Just to note because many have said it: Zylos comment about an old concept not being released is NOT applicable here. This was pulled directly from the game files in the latest PTU patch. It also has it's own slot in the RSI halls holo viewers, as well as a full description within the game files (thats how we know its modular for example) CIG wouldn't add those newly into the latest PTU for something they aren't releasing ;)
Wonderfully put together video! Loved the mix of solid speculation and known data. RSI's design language recently has been absolutely beautiful. This ship is definitely a threat to my wallet.
Thanks, that makes me happy to hear especially with this being unscripted (though i did do like 5 takes 😅) Agreed on the design style for RSI. I used to hate the looks, but the "modern" style is growing on me quick
if i remember correctly i think i once put an avenger on a carracks hangar, it fit tightly but it wasnt any cheesy glitchy thing, it fit 100%, that might be an advantage for the carrack over the galaxy
The RSI Galaxy is a multirole ship so it is not a Carrack killer. The Carrack was never intended to be a multirole ship, it is an exploration ship with modules specialized in scientific exploration only!
I think that was the carracks intent yes, but I would argue that it sorta ended up being a jack of all trades accidentally. Its almost as good as the cat for cargo. It's fairly good in combat. Can carry near every vehicle (including fleets of ROC). I think that's why it's so popular - no matter your need it can fill it
@@RobotSpartan the term Carrack killer was just a troll that every Carrack-fan took seriously and it pops up stupidly with every big concept ship is reveal !
Great video. I don't think it will be a carrack killer but will be interesting to see them side by side with a full spec comparison when it's available. I think it will probably be something in between the 600i and a carrack for that kind of size competitor. The carrack has 3 modules so overall you could have the best of 3 completely different modules of youre choosing. This has 1 but it may still offer a slightly different functionality yet in terms of exploration. Combat wise I think you would need fighters to watch this things 6, so maybe the larger option would be better purely from a defensive standpoint. But we will see!
thanks On the size, its actually almost identical to the carrack, only 10m smaller in each direction (and the carrack is very tall when landed) which is what spurred the comparison as opposed to the 600 (which this sits quite far above size wise) Aye the carrack being able to mix and match (but likely with lower tier stuff) could make it the overall winner in a lot of eyes. Am curious for sure
Oh yeah so it is basically carrack sized then haha. That's pretty exciting! And yeah with it being actually the same size as the carrack, I agree with you way more. For some reason I was under the impression it was still alot smaller than that compared to the carrack. But yeah this will be very interesting. Thanks for you're video and you're time dude 😀
Great video! I am a giant nerd so I put down a huge comparison for my own purposese comparing my perfect “Pyro ship”. Honestly though, as awesome as this ship looks, there’s a lot that would keep it from being a “Carrack Killer” 1) If the hangar doesn’t allow for a larger ship than the Carrack’s does, it provides no extra value compared to the Carrack 2) The Carrack provides respawning, garage space, large cargo space, workbench, drones, AND dedicated exploration equipment all at the same time. This ship sounds like it would only provide one of those things at a time, and may not even have all of those capabilities.
Don't forget the Carrack has 2 different long range scanners, can map jump points with its array and has 3 modular drop pods each big enough to work as a garage with the cargo pods alone or as landing bays for a swarm of Merlins, add to that its guns have great all around coverage.
Agree with both points there. It seems to me that the carrack is going for the jack of all trades, whereas this is going for a "choose a focus and specialise". Of course, there could be some balance to it, who knows
I had noticed that re. The ramps, but I think that's the right way to go As said in the video, apparently the default is only 32, but it can slap a big hold on the back if needed
i feel like once the 600i gets reworked, it will also become a competitor into the large explorer segment. So that gives us the Carrack, Galaxy, Oddyssey, and now the 600i. Now all we need is a Drake competitor
600i is in a weird "in between" space imo, sort of a stepping stone from the connie to the carrack. Oddly, 400i is in that same boat, as a stepping stone from the lancer to the connie A proper drake sub cap would be pretty sweet though!
@@RobotSpartan I lean more towards agreeing with iCore. Once the rework is in the MAIN advantage the Carrack offers over the 600i the hangar, but the Carrack hangar is extremely limited. Otherwise though the 600i offers many of the same benefits in a more solo-friendly package.
@@jeremyj5932 Ody is the same size as the carrack, so larger "large", or a "sub capital". It MIGHT have a capital component i forget, but thats not a good measure of a ships size stat (i.e. the conny and corsair have S3 shields but are medium ships)
@@stoneguard Dont forget the rework wont change anything externally on the 600i (well, baring maybe ramp location), so it will still be a fair bit smaller and more agile than the carrack, and likely with less capacity. This is why i say its more a stepping stone from the conny to the carrack. Connie you can solo quite easily. Carrack NEEDS a group. 600i benifits but can be pushed solo
I am hoping they are going to go the Endeavor route. A main ship priced somewhere between $500 - $600 and sell the models separately. So, for example, a medical Galaxy may be a $650 ship but it would consist of $500 ship and a $150 module. Then they could sell a combo (Ship + 3 Modules for a "discount" of $900)
Carrack is a very different ship dedicated to exploration and especially wormholes with extra mofules thst csn be droped off on planets and used separatelyfrom the ship. Also got a snub bay xs size not xxs ( bike size) have internal modules not drop variants. No drones and no wormhole scanning futures or solar system.wide scans like carrack has. They are teo diffrent types of ship. One exploration and scanning dedicated best of it's class. The other a civilian ship thst can be changed with modules to be very good different tasks.
