To be honest, I was surprised that Ramaphosa put Angie Motshekga Minister in Charge of SANDF. A woman who failed the Education of South Africans Children dismally. Why not at least Bantu Holomisa if there was no suitable candidate in his Party🤔
Can you imagine the couldn't run the Department of Education so how can she even run the Army. They need to put people with a Military background in such a position.
Ramaphosa is South Africas biggest problem that man can't make a single sound decision. Everything he touches collapses. Angie did not apply for that position but the president saw that the most incompetent granny who looks like she has no clue on how to run her own family will be suitable for National Defence 😕
Rwanda only wants to stop genocide perpetrators hiding in DRC called FDLR, DRC is using mercenaries (; Wazalendo, FDLR and some Monusco soldiers) who are hurting their own citizens while looting, their aim is to make money that's why the rebels are winning, the citizens are quickly siding with them because they recognize this reality. As Africans, we should be working together, not against each other. DRC leaders are using citizens as chess pawns.
South Africa must continue fighting against Rebel awhile triying push both parts at the table of Negotiation...South Africa has voice in our Region even though we see SA as Potential Capable Military
M23 HAS A BIG NUMBER OF SOLDIERS. SADC HAS AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TROOPS. DRC CONGO ARMY IS TECHNICALLY NOT A MILITARY. M23 ARE DETERMINED. DRC ARMY HAVE WEAKNESS.
You people you don't know what you are dealing with.. We are a wonded lion in his territory Fighting for his survival Keep coming but don't forget your body bags KIVU people OYEEEEE 💪🏿🙏🏿🇷🇼
Yeah, but we aren’t technically fighting Rwanda, but a Rwanda backed militia, and without proper investigation and evidence, South Africa can’t fight Rwanda head on, and end all of this once and for all, but another problem is South Africa’s and South Americans lack for a taste for war( which is good), but with majority of the public wouldn’t want to support the Defence department, if it meant setting in more billions and maybe even raising taxes, because there will always be those people in SA that would say “ that money could have been used to help people back home, rather then spending it on another country/foreigners”, do you get me 😅
@@InamMaqondose-ny8zfeven if SA launches an all out war to Rwanda they wouldn’t win, it is even practically impossible for Rwanda and SA to directly fight.
@ South Africa has all the military capacity to technically economically, and production wise to be one of the 15 strongest countries in the world, South Africa still is one of the worlds largest arms manufacturers, it’s the only African country with home production while all the others rely on foreign orders including orders from South Africa itself ( home made helicopters, tanks, guns, ammunition, vehicles, missiles, and many other war aiding materials) Rwanda does not, they do not even have a quarter of South Africa’s air, ground and Naval assets and equipment, the only thing setting South Africa’s military capabilities back is the lack interest in war by both the public and government, there for the government and many people see no real need to invest billions into a war that we aren’t even fully invested in, far from it, if the South African government and people had the will to want to wage war, they wouldn’t mind actually caring about the military, for example there are many countries in the world that have the capacity to wage war, but they don’t use it, because they are in peace times like Germany, Japan and even America before WW2, there is a saying,” war makes strong man, strong man brings victory, victory brings peace, peace makes weak man”, South Africa is a country that is in no threat of a war there for its experiencing peace, despite it having the capacity but not using, until a major event happens that wakes up South Africa’s immune system, the South African people and government, will always bring up the notion that since we are not a war mongering country, those billions must be put to good use then to a military that doesn’t do anything, that much, but my point is, if there was a declaration of war, and South Africa is head on invested, those paused factors will see daylight again, and all those planes and vehicles that have been sitting with out no repair, will be fixing in no time, since the government will see an immediate use for them now, South Africa, has the product and economical capacity to wage a long term war and take on any country on the continent of Africa, and until someone tests the patience of that sleeping lion, we will never see that power being used, but make no mistake, that does not mean SA is weak, there is a reason it’s the only African countries in the G20, because it has the economical and military capacity
I wonder seeing south Africans talking about withdrawing yet Uganda is helping those neighborhood nations year after year and the people are willing to support till they see peace in the region no matter which challenges they encounter. VIVA UPDF
where is Zimbabwe fighting than to sjambok their civilians? don't come up with lame shoulder pads. sandf lack of proper equipment bcz they hv limited weaponry as they there in peace keeping force bt the problem is minister Motshekga nd President Ramaphosa
The deaths must lie solely on rhe shoulders of the defense minister and the top brass of the military. Seems to me they were ill equipped, trained and supported.
