Even more impressed since the guy on the right is French. You can tell by accent. French people don't usually speak English very well like the rest of Europe.
14:13 - Sounds good this little JTM20 but in composition to SV20… SV20 is the winner. I have all other 3 studio amps, but I guess this time I’ll pass this 20W. 😅
Well, the 1987 and 1959 „Plexi“ have a 4n7 bright cap, while the JTM had a 100pF bright cap. There’s a number of other design differences, but the bright cap alone makes 80% of the difference in my opinion. Put both into one Plexi-like design, and make them switchable, and you will be close to both worlds in one box. Still - nice one!
@@Nightryder7 what we can do is put the both caps on a push pull switch and pull it out to make the 100pf and push in for 4n7 I would have to refer to a tech to see if it's possible but I believe it is, if anyone wants to correct it, I would appreciate it
@@craigshewchuk9018I added a simple 3-way switch to mine, providing zero, 4n7 and 100pF. A very simple mod everyone can do (given you know how to deal with tube amps in a secure way).
When turned up all of the way, as I think they had in this comparison, the bright cap would not make much of a difference, if at all. The tonal effect of the bright cap rolls off as the volume is increased.
Well... If you want to use a 20W tube amp at home you might want to get a power attenuator. As you've seen in the video, this is really fast at (and over) 100dB. If you use a Two Notes Captor X between the head and the cab though, you're safe and you can actually turn the amp up. 👍 //Kris
The JTM (ST20) sounds pretty, but also restrained - even when it's at its limit. It definitely got that Fender Tweed thing going on - a great amp for e.g., a blues rock trio. However, with the Plexi (SV20) all that restraint is no longer there. It still has sweet cleans but there's more upper midrange and that creates a bite that the ST20 doesn't have. That's also why it'll be heard even in a crowded mix. The beauty of it is that this bite can be very carefully dosed by adjusting the bright channel with respect to the normal channel. The 3-band EQ and presence controls definitely do something but it's not too much - nice for fine-tuning, that's it.
Switching between these ones would pretty much be my ultimate amp setup ! Back when I had a Ceriatone JTM45, I was considering a 50w Plexi for that exact reason. And now I have a Studio Vintage. Hmmm...dangerous ideas !
Wet dry rig? I have one ready 2061x and a Fender DRRI. The new JTM might be a nice addition if I want to mix it up a bit. Tbh the Deluxe Reverb when cranked with the treble at 8 and the bass at 2,5 doesn't sound too far away from the JTM20..
110dB…..so not at all suitable for Home / Garden Room use? Gather 5W mode would be more practical from that perspective. Looking at small head and speaker options for Garden practice room. I want one. Just trying to work out how I can get the head and cab through the house without the Mrs Noticing! 😂
Hi Kris and Guillaume and thanks a lot for doing this one! You guys are always fun and your videos showcase the gear in a very meaningful context. And the playing is always a pleasure. Both the LP and strat sound really beautiful through the ST. Much more suitable for a strat bridge pup IMO. That said, the Plexi will always stay THE sound of rock'n'roll for me🤘 Cheers!
I actually consider JTM's to be in the plexi category. I have a JTM50 with the 'plexi' faceplate. Great cleans, can get almost as nasty as a 69' or even a 70's metal panel.
You can tell the difference easily . It’s always the same , jtm will always be more scooped and pleasant while plexi ish amps will be flatter sounding and more honky . I personally feel el34s kinda sound bland now. I used to think they were necessary for cut but some el 34 amps are muddy and some are just unpleasant . A little low end boom and top end lift is a better musical voicing to me . El34 amps in comparison sound a bit flat
Great video! Thanks!. It sounds awesome. This amp sounds like a JTM45, no doubt. Also remember the Vintage Modern models sound. GREAT! New Marshall amp release.
I wish Marshall would have stayed on the path of lower watt amps rather than building the line around 100 showcases. I've owned a lot of Marshalls and always thought the 50s sounded better. 100 watts is just way too much, especially considering how loud lower wattage Marshalls can be, never mind what you can do just by micing it. I've always loved the old JTMs and will certainly check this one out. Great pedal platform. I don't like high gain, multi gain stage amps anyways. I prefer a good single channel pedal platform with the right pedals.