The snub bay is classed as XXS on the carrack; XS is things like the aurora which the carrack cannot fit. floor space its XS, but height its XXS, just one of those weird edge cases But agreed, i think they're going to play to different styles, though i dont doubt there are some for whom the carrack wasn't for wormhole scanning but a "do everything ship" so this might sell them on a switch
When Crusader decides to make an exploration ship that has: a snub, a rover, drones, S0/S2 component repair, medbay, armory, charting station, and 3 modular compartments it can change up, then we will have a "Carrack killer".
A bit of a note, but the Carrack's hangar can comfortably fit an Aurora LN, so if the Galaxy has one of like size, you could conceivably carry an Aurora in it unless it's oddly shaped in some way. That said, the Galaxy doesn't need a hangar for me to already be in love with it.
The Carrack has a medical bay, huge cargo, modularity for the cargo bays, drone bays, small 3d printer workshop and the same size hanger. I mean maybe an internal refinery would make it stand apart, but I don't see a reason why you would choose a medical or cargo modual when the Carrack already has both. I might be interested if they had a much, much larger hangar bay module. Hangar bays, if you can spawn ships in it, basically gives you faster modularity by just placing specific ships inside. i.e., Cutless Red gives you more medical beds, Prospector gives you mining abilities, Scorpion gives you more weapons support, Hull A/B gives you more cargo.
So, cargo module would just make it akin to the carrack, albeit as you say without the other benifits the carrack has. Medical i would assume allows for multiple tier 1 or 2 beds, vs the carracks single T2 (and those drop pods are likely to not have medical because imagine doing surgery in a container!!) Oddly enough, from your "i might be interested" you described the odyssey 😅
To be fair, those things can be added simultaneously, as they're not directly impacting each others implementation. Also, races are in 3.18! Finally my P72 can see some use...
@@RobotSpartan good! But will they also be set on some dope planets? Or just space? I want to race trough pandora and that city planet seen on one of the racing maps
Carrack is long range military exploitation. This seems like a midrange explorer. I like it. I do wish it had a hangar. I don’t I known why everyone thinks ship having hangar make them OP. They just make way more sense for ships this size.
That doesn't sound like that big of a ship when you consider that the Corsair can fit an Ursa and Dragonfly easily at once or you can fit a Merlin inside on it's own.
Size of a cargo bay is misleading when using it to compare ship sizes. Consider that a Hammerhead can only just manage an Ursa but is near double the size of a Corsair for example. A lot of space is often times be dedicated to other things, so it's more important to look at the whole package rather than focus on a singular element
Some thoughts on this subject. They'll need to put tier 2 medical beds on all variants and tier 1 in the medical module to be a real contender for the Carrack. The weapon configuration is strange, the weapons are too small to engage capital ships and it will likely be no very nimble to outmaneuver smaller ships. I don't see how it will be able to defend itself having no dedicated weapons with large firing arcs against fighters. Too little info to write it off but I'll wait for active development before considering to upgrade from the Carrack.
Agreed regarding the med bed. At least a simple crew bay. On the weapons, it's actually slightly ahead of the carrack DPS wise. I can forsee this functioning similar in that regard - missiles to ward off the small fighters, armour to ignore their shots, turrets deal with medium threats. Although that's of course lord knows when!
RSI is really feeling out their fleet roles almost perfectly. I could totally see the Galaxy as the leading ship to a fleet of Polaris, and Perseus. All they need a is a mid/light fighter and they will really offer a odd multi roll styled fleet range.
I think thats the goal with RSI to be honest, sorta be the rolls royce. Want a luxury car? Yeah we make that. Need an engine for your military jet? We got that too!
I am kind of interested. I have thought about the ship as a Carrack compeditor. But before deciding i would like to see more of it during IAE. The module isn't much different from the Carracks cargo pods, but what does the rest of the ship really offer. The style on the other hand..... it looks really, really reeeeeeeally good.
As a Carrack size ship and depending on what else it got, i would say the price being closer to the 600$ mark than the 700$ mark. But maybe it exceeds that becaus3 of modules.
One thing the carrack does have is that each of the 3 bays are separate, meaning you can mix and match. Though i dont see the carrack being a dedicated field hospital or refinery! As for the price, my logic was based on the ody price being higher, which im fairly certain CIG did to get some carrack owners to CCU. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same here is my line of thinking :)
@@RobotSpartan As far as i have understand it, the base Galaxy has 32 SCU and can up that to a total of 512 SCU if all cargo modules are installed. That would mean: 512 - 32 = 480 SCU. And "all cargo modules" means more than 2. So 480 ÷ 3 = 160 SCU each. Sounds logical. The Odyssey was more expensive than the Carrack because its the larger ship which also has Capital shields. The RSI Galaxy seems to be smaller and offers less functionality (for right now) so why would it be a higher pledge?
Ah it ups it to 512? That's a misinterpretation on my part. Interesting understanding of the wording there. Could be a quirk of the writers choice of words of course, we will have to see The ody isn't that much larger than the carrack. 140m Vs 127m long, and 90m vs 77m wide, most of that being due to the hanger. In terms of "useable space" they're extremely comparible. Shields sizes are irrelevant nowadays too (Conny, Corsair, redeemer, defender....) I don't think the ody was 700 because it's slightly bigger, I think it was 700 because cig wanted to tempt carrack owners to CCU and felt $100 was the perfect balance between numbers tempted and cost. The galaxy is only slightly smaller than the carrack at 115m long, and depending on internal layout will probably have a similar "useable space", and I don't doubt cig will use it's modularity to tempt people away from the carrack again, which means it has to cost at least a penny more Maybe I'm just being cynical here I dunno 🤷♂️
@@RobotSpartan maybe. And people always that the CCU game or the melting gane is of any interest at CIG. Not that they would like to get more fresh money. I am not sure if the way you think the people over at CIG make their startegy for their funding model. And yes, shields, size and functionality do matter. The Odyssey has a standart small hangar, capital shields and can make its own quantum fuel. So in order to ask for a pledge price above 600, the Galaxy would need a bit more functionality than the Carrack. Because the Carrack has modularity too. And looking at the leaked specs of the galaxy (no hangar or vehicle bay for a rover) and that its quiet a bit smaller (seems like a lot of fluff wing panelling) it seems that the Odyssey is the bigger one, the Carrack the middle one and the Galaxy the smaller one of those ships. But i guess we'll find out very soon.
