Cryolator in VATS also has the homing effect like Auto Grenade Launcher has because the bullets "Snowballs" are slow moving objects so if you use them on SB and SBQ while they are flying they are like heat seaking misiles 🙈 Cryolator is one of the most underrated weapons also because a freezing target will take increased damage from everything. Edit: Another fun fact with the Cryolator is that it dosnt really get a damage boost by being bloodied over full health builds, you will get close to the same damage numbers as full health builds, why? I do not know 🤷♂️
Agreed, I have a Q2525 cryolator and it is INSANE against the queen. It doesn’t matter if she’s flying or if she’s on the ground, she will freeze up very quickly in our out of vats.
@@danielstokker that’s her chance is what it is if it says you have 85% chance then regardless of whether it’s moving the projectiles are going to hit that’s what rats does that’s why a grenade launcher for instance, which is basically a lobbying weapon can hit shit that moves the missle watcher while you may think that it has attitudinal controls. Without the addition of the ultra heavy targeting computer and using that method the lock on when you use that’s the lock and they’re not guided they’re just flying to the target but since you use that with a 95% chance or whatever they’re going to hit
I made a build a few days ago with this weapon i use a Quad cryolator instead of the TS 😊 Edit: i even made a PvP video while using this weapon, so a build guide video and also a PvP video 😊
@@FoxyRaven-TV i was killed by someone using this weapon! Ngl I thought they were cheating for a while because I was literally onetapped and couldn't even see them
@@itsmel7650 They are insainly OP in PvP as players cant have much Cryo resistance, same with Alien Blaster with cryo mod its insainly OP in PvP 😊 My IGN is RainOfChihuahuas 😊
I’ve had a 2* TSFFR Cryolator sitting in my stash for ages! Never used it, but couldn’t get rid of it either. Now I understand what I’ve been holding on to it for. Thanks as always Turtle!
Love using my quad version for when SBQ lands. Freeze her in place and you get loads of mobs spawning, great for melee builds to get damage on her. Will definitely try rolling a two shot. Thanks Mr T 🐢😍
I got a 2 shot with 25 % damage while aiming only 2 star but im not re-roling this one it does a a shitload of damage certainly when im in PA and thus have 45% armor penetration then it just gets crazy 🤣🤣
Okay. I just watched the video. God, you are going into details that no one can ever think of. Demolition expert advise just blew me away. No wonder you are the one and only Turtle
After using a Cryo build for a few days with this exact rolled Cryolator, it is very fun and powerful BUT I've noticed it only seems to be powerful on squishy targets. Robots, Aliens and Mirelurk Kings and Queens (even targeted at their squishy bits) seem to tank the snowballs like crazy and I have to pull out my Enclave Flamer to finish them off instead.
You've stumbled onto my build I've been calling my Cryo Commando. I got a TSFFR25%LV drop a couple months ago, and discovered it was crazy good. I did not realize that Demo Expert buffed this! I have been using it as my main because it is fun, it's really easy to maintain ammo, and it's good for queen battles. I run it with Psychopath, and can take out chains of basic enemies in one VATS trigger.
I noticed this for a few weeks now. So this is my number one heavy weapon to use. Use it with the magazine and big guns bubblehead, doing about 87 on card, but reality is doing Close to 200 per hit. Super mutants die in 2 shots sometimes 🤣
could you do a video compilating the best two legendary effects for every weapon? Like, which would be the best ones for Gatling Guns, Gatling Plasmas, etc? kind of a compilation or brief summary
Totally depend on you build. If you are a junky build, junky is king with ffr. If you are bloodied then bloodied or vamp will be king with explosive bullets and or vats hit chance or less ap cost but again totally depend on what kind of build you are, same for full health builds, AA will be good there if you arent a full health junky build, you can even combine something like bloodied junky. Some people also like aristrocrats. Armor and weapon legendary effects are build around you perk card build really. Edit: A junky build is not just a junky build, there is many ways to build a junky build, same with bloodied, full health and so on and so on, some weapons and legendary effects will work great on one junky or full health or bloodied build but not so great on another junky or full health or bloodied build.
Oh, and they fixed how launchers damage works some time ago, explains why I suddenly got a lot more damage from that weapon, I sometimes used it as low damage tag weapon, but suddenly it started one-shotting scorched
After your vid i found a guy selling a TS/25 Cryolator for only 10K at his Vendor, got very lucky, this gun just destroys enemies like nothing and is so fun to use definitely a must have for full hp heavy gunners, also really great to use in Pitt Expeditions farming ammo. The only thing i noticed is that the Turrets mounted on ceilings in the nuke silo seem to tank every single shot of this weapon.
Amazing detective work on this one. I've always loved the potential of the cryolator for themes builds. How can you have a cryo weapon amd power armor in the game and not think "Mr. Freeze"
This is the most awesome weapon and has become my most used by far since discovering it after 500 levels of play. I consider it a "heavy gunners Fixer" because it feels like a rifle. It's just so great. I have a TS/50VHC/AP version and that is great. But then I found one just like this...TS/FFR/BS and it's just amazing. The FFR transforms the weapon even further. Highly recommended for any heavy gun build that wants a lighter feeling, versatile, and powerful weapon. Amazing to use in VAT'S, great range, and in VAT'S the projectiles are homing. I always thought the Cryolator a niche weapon. An oddball. But the Crystallizing Barrel changes all that. TS kicks it to a new level. TS FFR? One of the most effective weapons in '76...period.
