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  • Iman Amrani is back with Modern Masculinity, looking at the issues affecting men which relate to mental health in the shadow of Covid-19. In this episode, she returns to Leeds to speak to Neil Smedley, a barber who she met two years ago at a Jordan Peterson show, to find out how his business is coping with lockdown, what pressures his employees are facing and how they feel looking to the future.
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  • @theGuardian
    @theGuardian  3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Watch the extended interview with Neil here ► th-cam.com/video/j8cv0OYA88A/w-d-xo.html

  • @shia_labeouf
    @shia_labeouf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    Neil is incredible to watch. He's passionate, eloquent, he wears his heart on his sleeve, and he makes some really important points. I don't agree with him on everything but I really admire how he articulates himself. I hope he's doing ok through this second lockdown and his business bounces back. Please speak to him again when this is all over.
    Also Iman, as usual, asks sensible, judgement-free questions and lets people speak. This is an incredible series handled with care and respect to the nuance of the issues.

    • @douglascampbell4993
      @douglascampbell4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What points don’t you agree with? Just curious to know your point of view and what is different? How it ended up that way?

    • @MrSmurf459
      @MrSmurf459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@douglascampbell4993 I was gonna ask him the same question! Because, there is not one thing I disagreed with him about!

  • @emilyclarke8222
    @emilyclarke8222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    I think that toughness he means is resilience. Resilience to the hardest things that life throws at you and learning how to deal with them, and not making mountains out of molehills

    • @gabwaweru
      @gabwaweru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You put it best. We need resilience inculcated in culture. Life is inherently hard

    • @stephenconlon653
      @stephenconlon653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s an instinct to survive

    • @jagaroo
      @jagaroo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ask do thing

    • @B1ackmagic
      @B1ackmagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Brad Smith Exactly. Postmodernism seeks to make us all less resilient and less self reliant.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Faith is better than resilience
      When I had cancer and told I was gonna die I was resilient and it was easy. Certain breakups had me looking for faith because resilience turned into will to end it
      Crazy how it works

  • @jamesburt2542
    @jamesburt2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Thank you for continuing this series, couldn’t come at a better time

  • @EMKWANREVIEWS
    @EMKWANREVIEWS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Sheesh. This hit me hard. As a father dealing with questions from his young son about being a man.

    • @Gromkiii
      @Gromkiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And haha you watch Guardian for answers

    • @mmoaffiliates3191
      @mmoaffiliates3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only more men would at the very least play a role in their children's upbringing... Crying shame... Awesome report... Hope the guts, at koby survive this horrible mess 🙏🏿🙏🏿

    • @fredo69ification
      @fredo69ification 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't deserve to be a father.

    • @EMKWANREVIEWS
      @EMKWANREVIEWS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Al shut up fool

    • @fredo69ification
      @fredo69ification 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EMKWANREVIEWS Imagine not being able to teach your son how to be a man and being emotional about it.

  • @denrico777
    @denrico777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Right off the bat, the cycle of broken people creating broken people hits home. My son is 8. I very much feel what homeboy was sayin in the intro.

  • @Thirdfish
    @Thirdfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Great to see lads/men opening up and not holding back and bottling up their emotions.
    Too many are lost with nowhere to turn, no friends or family so they turn to darkness, alcohol, drugs and suicide.
    Thank you for these videos.

  • @MedlifeCrisis
    @MedlifeCrisis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Iman you are a fantastic journalist. I hope you keep making videos alongside writing.

  • @lukemadams
    @lukemadams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Glad this is back

  • @town_biznessman380
    @town_biznessman380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    When my ex and I decided to have children, I ended up being a stay-at-home father, due to her higher wage earnings. I was working swing and grave, and she was displeased with the minimal time shared, so I quit. Spending time raising my children was far more rewarding and fulfilling.

    • @alexk.7250
      @alexk.7250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Happy it's working out for you. Enjoy these times, they grow up fast

    • @legend1808
      @legend1808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you became a house husband or what did you do?

    • @adlsfreund
      @adlsfreund 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @The Hyperbole Not really.

    • @PsilentMusicUK
      @PsilentMusicUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @The Hyperbole Everyone scream in panic..

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @The Hyperbole I think I see what you're doing

  • @haroldgarner7140
    @haroldgarner7140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I feel for all the people who have slipped through the furlough cracks. I am blessed it didn’t happen to my family, but god knows how many people in the UK who have fallen on really hard times. Stay safe, sure but stay alive too.

    • @sayalime4620
      @sayalime4620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It happened to me, now I got nothing left.

