whether you like or not....this has been a huge thing for Thorpe....because he WAS NOT a sprinter!!! remeber that people!!! he came third, yeah, but he beat guys like magnini who was always a sprinter!!!! in my opinion, this is something that everyone (thorpe's fans or not) ought to admire. period
I'm American but a Thorpe fan. Who knows why we prefer certain athletes. Maybe it's his very smooth, loping style, in addition to how well spoken he his out of the pool. He doesn't seem like a "jock."
Most complete swimmer ever Michael Phelps, no doubt, but most talented swimmer ever Roland Matthes -winner of olympic gold medals in 1968 and 1972. He was probably the craziest swimmer in history too. Unfortunately there's no video of him on TH-cam.
To be fair, he mostly beat phelps because it was before Phelps' prime. It would have been a much different race in 2007 and later. I've heard Thorpe say in an interview that he sometimes wishes Phelps was the same age as him (Thorpe is 2 years older), so he would have that rivalry to keep him motivated in the sport. Now their peaks didn't really overlap and phelps only became as good as Thorpe in freestyle after Thorpe retired.
thorpe would have owned everybody if he trained as much for the 100 as well as the 200 and 400. Basically just decided to do this just for something a bit different to test himself so to speak and ended up with a bronze medal. A freak.
Bullshit. Phelps often wins 5 or 6 individual races at one point. This is Thorpe's 3rd best event of the Olympics distance events then so it was a main event for him, the events he dabbled in for fun were the 200 IM, 200 fly, 100 backstroke, were his results were worse. He didn't win at it (and never has won at the 100 freestyle) since he isn't good enough at it. Which isn't a knock on him, hardly anyone ever wins at more than 2 or at most 3 individual events. The only ones who do are the 2 best swimmers ever- Phelps and Spitz. If he replaced the 400 free with the 100 free as one of his 2 "main events" if you will he still doesn't win the 100 often or ever, and loses out on all those 400 golds, so is worse off.
Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. 2 USA Jeff Rouse. Brad Bridgewater. Tom Dolan. only (3) three gold medals. 1. RUS. Alexander Popov. Denis Pankratov. only (4) four gold medals. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996 check: USA 🇺🇸 - RUS.🇷🇺. 3 - 4.
Anyone notice a few racist comments here? Also, please read more on Ian before you criticize about him, it pains to read misunderstood people's comments.
fair enough. I need to look into Roland, don't know anything about him. There's been many great backstrokers like Naber, Peirsol, Carey, Matthes,etc so choosing one must be difficult. I think Peirsol is the most accomplished backstroker ever.
No swimmers have ever been as dominant as Thorpe, Phelps, and Spitz. When Spitz was younger, he was #1 in his national level age group for EVERY event, and won 7 gold medals in a single games. Thorpe had the WR record in every freestyle event execpt the 50 (maybe 100) and mile. Phelps is quite obvious. However, do not rule out Spitz as one of the greatest of the greatest. The amount that he won his races by (even though swimming was a side hobby for his dental career) was remarkable.
if Schoeman had the same endurance as Hoogenband had, he would be able to set 47secs or below in this race. However, credit to Hoogie for his excellent stamina and spirit that he could chase Schoeman and won at the final stroke.
Can anyone explain to me Thorpe's loose streamline? He does that in all the footage I've seen of him. I thought it was just one of those things they hadn't figured out was slow yet (like the start he uses) but in this video the announcer called it out like it was obvious, so they must have known.
@666heavymetaladdict 2 yrs he trained for this did he? the swimmers he was up agianst trained for this specifically for a long long time so therefore he was still behind the 8 ball, he never paid as much attention to the 100 as he did the 200 and 400.
LOL Pieter has never lost to Thorpe in a 100 metre race ever. Not sure how you don't know how he could do something he always did. PVD beat Thorpe at the 200 occasionaly, but Thorpe never beat PVD at the 100.