M23 lost thousands and thousands soldiers in this wars!! How is south Africa losing after only 8 soldiers died ( may they RIP) may be due to an ambouche
Withdraw from this please ...let them fight alone bring our husbands.. fathers..sons and daughters eeee it's getting out of hands 😢..may they rest well
Congo helped south Africa during the times of apartheid in SA so SA should also help congo to defend its borders from Rwandan invasion but SA troops should not go on the front line let them act as peace keepers in regions where the congo army has taken control
How many Congolese killed by their national army. Do you know how much DRC supporting terrorists FDLR. You have to respect what M23 fighting for. we are outside of our country cause of DRC national army.
There should be accountability on this matter. The Minister must account. The whole Ministry of Defence must be rebuilt, it’s in bad shape.
I don`t know what will it take South Africans before they realize Ramaposa doesn`t care about them
To be honest, I was surprised that Ramaphosa put Angie Motshekga Minister in Charge of SANDF. A woman who failed the Education of South Africans Children dismally. Why not at least Bantu Holomisa if there was no suitable candidate in his Party🤔
😂😂 imagine.. I'm sure she's asking herself the same question
Can you imagine the couldn't run the Department of Education so how can she even run the Army. They need to put people with a Military background in such a position.
Ramaphosa is South Africas biggest problem that man can't make a single sound decision. Everything he touches collapses. Angie did not apply for that position but the president saw that the most incompetent granny who looks like she has no clue on how to run her own family will be suitable for National Defence 😕
@ckoriablack 😹😂😂😂🤣
But how can you fight with people on land they were born in, traine they are familiar to and expect to ein
That's why they are solder
Rwanda don't want South Africa there and the UN over there
Rwanda only wants to stop genocide perpetrators hiding in DRC called FDLR, DRC is using mercenaries (; Wazalendo, FDLR and some Monusco soldiers) who are hurting their own citizens while looting, their aim is to make money that's why the rebels are winning, the citizens are quickly siding with them because they recognize this reality. As Africans, we should be working together, not against each other. DRC leaders are using citizens as chess pawns.
Our soldiers suppose to defend our borders
Whose financial interests are our soldiers serving there ?
Ruperts...motsipe ramaphosa and westerns
United nations
They dont have enough money for clarity. With the current defense budget. They can probably give you 20% clarity.
I am so bloody angry as my son is on the frontlines they are in terrible danger!!!!
May he be kept safe and return home. This government has failed our soldiers, they cannot be sent to fight with out total support and full budgets!
This is not a peacekeeping mission anymore. South Africa withdraw your troops before it is too late .
Carl spitting threats, SIT DOWN!
Mr president please bring back our soldiers we are not at war,Congo Rwanda must solve their political problems
Other nations soldiers died during apartheid for your freedom. You have forgotten so quickly
South Africa must continue fighting against Rebel awhile triying push both parts at the table of Negotiation...South Africa has voice in our Region even though we see SA as Potential Capable Military
I'm still worried about marikana and Soweto 1976 not this one our general must weak up he or still sleeping
M23 HAS A BIG NUMBER OF SOLDIERS.
SADC HAS AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TROOPS.
DRC CONGO ARMY IS TECHNICALLY NOT A MILITARY.
M23 ARE DETERMINED.
DRC ARMY HAVE WEAKNESS.
If the death of under 10 soldiers can cause you this uproar 😮 then the S.A military shouldn't be in the DRC at all AT ALL!
You people you don't know what you are dealing with..
We are a wonded lion in his territory
Fighting for his survival
Keep coming but don't forget your body bags
KIVU people OYEEEEE 💪🏿🙏🏿🇷🇼
Bring our soldiers back and increase military budget , training, and equipment. Remove the minister of defense.
They have decreased the SANDF budget for the last 30 years, because buying BMWs for ministers is more important
But South Africa is regarded as a big power,but Rwanda is outshing them
Yeah, but we aren’t technically fighting Rwanda, but a Rwanda backed militia, and without proper investigation and evidence, South Africa can’t fight Rwanda head on, and end all of this once and for all, but another problem is South Africa’s and South Americans lack for a taste for war( which is good), but with majority of the public wouldn’t want to support the Defence department, if it meant setting in more billions and maybe even raising taxes, because there will always be those people in SA that would say “ that money could have been used to help people back home, rather then spending it on another country/foreigners”, do you get me 😅
@@InamMaqondose-ny8zfeven if SA launches an all out war to Rwanda they wouldn’t win, it is even practically impossible for Rwanda and SA to directly fight.