    • @sarahroberts7374
      @sarahroberts7374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sayalime4620 Hope your ok mate

    • @hasinashraf4423
      @hasinashraf4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sayalime4620 i pray that you are ok

  • @marko.rankovic
    @marko.rankovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    There is a reason I at this point don't see myself having kids. I just don't know what their lives would be like, I can't guarantee them a quality life no matter what person I am. I can't guarantee them not experiencing the various types of abuses, or them getting addicted to drugs, mental health issues etc. I don't want to play this game of Russian roulette on behalf of someone that doesn't even exist. I wish people that were born all the best of luck, and if you enjoy your life great, but I don't want to bring someone into a life of ifs and maybes.

    • @MsChitterchat
      @MsChitterchat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You can’t let this stuff stop you from having children. Life is hard. There are no guarantees. But there is so much joy and meaning in having children.

    • @stever507
      @stever507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I’m so glad I never made the mistake of bringing kids into this world. With everything going on right now. If you could see what these globalists, elites have in store for us. Research Agenda 21, geoengineering, transhumanism, nanotechnology. Completely diabolical.

    • @stever507
      @stever507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @BARBAR BINKLE well then so be it. I’m the last one. What about those who can’t have children? Is their existence meaningless?

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Time to raise warriors.

    • @JLydecka
      @JLydecka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @BARBAR BINKLE Not if you have siblings who have children.

  • @jacksonxbarber3969
    @jacksonxbarber3969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    King koby looks after the family, he stands by us and we stand by him 👊🏾

  • @brynjoslin
    @brynjoslin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you for creating space for these much more nuanced conversations. Yes there are typically masculine behaviours that are toxic and unhelpful, but there are others that are helpful. Like Neil was saying we want to tell our young boys that it's okay to cry, but we also want to teach them emotional resilience and not let them be consumed by their emotions

    • @fran791
      @fran791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's toxic masculinity and there's positive masculinity, there's tyrannical leaders and there's positive leaders.
      Exact same with women, there's mean girls and loving girls, both are facets of femininity just one is negative and the other one is positive.
      We should strive to promote healthy attitudes among both genders

    • @fran791
      @fran791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Tyler Trobaugh don't speak on something that you've never even looked up on google. Just search examples of toxic masculinity and stop beeing oblivious. It's hurting men as much as women, it's something you should care about.
      Don't complain that activists don't care about male suicide rates when you disregard the cause of it wich is high expectations for men to be alpha and tough (aka toxic masculinity).

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All yall missed the point in the video smh

  • @dougsm7158
    @dougsm7158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was one of the realest things I ever watched. A lot of us men we are suffering in silence and don't really have someone to turn too. We are constantly living in emotional conflict of being a man.

  • @davetodream
    @davetodream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fantastic journalism. Thanks for shining light on what seems to be a large population of men in the UK struggling with these issues.

  • @Melissa-pk3wh
    @Melissa-pk3wh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The moment Neil feels the tears coming is so touching, I feel so much empathy for him at this point after binge watching the series! I had a very unexpected burst of emotion. Thanks Iman, this series is amazing!

  • @vladkrivoshchekov5662
    @vladkrivoshchekov5662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you so much for the series! I’m watching them from Russia, and still the videos are much relatable to my experience too.

  • @ek5273
    @ek5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Wow a series on masculinity that is nuanced and actually bothers to talk to men rather than shame them with feminist buzzwords like toxic masculinity.

    • @FortoFight
      @FortoFight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Toxic masculinity" doesn't mean that all masculinity is toxic. It's basically an umbrella term for the issues that arise when people make it their goal to always be the most "masculine". An example of toxic masculinity would be men feeling like they have to bottle their emotions up because it wouldn't be "masculine" to show vulnerability.

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FortoFight just stop bro

    • @FortoFight
      @FortoFight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@migueljuarez6788 Just explaining the concept. Sorry that you don't like it.

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FortoFight It isn't going to help anyone bro. Some women also don't like to show their emotions. Do they have toxic feminity?

  • @vineethsk
    @vineethsk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The contrast between pre covid life and post covid life is sharp :(

  • @azialifaziz6652
    @azialifaziz6652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    it would be good if you could get two different views of masculinity in a room together to talk about the differences in their view.

    • @KarlSnarks
      @KarlSnarks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great idea actually.

    • @canyizas1567
      @canyizas1567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Watch the debate Joe Rogan and Adam from buzzfeed had about this topic, I personally agree with Rogan but it's interesting to see how modern social movements perceive optimal masculinity to be like.