@percdann Thorpe took swimming to a new level, far more than Hoogie, and in reality Spitz "only" had 1 amazing meet (understatement of the century I know). Phelps is undisputed, but it's actually Dawn Fraser and Krisztina Egerszegi who are next best, then Thorpe, then Spitz. Hoogie not in that group, he's with Evans and Mary T and Shane Gould.... that's my take anyway :)
Thorpe is better of Phelps, in many ways. Phelps is the Greatest for the numbers, but in terms of pure talent and Class I take Thorpe all the life. And... the Greatest freestyle swimmer of all time, the ‘Perfect Stroke’
Well, I think Roland Matthes has been by far the most gifted backstroker ever, the problem is that not many people knows much about him (the '70 are far away!), and I reckon that Spitz was more talented than Phelps in butterfly. Phelps is unique in that he is a great champion in three styles and not bad at all at breaststroke too! Most complete swimmer ever. This is my humble opinion mate. :)
thorpe was the 400 free wr holder, 400 free world champ, and defending 400 free olympic champ. If there had been another 10-20 metres more, thorpe would have extended his margin of victory.
I doubt that, considering VDH's 2nd 50 was faster than Thorpe's (24.90 to 24.99). More like another whole 100 metres which would make it a 200 freestyle, the event Thorpe had won over VDH earlier these Games.
This are my best ever in each event -it wasn't easy, especially in 100 freestyle were Popov and Van den Hoogenban as so close to the top. Freestyle 50 A. Popov, 100 M. Biondi, 200 I. Thorpe, 400 I. Thorpe 1500 V. Salnikov Butterfly 100 M. Spitz, 200 M. Phelps Backstroke 100 R. Matthes, 200 J. Naber Breaststroke 100 K. kitajima, 200 K. Kitajima Medley 200 M. Phelps, 400 M. Phelps Any comments? Silly people like andresrojas22 please stay at home. Thanks.
200 doesn't have a clear winner for me. If it weren't for his drug use I would say Sun Yang who on paper probably has the best record, but with his drug use not comfortable picking him. I am trying to think of someone who defended an Olympic title in that event, but can't think of anyone. If someone does that I will automatically give it to them. Michael Gross has a good case, he was undefeated at the 200 metres for something like 5 years. If he had done better at the 88 Olympics I would have picked him. 100 isn't clear for me either. Popov defended his Olympic title, and so did VDH, which BIondi never did. In fact he didn't even medal in his 2nd Olympics at the 100. Popov was also undefeated about 6 years so I would go with him probably. I agree with all your other choices. Maybe Phelps above Spitz for the 100 fly too though. In fact probably Phelps there. This was 15 years ago though so can see why you didn't pick him, but he easily takes it now. Also this was year ago, but would for sure pick Adam Peaty now for the 100 breast. Easily, nobody comes close.
because the americans think noone has the rite to achieve anything other than them. its great when a great swimmer like thorpe comes along to kick there ass.....they can harp on about phelps all they like on how great he is....but basically phelps has no Challengers for his gold targets in olympics 2008 thats why he'll probably win the 9 hes going for. if only thorpe would of done one more olympics just to spoil the yanks party....what ashame ..
raff23....lol you ignorance is astounding. 2 years previously he changed coach to focus on the 100 and 200 free. This wasnt a wildcard race, he actually trained specifically for this and the 200 free leading up to the olympics. So please, be quiet.
haha, I'm American and I have to totally agree with you on that. hmm, leave it up to us to mess up the language in such a way, you know, there's no one out there who would do it so well as we do. =D
What is da point in tht? i watched a 6min vid showing me pieter van den hooganband winnning the final in athens on a video called 'Ian Thorpe 100m free final Athens 2004' Sort it soon!
Listen, im not a professional swimmer but i love swimmin'. You're missing the point. The point is simple, Phelps is the best swimmer ever and Thorpie is one of the best freestyle swimmers ever along with Popov and probably Van den hoogenband. Im not criticizing thorpe who was a great swimmer. Im just saying that Michael is the best ever and you can't judge me for telling the truth. Im not here to bash Thorpe. I respect Ian but Michael's career has been better period.
Sq12Sq22u22 it may not seem so but the swimmers with other swimmers on either side of them have to deal with the disturbances in the water made by the other swimmers whilst those in lane 1 or 8 only have his happening from one side due to the design of the edges of the pool ( that grate type thing)
It's funny that Dara Tores is commentating on this race, when her career isn't even over, haha. She probably didn't know she was heading for a bronze medal in beijing 4 years later.
@Questionable23 Oh yea, I totally get it, and i believe that phelps is the best swimmer there has ever been, but after that i put hoogie, then spitz, then i would rank thorpe and POPOV, who is also all too forgotten. He was a great swimmer.
