What an enlightening feast this lesson was! I am 80 years old, an active member all my life, and NEVER saw Zenos' allegory in Lehi's dream/vision!! Thank you all for such profound teaching!!!!
Really enjoy listening to Gaye. She brings a calm in the storm and presents things in a real and sincere way. She is an incredible teacher. This left me with new things to ponder. Thank you all for your thoughts and for sharing!
I watch/listen to Follow Him at the end of my week studying the Come, Follow Me assignments. At the beginning of the week I noticed the olive tree being mentioned for the first time in my life. Then, while listening to Follow Him this week it all came together. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have read the Book of Mormon every day for over 50 years, and I just love learning new things. I'm so grateful for this program.
What an incredible episode! I have in my margins from a previous Book of Mormon study this quote from Neal A. Maxwell, “To partake of the love of God is to partake of Jesus’s Atonement,”. Gaye’s insights are a second witness to this truth. What a blessing to have her teach us!
I love her honesty about spending time herself in each of the four groups on any given day depending on what is going on in life. This resonates with me.
Sis. Srathearn insights are truly remarkable. I love the way she shows how chapter 8 is explained by chapter 10and how it relates to Zenos' allegory and to the Fall, and the Atonement. Great Session.
Love this lesson! Love Sister Strathearn and Hank & John. These podcasts are so enriching, so encouraging, so faith-promoting. Thank you all for your efforts on our behalf. The Lord has blessed us all.
Thank you! All three of you! I feel like Hank! Wow! There are so many insights & Aha moments! But from each of you. I miss church often from chronic pain, illness, lack of sleep, etc. Oh how I've come to praise God in His grand foresight to urge members to go online & use their unique voice to teach, exhort, encourage & testify of the truths found in the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ! This has opened the way for our spiritual survival during shut downs of all causes. Thank you for becoming a vital addition to my personal "cloud of witnesses." May God bless & keep you & yours. 🙏❤😇
I have listened to this episode twice now. I am thrilled with what I have learned. Thank you each for an amazing discussion. You all shared wonderful insights into the life of Lehi and his family, Zenos' allegory of the Olive trees, and Lehi's own interpretation of his own dream or vision. In all the times I have read chapter 10 I have never seen it for what it is. And now, after listening to this episode with Sister Strathearn, it seems there is no other way for me to see this chapter. I'm looking forward to study Jacob 5 now! Thank you again! And thanks to everyone involved in making these Follow Him episodes happen! They truly bless my life, the lives of my family members, and the youth I teach in Sunday School.
I came across this podcast visiting another ward in Australia during Christmas. How grateful I am to now have this podcast to better help me with Come Follow Me for the week. This is amazing!!!
Gaye Strathearn is a tremendous blessing to me in helping me understand this part of the Book of Mormon. I m so thankful for all your podcasts and guests.
After having spent some time, on and off, in the spacious building……. The appeal becomes almost repulsive to my seeking soul. Thank you all so much for all of the time and insights you share each week ❣️🌟
Oh my goodness this episode was INCREDIBLE!!! I had Dr Strathearn when I was a freshman at BYU and she blew me away then too with all her insights. So many things I’d never even considered!! Thank you so much for having her on❤
I love how Dr Strathern talks about when she haa questions that are unanswered, instead of saying I walk away, she stays in the hope of evetually having those questions answered. I too have been overwhelmed with the idea of eternity, but I have faith that one day full understanding will come. For now, an alternative to eternity, where existence ends doesn't make sense. Thank you for these amazing podcasts each week. It has beautifully enhanced my study of the scriptures.😊
Love the analogy of eating of the fruit until we are full. Not just tasting. In order to stay full, we have to keep partaking, over and over. To do this we have to STAY by the tree feasting in the words of Christ.
Oh my goodness. This has been so exciting to learn. I am going re listen to it again. I love when I am spiritually fed and feel the excitement of learning the "mysteries" . I really have enjoyed when you have had Gaye on before.
