Man, this was A wicked video showing a new be like me all the nitty-gritty! Like I always see reviews, but when it comes to doing the stuff that would actually give me more performance more readily like installing drivers and updating the bios I had no idea so thanks!
MiniITX with 7000 is a huge risk. Even in a ventilaed case builders are careful not to use anything except eco settings . In a small case if you end up using Eco65w rather than eco105w then GN says you just wasted money
Up until today I would have also said to get chipset drivers directly at AMD, but today I found a newer version released a month or so ago on the asus website.
Imo this advise was total bullshit. Theres a reason why brands like asus put out chipset drivers, its because they are finetuned for their motherboards
@@fajaradi1223 well it's still gonna be better than Intel igpus, if anything its definitely a nice to have if it doesn't impact performance much. Run a side monitor off it or something
they just added a more basic igpu to their standard processors (notice these dont have the G affix). which is great honestly because fuck troubleshooting GPU/mobo issues without an igpu to isolate if the problem is the GPU.
Tried Ryzen Master to use game mode with my 7950x. Upon reset, PC wouldn't boot or even post. Just dead with a red led on the mobo. Took clearing the cmos twice and another 5 boot attempts before I got it back. Don't think im messing anymore with Ryzen Master.
Just what I imagined. At first sight it is exciting to have access to Ryzen Master but I wish I could just set it up and get going. Instead, after watching this now I feel lost and confused about how reliable is this
now i really dont know what to do...i have a i5 8400 and a 1060 6gb...i usually upgrade every 3 years...wanted to upgrade when 3000 droped but you know...now i was waiting for new amd everything to upgrade (7000 and 7000) but now that i see pricing and everything it doesnt make sense now...but buying new components late next year after i went for 5000 now doesnt sit well with me...with am5 i would be kinda future proof for a while but the early adopter price tag is kinda harsh. while the other problem is that the 5800x3d isnt that cheap also :( but i would save a buck on mb and ram...pls send help (only a gamer/ with vr also for info)
To be honest unless you buy a super super high end GPU the 5800x will definitely serve you well. Honestly buy a used 3700x and a b550 motherboard you can always upgrade later and save a boat load of cash 🍻
this is a new socket and a new series of CPUs at the same time. 3 months or so and we will start seeing the budget friendly boards come out. DDR5 is still probably going to cost a lot though. I suggest maybe getting your new GPU once both sides drop, then holding off a little on the CPU until the dust settles?
If its true that the price will be the same as 5000 series then im willing to wait a few more months for the reviews come in and when stock reaches here
@@adrienbrown438 Nah dude ... Don't sell your kidneys for these. Just post some random vids to onlyfans. Who knows you might get some juicy dolla dolla bill from it.
I've had motherboard manufacturers strictly have you install their chipset first for compatibility issues. (I've never experienced an issue, either way.)
Just got a 7950x with an MSI b650 Mag Tomahawk Wifi. I've been using the box version of the bios for a few weeks now. Is that a poor idea for any reason? Is there a benefit to updating the bios? (kinda new to all this)
2 sticks of 32GB 5200 MT/s cl 30 can run at 5200 MT/s. 4x16GB 5200 MT/s cl 30 will only run at 3600 MT/s. Does anyone know if 4x 3600 can be translated to 14400 MT/s and if then it will be faster than 2x 5200 what could be 10400 MT/s or is the math that both have 64GB but the one has overall 5200 MT/s and the other one just 3600 MT/s. I just don't know how ram speed works with 1, 2 or 4 inserted sticks on a AM5 board and if any application can benefit from 4 slower but half sized sticks more than from 2 faster but bigger sticks. I thought with DDR4 I was faster when I inserted 4 Sticks in Davinci resolve, but all of them had been at 3200 cl16. Here I am afraid that 4x 16GB 3600 cl 30 DDR5 could be slower than 4x 16GB 3200 cl16 DDR4. Hope someone can test this, or someone already knows the answer. I think 4x16GB is cheaper than 2x32GB, now if it is also faster or no difference, then it would be a way to go.
amd 7995XyT: combyne cpu+gpu as on one socket: cut one of 8 core out: and input into one gpu die: connect cpu and gpu by L3 infi catch = 128MB or more: i love amd;
Cool video... but at 3:30 timestamp, he recommends an AMD app called "Ryzen Master" which is not listed on AMD's downloads... at least not for my new Ryzen 7 7700X.. in fact I can't find it listed for ANY of the Ryzen 7, 7000 series processors... So this video is recommending non-existent software... or software that AMD itself, does not allow downloads for... For that specific processor series.