    • @jimmydane34
      @jimmydane34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@canyizas1567
      To be fair. Adam did spew some non sense in subjects he clearly didnt knoe enough information to make an informed opinion. His opinions were sincere so i he was being himself and honest. Like u i just didn't agree to his views.

    • @Cyphlix
      @Cyphlix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canyizas1567 yeah, but I cant takes someone who advocates chemically castrating children seriously

  • @lizprice8783
    @lizprice8783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I never thought about it before, but the only time I've seen my uncles cry was when their brother died. They've had plenty of things to cry about since, but they don't.
    I want to make sure the men in my life know they're allowed to be upset around me. It's not pretty but at least I would know they were ok.

  • @adambrowne4692
    @adambrowne4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't really understand myself in terms of whether I am masculine or not. I tend to understand myself using moral language, such as whether someone is good, meaning and likely to lead to a good life. Whether I am masculine seems irrelevant to the more important questions about how I should live my life.
    That said, I don't see myself as a particularly masculine man. I recall during high school people used to call me 'gay' in a way that was supposed to be degrading due to my lack of masculine qualities. Although that upset me during that time, it isn't something that bothers me in adulthood.
    I really think my way of understanding the world using moral language has brought more peace and happiness to my life. As a result, I feel more ready to consider reading philosophy, literature, religion or different cultures to find guidance in my life. These sources of guidance seem better than relying on the inherited concept of masculinity we receive from society, family and peers.
    Anyway, good video. It made me think about my experience with masculinity.

    • @shmackbunz1917
      @shmackbunz1917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im gonna guess you were raised (fortunately) in a rather sheltered environment, in a safe neighborhood where you were never exposed to the realities of surviving a hostile environment and competing for very limited resources. Would you agree? Im not insulting you for it at all, just pointing out that while you may have thought about "your experience" with masculinity, you need to understand how limited *your experience* likely is.

    • @adambrowne4692
      @adambrowne4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shmackbunz1917 Is there really any need to point that out? I was talking from my experience and not prescribing for the world.
      Yet, you emphasis that this is just my 'very limited' experience. So, you're not respecting my experience or ideas. You're saying my experiences come from a limited life where I haven't seen the 'real truth'.
      That is unless you'd say the same to everyone else commenting on this video, but I don't think you would, so that is why I am responding negatively to your comment.
      Also, I grew up in a working-class family with working-class culture, but we were able to live in a safer place than others who lived in Blackpool. There were struggles I faced, but I don't know if they are common or uncommon since people don't talk about it so much.
      So, perhaps, not what you expected? I wasn't drawn to philosophy because I'm from a middle class family, but because that was really the thing that seemed to provide my life with hope and meaning. My family is pretty cultureless. People live to work and expect others to do the same. This connects with alcoholism, not saying i love you to each other, unable to deal with emotional problems between each other and so on.
      That said, through philosophy and culture, I've been able to transcend these limitations and build a connection with my family in adulthood and resolve the problems with myself due to my upbringing.
      So, before you assume where i'm from and whether my experience is 'very limited' maybe ask.

  • @neil338
    @neil338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    This is incredible. Neil you’re a legend. Iman you’re a sensational journalist 💯👏🏻

  • @jamesmyers4691
    @jamesmyers4691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a breath of fresh air. Neil is profound. Thank you, from this lost 30-year-old. Every day is a new opportunity.

  • @tortoisegamer5804
    @tortoisegamer5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Great video. I can relate to the feeling of being lost at 30. Slowly trying to turn it around.

  • @LobsterFusion
    @LobsterFusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can’t say I can relate to much this much. The pandemic had pushed me down to part time hours. The amount of free time I gained to follow my passions was worth the loss of money. It really balanced out my life. Now that my job is going back to full time hours I find I’m now getting depressed. I’ve seen what it’s like working three days a week instead of five and I mourn the loss of my time. And suddenly the idea of working my life away until I die frightens me.

    • @LipSyncLover
      @LipSyncLover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's interesting but I doubt you're alone in that feeling

    • @g0tfrohwned
      @g0tfrohwned 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't you find a part-time position or ask to work part-time at your current job?

    • @LobsterFusion
      @LobsterFusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@g0tfrohwned That’s what I actually plan on doing. My current company won’t allow for part time but I’m thinking when things calm down with the pandemic I might look for part time work instead.

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      now imagine how it would be if you had NO JOB ...