I think Lehi sets the pattern as to our interest in the building. He has been partaking and feasting on the fruit, has searched anxiously for his family so they can partake, and seen many of the surrounding features, but it isn’t until he sees those who have partaken and then are distracted by the mocking and scornful taunts that he first sees the building. It was there all the time, but he was too immersed in the joy and love he felt to look anywhere else. As was suggested in the podcast, we need to be constantly feasting so our memory of the deliciousness of the fruit doesn’t fade and lead us to look elsewhere to satisfy our hunger.
Thinking about the effects of the scorning from the great and spacious building reminds me of this quote from Dan Ellsworth in Public Square Magazine: “Most psychologists understand that human beings’ rationality is employed in the service of our intuitions and not the other way around. Our logic and reason generally don’t point us to what is true; they serve to reinforce things we believe to be true for non-rational, intuitive reasons… The power of accusation lies in its ability to poison our intuitions, which then leads our powers of logic and reason to be employed in the service of those poisoned intuitions. In the Book of Mormon, this process is allegorized in Lehi’s vision, where messaging from the great and spacious building leaves believers ashamed (a non-rational state of mind) and therefore unable to employ the same thought processes that had once been leading them toward the tree of life. Religious disaffection is usually a negative reprocessing of one’s past based on intuitions that have become poisoned by accusation.
So sorry no one brought you the sacrament . My son brought to me a few times as his father is not a member. Happy you made it through. Now I must listen again about Zenos and the tree. I am a slow learner. Thank you.!
I keep on thinking each week- “This is the best episode”.but it keeps getting better on the next and the next etc. I so enjoy the insight of each of the presenters. Thank you so much for what you do- as someone who is still clinging to the iron rod with the midst of darkness daily around (Lahaina fire survivor) this helps me keep on keeping on.
Thank you for all the extra insights & connections about Lehi’s vision & his perspective on what he was worrying about (unbelieving sons) & what he was possibly studying to lead to that dream. The relations are great! I also loved Dr Strathearns example of Covid Sacraments at home being a possible example of a “mist” on the rod. And loved the conversation story of the missionary who works at a prison telling his story & testifying of the blessings of the gospel. Ty!!
This was wonderful. Thank you. I learned so many things I had never thought of before. The gospel fits together like perfect puzzles pieces into one beautiful picture.
Insightful Podcast. There is something I pray for when studying, that those hero's in the chapter may mingle about me, I know that the Holy Ghost does miraculous miracles, I am never alone, for I have felt them by me often. Dear Gaye, I've enjoyed your knowledge and humble manner of teaching for many many years, you have a sweet and gentle presence which is comforting and peaceful, I'm pleasantly relaxed as you and your colleagues explain and discuss the Scriptires. Every day as I study, I do as Elder David Bednar said in a conference talk, pray for a daily conversion, for one can have a testimony and still fall away, Thank you Hank and John you are so humble and warm. L
This podcast motivates me to study the scriptures more deeply. I try to listen every week and appreciate all the wonderful insights the hosts and the guests provide. Thank you!
I could relate to Sister Strathearn as she spoke of The challenge of being alone through COVID and unable to join with the saints communally to partake of the sacrament. Certainly was a dark time for many..
Over the past year, this thought has been recurring in my mind. "There is nothing we can break that God cannot fix". I think this is one of the reasons that we rejoiced when the plan was presented to us. It also reminds me of covenant, which is inherently a breaking and a mending.
Beautiful truths shared in this episode with SO many wonderful insights to ponder! Thank you for the time you all spend to prepare to help us learn! I love the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the truths within the Book of Mormon 🌻🐞
Today as I reread 1 Nephi 8, I saw a connection between Lehi praying after he had be in the darkness for a space of many hours and then being able to see the tree with Helaman 5 and those that were surrounded be a midst of darkness and it was removed after they prayed.
Great content a fun side note on the mists of darkness... apparently the Bedouin have a colloquial term when a sandstorm meets a cool moist air inversion off...most of darkness...it blots out the sun removes all visibility and makes it hard to breath...worst of both worlds...sand storms are bad enough, mists are disorienting enough...mists of darkness are devastating...which I think is something we all come across at varying stages of life...we experience sandstorms and mists and we learn how to survive them...but then when all the conditions aline in life and all our resources aren't good enough we only have one source to fall on...mists of darkness are those moments where all that we learned no longer fits or serves what we are experiencing...where do we go in those moments ...who do we draw to when nothing fits or makes sense.