Doesn't have to be an either or proposition They can do both like every other amp builder. They do have plenty of low watt options . All they need now is a 20 watt JVM and they wil have low options for all their staples . DSL Orgin Super lead JCM 800 Silver Jubilee JTM are all available in lower watt options.
plexis are basically the effe around and find out sound. definitely a harder amp to use and play. and mistakes cant be hidden. the plexi can be pulled back to sound a little more tame however, so it doesnt have to smack you in the face on every note that JTM 45 is way smoother and pleasant as a standalone sound. this comes from someone that has an SV20 and HW 1959 SLP
Really nice. Would like to hear it compared to the Sovtek Mig 50. Because, similar family tone. But with the Sovtek you get more clean headroom and power. But, you lose on the effects loop, don't have powers scaling or master volume, on a very loud amp, and is a bit more cheaply built. The Marhsall sounds like it has a more vintage character baked in. Very pleasant, but it's a character amp, where the Sovtek might be more of a neutral all-rounder? The fact that the Marshall doesn't have a master volume is no big deal, since you can control the volume, with a volume pedal at the end of the effects loop, before the return into the power amp. So, an effects loop on a no-master volume amp is a big plus point. Probably sells the JTM to me, since I have a VOX AC30 for squeekier clean cleans.
The Plexi is unique because it gives an ABUNDANCE of tone. Why is this important and different? It freaking allows you to run your guitar knobs at 5 instead of ten. Then you get leeeway on both sides of the knobs. Fwiw at volume the bright cap on plexi is fully engaged. If you run the amp at 8 loudness, jumpered then guitar volume at 3 or so and tone knob to your liking…you can get a lot of these incredible, controlled tones and then an instant BOOST for leads. This is why the SV20 is special. You can do so many things if you stop just thinking of everything at 10 or only using the amp volume. And if that’s not the ticket, throw the same tubes in as the ST20 since it’s cathode biased. Easy peasy That being said, I’d love to have the ST20 in a heartbeat and be able to jump between both the SV and ST
Purchased the Slamurai and ST20 based on this video. I tried a Mesa California Tweed back in June and it was HEAVENLY. After hearing videos comparing it to others, it sounded very thin…but the ST20 seems to blow it out of the water all around! Fender-esque cleans and British crunch! Exactly what I’m looking for! Thanks for making my decision easy!
Nothing mini about that amp. I just ordered one with the 2x12 cab earlier today. Just watching more videos now. Probably won't have it until October. Can't wait.
“Baby, I compare you to a kiss from an amp on the gray”. Noone has ever played that song so epic at 107db in an intro. god daaaamn. Edit: Jimi would be proud of you guys. May the gods of fuzz be with you.
I didn't buy the Amp and i don't plan on it but I did buy the 2 by 12 JTM studio cab . I love closed back 2 by 12 s and this one is loaded with 2 Cremaback Ms with is one of my favorite speakers so when I saw the JTM 2 by 12 had Creamback Ms I couldn't resist. I have a speaker/cab addiction
I would love to own the studio vintage studio classic and the JTM studio but they are much too loud for where I live . I had the studio jubilee but it was very easy to manage where it had a drive channel and a master volume so in 5 watt made I could get plenty of drive at low volume but I just didn't bond with the sound so I traded if for an explorer . The Studio vintage and JTM studio sound killer .
Damn it Marshall, I was always like I wish they did the JMT studio version. I literally ordered SV20 plexi from thomann and two days later they released this baby. This thing sound amazing, I wish this was released one week earlier :D
Warum steht auf Eurer Website beim JTM ST212 Cabinet "Lausprecherbestückung: 1x 12" Celestion G12M-65 Creamback"? Bei der Bezeichnung 212 denke ich eher an zwei 12-Zöller.
Hello this jewel is fantastic .... I bought one last week .... The sound is beautiful .... But the presence knob makes a bit of a noise like a breath .... Yours has this too problem?