I find it funny how after all these years, people are still surprised by consistent weapon placement: RSI's weapons face mostly forwards, Aegis has turrets like a porcupine, Origin has at least one strong turret at the rear, Drake's face sideways. Anvil has turrets anywhere +strong armor. Well, too bad I already have a Polaris.
RSI ships usually come with missles, so it's also likely that this ship has a missle bay to supplement it's turrets. I wouldn't expect it to come with a full armament of torpedoes like the Perseus, but should at have a dozen size 3's.
@@freezedriedicecream i did mention its likely to have an array of them. launcher tubes are usually easy to spot, and i THINK i found some under the nose, but they could be retros. As you say though, RSI ships like their missiles so i'd expect many
Pisces is pretty small, and there is enough space to fit an XXS hanger (what the carrack has). Whether it has one or not is yet to be seen, but it's certainly possible. That said, a valid argument
I did hit Z, but because i didn't have anything selected it wouldn't snap. then i brain farted and didn't think to just select something from the left browser 😂 This is why i rarely do anything unscripted Wireframe looks an absolute mess on this model, so it seemed better to not at the time, though i will think to include it in the future :)
@@RobotSpartan interesting, it should work without anything selected too. No worries mate still did a good job. I've used a few from the holo viewer and yeah a total mess. Thanks for the content and keep it up!
@@TomH3D I think i need to update max to be honest, getting all sorts of weirdness (still on 22.1, didn't bother upgrading to .3) And i shall endeavour to do so :)
6 size 5's on the remote turrets will certainly do some hurt, though I found zero pilot controlled weapons sadly. A combat module adding some extra dakka could be a good add though
I'm guessing a bit lower since it's the original concept sale: 550 WB and 750 WB for a potential "master set" with all modules. But i'm probably waay off xD
I'm looking forward to seeing this ship. I don't really care for how the Carrack turned out (unpopular opinion, I know), and this looks like a very interesting possibly alternative for me. I just wish RSI day wasn't toward the end of the sale, it's going to be a tough wait :) Thanks for the video!
The carrack is ok but not great. It really needs a rework top to bottom to fix all the glaring issues. I'm really not a fan of the 3 cargo pods underneath it. That should be one single unit as those cargo pods are useless for anything other than standard cargo imo. I'm interested to see how the 600i rework goes and whether they consider a carrack rework as it's a good base to work from at least.
Just as the Anvil Carrack can fit an Anvil Pisces, I would hope that in a similar, logical tradition the RSI Galaxy would fit an RSI Scorpius or Aurora. Most of the RSI ships either in-game or concept are medium and large ships. The Scorpius and the Aurora are the only smaller ships available. I wouldn't mind if the Galaxy's ability to hold a ship the size of a Scorpius turned out to be its niche. A lot of unknowns here though. I would assume it must come with a med-bed with respawn capabilities. With a name like Galaxy coupled with the fact that RSI is already developing warships, I would expect this to be an exploration vessel. Perhaps it's ability to carry a larger fighter would balance its inability to properly defend itself from the rear. Just a thought.
I don't know much about the Galaxy, but I know I want one! 😆I hope we don't have to wait more than a year or 2 for it since it's already in production.
The exterior of the model is further along than some holo's i've seen, but i've also seen them further along. Based on its size? I'm thinking about a year
Until it's clarified where it's purpose is, I'm not sure if it's a Carrack competitor directly - at least not as an explorer. If the module are as leaked (Refining, Transport, and Medical) plus the small hangar can hold a medical Pisces Rescue, it will have some interesting flexibility. POSSIBLE USES: A larger version of an Expanse, to handle more refining of ore. A base medical ship, with maybe more than one Tier 2 bed with its own ambulance. Or a transport ship for cargo, and/or if its like the new 600i EX reworked module, also be able to move much larger vehicles in the Atlas/Nova range with an added lift to the module. All is speculation right now, I know, but the Carrack has features this may not, and the trade off of what appears to be one large module (600i, Galaxy) to several smaller ones (Caterpillar, Carrack) might make for intriguing debate.
This has the potential to be a great ship. Imagine being able to play with a regular crew and do any task with one ship. Want to run cargo? Want to be a medic? Want to mine? BOOM. Stop by your base and Pick up the module for the current occupation
It looks alot like an ED Python with a rear end modification... I like it... I think that modifying ship designs from other games and sci-fi genres is a great idea... 🙂
I'm hoping that it has a medbed already and you don't need a full medical module for one bed. Since it's competing with the carrack... larger constellation? yes please....
@@RobotSpartan that's my thoughts as well... I've been wanting an rsi carrack sized ship, the constellation just isn't big enough... but this has larger cargo and modularity will be awesome if you can quick swap the module to turn it into a medical ship too I'm really hoping it's the surprise ship for 3.18 !
The odyssey loaner is a carrack plus reliant, so i'd say maybe carrack and aurora? Hard to say And aye, i have a half finished CCU chain to the polaris, but this could be more my fit. Save me money too
It's all about the modules and crew accommodations. If it can run an exploration module with good scanners and extended fuel range, or a module with a medium ship bay, I may CCU my odyssey. If the crew accommodations are just bunks in a single room, no thanks. Anything less and I'll just view it as another pretty RSI design I probably won't worry about following further, like every other RSI to date.