Personally I'll go with a decent mobo + 7600x as I'm looking to build right now and upgrade to 3d soon after, not the most economically correct plan but I'll be set then
@@arthurgamerpro6585 look at mobo price,ryzen 7 7700X system cost more than 13th gen i9 system now they overtook intel in Marketplace,the games are gone,now they are the Nvidia of CPU industry
Worst platform... ever... and Intel isn't any better. INstall 4 DIMMs, your memory speed drops down to 3600, negating all the befits of DDR5 but you stillg et the cost. EFI BIOS is slow as molasses to boot up, and getting Legacy Mode to boot a Windows 7 installer you've loaded up with USB drivers... is a nightmare... because guess what, EFI don't display any VGA text at all when it's doing anything but booting itself. It's a clusterfvck. 90% of the time you're looking at a black screen waiting 40 seconds for the system to boot to BIOS... or not. NO press F1 for BIOS, nothing. No logo splash screen... no beeps until a bagillion years later.
@@BravoSixGoingDark IT was that bad. It hit off with problems flashign the BIOS and incompatible pairs of DIMMs from the very start. Surprise, yo can't mix two different pairs of DIMMs on DDR5. You will black screen all the time and not even boot reliably. DDR1-4.. not a problem. DDR5 - nope,. The worst problem right now is getting a working operating system on it. Windows 7 won't install even thought I've tried every trick int he book to make Windows 7 run on "modern" hardware. Modern my a55. What a bad joke. Running Zorin OS on it temporarily right now. My best an only option seems to be to run Windows 10 on it with OpenSHell, to try and beat into sort of working like Windows 7 in look and feel. It's been a night mare. $2,000 in PC parts built into a finally working hardware machine I can't use for video editing because I can't get Windows on it. Still using my good old reliable FX-8350 to render videos... The comptuer industry needs to get their SH1T together, particularly mMicrosoft. If you got billions of dollars and made some of the world's most popular OS's, support them forever. Stop waving your hands and pronouncing this product is now obsolete arbitrarily, when it clearly isn't. Sent from a Windows 7 machien tricked out and running great on n FX-8350. With a 7950x sitting idle doing jack 20 feet away.
@@choppergirl Would G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6000 CL30-38-38-96 1.35V be a better choice in dual channel on AM5 platforms paired with a 7800X3D on a MSI mobo?
@@BravoSixGoingDark I couldn't tell you, I went with a 7950x and 128gb of Corsair Dominator C40 Intel Optimized RAM. Whatever ram you buy, if you go 4 sticks make sure all 4 sticks EXACTLY match each other down to the controller chip on the DIMM (you can find the info on the detailed ram page in BIOS). I started with one pair of Corsair Dominator and one pair of Corsair Vengeance, and boy was I in non-boot loop h377. Until I realized, there was no way to get them to play together, because one set used a Micron controller, and the other set used a Samsung controller on board. The RAM is no longer the problem, getting a decent OS ont he computer is turning out to being more frustrating that it's worth. A $3000 computer that can not install WIndows 7, NT, XP, or even 95. The hardware is rock solid, it's Microsoft that is the d1psh1t in this case. I got WInd 10 installer, but I don't want it on my comptuer. Running Zorin OS currently.
@@british-tea7677 so what your saying is the entire line up of 7000 amd cpus is NO LONGER FOR GAMING good job hand it all to intel ROFL just get out of gpu market as well then right? wow just bloody wow this whole last few years shows utter shitshow stupid ceos across the board
ill add that latop was also utter garbage for even using it for development cause that shitshow desktop kept trying ot use less gpu then you had its like wtf amd nice move to the bin
@@rzul not the way the one that amd had with a 540 in it that hampered using the actual card it was sad it was so hard to use the actual card ya had to start messing round in bios and even then an update would have ya do it again terrible and while i get they have integrated this is not just having integrated its how its implemented
@@Sideways_Singh looking at replacing my Intel 2600K. Almost 15 years old now... but still runs without a hitch... I will miss it. I'm thinking of going with a X670 AORUS ELITE AX. Need to sleep on it.