I have the feeling you'll hear the mini JTM with our studio cabs soon. 😅 That being said, as far as I know this is the only Marshall cab with Creamback 65 speakers. I think this 212 has a really "honest" and balanced tone, especially compared to other, as you said distinctive sounding Marshall cabs. //Kris
"high hopes" means that you have to smoke a lot of quality weed to make these amps fulfill your hopes 😂🙏
I do that already. Problem solved
Thanks guys! 🤘
Thanks and congrats on this wonderful amp! 🙌 //Kris
Thanks to you @marshallamps… I believe the only amp missing is the jmp 2204 studio, the best Marshall ever made… please!!!!
Am I the only one impressed by how all these Germans speak English better than many English or American people.
Learn german!
That must be one reason the German BluGuitar Amp1 also sounds so similar to the British Marshall. 😊
Even more impressed since the guy on the right is French. You can tell by accent. French people don't usually speak English very well like the rest of Europe.
Not to mention Guillem is French and Krisz is Hungarian :D
Sounding great, guys! Good job.
Hey, long time no see! Thanks so much, mate! 🙌 //Kris
Am i the only one who thought the Plexi Sv20 sounded better?
14:13 - Sounds good this little JTM20 but in composition to SV20… SV20 is the winner.
I have all other 3 studio amps, but I guess this time I’ll pass this 20W. 😅
The ST sounds really great, more versatile, but SV is just more Rock'n'roll🤘
@@alanst.4417 It's like the difference between the SV and the SC, they all sound amazing but all have different tonal varieties.
the JTM will sit perfectly next to my SV20 🙌
Never been a huge Marshall guy, but that sounds STUPID AMAZING 🔥🔥
Same here, unfortunately it’s out of my price range
THIS is the Marshall amp I've been waiting for!
I am surprised by the difference in sound, both amplifiers are excellent👍, but the Plexi SV20 is a real rock machine.🤘
Well, the 1987 and 1959 „Plexi“ have a 4n7 bright cap, while the JTM had a 100pF bright cap. There’s a number of other design differences, but the bright cap alone makes 80% of the difference in my opinion. Put both into one Plexi-like design, and make them switchable, and you will be close to both worlds in one box. Still - nice one!
Good idea, I may try to figure out a way to do that with the sv20 instead of getting the st20 also
I wish you design the custom amps
@@Nightryder7 what we can do is put the both caps on a push pull switch and pull it out to make the 100pf and push in for 4n7
I would have to refer to a tech to see if it's possible but I believe it is, if anyone wants to correct it, I would appreciate it
@@craigshewchuk9018I added a simple 3-way switch to mine, providing zero, 4n7 and 100pF. A very simple mod everyone can do (given you know how to deal with tube amps in a secure way).
When turned up all of the way, as I think they had in this comparison, the bright cap would not make much of a difference, if at all. The tonal effect of the bright cap rolls off as the volume is increased.
comparison with sv20 was really useful
Looking forward for the combo demo!
I'd love to see a comparison between this one and a JTM 2245THW. Great demo btw.
I thought the sv20h sounded better in comparison. Would like to try them both sometime.
111 db spl with a little 20 watt amp…wow. And sounds beautiful.
Can you comment on how the Marshall ST20H compares to the Friedman Little Sister?
Have you tried the fx loop? I wonder what's the point of an effects loop if the distortion will happen at the power stage!!? Anyone?!
So this is perfect for my bedroom in my apartment with German neighbours, right?
Well... If you want to use a 20W tube amp at home you might want to get a power attenuator. As you've seen in the video, this is really fast at (and over) 100dB. If you use a Two Notes Captor X between the head and the cab though, you're safe and you can actually turn the amp up. 👍 //Kris
The JTM (ST20) sounds pretty, but also restrained - even when it's at its limit. It definitely got that Fender Tweed thing going on - a great amp for e.g., a blues rock trio. However, with the Plexi (SV20) all that restraint is no longer there. It still has sweet cleans but there's more upper midrange and that creates a bite that the ST20 doesn't have. That's also why it'll be heard even in a crowded mix. The beauty of it is that this bite can be very carefully dosed by adjusting the bright channel with respect to the normal channel. The 3-band EQ and presence controls definitely do something but it's not too much - nice for fine-tuning, that's it.
