реда на спирачките. Тъй като искам да запазя спирачния баланс, решил съм направо да слагам предни и задни дискове и апарати от 330ка, като съм намерил и донор кола. Въпроса ми е:
- трябва ли да взема нещо от 46цата освен апаратите и дисковете? По това което виждам от видеото, трябва да взема и това което наричате "handbrake shoe". Как му се вика на това на наш език? :D
Също, това ли са размерите на дисковете от 330ката: отпред: 325х25, отзад 320х22? В бъдеще като купувам други дискове, трябва да търся този размер до колкото разбирам.
Мерси предварително
По памет това бяха размерите да . Ако ще е само за писта колата , по-добре сложи хидравлична ръчна и махни изцяло челюстите и хардуера към тях . Ако ще я караш и ежедневно , ти трябват челюстите от Е46цата за да може да завариш основите от Е36цата под тях . Принципно ако сложиш шенкела от Е46цата , директно може да прехвърлиш всичко plug and play ама не съм го правил и незнам дали е толкова просто .
@@crank3646 ясно, най-вероятно ще ги махна и сложа хидравлична ръчна тогава. Мерси много за инфото :)
what is the part number on the caliper? the ones i want to buy say BMW 54/22 are they 330i calipers? thanks
54 is the diameter of the brake piston , 22 is the width of the brake disc . If you are talking about the front ones , if i remember right , they were 57 / 22 and the rear ones were 42 / 22 .
ok awesome thanks so much! after looking online and from what you say, i think the ones this guy is trying sell me is from a 325i. ill just keep looking for a set that say 57.25
does it have to be specifically 330i? or does 330ic work?
You mean 330 ci ? There is no difference
How are the rear handbrakes holding up?
Its still OK for now :)
Guys, what sizes brake hoses u are using ? Im going to upgrade my brake system..
We are using the stock ones , from the 318is
А трябва ли всъщност да ъпгрейдна и задните дискове от 330 ? в смисъл такъв, ако не ги сменя, а просто си сменя накладките на оригиналните, ще има ли пак дисбаланс в спирането ?
И каква марка дискове ползвате от 46-цата ? Колко пари е парчето ? За предните дискове става въпрос.
ATE ползваме , не помня колко струваха , може би 100-150 лв бройката . Ами освен ако не караш на лимита , не мисля че ще го усетиш този дисбаланс , така че може да си останеш и с твойте .
@ 8:12 WTF ??