I have seen a lot of British videos of their passenger train ovals, but yours is the first shunting layout. You have managed to squeeze a lot of freight or goods sidings in such a small space. I enjoy the shunting aspects of model railroading more than running trains in circles around a loop. Nice to see you do too.
Just found this and it's a real "Gem" reminds me of a layout I built back in the 80's with some spare track and points left over from another project had great fun of endless hours of shunting
It can certainly be quite entertaining, especially over an exhibition weekend. It does avoid the problem of running out of things to do; there are always new puzzles on this layout to explore.
This is the video that helped me find your channel. I was looking for ideas for small shelf layouts. I discovered the inglenooks, time savers and then this.
Thanks! It was pretty therapeutic to build, and offers a myriad of operation opportunities. It can easily soak up hours of attention at model railway shows, just shuffling wagons backwards and forwards.
Wonderful video with an fascinating and considered track plan there Jennifer. It's covered some aspects of shunting that I am new to, but starting to get really interested in and thus given me a lot of food for thought. Thank you for sharing this excellent series of videos :) - Sim
Very neat yard; I've often wondered about concocting a motorised brake van to allow for fly shunting of awkward yards...and that regular trick of pulling a wagon on a parallel line with a chain or rope.
This is a very interesting layout you have here! I'm actually in the process of building my first route for Railworks/Train Simulator based around a series of shunting puzzle layouts connected together. If there's no objection, I would love to include this as one of the yards.
Thanks for a really informative video. I am in the process of experimenting with marshalling yards, and you have some really good ideas there I'd like to expand on. I especially like the use of 3 way points and the diamond crossing to create a runaround loop.
Thanks! There certainly are lots of possibilities in a small space by using some of the available track components to overlap several shunting puzzles so that operating interest is maximised without too much compromise.
Our Grandson (just coming up 8) just lurrrvs shunting layouts when we go to an exhibition. I was planning a dead simple one, but now I have seen this I'm thinking I really like one with loads of points and sidings. Love the philosophy re the planning as well. Thanks for posting (I think...!)
Many thanks! Yes, plenty of track and opportunities is good to keep operator interest going as much as anything. Best of luck with putting the layout together!
Thanks Jenny. We were at a show at the quiet time (I avoid the anoraks and the crowds) one Sunday afternoon, and my Grandson spent an hour and 50 minutes just shunting - he had a fab time. Since then, at every show he makes a bee-line for the shunting layouts!
No problem. Sounds good. I know a lot of visitors like to see stuff moving, and it's also a lot better for an exhibitor too to have stuff to do. I always look at the layouts that are nothing more than an out and back plank, and think that the operators must be bored to tears by the end of each day.
Yeah totally agree. I gave up going too exhibitions with a club years ago as it did my head in. I spend hours building a layout (years!) and very little time running them. Bob Alderman, of Yeovil model railway group, whom I have known for 50 years (!) is a top-notch modeller and with the club, exhibits regularly (see 'The Summit') and says that all exhibitors 'should be members of equity for the day' which means they should get on and entertain, as, sadly, some seem to think it's okay to gas with their mates and not run the trains!
I rarely go to exhibitions as either exhibitor or punter. The thing that always used to bore me were the layouts run to a 'prototype timetable' which meant that if you weren't there for that thirty seconds every four hours, nothing moved. Meanwhile the rest of the time the operators were in their little fortress of solitude behind studiously ignoring the world around them and any questions.
Looks like a challenging layout! Have you published a video of it in operation? It is very interesting to translate the British terms into North American terms. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
Hi Jennifer. I am new to modelling (well since I was a youngster - now retired or in Spanish - jubilado - sounds like it is - fun). I have space limitations and so am looking for an interesting layout with lots to do and that I can put away. Therefore, your shunting layout has got my interest. I want to do an N scale, early BR, market town yard layout based on your track plan. I have designed it but I think that it is too "loose". I know that your layout is in OO but can you tell me what length extra track is there between the two 3 way turnouts (including the 2 other turnouts). This seems to be the critical dimension to the setting of everything else). Regards David
The length of track between the two three ways is set by the length of wagons used. It will allow a locomotive to (just!) run around three Bachmann short wheelbase wagons like VVVs or MXVs. Alternatively it will allow a locomotive to run around two longer wheelbase wagons such as TTAs or SSAs.
Hi Jennifer I know this is an old video but it is still very relevant for someone lime me getting back into 00, the double slip you have used, is it code 80 or 75?
Hi Jenny. Great instructional video. That is a lot of points in a small area, if the three way points are counted as 2 then it must be close to twelve points. That will make it challenging but fun to operate. So key elements are sidings, a passing loop and head shunts? John
It certainly is fun to operate. There are lots of different puzzles that can be worked through on this layout. I think the most important element is the passing loop, as without this options quickly become very limited.
