This is revolutionary! Well done Gigabyte ! You just made the most logical upgrade to servers ever... Its only a matter of time before all data centers around the world adopt this technology...
I hope somebody at Gigabyte will read this: Please create the z390 Waterforce motherboard again, and this time include the RAM to be water cooled also! So much work you guys put into the z390 Waterforce, and yet it would have been so effortless to design the RAM being water cooled also. I almost could not believe you guys skipped the RAM. Now your competitors are selling water cooling for RAM, yet you could have solved this easily, and sold us the complete cooling at once. I think this is very reasonable ask since you guys put the price of z390 Waterforce very high. OK :)
This is really amazing technology, Microsoft just launched a new set of servers using a similar design. Awesome to see this technology finally coming to the enterprise market
It would have made sense as this is cooling (thermal transfer) product. Temperatures for chips being cooled on screen and thermal camera pointed to the tank :D
I clicked this in hopes of seeing the reservoir server pump that you showed next to your product 2:45 , what are they actually called? And where can i get one?
Personally this is a great idea and something I've been all about since like 2k. You guy should be working on combining this setup with a 400w+ phase change compressor for below 0C novec cooling.
this is not heat pump, basically just a big vapour chamber for whole system, there is no compressor involved (no moving part) but you still need condenser to cool the vapour to let it become liquid again. furthermore the chamber itself must be tightly sealed otherwise it will be released to the atmosphere.
@@katt2002 Yes I fully understand how novec cooling works. I was making a suggestion for taking the temps to near or subzero range. The biggest drawback with novec is the evaporation rate and cost of the novec. Last I checked it was still in the range of $500 per gallon. Yep novec hfe 7200 $520.20 for 1gal. Price hasn't changed in damn near 20 yrs.
@@NoOpticsPredator You say it is old, but until I see computers with this liquid being sold at retailers nationwide, logic dictates that it is still in the beginning of it's product life cycle, because it has not yet reached mass distribution.
Very interesting. The units appear to be vertical. A 2U server tray is 4 inches tall (I believe the standard size for a unit is 2 inches tall). Are you shifting the way boards and cards are mounted? What is the 3M Novek engineered liquid? You are using a sealed tank for keeping it in such that it condenses which makes sense but what happens if the tank were opened for maintenance and there is a high vapor density? Is the 3M Novek safe to breath or are respirators required? Forgive a moment of tree hugging but I do worry about that, what is the toxicity from an environmental stand point? How must the liquid be disposed of in the event of a spill or in the future an even better cooling solution is developed or better liquid? How is the heat from the condensers removed? Does it just blow out? I believe I saw something about specs for your system included a 2200W power supply. That if fully utilized will generate 7500 BTU/hour of heat. The components will not bothered as the boiling and condensing (so you do not super-heat like a pressure cooker does with increasing pressure raising boiling point) but that heat must go someplace? Where does it go? I am very interested in the subject and find the technology as one that I am interested in. I just have these questions before going further.
If this the novec liquid then the comments about replacing parts being a mess would not be correct as this liquid is not sticky and it dries extremely quickly (in about 20 seconds ) , unlike mineral oil it can disposed easily and it won't take more space then existing server rack solutions
Not applicable for automobiles, for ones using traditional internal combustion engines. Most automobile engines nowadays are liquid cooled, and the liquid it uses is either water or a mix of 50:50 water and coolant. This 3M Novec has a boiling temperature of 49°C or the other version of it boils at 70°C, not applicable for automobile engines cause automobile engines produces more heat, and water boils at a higher temperature of 100°C, with coolant it can boil at a higher temperature. So not applicable for gasoline or diesel engines. But probably applicable for the cars engine electronics, but it is not worth it, the costs of the 3M Novec doesn't justify to have a much better engine electronic cooling. Maybe for racing applications, but as far as I know, no one in Formula One uses this cooling for their electronics. As for electric vehicles, again it's the cost, it doesn't justify to have better cooling for the electronic inverters and other electronics of an electric car. It also is pointless to use as a cooling liquid for some electric cars that uses liquid cooled battery, cause it has a very low boiling point.
xXBiffBoffXx almost. This particular liquid does not stick to anything. Cloth material can be saturated and when removed it dries instantly. Pc parts retain any liquid
I have a question maybe a noob question. If this dielectric liquid turns into steam that is basically water, how is it possible that it does not mix with the special liquid?