@@RobotSpartan 890 jump was sold as exploration ship that is on the 890 jump features in its advertising peroid. Exploration is all over their advertising for this ship.
@@RobotSpartan you shouldn't talk about ships you don't own or have not spent money. Even inforunners needed back track on calling the 890 jump just touring ship.
Ignoring for a moment that you don't know what my fleet consists of; Just because I haven't spent a stupid amount IRL on a ship, doesn't mean I can't talk about it. That's a very poor standing to take, and a very dangerous one. That aside, I didn't say it CAN'T explore, I said it's more for touring. There's a reason I make that distinction, least of all that CIG themselves consider it a luxury touring vessel and in no media refer to it as an explorer (barring one line in the pdf brochure, which actually is just referencing it's sensors "never missing a thing") Touring is a part of exploration, which itself is an unimaginably broad category. Searching for a minable cluster of asteroids is exploration. Finding jump points is exploration. Finding pretty sights (touring) is exploration. The 890 wasnt designed for all of them, nor does it have the equipment for them. So whilst it is indeed an exploration vessel, it's one with a specific focus in mind. Calling it an exploration vessel is therefore far too broad a descriptor (As a note - I've owned an 890 in game for probably a total of a year all in all. I even have a video on it if my word isn't enough)
@@RobotSpartan then go head please list all your ships you have. I proof the 890 jump was sold as exploration ship. I bought the 890 jump from day one. I have many people that agree with me including yatchclub.
Hoping it will leave exploration alone. My guess is that it'll stay more toward industrial stuff with, cargo, refueling, medical, and weapons. Though what the weapons is I wouldn't know.
Hmm, a combat module could be quite interesting actually. theres enough space to add more guns and turrets, and with the back being an "empty slate", they dont even have to be squared off
Zylos response was with regards to the old leaked documents. This was pulled from the latest game files as a holoviewer. It also has a dedicated slot in the IAE halls, so i'd be extremely surprised to see it not be released
It will be different to the Carrack, just as for example the 400i is to the Connie. There’s no point CIG producing the same ships with different brands, so one good aspect is they like to have different functionality, strengths and weaknesses. The Carrack is for exploration. While this looks to be similar size, I expect it will have a different focus and purpose. Personally I love the Carrack and it remains currently the best ship live in the game, hence it rightly winning a second ship showdown.
Hi there, interesting Video. Nicely done. Answer to your question: will it be better than the Carrack? No. Long answer: Carrack is specialised in Wormhole Exploration and dabbles in Search & rescue and cargo hauling (modules are planned however) Odyssey is dedicated to longterm independent exploration and dabbling in all sorts of mission types sacrificing the dedicated scanners and antennas for wormhole exploration, but gaining its mining and refining capabilities (these will only benefit itself however) and the Galaxy will be specialising in different tasks (only one at a time, depending on the module installed) like cargo transport, search & rescue or refuelling/rearming. These are my thoughts, however they are based on the ship descriptions and everything the developers had to say about the before mentioned ships over the years. If anything the Galaxy is supposed to look like the superior ship for the upcoming sales, no illusions there. I think the Carrack is too popular, they have to find ways that there won ˋt be thousands of Carracks upon release in the verse. I love the design of the Galaxy. I ´d like one myself. But I wouldn ´t get a Galaxy for exploration based on the little we currently know. Really good point you made by the way with the position of the bridge btw. The huge blind spot in the rear i noticed right away though. It won ´t be very effective against fighters. But it will be a threat to ships of the Connie- and Carrack-Classes.
thanks :) I'd say based on your reply, you have the same mindset as me? carrack is the jack of all trades, on top of specialising in wormhole scanning. Ody is the jack of all trades on top of being able to refuel itself on the fly. Galaxy looks to be a master of one selected task, making it better where theres a singular goal (S&R, Hauling, etc) but has limited flexibility where the situation calls for it?
I love my Carrack, but if this is going to be something that I can CCU from the Carrack to, then I'm 100% going to do that! I love medical gameplay and with the upcoming release of the C8R, Having this with a medical module will be fantastic!
One of the arguments I heard (I think info runners) for it maybe having a small hanger is for the C8R, and that the C8R itself may well exist because of this. which does make sense, as this then becomes a very viable field hospital
I really hope that’s the reason!! I love RSI ships, and I have an Apollo, but for a mobile hospital this thing sounds amazing!! I’m really looking forward to hearing more about it come RSI day!
No you’re right, but we don’t know for sure what this ship will do and the potential for a modular carrack sized RSI ship is something I’m looking forward to more than having a Carrack. Plus my buddy has a Carrack so I still won’t be missing much.
