I know you get fractions of fame for everything you do but the time investment just to lose 50 % when you get killed is not the answer to attract new players. The 0.6 Fame System with the current Fame Penalty System in my opinion would help new players a lot and make it fun again.
You lose 50% when you die but you only get 30% of the person you've killed. Maybe if you got the same thing you lost, like it was before, killed loses 50% and killer gets 50% it would be better, the way it is right now will make the game really hard. Being honest i dont care much, i would even dare to say that only killboxes should give full weapons.
camouflage was nerfed too, i've leveled it up to advanced just leaving afk but now it's really slow if AFK, if you crawl it goes fast but cant be done afk due to risk.
I'm new to the game and I only play single player but I found it easy to get fame points. Olives, grasshoppers and something else from looting bushes/trees and I was able to get enough fame to buy a gun. But I agree with you fame should be rewarded for players doing everything they can to level up. Like killboxes, bunkers, airdrops, selling items , killing puppets, crafting , looting X amount of stuff should give you a fame point rather than an olive will give you a fame point but an apple won't. As a new player that system is a bit confusing but I hope they will fix it.
Remember all of the praise this game received when they were purchased by that larger company? Oh my goodness, this game can only get better, etc and so on. Well, I am sitting in the background while other people heap praise and I see the nerfing of so many things. Not to mention their reluctance to fix the puppet collision issues and clipping through walls/doors.
I feel like we are very deep into development and this absolute basic function should be worked out already. Early access or not. The fame system is fundamental to the game and should be worked out by now. I stopped playing for awhile now even though I really enjoy the game..because earning fame became nonsensical.
Well said. Every game, well almost every game has a foundation that it is built upon. I am seeing this unfold in The Division 2 and Warframe. The games were launched with great story telling, good mechanics, etc. Now they are adding ideology, agendas, terrible rng and lots of cosmetics. When I heard the news about who bought these guys, I looked up their other titles and I'd have to admit, joy wasn't the first emotion I felt. Companies that invest heavily into cosmetics but are plagued with bugs is a bad recipe in my opinion. But yes, from Fame to Clipping issues, these should be core mechanics that the devs need to improve on.
They giving fame mostly on creation item or building base so just by making simple item like improvisation rail for gun you'll get 1,2 fame per product and the more complicated items you make the more fame you've got for example creating a small battery recharger will give you 6 fame per item.
Why does this seem like such a simple thing and yet they make it dumb? Fame should be given for everything we do in the game and based on a sliding scale of difficulty and/or rarity.
Hey @Luthais... when I read the patch notes I had a little chuckle and joked with my mates, "well, there goes the game for newbies like me". After watching this video, I am seriously worried half the player base will fade away, and SCUM will become just another pew-pew game title and fail completely in a year or two. The fame system made the game easy to get used to as a new player. Yeah, I still sucked at most of the game, and after 1200 hours I still suck at PvP. But at least I could build my base, farm a few potatoes, go loot and then be able to buy a cheap hiking backpack or a pistol after a few days grinding. And then go loose my fame points and gear to PvP experts. It sucked in a fun way, now it just sucks, period. But here's the kicker, some of us, have no real interest in hard-core PvP games, that's why we choose SCUM to begin with, a truly unique survival game, well it used be as of this little patch. This is a plea, from a staunch supporter of SCUM, a convert from a long-time DayZ player, and a few other FPS games. The fastest way you loose a big chunk of your player base, is with little details like this. I truly hope the Dev's, or their new company execs re-think this, who knows who made this frankly poor decision? Removing olives to gain fame is one thing, completely ruining the game immersion for PvE players is unforgivable, and I'm afraid a lot of players are going to cast their vote by simply moving on. Sad day indeed!
