Thank you! I had the same issue and called lots of shops and they all tried to convince me this wasn't the problem and said it was going to cost me a lot to fix it. We bought a second hand one, replaced it and now I have no issues with the steering wheel! So thank you for this video, it saved me lots of money!
@@TheSavageGarage I called 4 garages in my area ( I live in the Netherlands ). They all kind of laughed at me ( maybe because I am a woman ) when I said I saw this video and asked them whether this could fix the problem ( a neighbour of mine has the same car and also had this problem in the past and also replaced it and it did the trick ). They all said they had to look at it, and that it could have many causes, but that this pump change wouldn't fix the problem. Today I called them all back to tell them it díd fix the problem. I can't help but think they all tried to get lots of money from me for repair ór they just didn't have any knowledge about this. Well... long story short: thanks! ( It was a hassle to get to the screw in the back, because we didn't have an electric screwdriver like you. It took quite some time, but with pushing the plastic cover with plenty of force, we managed to get enough space in between, so we could get the screwdriver in )
What an awesome breakdown. I've got an 18 year old Punto that the light comes on occasionally, usually when the battery is about to go and in colder weather. Nice to see the whole system, thanks for sharing.
Thanks a lot man. I had the same problem with my Punto from 2002(driven 149000). I wanted to sell it but nobody wanted it. Now I fixed it for 38euro and made somebody happy with the car. I wish I saw your video a year ago 😅.
Thank you, I just got my first car since i just passed my driving exam, I got Punto from 2007 with 190000km and it has this issue, now I can fix that as well, it's a good car for a start 😇
@@cenariusbg Yep, i replaced relays on mine since i already had to remove whole PCB. Should be fine for few more years if i'm still gonna drive this car.
Your spoiling us James ,2 vids in a week , love the videos , always my favourite go to channel , can't wait for next , seems like you really enjoyed doing this vid and have Ur enthusiasm back , good on you , Chris
My Ex's car had the same issue but changing the motor is just one of many things that can be done to fix the steering motor failure, a bad car battery and badly wired aftermarket radio in my experience on her car were the issue and the steering wheel failure persisted even with a different motor. That being said there are newer motors for these Punto's without the Tyco relay's, I swapped out the old style motor and the new style steering motor on her car, that paired with a great Varta battery and rewiring the radio to the cigarette lighter ignition and problem solved. The only time i noticed the issue return was when i bought her car off her as a little runner for £320 and decided to put my 10" sub in the car, that dragged the battery voltage low enough to cause a steering wheel failure, i just drive the car a little hard and again that resolved the issue. I hope this helps someone out there
Nothing against your neighbour but holy shit does that car need a clean. I honestly don’t know how you could drive around in that 😧 Great vid as always though James
Hello James, greetings from Miami Florida. Just want to tell you how much I enjoy your videos ! This one in particular shows what a great guy you are. I wish you had a double living in my neighborhood. I want to thank you for giving me hope that I could possibly own a Mini Cooper in the near future. Don't ever change the way you come across. We need more young men with such ethical and decent conduct.
Sylvia Gonzalez thankyou so much for the kind words. That’s made my day thankyou so much! P.s. I’m jealous you live in Miami! A place I’ve always wanted to visit
Top job man. I used to have a Punto Active sport. It was great car but head gasket went twice so ended as scrap. That city function is a great feature.
Had exactly same issue with a Daihatsu I own. Motor is not as easy to access as the punto but when you get it off you can open the motor and will find loads of carbon which interferes with the running of the motor. Quick clean out and it’s back to working perfectly.
Good man. Neighbor helping a neighbor... World would be a better place if that was the norm.. Good content as always... Keep'em coming. Definitely helps during quarantine..😷👍😀
This video is exactly what I needed. My 2001 fiat punto has the exact same problem. I'm going to show this video to my local garage. Maybe they can fix it. Thank you!
thanks mate, gonna try this with my panda as I think its basically the same thing that's both wrong with PS and what to do to repair it. Great vid, keep up the great work :)
Great change of video. Maybe an idea for content that you offer your neighbour abit of labour discount for you to do.more light hearted videos on this car, i.e servicing, brakes. Miss these types of videos on youtube.