I'd expect at minimum a crew med bay. But that said, the carrack and cat are much in the same boat in theory. If you replace the cargo bays with other modules, you lose the storage etc
i am thinking about upgrading my carrack to the galaxy, i dont use or plan to use the carrack for exploration (primarely) i use it as a fast cargo runner, more in the role of a blockade runner, it has a ton of shields, it has a large cargo capacity, its one of the fastest ships for its size, it has very long range, its gonna have good sensors and it has decent firepower, a good medical facility, drones and a small hangar. for this ship to beat the carrack in what i use it the firepower advantage is certainly there, shields from what i heard its gonna be less strong with only 1 size 3 vs the carrack's 2, cargo capacity is higher on this one tho this ship seems less flexible, we dont know yet what kind of on board med facilities it will have but given exploration does not seem to be the ship's priority way less diverse systems may be present, in the end coming down to more focused on one role and firepower vs the jack of most trades of the carrack
aye, after watching ISC it looks to lack a common med bed, and be very much as you say, focus on doing one specific thing well at a time, vs do everything at once "okay"
This is a holo model pulled from the game files themselves, so i'd be very shocked if it didn't. Also, the Cutter and C8R are both in the game as flyable (just nobody owns them so cant spawn them) so those "not coming out" ships are most certainly coming out :) Zyloh's comment was with regards to leaked internal slides, which having seen them, show a similar design to this, but with distinct differences
Though it is compared to the Carrack, this is no competitor...it will only be priced like a competitor to the Carrack, Odyssey etc. If you look at its expected stats, it is way more comparable to the Drake Caterpillar. According to what we know, the Galaxy will have better armament, Caterpiller double the S3 shield instead. Galaxy will get one module to have ~500+ SCU, Cat uses 4 + nose modules for a similar amount. We don't know what modules will be realized for the Cat, but chop shop, and medical are very likely. Currently, I deem the Caterpillar the better ship. Better coverage, more options to equip module variations, lesser crew, escape shuttle, smaller crossection, better shield...
Aye in hindsight, the cat may have been the better comparison, but I'll be completely honest in that I forgot the cat was meant to be Modular! It's so rarely mentioned that it completely slipped my mind
Im guessing 4x /s6 omnies on the outer turrets, and 2x s5 on the nose. In terms of the ship itself, im not feeling it.. That may ofc change but then again, i own a $750 polaris jpeg, so... :s At least the brigde is in a proper place
Nose weapons are the same size, and they're deffo not S6's. i couldn't get an S5 imported - starfab being fucky with me today - but i scaled them manually (its a 1.5x size increase per weapon size) and they're almost certainly S5's. That also matches up with the leaked docs as well, so im doubly certain of it :) And aye, i have a polaris CCU in case i decide to chain to it. not sure if this would be any better!
Not sure if this is a troll video but the RSI Galaxy is not in production and will not be in production. It was a design pitch that was rejected in the form showed here. There may be a future design that uses some of this model but as of right now it is not a real ship.
That is incorrect. Everything I spoke of in this video was pulled from the game files, and was only available in the latest patch, including not only the model but also the ship data such as it's description. CIG don't add things like that for stuff not coming out, especially not in the proverbial 11th hour. Nothing I mentioned (barring the rumoured modules) was from the leaked internal slides, but from my own digging only (as a note, modularity is mentioned in the game files, as stated in the video) I did add a pinned comment for this, but the misconception is born from zylohs post, in which he was referring to the leaked slide. A lot of the ship is different from that leaked internal slide, which is why I didn't use any of that info
@@RobotSpartan 35m longer mate nah not at all ! You cant ignore over 30m and the Ody is also much wider and higher, it goes more in a Polaris direction
@@stepstv4466 aye but dont forget that 35m is literally just the dedicated hanger at the back. Remove that, and they''re similar sizes, that was my logic there. In terms of "player dedicated" internal space, they're the same. Also (something i forgot to mention in the video actually) because the modular section is just flat backed, you could extend it beyond the rear, meaning the galaxy could, theoretically, be as long or longer than the ody in some configurations Polaris we dont actually know the size of any more, though its expected around 170 (10% increase over the 155 original)
Carrack isn't even 90% finished. You know stuff will get changed once they figure out half the things they want that ship to do, it won't for ten more years.
I don't know...I like the design of the ship, kinda. The galaxy has a massive blind spot on the back side. so it would be way to easy to take out. I would need to see the specs and info on the modules to make a final decision. Also the early info dump stated something about 3 modules. I know that leak made Zyloh mad, rightfully so. But if it only has one module section then I am thinking this will be a hard pass for me. If it does have 3 modules it's a maybe. Price I think could be as low as 450 or so for the ship with only cargo module(s) as a default. I think if the leaked spec are correct it would put the cargo at about the size of a caterpillar. The other modules would cost additional money and price might range from 50 to 150 per module.
From my understanding, its 1 modular section, but 3 planned modules. That said, the interior is split into 3 (aft, mid, and fore) so it could be 2 or 3 at the same time. Impossible to speculate, but im assuming its 1 for now :) Actually raise a good point about pricing being based on the module its obtained with (sorta like the endeavour). Never considered that. Though with the size of it, i'd be very shocked to see it as low as 450
@@RobotSpartan yeah that is the problem with the leak and how it generates bad information. But looking at the Carrack it also has 3 modules right now all set to cargo pods. We will have to wait until the official reveal to get the info.
I tried to limit my Info from the leaks, and rely purely on what I could pull from the game itself, so there's not as much speculation/bad info in the video That said, I could forsee this being a bigger module but only 1, Vs carracks 3 smaller overall, but mix and match
I really hope whatever this ends up being, that's its not $700 lmao depending on what it is, I was gonna ccu from my msr, I love the shape of it and has enough room for my friends
@Robot Spartan I expected it to be more, for sure, depending on what they say about it, thought about melting the ole inferno for the credit and maybe something thing else, guess we will have to wait and see, also great video btw
The only ship you should have is a CCU Endeavour for like $200 USD. If you don't like it, then sell it in game for millions and buy any other ship. I plan to pick up 2 this sale.
Agreed on the endeavour. Its why i have one in my hanger, and one with a locked CCU. When that goes live, its price will rocket, so dirt cheap move to any cap you want
@@RobotSpartan no cap ship don't work that way. The Endeavor can go to $2000 USD but you will never be able to upgrade to a Javelin (not allowed - no option to do it). And if you melt your $2000 Endeavor, you will only get your original $200 as store credit. The biggest ship you can upgrade too, if not mistaken, is a Polaris. Even 890 sub-capital ship is lock from CCU chains. And as for selling it in-game... Yes the Endeavor will be worth millions but the base model may come up under an 890 jump or even military Carrack. So no chance to sell it in-game and think you will be able to buy even a Polaris with that money. In-game).
