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- We start the week off by taking a preban rifle import to the range. This rifle was manufactured in China under the Norinco brand name and sold in the USA by B-West in the mid 1980s. The select fire Type 56-II was one of the final military variants of the AK created in China, and semi-auto versions were sold here marked AKS and 56S-2.
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This Norinco is so beautiful. You can tell it's been well cared for. I was shocked to see it had a hidden cleaning compartment! Never would have guess that existed for a folding, non-solid metal stock. Kinda cool how it pops out almost in the shape of a pistol mag. Congrats on a great purchase!
that trap door cleaning kit is pretty cool, a lot of effort and a pretty complex stamping went into making that
Or as some reference the trap door in areas of the great appalachian mountains. My cousin's glory hole.
I had a polytech almost exactly like that. Beautiful gun, never could zero the sights.
Pleasant day too watch Chinese ak reviews by mishaco
I liked hearing how one of your viewers helped you get a ak you've been looking for. Congrats!
I’m the proud owner of a Norinco 56S-3. Great video!
In Yemen, this weapon has proven its efficiency, and it has become a competitor to the Russian weapon, especially as it is somewhat cheap
Yes, while the Type 56-II was of limited interest to the Chinese PLA, it prooved a popular export for Norinco, appearing all over the world.
These came in just before the 1996 Assault Rifle Ban sold with a bayonet, sling and two magazines. Because it was sold in the preban rush it was far too expensive for me. I have shot one since then, the side folding stock is far more comfortable than the traditional under folder. It’s quite a nice rifle.
'96 ban? Which country do you live in?
Misha sorry it was 1990 in NJ
@@revmarcell6449 It was 1989 in the entire USA....NJ is a part of the USA still right? lol
Misha Gov Jim Florio imposed the NJ assault.rifle ban during his first 100 days in office. The NRA screwed the NJ Sportsman’s Association by pulling all support for any Democrats after the Association backed Florio. He was pro gun NRA A- rated. He felt betrayed. We got screwed. So look to NJ for the first model of Assault Rifle Ban. And yes Misha NJ is part of the USA.Bill Clinton imposed the 1996 Assault Weapons Ban in 1996. It expired in 2006. It was a ridiculous law as was NJs ban which is still in effect.
@@revmarcell6449 The Federal AWB was from 1994 til 2004. It was not an executive order, but rather a small part of a much larger thing called the 'Crime Bill'. This was created by Congress and passed by both houses. Clinton was in favor of it to be sure, as were nearly all Republicans because it was 'tough on crime', providing strictor laws, longer jail terms for many crimes, and allowed for thousands of new LE officers to be hired across the nation. The AWB was nearly an after thought. Clinton signed that Bill into law, but it originated in Congress.
That was the first AK platform I had the honor of firing. I had the same trouble loading up magazines at 14 just trying to shoot again.Love your content
I just stumbled upon this channel a few days ago and i just discover better and better content every time i check on it. Such informative and detailed videos, keep it up and take care of yourself, these are tough times!
Aesthetics wise the type 56-2 is probably my favorite AK's next to a Yugo underfolder
I have a pre-ban Norinco Type 56S-1 underfolder all matching. Imported by NASI MIDLAND TX PRC 7.62 NORINCO. Triangle 66 marked 56S-1. The right lower edge of the receiver has CHINA lightly struck on it. Round enclosed front sight post and a threaded muzzle with a sugar-scoop brake. Has the cleaning rod and the bayonet lug. Receiver, dust cover, guide rod end piece, bolt carrier and bolt match.
Does it have the bayo lug under the FSB or gas block? My own Chicom UF is a 156S-1. I liked the caught in customs story + the price for it was very right, right around what a MAK90 was going for at the same time. So why not?
@@misha5670 The lug iis under the gas block. Right at the front of the gas block. Serial is in the 302xxx range. It has the holes in the gas tube. Dimples on either side of the mag well and and angled rear receiver. Bolt carrier and bolt are in the white. An early pre ban import i'm told.
