Not to mention the entirety of the Asgard database which would also include any research into Alteran technology. So, the Borg potentially could have access to transphasic weaponry (Drones) and the knowledge to build Stargates/Supergates.
I agree .. Game over. I'm pretty sure that [depending on how you want to scale] that the Trek ships should likely have been "one shot" if they'd have been directly hit by the beam weapon. This should be like fighting the Q just before they "ascended" ... I am kind of glad that the "Galaxy X from hell" was able to do something ... not sure if I was right but I still liked it :)
@@EcokadeBlogspotthe only thing of value is probably the Asgard shields, hyperdrive, naquadah/Naquadria in the nuclear warheads. I will say that a post refit BC-304 bc-304 Odyssey) with Asgard power core/asgard database would be insane. It as all of the Asgard’s knowledge base including schematics on the replicators.
An assimilated ship from Stargate? I love the modders in Star Trek Bridge Commander. They really have an awesome collective imagination that has created quite a hive of ships to choose from!
You forget that the Odyssey's plasma weapons were designed to destroy shields created by a race of people capable of crossing the distances between galaxies in hours if not days and were exploring space for millions of years before humanity had existed.
Man having a Borg assimilated Odyssey class with Asgard beam weapons...YIKES. Not surprised it took the Galaxy Class X from Hell to defeat it and same for the Section 31 Defiant from Hell lol.
Wow.. a SG-1 Assimilated ship gosh was powerful.. jeepers did not expect than, and phasers from it.. and torpedoes.. the mods are crazy.. very nice battle Retro!!!🖖
gosh that was intense i thought the Borg Odyssey is completly OP but luckely the Hell Ship and Transphasic Torps still work. thx for the upload it was interesting.
Even with out borg modification a star trek ship of the 23 or 24 century does not stand a chance as it is dealing with a ship that has tech from what would be 30 century equivalent based on the Asguard tech added and their level of tech.
I think (have not checked the files tho, I can only infer) that version of the assimilated Odyssey has two problems: First is that they added Regenerative Shields 1, thinknig that would divide the power regenerated by half or something. Issue is, Regenerative Shields 1 makes the shields not drop unless a blast is powerful enough to directly hit the hull, such as a beam powerful enough to leave the shield at 30% or less, or ignore the shields. Second is that I believe those torpedoes are projectile substitutes, their real borg or assimilated-railgun weaponry is likely missing.
Update: Idk if Retro's has another version, but the one I found has 9999 shield regeneration, that also works as a counter for pretty much any damage they could deal that was less than 9999 damage per second.
Update 2 - effectively they are missing borg weapons, something called "x303nanites" - I temporarily replaced those on my install for a variant of Borg Nanites with 750 dmg and Asgard Ion cannon sounds.
Update 3 - the models for both X303 AND BC-304 mods seem to do something weird with the shields as well, the damage bleedtrough it too high and too likely, even for a ship having 450k shield strength and 9999 shield regeneration for each side. It's the reason the Excelsior II managed to take out most of the energy weapon emplacements.
It's funny how Borg ships are by and large hilariously underpowered in this game, but the second they assimilate another race's ship it becomes super powerful.
Yeah Stargate always had the advantage on shields and speed. Perhaps weapons, as well. I really thought Star Trek Picard era Starfleet tech would be more on par, but clearly the Borg were happy to find the Tau'ri vessel.
The Borg stuff doesn't actually improve the BC-304 in most respects. The Asgard systems are superior in every way. Only thing the Borg add is the ability to quickly repair damaged systems.
@@kevinwestrom4775 TBH, I don't think there's any Starfleet weapon that would be a threat to even a non Unending upgraded 304 with the exception of Transphasic Torpedoes. That also goes for Borg weapons and probably even Species 8472 that's the level of tech disparity here.