@@gawhyrghun1913 That's why I wrote maybe is a noob question.. but my question is valid because if the system is open to air it can be condensation but if is full sealed then there is no problem..
@@gawhyrghun1913 I know what he means, it seems like water until you listen to the video.. still I am thinking how the hell do they have a 0 ohm liquid especially with components as sensitive as a motherboard.
It's not revolutionary, sure it's cooled by a non conductive/corrosive liquid but this is done by many other people the only difference is what type of liquid is used (non conductive/corrosive liquids).
I wonder how much weight does this generate? Water of course is impractical not only because it needs to be highly purely distilled. But because of it's weight distribution. This to me would be a great alternative for not only large data center applications. But imagine you could utilize this for deep space missions. If it doesn't require a lot of maintenance and swapping out of fluid than damn sign me up. Actually I'd be curious what kind of corrosive properties this has and how it compares to let's say Floridant FC-72 coolant. Eliminating the need for heat exchangers among other things would be a huge advantage. Gigabyte might have something more here than even they realize. :b
Convection and natural circulation like this only works in gravity. Without gravity you might get evaporation but there is no condensation dripping back down inside the cabinet. You would need some way to deliver the condensate back into the fluid volume. But convection itself would probably slow to a standstill in zero gravity, so the cooling will be much less efficient. In these cases you would instead have the cooled volume entirely filled with fluid, and the fluid would then be pumped through an expansion valve. This forces vapourisation and the heat is released for dissipation. Basically a fridge. The safety critical component in that case then becomes the pump.
Hi Gigabyte. Do you have some extra graphics card? I only have gt 430 GC with H61-M motherboard.Can I have one. Even if its not latest and even if its a used graphics card. It is fine. I will be very happy for it. I love to play games on my computer but newer games and awesome games cannot be played on my set up. Hope you can read this. Thank you for the information about new gadgets of yours. I really wish I have one. I learned a lot from you all.
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When you guys doing a prebuilt gaming pc like this?
This is revolutionary! Well done Gigabyte ! You just made the most logical upgrade to servers ever... Its only a matter of time before all data centers around the world adopt this technology...
And then everything is just in a big weird aquarium ? Seems like it needs more space than what we have already. I honestly dont get this stuff lol
I hope somebody at Gigabyte will read this: Please create the z390 Waterforce motherboard again, and this time include the RAM to be water cooled also! So much work you guys put into the z390 Waterforce, and yet it would have been so effortless to design the RAM being water cooled also. I almost could not believe you guys skipped the RAM. Now your competitors are selling water cooling for RAM, yet you could have solved this easily, and sold us the complete cooling at once. I think this is very reasonable ask since you guys put the price of z390 Waterforce very high. OK :)
Best thing is, it cleans itself! Well, it's also hermetically sealed, but that's even better!
This is really amazing technology, Microsoft just launched a new set of servers using a similar design. Awesome to see this technology finally coming to the enterprise market
I would like to see the temperature gauge while it performs
it depends on the boiling point, many 3M Novec have boiling point of 49degC (649, 1230), while 7100 is 61degC, so it will be around that point max.
It would have made sense as this is cooling (thermal transfer) product. Temperatures for chips being cooled on screen and thermal camera pointed to the tank :D
I clicked this in hopes of seeing the reservoir server pump that you showed next to your product 2:45 , what are they actually called? And where can i get one?
Personally this is a great idea and something I've been all about since like 2k. You guy should be working on combining this setup with a 400w+ phase change compressor for below 0C novec cooling.
this is not heat pump, basically just a big vapour chamber for whole system, there is no compressor involved (no moving part) but you still need condenser to cool the vapour to let it become liquid again. furthermore the chamber itself must be tightly sealed otherwise it will be released to the atmosphere.
@@katt2002 Yes I fully understand how novec cooling works. I was making a suggestion for taking the temps to near or subzero range. The biggest drawback with novec is the evaporation rate and cost of the novec. Last I checked it was still in the range of $500 per gallon. Yep novec hfe 7200 $520.20 for 1gal. Price hasn't changed in damn near 20 yrs.
Finally some tech that will change computing again, Moore's law is undefeated.
This is old
@@NoOpticsPredator You say it is old, but until I see computers with this liquid being sold at retailers nationwide, logic dictates that it is still in the beginning of it's product life cycle, because it has not yet reached mass distribution.
this is so well explained, I learned a lot, thank you very much !!