  • @svetoslavchilingirov3858
    @svetoslavchilingirov3858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's an interview. Thank you

  • @Chrissepisje
    @Chrissepisje 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I watched this series with great interest. Particularly this one is grating. While I come from a working class background, I am intimately familiar with the Neil's notion that you have to make it happen yourself, if you want anything done. That said, it takes a village to raise a child. This may seem like a platitude, but it's significant. It's heartbreaking to see that people think that they've only themselves to fend for, when particularly in these times we're all dependent on the kindness of strangers, closeness to family and friends, and on governments doing what they are elected to do: Protect and enable their citizens. You can't go at it alone in this life. Masculinity also means realising you need help, support and interaction. Just like Neil is there for his son, folks need to be there for Neil. He wouldn't want his son to have to go at it alone either.
    Someone needs to maintain the playing field properly if you want to be able to play. And even then, your teammates need to pass you the ball if you want to drive it forward.

    • @imanamrani5959
      @imanamrani5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really recommend watching the extended cut in the description- I push him exactly that point

    • @MrChintaro
      @MrChintaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have hit the nail on the head and identified the main flaw with Jordan Peterson's lectures. We're social animals! Even more so than lobsters!! I guess we live in a society lol.

    • @MrToradragon
      @MrToradragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...e elected to do: Protect and enable their citizens
      That is best joke I have heard today. No, governments doesn't exist to protect you not to serve you, they are only tool of control and way how to get more power and more money.

  • @StephenAryan44
    @StephenAryan44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Internalising emotions instead of expressing them in a healthy fashion is taught and instilled right from the beginning, by society, by the media, by role models and primarily in the home. "Boys don't cry" "Don't be a girl" "Have some balls" "Man up" and so on. Just look at any toyshop and the gender split. Guns and tanks and soldiers and action figures with weapons vs maternal things with dolls, a girls line of Lego even, home bakery and kitchen sets vs mini black and decker workbenches for boys. I saw a bunch of those on sale in a supermarket this week - get your son a mini workshop or workbench! Being good with your hands and being able to make or repair something is amazing, but even the marketing for these is all focused around boys.
    Thousands of times these messages hit young boys and then impressionable young men and they become what they see around them. Closed off. Bottling up their emotions. Unable to cope. Don't see a way out. It's one of the reasons why suicide among young men is the biggest killer. Just like Neil said, the horrible cycle continues.
    Talking to young men about how they cope would be interesting to hear. How do they get rid of stress and anxiety in a healthy fashion? Who do they talk to? Is it other men and their friends? Is it their partner, and if not, why not?

    • @AdrianColley
      @AdrianColley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A girl's version of Lego? I'm baffled. Who thought that was necessary? I don't recall which Lego piece would only work with my kind of genitals.

    • @StephenAryan44
      @StephenAryan44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AdrianColley I believe it's called Lego Friends. Just look at the sets available compared to 'normal' Lego.

  • @markgatto5826
    @markgatto5826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for focusing on this topic, Iman. Neil is a very affecting screen presence and an important voice for this series.
    This series has understandably returned to the barber scene as a bastion of capitalist entrepreneurship and 'man culture'. Given the pandemic has illustrated the global dependence on the state, perhaps other workplaces where men work against stereotype, such as care homes, could be an interesting change of pace.
    I agree with other comments that there is a thread of stoic masculinity running through this video, which is not for everyone. I would appreciate hearing from other interpretations of masculinity related to the topic of mental health. One possibility could be new fathers who became parents during the pandemic who may have experienced alienation during the pregnancy and birth due to COVID restrictions on access for fathers. This may have been traumatic for a range of fathers, as well as their partners.
    Also, we haven't heard as much about gay masculinity or female masculinity. Both are important influences on our continuing construction of what masculinity means in a modern context.
    Thank you for continuing to shine a light on this topic in such a thoughtful and sensitive way. It is an excellent series!

  • @alancherian06
    @alancherian06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Love this series. I've got a suggestion, perhaps looking into male suicide as it is so prevalent and what actually causes it and maybe exploring differing perspectives on "toxic masculinity" and what everyone's definition of that is.

    • @AB-ou8ve
      @AB-ou8ve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Dicky Tricky
      You get it.

    • @PsilentMusicUK
      @PsilentMusicUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Dicky Tricky Toxic masculinity describes behaviors that stem from a twisted view of what it means to be a "man" (anger, aggressive tendencies, lack of emotion, etc). Traditional "masculine" traits are not under fire for being toxic. Toxic masculinity does far more damage to men than any tumblr pseudo-feminist ever could or will do.

    • @99RedRedfake
      @99RedRedfake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, successful male suicide is more prevalent but if you drop that down to suicide attempts, both genders are very similar with only a difference of around 3%, I believe, depending on the area of the world. The real question is why are men more successful in their suicide attempts?
      We have an answer to that: The means they use to attempt suicide. Men will more often use highly violent methods that tend to be more successful where women tend to use "softer" means like pills.
      It's all rather fascinating.

