From what I read online, the factory that manufactures the original R36S is not the one manufacturing the fake one. They claim that they are trying their best to stop it but there isn’t really anything they can do with the project being an open source device. What I don’t like is that this other factory is copying the body of the R36S but the internal parts are from the Kinhank K36 and that is why you can install the CFW that works on the K36 on the fake unit and not ArkOS. If you try to install ArkOS on the fake device, the device will freeze and for some reason when you reinsert the original card that comes on the fake unit, it won’t boot right away. You have to start the system several times before it boots again which leads me to believe that some part of the OS is installed directly to the unit and not all on the SD card.
I was under the impression that the R36S might have different manufacturers and distributors, like a truly open-source handheld or a blueprint. They're pretty much the definition of a "generic brand" emulation handheld, in contrast with "branded" ones from Miyoo, Anbernic, Retroid, or even Powkiddy... so I don't know if it's technically possible for knockoffs to exist. Different standards of quality control would also make a lot of sense if there are different factories producing these.
@@randomname_tqrk I totally agree with that’s why I have always been hesitant to call the other devices clones but everybody calls them like that so you might say I’m just appealing to the masses. Lol!
@@xGusth I understand completely what you are saying. The R36S is a copy of the RG353V and also a copy of the RGB20. But the reason why people call the new devices “clones” is because the clones are exactly 1:1 copies. The only thing that sets them apart is the operating system they are using and some parts that differ from the ones on the original R36S. If you place an R36S next to an RG353V or an RGB20 they don’t look exactly identical. The two on my video do. But I understand completely what you are saying. Another user also brought up the fact that this device is based on open source so anybody could make a copy with whatever operating system they choose. When you visit a store in AliExpress and they offer this device, they are not specifically telling you that it runs on ArkOS. They mention a “Linux” system which it’s true for both ArkOS and EmuELEC. So what I would recommend is to send the seller a question asking which version they are selling. I decided to keep both because they perform pretty much the same way when it comes to just playing games.
Mines a clone however it’s the best clone ever and I got it off Temu lol. I can do everything I should be able to with it and can change themes and all that fancy jazz
I just got the clone one lol, i didnt even know there were fake ones... But besides the system being a little worse it appears to run the games well, actually i saw some reviews saying the r36s couldnt run ps1 and psp games and they are working super fine on mine (clone)... I guess they have the same "power" but the OS of the clone is worse... You could do a video recording both playing the same games and the fps each one gets, would be fun to watch
That’s a really good idea. But PS1 games run perfectly well on the R36S. PSP games are the ones that lag like crazy. You can’t play Saturn games either on the R36S. What I noticed is that both devices have same capabilities when it comes to running games. The main difference is optimization. You can’t change themes because you can’t install theme master. You can’t change scrape pictures because you can’t connect to the internet and even though when I connect the clone with an Ethernet cable to the usb c adapter and it shows a connection, the built in scraper doesn’t work. The only way I’ve been able to install themes and install pictures on the clone is by copying them from the R36S. I will make the clone look good enough to sell but first I’m going to try and make tutorials with it.
But is the clone the same in terms of emulation and performance? That is, does it have the same performance? same supported systems? I have read that the clone cannot run nds and dreamcast, is that correct?
In my opinion and a lot will disagree with me, the performance is about the same. The problem is that ArkOS is a little better optimized to run some emulators than EmuELEC. There will not be any updates on the latter because nobody seems to working on it whereas ArkOS, there are people still trying to maintain it. But to be honest with you, neither one of these two should be products to buy if those are the systems you want to play because all the following consoles are glitchy on both devices to the point where it will be annoying and you’ll just stop playing. Those systems are: N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, NDS and PSP. Of course there will be some games that will play fine but they are rare and in my experience, all the ones that I like are cpu intensive games that will not play right. One thing that I know for sure doesn’t work on the clone and I wish I could find a way to do it is to install “Ports”.
@@16bitsorhigher Thank you very much brother for the information, now it is clearer to me, generally I want it more for retro systems and for PS1, N64 and Dreamcast I don't usually use them so often, and for nds it could be a Mario or 2D game, which I imagine they won't have any problems To finish one more question, I know that the clone model is not compatible with connecting a Wi-Fi connector, so I see that it will be a problem to download the images via Wi-Fi. Is there a way to do it locally? That is, connect the SD to the PC and add the covers manually?
There is a way to scrape art on a computer through a program called “Skraper” on skraper.net but you have to download the program to a PC. It is a free program but you can only download images from one server at a time. If you pay for the complete service, you are able to download from multiple servers at a time and with the paid one, there is no limit on downloads. I’ve only used the free account because most my devices will download directly to them. And one thing I’m doing now is that since I own both an R36S and the fake one, I’m just downloading all the art on the R36S and then transferring the folders to the fake unit. It works perfectly well.