I just discovered your channel and subscribed, and I'm all eager to get caught up on all the great stuff you've posted, but... golly... the Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Special just came on BBC America, and I am so very torn...
Theere is a video of this layout at an exhibition if you search on my channel for "shunting on Grove street yard". I do occasionally exhibit this layout, but my work does leave me with little spare time so I tend to only accept a couple of invites a year.
very nice, but the audio needs to be louder: it almost seems that you are whispering. Really cool to see a woman so involved in the hobby; kudos and accolades!
This was on the old camera that we had, and Zoë (my editor) has come a long way with editing and balancing things like light and sound levels since then. However videos once uploaded to TH-cam cannot easily be edited as far as I know.
A personal question please Jenny. How did you become so interested and knowable on model railways. All the females I know think I am nuts Thanks for upload. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I use a Gaugemaster series D double track controller. This provides the 16V for the CDU as well as powering the yard lights from the second controller output set to around 4V to preserve bulb life.
I have seen a lot of British videos of their passenger train ovals, but yours is the first shunting layout. You have managed to squeeze a lot of freight or goods sidings in such a small space. I enjoy the shunting aspects of model railroading more than running trains in circles around a loop. Nice to see you do too.
Thanks!
That is quite the impressive trackwork for the amount of space you have.
Just found this and it's a real "Gem" reminds me of a layout I built back in the 80's with some spare track and points left over from another project had great fun of endless hours of shunting
Thanks!
Excellent description of the possibilties. Great layout. I like the variety of points. Thanks.
Looks like one could have a lot of fun working the different sidings, dropping off and picking up the various cars. Cheers!
It can certainly be quite entertaining, especially over an exhibition weekend. It does avoid the problem of running out of things to do; there are always new puzzles on this layout to explore.
This is the video that helped me find your channel. I was looking for ideas for small shelf layouts. I discovered the inglenooks, time savers and then this.
Wonderful job! This looks challenging & I bet, tons of fun!
Thanks! It was pretty therapeutic to build, and offers a myriad of operation opportunities. It can easily soak up hours of attention at model railway shows, just shuffling wagons backwards and forwards.
Wonderful video with an fascinating and considered track plan there Jennifer. It's covered some aspects of shunting that I am new to, but starting to get really interested in and thus given me a lot of food for thought. Thank you for sharing this excellent series of videos :) - Sim
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No problem. Glad to be of help.
Jennifer, your video is very inspirational. Thanks for sharing your model with us. Miguel Angel.
Thanks! You're welcome.
Very neat yard; I've often wondered about concocting a motorised brake van to allow for fly shunting of awkward yards...and that regular trick of pulling a wagon on a parallel line with a chain or rope.
This is a very interesting layout you have here! I'm actually in the process of building my first route for Railworks/Train Simulator based around a series of shunting puzzle layouts connected together. If there's no objection, I would love to include this as one of the yards.
I hope to start my own little shunting layout.That one looks great. Subscribed!
Thanks!
Nice to see the 'aerial view'. Given me some food for thought. Any chance you might do a video showing typical shunting operations?
There are a couple of videos on TH-cam showing it running if you do a search for "Grove Street Yard"
Thanks for a really informative video. I am in the process of experimenting with marshalling yards, and you have some really good ideas there I'd like to expand on. I especially like the use of 3 way points and the diamond crossing to create a runaround loop.
Thanks! There certainly are lots of possibilities in a small space by using some of the available track components to overlap several shunting puzzles so that operating interest is maximised without too much compromise.
Looks like a nice shunting layout! Thanks.
Thanks!
Very useful information. Thank you!
Very interesting, thanks Jenny!
Our Grandson (just coming up 8) just lurrrvs shunting layouts when we go to an exhibition. I was planning a dead simple one, but now I have seen this I'm thinking I really like one with loads of points and sidings. Love the philosophy re the planning as well. Thanks for posting (I think...!)
Many thanks! Yes, plenty of track and opportunities is good to keep operator interest going as much as anything. Best of luck with putting the layout together!
Thanks Jenny. We were at a show at the quiet time (I avoid the anoraks and the crowds) one Sunday afternoon, and my Grandson spent an hour and 50 minutes just shunting - he had a fab time. Since then, at every show he makes a bee-line for the shunting layouts!
No problem. Sounds good. I know a lot of visitors like to see stuff moving, and it's also a lot better for an exhibitor too to have stuff to do. I always look at the layouts that are nothing more than an out and back plank, and think that the operators must be bored to tears by the end of each day.