Joseph Smith Senior had a similar dream/vision. His description of partaking of the fruit and how delightful it was is a little more intense. I could feel a little deeper how wonderful partaking of the fruit might be. He said he and his family (all 7 children) were eating so abundantly that they were using both hands to consume it. It made an impression on me that the Lehi/Nephi versions didn't. Joseph Smith, Sr.'s version/dream was in the book, The Book of Mormon made easier by David Ridges.
@3:00 I was surprised that there wasn't any discussion here about the environment that Lehi came from. Lehi's family left Jerusalem at the beginning of the first year of the rein of Zedekiah. At that time, he had 4 sons, and though Nephi doesn’t tell us his exact age, I think we can infer from the text that he was at least in his mid-teen considering that he describes himself as “young”, “large in stature”, and he was able to pass for Laban, who was obviously an adult. So, Let’s say that Lehi is about 50 years old. That means that Lehi’s formative years would have been during the reign of Josiah (640-609 B.C.), and his children would have come of age during the reign of Jehoiakim (609-598 B.C.) In the context of the contrast between the reigns of Josiah (described as a righteous king) and Jehoiakim (described as a heretical tyrant and puppet of the Pharaoh) in Kings and Chronicles, I think some of the symbols in Lehi’s dream become clearer. The great and spacious building might be representative of the doctrine of the temple becoming corrupt (i.e. the pride of the world). Eventually, as described in chapter 11, the corrupted temple falls. The fountain or river of water could represent the Gihon spring which flows to the Pool of Siloam; thus, the filthiness of the water would represent that the temple, and by extension, the worship of God, has become corrupted and dangerous. The iron rod obviously represents the Word of God, which was rediscovered and reinforced by Josiah, but the mist of darkness (which obscures the iron rod) could represent the reign of Jehoiakim and the Babylonian captivity where the Word of God and the path to the tree of life was obscured by the corruption of the scriptures. For example, we know that the writings of Zenos were lost (or removed) during the Babylonian captivity. There is so much more symbolism having to do with the temple and the reforms of Josiah, but this comment is already too long...
Going forward with the plan of salvation analogy found in the tree of life… fall (darkness)-atonement (tree) are the 4 groups maybe representing the 3 degrees of glory described in d&C 76 and maybe the 4th group is outer darkness or the seeds on the wayside or those who only sought the spacious building ? Not sure but maybe
It goes to show that Zeno's Allegory of the Olive Tree was lost in the Old Testament as we see it today. I wonder if Lehi had a dream or vision of our day seeing those of his seeds coming forth in this latter days. The Seeds of Laman and Lemuel.
We are not nobody's. We are all somebody's. (Glass half empty, half full I guess) Our Heavenly Father created man in his own image. Let's go forward in gratefulness and positivity and intentionally and contribute.
They are in the same document as Part 1. followhim.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/BM-03-Dr.-Gaye-Strathearn-1-Nephi-6-10-followHIM-Podcast-SHOW-NOTES.pdf
During Covid, why did she not ask the missionaries or her minister to bring the sacrament to her home? Neil Maxwell - "Hold on to the iron rod with two hands"
Missionaries aren't allowed to go into the homes of single sisters, no matter their age. The rule is wrong, especially for elderly widows. I am in a part member family, my mum and I didn't receive the Sacrament for months and months 😢
@@sharonjohnson7458because some brethren forget us singles and don't think outside of the box, unlike your ministering brother and family who were inspired to do so.
The reason I posed the question, is that there is a display of statues being prepared to be displayed at the gardens at Thanksgiving Point depicting the tree of life. Among the people in the great and spacious building is a child who has been abused. This has really bothered me that she would be in there. No where in the Book of Mormon can I find anything that would suggest that.