Copy hand device is normal and they will try to bring abit same system but different design .. the problem with clone device its fake.. but same design as the one we expected to have.. i don't mind to buy the fake one as long they tell me.. but not figured out after buying.. this felt betrayed..
@@fiziedon yes I bet everyone who got a fake one felt the same way. When I ordered the second one, I was kind of hoping I got the fake one because I like to tinker with devices and I wanted to see what I could do with it and also to try to help others with their issues. If you look at my latest short video, I was able to flash the latest EmuELEC CFW and it actually works a little better than original stock os.
@@Ni5ei The black one runs EmuELEC and the R36S runs ArkOS. I thought at first that it would be compatible so I did try to insert the Micro SD card from the R36S into the so called “Clone” and the power light didn’t even light up. As a matter of fact after I removed the ArkOS card from the clone and re inserted the original card, the unit didn’t want to turn on. I thought I had bricked the clone but I removed the card and inserted a couple of times and it worked again. So the answer to your question is: the clone is not compatible with ArkOS.
Both were ordered from AliExpress. The real one or purple one came from Boyhom store and the clone or black one came from ProQueen Store. The good thing about Amazon is that if you get the clone and you decide not to keep it, you will get a full refund. With AliExpress you don’t know. Edited: I actually got the purple one from a store called “Cutesliving Store” in AliExpress. I got my devices confused. I got something else from Boyhom.
@@Ni5ei I actually got the purple one from the “Cutesliving Store” in AliExpress. Back in March of this year. But I’ve heard Boyhom does sell the original R36S devices. The black one I got from “Pro Queen Store” in AliExpress.
@@16bitsorhigher By any chance the one on Aliexpress wasn't the one that was on sale between 20 and 25 dollars with a new account? I ordered one on sale for 18 dollars, and the seller is Factory Game Direct Store which they say is the most reliable, it hasn't arrived yet and I'm afraid it's a clone xD
@@NRASUPPORTER1911 AliExpress is the place to get it from. You just have to get in touch with the seller and ask them if they are selling the one with ArkOS installed.
Sorry for the late reply but I would recommend AliExpress but there are only 3 stores in there that have been confirmed to sell the real one and those are: 1. BOYHOM Store 2. Factory Game Direct Store 3. 001 Ali Choice Store . Outside of AliExpress, I don’t know if there are any confirmed stores.
@@WahbieLOOWahbi I have not played any two player games on any of these devices so I can’t give you accurate information but I’ve heard you can play two player games with two devices running ArkOS or the so called original ones. I’m not sure if the EmuELEC will support two player games.
@@berius Apparently the person that maintains the ArkOS software for the R36S claims that these devices are not being built by the same factory and the ones being built with the EmuELEC software are using different parts that are not compatible with ArkOS and that’s why they call them clones. There is actually another version being sold that doesn’t even come with the RK3326. It comes with the RK3128 which is really old and doesn’t run games properly. Those factory are just scamming people, taking advantage of the fame of the original R36S.
If you don’t have the ArkOS loading screen then it’s possible it’s the EmuELEC version but I have also seen another version that has an even older OS that’s loaded directly on the unit and is not installed on the Micro SD card according to the people that have posted the pictures. It also has the a cheaper CPU RK3128. If you remove the Micro SD card what partitions do you see?
@16bitsorhigher i flash new ark os 2.0 update sep 23 2024 around 8gb. Using my samsung fold (etchdroid) new 32gb sandisc now have ark os loading screen🥰
I didn’t press any hotkeys. It looks like I’m doing that because I was holding the phone from moving to the left because I was using one hand to raise the volume. And I was using one hand because I was recording with the other hand. Lol!
All comes from the same factory, just sometimes they change certain parts depending on prices and deliveries...
From what I read online, the factory that manufactures the original R36S is not the one manufacturing the fake one. They claim that they are trying their best to stop it but there isn’t really anything they can do with the project being an open source device. What I don’t like is that this other factory is copying the body of the R36S but the internal parts are from the Kinhank K36 and that is why you can install the CFW that works on the K36 on the fake unit and not ArkOS. If you try to install ArkOS on the fake device, the device will freeze and for some reason when you reinsert the original card that comes on the fake unit, it won’t boot right away. You have to start the system several times before it boots again which leads me to believe that some part of the OS is installed directly to the unit and not all on the SD card.
I was under the impression that the R36S might have different manufacturers and distributors, like a truly open-source handheld or a blueprint. They're pretty much the definition of a "generic brand" emulation handheld, in contrast with "branded" ones from Miyoo, Anbernic, Retroid, or even Powkiddy... so I don't know if it's technically possible for knockoffs to exist. Different standards of quality control would also make a lot of sense if there are different factories producing these.