The thing about using this in vats in power armor is it shoes through fusion course I mean I tested it for a couple hours the other day I burned like 11 fusion cores and I was using it mostly in power armor most of it I’ve burned up killing like 43 or four scorched beast, anamile or queen using vats I Irene Grand in Dan miler queen I didn’t need baths at the Scorpius landed. I didn’t need vats by the vets. Just make sure you’re you hit your target all the time and you know with Cora soundly on the armor I was wearing I always had AP IT WASN’T TILL I WAS DONE I REALIZE JUST HOW MANY FUSION CARS I HAD BURN THROUGH WHY I DON’T THINK THIS IS REALLY A VIABLE WEAPON IN VATS IN POWER ARMOR, EXCEPT OCCASIONALLY TURTLE IS DOING IT RIGHT MOSTLY JUST START FIRING FREE FORM WITHOUT VATS IT’S STILL JUST AS A FACT IF YOU JUST USE IT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL ALL THE TIME AND THEN THE RECALL DOESN’T EVEN REALLY MATTER
Interesting. So, since this is "mostly" a launcher, would it be any good against reflective skin mutations in Daily Ops? I started using the Nuka-Launcher and sometimes the Boomstick, both made a huge difference in survival with savage strike + reflective skin. Don't much care for the Tesla, not spec'd for small guns anyway.
I have that gun. I will try it. I usually use a quad for ammo capacity. But then again I’m using it in pvp. Taking out all the jet pack on the arm emergency protocol squatters in their power armor
By the way, the crowd later and some of the other weapons like this actually I think maybe only the cry later does this as far as the snowball effect on the weapons the cry later fires a cryo- shard where where do you get Krauthamer your fires a single shot where you get a snowball that does an explosive damage part and a cryo-damage part so the explosive damage part is probably the largest part of the damage it was for me anyway because I only had the two points in each of my have a gun or cards so I wasn’t maxed out on every gun damage My point is this is probably another one of those weapons like the ghost shotgun. Where are you can go off just the explosive damage with demo, expert and grenadier and even though you’re not expecting to have your guns that won’t matter it won’t matter but not a lot mom on the garage kind of matters not a little bit because you don’t charge the weapon anyway so all of the damage you’re doing with the guy shotgun is from explosions, that’s the way most people play that weapon this weapon you don’t have to charge so you’re going to get the crowd damage the matter what it is but in my case I’m pretty sure the explosive damage was higher was the higher of the two so I had two numbers at at at a higher level enter numbers in a lower level I think the lower level was the cryo-damage but getting my point is you probably don’t have to speck into this to get the explosive damage but if you wanna get the most out of it, then you’re gonna wanna speck into heavy guns to increase the crowd damage and demo expert to increase the explosive damage.
Since the damage appears to be mostly from the explosive effect, how do you think one of these would function as a backup ranged weapon to a shotgun build? I'm currently specced for grenade usage as a ranged weapon, but grenades don't hit flying scorchbeasts that well without some VATS targeting finesse. Or are the heavy gunner perks still mandatory despite the explosive effect seeming to make up the majority of its damage? Bare in mind it is a backup and not a primary, something to widdle health down and potentially arrest enemies in place until I can get in close for the real damage.
Is the two shot still working properly for freezing the SBQ? I know two shot got broken on gamma guns doing double rads last update. I have a two shot, 25, 15r Cryolator that I was using for ammo efficiency, but I also have a Q 25.
Follow-through will trigger ternal, but even if you get a direct hit I mean it’ll trigger but the damage from a grenade is one point of ballistic damage so you know what are you boosting exactly how many grenade launchers when they hit the one point of ballistic and then of course they do their explosive I’ve never really paid attention, but I’m getting the ballistic damage from a missle is the same probably one point of ballistic and then the rest is explosive.
You said similarities with launchers, and that got me thinking. In the future update we will get mutation Invasion, does this still include the reflect damage one? If so, is the crystalizing cryolator then safe to use during those events?
@@AlpHa-fw1dp Have you confirmed that the damage is reflected in the pts, or is that an assumption? Since i do not have the pts installed i can not test it my selfe.
I wonder if there would be any real significance to using the heavy gunner cards. My strength points are in short supply. If we are looking at close to 200 for damage from mini explosions and the heavy gunner perks are just going to add their percentages to the low listed base damage, it sounds like I can skip the heavy gunner cards. Or am I misunderstanding Turtle's info?
I just got a 2 star 2 shot and 25% damage while aiming im in love 😂😂😂❤❤❤ the damage is unreal certainly while aiming alot of spooky damage going on i cant see
I think a better comparison is Cryolator and alien blaster, because it seems like the interaction is identical. The reason, I think, why this is so good is because of the way energy damage is calculated with Two Shot. Being multiplicative instead of additive. So both the regular energy damage from the cryolator and alien blaster + the splash/explosive damage from crystallizing barrel and cryo mod are all treated as energy. Both the cryolator and ab have the same damage ID (cryo) in the game files. No matter how "good" you make the cryolator though, it's still really expensive in terms of ammo consumption and production.