Does the Marshall cab SC112 sound the same as the SV112 using the same guitar head? Has anyone tried it?
a genius idea would be having a JTM as a clean channel and the Plexi as a gain channel :D
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? 😆 //Kris
Switching between these ones would pretty much be my ultimate amp setup ! Back when I had a Ceriatone JTM45, I was considering a 50w Plexi for that exact reason. And now I have a Studio Vintage. Hmmm...dangerous ideas !
Yea thats a $6000 idea.
I'm only half way there. Love my sv20h 2x12 It's a lil beast. This jtm is the mild version for sure
Wet dry rig? I have one ready 2061x and a Fender DRRI. The new JTM might be a nice addition if I want to mix it up a bit. Tbh the Deluxe Reverb when cranked with the treble at 8 and the bass at 2,5 doesn't sound too far away from the JTM20..
Pick up a used VintageModern a have your wish come through… 😊
110dB…..so not at all suitable for Home / Garden Room use? Gather 5W mode would be more practical from that perspective. Looking at small head and speaker options for Garden practice room. I want one. Just trying to work out how I can get the head and cab through the house without the Mrs Noticing! 😂
Can you define what you mean by "less pokey"? I'm not familiar with the term "pokey" as it might relate to an amps sound. Thanks!
Hi Kris and Guillaume and thanks a lot for doing this one! You guys are always fun and your videos showcase the gear in a very meaningful context. And the playing is always a pleasure. Both the LP and strat sound really beautiful through the ST. Much more suitable for a strat bridge pup IMO. That said, the Plexi will always stay THE sound of rock'n'roll for me🤘 Cheers!
I actually consider JTM's to be in the plexi category. I have a JTM50 with the 'plexi' faceplate. Great cleans, can get almost as nasty as a 69' or even a 70's metal panel.
Love both but I'm still smitten with the SV20H a little more. Just a preference to what I enjoy playing. The ST20H is still incredible
Looking for the new Marshall Group's take on a high-gain head now
You mean like a JVM MkII? That'd be really interesting indeed. //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses something like a JVM Studio, or a Vintage Modern reissue, the latter is something I'll genuinely buy
there will be thousands of demos soon but this one was GREAT!!
The SV20H is one of the best amps Marshall has made in a long time.
Shit. I absolutely love my sv20, but I’ll be lying if I didn’t say the st20 doesn’t sound better.
How can you tell from one little clip.. they didn't pull up the right settings on the sv20 they just used the same ones.
You can tell the difference easily . It’s always the same , jtm will always be more scooped and pleasant while plexi ish amps will be flatter sounding and more honky .
I personally feel el34s kinda sound bland now. I used to think they were necessary for cut but some el 34 amps are muddy and some are just unpleasant . A little low end boom and top end lift is a better musical voicing to me . El34 amps in comparison sound a bit flat
110 dB 😮 Watch your ears
do your ears hurt playing at 100+ db sitting that close to the cab?
Great video! Thanks!. It sounds awesome. This amp sounds like a JTM45, no doubt. Also remember the Vintage Modern models sound.
GREAT! New Marshall amp release.
Great demo, however please just play the amp. No pedals
Je préfère largement le sv20, celui ci je le trouve trop muddy, pas si terrible que ça..
The sounds of heaven !!
I wish Marshall would have stayed on the path of lower watt amps rather than building the line around 100 showcases. I've owned a lot of Marshalls and always thought the 50s sounded better. 100 watts is just way too much, especially considering how loud lower wattage Marshalls can be, never mind what you can do just by micing it. I've always loved the old JTMs and will certainly check this one out. Great pedal platform. I don't like high gain, multi gain stage amps anyways. I prefer a good single channel pedal platform with the right pedals.
Doesn't have to be an either or proposition They can do both like every other amp builder. They do have plenty of low watt options . All they need now is a 20 watt JVM and they wil have low options for all their staples . DSL Orgin Super lead JCM 800 Silver Jubilee JTM are all available in lower watt options.
Sounds just perfect with the Les Paul!
Was that kiss from a rose?
Great demo, very helpful. However I'm wondering what db range is when set to the 5watt option.