@@randomname_tqrk I totally agree with that’s why I have always been hesitant to call the other devices clones but everybody calls them like that so you might say I’m just appealing to the masses. Lol!
How can you tell something is a copy when the "original" product is already a copy?
@@xGusth I understand completely what you are saying. The R36S is a copy of the RG353V and also a copy of the RGB20. But the reason why people call the new devices “clones” is because the clones are exactly 1:1 copies. The only thing that sets them apart is the operating system they are using and some parts that differ from the ones on the original R36S. If you place an R36S next to an RG353V or an RGB20 they don’t look exactly identical. The two on my video do. But I understand completely what you are saying. Another user also brought up the fact that this device is based on open source so anybody could make a copy with whatever operating system they choose. When you visit a store in AliExpress and they offer this device, they are not specifically telling you that it runs on ArkOS. They mention a “Linux” system which it’s true for both ArkOS and EmuELEC. So what I would recommend is to send the seller a question asking which version they are selling. I decided to keep both because they perform pretty much the same way when it comes to just playing games.
@@16bitsorhigher and the rgb20 is clone of powkiddy R35S
Mines a clone however it’s the best clone ever and I got it off Temu lol. I can do everything I should be able to with it and can change themes and all that fancy jazz
I just got the clone one lol, i didnt even know there were fake ones... But besides the system being a little worse it appears to run the games well, actually i saw some reviews saying the r36s couldnt run ps1 and psp games and they are working super fine on mine (clone)... I guess they have the same "power" but the OS of the clone is worse... You could do a video recording both playing the same games and the fps each one gets, would be fun to watch
That’s a really good idea. But PS1 games run perfectly well on the R36S. PSP games are the ones that lag like crazy. You can’t play Saturn games either on the R36S. What I noticed is that both devices have same capabilities when it comes to running games. The main difference is optimization. You can’t change themes because you can’t install theme master. You can’t change scrape pictures because you can’t connect to the internet and even though when I connect the clone with an Ethernet cable to the usb c adapter and it shows a connection, the built in scraper doesn’t work. The only way I’ve been able to install themes and install pictures on the clone is by copying them from the R36S. I will make the clone look good enough to sell but first I’m going to try and make tutorials with it.
@@16bitsorhigher I managed to put some games on it by adding them on the xml archive
@@16bitsorhigher my r36s plays saturn games just fine. weird.
But is the clone the same in terms of emulation and performance? That is, does it have the same performance? same supported systems? I have read that the clone cannot run nds and dreamcast, is that correct?
In my opinion and a lot will disagree with me, the performance is about the same. The problem is that ArkOS is a little better optimized to run some emulators than EmuELEC. There will not be any updates on the latter because nobody seems to working on it whereas ArkOS, there are people still trying to maintain it. But to be honest with you, neither one of these two should be products to buy if those are the systems you want to play because all the following consoles are glitchy on both devices to the point where it will be annoying and you’ll just stop playing. Those systems are: N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, NDS and PSP. Of course there will be some games that will play fine but they are rare and in my experience, all the ones that I like are cpu intensive games that will not play right. One thing that I know for sure doesn’t work on the clone and I wish I could find a way to do it is to install “Ports”.
@@16bitsorhigher Thank you very much brother for the information, now it is clearer to me, generally I want it more for retro systems and for PS1, N64 and Dreamcast I don't usually use them so often, and for nds it could be a Mario or 2D game, which I imagine they won't have any problems To finish one more question, I know that the clone model is not compatible with connecting a Wi-Fi connector, so I see that it will be a problem to download the images via Wi-Fi. Is there a way to do it locally? That is, connect the SD to the PC and add the covers manually?
There is a way to scrape art on a computer through a program called “Skraper” on skraper.net but you have to download the program to a PC. It is a free program but you can only download images from one server at a time. If you pay for the complete service, you are able to download from multiple servers at a time and with the paid one, there is no limit on downloads. I’ve only used the free account because most my devices will download directly to them. And one thing I’m doing now is that since I own both an R36S and the fake one, I’m just downloading all the art on the R36S and then transferring the folders to the fake unit. It works perfectly well.
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Copy hand device is normal and they will try to bring abit same system but different design .. the problem with clone device its fake.. but same design as the one we expected to have.. i don't mind to buy the fake one as long they tell me.. but not figured out after buying.. this felt betrayed..
@@fiziedon yes I bet everyone who got a fake one felt the same way. When I ordered the second one, I was kind of hoping I got the fake one because I like to tinker with devices and I wanted to see what I could do with it and also to try to help others with their issues. If you look at my latest short video, I was able to flash the latest EmuELEC CFW and it actually works a little better than original stock os.