I think the US can't talk much as they've learnt their lesson not to talk too much before winning an event. Watch "swimmer ian thorpe olympics 2000" and then talk. He proved him wrong big woopidoo.
what about Peirsol mate? He's greatest backstroker ever? I think Phelps is still the best 100 fly over Spitz. Not sure about 200 freestyle coz Phelps has accomplished the same in 200 freestyle than Thorpe.
all thru that vid they basiclly dissed australia ian thorpe wont do it blah blah blah..yet he got bronze n after he got it they changed there attitude towards him
yeh phelps reckons he is all good but if he was against eamon sullivan in 100m freestyle he would lose sullivan has the world record. phelps is so cocky i personally dont want him to get the 8 gold medals
@swimaa92 phelps is better at thy uder events, but he will not be fastre at 100 m then Ian Thorpe, hes a rocket! Thorpe beat Phelps and retired...some years ago ;),
I am sorry, no offence intended, but when I hear the american way of pronouncing of 'semifinals', I get really irritated...Butchering the language in such way, yuck...
Im not crying about it. Im stating the truth. Phelps is gonna end up as the best ever and Thorpe as a quitter who couldn't deal with the pressure of being the best.
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Who's gonna be remembered as the best swimmer of all time mate? and who's gonna be remembered as the Best QUITTER OF ALL TIME? hahahahhahhaha. Let's get real here.
Thoorpe rules what? he only won 5 golds in olympic games. Phelps has 14 golds in olympic history. Phelp's done something unique which is winning 8 GOLDS in a single olympic games and he broke 7 world records. Thorpe nothing compared to Phelps.
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Phelps coach said thorpe was "the greatest middle-distance swimmer of all time and he's the greatest relay swimmer I have seen"
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I’ve never seen anyone swimming freestyle as technically perfect as Ian Thorpe. NO ONE. Not even Michael Phelps.
@@razvanf1147 just watched him. Great swimmer, so young! The future is on his side! But I still prefer Ian Thorpe’s effortless style.
@@razvanf1147same here:)
Agree
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whether you like or not....this has been a huge thing for Thorpe....because he WAS NOT a sprinter!!! remeber that people!!! he came third, yeah, but he beat guys like magnini who was always a sprinter!!!! in my opinion, this is something that everyone (thorpe's fans or not) ought to admire. period
And lane 8!!!
I love the fact that van den Hoogenband and Thorpe directly went to each other's lanes to congratulate each other.
i love how they say 'there he is' when theyre talking about thorpe. what a legend. favourite swimmer of all time
Thorpe was awesone
I'm American but a Thorpe fan. Who knows why we prefer certain athletes. Maybe it's his very smooth, loping style, in addition to how well spoken he his out of the pool. He doesn't seem like a "jock."
THORPE HAS THE BEST STROKE STYLE
Most complete swimmer ever Michael Phelps, no doubt, but most talented swimmer ever Roland Matthes -winner of olympic gold medals in 1968 and 1972.
He was probably the craziest swimmer in history too.
Unfortunately there's no video of him on TH-cam.
love to hear the Yanks be as gracious about Thorpe as we are about Phelps. Much respect to both.
Ian Thorpe was pretty good also...
Remember, Ian Thorpe BEAT PHELPS in the 200m freestyle, 2004 (called the race of the century)
To be fair, he mostly beat phelps because it was before Phelps' prime. It would have been a much different race in 2007 and later.
I've heard Thorpe say in an interview that he sometimes wishes Phelps was the same age as him (Thorpe is 2 years older), so he would have that rivalry to keep him motivated in the sport. Now their peaks didn't really overlap and phelps only became as good as Thorpe in freestyle after Thorpe retired.
Thorpe was simply the BEST!!!
thorpe would have owned everybody if he trained as much for the 100 as well as the 200 and 400. Basically just decided to do this just for something a bit different to test himself so to speak and ended up with a bronze medal. A freak.