I mean, is there quite literally a flamer when you use it with a standard barrel I mean when I say flame arriving the same type of animation, it’s blowing a crystal. The fog at the targets, freezing them and damaging them. It isn’t until you put the crystallizing barrel on, but it start shooting an actual projectile, right
Yeah, I played with that on custom worlds. I’m not going to waste resources rolling one, but the first time I get a drop of any kind of Trisha cry later on my route, give it a try on adventure make a barrel that I can now play mostly by stealth thing around saving ammo storing it up so that way there’s a queen or some thing and event I can jump in and get the stabilize benefit and not All the damage it’s a lot of fun the weapon is a lot of fun and somebody said it right hit it it’s like a gorilla cup I’m in a guerrilla commando weapon for power armor, so what it is you can run around just fire in like three shop versus everything I’m not actually sure faster fire rate is even necessary because even at full health everything but sports based on above died with three shots suffer the legendary super mutants those took a little more but still it was not ammo intensive especially if you’re sneaking, you literally get back more than you use
I had heard from a PvPer, this weapon is a good substitute for a legacy that was removed. I haven't tried it because I get dominated and tea bagged in PvP =)
You need good assassin's armour, preferably PA. Plus defensive and damage reduction perks as well as survivor or medic pump for auto-stimpacks plus stacking nukas for instant heal. And the real use for cryolator isn't the damage, its the freezing efect that slows down players wich the can be finished off with pulse mines, deadly on PA users.
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py Very interesting, thank you so much for that. I had no idea pulse mines were useful for much, thats good info. Basically Assassins full health build type of thing? Thank you!
it's good in PvP because Bethesda forgot to add cryo , fire , poison resistance to armors - you may want to hold on to Assassin / Cryo resistance pieces vs Cryolater users
@@keyboardking8008 The real threat from cryolators isn't the damage, wich is ok, its the freezing efect that slows you down making you vulnerable to the real killer, pulse grenades and mines because these bypass the 110 damage cap for pvp. Even in full health ass sen PA you'll lose 60% of your health from one of these. If you can't move because you're frozen you cant fire fast, pop nukas or stimpacks or jetpack away.
The power of snowballs that deal damage continuously as the pass through objects the bigger it is the more they hurt and slow the queen gets hit 5+ times per snowball it shoots
Would you lose alot of damage if you went for a quad? Am i right in saying 2 shot doubles the damage of explosive weapons because the 2nd projectile is 25% impact damage but 100% exposive damage?
does anyone know if the Quad cryo +300% ammo cap 25% dmg while aiming 100% movement speed while aiming is any good or should i try to get something different
🐢🐢Mr Turtle. More hot fresh news for you my friend has been running Berserker build for years. He signed on to the game and he's super upset because those Banners are repairing his armour. Rip to the Berserkers another build gone because you know they won't fix it!!!! Anyways thought you might be interested in this information maybe if you want to test or make a video hopefully Bethesda will fix it maybe allow hours to turn off the ability of receiving the battle banners because if it's fixing armour that's terrible for Berserkers!!!
Can you test the Mysterious Savior per card and see what other perk cards synergies with it? I'm curious to see if Spiritual Healer will proc on a self revive.
Hey Turtle, this is off topic of the video, but I was wondering if any of the explosive damage multiplier perk cards: i.e. Ordinance Express, Grenadier etc., effect explosive bullets?
I’m pretty positive demolition expert works the same on the enclave plasma flamer. Im pretty sure it’s considered explosive. I’ve tested it. You should test it out.
I kind of noticed when I played with this gone on a full health Bill then maybe had 11 lock given the prayer cards I normally have any luck and I was getting a credit every other rise shot. Anyway, I mean I was building a credit with every kill so if I used my credit, kill the critter, I would then I have a credit again for the next critter I mean it was relatively easy to always have a credit now, if you’re using it on a boss obviously wouldn’t necessarily get to say, Ma I’ll come, but I just think that it builds crate really fast
just tried this on PTS Demo expert isn't working... wasn't easy to get 2shot on the pts. I'm afraid to try on public server as the weapon isn't very good at the moment for me on pts
@@heinzerbrew pip boy numbers are broken on cryo in general, I was checking that on pts 4 weeks ago and it was working, hopefully they are not 'fixing' it
As of 3rd May 2024, My TS FFR cryolator now does only 25x2 dmg with crystallizing barrel and 36x2 with standard barrel (with 3x3 star heavy weap perk cards demo expert and grenadier) where it used to do 65 dmg with the 'x2' from the TS being "hidden". I suspect they have accidently nerfed this weapon by a huge amount with the 30th April update to the explosion dmg calculation on the Cremator's damage. It now hits like santa's drunken helper... Can Angry or someone else confirm ?
I wanna roll one up on custom worlds and try it out. It sounds like a fun weapon. If you can get the explosive Bruce from demo ask for it on it but speaking on daily apps, I have a dollar in a while and maybe I am alive misunderstanding how this works but when you get done with that the app before you click on the options to see what you got your switch for the web for new animal for correct And I did that I was looking for missiles and I switched to that weapon and I didn’t get shit I didn’t get any ammo at the end except I use the grenade launcher quite a bit during yeah but I got a bunch of grenades off looting, but I didn’t get any missiles when I switched and completed the app and watch the results
No, no no there’s more benefit to sneaking turtle. I am literally die when you’re just running and gunning you’re wasting ammo. I don’t maybe you’re better at it than me, but when I was running and gunning, I was like barely holding, even when I started sneaking around just tapping the trigger. You know one shot two shot three shot and I was dead. I would use three Kyle units but I would pick up six or nine or 14 cryo- units. My ammo was literally I grew my ammo by about 400 500 rounds until I went to Kelson scorch feast and shit like that and then I wasted a bunch of ammo, so the point is sneaking as another benefit if you need ammo when you don’t wanna spend money and resources, making it through Anna escape artist, and as many snake points is your confession and just sneak around conserving ammo, killing shit with his little shocked as you can you will grow your ham over it quickly
At the start of the video your dmg is showing as 61, but when you removed demo expert, it went up to 65. What happened here, why would the dmg number go up 4 points when you removed Demo Expert? My damage is showing as 61 and it doesn't get higher than that no matter what I try.