I prefer to gain fame by doing things that warrant it :like killing puppets/players , bunkers , cargo drops, kill boxes 📦…. and more risk more reward. Also elements for pve side of game like leveling skills, building bases, hunting. Anything noteworthy…. even long range kills should be awarded fame . My two cents
I am 200% with your opinion!!! nothing more to say...i am very disapointed too. that patch have te be fixed as soon as possible. I love this game but what the hell the devs think to make these dicisions?? ok enough of that...thanks for ur videos and ur Entertainment Luth! See u in Stream✌
I have a sneaky feeling this is the aftermath of certain people like... hkhhmmmm... Raykit **coughs** laughing in Tomislav's face with a smug face, telling him that "fame is irrelevant, useless and means nothing and has no point right now since it's so easy to get" last wipe cycle.. he was confused and like "what are you talking about" .. and then he said that they will look into it.
Luthais, one thing you missed in the video is that you do get fame by killing puppets, but it something like 1 Fame Point per 12 to 15 puppets killed. It´s the same amount since 0.75 update.
Hey luthais, at 21:16 there is another access to the fuse box, but this one doesnt have fuse slots, just the switches. You can use it to shutdown the power of the other doors so if someone gets in he will not be able to get to you without energy. At 15:41 you can see that the level -1 floor have a 'secondary' fuse box too, in case you want to shutdown from the inside. If every switch is flipped OFF it will last forever, if any is flipped ON it will last the same amount of time as if it was using maximum power. You can use it to preserve power in case you dont have bigger fuses. Usually i only have 800A, so i power the first fuse box, power A and B, go where you where at 15:41, turn all switches OFF because when i leave i can turn it on and open with a keycard.
I was just commenting to "Duxily" yesterday how FP for looting really sucked, lately (I just looted a bunch of nice weapons from the A0 armories) and then they turn around and kick us in the balls with this latest "hotfix".
I really love that they changed that tbh because I hate the fact that ppl play on a pvp server and get rewarded for beeing "cowards". But if no one has fame anymore there will also be no benefit/reward for tracking & killing other players - REGARDING THE TRADERS! This change will only influence how you interact with the traders. In the open world and Bunkers no one gives a shit about fame points. You need to actually play the game and learn the mechanics to get equipment. BUT bringin this in with a Hotfix and give players no good explaination or options is fucked! They need to implement a way to gain fame by playing the game, because that is the only way it would also make sens lore wise. We really need a quest / task system in the game asap so that SP/pve and pvp players can gain fame by playing the game. Also gaining xp and level up your skills and surviving should give you fame as well. If your character survives for 24h ingame hours in my book thats a win and you should be rewarded with fame. Or is it so that the TEC1 corporation only rewards the killing of others now? I mean that could be a reason right? But like I said such a change in a "HOTFIX" is not the way to go forward. Thanks for taking the time @luthais to invest the mechanics! Take care buddy!
Hello! As a side Info: If you build your base you get 2 FAME for each Brick or Zement Upgrade you do So lets say you have 10 thing you upgrade up to cement, the brick and cement upgrades gives you 40 Fame in total for those 10 elements! Hope that helps! have a nice day :)
In my opinion. Fame should equal. Leveling skills, killing puppets, and killing players. I'm good with the respawn $$, and fame coming slower but I think it should be from leveling skills, killing puppets, and killing players.
In my opinion, at this point I think fame is useless and totally broken, they should simply replace the fame with a player "level" and put a level up bar in the interface. And you earn XP by killing zombies, and doing stuff like in any other RPG games...
I along with a ton of people was excited about this patch, they even had an increase in players overall after the release of 0.9, then this update today felt like they were saying ah screw you all we wanna frustrate the hell out of everyone, a good ole fashioned kick in the ass
yeah Razors aren't really following rules. They'll drop when there's no alert noise from them, sometimes they drop constantly even if you're sitting still. Very much looking forward to a patch for them :)
I'm beginning to think they do dumb updates like this just to stir the players up. Like they say, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". That or they are just incompetent. To toss about another saying... "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
please for the love of god turn down the in-game sounds, especially on character creation/shooting. It's difficult to hear you sometimes as it is there's no need to keep the game so loud.
My bf complains about this everyday. The chainsaw is too loud, repairing something with a toolbox is too loud, driving is too loud. I guess I’ve just got really good at tuning stuff out 😅
I think you get 1 famepoint per hour in game - which is around 15 minutes realtime normally. I also believe fame point system is the only end game we have. There is no content after you get access to all items etc, it's just "f'in around" after that which kills my interest in the game. I like the slow progress of fame, which means you gotta loot the gear, not buy it. Personally I hate the trader system anyway, so I don't mind.