Hopefully by the time I build my next PC, there will be a consumer case for this.
Very interesting. The units appear to be vertical. A 2U server tray is 4 inches tall (I believe the standard size for a unit is 2 inches tall). Are you shifting the way boards and cards are mounted? What is the 3M Novek engineered liquid?
You are using a sealed tank for keeping it in such that it condenses which makes sense but what happens if the tank were opened for maintenance and there is a high vapor density? Is the 3M Novek safe to breath or are respirators required?
Forgive a moment of tree hugging but I do worry about that, what is the toxicity from an environmental stand point? How must the liquid be disposed of in the event of a spill or in the future an even better cooling solution is developed or better liquid?
How is the heat from the condensers removed? Does it just blow out? I believe I saw something about specs for your system included a 2200W power supply. That if fully utilized will generate 7500 BTU/hour of heat. The components will not bothered as the boiling and condensing (so you do not super-heat like a pressure cooker does with increasing pressure raising boiling point) but that heat must go someplace? Where does it go?
I am very interested in the subject and find the technology as one that I am interested in. I just have these questions before going further.
whao... water cooling at its best. This fixes all the heat problems. Have you done an all year run in this water cooling system? I looks beautiful
Wonder what happened to this company Engineered Fluids that manufactured the fully immersive dielectric coolant solution.
When I just thinking about, I never had a problem with any kind of hardware from Gigabyte. Even after decades of using it...
If this the novec liquid then the comments about replacing parts being a mess would not be correct as this liquid is not sticky and it dries extremely quickly (in about 20 seconds ) , unlike mineral oil it can disposed easily and it won't take more space then existing server rack solutions
Are there any parts that can't endur immersion? Does cavitation cause any problems?
I'd love to see this in your waterforce series motherboards.
This is literally the future
No . lol
Immersion cooling is so... cool!
this is quite amazing
Gigabyte 5700xt is used in liquid??
Are the whole.pcbs and components immersed?
Yes
Can i get this for my miner of 2250 watt power consumption or is it not made for this power?
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So the liquid evaporates? Does this mean that you have to fill with M3 from time to time?
No its a closed system
What about this technology in automobiles where engines are cooled using this technology..
Not applicable for automobiles, for ones using traditional internal combustion engines. Most automobile engines nowadays are liquid cooled, and the liquid it uses is either water or a mix of 50:50 water and coolant. This 3M Novec has a boiling temperature of 49°C or the other version of it boils at 70°C, not applicable for automobile engines cause automobile engines produces more heat, and water boils at a higher temperature of 100°C, with coolant it can boil at a higher temperature. So not applicable for gasoline or diesel engines. But probably applicable for the cars engine electronics, but it is not worth it, the costs of the 3M Novec doesn't justify to have a much better engine electronic cooling. Maybe for racing applications, but as far as I know, no one in Formula One uses this cooling for their electronics. As for electric vehicles, again it's the cost, it doesn't justify to have better cooling for the electronic inverters and other electronics of an electric car. It also is pointless to use as a cooling liquid for some electric cars that uses liquid cooled battery, cause it has a very low boiling point.
Is 1 phase Oil not good enogh? I just got 40l electrocool ec-100.
We use one-phase oil. Here's a video for your reference th-cam.com/video/PByu8PVD6S0/w-d-xo.html
So what cools the condenser. How is the system on power consumption?
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love it!
что за жидкость такая которая не проводит ток?
Love it :P Giga 4 ever :D
Immersion cooling is cool. but if you have to swap components, it's a horrible mess
xXBiffBoffXx almost. This particular liquid does not stick to anything. Cloth material can be saturated and when removed it dries instantly. Pc parts retain any liquid
Everything is fine but how much this cost??
3M Novec 7000 is $399.99/gallon.
Harbinger how long does it work?
That's what I am looking for . The heat from CPU and GPU makes me hate the computers
Hi, we are manufacturing and selling immersion liquid cooling box. Here's a video for your reference th-cam.com/video/PByu8PVD6S0/w-d-xo.html
Is this available for sale now?
Hi, we are manufacturing and selling immersion liquid cooling box. Here's a video for your reference th-cam.com/video/PByu8PVD6S0/w-d-xo.html
Wow, that is great.