    • @fran791
      @fran791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PsilentMusicUK exactly, toxic masculinity hurts both men and women. All that women want is just sensitive loving men. Positive leaders that look after weaker individuals and lift each other up.
      Positive masculinity exists too.
      Just like toxic femininity exists = mean girls

    • @finding_aether
      @finding_aether 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PsilentMusicUK aka boys with mommy issues

  • @jesussaquin6266
    @jesussaquin6266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need these kind of friends, those that are grinding looking to be better men tomorrow.

  • @user-yc8xb2iz9w
    @user-yc8xb2iz9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iman never stop please! We will always remember you as the best journalist of this age, thank you so much for trying and succeeding!

  • @kamiltrzebiatowski9331
    @kamiltrzebiatowski9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A positively surprising programme, actual conversations with men. I do not normally expect these from The Guardian. Excellent non-condescending interviewer.

  • @OrphanSolid
    @OrphanSolid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Last Neil video was 2 years ago ? God, time goes by so fast!

  • @EnglishwithAndrew
    @EnglishwithAndrew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great video, happy to see Neil's return!

  • @praxis22
    @praxis22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd have to agree with the premise of the title. Even as a younger man I felt better when I had a paying job.

  • @katielee3320
    @katielee3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this... what a wonderful interview... all fathers should listen to what Neil has to say.... so much love, so much self reflection and you can just see the spiritual healing thats taking place within this man. So much love and light to him and his family. Very inspiring.
    Will definitely be sharing this with my husband.

  • @nickludlam
    @nickludlam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for revisiting this. These videos are unique in making me look deeply inward, and consider aspects of life that are uncomfortable, but incredibly important, and underpin more than you realise

  • @JimEldred
    @JimEldred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Your job is not you..........................

    • @chome4
      @chome4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. We define ourselves by what we do and what we can afford to buy/consume!

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      see what happens when you have NO JOB for an extended period of time ....

  • @Francis-of8cw
    @Francis-of8cw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing these series. There's a lot of women standing up for women, but not yet a lot of men standing up for men...

    • @davidbolha
      @davidbolha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're just chameleoning. Don't be fooled.

  • @johnrodgers2018
    @johnrodgers2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I injured my back and lost my job, my wife and I switched roles and I stayed at home while she went out to work. While I got on with what needed to be done and never complained I really hated it. I couldn't have been happier when I finally healed and was able to go to work.

  • @Matt-sc3qm
    @Matt-sc3qm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would be interested in the Guardian exploring Feminsm's lack of dialogue on positive masculinity. How it is that one of the most prominent social movements regarding true equality seems to have forgotten about half of their target market?

    • @joshevans2391
      @joshevans2391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Havent you heard? Feminism is about equality and equal opportunity for everyone, just not for men

    • @jeanpaulgartier3404
      @jeanpaulgartier3404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was never about equality

  • @FM-gu5kt
    @FM-gu5kt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Guardian talking about the same masculinity they have destroyed for two decades. Rich. Very rich.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Individual journalists have different opinions.

    • @davidbolha
      @davidbolha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as they sell news.

  • @MrChristiangraham
    @MrChristiangraham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Iman. Good to hear Neil et al are managing. Definitely a strong feeling of stoicism coming through there.

  • @1brenmaster
    @1brenmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neil is the embodiment of masculinity. Carries himself well, not afraid to express his opinions as he's clearly spent time understanding and underpinning them. Has developed emotional maturity and a confidence in himself and his abilities to not only enjoy good times but navigate the bad ones. The inner confidence shows through in his ability to show emotions talking about his son. You see strength of conviction not weakness. His son has won the lottery.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to hear some of the next gen share the same values of hard work I have. “No Princess coming to save us” Too right we have to be masters of our own destiny. My father bred toughness into me too and best gift he ever gave me.

  • @m.e.345
    @m.e.345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At the grocery store where I usually shop they have recently installed automated checkout scanners.. What a shame.
    Some of the employees are young.. probably their first job, there are older people who perhaps live alone, there is a girl with a physical disability, a fellow who I believe is autistic, perhaps single mothers, a native girl, new immigrants.. A job is not only a means for providing for ourselves and our families.. it gives a sense of purpose to our lives, it gives us a path to relationships, and it helps us to become a part of society.

    • @m.e.345
      @m.e.345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      P.S. ..when you buy from Amazon.. that smile on the box doesn't belong to a friend.. it belongs to a guy who's making Billions of dollars.