To lose 50percent FP when killed is way too much. 10 or maybe 20 percent is enough. It's yet another advantage for the big squads. Most new players will be solo
I've been playing a bit lately and while I was pretty livid about the new system it's not so bad, HOWEVER the fame loss sucks. I think if the fame loss was tiered it would be better, but not linear, less punishing at low tier (15%), more punishing at mid tier (30%) and slightly more punishing for top tier (40%).
So i was woundering if the inteligence effect how fast you get xp in your diffrent stats aswell like str or con? And since SCUM is suposed to be a tv show im guessing that what viewers realy wanted was a show called the olive farmer =)
Yes! This is the worst. Like you lose fame and money every time you die. It just got so bad I stopped playing because it's a double penalty for every death.
If they just gave you fame for doing things that would make you famous, (like you said about in previous videos) killboxes, killing puppets/players the game would make so much more sense! I do miss the old days, but the problem back then was fame slowed right down once you levelled up most skills. So doing things that would make you famous seems the only viable option! Hope they sort something soon!
@@Luthais yeah i totally agree there. Maybe they could use the old system to gain fame for levelling and then add some kind of fame gain for experienced players too. I really like the idea of getting fame for doing kb’s, could add fame for hacking keypads now or doors. Think we’re long overdue the bounty system as well, but that will only work if we can gain fame! Lol
What you could try to test if maybe cooking a perfect meal gives some fame now? I doubt it cause if they thought about it they would use this to promote 0.9 feature not 0.85, but who knows. Also looting items in the wild is now not giving fame, but maybe when you build a farm and collect from what you grow still do give it?
Hi Luth. Once again, thanks for a quick and good vidoe on the updates... One Q though... Due to that there are no (known) way of getting famepoints, will u adjust the settings so fame doesnt matter when u go to buy stuff at the traders? Or will it still take over 200 famepoints to buy a vehicle?
After our talk on discord, I upped Fame points multiplier to 5, so it is more like it was, but just for the time, which is still not right... But it is more close than it was :(
😢Well i'm screwed 😂 r they tryin 2 force us all 2 go pvp? This the only game i have installed on pc an i will give it up b4 i try pvp, gain 6 points over 2 hrs for pretty much any player 2 take half it from me in 30 secs 🤬 olives were ott for fame points but looting an such... hope this gets resolved, soon
I think killing puppets should give you 1 fame possibly 5 or 10… pretty sure they are trying to force us to use the game modes. Which I can’t blamed them. It is a game show…. Still think puppets should be 10 fame and players 100 fame or on the lower end puppets 1 fame and players 10 fame outside of the game modes
I love this game. Even with my little time that I have to play, I am at 600h in game. But it.s becoming to tedious. Loot is to hard to get, fame is even harder, most of the time I spend to much time walking amd no actions. Minigames are good but to many of them for me it becomes to much. We need some action, some missions, bug fixes, melee rework because it is to slow, a way to travel faster (modular vehicles are a pain right now with all the missing parts and 90% of them locked by players on my server) The game is great but it is becoming to complicated for casual players. Maybe it is ok ford hardcore players.. have no clue on this.
It's taken me around 100 hours to get used to the basics on SP, i have a base, grown crops, did lockpicking and airdrops, barely raised the fame or skills. unsure i want to put in the same effort in MP if i'm gonna be killed every couple hours... just working out food at the start is a pain, dealing with infections almost impossible (a natural / craftable antibiotic from Aloe makes sense) and without antibiotics looting is losing the risk reward battle...
I mean most of the items you find in game have a monetary value attached to it, can't be that hard to give fame based on that value.. ? Also just let us see the fame in numbers so we know if something gives 0.01 fame or absolutely 0.... Come on...5 years in the making...
So you gat 1 FP for every 20 min in game, but lose 1 FP for one failed try of lockpicking... Let me introduce you to new PvP meta: pre-made building with as many doors as possible and all dial locks on them. No one will be able to go past that protection!
