Minor mistake: You CAN actually BLOCK the defib, although it doesn't get reflected. In your video the block failed because they were aiming at your feet instead of your body. Loved the Hydrogen collider at 6:20
Pretty sure it's a discrepancy between FP and TP animations, but you could be right. Another explanation is what I talk about at the start of the video: deflect sometimes just don't work. And because of this, I should have tried the defib more than once... Thanks for the heads up!
The ending was everything I wanted it to be. F’ing great video man. The infinite block plus the finals music was literally perfect lol glad to be a dual blade user !
6:47 that meme where two guys are throwing hand in light speed lmaooo also great video pls make more about dual blades im a model main and i have good hours in sekiro so yea i thinking of maining this now in s3
Would like to see more vids like this for mastery. I definitely like them and they can work if you put *a lot* of effort in. I'm not there yet, but I'd love to know more about how these new weapons work so I can master them faster.
I’m pretty sure the damage reflection is variable based on where your cross hair is. If you’re deflecting at the edge of its range you’ll deflect only about 40% damage
Nice vid, very informative. As I understand it ( non interactions being considered) the deflect is more of a cone of probability type of thing, and the closer you are the more likely it is to work. The rest is just 80% dmg reduction. Which is nice but shouldn't to be abused without ample caution.
I love this - as a dual blade main myself its the most fun ive had in the finals in a while besides acting like im in AOT lmao. Def have had some crazy reflects.
@mohammadalkhani6714 Brother, they are super weak The deflect cone is very tragic, and the angle it has is laughable. Literally shooting at your feet deletes your blades and well the fact that you cant cancel an attack into a parry is very very bad Buffs can be done without tweaking numbers
@mohammadalkhani6714 I mean the blades on paper aint bad but on practice, they are really really bad. If you're already in the prime spot to fight, they are pretty strong, yes But outside of literally being in optimal conditions, its tough
My issue with it is how long it takes to activate the deflection, how slow the attacks are so you are stuck in the attack animation, and the accuracy of the deflection. I think the damage could be buffed too since a heavy can out dps you with their gun but that could be a skill issue on my part
but how loose can I be with my deflects or the angle I aim them in? is it like the riot shield where it blocks essentially nothing and covers like my forearm and not much else? Do I deflect when I'm supposed to be shot or is there a hitbox for it? ykno is it like a deflecto-gel smothered on the front of my character or is it like a parry like dark souls or tf2's airblast just without the timing aspect. hey talking about the timing aspect, this weapon could've had a lot more depth if it WERE based on timed-parries giving perfectly accurate counterattacks instead of how it is now
I intended to talk about it, but because it's not a weapon guide and this kind of knowledge is not useful for the rest of the video, I just removed it from the script altogether! The angle is not very generous. It's way worse than the riot shield, and you don't give the riot shield a lot of credit. You deflect when you are supposed to get shot, but you can still get shot while deflecting if the angle from the damage source and your crosshair is too high. I guess the best is to get a feel for it in the training range by using the dummies that constantly shoot. And I do agree that no timing required and no stamina/cooldown + no mobility ability make the weapon bland. Like the riot shield. Except it's worse.
@@Jinko_ nah I'm exaggerating the riotshield comment, I like it myself, makes me feel like a one-handed build in elden ring, it just feels inconsistent at times. I do have your vids regarding it on my watch later though, I will give it another shot after I do proper research on it.
@@Jinko_ do one on the sledge yea? I may've been a 357 main across the betas but the sledge has practically not dropped from my hand the second the game released in 1.0
Hey there great video! Just wanted to point out that you forgot about the taser, from what i have experienced it can be deflected but actually deals damage when deflected for some reason it is rly weird at the moment. Got oneshot by my own taser a couple of days ago
Glad you liked it! As for the bow, it’s quite straightforward so I don’t think I will be making a video dedicated to it anytime soon. But surely other people have posted guides on it!
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
I'm curious if you've noticed the same possible bug with deflect that I've been noticing. It seems reflected damage an kills caused by reflect don''t count towards your totals.
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
OK I have follow up questions; at the start of the video you say that sometimes the deflections don't work? If sometimes the deflections do not work then surely infinite deflections would not be possible because eventually one of them would fail?
I can't explain this bug either... But yeah sometimes you deflect and nothing is sent back. We did have more trouble in some private games than others due to it.
Great video, man, new sub, but I still don’t understand something, with the arrows you said that it won’t always reflect, so how did you do the infinite reflect?