Bullshit. Phelps often wins 5 or 6 individual races at one point. This is Thorpe's 3rd best event of the Olympics distance events then so it was a main event for him, the events he dabbled in for fun were the 200 IM, 200 fly, 100 backstroke, were his results were worse. He didn't win at it (and never has won at the 100 freestyle) since he isn't good enough at it. Which isn't a knock on him, hardly anyone ever wins at more than 2 or at most 3 individual events. The only ones who do are the 2 best swimmers ever- Phelps and Spitz. If he replaced the 400 free with the 100 free as one of his 2 "main events" if you will he still doesn't win the 100 often or ever, and loses out on all those 400 golds, so is worse off.
Congrats to Phelps and US.
I like Ian Thorpe. He's good looking, hot and I love his smile. :)
Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996. Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming.
2 USA Jeff Rouse. Brad Bridgewater. Tom Dolan. only (3) three gold medals.
1. RUS. Alexander Popov. Denis Pankratov. only (4) four gold medals.
Men's Swimming. Individual Gold medals in Men's Swimming. Olympic Games in Atlanta 1996 check: USA 🇺🇸 - RUS.🇷🇺. 3 - 4.
Anyone notice a few racist comments here?
Also, please read more on Ian before you criticize about him, it pains to read misunderstood people's comments.
Yes I agree. Ian Thorpe is an amazing swimmer.
Give me a break.
The female commentator is very biased. Thorpe's streamline is perfect.
if i had that talent i wouldnt quit.the 2000 4 x 100 free was sick
fair enough. I need to look into Roland, don't know anything about him. There's been many great backstrokers like Naber, Peirsol, Carey, Matthes,etc so choosing one must be difficult. I think Peirsol is the most accomplished backstroker ever.
Ian Thorpe won 5 gold medals in his whole life. But how many gold medals has PHELPS won so far?? :)
thorpedo middle distance specialist.
No swimmers have ever been as dominant as Thorpe, Phelps, and Spitz. When Spitz was younger, he was #1 in his national level age group for EVERY event, and won 7 gold medals in a single games. Thorpe had the WR record in every freestyle event execpt the 50 (maybe 100) and mile. Phelps is quite obvious. However, do not rule out Spitz as one of the greatest of the greatest. The amount that he won his races by (even though swimming was a side hobby for his dental career) was remarkable.
Popov. Alexander Popov
Mark Spitz is the greatest of them all !
I think the dental career followed the swimming.
Thorpe had a godawful breastroke, but he still would have had a chance in IMs if he swum them before Phelps hit the scene.
if Schoeman had the same endurance as Hoogenband had, he would be able to set 47secs or below in this race. However, credit to Hoogie for his excellent stamina and spirit that he could chase Schoeman and won at the final stroke.
That's some funny stuff...'I don't think Ian Thorpe knows what to do there in Lane 8 he never waited so long to be introduced'.......lol....
Can anyone explain to me Thorpe's loose streamline? He does that in all the footage I've seen of him. I thought it was just one of those things they hadn't figured out was slow yet (like the start he uses) but in this video the announcer called it out like it was obvious, so they must have known.
what if the current WR was broken by someone who's not famous.. Would you say that he's the best swimmer?
@666heavymetaladdict 2 yrs he trained for this did he? the swimmers he was up agianst trained for this specifically for a long long time so therefore he was still behind the 8 ball, he never paid as much attention to the 100 as he did the 200 and 400.
I don’t get it how Peter won't against Ian but well.. well deserved🎉🎉🎉🎉 great athletes of all times. Epic😊
LOL Pieter has never lost to Thorpe in a 100 metre race ever. Not sure how you don't know how he could do something he always did. PVD beat Thorpe at the 200 occasionaly, but Thorpe never beat PVD at the 100.
@percdann Thorpe took swimming to a new level, far more than Hoogie, and in reality Spitz "only" had 1 amazing meet (understatement of the century I know). Phelps is undisputed, but it's actually Dawn Fraser and Krisztina Egerszegi who are next best, then Thorpe, then Spitz. Hoogie not in that group, he's with Evans and Mary T and Shane Gould.... that's my take anyway :)
Thorpe is better of Phelps, in many ways. Phelps is the Greatest for the numbers, but in terms of pure talent and Class I take Thorpe all the life. And... the Greatest freestyle swimmer of all time, the ‘Perfect Stroke’
Well, I think Roland Matthes has been by far the most gifted backstroker ever, the problem is that not many people knows much about him (the '70 are far away!), and I reckon that Spitz was more talented than Phelps in butterfly. Phelps is unique in that he is a great champion in three styles and not bad at all at breaststroke too! Most complete swimmer ever. This is my humble opinion mate. :)
he went to my high school :)
I think you're dreaming mate. This race was 4 years ago.
thorpe was the 400 free wr holder, 400 free world champ, and defending 400 free olympic champ.