Have we seen anything to show they're listening to their customers on the fame issue? This is ridiculous. If it's just gonna be a looter/shooter, take the fame and the vendors out of the equation. Complete waste of time.
honestly im glad for AI and something to do but i really think .6 and before traders was peak scum we had vehicles and actual animals not some stupid mini game. i have not played scum since they took animals out i think that was stupid and an excuse for their sloppy coding and bad network issues, i never had bad ping but i hosted and played on my own private servers and never had any issues with animals ping lag or anything so most of that is probably just people playing high ping servers or bad internet. until they bring back trucks planes and animals im done with this game.
about fuse if you don't overload fuses it last for years in real life i don't know exactly how is this realistic in new bunkers...supper annoying. puppets and razor glitching... fame are also supper annoying now..if you reduce fame like that remove losing fame in pvp and have it only us activity bonus and keep k/d ratio to compares pvp. my personal opinion
Brother I think your over looking the game modes. SCUM is a game show and those game modes are supposed to be televised to the scum audience so the fame points should come from those and not the avg day to day gameplay.
Well even the most epic things like Kill Boxes and Cargo Drops and Abandoned Bunker Armories give you no fame so they are aiming for PVP when its a Survival Game
@@Luthais I hear you and your not wrong on that they should be rewarding fame from doing difficult things but do think they’re not wrong for sticking with the vision. Think you need to do a video on how much the game modes give you because they are supposed to be a big part of the game. It’s like the movie Death race, they didn’t televise their day to day lives. The televised the Race. Fame should come from the events.
I know you get fractions of fame for everything you do but the time investment just to lose 50 % when you get killed is not the answer to attract new players.
The 0.6 Fame System with the current Fame Penalty System in my opinion would help new players a lot and make it fun again.
You lose 50% when you die but you only get 30% of the person you've killed. Maybe if you got the same thing you lost, like it was before, killed loses 50% and killer gets 50% it would be better, the way it is right now will make the game really hard. Being honest i dont care much, i would even dare to say that only killboxes should give full weapons.
camouflage was nerfed too, i've leveled it up to advanced just leaving afk but now it's really slow if AFK, if you crawl it goes fast but cant be done afk due to risk.
I'm new to the game and I only play single player but I found it easy to get fame points. Olives, grasshoppers and something else from looting bushes/trees and I was able to get enough fame to buy a gun. But I agree with you fame should be rewarded for players doing everything they can to level up. Like killboxes, bunkers, airdrops, selling items , killing puppets, crafting , looting X amount of stuff should give you a fame point rather than an olive will give you a fame point but an apple won't. As a new player that system is a bit confusing but I hope they will fix it.
@@terrybart4081 There was a patch today bud. No more fame from looting anything
@@terrybart4081 i belive that respawn with fame would be the best solution, something like 100 fama to sector respawn and 250+ for bed respawn
Remember all of the praise this game received when they were purchased by that larger company? Oh my goodness, this game can only get better, etc and so on. Well, I am sitting in the background while other people heap praise and I see the nerfing of so many things. Not to mention their reluctance to fix the puppet collision issues and clipping through walls/doors.
I feel like we are very deep into development and this absolute basic function should be worked out already. Early access or not. The fame system is fundamental to the game and should be worked out by now. I stopped playing for awhile now even though I really enjoy the game..because earning fame became nonsensical.
Well said. Every game, well almost every game has a foundation that it is built upon. I am seeing this unfold in The Division 2 and Warframe. The games were launched with great story telling, good mechanics, etc. Now they are adding ideology, agendas, terrible rng and lots of cosmetics. When I heard the news about who bought these guys, I looked up their other titles and I'd have to admit, joy wasn't the first emotion I felt. Companies that invest heavily into cosmetics but are plagued with bugs is a bad recipe in my opinion. But yes, from Fame to Clipping issues, these should be core mechanics that the devs need to improve on.
I agree but don’t you still get fame from the game modes? And since SCUM is technically a game show doesn’t that make sense?
puppets don't even respect walls... or floors... doors... gates... 😂
They giving fame mostly on creation item or building base so just by making simple item like improvisation rail for gun you'll get 1,2 fame per product and the more complicated items you make the more fame you've got for example creating a small battery recharger will give you 6 fame per item.