Had this happen on dsughters car a few years ago,and found out the two relays were available on ebay.A bit of dismantling and some soldering and worked and was cheap.
Great video , My car while driving almost got me under a truck steering locked 4 time in the matter time of 10 minutes I managed to get it there a safe place and park if off.. thanks for sharing your knowledge about this issue 🤗
Great vid James. It’s a great endorsement that your neighbours approach you to work on their cars. Hopefully word will spread & you’ll get more work and maybe earn a few coppers out of it 💴💴😁
The facelifted Mk2 Punto has a different power steering motor without the two relays that often fail on the pre-facelifted models, the later motors are more reliable however what shortens the life of the motor is using the City mode all the time or driving the car with a weak battery. Regardless of the motor design, it's a very cheap fix anyway and it's maintenance free, there is no power steering pump and no need to buy fluid for the system. Vauxhalls also have electric power steering.
@@neilmurphy845 I'm laughing because I own a 2002 Alfa Romeo that according to the stereotypes of people like you it should break down every five minutes but never dies? Explain this to me?
@@terryturner4116 ya but you obviously have the money to keep up with the maintenance or don't drive much or yet another old car is better than new and a new thing I just discover those fiat Puntos are actually Opel/GM corsas so that would explain why they have so silly designs
Nice walk through to what was always a weakness on these cars! Always had a soft spot for them and there don’t seem to be many about so nice work keeping this one going for a little longer! I really hope the owner at least lets you loose with a vacuum in there though🤢
I like those Fiats, I bet it’s fun to drive in town and on the twisties. Nice fix on that one, 2003, a little long in the tooth, I have an 04 Golf that still runs great.
can you not replace the relays in the old unit? might be a good video if someone wants to have a go at fixing the unit, rather than buying a whole different unit. maybe sell it to someone else or keep if for the next time it goes. food for thought. great videos. looking forward to seeing the mondeo again
I’m not surprised. Fiats seem to have flakey electrics. Good video and a very simple fix. Never seen an EPAS system under the steering column before! Agree with other comments. The inside of that car is mank.
Well today James I tested out the Cone Filter theory after watching one of your videos... Induction noise is good, But then it bogs down, Taken it straight off, Next stop a new Exhaust 😊
i had the same issue, wasnt the relais for me, the soldering joins were very poorly soldered so i simply added some and the issue has been gone ever since
good man nice to see you making loads of vids again and even helping your neighbour out. i have to admit iv seen myself saying, and theres the prize when i remove a stubborn part. i now know where im getting that from lol. you keep teasing us with that welder in background im looking to buy a welder in next few weeks, would be good to see if that parkside flux core is good for thin body panels. you done any thin metal with it yet dude?
This issue is mega common. 7 steering units I had on mine. 5 were replaced under warranty by fiat and they replaced the steering column 5 times too. The garage had replace the columns galore on the pinto and couldn’t get the units quick enough for them The car was just a nightmare of fault after fault
I owned a Punto at one point. A Y-reg 3 door. Sufficed to say the experience was so traumatic I will only drive a Toyota or a Honda for the rest of my life. In the 14 months I owned it it was fucked with one problem or another for half of the time. I did about 14,000 miles the whole time I owned it. The car was scrap at 70,000. In contrast I have done over 160,000 miles in my Toyota and have only had minor problems like the water pump, an alternator fault and I had to replace the clutch and recently I treated some rust and rebuilt the rear suspension and changed a few brake lines.
legend for this mine just random stops working while driving and a red steering wheel pops up im guessing changing this will sort it if its a relay problem do you think some chunkey relays would fix it permanently.