Its hella loud, even in 5 watt. You will definitely need hearing protection if you are in the same room
SV20 all the way.
I feel like if I owned an SV20 and just rolled my volume off a bit, I'd get a lot of the ST20 sounds
You wouldn't. I own an sv20h.
Great video! Seal texted me about y’all jamming to his tune and then ended up watching the whole video! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
plexis are basically the effe around and find out sound.
definitely a harder amp to use and play. and mistakes cant be hidden.
the plexi can be pulled back to sound a little more tame however, so it doesnt have to smack you in the face on every note
that JTM 45 is way smoother and pleasant as a standalone sound. this comes from someone that has an SV20 and HW 1959 SLP
Sounds awesome. Great demos, Kris and Guillaume, thank you for making my day
Really nice. Would like to hear it compared to the Sovtek Mig 50. Because, similar family tone. But with the Sovtek you get more clean headroom and power. But, you lose on the effects loop, don't have powers scaling or master volume, on a very loud amp, and is a bit more cheaply built. The Marhsall sounds like it has a more vintage character baked in. Very pleasant, but it's a character amp, where the Sovtek might be more of a neutral all-rounder? The fact that the Marshall doesn't have a master volume is no big deal, since you can control the volume, with a volume pedal at the end of the effects loop, before the return into the power amp. So, an effects loop on a no-master volume amp is a big plus point. Probably sells the JTM to me, since I have a VOX AC30 for squeekier clean cleans.
Prices came down considerably in the States even though it has been backordered, I'm waiting for mine.
It's the cabinet
This is a wonderful all around amp. It is not a metal machine, but for all other styles it fits the bill. This is a great Rock amp.
The Plexi is unique because it gives an ABUNDANCE of tone. Why is this important and different? It freaking allows you to run your guitar knobs at 5 instead of ten. Then you get leeeway on both sides of the knobs.
Fwiw at volume the bright cap on plexi is fully engaged. If you run the amp at 8 loudness, jumpered then guitar volume at 3 or so and tone knob to your liking…you can get a lot of these incredible, controlled tones and then an instant BOOST for leads. This is why the SV20 is special. You can do so many things if you stop just thinking of everything at 10 or only using the amp volume. And if that’s not the ticket, throw the same tubes in as the ST20 since it’s cathode biased. Easy peasy
That being said, I’d love to have the ST20 in a heartbeat and be able to jump between both the SV and ST
Amazing video, amazing tones out of it!
You guys nailed it! Amazing!
I'll have to collect all of the studio's "family" heads!
Marshall! What else...
Really like the way the SV20H sounds with the creamback loaded cab!
SV20H still the king, but only because I always prefer plexi 💪
Some Brits were using Hiwatts like Page Townsend Gilmour and the Guitar Payer from Jethro Tull . Iommi used Laney .
Amazing amp. I may have to get this set-up for my Grandson.
I have the SV20C and this is making me want the ST20C. I use my SV with fenders in stereo, and i bet it would sound pretty damn cool together
Purchased the Slamurai and ST20 based on this video. I tried a Mesa California Tweed back in June and it was HEAVENLY. After hearing videos comparing it to others, it sounded very thin…but the ST20 seems to blow it out of the water all around! Fender-esque cleans and British crunch! Exactly what I’m looking for! Thanks for making my decision easy!
Nothing mini about that amp. I just ordered one with the 2x12 cab earlier today. Just watching more videos now. Probably won't have it until October. Can't wait.
Really better than the origin 20 ? Same thing in Reality without the branding communication
“Baby, I compare you to a kiss from an amp on the gray”. Noone has ever played that song so epic at 107db in an intro. god daaaamn. Edit: Jimi would be proud of you guys. May the gods of fuzz be with you.
I didn't buy the Amp and i don't plan on it but I did buy the 2 by 12 JTM studio cab . I love closed back 2 by 12 s and this one is loaded with 2 Cremaback Ms with is one of my favorite speakers so when I saw the JTM 2 by 12 had Creamback Ms I couldn't resist. I have a speaker/cab addiction
Using a Boss GE7 expands this amps abilities beyond belief.