Shout out to Jay for that more detail oriented camera work with this video! Please keep that up. You could really see more detail on the firearm in this one. Looks like a new camera as well. Video quality in this video really stood out to me for some reason.
Now if only the mic adaptor would finally come in.
Thanks! New camera, much clearer - I'm not always behind the camera on these but I can take credit on this one... I'm a bit worried about the stability while free-handing it though, as we did in this video. Still figuring out what works best, for us included.
@@jaysblades looks good from where I am sitting Jay
Man what a beautiful rifle, you can tell the folding stock mechanism is tight but butter smooth. That rifle you can tell is built to last, built like a tank. Thats a find of a lifetime Mishaco.
Beautiful rifle Misha and congrats on the acquisition!
I put about 250 rounds through my new SAM7SF this weekend. It ran great. I did enjoy the new FIME enhanced fire control group. I don’t have another Arsenal/FIME group trigger to compare it to, but I liked it. I forgot to wear gloves and moved my hand a little too forward which touched the hot metal hand-guard retainer / barrel... Won’t make that mistake again but no big deal.
The 'new' FIME FCG is really just the standard FCG that they put in all their guns now. It started with the VEPR FM series, then in the 107R, and now in the SAM7SF. Its a perfectly good FCG, I've even bought some and put them in some of my older guns like SGL31. But honestly? the original double hook milled FCG in the 2013 series of SAM7SF I do prefer.
I like the finger to trigger length of reach on the straighter FIME trigger. It needs polishing though, but once done should be decent.
I should have bought one many years ago when I had the chance. It would have been the only 7.62 ak Id have ever needed.
Just one is never enough ;P
@@misha5670 I’ll say, I’m on #2. Picked up a Romanian. 1st is yankee made (VSKA)
Makes me wonder; How many people will watch this and say "There's a cleaning kit in it!?!"
Guilty
@@firemasterx23 I was thinking (more) about the folks that have had one for thirty years.
I saw your comment and figured you were joking. I wouldn't have expected one to pop out like that.
@@timewave02012 I was surprised. I want one.
I'll check my local gs tomorrow. Its the K s (forgot) version. Looks really clean. 3 g's for ownership.
I’ve never had good luck with the stripper clip mad loaders.
Very cool video
type 56S-2 AK is very common in our country but this is most clean one i ever seeen
Very cool. Thanks Misha.
Nice magic trick making the cleaning kit appear.
I think i slightly startled Jay with it too lol.
@@misha5670 I was just going to respond and say it startled me...
Chinese AK's just have such a charm to them
One of the few things they did right.
@@OriginalBongoliath I like their food too.
Hello Misha :) Thank you very much indeed for this very informative review. I have the same Type 56-2 except it has black synthetic furniture and it is an airsoft gun! Everything down to the smallest detail matches the features on your rifle, including the hidden tool kit in the folding buttstock. It was once sold by the RealSword airsoft company which, according to what I have read here and there had close ties with Norinco. It is obvious to me that most of the outer parts of the AEG gun are "real" parts, but, as you certainly know much more than I do on the subject of Type 56 rifles, I would like your opinion on the black synthetic furniture, which doesn't seem to be very common on Type 56-2 side-folders: actually the only photo of a Type 56-2 rifle dressed in black I could find was a Norinco rifle shown at IDEX 2023 in Abu-Dhabi. Another detail I would like to mention is the bluing of the RealSword AEG, which is dark blue rather than the much lighter bluing usually encountered on Type-56 rifles. Regards from France! :)
One of the coolest variants imo...
This gun looks awful familiar. ;-) glad to see you received it
Yep, came in last week, so was put into the rotation for videoing and shooting right away. Its companion has its own video coming very soon also. And i did a little preview of it last week on my personal channel too.
@@misha5670 I agree it helped round out your pre ban collection. As I'm sure everyone can agree.. your information about a variety of aks has helped vastly. Glad I could return the favor in one form or another. I will check out the other video as well.
Very nice man I have a fixed spiker and double underfolder both Polytech but I've always wanted a 56-2 I passed one up for 1100 about 15 years ago and have never forgave myself for not buying it.