Why does this seem like such a simple thing and yet they make it dumb? Fame should be given for everything we do in the game and based on a sliding scale of difficulty and/or rarity.
Agreed
I guess we will have to adjust the fame gain multiplier slightly to counteract it
Never lol. They need to go make to 0.6 fame gain
That is an option.
@@Luthais punish them 😂
Hey @Luthais... when I read the patch notes I had a little chuckle and joked with my mates, "well, there goes the game for newbies like me". After watching this video, I am seriously worried half the player base will fade away, and SCUM will become just another pew-pew game title and fail completely in a year or two.
The fame system made the game easy to get used to as a new player. Yeah, I still sucked at most of the game, and after 1200 hours I still suck at PvP. But at least I could build my base, farm a few potatoes, go loot and then be able to buy a cheap hiking backpack or a pistol after a few days grinding. And then go loose my fame points and gear to PvP experts. It sucked in a fun way, now it just sucks, period.
But here's the kicker, some of us, have no real interest in hard-core PvP games, that's why we choose SCUM to begin with, a truly unique survival game, well it used be as of this little patch. This is a plea, from a staunch supporter of SCUM, a convert from a long-time DayZ player, and a few other FPS games.
The fastest way you loose a big chunk of your player base, is with little details like this. I truly hope the Dev's, or their new company execs re-think this, who knows who made this frankly poor decision? Removing olives to gain fame is one thing, completely ruining the game immersion for PvE players is unforgivable, and I'm afraid a lot of players are going to cast their vote by simply moving on.
Sad day indeed!
I will make sure we are heard my friend. Dont you worry
I prefer to gain fame by doing things that warrant it :like killing puppets/players , bunkers , cargo drops, kill boxes 📦…. and more risk more reward. Also elements for pve side of game like leveling skills, building bases, hunting. Anything noteworthy…. even long range kills should be awarded fame . My two cents
I am 200% with your opinion!!! nothing more to say...i am very disapointed too. that patch have te be fixed as soon as possible. I love this game but what the hell the devs think to make these dicisions?? ok enough of that...thanks for ur videos and ur Entertainment Luth! See u in Stream✌
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If you trigger the alert, you can run back to the generator room and turn off the power, and turn it on again to reset it.
I have a sneaky feeling this is the aftermath of certain people like... hkhhmmmm... Raykit **coughs** laughing in Tomislav's face with a smug face, telling him that "fame is irrelevant, useless and means nothing and has no point right now since it's so easy to get" last wipe cycle.. he was confused and like "what are you talking about" .. and then he said that they will look into it.
The devs just need to put more thought into these decisions from a survival perspective instead of a PVP perspective
Yeah the devs are passive aggressive
Luthais, one thing you missed in the video is that you do get fame by killing puppets, but it something like 1 Fame Point per 12 to 15 puppets killed. It´s the same amount since 0.75 update.
Agreed. Watch my next video for the Meta
Hey luthais, at 21:16 there is another access to the fuse box, but this one doesnt have fuse slots, just the switches. You can use it to shutdown the power of the other doors so if someone gets in he will not be able to get to you without energy. At 15:41 you can see that the level -1 floor have a 'secondary' fuse box too, in case you want to shutdown from the inside. If every switch is flipped OFF it will last forever, if any is flipped ON it will last the same amount of time as if it was using maximum power. You can use it to preserve power in case you dont have bigger fuses. Usually i only have 800A, so i power the first fuse box, power A and B, go where you where at 15:41, turn all switches OFF because when i leave i can turn it on and open with a keycard.
Thank you for the tip ;]
Totally agree with everything you say here. I'm quite disappointed too.
They really need to go back to the old system. It was fun, i pretty much quit once i figured out that they changed it
I was just commenting to "Duxily" yesterday how FP for looting really sucked, lately (I just looted a bunch of nice weapons from the A0 armories) and then they turn around and kick us in the balls with this latest "hotfix".