Step 1:
*Acquire Ryzen 7000 in this strange economy time.*
I am so pumped to read the next step(s)
@@AmUnRA256 well, you've got a lot more waiting to do!
@@sneakycactus8815 yeah seems so ;)
okay i got one what is the next step?
@@feketeboti3301 2nd step: cry because new GPUs are overpriced
First thing to do is get a bank loan xd
Don’t forget RTX 4090 and ATX 3.0 power supply. Also, you need DDR5 to pair with new AMD CPU.
If they reject your application, go tell your dad.
Hell yeah
And maybe beef up the AC. Oh, and the house electrical circuitry.
Thank God they made us get ddr5 for no dam reason
PBO power curve offset negaive 30, boost frequency from 5.6 to 5.3 TDP control to 120W, Optimize fan curves for DC and PWM. Enable A- XMP 5600
for me, PBO power curve offset negaive 35 and + 200mhz boost clock is most stable
But is it stable?.
Man, this was A wicked video showing a new be like me all the nitty-gritty! Like I always see reviews, but when it comes to doing the stuff that would actually give me more performance more readily like installing drivers and updating the bios I had no idea so thanks!
AMD giving us the ability to set power targets... I guess Mini ITX won't die after all. It's ok to use small air coolers everyone!
Try the Fractal Torrent Nano case + Deepcool AK620 air cooler, it should be able to handle 200W+ of TDP.
They have already had that for years
MiniITX with 7000 is a huge risk. Even in a ventilaed case builders are careful not to use anything except eco settings . In a small case if you end up using Eco65w rather than eco105w then GN says you just wasted money
when you pay it with your own money, you don't play with it "to just see how much you can push it" mentality.. this chip is a starship on it's own.
Up until today I would have also said to get chipset drivers directly at AMD, but today I found a newer version released a month or so ago on the asus website.
Imo this advise was total bullshit. Theres a reason why brands like asus put out chipset drivers, its because they are finetuned for their motherboards
I am so excited to do this!!!
if i can actually afford these
You can download them for free
We have 2 kidneys for a reason. Maybe if you sell part of your liver you could afford a motherboard too
thats a good advise thank you gamer meld
So its confirmed, you want ddr5 6,000mhz ram with these cpus then?
I have 6000 ddr5 with ryzen 5 7500f and the boot time is around a minute
I thought the new APU were supposed to be RDNA 3? P.S. Neither Amazon nor Newegg has these for sale yet. Maybe a Christmas build is in my future?
The next generation of APUs should get RDNA3
But the standard current 7000 gets RDNA2 iGPU
@@bromine_35
Which is meh ...
Even AMD themself said that it just there for a display options and troubleshooting.
@@fajaradi1223 well it's still gonna be better than Intel igpus, if anything its definitely a nice to have if it doesn't impact performance much. Run a side monitor off it or something
they just added a more basic igpu to their standard processors (notice these dont have the G affix). which is great honestly because fuck troubleshooting GPU/mobo issues without an igpu to isolate if the problem is the GPU.
Nice video. I'm staying on my AM4 build for now. Maybe after the 3D-Vcache parts come out.
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Tried Ryzen Master to use game mode with my 7950x. Upon reset, PC wouldn't boot or even post. Just dead with a red led on the mobo. Took clearing the cmos twice and another 5 boot attempts before I got it back. Don't think im messing anymore with Ryzen Master.