Seems like my comment was removed since I posted about someone using this approach since a while now... WOW :O
Or did I fail and there are several videos or I muss my old comment? xD (this can happen lol)
I have a question maybe a noob question. If this dielectric liquid turns into steam that is basically water, how is it possible that it does not mix with the special liquid?
Since when did vaporized dielectric liquid became steam water?
@@gawhyrghun1913 That's why I wrote maybe is a noob question.. but my question is valid because if the system is open to air it can be condensation but if is full sealed then there is no problem..
@@carlosmachado4792 In literally every source about this type of cooling they state it's sealed environment, therefore question is invalid.
@@gawhyrghun1913 I know what he means, it seems like water until you listen to the video.. still I am thinking how the hell do they have a 0 ohm liquid especially with components as sensitive as a motherboard.
@@dean6125
is valid because I am free to ask that's it..
whether you like it or not
It's not revolutionary, sure it's cooled by a non conductive/corrosive liquid but this is done by many other people the only difference is what type of liquid is used (non conductive/corrosive liquids).
When can I buy one?
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Hi, I´m interested on having a demo like that in our facilities, could you contact me please?
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How toxic if at all is the "water"?
i dont think this is water
it's mineral oil.
@@kryptotechz its not mineral oil. its 3m novec
Just think of it as a coolant for your car it's not 100% water
Is that prototype?
Hi, we are manufacturing and selling immersion liquid cooling box. Here's a video for your reference th-cam.com/video/PByu8PVD6S0/w-d-xo.html
I wonder how much weight does this generate? Water of course is impractical not only because it needs to be highly purely distilled.
But because of it's weight distribution. This to me would be a great alternative for not only large data center applications.
But imagine you could utilize this for deep space missions. If it doesn't require a lot of maintenance and swapping out of fluid than damn sign me up.
Actually I'd be curious what kind of corrosive properties this has and how it compares to let's say Floridant FC-72 coolant.
Eliminating the need for heat exchangers among other things would be a huge advantage. Gigabyte might have something more here than even they realize. :b
Convection and natural circulation like this only works in gravity. Without gravity you might get evaporation but there is no condensation dripping back down inside the cabinet. You would need some way to deliver the condensate back into the fluid volume. But convection itself would probably slow to a standstill in zero gravity, so the cooling will be much less efficient.
In these cases you would instead have the cooled volume entirely filled with fluid, and the fluid would then be pumped through an expansion valve. This forces vapourisation and the heat is released for dissipation. Basically a fridge. The safety critical component in that case then becomes the pump.
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Can i fry potatos with it?
I want one.
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Let's bring it for cars now
Well, rather than cooling down the liquid, reuse that Energy to heat building, water in cold country for example…
let me try that pc to play cat mario
Hi Gigabyte. Do you have some extra graphics card? I only have gt 430 GC with H61-M motherboard.Can I have one. Even if its not latest and even if its a used graphics card. It is fine. I will be very happy for it. I love to play games on my computer but newer games and awesome games cannot be played on my set up. Hope you can read this. Thank you for the information about new gadgets of yours. I really wish I have one. I learned a lot from you all.
This looks like a commercial product but would be afraid of it because of the stigma of water and electronic even though it's not water.
Don't give in to FEAR. That's how companies get to rip you off like Apple.
Novec by 3m is a dielectric liquid. Do some research about it.
3M NOVEC
The presenter guy should use a microphone. I don't understand why gigabyte making video so unprofessional.
My gigabyte 1070 card burn in warranty but company can't repair my card don't buy gigabyte
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1. I was writing a novel.
2. Lion-like face
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Those three are KORE
KORE is said to be them.
The power of KORE for the sacrifice of KORE (environment, culture, customs, nature, media, brain, heart, gender, LGBT, society, punishment, humans, races, animals, sacrifices related to them, KORE is a legend of sacrifice by them) Everyone has a lion in it.
KORE KORE KORE LEGEND LEGEND BECAUSE FACE LIKE A LION OK OK OK FACE LIKE A LION OK REAL KORE KORE KORE LEGEND 『These are people who have recovered from abnormal social persecution, so they are amazing, and for those who have died under social persecution, it is hope, and for those who have died in terrible circumstances, it is hope that people who have suffered the same terrible things are living happily.』 Partly because of the KORE KORE Legend Legend
China etc. Lion-like face NO NO NO NO but Japan different for KORE Because KORE is KORE legend Legend