So what happen to south Africa is biggest army in Africa. Rwanda is pushing them out. They must come back go to the border to fight border jumpers 😂😂
the david and goliath issue
@ South Africa has all the military capacity to technically economically, and production wise to be one of the 15 strongest countries in the world, South Africa still is one of the worlds largest arms manufacturers, it’s the only African country with home production while all the others rely on foreign orders including orders from South Africa itself ( home made helicopters, tanks, guns, ammunition, vehicles, missiles, and many other war aiding materials) Rwanda does not, they do not even have a quarter of South Africa’s air, ground and Naval assets and equipment, the only thing setting South Africa’s military capabilities back is the lack interest in war by both the public and government, there for the government and many people see no real need to invest billions into a war that we aren’t even fully invested in, far from it, if the South African government and people had the will to want to wage war, they wouldn’t mind actually caring about the military, for example there are many countries in the world that have the capacity to wage war, but they don’t use it, because they are in peace times like Germany, Japan and even America before WW2, there is a saying,” war makes strong man, strong man brings victory, victory brings peace, peace makes weak man”, South Africa is a country that is in no threat of a war there for its experiencing peace, despite it having the capacity but not using, until a major event happens that wakes up South Africa’s immune system, the South African people and government, will always bring up the notion that since we are not a war mongering country, those billions must be put to good use then to a military that doesn’t do anything, that much, but my point is, if there was a declaration of war, and South Africa is head on invested, those paused factors will see daylight again, and all those planes and vehicles that have been sitting with out no repair, will be fixing in no time, since the government will see an immediate use for them now, South Africa, has the product and economical capacity to wage a long term war and take on any country on the continent of Africa, and until someone tests the patience of that sleeping lion, we will never see that power being used, but make no mistake, that does not mean SA is weak, there is a reason it’s the only African countries in the G20, because it has the economical and military capacity
I wonder seeing south Africans talking about withdrawing yet Uganda is helping those neighborhood nations year after year and the people are willing to support till they see peace in the region no matter which challenges they encounter. VIVA UPDF
Why get Carl to comment on this matter?
What is south Africa doing in Congo? You guys are not serious at all, Call your boys back home
SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT EXPERIENCED WHEN IT COMES TO WAR. THEY SHOULD SEEK TRAINING FROM ZIMBABWE SPECIAL FORCES
You are dreaming, our Recces would walk circles around Zim forces.
where is Zimbabwe fighting than to sjambok their civilians? don't come up with lame shoulder pads. sandf lack of proper equipment bcz they hv limited weaponry as they there in peace keeping force bt the problem is minister Motshekga nd President Ramaphosa
The deaths must lie solely on rhe shoulders of the defense minister and the top brass of the military. Seems to me they were ill equipped, trained and supported.
And where are the arms from the deal?
M23 lost thousands and thousands soldiers in this wars!! How is south Africa losing after only 8 soldiers died ( may they RIP) may be due to an ambouche
Why u don't stop cerm in sa
Withdraw from this please ...let them fight alone bring our husbands.. fathers..sons and daughters eeee it's getting out of hands 😢..may they rest well
They are soldiers, they have to fight don't worry guys
Not shocked at all! 😂
Kenyan forces were perfect there,South African forces have never fought anywhere
Congo helped south Africa during the times of apartheid in SA so SA should also help congo to defend its borders from Rwandan invasion but SA troops should not go on the front line let them act as peace keepers in regions where the congo army has taken control
M23 are Congolese speaking kinyarwanda , also is freedom fighters 💪 , they fight for their right it is not easy to win that person🤷.
@@Mashami-w5fighting for what rights?? Them Congolese in m23 are just puppets used by kagame and Western forces.
That’s not true those are Rwandan why don’t you want to accept your people
What is rsa protecting there
Don't be cowards south Africans
What cowards. Why must our people die on foreign soil when our government has cut their budgets for the last 30 years
How many Congolese killed by their national army. Do you know how much DRC supporting terrorists FDLR. You have to respect what M23 fighting for. we are outside of our country cause of DRC national army.
Get them home do they know the environment fighting without weapons Siesa cyril 6:03
This fool in red
Send Dudula operations to assist SANDF in DRC they are always wearing Uniform for soldiers🤔🤔🤔🤔
😂😂😂exactly, but the only know how to fight in a club and shops 😂😂😂
They are soldiers guys. In war soldiers kill and get killed
😂😂😂Viva ANC
Imagine flying to fight locals in their own jungle? Time people realise the M23 are natives
Natives of where?? Do you know their agenda??
Of course M23 are Congolese
😂😂😂 Wow South Africa.
M23 are Congolese speaking kinyarwanda , also is freedom fighters 💪 , they fight for their right it is not easy to win that person🤷
Yeah right! They ain't fighting for shiiit
@@elvador999go back to school you will know the real truth my gee.
There's the clarity
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,😂😂😂😂😂😂 SADEC idiots how are you??
Now we have your pigs 😂 I mean troops
Anyway thank fot gift of army vehicles you brought to us
We must stick to rugby😢
Now we have your pigs 😂 I mean troops
Anyway thank fot gift of army vehicles you brought to us
You need God.
@leratogao2267 also you need God too how you dare to send the troops to help FDRL to kill Tutsi!!
@@EmmyMeIoT well I never sent any troops, I'm responding to you calling human beings pigs...I don't support killings and wars.