If there had been another 10-20 metres more, thorpe would have extended his margin of victory.
I doubt that, considering VDH's 2nd 50 was faster than Thorpe's (24.90 to 24.99). More like another whole 100 metres which would make it a 200 freestyle, the event Thorpe had won over VDH earlier these Games.
ye i agree,i prefer how thorpe swims like hes style
This are my best ever in each event -it wasn't easy, especially in 100 freestyle were Popov and Van den Hoogenban as so close to the top.
Freestyle
50 A. Popov, 100 M. Biondi, 200 I. Thorpe, 400 I. Thorpe
1500 V. Salnikov
Butterfly
100 M. Spitz, 200 M. Phelps
Backstroke
100 R. Matthes, 200 J. Naber
Breaststroke
100 K. kitajima, 200 K. Kitajima
Medley
200 M. Phelps, 400 M. Phelps
Any comments? Silly people like andresrojas22 please stay at home. Thanks.
200 doesn't have a clear winner for me. If it weren't for his drug use I would say Sun Yang who on paper probably has the best record, but with his drug use not comfortable picking him. I am trying to think of someone who defended an Olympic title in that event, but can't think of anyone. If someone does that I will automatically give it to them. Michael Gross has a good case, he was undefeated at the 200 metres for something like 5 years. If he had done better at the 88 Olympics I would have picked him.
100 isn't clear for me either. Popov defended his Olympic title, and so did VDH, which BIondi never did. In fact he didn't even medal in his 2nd Olympics at the 100. Popov was also undefeated about 6 years so I would go with him probably.
I agree with all your other choices. Maybe Phelps above Spitz for the 100 fly too though. In fact probably Phelps there. This was 15 years ago though so can see why you didn't pick him, but he easily takes it now.
Also this was year ago, but would for sure pick Adam Peaty now for the 100 breast. Easily, nobody comes close.
because the americans think noone has the rite to achieve anything other than them. its great when a great swimmer like thorpe comes along to kick there ass.....they can harp on about phelps all they like on how great he is....but basically phelps has no Challengers for his gold targets in olympics 2008 thats why he'll probably win the 9 hes going for. if only thorpe would of done one more olympics just to spoil the yanks party....what ashame ..
the world record is 47.05 set in the 2008 games by Eamon Sullivan.
raff23....lol you ignorance is astounding. 2 years previously he changed coach to focus on the 100 and 200 free. This wasnt a wildcard race, he actually trained specifically for this and the 200 free leading up to the olympics. So please, be quiet.
Actually... only a little more than 1 second faster...you seem to forget that this isn't the short track.
i like ian thorpe and michael phelps. :) Anybody else?? hahahaha.
vd hoogenband was the only one in this final and in the 100m freestyle final in 2008, he is the best.
Also 1996 and 2000 final. :-)
hah. how young was phelps? He will own the world for BILLIONS OF YEARS TO COME
thorpe was the #1 now is phelps
haha, I'm American and I have to totally agree with you on that. hmm, leave it up to us to mess up the language in such a way, you know, there's no one out there who would do it so well as we do. =D
3 seconds??? it's only just over 1 second (1.26) ???
haha i love dara torres in commentary
What is da point in tht? i watched a 6min vid showing me pieter van den hooganband winnning the final in athens on a video called 'Ian Thorpe 100m free final Athens 2004'
Sort it soon!
he didn't train for the 400 in the build up to athens because for a while he wasn't on the team.
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Listen, im not a professional swimmer but i love swimmin'. You're missing the point. The point is simple, Phelps is the best swimmer ever and Thorpie is one of the best freestyle swimmers ever along with Popov and probably Van den hoogenband. Im not criticizing thorpe who was a great swimmer. Im just saying that Michael is the best ever and you can't judge me for telling the truth. Im not here to bash Thorpe. I respect Ian but Michael's career has been better period.
they talked to the technicians who deal with the touchpad systems, and they said there were no mistakes. Phelps won. End of discussion.