Love my code 100h. But now time to sell it. I have my sv20h, origin 50h. Now time to get the jtm studio
Can you play through the jtm combo and speaker extension at same time?
What a good video have a wonderful weekend also I cut my thumb when washing the dishes
I would love to own the studio vintage studio classic and the JTM studio but they are much too loud for where I live . I had the studio jubilee but it was very easy to manage where it had a drive channel and a master volume so in 5 watt made I could get plenty of drive at low volume but I just didn't bond with the sound so I traded if for an explorer . The Studio vintage and JTM studio sound killer .
Damn it Marshall, I was always like I wish they did the JMT studio version. I literally ordered SV20 plexi from thomann and two days later they released this baby. This thing sound amazing, I wish this was released one week earlier :D
I just paid mine off, I really want one of these now
Please, how is it compared to the Soldano SLO 30 !?
We can see the amp settings because of the way you lit the amp. Thank you.
Nice intro. Sounded a bit like "Kiss from a Rose"
That is a killer sounding les paul . Very clear very open and great low end and low mids . Very open sounding top end
Cool sounds - question: What mic did you use recording?
JTM with an FX loop, awesome. Great demo. Tak
oh man that looks like the Marshall for me! Great demo you guys are smiling like a couple kids playing that thing lol
... reasonable volumes... 110db 😄😄
Will you guys try the new Orange OR30 ?
I'd Buy both A -B it or Both on Stage !!love the sound of MARSHALL
The plexi is really harsh compared to the jtm
Warum steht auf Eurer Website beim JTM ST212 Cabinet "Lausprecherbestückung: 1x 12" Celestion G12M-65 Creamback"? Bei der Bezeichnung 212 denke ich eher an zwei 12-Zöller.
Kris,
You are just awesome on guitar 🎸. Gifted my friend
Hello this jewel is fantastic .... I bought one last week .... The sound is beautiful .... But the presence knob makes a bit of a noise like a breath .... Yours has this too problem?
It's the same with the SV20H, the prescence will always make a vintage-style marshall amp hiss a lot
Who can see the setting on those black knobs ?
1700 !!! Puke!!!!!!! My local guy build sane thing for 900. And did.
This is 850€, so cheaper than your 900€.
Shame you didn't use strat
Great demo. Thanks, guys.
ok where's the pretty girl?
Could you please do a side by side comparison against the EL34s version? Thank you in advance!
The studios are EL34's but lower power, and often fewer tubes, 2 in this case
Clean tones from the lo are top lvl
Nice amps but neither has a GZ34 Rectifier tube? They still sound great and look good.
Just what I was thinking and trying to search for. No tube rectifier? A shame as it was part of the JTM45
Thank you for sharing
Nice video! Off topic, but what manufacturer is this decibel meter from?
Darude sandstorm
Great, thanks for the test with the pedals! Exactly what I'm using Archer ikon into Toxic Twins and Golden Reverberator in the loop. Sound's so good!
Damn. You’re fabulous playing is really making me want this amp even more than I already did. Really enjoyable. Thanks.
We really appreciate that man, thank you! 🙏 //Kris
Kris youre a godlike guitarplayer hotdamn!
Aww man you're way too kind. I'm very far from that - luckily - because the goal of improving keeps me motivated. 😅 Have an awesome new year! //Kris
This is just that I want to see!!!👏👏👏
You guys KILLED that intro. Goosebumps from a youtube video is rare 😂
Wow, thanks so much Joe! //Kris
Anyone knows how to set volume level on this amp without master or volume knob on it? Only with an attenuator?
There are two channels and each one has a loudness knob.
New dream amp!
Beautiful! I'd love to hear this with the Harley Benton mixed speakers cab... Marshall cabs have such a distinctive voice, right?
I have the feeling you'll hear the mini JTM with our studio cabs soon. 😅 That being said, as far as I know this is the only Marshall cab with Creamback 65 speakers. I think this 212 has a really "honest" and balanced tone, especially compared to other, as you said distinctive sounding Marshall cabs. //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Great! That will pair great with the REVV.
Also, could you do a side by side of this head and the PRS HDRX 20?