@@dontmatter5964 I also had myself in nerd rage and never got it up to 65. Even when I only had a sliver of hp left. Was it maybe leftover adrenaline from before he started recording?
I wish it was as good as it was in FO4. For me it has always been lackluster as it was probably my favorite FO4 playthrough weapon and I was jaded by how bad it is.
I started playing FO4 on release. I soon learned I wanted the Cryo early game. I play PC and it was always go get Dogmeat first, then get Cryo, then start game. Now I just console the case open, so I don't need to go back. First chance I get I add the crystalizing barrel.
Only issue I have is the weapon itself, the ammos expensive and in short numbers when crafted and the magazine is so low for it's fire rate, quad is recommended unless you like reloading after every mob kill even with it's lmg reload time
I use ammo crafter on .45 ammo and collect all ammo. When I have a load I run it through the ammo converter for cryo cells. Bit of a pain but low cost.
Turtle I was seeing significant damage increase from sneaking with covert operative. I don’t know what was different about my build. It’s nearly impossible to try and see the numbers and tell which ones are the explosive damage and which ones are the the the weapon damage because they’re all piled up on each other, but from our you know, looking at the one shot two shot three shot type test Things went from three shots down to two shots with sneaking and a full health. Build I wasn’t Donna stealth bill, Irina oh well health Build I was on a full health Bill. I still think most of the damage you’re getting from. This is the explosive a fact which means you know low health, Ohio state gang whatever you’re going to be getting roughly, the same damage all the time.
I am cancelling my Fallout 1st. My Slug Buster went missing at fasnacht when a bunch of people were using the same stash to store their loot. After spending 3 years supporting this game, I'm done. Best of luck with the channel, Turtle.
Cryolator in VATS also has the homing effect like Auto Grenade Launcher has because the bullets "Snowballs" are slow moving objects so if you use them on SB and SBQ while they are flying they are like heat seaking misiles 🙈
Cryolator is one of the most underrated weapons also because a freezing target will take increased damage from everything.
Edit: Another fun fact with the Cryolator is that it dosnt really get a damage boost by being bloodied over full health builds, you will get close to the same damage numbers as full health builds, why? I do not know 🤷♂️
Agreed, I have a Q2525 cryolator and it is INSANE against the queen. It doesn’t matter if she’s flying or if she’s on the ground, she will freeze up very quickly in our out of vats.
I love that homing
I hope they don't patch it out
I use the handheld grenade gun
I think every slow moving projectile does in this game the plasma caster does a great job ive seen bullets arc a couple of meters almost rediculous
@@velvetaeon2774 ow please god no🤣
@@danielstokker that’s her chance is what it is if it says you have 85% chance then regardless of whether it’s moving the projectiles are going to hit that’s what rats does that’s why a grenade launcher for instance, which is basically a lobbying weapon can hit shit that moves the missle watcher while you may think that it has attitudinal controls. Without the addition of the ultra heavy targeting computer and using that method the lock on when you use that’s the lock and they’re not guided they’re just flying to the target but since you use that with a 95% chance or whatever they’re going to hit
I’ve wanted to see a build around this weapon for a while, as I never see it used except at the SBQ fight on rare occasion.
I made a build a few days ago with this weapon i use a Quad cryolator instead of the TS 😊
Edit: i even made a PvP video while using this weapon, so a build guide video and also a PvP video 😊
@@FoxyRaven-TV i was killed by someone using this weapon! Ngl I thought they were cheating for a while because I was literally onetapped and couldn't even see them
@@itsmel7650 That might have been me 🙈
@@FoxyRaven-TV oooops
@@itsmel7650 They are insainly OP in PvP as players cant have much Cryo resistance, same with Alien Blaster with cryo mod its insainly OP in PvP 😊
My IGN is RainOfChihuahuas 😊
After I watched your live stream I crafted a Cryolator and luckily I got a TSffr, it is a beast! I didn’t know demo expert works with Cryolator!
I’ve had a 2* TSFFR Cryolator sitting in my stash for ages! Never used it, but couldn’t get rid of it either. Now I understand what I’ve been holding on to it for. Thanks as always Turtle!
Love using my quad version for when SBQ lands. Freeze her in place and you get loads of mobs spawning, great for melee builds to get damage on her. Will definitely try rolling a two shot. Thanks Mr T 🐢😍
ikr i love my quad cryo
@@caminherhard6927 I have one too!
Ammo sucks because crystal but the ammunition converter helps.
Just cripple her wings. She will stay on the ground permanently if you can keep them crippled. No cryo needed.
I got a 2 shot with 25 % damage while aiming only 2 star but im not re-roling this one it does a a shitload of damage certainly when im in PA and thus have 45% armor penetration then it just gets crazy 🤣🤣
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Okay. I just watched the video. God, you are going into details that no one can ever think of. Demolition expert advise just blew me away. No wonder you are the one and only Turtle
After using a Cryo build for a few days with this exact rolled Cryolator, it is very fun and powerful BUT I've noticed it only seems to be powerful on squishy targets. Robots, Aliens and Mirelurk Kings and Queens (even targeted at their squishy bits) seem to tank the snowballs like crazy and I have to pull out my Enclave Flamer to finish them off instead.