@@VICT0RLAZL0 ah of course, i forgot you cant CCU to the hull limited ships. Hopefully it will go up in chunks, like the BMM did so can at least get a cheap swap to a carrack or polaris etc
the kililing of the carrack is as the killing of the pc ... it was told a lot of time and by different enemies ...dont misunderstand me, i like the concept of an large RSI ship very much but i dont think anything will kill MY carrack :-D
All about frame of reference I guess? Only a handful of ships breach the 100m mark overall (6 in game atm) so this is up there with the biggest On the flip side, the Polaris is positively tiny compared to the jav, let alone the Bengal or retribution
$700?!! Carrack is $600. Would you pay $600 for Carrack without Drones, Garage, Repair, 3x droppable modules? I doubt it. Galaxy could be $700 if it includes all proposed modules in a Master pack. Base hull+cargo more like $450. I guess we will find out on RSI day whether Cargo adds 512scu or 480scu bringing total to 512scu.
@@RobotSpartan The overpriced Ody was a marketing Oddity that pulled major $$$ all up front leaving pretty much no room for price increase at launch. Mining and a huge Hangar sold it. A better comparison for Galaxy is Caterpillar. Galaxy gets one huge module compared to multiple small modules. Both likely must be fit/unfit in station. Bigger guns will up price on Galaxy. Galaxy may be a hint at modules to come for Cat and Carrack. Carrack owners can buy multiple modules and drop them where they like.
Might have a point on the cat actually, something I didn't consider at all. Honestly forgot it was meant to be Modular as it's been the "go to cargo runner" for such a long time now
I really like the idea of this one being a industrial focus, dont really care for the carrack, the odyssey was a step in this direction. But the galaxy seems like the ship for me, could also use a repair/refuel/rearm module
Aye the more industrial focus I think gives it a broader appeal. For me the end goal is science and medical (with some Merc work on the side) so the carrack never quite sung to me, but with the right options this could
Interesting video but that Title picture and calling it Carrack Killer is pretty clickbaity. The Carrack has medbay, hanger, garage, drones, repair shop, scanning room without any module. Still the ship is quite big and we know very litte about what that size is used for but from what we know so far it does not even compete with the Carrack.
I'll hold my hands up on the clickbait thumbnail, though at least I had the decency to actually relate it to the video and be relevant! And aye, the galaxy does have a rather large amount of space even without the modules, so I'd expect it to feature SOME of those things, but we won't know for a couple weeks
Another ship no one will use. I wish people would stop and think before buying these ships, they are less than useless without a large very organised crew. People that solo the carrack will get a shock to the system when cargo refactor and resource management become a reality.
I wouldn't say NO-ONE will use; we use my friends carrack a fair bit, but thats as a group of 3-4 players. I do however think the vast majority wont have that organised crew as you say
Generally not a fan of 'leaked' ships. I made an exception for this YT. I heard the word 'Carrack' about 14 times. The only way the King will lose the title is when players stop talking about the Carrack. Which can't happen, as every large new ship is compared to the Carrack.
It's kind of a victim of its own success really. It's such a well rounded ship that its the thing everyone wants " their ship" to be. As a result, I don't think it's ever really going to happen, though I understand and somewhat share the sentiment
English wasn't great sadly, but i think i understand what you're saying. Wont spend money as you have an odyssey and this isn't worth replacing it, but worth getting in game?
modularity is what i am most interested in. if its oh here you go three different variants that are each 500 to 600 each. no thanks period end of story.
@@RobotSpartan 2 weeks to go? For the Q&A? idk? maybe so. IAE starts tomorrow! Of course we will have to wait for RSI day before we see what they have in store for us on the Galaxy. I am not expecting a ship but we will see a concept segment for sure and I am also expecting to see a hollo viewer.
@@RobotSpartan I meant by that comment that I would never recommend anyone to buy this vessel. Of course for that price it is interesting but i just think it is not worth it p.s. I have to compliment you on how you show the ships. I like it
@@scozzese5348 ah that makes sense now. Yeah i tend to suggest only buying starter ships, and never anything higher than a cutty or lancer if you want something bigger, then stopping and thanks :)
Hopefully you'll still be alive by the time the BMM makes it into the PU. I've put the brakes on buying concepts, like the SanTok, and BMM due to the fact that CIG is notorious for releasing stuff concepted, and designed after, and leaving those that invested in things like the BMM wanting, and seething.
Just to note because many have said it: Zylos comment about an old concept not being released is NOT applicable here. This was pulled directly from the game files in the latest PTU patch. It also has it's own slot in the RSI halls holo viewers, as well as a full description within the game files (thats how we know its modular for example)
CIG wouldn't add those newly into the latest PTU for something they aren't releasing ;)
If you watch the new day five video or IAE, they hint RSI messed up on having a prototype ready to show. Maybe the galaxy?
@@danieljung2810 they outright say "the RSI galaxy prototype didn't show". ooooh, CIG pulling the plug at the last second maybe?
Wonderfully put together video! Loved the mix of solid speculation and known data.
RSI's design language recently has been absolutely beautiful. This ship is definitely a threat to my wallet.
Thanks, that makes me happy to hear especially with this being unscripted (though i did do like 5 takes 😅)
Agreed on the design style for RSI. I used to hate the looks, but the "modern" style is growing on me quick
if i remember correctly i think i once put an avenger on a carracks hangar, it fit tightly but it wasnt any cheesy glitchy thing, it fit 100%, that might be an advantage for the carrack over the galaxy
Aren't the vertical stabilisers too high to close the hanger bay doors?