To be far, 15 years ago, $1.1k was a lot of coin for any AK. Still, don't blame you for regretting your decision not to get it. For me, i saw a Polytech Legend, as-new in box w/ everything in bags at a gunshow around the same time...maybe a year earlier? Anyhow, asking price was $900, which again seemed a little high for that time but still i wish I had just bought it or tried to talk the guy down to say $750? Oh well, so it goes.
My regret is letting my Chinese AK’s go years ago. I bought them when they were rather expensive at the time $800~ each. Oh well, that’s life!
The cleaning kit release mechanism was improved on the Type 81's side folding stock, which is otherwise basically identical to the one in your video. On the 81, you push into the base of the cleaning kit itself and it releases out. I'm sorry if I'm explaining this poorly, but it's very easy to do.
Cheers from Canada!
I have a Norinco 56-1 with a bayonet, wonderful gun. Fixed stock, but I like it
That's a beautiful gun!
I'm an Ak fanboy and this right here is the one! Nice pick up Misha!
You look great with the beard Misha! Thanks for sharing your new find with us. You and Jay always seem to have a good time at the range. Did you have a stripper clip in your sock?! That was a great exchange between you guys!!
As much fun as that was to watch, my biggest take-away was you got a new fridge!!!
Take care and keep up the great work.
Thanks but not a new fridge. Actually got it a year ago on Labor Day. For this Labor Day, got a new washing machine haha. Its just with COVID this year, the number of table talk videos has gone way down because haven't often had someone here to record for me.
@@misha5670 Understood, thanks for the reply. Wishing you and yours good health and continued success.
This one, and the polytech type 56 fixed stock spiker is probably my favorite Chinese AK, sadly they are too expensive too rare to find, or buy. I'm not in the AK market for collectable reasons, I run em, I shoot em, train with em.
Yo Misha! The top handguard is darker? Matching serials? Beautiful piece! Let me know if you ever sell it!
It's interesting that your stock does not lock in the closed position, I have to push the button to unfold my factory 386 polytech.
Your bakelite furniture is very bright red, almost orange. It looks very similar in color to the polytechs, but more marbled. Usually the norincos have a darker color. Yours looks fantastic.
However, I'd have someone you know verify that is not an East German upper handguard, it looks like one.
The video picture looks very nice, I can really see how nice that rifle is. Thanks for doing what you do!
Typically, DDR upper handguards were that brownish soft plastic material. Romania and Bulgaria were more into 'bakelite' upper HGs though.
Your pistol grip is definitely Norinco, I have a chocolate colored pistol grip, upper hand guard, lower handguard and the pistol grip that I have looks like a polytech style. And my upper handguard is not the same bakelite material as my lower handguard which I believe is East German, I am thinking it is Chinese along with the pistol grip but not the lower handguard which I believe is East German bakelite.
Most of the Norinco furniture I see is the orange and not the chocolate brown. But I agree with what you said about it not being chocolate brown bakelite.
I don't see an option to add a photo or I would include one
Misha has gone full Civil War Cavalry General with the beard. Just in time.
Hey, how did you know i did CW reinacting when I was a teenager? lol
More of an evil Spock look.
Another great video, Mishaco, thanks. Do you happen to have any import numbers on the Norinco or PolyTechs?
First to say thank you Misha for all you do!.. Almost forgot Jay, thank you as well 👍...
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Love me some norinco hystory.
Was it the indoor lighting or did the upper handguard look like an East German brown one? Or is that how the upper handguard looks on the Norinco version? I have only seen the poly-tech's before, so not sure.
Always enjoy breakfast with Misha and Jay. This was a great add to your collection. Love the cleaning kit feature and furniture. I think this is one of the nicest looking AK’s you have shared with us.
I had chicken & waffles for breakfast myself.
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Nice
Awesome rifle - I have the Polytech AKS with the Galil side folding stock. Love the trigger - very accurate rifle as well. Can’t wait to see your entire collection
And in case you didn't know, the old longer bayonets lock on to that.