You've stumbled onto my build I've been calling my Cryo Commando. I got a TSFFR25%LV drop a couple months ago, and discovered it was crazy good. I did not realize that Demo Expert buffed this! I have been using it as my main because it is fun, it's really easy to maintain ammo, and it's good for queen battles. I run it with Psychopath, and can take out chains of basic enemies in one VATS trigger.
I noticed this for a few weeks now. So this is my number one heavy weapon to use. Use it with the magazine and big guns bubblehead, doing about 87 on card, but reality is doing Close to 200 per hit. Super mutants die in 2 shots sometimes 🤣
I used this gun for ages and loved it, then forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder 🐢 I'm going to grab out of stash and have some fun 👍
The one thing I've noticed about these videos; just about any weapon can be good/decent if you're bloodied build.
could you do a video compilating the best two legendary effects for every weapon? Like, which would be the best ones for Gatling Guns, Gatling Plasmas, etc? kind of a compilation or brief summary
Totally depend on you build.
If you are a junky build, junky is king with ffr.
If you are bloodied then bloodied or vamp will be king with explosive bullets and or vats hit chance or less ap cost but again totally depend on what kind of build you are, same for full health builds, AA will be good there if you arent a full health junky build, you can even combine something like bloodied junky. Some people also like aristrocrats.
Armor and weapon legendary effects are build around you perk card build really.
Edit: A junky build is not just a junky build, there is many ways to build a junky build, same with bloodied, full health and so on and so on, some weapons and legendary effects will work great on one junky or full health or bloodied build but not so great on another junky or full health or bloodied build.
Oh, and they fixed how launchers damage works some time ago, explains why I suddenly got a lot more damage from that weapon, I sometimes used it as low damage tag weapon, but suddenly it started one-shotting scorched
Does this still work the same now? Demo expert and grenadier on crystallizing barrel?
yes it does
The first time I saw snowballs flying by I thought I imagined it.
Never would have considered this weapon. Thanks 🍻
I have that same one been using it way before we lost our legendary weapons. Awesome video thanks
I've been using this weapon past week or two against scorched queen.. works really well with the snowballs
After your vid i found a guy selling a TS/25 Cryolator for only 10K at his Vendor, got very lucky, this gun just destroys enemies like nothing and is so fun to use definitely a must have for full hp heavy gunners, also really great to use in Pitt Expeditions farming ammo. The only thing i noticed is that the Turrets mounted on ceilings in the nuke silo seem to tank every single shot of this weapon.
I use a Quad one quite a bit and really like it. Wonder how Quad and 2 shot compare.
I love the idea of a snowball fight with Super Mutants 😂🎉
damn now my secret op weapon will be nerffed
Amazing detective work on this one. I've always loved the potential of the cryolator for themes builds. How can you have a cryo weapon amd power armor in the game and not think "Mr. Freeze"
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I like using different and more fun weapons so cryolator is right up my alley. Any other tips for full health build?
This is the most awesome weapon and has become my most used by far since discovering it after 500 levels of play. I consider it a "heavy gunners Fixer" because it feels like a rifle. It's just so great. I have a TS/50VHC/AP version and that is great. But then I found one just like this...TS/FFR/BS and it's just amazing. The FFR transforms the weapon even further. Highly recommended for any heavy gun build that wants a lighter feeling, versatile, and powerful weapon. Amazing to use in VAT'S, great range, and in VAT'S the projectiles are homing. I always thought the Cryolator a niche weapon. An oddball. But the Crystallizing Barrel changes all that. TS kicks it to a new level. TS FFR? One of the most effective weapons in '76...period.
The thing about using this in vats in power armor is it shoes through fusion course I mean I tested it for a couple hours the other day I burned like 11 fusion cores and I was using it mostly in power armor most of it I’ve burned up killing like 43 or four scorched beast, anamile or queen using vats I Irene Grand in Dan miler queen I didn’t need baths at the Scorpius landed. I didn’t need vats by the vets. Just make sure you’re you hit your target all the time and you know with Cora soundly on the armor I was wearing I always had AP IT WASN’T TILL I WAS DONE I REALIZE JUST HOW MANY FUSION CARS I HAD BURN THROUGH WHY I DON’T THINK THIS IS REALLY A VIABLE WEAPON IN VATS IN POWER ARMOR, EXCEPT OCCASIONALLY TURTLE IS DOING IT RIGHT MOSTLY JUST START FIRING FREE FORM WITHOUT VATS IT’S STILL JUST AS A FACT IF YOU JUST USE IT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL ALL THE TIME AND THEN THE RECALL DOESN’T EVEN REALLY MATTER
Interesting. So, since this is "mostly" a launcher, would it be any good against reflective skin mutations in Daily Ops? I started using the Nuka-Launcher and sometimes the Boomstick, both made a huge difference in survival with savage strike + reflective skin. Don't much care for the Tesla, not spec'd for small guns anyway.