Hi mate Great video as always 😊 I was just wondering, is there a way to diagnose these so you can know for sure that it is this that is the problem? Thanks
In the netherlands it is I think HE001. But not totally sure. Productcode elekotromotor Fiat Punto 188 (1999-2002): HE001 Servomotor 46821891 is geschikt voor stuurkolommen met onderdeelnummer: 46755205 referentie module 6971 46755203 referentie module 6971 For 2003-2010: HE002 Servomotor is geschikt voor stuurkolommen met onderdeelnummer: 46833924 referentie module 1075 46833923 referentie module 1075
On another note, another great channel "vice grip garage" has some sort of member thing where u join for a monthly fee. depending on the level, u get perks. Might be a great way to help support and fund ur channel. Maybe u should look into it. I would definitely join. Love to help u continue ur projects.
Thank you! I had the same issue and called lots of shops and they all tried to convince me this wasn't the problem and said it was going to cost me a lot to fix it. We bought a second hand one, replaced it and now I have no issues with the steering wheel! So thank you for this video, it saved me lots of money!
thats awesome
@@TheSavageGarage I called 4 garages in my area ( I live in the Netherlands ). They all kind of laughed at me ( maybe because I am a woman ) when I said I saw this video and asked them whether this could fix the problem ( a neighbour of mine has the same car and also had this problem in the past and also replaced it and it did the trick ). They all said they had to look at it, and that it could have many causes, but that this pump change wouldn't fix the problem. Today I called them all back to tell them it díd fix the problem. I can't help but think they all tried to get lots of money from me for repair ór they just didn't have any knowledge about this. Well... long story short: thanks! ( It was a hassle to get to the screw in the back, because we didn't have an electric screwdriver like you. It took quite some time, but with pushing the plastic cover with plenty of force, we managed to get enough space in between, so we could get the screwdriver in )
Nice to see people helping each other out. Top man!
So satisfying when a used part solves a problem. Good work pal.
What an awesome breakdown. I've got an 18 year old Punto that the light comes on occasionally, usually when the battery is about to go and in colder weather. Nice to see the whole system, thanks for sharing.
Thanks a lot man. I had the same problem with my Punto from 2002(driven 149000). I wanted to sell it but nobody wanted it. Now I fixed it for 38euro and made somebody happy with the car. I wish I saw your video a year ago 😅.
A nice little job and a good deed done. Nice to see people helping out others in the community. Top man sir👍🏼
Now that's what I call old school. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Great video as always.
Me either anyway if it's Italian care it's usually something to do with electric
@@neilmurphy845 Italian electrics are never great. Those Punto are great for flying up bridges, get great air time on them 😂😂
@@jackhaddley2875 hahaha never knew that actually
these are everywhere on the balkans
Nicely done James, and good of you to help out an elderly neighbour too.
Thank you, I just got my first car since i just passed my driving exam, I got Punto from 2007 with 190000km and it has this issue, now I can fix that as well, it's a good car for a start 😇
Feels like the good old days James banging out the videos great video mate 👍
Thankyou matt appreciate it!
This is a very common problem on Puntos and Pandas of that period. Thank god that motor is cheap and easy to replace!
you can replace the relays as well.... In my punto I had a bad solder connection, just resoldered it ... all worked perfect ;)
@@cenariusbg Yep, i replaced relays on mine since i already had to remove whole PCB. Should be fine for few more years if i'm still gonna drive this car.
Your spoiling us James ,2 vids in a week , love the videos , always my favourite go to channel , can't wait for next , seems like you really enjoyed doing this vid and have Ur enthusiasm back , good on you , Chris
Nice little content James.helping out an older neighbor and making a useful video is satisfying ,and entertaining.xxx
We have a lot of these puntos here and i didnt know they had this simple of an elec. steering system. I like that actually.
A handy job on a Fiat! I've seen it all now. Top marks for helping out the neighbour.
your local mechanic must love you, stealing all the business on mates rates, i'm assuming , haha
Mates are mates,always appreciate a mate that can sort you out in these situations,they'll return the help for sure.