Just what I imagined. At first sight it is exciting to have access to Ryzen Master but I wish I could just set it up and get going. Instead, after watching this now I feel lost and confused about how reliable is this
I have never been happy with generic AMD drivers. Always have problems unless I download from mobo vendor
now i really dont know what to do...i have a i5 8400 and a 1060 6gb...i usually upgrade every 3 years...wanted to upgrade when 3000 droped but you know...now i was waiting for new amd everything to upgrade (7000 and 7000) but now that i see pricing and everything it doesnt make sense now...but buying new components late next year after i went for 5000 now doesnt sit well with me...with am5 i would be kinda future proof for a while but the early adopter price tag is kinda harsh. while the other problem is that the 5800x3d isnt that cheap also :( but i would save a buck on mb and ram...pls send help (only a gamer/ with vr also for info)
To be honest unless you buy a super super high end GPU the 5800x will definitely serve you well. Honestly buy a used 3700x and a b550 motherboard you can always upgrade later and save a boat load of cash 🍻
I would get 13600k with 4080 12gb if I were you.
this is a new socket and a new series of CPUs at the same time. 3 months or so and we will start seeing the budget friendly boards come out. DDR5 is still probably going to cost a lot though.
I suggest maybe getting your new GPU once both sides drop, then holding off a little on the CPU until the dust settles?
Can we expect these at midnight??
I will wait for Ryzen 7800x3d
nah
If you did great choice best CPU rn for games
@@__alves_ I somehow ended up for 13900k but waiting now for 9800x3d
@@x32i77 ohh and how is the CPU doing? Thermal issues?
@@__alves_ no doing fine with water-cooling 🙂
Delid !! Holy moly, does it help a ton. Debauer got 20c less after direct die cooling with a 360 rad, running at just over 70c 🥰 used 15w less as well
How abt using eco mode ?
@@sudeshryan8707 It's good but it'll make you lose performance.
First thing I did was got the 9800x3d and enabled xpo and then looked up how to remove memory training
What
Great video I think its the perfect time to consider Ryzen 5800x3d
If its true that the price will be the same as 5000 series then im willing to wait a few more months for the reviews come in and when stock reaches here
The Motherboard costed me a kidney
@@adrienbrown438 i got plenty to spare
@@adrienbrown438
Nah dude ...
Don't sell your kidneys for these. Just post some random vids to onlyfans. Who knows you might get some juicy dolla dolla bill from it.
@@ap1c May I have one or two.
Please
I've had motherboard manufacturers strictly have you install their chipset first for compatibility issues. (I've never experienced an issue, either way.)
I signed up for meld alerts weeks ago and still haven’t received a email . Didn’t ryzen just release ? No email
I already received my meld alert email for this release. Maybe check your spam folder?
@Oystersnag I got the email like 1 hour after after I posted that comment . So maybe I was just being impatient
@@MikeyDfromTN completely understandable. Glad you got it eventually though!
funny, in UK on overclockers, you can buy new CPUs, but there aren't any AM5 mobos
First thing is buy wife flowers. Going to be an expensive credit card bill
nah, wife also wanted 7600x :D all good
The first thing i will do is start and pauze this video on a regulair base
what am i even doing here, i still have a 10th gen i5 and likely won't be able to afford any new CPU untill next year
Its next year, Ready up!
I will wait a bit before getting one. Until all the hiccups are over.
undervolted and reduced the core clock on my 7950
11 though ?
I’ve got 6400mhz ram, is it still to cap it at 6000 on the 7700x?
AMD stated 6000 is the hard cap for zen 4 the memory controller can’t go any higher
Just got a 7950x with an MSI b650 Mag Tomahawk Wifi. I've been using the box version of the bios for a few weeks now. Is that a poor idea for any reason? Is there a benefit to updating the bios? (kinda new to all this)
update the bios asap
As long as you don't plan to do overlooking, and as long as bios doesn't allow soc voltage more than 1.3 it should be OK for most.
Buy a fire extinguisher
OMG ITS HAPPENING GUYS, IT'S HAPPENING.