I have a Q25 90 RW cryolator I use it for freezing the SBQ
I have that gun. I will try it. I usually use a quad for ammo capacity. But then again I’m using it in pvp. Taking out all the jet pack on the arm emergency protocol squatters in their power armor
By the way, the crowd later and some of the other weapons like this actually I think maybe only the cry later does this as far as the snowball effect on the weapons the cry later fires a cryo- shard where where do you get Krauthamer your fires a single shot where you get a snowball that does an explosive damage part and a cryo-damage part so the explosive damage part is probably the largest part of the damage it was for me anyway because I only had the two points in each of my have a gun or cards so I wasn’t maxed out on every gun damage My point is this is probably another one of those weapons like the ghost shotgun. Where are you can go off just the explosive damage with demo, expert and grenadier and even though you’re not expecting to have your guns that won’t matter it won’t matter but not a lot mom on the garage kind of matters not a little bit because you don’t charge the weapon anyway so all of the damage you’re doing with the guy shotgun is from explosions, that’s the way most people play that weapon this weapon you don’t have to charge so you’re going to get the crowd damage the matter what it is but in my case I’m pretty sure the explosive damage was higher was the higher of the two so I had two numbers at at at a higher level enter numbers in a lower level I think the lower level was the cryo-damage but getting my point is you probably don’t have to speck into this to get the explosive damage but if you wanna get the most out of it, then you’re gonna wanna speck into heavy guns to increase the crowd damage and demo expert to increase the explosive damage.
It's the same with Alien Blaster, use a Ts with frost mod on it.
Like watching the videos. Keep up good work. Haven't decided on my build yet but getting some good insights.
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I found a vampire ffr faster reload cryo from a random blood eagle lol. I always use it on the queen because the flying away is annoying
Since the damage appears to be mostly from the explosive effect, how do you think one of these would function as a backup ranged weapon to a shotgun build? I'm currently specced for grenade usage as a ranged weapon, but grenades don't hit flying scorchbeasts that well without some VATS targeting finesse. Or are the heavy gunner perks still mandatory despite the explosive effect seeming to make up the majority of its damage? Bare in mind it is a backup and not a primary, something to widdle health down and potentially arrest enemies in place until I can get in close for the real damage.
I love the snow cryo, it's best to use a 25ffr 25lvc in stealth, it's amazing. I made a video about it vs bosses about 2 months ago
I been using a 2s cryo for 3 years and did notice a nice bonus on it over the spray
Is the two shot still working properly for freezing the SBQ? I know two shot got broken on gamma guns doing double rads last update. I have a two shot, 25, 15r Cryolator that I was using for ammo efficiency, but I also have a Q 25.
Yess, seems like is time to start using my long waiting Quad Cryolator. Great video! 👍🏽
Follow-through will trigger ternal, but even if you get a direct hit I mean it’ll trigger but the damage from a grenade is one point of ballistic damage so you know what are you boosting exactly how many grenade launchers when they hit the one point of ballistic and then of course they do their explosive I’ve never really paid attention, but I’m getting the ballistic damage from a missle is the same probably one point of ballistic and then the rest is explosive.
Once again Turtle dies to show you unknown powers of a weapon.
Thank You for your sacrifice Turtle.
Neat. Is there no stream today?
You said similarities with launchers, and that got me thinking. In the future update we will get mutation Invasion, does this still include the reflect damage one? If so, is the crystalizing cryolator then safe to use during those events?
U can kill your self quicly bc cyro damage
@@AlpHa-fw1dp Have you confirmed that the damage is reflected in the pts, or is that an assumption? Since i do not have the pts installed i can not test it my selfe.
@@Gremalkin1979 its most likely similar with EEW weapons
I wonder if there would be any real significance to using the heavy gunner cards. My strength points are in short supply. If we are looking at close to 200 for damage from mini explosions and the heavy gunner perks are just going to add their percentages to the low listed base damage, it sounds like I can skip the heavy gunner cards. Or am I misunderstanding Turtle's info?
you could downgrade to 3 one star cards
@@AngryTurtle Yep, solid advice turtle, I only use 3 one star for all my strength based cards
I just got a 2 star 2 shot and 25% damage while aiming im in love 😂😂😂❤❤❤ the damage is unreal certainly while aiming alot of spooky damage going on i cant see
I think a better comparison is Cryolator and alien blaster, because it seems like the interaction is identical. The reason, I think, why this is so good is because of the way energy damage is calculated with Two Shot. Being multiplicative instead of additive.
So both the regular energy damage from the cryolator and alien blaster + the splash/explosive damage from crystallizing barrel and cryo mod are all treated as energy.
Both the cryolator and ab have the same damage ID (cryo) in the game files.
No matter how "good" you make the cryolator though, it's still really expensive in terms of ammo consumption and production.
You can farm the ammo if it's an easy daily ops mutation or in the Pitt
Ts 50 crit alien blaster is fantastic with the cryo receiver. Loved using mine for a while.
I mean, is there quite literally a flamer when you use it with a standard barrel I mean when I say flame arriving the same type of animation, it’s blowing a crystal. The fog at the targets, freezing them and damaging them. It isn’t until you put the crystallizing barrel on, but it start shooting an actual projectile, right
I have a 2-shot, reduced weight Cryolator that is a perfect addition to my VATS Heavy Gunner build.
Rip legacy
@@fivenotewonder I had a legacy Cryolator and the only thing it was good for was killing myself in close.