Agreed
I really love that they changed that tbh because I hate the fact that ppl play on a pvp server and get rewarded for beeing "cowards". But if no one has fame anymore there will also be no benefit/reward for tracking & killing other players - REGARDING THE TRADERS! This change will only influence how you interact with the traders. In the open world and Bunkers no one gives a shit about fame points. You need to actually play the game and learn the mechanics to get equipment. BUT bringin this in with a Hotfix and give players no good explaination or options is fucked!
They need to implement a way to gain fame by playing the game, because that is the only way it would also make sens lore wise. We really need a quest / task system in the game asap so that SP/pve and pvp players can gain fame by playing the game. Also gaining xp and level up your skills and surviving should give you fame as well. If your character survives for 24h ingame hours in my book thats a win and you should be rewarded with fame. Or is it so that the TEC1 corporation only rewards the killing of others now? I mean that could be a reason right? But like I said such a change in a "HOTFIX" is not the way to go forward.
Thanks for taking the time @luthais to invest the mechanics! Take care buddy!
Yes we need to earn fame naturally without a Meta. Like what I did at the start.
Hello!
As a side Info:
If you build your base you get 2 FAME for each Brick or Zement Upgrade you do
So lets say you have 10 thing you upgrade up to cement, the brick and cement upgrades gives you 40 Fame in total for those 10 elements!
Hope that helps! have a nice day :)
Agreed but PVP is just way easier so they need to fix that
In my opinion. Fame should equal. Leveling skills, killing puppets, and killing players. I'm good with the respawn $$, and fame coming slower but I think it should be from leveling skills, killing puppets, and killing players.
Fully agree
How are people going to use the vendors now? No fame, No shopping.......turning off the fame requirement at vendors on my "play ground".
I agree with you completely.
In my opinion, at this point I think fame is useless and totally broken, they should simply replace the fame with a player "level" and put a level up bar in the interface. And you earn XP by killing zombies, and doing stuff like in any other RPG games...
Good idea
Scum releases strongly resemble MS Windows pattern - every second release is crap. But that also makes us twice as happy about the next one
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I along with a ton of people was excited about this patch, they even had an increase in players overall after the release of 0.9, then this update today felt like they were saying ah screw you all we wanna frustrate the hell out of everyone, a good ole fashioned kick in the ass
yeah Razors aren't really following rules. They'll drop when there's no alert noise from them, sometimes they drop constantly even if you're sitting still. Very much looking forward to a patch for them :)
Don't know what you talking about. I can go through without one spawning if you pay attention to noise meter
On BBR server if you mention fame gain being a problem the admin just talks to you like you are a child and says just play and do stuff
Well you can just watch the meta and craft ammo
only thing i know that does is collecting fruits and vegitables...so farming simulator?
I didnt see the hotfix - premature post i guess lol
I'm beginning to think they do dumb updates like this just to stir the players up. Like they say, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". That or they are just incompetent. To toss about another saying... "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Could be
please for the love of god turn down the in-game sounds, especially on character creation/shooting. It's difficult to hear you sometimes as it is there's no need to keep the game so loud.
My bf complains about this everyday. The chainsaw is too loud, repairing something with a toolbox is too loud, driving is too loud. I guess I’ve just got really good at tuning stuff out 😅
Sorry bud.
In A2 big town there are a bunch of Olive trees and you can get 1FP per olive picked
does not work anymore collecting and selling olives give no fame at all
@@Daleryen thats werid it worked for me for a time
Doesn't work anymore
I think you get 1 famepoint per hour in game - which is around 15 minutes realtime normally. I also believe fame point system is the only end game we have. There is no content after you get access to all items etc, it's just "f'in around" after that which kills my interest in the game. I like the slow progress of fame, which means you gotta loot the gear, not buy it. Personally I hate the trader system anyway, so I don't mind.
Agreed but new players need an easier start
en frente de la puerta G tienes un panel de fusibles, no era necesario subir hasta arriba un saludo!!
To lose 50percent FP when killed is way too much. 10 or maybe 20 percent is enough. It's yet another advantage for the big squads. Most new players will be solo
Agreed
A lot of old players are solo as well!