@18BRSA18 : The fastest 100 free ever was 46.90, a mere 1.27 seconds faster than this, not 3 seconds...
Thorpe false starts! watch again
You don't get an advantage from lane 8. What rubbish.
Sq12Sq22u22 it may not seem so but the swimmers with other swimmers on either side of them have to deal with the disturbances in the water made by the other swimmers whilst those in lane 1 or 8 only have his happening from one side due to the design of the edges of the pool ( that grate type thing)
Lane 8 less wave n clean water advtg
@@13universalsoldier but lanes 1 and 8 also don't have as much of a draft
@Tavola91 I didnt know the former, but thats why I asked about the latter :P
It's funny that Dara Tores is commentating on this race, when her career isn't even over, haha. She probably didn't know she was heading for a bronze medal in beijing 4 years later.
@Questionable23 Oh yea, I totally get it, and i believe that phelps is the best swimmer there has ever been, but after that i put hoogie, then spitz, then i would rank thorpe and POPOV, who is also all too forgotten. He was a great swimmer.
yes he would be, technically.
lol does anyone else think that its funny that theyre mainly talking about Thorpe, even after he comes 3rd haha
I think the US can't talk much as they've learnt their lesson not to talk too much before winning an event.
Watch "swimmer ian thorpe olympics 2000" and then talk.
He proved him wrong big woopidoo.
why did thorpe retire??
wolfparad he wanted to kill himself
what about Peirsol mate? He's greatest backstroker ever? I think Phelps is still the best 100 fly over Spitz. Not sure about 200 freestyle coz Phelps has accomplished the same in 200 freestyle than Thorpe.
0:39. Whos the hot chick at the front?!
Why is Thorpe in lane 8? He should be in 4 or 5.
His time in the semifinal most likely put him there.
biondi?
Plenty of body suits there!!
Thorpe is slow as hell, without suit, he wouldn’t make it to the preliminary
doesnt matter
Ian Thorpe BEAT the self proclaimed.."best swimmer of all time"
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Hoogenband beat both phelps and thorpe many times.....thats not remembered often enough
all thru that vid they basiclly dissed australia ian thorpe wont do it blah blah blah..yet he got bronze n after he got it they changed there attitude towards him
yes I saw it Cavic was faster and should have won if only he take another stroke.
he is the shit like now phelpse is
*Horrible streamline, though..* LMAO
That guy is a funny commenator..if he wins that 100 he should go straight to the Poker Championships...
I thinks its weird --'
yeh phelps reckons he is all good but if he was against eamon sullivan in 100m freestyle he would lose sullivan has the world record. phelps is so cocky i personally dont want him to get the 8 gold medals
jared9691 rip...
All I'm saying is Usain Bolt is better then Phelps.
well the commentators are just trying to appeal to the mainstreem americans
i dont like it either but i really dont listen to it that much
This comment section is ancient history 😯
Which means he wasn't as faster then doesn't it...
ROLAND MARK SCHOEMAN!!!
don't cry about it
Pieter van den hoogenbon lolz
@swimaa92 phelps is better at thy uder events, but he will not be fastre at 100 m then Ian Thorpe, hes a rocket! Thorpe beat Phelps and retired...some years ago ;),
Phelps NEVER better than Thorpe in EVERY freestyle event.
I am sorry, no offence intended, but when I hear the american way of pronouncing of 'semifinals', I get really irritated...Butchering the language in such way, yuck...
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Im not crying about it. Im stating the truth. Phelps is gonna end up as the best ever and Thorpe as a quitter who couldn't deal with the pressure of being the best.
the serbian Cavic was faster than Phelps,everybody saw it.
no one cares
nadaaaa son unos locos toditoooos albert subirats se barre a michael phelps y ian crocker y tambien al loquito este de ian thorpe... VeNeZuElAaAaAaA...
Who's gonna be remembered as the best swimmer of all time mate? and who's gonna be remembered as the Best QUITTER OF ALL TIME? hahahahhahhaha. Let's get real here.
Thoorpe rules what? he only won 5 golds in olympic games. Phelps has 14 golds in olympic history. Phelp's done something unique which is winning 8 GOLDS in a single olympic games and he broke 7 world records. Thorpe nothing compared to Phelps.