The RSI Galaxy is a multirole ship so it is not a Carrack killer. The Carrack was never intended to be a multirole ship, it is an exploration ship with modules specialized in scientific exploration only!
I think that was the carracks intent yes, but I would argue that it sorta ended up being a jack of all trades accidentally. Its almost as good as the cat for cargo. It's fairly good in combat. Can carry near every vehicle (including fleets of ROC). I think that's why it's so popular - no matter your need it can fill it
@@RobotSpartan the term Carrack killer was just a troll that every Carrack-fan took seriously and it pops up stupidly with every big concept ship is reveal !
Yeah... But that DOES make it sorta funny to be fair
Great video. I don't think it will be a carrack killer but will be interesting to see them side by side with a full spec comparison when it's available. I think it will probably be something in between the 600i and a carrack for that kind of size competitor. The carrack has 3 modules so overall you could have the best of 3 completely different modules of youre choosing. This has 1 but it may still offer a slightly different functionality yet in terms of exploration. Combat wise I think you would need fighters to watch this things 6, so maybe the larger option would be better purely from a defensive standpoint. But we will see!
thanks
On the size, its actually almost identical to the carrack, only 10m smaller in each direction (and the carrack is very tall when landed) which is what spurred the comparison as opposed to the 600 (which this sits quite far above size wise)
Aye the carrack being able to mix and match (but likely with lower tier stuff) could make it the overall winner in a lot of eyes. Am curious for sure
Oh yeah so it is basically carrack sized then haha. That's pretty exciting! And yeah with it being actually the same size as the carrack, I agree with you way more. For some reason I was under the impression it was still alot smaller than that compared to the carrack. But yeah this will be very interesting. Thanks for you're video and you're time dude 😀
Aye, I wish I hadn't had problems importing the carrack as it would have made way more sense than a Hammerhead 😔
in 30 years when the ship comes out we can all look back fondly on this video. Well those of us still around anyway. :)
Did you follow the leaks? Obviously not, because that ship is in active development and stated for a release for pyro.
I love your optimism my friend
meh, my future grandkids can at least fly it :P
Why are you saying 30 years?
@@srick77373 sorry, typo, i mean 40 years
Great video! I am a giant nerd so I put down a huge comparison for my own purposese comparing my perfect “Pyro ship”. Honestly though, as awesome as this ship looks, there’s a lot that would keep it from being a “Carrack Killer”
1) If the hangar doesn’t allow for a larger ship than the Carrack’s does, it provides no extra value compared to the Carrack
2) The Carrack provides respawning, garage space, large cargo space, workbench, drones, AND dedicated exploration equipment all at the same time. This ship sounds like it would only provide one of those things at a time, and may not even have all of those capabilities.
Don't forget the Carrack has 2 different long range scanners, can map jump points with its array and has 3 modular drop pods each big enough to work as a garage with the cargo pods alone or as landing bays for a swarm of Merlins, add to that its guns have great all around coverage.
Agree with both points there. It seems to me that the carrack is going for the jack of all trades, whereas this is going for a "choose a focus and specialise". Of course, there could be some balance to it, who knows
@@rooster1012 I'm hoping there's a refining module eventually, would be the cherry on top wouldn't it?
For the carrack? The galaxy is supposedly going to have a refining module
@@RobotSpartan Yeah for the Carrack, would complete it's capabilities.
YESSS, another arrow shaped ship, lately the ships silouettes look awsome
was unsure at first, but not gonna lie the dorito shapes growing on me for sure
CIG seems to moving towards ramps for big ships that then internally lead to a cargo storage area so hopefully it'll get a decent sized hold
I had noticed that re. The ramps, but I think that's the right way to go
As said in the video, apparently the default is only 32, but it can slap a big hold on the back if needed
i feel like once the 600i gets reworked, it will also become a competitor into the large explorer segment. So that gives us the Carrack, Galaxy, Oddyssey, and now the 600i. Now all we need is a Drake competitor
600i is in a weird "in between" space imo, sort of a stepping stone from the connie to the carrack.
Oddly, 400i is in that same boat, as a stepping stone from the lancer to the connie
A proper drake sub cap would be pretty sweet though!
@@RobotSpartan I lean more towards agreeing with iCore. Once the rework is in the MAIN advantage the Carrack offers over the 600i the hangar, but the Carrack hangar is extremely limited. Otherwise though the 600i offers many of the same benefits in a more solo-friendly package.
Odyssey is a capital ship.
@@jeremyj5932 Ody is the same size as the carrack, so larger "large", or a "sub capital". It MIGHT have a capital component i forget, but thats not a good measure of a ships size stat (i.e. the conny and corsair have S3 shields but are medium ships)
@@stoneguard Dont forget the rework wont change anything externally on the 600i (well, baring maybe ramp location), so it will still be a fair bit smaller and more agile than the carrack, and likely with less capacity.
This is why i say its more a stepping stone from the conny to the carrack. Connie you can solo quite easily. Carrack NEEDS a group. 600i benifits but can be pushed solo
I am hoping they are going to go the Endeavor route. A main ship priced somewhere between $500 - $600 and sell the models separately. So, for example, a medical Galaxy may be a $650 ship but it would consist of $500 ship and a $150 module. Then they could sell a combo (Ship + 3 Modules for a "discount" of $900)
I suspect thats exactly what they will do
Carrack is a very different ship dedicated to exploration and especially wormholes with extra mofules thst csn be droped off on planets and used separatelyfrom the ship. Also got a snub bay xs size not xxs ( bike size) have internal modules not drop variants. No drones and no wormhole scanning futures or solar system.wide scans like carrack has. They are teo diffrent types of ship. One exploration and scanning dedicated best of it's class. The other a civilian ship thst can be changed with modules to be very good different tasks.