I've been playing a bit lately and while I was pretty livid about the new system it's not so bad, HOWEVER the fame loss sucks.
I think if the fame loss was tiered it would be better, but not linear, less punishing at low tier (15%), more punishing at mid tier (30%) and slightly more punishing for top tier (40%).
Think the fame is broken at the moment with other servers just spamming events non stop
So i was woundering if the inteligence effect how fast you get xp in your diffrent stats aswell like str or con? And since SCUM is suposed to be a tv show im guessing that what viewers realy wanted was a show called the olive farmer =)
Video on its way
Yes! This is the worst. Like you lose fame and money every time you die. It just got so bad I stopped playing because it's a double penalty for every death.
I understand what you are saying. Playing in a fun way costs you way too much
Someone told, you can get FP killing puppets by bow head shot…)
Yes but its not that easy for the average player
Zero fame is the name of the game lol😂😂 you just made me popular. And yes, there is a second panel by the brenner you could use to turn on off blocks
Why would you turn those off since you need to keep G on
@@Luthais you went back to turn G on, you could of done it right at Brenners door, that's all. Would save you a minute or so
@@Bostonski Oh ok. I get you
The damage from slasher is OP again. I even use a macro for 500% faster F kicking and still allways at least 1x c4 wound 1x c3 wound and 2x c1 wound.
Big knife goes ssssslice:O
Im glad the cancelled macros lol
strongly agree with all you say in this vid
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If they just gave you fame for doing things that would make you famous, (like you said about in previous videos) killboxes, killing puppets/players the game would make so much more sense! I do miss the old days, but the problem back then was fame slowed right down once you levelled up most skills. So doing things that would make you famous seems the only viable option! Hope they sort something soon!
Yes but it still made it great for new players. Give them a sense of reward and excitement then they can suffer with the rest of us
@@Luthais yeah i totally agree there. Maybe they could use the old system to gain fame for levelling and then add some kind of fame gain for experienced players too.
I really like the idea of getting fame for doing kb’s, could add fame for hacking keypads now or doors. Think we’re long overdue the bounty system as well, but that will only work if we can gain fame! Lol
What you could try to test if maybe cooking a perfect meal gives some fame now? I doubt it cause if they thought about it they would use this to promote 0.9 feature not 0.85, but who knows.
Also looting items in the wild is now not giving fame, but maybe when you build a farm and collect from what you grow still do give it?
Worth a try
Hi Luth.
Once again, thanks for a quick and good vidoe on the updates... One Q though...
Due to that there are no (known) way of getting famepoints, will u adjust the settings so fame doesnt matter when u go to buy stuff at the traders? Or will it still take over 200 famepoints to buy a vehicle?
No I wont make the game easier to adapt to the devs. Watch the meta video. I dont want a Meta I want 0.6 Fame system back
I don't know if they have patched it as well but you can get fame pretty quick by crafting CRAP ammo.
wait, u got 3 fame suddenly after cut, where did that come from ?
likely from time spent in game and puppets. you get 1 fame for like 10 puppets or some shit like that.
@@pupa-mi-ai_ciocanu_punctRO thank you
Because I healed myself
After our talk on discord, I upped Fame points multiplier to 5, so it is more like it was, but just for the time, which is still not right... But it is more close than it was :(
Yea as soon as you increase it the Metas will become broken
Fame should be built by leveling your skills and killing puppets and people
Agreed
So the 5 fame or 5 fame you accumulated in the video were just for being in the game for a certain time ?
Yes and one more thing. Stay tuned ;]
made me wanna quit scum for good when i found out i cant up my fame points.
Question. Does this behavior attract modding communities or will the people who create modded communities avoid this game?
No idea. There is no modding yet
😢Well i'm screwed 😂 r they tryin 2 force us all 2 go pvp? This the only game i have installed on pc an i will give it up b4 i try pvp, gain 6 points over 2 hrs for pretty much any player 2 take half it from me in 30 secs 🤬 olives were ott for fame points but looting an such... hope this gets resolved, soon
I hope so too
Spawn 100 Puppets on Single player with an M249, mow them down and see how much Fame you get?