Yeah, I played with that on custom worlds. I’m not going to waste resources rolling one, but the first time I get a drop of any kind of Trisha cry later on my route, give it a try on adventure make a barrel that I can now play mostly by stealth thing around saving ammo storing it up so that way there’s a queen or some thing and event I can jump in and get the stabilize benefit and not All the damage it’s a lot of fun the weapon is a lot of fun and somebody said it right hit it it’s like a gorilla cup I’m in a guerrilla commando weapon for power armor, so what it is you can run around just fire in like three shop versus everything I’m not actually sure faster fire rate is even necessary because even at full health everything but sports based on above died with three shots suffer the legendary super mutants those took a little more but still it was not ammo intensive especially if you’re sneaking, you literally get back more than you use
Ts/ffr is the fastest freezing combo you can get. Boost damage with a big gun bobble and astoundingly awesome tales 5 🍻
The demolition expert perk card effect to this weapon is insane
Bloody faster fire rate good without that crystal barrel ?? And do I need the grenade perk and demo ??
I had heard from a PvPer, this weapon is a good substitute for a legacy that was removed. I haven't tried it because I get dominated and tea bagged in PvP =)
You need good assassin's armour, preferably PA. Plus defensive and damage reduction perks as well as survivor or medic pump for auto-stimpacks plus stacking nukas for instant heal. And the real use for cryolator isn't the damage, its the freezing efect that slows down players wich the can be finished off with pulse mines, deadly on PA users.
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py Very interesting, thank you so much for that. I had no idea pulse mines were useful for much, thats good info. Basically Assassins full health build type of thing? Thank you!
it's good in PvP because Bethesda forgot to add cryo , fire , poison resistance to armors
- you may want to hold on to Assassin / Cryo resistance pieces vs Cryolater users
@@keyboardking8008 The real threat from cryolators isn't the damage, wich is ok, its the freezing efect that slows you down making you vulnerable to the real killer, pulse grenades and mines because these bypass the 110 damage cap for pvp. Even in full health ass sen PA you'll lose 60% of your health from one of these. If you can't move because you're frozen you cant fire fast, pop nukas or stimpacks or jetpack away.
Cryolator is amazing. If the rest of the group in SBQ/Colossus can dps, then I whip out my Two Shot Cryolator to slow those mf's and hold the aggro.
The power of snowballs that deal damage continuously as the pass through objects the bigger it is the more they hurt and slow the queen gets hit 5+ times per snowball it shoots
Traded for a TS2590 a while back. It's a beast with full demo expert and cards and bobble.
Would you lose alot of damage if you went for a quad? Am i right in saying 2 shot doubles the damage of explosive weapons because the 2nd projectile is 25% impact damage but 100% exposive damage?
yes
I love using my bloodied fast fire rate crystallized cryo. It is a beast but just goes through ammo like crazy.
New Meta unlocked.
snowball meta
Can anyone confirm this is still the better roll atm for this build? Even when im bloodied?
yes ts remains the best for snowballs
@@AngryTurtlethanks turtle
I just got a quad Inertial LVC cryolator, is it a scrip?
quad is second best after two shot
does anyone know if the Quad cryo +300% ammo cap 25% dmg while aiming 100% movement speed while aiming is any good or should i try to get something different
depends how you want to use it, for crystallising barrel and snow master build you need two shot
What’s the best now I just bought bloody mod should I add faster fire rate and crystallizing barrel ?
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Hi turtle, in pvp mode without vats, which barrel is the best option? Thanks
for pvp you need both flamer short range snowballs medium range
@@AngryTurtle Thanks...so 2 cryolator in my inventory. My god ehehe I have big weight problem ahahah
Can you test the Mysterious Savior per card and see what other perk cards synergies with it? I'm curious to see if Spiritual Healer will proc on a self revive.
Is this weapon worth using with a full health build? What perks/leggo effects would help full health do comparable damage to bloody?
I will probably use alien blaster for full health
Does higher luck give you better hit % or better rewards dropped?
faster crit refill
Thank you.
Hey Turtle, this is off topic of the video, but I was wondering if any of the explosive damage multiplier perk cards: i.e. Ordinance Express, Grenadier etc., effect explosive bullets?
mostly yes
That explains why some weapons feel way more powerful than others even thought the damage numbers suck.
It comes down to the damage cap there was a while ago, and some weapons got hit hard with a nerf
I’m pretty positive demolition expert works the same on the enclave plasma flamer. Im pretty sure it’s considered explosive. I’ve tested it. You should test it out.
i will
i will
How does it stack up against stealt alien 2stot cryo weapon builds? What's the best?
never compared the two
I kind of noticed when I played with this gone on a full health Bill then maybe had 11 lock given the prayer cards I normally have any luck and I was getting a credit every other rise shot. Anyway, I mean I was building a credit with every kill so if I used my credit, kill the critter, I would then I have a credit again for the next critter I mean it was relatively easy to always have a credit now, if you’re using it on a boss obviously wouldn’t necessarily get to say, Ma I’ll come, but I just think that it builds crate really fast
How do you get the mod crystalizing barrel...
scrapping weapons
Is the anti-armor effect good on a cryolator?
yes but for snowballs two shot is best
@@AngryTurtle thanks for letting me know. Love the build tutorials they really helped me out
It's like the TSE Flamer's little brother. 🙃
And this is why I hoard legendary weapons LOL
i got a Quad ffr , a weapon that pvp must have
From what I've been told Tank Killer also works with cryolator
🤔 really?
@@AngryTurtle been told by a few different people in the PVP world
just tried this on PTS Demo expert isn't working... wasn't easy to get 2shot on the pts. I'm afraid to try on public server as the weapon isn't very good at the moment for me on pts
how do you know demo expert isn't working?