@16bitsorhigher wow, that is an absolute beast.. this is awesome.. u able to help others who have bought the fake one.. hats off, bro.. 👍
Can it play saga master system or game gear?on r36s
If yes does it need extra. Emulator ?
Or just ROMs for it
@@hhh-xb8sl yes, you can and emulators are built in already. You just add your own roms.
Why don't you just clone the SD card from the purple one and put it in the black one?
Doesn't work. I got my clone and you can't do anything with native eulemec
@@biffski That would mean it's using a different firmware?
@Ni5ei I'm not sure but yes I think so. I think they open up real r36s bodies and swap in different firmware inside?
@@Ni5ei The black one runs EmuELEC and the R36S runs ArkOS. I thought at first that it would be compatible so I did try to insert the Micro SD card from the R36S into the so called “Clone” and the power light didn’t even light up. As a matter of fact after I removed the ArkOS card from the clone and re inserted the original card, the unit didn’t want to turn on. I thought I had bricked the clone but I removed the card and inserted a couple of times and it worked again.
So the answer to your question is: the clone is not compatible with ArkOS.
@@16bitsorhigher R36s - ArkOS image 12152023 this works
Where did you order them from? Same place or different places? I just ordered one from Amazon.
Both were ordered from AliExpress. The real one or purple one came from Boyhom store and the clone or black one came from ProQueen Store. The good thing about Amazon is that if you get the clone and you decide not to keep it, you will get a full refund. With AliExpress you don’t know.
Edited: I actually got the purple one from a store called “Cutesliving Store” in AliExpress. I got my devices confused. I got something else from Boyhom.
I'm getting a black one from Boyhom next week so I will compare it to the one in this video to see if it looks more like the purple one you have.
@@Ni5ei I actually got the purple one from the “Cutesliving Store” in AliExpress. Back in March of this year. But I’ve heard Boyhom does sell the original R36S devices. The black one I got from “Pro Queen Store” in AliExpress.
@@Ni5eidid you end up getting a clone or the real one?
@@16bitsorhigher By any chance the one on Aliexpress wasn't the one that was on sale between 20 and 25 dollars with a new account? I ordered one on sale for 18 dollars, and the seller is Factory Game Direct Store
which they say is the most reliable, it hasn't arrived yet and I'm afraid it's a clone xD
i have the og i love it play it every week for 35S just get a new sd card load your your fav roms and go
yeah right one has fake arkos bcz loading screen doesn't have 4 dots
hope this helps 🤗
Where to buy original?
@@NRASUPPORTER1911 AliExpress is the place to get it from. You just have to get in touch with the seller and ask them if they are selling the one with ArkOS installed.
Where can you buy the real one? Can you send the link?
Sorry for the late reply but I would recommend AliExpress but there are only 3 stores in there that have been confirmed to sell the real one and those are: 1. BOYHOM Store 2. Factory Game Direct Store 3. 001 Ali Choice Store . Outside of AliExpress, I don’t know if there are any confirmed stores.
Can you play 2 players with the fake one from temu and the real one from the original website and has more games
@@WahbieLOOWahbi I have not played any two player games on any of these devices so I can’t give you accurate information but I’ve heard you can play two player games with two devices running ArkOS or the so called original ones. I’m not sure if the EmuELEC will support two player games.
@16bitsorhigher Ok thanks for letting me know
this is softwere problem not clone
@@berius Apparently the person that maintains the ArkOS software for the R36S claims that these devices are not being built by the same factory and the ones being built with the EmuELEC software are using different parts that are not compatible with ArkOS and that’s why they call them clones. There is actually another version being sold that doesn’t even come with the RK3326. It comes with the RK3128 which is really old and doesn’t run games properly. Those factory are just scamming people, taking advantage of the fame of the original R36S.
NO ARK OS Loading screen
If you don’t have the ArkOS loading screen then it’s possible it’s the EmuELEC version but I have also seen another version that has an even older OS that’s loaded directly on the unit and is not installed on the Micro SD card according to the people that have posted the pictures. It also has the a cheaper CPU RK3128. If you remove the Micro SD card what partitions do you see?
@16bitsorhigher i flash new ark os 2.0 update sep 23 2024 around 8gb. Using my samsung fold (etchdroid) new 32gb sandisc now have ark os loading screen🥰
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but bboth aree copies
hi sir.
@@arazinns10ff11 Hi!
what hotkeys did u press? th-cam.com/video/SMOMnLfNXRE/w-d-xo.html
I didn’t press any hotkeys. It looks like I’m doing that because I was holding the phone from moving to the left because I was using one hand to raise the volume. And I was using one hand because I was recording with the other hand. Lol!