Thanks for the sub! It doesn't always deflect but it's a bug that I cannot explain. When it does deflect, then there is no problem and it can keep deflecting forever in this setup.
So what is the radius of deflection? How far Y and how far X can I deflect projectiles and gain that 80% damage reduction? I know you have to be aiming at the enemy like you're wielding a gun to defect and hit the enemy with their own bullets, but sometimes I just need defense and I'm not focusing on killing an enemy super far away 😂
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Something i havent tested and sadly didnt seem to be answered here was shotguns? It doesnt make sense for an entire shotgun's spread of bullets, so im curious how the calculations work
@@Jinko_ thanks for clarifying Yay consistent gameplay experience Boo unrealistic To be fair slower projectiles like grenades, knives, bows etc shoild be better blocked than bullets (especially high fire rate) anyway so this is still a very gamey wrapon as opposed yo realistic so thats not too bad
Agai n i try today to play dual blades, and at practice i dont see too send back the bullets to give damage in normal game cause is to fast i see reflect butt i dont know if i am deflecting
I make a long list of tests, then try them all out with a person for about two hours. Then I trim everything, look back at the clips, get more ideas, make the thumbnails, then try more thing, get carried away, record things for another video or make a discovery… then I write the script, start editing, realize I forgot to record some interactions, go record them. Then I realize I’m missing even more and go record them. Every time, I need to ask someone to come start a private match with me and do what I ask them, else I could not make this content. Then I edit for hours, and finally post it! So, a few days each time, and many hours. I’m glad it’s paying off, been doing it for years only to get 600-1000 views
@@Jinko_ I appreciate the transparency and honesty 🤣. I edit all my videos too + married and work a full time job so I feel ya there. Was just genuinely curious cause I just discovered ya and I like the way you put things together. Also smart of you to utilize the spectator mode in private matches 👀. I didn't even think of that.. going to be doing that when I get home 🙏
it's funny how the swords animation look oposite in pov, in 1st person the deflect look wonky when deflecting a entire mag but in 3rd it looks cool, meanwhile blocking looks cool in first but in third you character look so stupid holding the swords
@@Jinko_ It's because I've had a situation where 2 people were shooting at me, and something seemed as if it wasn't quite working as intended. It could've just been the weird angles that the deflect doesn't work, but I felt like I was always deflecting only one of the enemies' bullets
Spoiler: I get eliminated a lot in the video
The recipe for a good video
well u made this video possible
Your sacrifices were worth our amusement.
Ok the infinite deflection was awesome great video man.
Appreciate it!
Great video!! Really enjoyed the infinite deflect part.
Glad to hear it!
Minor mistake:
You CAN actually BLOCK the defib, although it doesn't get reflected.
In your video the block failed because they were aiming at your feet instead of your body.
Loved the Hydrogen collider at 6:20
Pretty sure it's a discrepancy between FP and TP animations, but you could be right. Another explanation is what I talk about at the start of the video: deflect sometimes just don't work. And because of this, I should have tried the defib more than once... Thanks for the heads up!
The ending was everything I wanted it to be. F’ing great video man. The infinite block plus the finals music was literally perfect lol glad to be a dual blade user !
Im glad you liked it so much!
Literally did a double take when you randomly threw in that filthy snipe at 2:15
it was a pleasure helping you Jinko 😄
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I have been waiting for a video like this for so long. These guide videos have really helped me, please make more of them
Will do! I’m happy you like them ☺️
a furry the finals vid hmmm want to be friends ?
I really wanna see someone doing this for the entire game XD
Technically possible since it does go on forever!
Amazing video! You really push the stuff to the limit, great to see
merci wesh
This deserves way mor attention, it's so well made and the infinite deflect is so cool
Commenting goes a long way! Thanks a lot ☺️
Now we need Alt marksman for true ultrakill experience
very nicely made vid. loved the cinematic sequence with the tracking dart infinite deflect. so clean
6:47 that meme where two guys are throwing hand in light speed lmaooo also great video pls make more about dual blades im a model main and i have good hours in sekiro so yea i thinking of maining this now in s3
only coviant, its a deflect not a parry so you'll take that 80% reduced damage.
thinking now embark should make it so regular melee attacks can block all damage.