2 sticks of 32GB 5200 MT/s cl 30 can run at 5200 MT/s. 4x16GB 5200 MT/s cl 30 will only run at 3600 MT/s. Does anyone know if 4x 3600 can be translated to 14400 MT/s and if then it will be faster than 2x 5200 what could be 10400 MT/s or is the math that both have 64GB but the one has overall 5200 MT/s and the other one just 3600 MT/s. I just don't know how ram speed works with 1, 2 or 4 inserted sticks on a AM5 board and if any application can benefit from 4 slower but half sized sticks more than from 2 faster but bigger sticks. I thought with DDR4 I was faster when I inserted 4 Sticks in Davinci resolve, but all of them had been at 3200 cl16. Here I am afraid that 4x 16GB 3600 cl 30 DDR5 could be slower than 4x 16GB 3200 cl16 DDR4. Hope someone can test this, or someone already knows the answer. I think 4x16GB is cheaper than 2x32GB, now if it is also faster or no difference, then it would be a way to go.
HUB did a quick test with 2 vs 4 dimms in their 7600x review. Check it out.
is the ryzen 7700 compatible with the rtx 3080?
you're not serious, are you?
@@Catson91 maybe he just steps into PC world. Cut him some slacks, will ya?
Mr. E, not a problem.
@@madarasoun3018 nice thanks
@@madarasoun3018 yea never had a pc. Just saving up to get my very first!
No, YOU have a great day!
The first thing I did with mine was toss it in the woodchipper. It felt good.
First thing is to disable the E cores.(intel) and find ECC ram
This ain't Intel, AMD is all P cores and no E cores
@@kerbodynamicx472 I see that. I still don't know if windoes 10 will support it.
Why'd you want to disable E cores (Intel) ?
@@sudeshryan8707 Windows 10 sees all cores as the same. so it schedules them for all tasks. and that slows things down.
@@LaserFur the i3-1220P with E cores 4-times more than P core:
amd 7995XyT: combyne cpu+gpu as on one socket:
cut one of 8 core out: and input into one gpu die:
connect cpu and gpu by L3 infi catch = 128MB or more:
i love amd;
Well I won't do what anyone else says on these video I went to download from that amd just like he said ya my pc all messed up
Cool video... but at 3:30 timestamp, he recommends an AMD app called "Ryzen Master" which is not listed on AMD's downloads... at least not for my new Ryzen 7 7700X.. in fact I can't find it listed for ANY of the Ryzen 7, 7000 series processors... So this video is recommending non-existent software... or software that AMD itself, does not allow downloads for... For that specific processor series.
Great I can spend 800 bucks before I even get to look a cpu and that's a motherboard and ddr5
First tip is to have rich parents
Step 1: sell left kidney
Don't upgrade if you have less than 3gen cpu.
Then windows update fudge it all, and you have to reinstall your windows eventually. Thanks Microsoft!
First thing to do: Dont buy Zen4
Second thing to do: Wait for Zen4D
Just get a 5800x3d for gaming as you will get cheaper parts or end up paying early adopter tax for ddr5, and am5 motherboard.
and you're losing the ability to upgrade your system + not everyone is a gaymer
@@xslvrxslwt exclusively for gaming, the hardware will last for 7 to 10 years of games, with maybe a gpu upgrade.
@@xslvrxslwt good enough for casual wannabe PROfessionals.
Personally I'll go with a decent mobo + 7600x as I'm looking to build right now and upgrade to 3d soon after, not the most economically correct plan but I'll be set then
Looking forward to a 7900X build for productivity.
Exclusive for gaming 12600k is the best
Amd with new generation is a disaster
nah
@@arthurgamerpro6585 stop fanboying
@@duck6966 what pobleam new amd?
@@arthurgamerpro6585 look at mobo price,ryzen 7 7700X system cost more than 13th gen i9 system now
they overtook intel in Marketplace,the games are gone,now they are the Nvidia of CPU industry
@@arthurgamerpro6585 no problem,just bad pricing
If everyone donates $1 to me i can build a am5 pc
Worst platform... ever... and Intel isn't any better.
INstall 4 DIMMs, your memory speed drops down to 3600, negating all the befits of DDR5 but you stillg et the cost. EFI BIOS is slow as molasses to boot up, and getting Legacy Mode to boot a Windows 7 installer you've loaded up with USB drivers... is a nightmare... because guess what, EFI don't display any VGA text at all when it's doing anything but booting itself. It's a clusterfvck. 90% of the time you're looking at a black screen waiting 40 seconds for the system to boot to BIOS... or not. NO press F1 for BIOS, nothing. No logo splash screen... no beeps until a bagillion years later.