I only have Chinese AK's favorite pair preban 84s and norinco BWK 92 full Zenitco both in 5.56 NATO
Nice Rifle
I love the smell of AK in the morning
It reminds me of victory.
Around here, we just call that smell bacon.
@@misha5670 that works
I want to comment on the sound it made, very forceful. Tight, good=:-)
I saw allot of these in Central African Republic. The FACA ( Forces Armee Central African) used them.
That folding stock is a beaut 😍
Its certainly unique, very Chinese and very '80s lol.
@@misha5670 Yep, and Nuke gang have in Robocop 2 this is gun
That upper handguard cover is 100% East German tho. However, that rifle is awesome!
Well, it would be weird if it were only 95% DDR right? lol
Misha did 2 tone hangaurds come like that from factory??
Hey MISHA! What do you think the Norinco 56s-1 is worth right now? The Sile NY. Blue barreled version. Just came across one and wanted to know. Thank you.
By the time I got extra pesos, gonna buy that one here in my country as my home defense weapon.
That upper hand guard looks very East German. Sorry if you cover this in the video lol I just started watching
Beautiful from where i can find it
can you mod these with other ak parts like from "sureshot armament" and others ?
Keep being you, you're living the dream
Better than the nightmare hehe
As always, excellent video. Beautiful rifle, cool hidden cleaning kit. The ammo pouches on the table are a nice touch. I like the fact that you actually shoot your toys also. Keep up the excellent work and keep the beard, you look like The Big Lebowski 👍
Why own something like this if you don't at least shoot it occasionally? Prob won't be one we take out often just because it shoots like any number of other AKs, but at least its good to know it does run just fine.
@@misha5670 exactly, I had a few firearms that I never fired, I just fondled them from time to time and that made me happy enough and then one day several but not all of them were stolen and that changed my way of thinking about several things not just guns. Life is short and you should enjoy it to the fullest. I say use them but not abuse them. Thank you for all the great videos you make. I usually learn something and always enjoy them. You have such an amazing collection and are very knowledgeable. Thanks brother
@Mishaco great vid, do you know anything about bake lite norinco AKs marked only with “ 56 “ followed by a really low serial number. I’m pretty sure it’s pre 1984 made. I have no info on specs if it’s milled or not etc. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
80-s, wonderful
I have a brand new norico type 56 s 1 in the box
mishaco what's a good price to pay for that some b-west?? on the market for one...
Do those venting holes in the gas tube make any difference when shooting? Most AK today don’t have those holes
Yea it keeps the barrel rise down...some norincos feel like shooting a 223.
Any chance of finding the mags/bayonet for sale at a reasonable price?
you look like the producer from Big Time Rush
Very cool. Oh by the way you mentioned that this particular model doesn't rust as easy as polytech offerings. Do you happen to know why this is? I've noticed it myself when comparing a mak90 to a nhm91. Edit. Sorry I missed the part where you mentioned it's a military type mat blueing. Thanks again.
Yep, i think its just because the Norincos have a less shiny finish, so it just doesn't show rust/pitting/prints as easily. I think the Polytechs were built more to look pretty than to be long-lived and military tough.
Real beauty 🤩
Man, Beautiful rifle! Im Jelly! I just got one of those loaders hahaha long as the clips are good its not too bad once you get used to it! Haha thanks for sharing you da man Misha!
That 2nd clip was really loose and one of the ends of the spring was basically collapsed I could have swapped it out, but thought it would be more entertaining for me to struggle on withh it? lol
mirror universe mishaco
Don't force me to put you in the agony booth.
My favorite Chinese variant! 👍🏻
we’re can I fine the barrel trunnion for that rifle, if not how I get the patterns for the barrel trunnion?
sgt_ malice Gun broker.
I'm in the UK. I've got a lousy pre95 deact version. But that's the best the my Government will allow me.....
This Weapon is ubiquitous in Sri Lanka. This one was extensively used by both beligerents during SriLankan ethnic civil war as their primary infantry weapon.
My White Whale became my Vepr12, after all the stupids got scared from seeing a starbucks on fire on tv, then rushing out to buy 12 guns a person and 1200 rounds for each.