@@Mimirdenthey needa do some typa buff whether it be removing dash cooldown or extending the dash length or reducing deflect damage taken or something
Genji been real quiet since this shit dropped
Great video, damnnnnn. The infinite deflect is so epic
ACKSCHUHALALALALALY it stands for "Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomot" which means "Handheld Anti-Tank Grenade-launcher"
Grenade 😳
Dual blade mains be having their own anime battles
Would like to see more vids like this for mastery. I definitely like them and they can work if you put *a lot* of effort in. I'm not there yet, but I'd love to know more about how these new weapons work so I can master them faster.
Finally! Was waiting for someone to post a breakdown like this.
Exactly the video I was searching for days about dual blade ! Merci
Glad I could help!
I’m pretty sure the damage reflection is variable based on where your cross hair is. If you’re deflecting at the edge of its range you’ll deflect only about 40% damage
Never heard of that, would be a good thing to test!
Nice vid, very informative. As I understand it ( non interactions being considered) the deflect is more of a cone of probability type of thing, and the closer you are the more likely it is to work. The rest is just 80% dmg reduction. Which is nice but shouldn't to be abused without ample caution.
Yes, a cone like other guns when not aiming down sight
Ah yes, as a medium player, if you're up agaiant a sniper: just switch to the sniper rifle that mediums totally have access to.
Super well made video! It's just awesome
Thanks a ton! I appreciate it
I love this - as a dual blade main myself its the most fun ive had in the finals in a while besides acting like im in AOT lmao. Def have had some crazy reflects.
07:03 I think I saw a meme like that with two guys in suits once 😄 also very informative and well made video!
Thank you!
that infinite deflect was sick🤣🤣
Good content is starting good job mon pote
I love the dual blades but it needs a buff
I really wanna see someone that make them look OP because to me they are just a worse riot shield
@mohammadalkhani6714
Brother, they are super weak
The deflect cone is very tragic, and the angle it has is laughable.
Literally shooting at your feet deletes your blades and well the fact that you cant cancel an attack into a parry is very very bad
Buffs can be done without tweaking numbers
@mohammadalkhani6714
I mean the blades on paper aint bad but on practice, they are really really bad. If you're already in the prime spot to fight, they are pretty strong, yes
But outside of literally being in optimal conditions, its tough
My issue with it is how long it takes to activate the deflection, how slow the attacks are so you are stuck in the attack animation, and the accuracy of the deflection. I think the damage could be buffed too since a heavy can out dps you with their gun but that could be a skill issue on my part
I think they whould be great if they didn`t glitch so much
Awesome video man, earned a follow!
Thank you!
Amazing video explaining the mechanics of the weapon!, really hoping they give an small buff to the weapon to make it viable.
thank you for testing the deflect x deflect
Soon as deflecting bullets became a thing, i knew this vid would start existing lol
Great idea and amazing video. You did it 👏👏👏👏
Glad you liked it!!
but how loose can I be with my deflects or the angle I aim them in?
is it like the riot shield where it blocks essentially nothing and covers like my forearm and not much else?
Do I deflect when I'm supposed to be shot or is there a hitbox for it?
ykno is it like a deflecto-gel smothered on the front of my character or is it like a parry like dark souls or tf2's airblast just without the timing aspect.
hey talking about the timing aspect, this weapon could've had a lot more depth if it WERE based on timed-parries giving perfectly accurate counterattacks instead of how it is now
I intended to talk about it, but because it's not a weapon guide and this kind of knowledge is not useful for the rest of the video, I just removed it from the script altogether!
The angle is not very generous. It's way worse than the riot shield, and you don't give the riot shield a lot of credit.
You deflect when you are supposed to get shot, but you can still get shot while deflecting if the angle from the damage source and your crosshair is too high. I guess the best is to get a feel for it in the training range by using the dummies that constantly shoot.
And I do agree that no timing required and no stamina/cooldown + no mobility ability make the weapon bland. Like the riot shield. Except it's worse.
@@Jinko_ nah I'm exaggerating the riotshield comment, I like it myself, makes me feel like a one-handed build in elden ring, it just feels inconsistent at times. I do have your vids regarding it on my watch later though, I will give it another shot after I do proper research on it.
@@de-ment It's my main weapon and I intend to make more videos about it! The ones I have so far are quite old already
@@Jinko_ do one on the sledge yea?
I may've been a 357 main across the betas but the sledge has practically not dropped from my hand the second the game released in 1.0
@@de-ment I don't play sledge but I know a great sledge player and I'm begging them to make content because they play it so well
Thank you for your helpful guidance!