    • @jarel2539
      @jarel2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m.e.345 He's also employing tens of thousands of people (could be 100k+)

  • @andrewmoss6449
    @andrewmoss6449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really interesting interviews with Neil and the others. Iman did a great job as well.

  • @sarajamil2672
    @sarajamil2672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any job is better than no job. No job is too small, but peoples thinking is too narrow. If you had to live in a country where there is literally no financial support to the unemployed, then you realise this. When you have to eat, you'll do anything.

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this

  • @Curlzyness
    @Curlzyness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that Neil doesn't feel bad about crying on camera. If that shows something, it's definitely not weakness. It shows how much effort and love he's putting into making a good individual and member of society (his son).
    Thank you Neil for sharing your point of view on life with us, with no filters of what "moder" society expects you to say. That's life, it never gives you what you want to hear but what you HAVE to hear.
    Massive respect.
    And thank you Imani for the amazing job you're doing. It's refreshing to hear real conversations.

  • @qwanathomas735
    @qwanathomas735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Society tells you how you should be, don't listen, be how you want to be.

  • @sammierose1150
    @sammierose1150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think it’s awesome (and incredibly attractive) that Neil showed that it’s masculine to cry about things worth crying about - (family). It shows that a real man can have emotions and strength. 🤗

    • @novabossa84
      @novabossa84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I so agree!! To me there's nothing sexier in a man than toughness/resilience combined with feeling deeply for the things/people worthy to him and not being ashamed of it!

    • @luxolontamo4440
      @luxolontamo4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why are you so obsessed with men crying ?!

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luxolontamo4440 this

  • @kewalagrawal6539
    @kewalagrawal6539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One big reason people faced issue during Corona is very few people know the importance of savings. When people are earning they spend without thinking, no one is prepared for future. My dad lost his nicely running business in 2008, he is a frugal man and had considerable savings that is helping us till date. When I was kid, we siblings always called out our parents for being stingy, but it was my dad preparing for worse times

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wise father. I learned from my parents to have 6 months supply of savings for an emergency. Unfortunately, we are past 6 months. Unprecedented times.

  • @sundippatel1796
    @sundippatel1796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, powerful. Men everywhere are suffering the same, including myself .

  • @philsophkenny
    @philsophkenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Have you considered doing something on men with disablities?

  • @hereist4nd140
    @hereist4nd140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She makes such a great doc. Yeah it's whats been teached as a man i need to be a provider thats the role.

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a guy, its true. But i feel its not just any work, but meaningful work.

  • @violator2695
    @violator2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Jordan peterson covers alot of this in his lectures

    • @Ledhoven
      @Ledhoven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A proper “Top lobster”

    • @ohnome3154
      @ohnome3154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Latisha Queen if you can't see why it's the truth you're part of the problem

  • @jsmcr894
    @jsmcr894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got told I was mentally ill... In reality I just don't agree with life the way it is. I shouldn't have been pushed to take drugs thst wasn't going to help... Now I've ruined my life. Thanks mental health

  • @ollie3381
    @ollie3381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The world needs strong men who cry

    • @mikemcguinness1304
      @mikemcguinness1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh but women don't. They just say they do.

    • @joshevans2391
      @joshevans2391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, the crying is irrelevant

  • @benwinstanleymusic
    @benwinstanleymusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    we need more people like Neil in this world. Much love to everyone in the video and Iman and team, fantastic journalism

  • @draconianTL
    @draconianTL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great interviews conducted by the journalist.

  • @lawrenceslsko1391
    @lawrenceslsko1391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's the importance of both parents in the life of Children.

  • @WeConnectHumans
    @WeConnectHumans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This episode was amazing! Responsability is taking never giving! We are living Crazy Times and I just move from Portugal to UK to study English for three years and after back to Portugal and build my project there. Really love what Neil say at on point on this vídeo. We raise broke kids who Turn INTO broke adults and We never broke this cycle. Really love this. I had to repeat this and I alreary saved to re-whatch. More people need to see this and most important We need to have honest conversation about "how We spend our time." Here at home I have my cousins who spend alot of time playing on cumputer and he make sad because the more I talk they think I AM Boring. Really help full this One!
    And the lesson I can take from here is this: " Believe in yourself and create value for others" can be anything I AM good at and sell it! Dont wait for politic saved you 💯

  • @y2k704
    @y2k704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that was gold when you told Neil to take accountability for crying, excellent video and topic, great work 👏

  • @आदित्य-फ4प
    @आदित्य-फ4प 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can feel what he has been through. Thankyou The Guardian.