Yes 1 fame every 20 puppets
seems like devs turned up the masochism notch all the way to 9000
Lol
I think killing puppets should give you 1 fame possibly 5 or 10… pretty sure they are trying to force us to use the game modes. Which I can’t blamed them. It is a game show…. Still think puppets should be 10 fame and players 100 fame or on the lower end puppets 1 fame and players 10 fame outside of the game modes
I love this game. Even with my little time that I have to play, I am at 600h in game. But it.s becoming to tedious. Loot is to hard to get, fame is even harder, most of the time I spend to much time walking amd no actions. Minigames are good but to many of them for me it becomes to much. We need some action, some missions, bug fixes, melee rework because it is to slow, a way to travel faster (modular vehicles are a pain right now with all the missing parts and 90% of them locked by players on my server) The game is great but it is becoming to complicated for casual players. Maybe it is ok ford hardcore players.. have no clue on this.
Agreed
It's taken me around 100 hours to get used to the basics on SP, i have a base, grown crops, did lockpicking and airdrops, barely raised the fame or skills. unsure i want to put in the same effort in MP if i'm gonna be killed every couple hours... just working out food at the start is a pain, dealing with infections almost impossible (a natural / craftable antibiotic from Aloe makes sense) and without antibiotics looting is losing the risk reward battle...
I just went up 1 Fame Point when I went from Basic to Medium Farming. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT. LOL
LOL
I mean most of the items you find in game have a monetary value attached to it, can't be that hard to give fame based on that value.. ? Also just let us see the fame in numbers so we know if something gives 0.01 fame or absolutely 0....
Come on...5 years in the making...
The 0.1 will help a lot
All fame is for is to buy things though right? So I guess it’s just going to inspire more looting to get gear
So you gat 1 FP for every 20 min in game, but lose 1 FP for one failed try of lockpicking...
Let me introduce you to new PvP meta: pre-made building with as many doors as possible and all dial locks on them. No one will be able to go past that protection!
Have we seen anything to show they're listening to their customers on the fame issue? This is ridiculous. If it's just gonna be a looter/shooter, take the fame and the vendors out of the equation. Complete waste of time.
honestly im glad for AI and something to do but i really think .6 and before traders was peak scum we had vehicles and actual animals not some stupid mini game. i have not played scum since they took animals out i think that was stupid and an excuse for their sloppy coding and bad network issues, i never had bad ping but i hosted and played on my own private servers and never had any issues with animals ping lag or anything so most of that is probably just people playing high ping servers or bad internet. until they bring back trucks planes and animals im done with this game.
Sorry to hear that and I agree
WTF it gives killbox loot in abandone bunkers ?
Same stuff, they say.
@@BrendonBinko its like an easyer to learn endgame.
Yes
4 mins 25 felt personal lmao
Nah. I dont take anything personal. Just think about the new players and current player base.
Fame system should be more of a reward system than gating shops.
Agreed
about fuse if you don't overload fuses it last for years in real life i don't know exactly how is this realistic in new bunkers...supper annoying. puppets and razor glitching... fame are also supper annoying now..if you reduce fame like that remove losing fame in pvp and have it only us activity bonus and keep k/d ratio to compares pvp. my personal opinion
I hear you
Came to hear a rant got opposite, for real rant I suggest watching AngryJoe.
Brother I think your over looking the game modes. SCUM is a game show and those game modes are supposed to be televised to the scum audience so the fame points should come from those and not the avg day to day gameplay.
Well even the most epic things like Kill Boxes and Cargo Drops and Abandoned Bunker Armories give you no fame so they are aiming for PVP when its a Survival Game
@@Luthais I hear you and your not wrong on that they should be rewarding fame from doing difficult things but do think they’re not wrong for sticking with the vision. Think you need to do a video on how much the game modes give you because they are supposed to be a big part of the game. It’s like the movie Death race, they didn’t televise their day to day lives. The televised the Race. Fame should come from the events.
A hotfix for the hotfix soon there will be, me thinks ;-)
No I think they will stick to it but ill show the meta
3 fame per hour is the amount you get for existing. So ya 1 fame every 20 min
thx
My pleasure
They need to change this back.