What an enlightening feast this lesson was! I am 80 years old, an active member all my life, and NEVER saw Zenos' allegory in Lehi's dream/vision!! Thank you all for such profound teaching!!!!
Really enjoy listening to Gaye. She brings a calm in the storm and presents things in a real and sincere way. She is an incredible teacher. This left me with new things to ponder. Thank you all for your thoughts and for sharing!
I watch/listen to Follow Him at the end of my week studying the Come, Follow Me assignments. At the beginning of the week I noticed the olive tree being mentioned for the first time in my life. Then, while listening to Follow Him this week it all came together. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have read the Book of Mormon every day for over 50 years, and I just love learning new things. I'm so grateful for this program.
What an incredible episode! I have in my margins from a previous Book of Mormon study this quote from Neal A. Maxwell, “To partake of the love of God is to partake of Jesus’s Atonement,”. Gaye’s insights are a second witness to this truth. What a blessing to have her teach us!
I love her honesty about spending time herself in each of the four groups on any given day depending on what is going on in life. This resonates with me.
Absolutely! It’s a magnificent recognition.
Excellent insights today! Thank you!
Sis. Srathearn insights are truly remarkable. I love the way she shows how chapter 8 is explained by chapter 10and how it relates to Zenos' allegory and to the Fall, and the Atonement. Great Session.
Love this lesson! Love Sister Strathearn and Hank & John. These podcasts are so enriching, so encouraging, so faith-promoting. Thank you all for your efforts on our behalf. The Lord has blessed us all.
Thank you! All three of you! I feel like Hank! Wow! There are so many insights & Aha moments! But from each of you.
I miss church often from chronic pain, illness, lack of sleep, etc. Oh how I've come to praise God in His grand foresight to urge members to go online & use their unique voice to teach, exhort, encourage & testify of the truths found in the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ!
This has opened the way for our spiritual survival during shut downs of all causes.
Thank you for becoming a vital addition to my personal "cloud of witnesses." May God bless & keep you & yours. 🙏❤😇
I have listened to this episode twice now. I am thrilled with what I have learned. Thank you each for an amazing discussion. You all shared wonderful insights into the life of Lehi and his family, Zenos' allegory of the Olive trees, and Lehi's own interpretation of his own dream or vision. In all the times I have read chapter 10 I have never seen it for what it is. And now, after listening to this episode with Sister Strathearn, it seems there is no other way for me to see this chapter. I'm looking forward to study Jacob 5 now! Thank you again! And thanks to everyone involved in making these Follow Him episodes happen! They truly bless my life, the lives of my family members, and the youth I teach in Sunday School.
Just when you think you understand, the Spirit teaches something new. This was an awesome episode ❤
Every episode is my favorite, but 3, part 2 with Dr. Gaye is most excellent!
I came across this podcast visiting another ward in Australia during Christmas. How grateful I am to now have this podcast to better help me with Come Follow Me for the week. This is amazing!!!
Thank you all, just wonderful 😊
Gaye Strathearn is a tremendous blessing to me in helping me understand this part of the Book of Mormon. I m so thankful for all your podcasts and guests.
Sister Stratham You are a wonderful woman! Thanks to you all for helping me get closer to Jesus!
I have been fed and now share with others! Thank you Gaye for your impeccable insights!
After having spent some time, on and off, in the spacious building……. The appeal becomes almost repulsive to my seeking soul. Thank you all so much for all of the time and insights you share each week ❣️🌟
Oh my goodness this episode was INCREDIBLE!!! I had Dr Strathearn when I was a freshman at BYU and she blew me away then too with all her insights. So many things I’d never even considered!! Thank you so much for having her on❤
I love how Dr Strathern talks about when she haa questions that are unanswered, instead of saying I walk away, she stays in the hope of evetually having those questions answered. I too have been overwhelmed with the idea of eternity, but I have faith that one day full understanding will come. For now, an alternative to eternity, where existence ends doesn't make sense. Thank you for these amazing podcasts each week. It has beautifully enhanced my study of the scriptures.😊
Love the analogy of eating of the fruit until we are full. Not just tasting. In order to stay full, we have to keep partaking, over and over. To do this we have to STAY by the tree feasting in the words of Christ.