  • @lktasl999
    @lktasl999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great interview once again Thankyou. If you haven’t already heard of ‘Humen’ it could be worth checking out for your series. It’s a fairly recently created men’s group that discusses men’s mental health and we meet weekly on zoom (will be in person again after covid)

  • @themdmisthemtrx
    @themdmisthemtrx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see this series back on the tube! 💪🏾

  • @karke2008
    @karke2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. this hit hard, being young father constantly trying to be a ideal or perfect father and failing often.

  • @1anre
    @1anre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This Modern Masculinity series is gold. The Guardian, una get sense.

  • @b00ksh3
    @b00ksh3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel like on a deeper level i wouldn't agree with neil on most things but. He is a valid dude

    • @LupusMechanicus
      @LupusMechanicus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Low T, get it checked

    • @Cyphlix
      @Cyphlix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad your here to validate dudes. What would we do without you.

  • @douglascampbell4993
    @douglascampbell4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man.. “I don’t want my son to be a lost 30 year old like I was..” 😳
    Make him tough enough to take on the world man, but make sure he knows he is allowed to be upset, allowed to feel beaten at times and grieve failure.
    before he gets back up, before that toughness you’ve taught him to be makes him stand back up and try again, he is allowed to express his frustration, sadness, rejection, failure, whatever he is feeling, make sure he knows he is allowed to and he needs to get that out of his system so it doesn’t eat him up!
    And you’ll have brought up an emotionally intelligent man that has all the tools he’ll need to chase success and abundance in his life!

  • @LipSyncLover
    @LipSyncLover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like this series because for once it's not hating men or anti men

    • @pagethreemodel
      @pagethreemodel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'aNtI MeN' she says...while femicide is a dire issue in this country and world wide. 🙄🙄

    • @LipSyncLover
      @LipSyncLover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Femicide!? Is that female suicide or women killing men? Either way its not related to my comment. This video was not anti men. Which was nice

  • @popcornken1505
    @popcornken1505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rule #1 Keep a good clean record from a teen to a adult. Don’t hangout with trouble
    Rule #2 Don’t get tattoos. Tattoos can hold you back. A short term decision can destroy future opportunities.
    Rule #3 Get a haircut. Appearance is universal.
    Rule #4 workout
    Rule #5 Make stacks 💵
    Being a man is simple

    • @takumeme545
      @takumeme545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is far from simple. Sorry you've been so sheltered that you can't see that.

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea you definitely are still in secondary school writing this silly BS

  • @obadaodeh1625
    @obadaodeh1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As we move forward in life, obtaining financial-stability is becoming way more difficult than what it used to be 20 years ago.

    • @r3dp1ll
      @r3dp1ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fully agree. Nothing is stable now. The real culprit is our economic system. Everything is being destroyed under our eyes.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      World Economic Forum- Klaus Schwab- it’s pretty clear what the future is planned to be.

  • @gaz9957
    @gaz9957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome, so glad this series is back again and it definitely couldn't have come at a more relevant time. I think I'd be interested to see you look in to how mens desire to succeed and prosper within the workplace affects their mental health as well as their life generally.
    Also, to all you guys out there, the vaccine is on the way and we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Stay strong, but reach out for help (or even just a chat) if you need to.

  • @TM-rk5dj
    @TM-rk5dj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect. The government should support these people properly.

  • @lifeisclimbing
    @lifeisclimbing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love so much this series. Sometimes it feel as man there's no winning when it comes to feeling satisfied with yourself

  • @Karmaofiis
    @Karmaofiis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this series, and I feel it's even more important for me now that I gave birth to my son. Can't wait for the next episode!

  • @The_Bashar
    @The_Bashar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imani's laugh is infectious!!!
    Incisive and illuminating conversations.
    Ahsante.

  • @DennisNowland
    @DennisNowland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worked all my life taking care of people less fortunate than myself. Reared four daughters who are all doing well and contributing to society. Paid a lot into my pension all my working life. Happily retired and enjoying every minute of my well earned leisure time. Work? It's a certainly not an unmet need in my book. I don't even think about it.

  • @ythelldoineedahandle
    @ythelldoineedahandle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I understand that this excerpt is specifically about males but these men and boys act like it is not the same for women. If we do not work, everyone looks down at us too (in my experience).

  • @echoone1972
    @echoone1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I consider myself an emotionally strong minded person, so very rarely am I touched watching an informative story on youtube. I just welled up watching Neil and hearing the love he has for his son. Only a real man has those emotions for his family, friends and in Neil's case his genuine concern for his employees. It's nice to see a real human being once in a while. All the best mate.