You really went wild with this season! Great vids since OB.
Appreciate it!
Hey there great video! Just wanted to point out that you forgot about the taser, from what i have experienced it can be deflected but actually deals damage when deflected for some reason it is rly weird at the moment. Got oneshot by my own taser a couple of days ago
We did test it since I show stun has no effect, but I did leave out the part where I block as I get tased. Cqn't deflect it!
both informative and funny video. I really like your comedy style.
I appreciate that!
we gotta see the longest chain of tracking dart deflected
That was sooooo fun to watch
Thank you so much! This is great. Can you make a video about the bow & tips/tricks?
Glad you liked it! As for the bow, it’s quite straightforward so I don’t think I will be making a video dedicated to it anytime soon. But surely other people have posted guides on it!
@Jinko_ Makes sense! I've been trying to get back into the game since I hadnt played since April so, just need to get used to everything again
I am still interested to learn more about it's hitbox vs the riot shield: What does it cover? What angles does it protect from?
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
I needed this information. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
that was artwork
If they would up the accuracy of the deflect and give a lounge or long jump tec it will be enough
I'm curious if you've noticed the same possible bug with deflect that I've been noticing. It seems reflected damage an kills caused by reflect don''t count towards your totals.
Never checked tbh
the ultimate medium standoff. who will stop deflecting first?
that was worth the watch gonna go try dual blades now lol thanks
How big is the blocking hitbox? Can you take damage when getting shot in the feet while blocking for example?
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Woww thant single bullet deflection was clean
Awesome stuff
Omg that is so amazing, nice video, subscribed
Awesome! Thank you!
Infinite deflect is pretty insane, gotta say 😂 👏
OK I have follow up questions; at the start of the video you say that sometimes the deflections don't work? If sometimes the deflections do not work then surely infinite deflections would not be possible because eventually one of them would fail?
I can't explain this bug either... But yeah sometimes you deflect and nothing is sent back. We did have more trouble in some private games than others due to it.
the power of the drak side.
best the finals youtuber is back!
pls make a advanced video about the riot shield too
Thank you! I want to do that yes!
Great video, man, new sub, but I still don’t understand something, with the arrows you said that it won’t always reflect, so how did you do the infinite reflect?
Thanks for the sub! It doesn't always deflect but it's a bug that I cannot explain. When it does deflect, then there is no problem and it can keep deflecting forever in this setup.
@@Jinko_ ohhhhhh, I thought it was some mechanic of the blades, didn’t expect it to be a bug lol, thanks for explaining tho;)
actually subbed after this video great work!
Awesome, thank you for the sub and nice comment :)
no genji was harmed during making this video
7:46 🎶🎵 *Standing here, I realize that you are just like me trying to make history* 🎸
whar
@@Jinko_ "Making the mother of all omelette here, Jack. Can't fret over every egg"
I definitely don't have that reference
@@Jinko_ One day, you will
Damn that is cool.
Hello, please, make more content on The Finals game! Great video!!!
Thanks, will do!
So what is the radius of deflection? How far Y and how far X can I deflect projectiles and gain that 80% damage reduction? I know you have to be aiming at the enemy like you're wielding a gun to defect and hit the enemy with their own bullets, but sometimes I just need defense and I'm not focusing on killing an enemy super far away 😂
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Ah, now I see why the servers were a bit laggy lately.
You really tested a lot of stuff. I am still not sure how big the deflect hitbox is
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Enjoyed. Subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
when i block there is nord dot crosshair in middel how do u have it?
The crosshair is for dealing damage with the deflected bullets
If you don’t deal damage there is none
@@Jinko_ i know but i dont have the dot in my screen
@@iwantyou9944 Oh that's a crosshair option in the settings
if you stand normally, and you deflect, but they shoot for the leg, do you still deflect?
Depends on where you are looking at and where they shoot exactly but yes what you describe can happen easily
Great video
Something i havent tested and sadly didnt seem to be answered here was shotguns? It doesnt make sense for an entire shotgun's spread of bullets, so im curious how the calculations work
I cut it from the video because I found it boring, but yes you do send back multiple pellets!
@@Jinko_ thanks for clarifying
Yay consistent gameplay experience
Boo unrealistic
To be fair slower projectiles like grenades, knives, bows etc shoild be better blocked than bullets (especially high fire rate) anyway so this is still a very gamey wrapon as opposed yo realistic so thats not too bad
Really good shit 👍
Les doubles lame sont vrm un belle ajou au jeu
Surprised you didn’t show the taser I believe it works swear I reflected one once
You can't deflect it. Tested, didn't show!