Oh my goodness. This has been so exciting to learn. I am going re listen to it again. I love when I am spiritually fed and feel the excitement of learning the "mysteries" . I really have enjoyed when you have had Gaye on before.
Loved this...truly a feast! Thank you all
I love that when they receive the record it was decribed as "desirable" just as the fruit in the vision.
I think Lehi sets the pattern as to our interest in the building. He has been partaking and feasting on the fruit, has searched anxiously for his family so they can partake, and seen many of the surrounding features, but it isn’t until he sees those who have partaken and then are distracted by the mocking and scornful taunts that he first sees the building. It was there all the time, but he was too immersed in the joy and love he felt to look anywhere else. As was suggested in the podcast, we need to be constantly feasting so our memory of the deliciousness of the fruit doesn’t fade and lead us to look elsewhere to satisfy our hunger.
I appreciate you sharing this insight. Thank you.🙂
Fantastic comment! Thank you.
Another fantastic lesson! Thanks Hank, John, and Gaye!!!
Excellent, excellent, and did I mention it was excellent?? This is one I will be watching over and over. Thanks to you all.
I have loved this and I love sister Strathearn
Thinking about the effects of the scorning from the great and spacious building reminds me of this quote from Dan Ellsworth in Public Square Magazine: “Most psychologists understand that human beings’ rationality is employed in the service of our intuitions and not the other way around. Our logic and reason generally don’t point us to what is true; they serve to reinforce things we believe to be true for non-rational, intuitive reasons…
The power of accusation lies in its ability to poison our intuitions, which then leads our powers of logic and reason to be employed in the service of those poisoned intuitions. In the Book of Mormon, this process is allegorized in Lehi’s vision, where messaging from the great and spacious building leaves believers ashamed (a non-rational state of mind) and therefore unable to employ the same thought processes that had once been leading them toward the tree of life. Religious disaffection is usually a negative reprocessing of one’s past based on intuitions that have become poisoned by accusation.
Mind blown. Thank you so much! ❤
So sorry no one brought you the sacrament . My son brought to me a few times as his father is not a member. Happy you made it through. Now I must listen again about Zenos and the tree. I am a slow learner. Thank you.!
I keep on thinking each week- “This
is the best episode”.but it keeps getting better on the next and the next etc. I so enjoy the insight of each of the presenters. Thank you so much for what you do- as someone who is still clinging to the iron rod with the midst of darkness daily around (Lahaina fire survivor) this helps me keep on keeping on.
I appreciate everyone's efforts in helping me Follow Him.
Thank you for all the extra insights & connections about Lehi’s vision & his perspective on what he was worrying about (unbelieving sons) & what he was possibly studying to lead to that dream. The relations are great! I also loved Dr Strathearns example of Covid Sacraments at home being a possible example of a “mist” on the rod. And loved the conversation story of the missionary who works at a prison telling his story & testifying of the blessings of the gospel. Ty!!
Amazing gospel insight to feast on!
This was wonderful. Thank you. I learned so many things I had never thought of before. The gospel fits together like perfect puzzles pieces into one beautiful picture.
Insightful Podcast. There is something I pray for when studying, that those hero's in the chapter may mingle about me, I know that the Holy Ghost does miraculous miracles, I am never alone, for I have felt them by me often.
Dear Gaye, I've enjoyed your knowledge and humble manner of teaching for many many years, you have a sweet and gentle presence which is comforting and peaceful, I'm pleasantly relaxed as you and your colleagues explain and discuss the Scriptires.
Every day as I study, I do as Elder David Bednar said in a conference talk, pray for a daily conversion, for one can have a testimony and still fall away,
Thank you Hank and John you are so humble and warm.
L
This podcast motivates me to study the scriptures more deeply. I try to listen every week and appreciate all the wonderful insights the hosts and the guests provide. Thank you!
The Book of Mormon is awesome!
WOW, I have been taught pure doctrine!