@@AngryTurtle the damage numbers didn't change in pip boy and it took the same number of bullets to kill supermutants with and with out Demo expert.
@@heinzerbrew pip boy numbers are broken on cryo in general, I was checking that on pts 4 weeks ago and it was working, hopefully they are not 'fixing' it
Great video mate
I miss my TSE cyro, not really OP and the hitscan was so nice
As of 3rd May 2024, My TS FFR cryolator now does only 25x2 dmg with crystallizing barrel and 36x2 with standard barrel (with 3x3 star heavy weap perk cards demo expert and grenadier) where it used to do 65 dmg with the 'x2' from the TS being "hidden". I suspect they have accidently nerfed this weapon by a huge amount with the 30th April update to the explosion dmg calculation on the Cremator's damage. It now hits like santa's drunken helper...
Can Angry or someone else confirm ?
I wanna roll one up on custom worlds and try it out. It sounds like a fun weapon. If you can get the explosive Bruce from demo ask for it on it but speaking on daily apps, I have a dollar in a while and maybe I am alive misunderstanding how this works but when you get done with that the app before you click on the options to see what you got your switch for the web for new animal for correct And I did that I was looking for missiles and I switched to that weapon and I didn’t get shit I didn’t get any ammo at the end except I use the grenade launcher quite a bit during yeah but I got a bunch of grenades off looting, but I didn’t get any missiles when I switched and completed the app and watch the results
Thanks for this
Bone work on turret very well
No, no no there’s more benefit to sneaking turtle. I am literally die when you’re just running and gunning you’re wasting ammo. I don’t maybe you’re better at it than me, but when I was running and gunning, I was like barely holding, even when I started sneaking around just tapping the trigger. You know one shot two shot three shot and I was dead. I would use three Kyle units but I would pick up six or nine or 14 cryo- units. My ammo was literally I grew my ammo by about 400 500 rounds until I went to Kelson scorch feast and shit like that and then I wasted a bunch of ammo, so the point is sneaking as another benefit if you need ammo when you don’t wanna spend money and resources, making it through Anna escape artist, and as many snake points is your confession and just sneak around conserving ammo, killing shit with his little shocked as you can you will grow your ham over it quickly
At the start of the video your dmg is showing as 61, but when you removed demo expert, it went up to 65. What happened here, why would the dmg number go up 4 points when you removed Demo Expert? My damage is showing as 61 and it doesn't get higher than that no matter what I try.
maybe my health was lower
@@AngryTurtle but why would the damage number be higher after you removed demolition expert? That's strange. It goes from 61 to 65
@@Boscha31 it’s because of adrenal reaction
@@dontmatter5964 I also had myself in nerd rage and never got it up to 65. Even when I only had a sliver of hp left. Was it maybe leftover adrenaline from before he started recording?
How much is the difference between bloodied and two shot?
two shot quite a bit stronger
I wish it was as good as it was in FO4. For me it has always been lackluster as it was probably my favorite FO4 playthrough weapon and I was jaded by how bad it is.
I started playing FO4 on release. I soon learned I wanted the Cryo early game. I play PC and it was always go get Dogmeat first, then get Cryo, then start game. Now I just console the case open, so I don't need to go back. First chance I get I add the crystalizing barrel.
@@CharlesSmith-io9fp Yea I have done that a time or two with Dogmeat
Only issue I have is the weapon itself, the ammos expensive and in short numbers when crafted and the magazine is so low for it's fire rate, quad is recommended unless you like reloading after every mob kill even with it's lmg reload time
I use ammo crafter on .45 ammo and collect all ammo. When I have a load I run it through the ammo converter for cryo cells. Bit of a pain but low cost.
Quad seems to freeze the SBQ faster.
There alot of fun but yeah its like a waistland snowball fight. 😂
Ok now do 5 chameleon stealth heavy flamer in power armor with both follow through and taking one for the team.
Finally my favorite weapon
Are they snowballs or iceballs? I mean either waybits a cool build.
Mind blowing
Hey Turtle, I just got a Quad one.. the +300 ??? 1st star.. I have a 2 star Luck mod. Oe should I roll a 3 star and hope for the best??ta
have a tsffr+50dr and its funny to use in pvp, makes those quantum spammers just die lol
Turtle I was seeing significant damage increase from sneaking with covert operative. I don’t know what was different about my build. It’s nearly impossible to try and see the numbers and tell which ones are the explosive damage and which ones are the the the weapon damage because they’re all piled up on each other, but from our you know, looking at the one shot two shot three shot type test Things went from three shots down to two shots with sneaking and a full health. Build I wasn’t Donna stealth bill, Irina oh well health Build I was on a full health Bill. I still think most of the damage you’re getting from. This is the explosive a fact which means you know low health, Ohio state gang whatever you’re going to be getting roughly, the same damage all the time.
My quad 50crit 15 crit refill is very powerfull on my quad crit stealth commando with no heavy perks needed as crit build doesn't need it.
I am cancelling my Fallout 1st. My Slug Buster went missing at fasnacht when a bunch of people were using the same stash to store their loot. After spending 3 years supporting this game, I'm done. Best of luck with the channel, Turtle.
I'm sorry to hear that
I have a TS +25 aim 25%LVC it’s a beast and I’m not even spec for it
is this still relevant or have changes been made to the cryolator since this video?