Great cars these, simple and easy to work on. used to be absolutely everywhere at one time.
Great video.
What a great guy for helping your neighbor out with his car well done mate!!, You're right though that thing is well overdue a good bath 😂
Great job, don't know why this has 15 dislikes ? you helped an elderly neighbour out and made an interesting video, don't figure!
These cars were excellent for on the move handbrake turns into side roads 🤣 great job man 👌 detailing video next 😎
My Ex's car had the same issue but changing the motor is just one of many things that can be done to fix the steering motor failure, a bad car battery and badly wired aftermarket radio in my experience on her car were the issue and the steering wheel failure persisted even with a different motor.
That being said there are newer motors for these Punto's without the Tyco relay's, I swapped out the old style motor and the new style steering motor on her car, that paired with a great Varta battery and rewiring the radio to the cigarette lighter ignition and problem solved. The only time i noticed the issue return was when i bought her car off her as a little runner for £320 and decided to put my 10" sub in the car, that dragged the battery voltage low enough to cause a steering wheel failure, i just drive the car a little hard and again that resolved the issue. I hope this helps someone out there
Lovely Jubbly, nice quick fix, imagine taking that to a Fiat dealership, they'd be rubbing their hands.
another wicked upload mate glad ya back and smashing the content out 👌🏻
I agree with dave that car was minging and yes it would make a great before and after valeting video
After wasting 1 hour on stupid videos of guys who dont know what are they doing. I found yours thank you soo much keep it up 👍
Lov ur clip...Thx 4 sharing
Nothing against your neighbour but holy shit does that car need a clean. I honestly don’t know how you could drive around in that 😧 Great vid as always though James
Thats what i thought too. I wouldnt even want to sit in that thing, let alone drive it. Yuck...
It is pretty yucki cant lie
You should have seen my mates old mk1 punto...that was a f*cking disgrace
My work van looks like that but my own car clean as a whistle lol
I had a mark 1 meriva and my power steering went and it was the same thing but had it changed after I wrote to vauxhall and watchdog tv .love ur work
My first car was a 2002 punto and I had to change the power steering motor in that, you starting the engine on that brought back some memories 😂
Interesting video, that was much more straightforward than I thought it would be!.
One of the best things about older cars is that they are so much easier to repair than the new ones which are stuffed with computer control and tech
Hello James, greetings from Miami Florida. Just want to tell you how much I enjoy your videos ! This one in particular shows what a great guy you are. I wish you had a double living in my neighborhood. I want to thank you for giving me hope that I could possibly own a Mini Cooper in the near future. Don't ever change the way you come across. We need more young men with such ethical and decent conduct.
Sylvia Gonzalez thankyou so much for the kind words. That’s made my day thankyou so much! P.s. I’m jealous you live in Miami! A place I’ve always wanted to visit
There's a Fiat Stilo at my college and I get to take part home and I've got so much of it love it
Good to see you back doing new videos!
Good for you helping out your neighbour
I wonder if you could have taken the relays out and changed them into the clean motor.
Sensational tutorial ... Thank you .... Greetings from Granada - Andalucia - Spain
Great to see you back on TH-cam, really enjoy watching your channel, keep up the good work mate
Good job bud, and nice seeing you taking pride in your jobs.
Top job man. I used to have a Punto Active sport. It was great car but head gasket went twice so ended as scrap. That city function is a great feature.