You are wrong, from two points of view. First, let's assume that Asgard systems are superior in every way (personally I do not think it is in every way, will explain later)... the BC-304 is still a human design full of inefficiencies, even with Asgard help, and even after getting the Asgard Core, it could not use it to full, partly from energy requirements, and part from not being the latest cutting-edge technology the Asgard could not provide, the Asgard were still hastily doing upgrades to the Odyssey when the Ori arrived - even the BC-305, the Hammond-class and successor to the BC-304, still has some issues, even if it's clearly an improvement from the BC-304. Now let's assume the Borg assimilated the refitted Odyssey, allowing the ship to be far, far, far more efficient, and thus having more power and redundancies available for the Asgard Shielding and Weapons, making them more sturdy and powerful, even from just having more power diverted to them. The BC-304 could be even increasingly more upgraded if the Borg were lucky enough to assimilate the Odyssey while it still had the Asgard core with all the Asgard knowledge inside. Even without that, the railguns could be easily upgraded into something more powerful. Second, the Borg are not inferior to the Asgard in every way, some clear aspects where the Borg would be superior (apart from adaptability, but the Asgard were already fighting with the Replicators so that adaptability may not be a surprise during a fight) is in their hulls being stronger and more resistant to uncontrolled re-entrance into an atmosphere, and FTL fights, if only because in Stargate realspace FTL fights just not happen because of hyperdrives being used, so the Asgard never needed to develop standard long-range weapons. Just look at the Asgard plasma beams or Ion cannons, they are close-range compared with a Borg Cube cutting beam, or pretty much any ST space-faring civilization. Also the Borg have an advantage in regards to design, most of their vessels lack any exclusive primary systems, they are evenly distributed so the ship could still be operational even with 75% of the ship being debris.
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The assimilated 304 is quite the beast. The Defiant and GX FH had no struggle against it, though, despite its power. Battle request: could it single-handedly take on the Ori invasion force of 4 Ori motherships?
This is not the Asgard upgraded Odyssey. What you are asking for would be a slaughter.... Rbg has pitted the Borg against the Ori and it wasn't pretty for the Borg. Without the Asgard technology, this particular mod is kind of meh.
Due to weird model shape, despite the assimialted BC-304 having 450k shields and 9999 shield regeneration (more than 450% the power the asgard-refitted odyssey has), it kinda performs the same as the unassimilated unupgraded BC-304, because the shield bleedthrough on the model is bad, as if it was not covering all systems appropiately (so a small lucky hit can totally take out the asgard beam weapons and soemtimes hit the reactor), and the asgard beams on both exist and have identical hardpoints but different textures, while the assimialted one has nanite projectiles more pwoerful than the railguns of the unassimilated one but lacks naquadah tactical launchers, so overall same firepower.
No, these were not the Asgard beams. You could tell these beams were solely the borg weapons, they behave identically to all the other Borg beams in BC. Borg-upgraded Asgard beams would have one-shotted just about everything.
@@EcokadeBlogspot I checked the mod's hardpoint, the beams you see are exactly the asgard plasma beams used on the BC-304 but green and with borg texture.
I checked the mod, there were no Naquadah torpedoes - in fact the projectiels the ship was suppsoed to have were not present so it defaulted to KM Projectile Substitute.
@@arm514ve5 nah, they deal 600 dmg, same as stock torpedoes. Only thing is that the BC-304 was firing them like a machine gun because the ProjectileSubstitute was replacing a rapid-fire pulse
😂😅😂I was just think it was time to send the Griffin in.......and I was not disappointed 😅🖖 Wonder if a fleet of inquiry class could do it. Like the super powerful mirror like version 😅🖖🖖🖖🖖
Asgard and Ancient tech would waste the Federation AND the Borg. The Borg would have never taken over that ship... unless.. they also took over the replicators. That brings on a question in and of itself.
whats crazy is the SG ship is from our time, imagine what they will be like in 100-1'000 years. Try putting the Odyssey against the NX-01 to see how wildly divergent the difference between SG and ST universe are in regards to technological development. SG is pretty OP compared to most every other universe.
Excessively overpowered! When a 29th Century Borg drone cannot modify Voyager systems enough to destroy a borg sphere that was from the current century, that makes an X 304 modified by the borg to be total BS
That's not a good thing if the Borg got a hold of Asgard technology. Looks like I was right. Unlike Terrans, they created a weapon of mass destruction. Whoever was in charge should have set the self-destruct. 😄 Once again... transphasic torpedoes... my answer to everything. 😆
This is just bad fan art. That ship would be on the level of the NX class at best. Borg enhancements wouldn't do much, as they borg claimed that even Voyager's tech was limited.