Thank you, I like Hank and John feel like have just feasted on the Word. Beautiful. I can't wait to share these thoughts to solidify them in my mind.
I could relate to Sister Strathearn as she spoke of The challenge of being alone through COVID and unable to join with the saints communally to partake of the sacrament. Certainly was a dark time for many..
It sure was 😢. No receiving of the Sacrament either for me and mum. Horrible times.
DGS is such a great, listenable guest. Thank you all.
Awesome! Thanks to the Holy Spirit to be with all of you! Thank you for this time!!❤🇨🇦
Wonderful, amazing connections!! Thank you so much!
Like the story about the Missionary that John told. Very good message in this story about the specious building. People do return from a wayward path.
Over the past year, this thought has been recurring in my mind. "There is nothing we can break that God cannot fix". I think this is one of the reasons that we rejoiced when the plan was presented to us. It also reminds me of covenant, which is inherently a breaking and a mending.
What a full day/hours of learning! Time well spent, I never connected chapter 10 either. Crazy how its there all along , just hidden in plain sight.
Love this part
So good. Again and again. ❤
Beautiful truths shared in this episode with SO many wonderful insights to ponder! Thank you for the time you all spend to prepare to help us learn! I love the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the truths within the Book of Mormon 🌻🐞
Dr Gaye, I too was left without access to the sacrament during COVID and it was very difficult.
Me too 😢
Today as I reread 1 Nephi 8, I saw a connection between Lehi praying after he had be in the darkness for a space of many hours and then being able to see the tree with Helaman 5 and those that were surrounded be a midst of darkness and it was removed after they prayed.
Wonderful insights. Thank you to the three of you and your staff!
Fantastic! Thank you
Love your discussion. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Thank you so much! It was indeed a real feast! As usual. Looking forward to your story for this week..
Great insights! Thank you!!
This was amazing! Best so far. How enlightening
Thank you!
Great content a fun side note on the mists of darkness... apparently the Bedouin have a colloquial term when a sandstorm meets a cool moist air inversion off...most of darkness...it blots out the sun removes all visibility and makes it hard to breath...worst of both worlds...sand storms are bad enough, mists are disorienting enough...mists of darkness are devastating...which I think is something we all come across at varying stages of life...we experience sandstorms and mists and we learn how to survive them...but then when all the conditions aline in life and all our resources aren't good enough we only have one source to fall on...mists of darkness are those moments where all that we learned no longer fits or serves what we are experiencing...where do we go in those moments ...who do we draw to when nothing fits or makes sense.
Wow!! Amazing lessons today. Thx!!❤❤❤❤
13:12 I generally ignore those questions because I understand that FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ is the first principle of the gospel.
I wish Gaye had been in my ward where the priesthood figured out how to safely get the sacrament to us singles.
You were blessed. I had the same experience as Gaye, it was a dark, lonely time as a single.
Begging you to keep bringing us the “A” team!!!!!!! CFM manual like the appetizer but this was the feast!!!!!.
This is incredible new insight. Thank you so much
Excellent insights.
Why can’t you just invite Sister Strathearn every week!!❤️❤️❤️
I just love her
Joseph Smith Senior had a similar dream/vision. His description of partaking of the fruit and how delightful it was is a little more intense. I could feel a little deeper how wonderful partaking of the fruit might be. He said he and his family (all 7 children) were eating so abundantly that they were using both hands to consume it. It made an impression on me that the Lehi/Nephi versions didn't. Joseph Smith, Sr.'s version/dream was in the book, The Book of Mormon made easier by David Ridges.
@3:00 I was surprised that there wasn't any discussion here about the environment that Lehi came from. Lehi's family left Jerusalem at the beginning of the first year of the rein of Zedekiah. At that time, he had 4 sons, and though Nephi doesn’t tell us his exact age, I think we can infer from the text that he was at least in his mid-teen considering that he describes himself as “young”, “large in stature”, and he was able to pass for Laban, who was obviously an adult. So, Let’s say that Lehi is about 50 years old. That means that Lehi’s formative years would have been during the reign of Josiah (640-609 B.C.), and his children would have come of age during the reign of Jehoiakim (609-598 B.C.)