Had exactly same issue with a Daihatsu I own. Motor is not as easy to access as the punto but when you get it off you can open the motor and will find loads of carbon which interferes with the running of the motor. Quick clean out and it’s back to working perfectly.
big thanks! just bought a Punto and think this video will be big help as steering randomly turns off
Good man. Neighbor helping a neighbor... World would be a better place if that was the norm.. Good content as always... Keep'em coming. Definitely helps during quarantine..😷👍😀
This video is exactly what I needed. My 2001 fiat punto has the exact same problem. I'm going to show this video to my local garage. Maybe they can fix it. Thank you!
thanks mate, gonna try this with my panda as I think its basically the same thing that's both wrong with PS and what to do to repair it. Great vid, keep up the great work :)
Great change of video. Maybe an idea for content that you offer your neighbour abit of labour discount for you to do.more light hearted videos on this car, i.e servicing, brakes. Miss these types of videos on youtube.
Brilliant, a most excellent video, you have a talent for this young man!
Had this happen on dsughters car a few years ago,and found out the two relays were available on ebay.A bit of dismantling and some soldering and worked and was cheap.
Great video , My car while driving almost got me under a truck steering locked 4 time in the matter time of 10 minutes I managed to get it there a safe place and park if off..
thanks for sharing your knowledge about this issue 🤗
Nice to see that you are back with the videos. Keep it up man. Great content
Great vid James. It’s a great endorsement that your neighbours approach you to work on their cars. Hopefully word will spread & you’ll get more work and maybe earn a few coppers out of it 💴💴😁
Yep the power steering sensor comun problem you can find it on the alfa mito opel meriva en the Punto good job
Wow, how accessible is that? Its almost like they expected them to fail.
Well they did because it's a Italian car in this case a fiat or fix it again today
Was thinking the same.
The facelifted Mk2 Punto has a different power steering motor without the two relays that often fail on the pre-facelifted models, the later motors are more reliable however what shortens the life of the motor is using the City mode all the time or driving the car with a weak battery. Regardless of the motor design, it's a very cheap fix anyway and it's maintenance free, there is no power steering pump and no need to buy fluid for the system. Vauxhalls also have electric power steering.
@@neilmurphy845 I'm laughing because I own a 2002 Alfa Romeo that according to the stereotypes of people like you it should break down every five minutes but never dies? Explain this to me?
@@terryturner4116 ya but you obviously have the money to keep up with the maintenance or don't drive much or yet another old car is better than new and a new thing I just discover those fiat Puntos are actually Opel/GM corsas so that would explain why they have so silly designs
Putting on a bit of timber since lockdown James! 🤔 yet another great video, keep up the good work!
Not as much as Boris though
you dont know what someone is going through though, I couldn't see my son for the whole of lockdown really made me depressed as f.
lol thanks i guess :D
@@TheSavageGarage we have you're back fella 👍
lucky man! So much easier to replace than the newer Punto's and Alfa Mito's!
Nice easy fix, great vid. Would love to see a yum cars detail on it😎👍
Nice walk through to what was always a weakness on these cars! Always had a soft spot for them and there don’t seem to be many about so nice work keeping this one going for a little longer! I really hope the owner at least lets you loose with a vacuum in there though🤢
I like those Fiats, I bet it’s fun to drive in town and on the twisties. Nice fix on that one, 2003, a little long in the tooth, I have an 04 Golf that still runs great.
can you not replace the relays in the old unit? might be a good video if someone wants to have a go at fixing the unit, rather than buying a whole different unit. maybe sell it to someone else or keep if for the next time it goes. food for thought. great videos. looking forward to seeing the mondeo again
Great little video, great that you can help out your neighbours 👍
Good stuff as always, really think this car would benifit from a Savage Garage valet 😉
I’m not surprised. Fiats seem to have flakey electrics. Good video and a very simple fix. Never seen an EPAS system under the steering column before! Agree with other comments. The inside of that car is mank.
Nice easy fix ..... I was thinking it needs a dam good clean just before you said it 😂 👍
Well today James I tested out the Cone Filter theory after watching one of your videos... Induction noise is good, But then it bogs down, Taken it straight off, Next stop a new Exhaust 😊
Yay Punto content! Would love to see more 👍
Brilliant video again James really enjoyed watching it. I would definitely love to see the punto being cleaned and detailed.