I am just wondering and it wasn't specified in the video, but can you deflect stun gun?
You can’t!
@@Jinko_ Oh, that's unfortunate :(
Great video
Thanks!
Sad green cyborg ninja dide noises*
Damn mate! Great video, but... The question is - will in deflect lh1 properly? I mean can it be anti-LH1 weapon? Thanks for the video!
LH1 fires bullets and the dual blades deflect bullets, so yes!
@@Jinko_ but like - is it good to deflect? cause like lh1 is pretty shitty right now - i need something to dodge it
@@whitewhalo dual blades kinda suck so I don’t think it’s the best option out there
Lh1 got overbuffed
@@Jinko_ got it, thx! Hope for more videos!
Cet accent français de qualité 👌🙃
Agai n i try today to play dual blades, and at practice i dont see too send back the bullets to give damage in normal game cause is to fast i see reflect butt i dont know if i am deflecting
It's bugged and lag makes it worse, very inconsistent sadly
How many hours does it take you to film/edit one of these videos?
Very entertaining video man 😂🎉🎉🎉
I make a long list of tests, then try them all out with a person for about two hours. Then I trim everything, look back at the clips, get more ideas, make the thumbnails, then try more thing, get carried away, record things for another video or make a discovery… then I write the script, start editing, realize I forgot to record some interactions, go record them. Then I realize I’m missing even more and go record them. Every time, I need to ask someone to come start a private match with me and do what I ask them, else I could not make this content.
Then I edit for hours, and finally post it! So, a few days each time, and many hours. I’m glad it’s paying off, been doing it for years only to get 600-1000 views
@@Jinko_ I appreciate the transparency and honesty 🤣. I edit all my videos too + married and work a full time job so I feel ya there. Was just genuinely curious cause I just discovered ya and I like the way you put things together.
Also smart of you to utilize the spectator mode in private matches 👀. I didn't even think of that.. going to be doing that when I get home 🙏
BOULETTTTTTTT BAGUETTE
Wrong, RPG stands for ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, which can be translated as "handheld anti-tank grenade launcher".
That still includes the word "grenade" so the nerd cat is wrong!
I love when that stupid cat shows up lmao
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i need more boulettes!!!
Average IKEA enjoyer
Can you make a triangle of deflecting?
No because the angle between you and the enemy to be able to deflect is too low
Peak content
Merci bro et surtout pour l'accent anglais coupé a la dual blade ahah
Énorme
4:08 bwahahahaahah
it's funny how the swords animation look oposite in pov, in 1st person the deflect look wonky when deflecting a entire mag but in 3rd it looks cool, meanwhile blocking looks cool in first but in third you character look so stupid holding the swords
Holy jedi
🤓 Well... Umm.. Acttually! Originally RPG stands for Ruchnoi Protivotankovii Granatomet (рус. Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт) wich roughly translates to Handheld Anti-tank Grenade launcher
I love how everyone compares tge deflect to genji like overwatch is the one that created tge concept.
For most people, me included, it’s the only fps game we ever saw a deflect mechanic in before the finals
Can you deflect shots to the feet?
Yes and no... Will make a video on the blocking hitboxes for dual blades and riot shield!
Your france accent reminds me cyberpunk 2077 , the dog town dlc . U know mission with these twins
I don’t have the reference but I will assume it’s a compliment 😏
I think it's very cool and unique. Reminds me of Cheeki Breeki , a Stalker TH-camr.
But can you deflect projectiles from multiple enemies at once?
I didn't try but because you can deflect multiple bullets during infinite deflect it's basically the same thing so I would say yes
@@Jinko_ It's because I've had a situation where 2 people were shooting at me, and something seemed as if it wasn't quite working as intended. It could've just been the weird angles that the deflect doesn't work, but I felt like I was always deflecting only one of the enemies' bullets
@TheTiagones i might add this to a vidoe I planned about riot shield and dual blades hitbox es!
@@Jinko_ I'll look forward to it
Bonne vidéo mon gars
Cimer poto
You made my day dude. Love the accent 🗿🗿
Very useful
bro are u french ? ur accent sound like it ?
Keep up with video like that i love it ! ;)
Yes I am! And thanks!