In the context of the contrast between the reigns of Josiah (described as a righteous king) and Jehoiakim (described as a heretical tyrant and puppet of the Pharaoh) in Kings and Chronicles, I think some of the symbols in Lehi’s dream become clearer.
The great and spacious building might be representative of the doctrine of the temple becoming corrupt (i.e. the pride of the world). Eventually, as described in chapter 11, the corrupted temple falls.
The fountain or river of water could represent the Gihon spring which flows to the Pool of Siloam; thus, the filthiness of the water would represent that the temple, and by extension, the worship of God, has become corrupted and dangerous.
The iron rod obviously represents the Word of God, which was rediscovered and reinforced by Josiah, but the mist of darkness (which obscures the iron rod) could represent the reign of Jehoiakim and the Babylonian captivity where the Word of God and the path to the tree of life was obscured by the corruption of the scriptures. For example, we know that the writings of Zenos were lost (or removed) during the Babylonian captivity.
There is so much more symbolism having to do with the temple and the reforms of Josiah, but this comment is already too long...
Going forward with the plan of salvation analogy found in the tree of life… fall (darkness)-atonement (tree) are the 4 groups maybe representing the 3 degrees of glory described in d&C 76 and maybe the 4th group is outer darkness or the seeds on the wayside or those who only sought the spacious building ? Not sure but maybe
It goes to show that Zeno's Allegory of the Olive Tree was lost in the Old Testament as we see it today. I wonder if Lehi had a dream or vision of our day seeing those of his seeds coming forth in this latter days. The Seeds of Laman and Lemuel.
Is anyone else excited about covering Jacob chapter 5 now?
We are not nobody's. We are all somebody's. (Glass half empty, half full I guess)
Our Heavenly Father created man in his own image. Let's go forward in gratefulness and positivity and intentionally and contribute.
❤ 29:41
Where can I find the quote from bruce r moconick about the air around us. ???
Did Lehi's vision, and Nephi's dream, of the part with the large and spacious building remind anyone else of the song Hotel California
Where can I learn more about Zenus’ allegory?
In the Book of Mormon ... Jacob Chp 5. After you read it, come back to listen to this small section again. Enjoy! ❤
A Rod of iron is not a rail, it is rode God holds is a scepter something kings hold
❤ 45:32
💙💙
Where are the notes for Part 2? I so need them
They are in the same document as Part 1. followhim.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/BM-03-Dr.-Gaye-Strathearn-1-Nephi-6-10-followHIM-Podcast-SHOW-NOTES.pdf
How do we know that Zenos' alligory is in the plates Laban had? Prophets in Jerusalem could have taught that to Lehi.
During Covid, why did she not ask the missionaries or her minister to bring the sacrament to her home? Neil Maxwell - "Hold on to the iron rod with two hands"
WHY DID THEY NOT OFFER TO DO SO. MY MINISTERING BROTHER AND HIS SON CAME AND BROUGHT THE SACRAMENT TO ME. HIS WIFE JOINED THEM TOO.
Missionaries aren't allowed to go into the homes of single sisters, no matter their age. The rule is wrong, especially for elderly widows.
I am in a part member family, my mum and I didn't receive the Sacrament for months and months 😢
@@sharonjohnson7458because some brethren forget us singles and don't think outside of the box, unlike your ministering brother and family who were inspired to do so.
Would a child who has been abused be in the great and spacious building.
Absolutely not! In my opinion, the abuser yes, but not the child.
The reason I posed the question, is that there is a display of statues being prepared to be displayed at the gardens at Thanksgiving Point depicting the tree of life. Among the people in the great and spacious building is a child who has been abused. This has really bothered me that she would be in there. No where in the Book of Mormon can I find anything that would suggest that.
They may not be there by choice and really want to be somewhere else, but are being held captive and are waiting for someone to rescue them.
Just a thought, their has to be something for those that play the evil parts. Satan, Laman and Lemuel, Judas. and so forth. Opposition in all things.
The great and spacious building is a prison- don’t be fooled
23:14