    • @imanamrani5959
      @imanamrani5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm really glad it resonated. Neil talks further and deeper in the extended interview which is unlisted (meaning you can't search for it but the link is in the description) I really recommend it...have a nice day x

  • @gustavon.1444
    @gustavon.1444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just remember, " don't cry in front of the Mexicans" - Brad Pitt

  • @michellekaiser5907
    @michellekaiser5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really grateful you guys are doing this series. I don't feel like anyone else is really looking at how men are coping in the modern era (let alone coronavirus).
    Edit: I'd like to hear about how men are still getting together. Online groups? Online games? Men don't seem to reach out as much, so I guess I want to know who's finding success with that.

    • @twilightknight2333
      @twilightknight2333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Video games and internet forums, which is pretty pathetic and negative to our masculinity.

  • @Frunk222
    @Frunk222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is exactly what I had hoped to find in feminism when it had its big wave in 2013-2016 but instead found a very patronizing attitude towards men. These pieces have been truly very well done and explore some of the issues that were brought up but the tone is much better and I don't feel tons of agenda being pushed by the narrative at all. True journalism, thank you for these pieces.

  • @se7encureton
    @se7encureton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Keep pushing forward. Always known your a good person and don’t stop.

  • @DS-rd9qn
    @DS-rd9qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wooo! I was literally wondering yesterday if she was gunna do more of these. Iman Amrani is awesome.

  • @hassanulkarim1755
    @hassanulkarim1755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This hits home . Our anxity and social pressure are pushing some of us men to the brink.

  • @ollie3381
    @ollie3381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "You've just got to grit your teeth and push through" The haters will call that "toxic masculinity". I call that courage

  • @mat_j
    @mat_j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    capitalism working as intended...

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Locking down the economy to "save the NHS" is capitalism?

    • @adambrowne4692
      @adambrowne4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What do you mean?

    • @signsofthetimes886
      @signsofthetimes886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You dont even know what you're saying... please explain yourself.

    • @y2k704
      @y2k704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he means the elites and corporations are getting wealthier while the the rest of us suffer, perhaps he was referring crony capitalism

    • @mat_j
      @mat_j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@y2k704 no such thing as crony capitalism. Capitalism is a unscientific, dogmatic, self contradictory and outdated model and it's working as intended...

  • @आदित्य-फ4प
    @आदित्य-फ4प 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Family to school to college we are taught to respect emotions, that it is fine to cry, that gender is a social construct etc. The moment a man (biologically male, socially man) starts moving on path of being a better human, a human who undergoes every emotion, and when life breaks down that hu-man, the first people to run away are same who taught that gender is just social. The same people then put us back into structure of patriarchy, be a man, stop crying, be tough, etc. You are not manly enough. There is this big crisis in mind that what just happened. After all this, it is better to be very tough, rough and masculine because when life hits, nobody will be there. Only you and your will. No social construct theorist, none. Rather I saw how same theorist used patriarchy to further shatter my core.

  • @prophet_jonny
    @prophet_jonny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou Iman and thankyou Neil. This is passionately made, important content

    • @imanamrani5959
      @imanamrani5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jonathan, your support is appreciated x

  • @clintondeabreu8565
    @clintondeabreu8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was the mention of male conditioning, but the female expectation has a lot to do with it, when one goes into the dating scene, there is an expectation of you as a provider, the questions you get, is the job you do, do you own your house, what car you drive? Etc

    • @jeanpaulgartier3404
      @jeanpaulgartier3404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These days one must state the obvious

    • @MrToradragon
      @MrToradragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why you would go to dating scene? Whenever I get those strange ideas about dating, I just look around and say "I really like my simple uncomplicated life. I don't want to lose it." And just continue as before. And so does plenty of my friends. Why would one like to lose their peace and freedom?

    • @zuzanazuscinova5209
      @zuzanazuscinova5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. The same pressure is put on women in terms of looks and youth.

  • @helenamoniqueclarke8135
    @helenamoniqueclarke8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discipline. Direction. Goals. Consistency. Motivation...all key to progress and success. Lovely guys. ♥️🇬🇧

  • @rumptis7018
    @rumptis7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’m happy that society’s pressures on men are finally being noticed seriously

    • @rumptis7018
      @rumptis7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DdraigGoch84 ............ yeah? ok.????

  • @douglascampbell4993
    @douglascampbell4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The guy that says “men don’t have to men all the time, and they can open up and stuff,” but then it’s deep ingrained in us that we aren’t meant to and don’t allow ourselves to...
    I felt that...

  • @Brandon-w3o
    @Brandon-w3o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this great video and an amazing series!!