Nah the BC-304 ship is more powerful than the NX, at least on shields (which the NX class lacked), albeit Stargate shields and Federation shields worked a bit differently, on the one hand SG shields are more susceptible to certain weapons, but even a primitive Go'auld shield could stand being close to a sun for a very good while (probably because Go'auld tech is repurposed stolen Ancient tech and the ancients had experience with needing to get close to Stars to refuel some of their older ships).
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That was brutal for the Excelsior 2, I wish that distress call worked and called in the klingon borg hunter to see if it would work.
If that's a post Ori 304, then the Borg has assimilated Asgard shields, Asgard Plasma beams and potentially ZPM technology.
Not to mention the entirety of the Asgard database which would also include any research into Alteran technology. So, the Borg potentially could have access to transphasic weaponry (Drones) and the knowledge to build Stargates/Supergates.
I agree .. Game over. I'm pretty sure that [depending on how you want to scale] that the Trek ships should likely have been "one shot" if they'd have been directly hit by the beam weapon. This should be like fighting the Q just before they "ascended" ... I am kind of glad that the "Galaxy X from hell" was able to do something ... not sure if I was right but I still liked it :)
And the Borg would be unstoppable.
Yeah, this ship is definitely not badass enough for that. It's clearly pre-asgard upgrades.
@@EcokadeBlogspotthe only thing of value is probably the Asgard shields, hyperdrive, naquadah/Naquadria in the nuclear warheads.
I will say that a post refit BC-304 bc-304 Odyssey) with Asgard power core/asgard database would be insane.
It as all of the Asgard’s knowledge base including schematics on the replicators.
An assimilated ship from Stargate? I love the modders in Star Trek Bridge Commander. They really have an awesome collective imagination that has created quite a hive of ships to choose from!
😂😂😂
You forget that the Odyssey's plasma weapons were designed to destroy shields created by a race of people capable of crossing the distances between galaxies in hours if not days and were exploring space for millions of years before humanity had existed.
And that's why my head canon puts the 304s in the top tier of Star Trek ship levels, minus the Borg
Pretty cool battle, but I wish you had done one from the Odyssey ship as well against perhaps the Husnock warship or Galaxy class X ship.
Man having a Borg assimilated Odyssey class with Asgard beam weapons...YIKES. Not surprised it took the Galaxy Class X from Hell to defeat it and same for the Section 31 Defiant from Hell lol.
No, the Asgard beam weapon was not present. This was clearly an odyssey assimilated prior to all that.
Wow.. a SG-1 Assimilated ship gosh was powerful.. jeepers did not expect than, and phasers from it.. and torpedoes.. the mods are crazy.. very nice battle Retro!!!🖖
Thanks buddy 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming Your welcome buddy..!!!🖖
An assimilated Daedalus class Earth ship… love it!!! 🖖🏽
gosh that was intense i thought the Borg Odyssey is completly OP but luckely the Hell Ship and Transphasic Torps still work. thx for the upload it was interesting.
Even with out borg modification a star trek ship of the 23 or 24 century does not stand a chance as it is dealing with a ship that has tech from what would be 30 century equivalent based on the Asguard tech added and their level of tech.
I think (have not checked the files tho, I can only infer) that version of the assimilated Odyssey has two problems:
First is that they added Regenerative Shields 1, thinknig that would divide the power regenerated by half or something. Issue is, Regenerative Shields 1 makes the shields not drop unless a blast is powerful enough to directly hit the hull, such as a beam powerful enough to leave the shield at 30% or less, or ignore the shields.
Second is that I believe those torpedoes are projectile substitutes, their real borg or assimilated-railgun weaponry is likely missing.
Update: Idk if Retro's has another version, but the one I found has 9999 shield regeneration, that also works as a counter for pretty much any damage they could deal that was less than 9999 damage per second.
Update 2 - effectively they are missing borg weapons, something called "x303nanites" - I temporarily replaced those on my install for a variant of Borg Nanites with 750 dmg and Asgard Ion cannon sounds.