Gun broker and arms list were nothing but scammers and ghosties, but I lucked out and found one on TGT for the same price I sold my old one for to cover some medical expenses. Finally got it back, and I'll cut my own pancreas out if it means I get to keep my Vepr.
Good choice, man. My father got one for my graduation back in 2015. Took it out when we went to the range and had me dumbfounded. Easily the best firearm I own, by the best arms factory in Russia.
@@Ethan-ph3nf It baffled me, those people who still didn't buy a VEPR12 even when the price dropped to $799.95...retail. Also when you could get OEM mags for $60 or so a pop, again retail. With imports, you just don't wait if you want it.
My VEPR-12 will be one of the last guns I part with. Best mag fed shotgun imho.
@@jaysblades Yeah. This will be the last one I own. I was lucky to have 3 in the span of 10 years. This being the last. I've had to sell them for different misfortunes or to settle debts, so it's a deep regret of mine.
They're selling for over 5k right now because people (including myself) are DUMB! Idc about Russian politics! They're guns and booze are the BEST!
I need this 1
I have one just like it, a lil more beat up ofcourse cause "chinese aks suck" according to previous owner. But this one strikes me as odd since it has a Norinco Mak-90 marker receiver. Is it maybe a parts kit put together on a Norinco receiver or is original?
I’ve got a Polytech BAKELIte Sidefolder.... love it!
KFS must have really liked the 56-II style as these are among the few Chinese AK variants where Polytechs are more common than Norincos. Usually the reverse is true. Then again, KFS managed to import a lotttt of guns for only doing it 4 or so years.
From Canada, i thought this style of stock is only for type 81
Nope, several AKs came in with it here and select fires were sold to militaries. Also kind of funny but China put this stock type on a series of air rifles back in the day too.
Misha interesting
Is the upper handgard orginnal or east german? Looks east german.
I had a Norinco side-fold just like that,but had to sell it,but I still have a dozen of the Norinco red Bakelite mags.
haha been there, sell the gun but keep some of the gear just because. Usually means that deep down I know I'll get another of the guns one day.
During the 1980s when China was in her most cash shortage and a very difficult decade, two saviors came to buy huge sums of weapons including these type56s submachine guns and ammo! Those exports relieved China from a economic crisis!
The two saviors were Saddam Hussein and Khomeini! They bought Norinco products for killing each other's soldiers in Iran Iraq war!
Its not a submachine gun it's an assault rifle.
@@TheMaciel89 I've read in numerous places that AK's were originally made to replace subguns, not the standard rifle.
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These Chinese barrels are not as good as Russian AK barrels. These barrels heat up pretty fast and decreases it's range unlike russian barrels which might take double the rounds to decrease it's range. So that is the myth about chinese ak here in Pakistan. What's your take on that?
Maybe if you put over 500 rounds... Normal range day,not at all
The Chinese export variants to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Vietnam, India, etc are all downgraded because Norinco and the state factories weren't subject to the same quality control when under foreign contracts. The only exceptions to this are US and rifles made for domestic users.
I really hope USA does import type 63 and 81 especially type 81 and they can keep type 97. I don't like it but I do want type 95 and 5.8mm round.
I doubt I will see new Chinese or russian firearm imports in my lifetime
I want a Type 97.
@@humansvd3269 Join the PLA?
@@misha5670 or go to Canada maybe.
I remember seeing this at a Cabelas
For 1.8k.....
Kinda wish I bought it when I saw it
@Jerrol Hale Cost on these back in the late '80s was around $250 for the folder, so retail in stores was between $300 and $350 typically. Just keep in mind, that was '80s dollars. Today? that's more like $750-$850. Still a good deal, but really about inline with the prices we see on current imports like WASR10 or ZPAP.
Where do you get your firearms from
The magic ditch.
@@misha5670 I get mine from "the gettin place."
Way to kill weeds at ten feet. I don't get the point.
Most of these are found in Africa
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Ak47 china
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That's the best ak47 ever designed one flaw is it should have been stainless steel