What motherboard brand did you opt for the AM5 platform? Can't be that bad right?
@@BravoSixGoingDark IT was that bad. It hit off with problems flashign the BIOS and incompatible pairs of DIMMs from the very start. Surprise, yo can't mix two different pairs of DIMMs on DDR5. You will black screen all the time and not even boot reliably. DDR1-4.. not a problem. DDR5 - nope,.
The worst problem right now is getting a working operating system on it. Windows 7 won't install even thought I've tried every trick int he book to make Windows 7 run on "modern" hardware. Modern my a55. What a bad joke. Running Zorin OS on it temporarily right now. My best an only option seems to be to run Windows 10 on it with OpenSHell, to try and beat into sort of working like Windows 7 in look and feel.
It's been a night mare. $2,000 in PC parts built into a finally working hardware machine I can't use for video editing because I can't get Windows on it. Still using my good old reliable FX-8350 to render videos... The comptuer industry needs to get their SH1T together, particularly mMicrosoft. If you got billions of dollars and made some of the world's most popular OS's, support them forever. Stop waving your hands and pronouncing this product is now obsolete arbitrarily, when it clearly isn't.
Sent from a Windows 7 machien tricked out and running great on n FX-8350. With a 7950x sitting idle doing jack 20 feet away.
@@choppergirl Would G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6000 CL30-38-38-96 1.35V be a better choice in dual channel on AM5 platforms paired with a 7800X3D on a MSI mobo?
@@BravoSixGoingDark I couldn't tell you, I went with a 7950x and 128gb of Corsair Dominator C40 Intel Optimized RAM.
Whatever ram you buy, if you go 4 sticks make sure all 4 sticks EXACTLY match each other down to the controller chip on the DIMM (you can find the info on the detailed ram page in BIOS).
I started with one pair of Corsair Dominator and one pair of Corsair Vengeance, and boy was I in non-boot loop h377. Until I realized, there was no way to get them to play together, because one set used a Micron controller, and the other set used a Samsung controller on board.
The RAM is no longer the problem, getting a decent OS ont he computer is turning out to being more frustrating that it's worth. A $3000 computer that can not install WIndows 7, NT, XP, or even 95.
The hardware is rock solid, it's Microsoft that is the d1psh1t in this case. I got WInd 10 installer, but I don't want it on my comptuer. Running Zorin OS currently.
@@choppergirl Thank you for sharing this insight.
Who is this video for lol?
installing windows is basically downgrading your cpu, lol
Write ur own OS man 🤓
SERIOUS HARD PASS ON INTEGRATED GPUS HAD THAT IN FRIENDS LAPTOP AND IT WAS TERRIBLE
JUST AWFUL
But they aren't really for gaming
@@british-tea7677
so what your saying is the entire line up of 7000 amd cpus is NO LONGER FOR GAMING
good job
hand it all to intel ROFL
just get out of gpu market as well then right?
wow just bloody wow this whole last few years shows utter shitshow stupid ceos across the board
ill add that latop was also utter garbage for even using it for development cause that shitshow desktop kept trying ot use less gpu then you had its like wtf amd
nice move to the bin
Every single laptop on the market has integrated graphics.
@@rzul
not the way the one that amd had with a 540 in it that hampered using the actual card it was sad
it was so hard to use the actual card ya had to start messing round in bios and even then an update would have ya do it again
terrible
and while i get they have integrated this is not just having integrated its how its implemented
Raptor lake or gtfo
yes
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Why do you talk as if you're struggling to stop yourself from doing a Southern accent?
First thing to do is after you build your ryzen setup, preorder a intel 13th gen raptor lake cpu. 😂
Well now, this comment didn't age well.
@@karlstenator y u on this videeo n looking at comments on top of that. The 9000 series is here😂 . I think it was a joke, AMD was always much better
@@Sideways_Singh looking at replacing my Intel 2600K. Almost 15 years old now... but still runs without a hitch... I will miss it. I'm thinking of going with a X670 AORUS ELITE AX. Need to sleep on it.