Update 3 - the models for both X303 AND BC-304 mods seem to do something weird with the shields as well, the damage bleedtrough it too high and too likely, even for a ship having 450k shield strength and 9999 shield regeneration for each side. It's the reason the Excelsior II managed to take out most of the energy weapon emplacements.
Agreed. This is wonky.
It's funny how Borg ships are by and large hilariously underpowered in this game, but the second they assimilate another race's ship it becomes super powerful.
Ty for the video and LLAP!
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For a dollar, yes? 😉
Yeah Stargate always had the advantage on shields and speed. Perhaps weapons, as well. I really thought Star Trek Picard era Starfleet tech would be more on par, but clearly the Borg were happy to find the Tau'ri vessel.
The Borg stuff doesn't actually improve the BC-304 in most respects. The Asgard systems are superior in every way. Only thing the Borg add is the ability to quickly repair damaged systems.
And adaptive shielding to most of Starfleets weapons.
@@kevinwestrom4775 TBH, I don't think there's any Starfleet weapon that would be a threat to even a non Unending upgraded 304 with the exception of Transphasic Torpedoes. That also goes for Borg weapons and probably even Species 8472 that's the level of tech disparity here.
You are wrong, from two points of view.
First, let's assume that Asgard systems are superior in every way (personally I do not think it is in every way, will explain later)... the BC-304 is still a human design full of inefficiencies, even with Asgard help, and even after getting the Asgard Core, it could not use it to full, partly from energy requirements, and part from not being the latest cutting-edge technology the Asgard could not provide, the Asgard were still hastily doing upgrades to the Odyssey when the Ori arrived - even the BC-305, the Hammond-class and successor to the BC-304, still has some issues, even if it's clearly an improvement from the BC-304. Now let's assume the Borg assimilated the refitted Odyssey, allowing the ship to be far, far, far more efficient, and thus having more power and redundancies available for the Asgard Shielding and Weapons, making them more sturdy and powerful, even from just having more power diverted to them. The BC-304 could be even increasingly more upgraded if the Borg were lucky enough to assimilate the Odyssey while it still had the Asgard core with all the Asgard knowledge inside. Even without that, the railguns could be easily upgraded into something more powerful.
Second, the Borg are not inferior to the Asgard in every way, some clear aspects where the Borg would be superior (apart from adaptability, but the Asgard were already fighting with the Replicators so that adaptability may not be a surprise during a fight) is in their hulls being stronger and more resistant to uncontrolled re-entrance into an atmosphere, and FTL fights, if only because in Stargate realspace FTL fights just not happen because of hyperdrives being used, so the Asgard never needed to develop standard long-range weapons. Just look at the Asgard plasma beams or Ion cannons, they are close-range compared with a Borg Cube cutting beam, or pretty much any ST space-faring civilization. Also the Borg have an advantage in regards to design, most of their vessels lack any exclusive primary systems, they are evenly distributed so the ship could still be operational even with 75% of the ship being debris.
Keep that evil thing away from my precious Grand Nagus!!!
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Would like to see this vs an Unending Upgraded BC-304.
Would be curious what the Klingon Borg Hunter could do. But if it took the Galaxy X from hell I don’t have high hopes for the Borg Hunter
Your super ship did make the shields pop down to 99% before immediately jumping back to 100
Hey I got that same pack but can’t get it to run full screen and it’s laggy and I have a good gaming rig anywhere I can Download a setup that works better?
The assimilated 304 is quite the beast. The Defiant and GX FH had no struggle against it, though, despite its power. Battle request: could it single-handedly take on the Ori invasion force of 4 Ori motherships?
This is not the Asgard upgraded Odyssey. What you are asking for would be a slaughter.... Rbg has pitted the Borg against the Ori and it wasn't pretty for the Borg. Without the Asgard technology, this particular mod is kind of meh.
@@EcokadeBlogspot it is the asgard-upgraded odyssey tho, i checked the mod hardpoints.
Due to weird model shape, despite the assimialted BC-304 having 450k shields and 9999 shield regeneration (more than 450% the power the asgard-refitted odyssey has), it kinda performs the same as the unassimilated unupgraded BC-304, because the shield bleedthrough on the model is bad, as if it was not covering all systems appropiately (so a small lucky hit can totally take out the asgard beam weapons and soemtimes hit the reactor), and the asgard beams on both exist and have identical hardpoints but different textures, while the assimialted one has nanite projectiles more pwoerful than the railguns of the unassimilated one but lacks naquadah tactical launchers, so overall same firepower.