Yeah totally agree. I gave up going too exhibitions with a club years ago as it did my head in. I spend hours building a layout (years!) and very little time running them. Bob Alderman, of Yeovil model railway group, whom I have known for 50 years (!) is a top-notch modeller and with the club, exhibits regularly (see 'The Summit') and says that all exhibitors 'should be members of equity for the day' which means they should get on and entertain, as, sadly, some seem to think it's okay to gas with their mates and not run the trains!
I rarely go to exhibitions as either exhibitor or punter. The thing that always used to bore me were the layouts run to a 'prototype timetable' which meant that if you weren't there for that thirty seconds every four hours, nothing moved. Meanwhile the rest of the time the operators were in their little fortress of solitude behind studiously ignoring the world around them and any questions.
Nice Video, very informative, and useful tips.
been nice to see some Shunting at end of video to show your points,
x Paul
There are videos on TH-cam of this layout in operation if you do a search for "Grove Street Yard"
Looks like a challenging layout! Have you published a video of it in operation? It is very interesting to translate the British terms into North American terms. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
If you do a search for "Grove Street Yard" you will find a couple of videos of it operating at exhibitions.
If you gave us the size it would reveal that it's actually very large. You could cut the board up and make three or four shunting layouts.
I was also curious as to the dimensions...
Hi Jennifer. I am new to modelling (well since I was a youngster - now retired or in Spanish - jubilado - sounds like it is - fun). I have space limitations and so am looking for an interesting layout with lots to do and that I can put away. Therefore, your shunting layout has got my interest. I want to do an N scale, early BR, market town yard layout based on your track plan. I have designed it but I think that it is too "loose". I know that your layout is in OO but can you tell me what length extra track is there between the two 3 way turnouts (including the 2 other turnouts). This seems to be the critical dimension to the setting of everything else). Regards David
The length of track between the two three ways is set by the length of wagons used. It will allow a locomotive to (just!) run around three Bachmann short wheelbase wagons like VVVs or MXVs. Alternatively it will allow a locomotive to run around two longer wheelbase wagons such as TTAs or SSAs.
Hi Jennifer I know this is an old video but it is still very relevant for someone lime me getting back into 00, the double slip you have used, is it code 80 or 75?
What is the actual size of the layout it does look very compact
thank you Jenny!
No problem!
hiya J.E.K. are there any vids of you running this yard ??? would love to see it in action as im sure others would and have prob asked before
Yes, there is a video somewhere on my channel that shows it being operated at an exhibition about five or so years ago.
thx...I'll go for a hunt ☺
Hi Jenny. Great instructional video. That is a lot of points in a small area, if the three way points are counted as 2 then it must be close to twelve points. That will make it challenging but fun to operate. So key elements are sidings, a passing loop and head shunts? John
It certainly is fun to operate. There are lots of different puzzles that can be worked through on this layout. I think the most important element is the passing loop, as without this options quickly become very limited.
Love the layout, quick question, what are the dimensions of Grove Street Yard?
4 ft-6 inches by 20 inches
Forgive me if the question has been asked but where can one get a copy of the track plan?
It was printed in a copy of Model Rail magazine in IIRC issue 143.
I just discovered your channel and subscribed, and I'm all eager to get caught up on all the great stuff you've posted, but... golly... the Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Special just came on BBC America, and I am so very torn...
There is always time for Dr Who; especially if you have a TARDIS.....
Do you still exhibit the layout Jennifer?or have thought of an operational video for TH-cam viewers
Kev.
Theere is a video of this layout at an exhibition if you search on my channel for "shunting on Grove street yard". I do occasionally exhibit this layout, but my work does leave me with little spare time so I tend to only accept a couple of invites a year.
very nice, but the audio needs to be louder: it almost seems that you are whispering. Really cool to see a woman so involved in the hobby; kudos and accolades!
This was on the old camera that we had, and Zoë (my editor) has come a long way with editing and balancing things like light and sound levels since then. However videos once uploaded to TH-cam cannot easily be edited as far as I know.
A personal question please Jenny. How did you become so interested and knowable on model railways. All the females I know think I am nuts Thanks for upload. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
What controller do you have
I use a Gaugemaster series D double track controller. This provides the 16V for the CDU as well as powering the yard lights from the second controller output set to around 4V to preserve bulb life.
bravaa ! ciaoo!
Grazie!
adorabile!
Hi Philip here me and my girlfriend are doing my railway layout similar to yours is that ok let me know.is yours in 00 scale.mine is.let me know
A correction : circuit name : AR2
I have spent months investigating diy railroad layouts and found an awesome resource at Jareks Hobby Club (check it out on google)
Too complicated for me, lol