Great video, you teached us well how to replace the part...
I really enjoy your videos! Glad to see that you are making more videos again! :)
i had the same issue, wasnt the relais for me, the soldering joins were very poorly soldered so i simply added some and the issue has been gone ever since
Great job as usual James, well done.
I like the occasional random content like this
Really enjoyed this mate, made it look really simple!
Another good video you explained the repair brilliant as you normally do ,keep the videos coming...
Fabulous video once again, thanks a lot mate!
Excellent video , got this problem on my corsa c
Great work same thing happened to my corsa c steering was heavy but for some reason it fixed itself but haven't any issues with couple years
good man nice to see you making loads of vids again and even helping your neighbour out. i have to admit iv seen myself saying, and theres the prize when i remove a stubborn part. i now know where im getting that from lol. you keep teasing us with that welder in background im looking to buy a welder in next few weeks, would be good to see if that parkside flux core is good for thin body panels. you done any thin metal with it yet dude?
This issue is mega common. 7 steering units I had on mine. 5 were replaced under warranty by fiat and they replaced the steering column 5 times too. The garage had replace the columns galore on the pinto and couldn’t get the units quick enough for them
The car was just a nightmare of fault after fault
Great content. I always look forward to your uploads, thanks alot.
What is the electric screwdriver that you are using please ? It seems really handy to work around in tight spaces.
This Car needs a Yum Cars interior clean special haha
damn right! lol
I owned a Punto at one point. A Y-reg 3 door. Sufficed to say the experience was so traumatic I will only drive a Toyota or a Honda for the rest of my life. In the 14 months I owned it it was fucked with one problem or another for half of the time. I did about 14,000 miles the whole time I owned it. The car was scrap at 70,000. In contrast I have done over 160,000 miles in my Toyota and have only had minor problems like the water pump, an alternator fault and I had to replace the clutch and recently I treated some rust and rebuilt the rear suspension and changed a few brake lines.
legend for this mine just random stops working while driving and a red steering wheel pops up im guessing changing this will sort it if its a relay problem do you think some chunkey relays would fix it permanently.
Lovely job, amazing feeling helping someone out, good work.
Anyone else still wondering what he’s Day job is 😏, Great video as always James 👍
Hi mate
Great video as always 😊
I was just wondering, is there a way to diagnose these so you can know for sure that it is this that is the problem?
Thanks
Nice one james. Its great to see you working on everyday cars. Its few and far between seeing normal motors on here
Another interesting video again James nice one 👍
Hi, can you tell me Please The Part Number. All i can find is with the complete Steering Column..... Cheers
In the netherlands it is I think HE001. But not totally sure.
Productcode elekotromotor Fiat Punto 188 (1999-2002): HE001
Servomotor 46821891 is geschikt voor stuurkolommen met onderdeelnummer:
46755205 referentie module 6971
46755203 referentie module 6971
For 2003-2010: HE002
Servomotor is geschikt voor stuurkolommen met onderdeelnummer:
46833924 referentie module 1075
46833923 referentie module 1075
@@mops6685 Cheers 👍
On another note, another great channel "vice grip garage" has some sort of member thing where u join for a monthly fee. depending on the level, u get perks. Might be a great way to help support and fund ur channel. Maybe u should look into it. I would definitely join. Love to help u continue ur projects.
I may look into it one day :)
Well done James, its good to see you back. Hope the owner let's you detail the car! It would be good to see a before and after.
Nice fix James.
Baz.
James there's a big pink chewit on the floor. Great video mate, thanks
Well done on a good little job
Keep up the great work fella!
Cracking job again
am liking the new intro good video as always
Good stuff james keep it up might come in handy if I have to buy a punto
Great work, love the Punto aswell, one would make a great project car for you maybe.
nice easy job wish all jobs on a car was that easy to fix :)
really enjoy your vids - great work
Does the same apply to the Fiat Panda 2004 (169)? The light comes on and the steering gets harder!