Naquada enhanced photons are OP I think that's where most of the damage came from as well as the close in borg enhanced Asgard beams.
No, these were not the Asgard beams. You could tell these beams were solely the borg weapons, they behave identically to all the other Borg beams in BC. Borg-upgraded Asgard beams would have one-shotted just about everything.
@@EcokadeBlogspot I checked the mod's hardpoint, the beams you see are exactly the asgard plasma beams used on the BC-304 but green and with borg texture.
I checked the mod, there were no Naquadah torpedoes - in fact the projectiels the ship was suppsoed to have were not present so it defaulted to KM Projectile Substitute.
@@alexslgato1735 then KM default Torps are OP as hell.
@@arm514ve5 nah, they deal 600 dmg, same as stock torpedoes. Only thing is that the BC-304 was firing them like a machine gun because the ProjectileSubstitute was replacing a rapid-fire pulse
That Borg ship is so powerful, it must be terrifying if they decide to assimilate a random ship and its crew 😟🖖
Has the base star been assimilated yet?
Borg Odyssey vs. 29th century borg cube. Can borg oddy take it out?
😂😅😂I was just think it was time to send the Griffin in.......and I was not disappointed 😅🖖
Wonder if a fleet of inquiry class could do it. Like the super powerful mirror like version 😅🖖🖖🖖🖖
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so what kind of specs does the assimilated X301 Odyssey have?
I wonder if humans could reprogram the replicators .. now .. and send them to fix the Destiny ...
Borg shields and Transphasic torpedoes would see off any foe.
Asgard and Ancient tech would waste the Federation AND the Borg. The Borg would have never taken over that ship... unless.. they also took over the replicators.
That brings on a question in and of itself.
whats crazy is the SG ship is from our time, imagine what they will be like in 100-1'000 years.
Try putting the Odyssey against the NX-01 to see how wildly divergent the difference between SG and ST universe are in regards to technological development. SG is pretty OP compared to most every other universe.
Is that a Borg plasma cutting beam, or is it an assimilated Asgard directed energy weapon?
You could warp to another system Request video try video ?
And they have taken the asgard shield. So you can say they have even stronger shields. What would happen if the borg are getting a zpm.
Excessively overpowered! When a 29th Century Borg drone cannot modify Voyager systems enough to destroy a borg sphere that was from the current century, that makes an X 304 modified by the borg to be total BS
That's not a good thing if the Borg got a hold of Asgard technology.
Looks like I was right.
Unlike Terrans, they created a weapon of mass destruction.
Whoever was in charge should have set the self-destruct. 😄
Once again... transphasic torpedoes... my answer to everything. 😆
If you fired a genesis torpedo at a borg cube would it turn into a giant cube shaped garden? And would all the borg look like the flowerpot men?
The borg crush you!
Husnock? They were all wiped out.
asguardian shield has that taken over borg version off the Stargate vessel
Why is every bridge the same ?
Borg with Asgard technology is insane, bye bye entire universe at that point.
Borg + Asgard shields = boned 😁
Borgified ZPM module, Borgified Asguard Energy weapons. Not a good time for Starfleet.
You need an ancient warship to stop that 304 or Atlantis
Asgard plasma lance stronger than phasers CONFIRMED!
You need V.GER!!!
Must have a zpm
Asgard Borg Shields.
This is just bad fan art. That ship would be on the level of the NX class at best. Borg enhancements wouldn't do much, as they borg claimed that even Voyager's tech was limited.
Bro, have you not seen the power of the Asgard beam weapon, even without mods?
Nah the BC-304 ship is more powerful than the NX, at least on shields (which the NX class lacked), albeit Stargate shields and Federation shields worked a bit differently, on the one hand SG shields are more susceptible to certain weapons, but even a primitive Go'auld shield could stand being close to a sun for a very good while (probably because Go'auld tech is repurposed stolen Ancient tech and the ancients had experience with needing to get close to Stars to refuel some of their older ships).
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