The snub bay is classed as XXS on the carrack; XS is things like the aurora which the carrack cannot fit. floor space its XS, but height its XXS, just one of those weird edge cases
But agreed, i think they're going to play to different styles, though i dont doubt there are some for whom the carrack wasn't for wormhole scanning but a "do everything ship" so this might sell them on a switch
When Crusader decides to make an exploration ship that has: a snub, a rover, drones, S0/S2 component repair, medbay, armory, charting station, and 3 modular compartments it can change up, then we will have a "Carrack killer".
Why specifically crusader?
A bit of a note, but the Carrack's hangar can comfortably fit an Aurora LN, so if the Galaxy has one of like size, you could conceivably carry an Aurora in it unless it's oddly shaped in some way.
That said, the Galaxy doesn't need a hangar for me to already be in love with it.
Officially it doesn't (should have been explicit). I've managed to fit two Razors in the carrack before to be fair
The Carrack has a medical bay, huge cargo, modularity for the cargo bays, drone bays, small 3d printer workshop and the same size hanger. I mean maybe an internal refinery would make it stand apart, but I don't see a reason why you would choose a medical or cargo modual when the Carrack already has both. I might be interested if they had a much, much larger hangar bay module. Hangar bays, if you can spawn ships in it, basically gives you faster modularity by just placing specific ships inside. i.e., Cutless Red gives you more medical beds, Prospector gives you mining abilities, Scorpion gives you more weapons support, Hull A/B gives you more cargo.
So, cargo module would just make it akin to the carrack, albeit as you say without the other benifits the carrack has.
Medical i would assume allows for multiple tier 1 or 2 beds, vs the carracks single T2 (and those drop pods are likely to not have medical because imagine doing surgery in a container!!)
Oddly enough, from your "i might be interested" you described the odyssey 😅
@@RobotSpartan I bought the Odyssey. ;)
I had a sneaking suspicion you might have 😋
One day, I would like for there to be multiple ships that fill the same role instead of always going to one ship for one job.
We do have that at the smaller end - cutty and lancer, arrow and gladius, etc. But we do need more of it agreed
First we need server meshing, multiple star systems, ingame races and their fleshed out worlds etc
To be fair, those things can be added simultaneously, as they're not directly impacting each others implementation.
Also, races are in 3.18! Finally my P72 can see some use...
@@RobotSpartan good! But will they also be set on some dope planets? Or just space?
I want to race trough pandora and that city planet seen on one of the racing maps
There was an ISC a couple weeks back dedicated to them, but they're all planet side 🙂
no, not a Carrack killer. Similar size, totally different use.
Modular, military explorer vs. modular, civilian industry.
Carrack is long range military exploitation. This seems like a midrange explorer. I like it. I do wish it had a hangar. I don’t I known why everyone thinks ship having hangar make them OP. They just make way more sense for ships this size.
@@Shawnsrumi I hope it'll be a module in the future for sure
@@versegen2 I’m hoping is maybe a faster more agile explorer. I think it will be the standard size and utility of a corvette class ship.
A module at the back for a hanger could be a good one to include, certainly big enough
And aye verse, i think you've got it nailed
@@RobotSpartan o7
That doesn't sound like that big of a ship when you consider that the Corsair can fit an Ursa and Dragonfly easily at once or you can fit a Merlin inside on it's own.
Size of a cargo bay is misleading when using it to compare ship sizes.
Consider that a Hammerhead can only just manage an Ursa but is near double the size of a Corsair for example. A lot of space is often times be dedicated to other things, so it's more important to look at the whole package rather than focus on a singular element
Some thoughts on this subject. They'll need to put tier 2 medical beds on all variants and tier 1 in the medical module to be a real contender for the Carrack. The weapon configuration is strange, the weapons are too small to engage capital ships and it will likely be no very nimble to outmaneuver smaller ships. I don't see how it will be able to defend itself having no dedicated weapons with large firing arcs against fighters. Too little info to write it off but I'll wait for active development before considering to upgrade from the Carrack.
Agreed regarding the med bed. At least a simple crew bay.
On the weapons, it's actually slightly ahead of the carrack DPS wise. I can forsee this functioning similar in that regard - missiles to ward off the small fighters, armour to ignore their shots, turrets deal with medium threats. Although that's of course lord knows when!
RSI is really feeling out their fleet roles almost perfectly. I could totally see the Galaxy as the leading ship to a fleet of Polaris, and Perseus. All they need a is a mid/light fighter and they will really offer a odd multi roll styled fleet range.
I think thats the goal with RSI to be honest, sorta be the rolls royce. Want a luxury car? Yeah we make that. Need an engine for your military jet? We got that too!
I am kind of interested. I have thought about the ship as a Carrack compeditor. But before deciding i would like to see more of it during IAE. The module isn't much different from the Carracks cargo pods, but what does the rest of the ship really offer.
The style on the other hand..... it looks really, really reeeeeeeally good.
As a Carrack size ship and depending on what else it got, i would say the price being closer to the 600$ mark than the 700$ mark. But maybe it exceeds that becaus3 of modules.
One thing the carrack does have is that each of the 3 bays are separate, meaning you can mix and match. Though i dont see the carrack being a dedicated field hospital or refinery!
As for the price, my logic was based on the ody price being higher, which im fairly certain CIG did to get some carrack owners to CCU. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same here is my line of thinking :)
@@RobotSpartan As far as i have understand it, the base Galaxy has 32 SCU and can up that to a total of 512 SCU if all cargo modules are installed. That would mean: 512 - 32 = 480 SCU. And "all cargo modules" means more than 2. So 480 ÷ 3 = 160 SCU each. Sounds logical.
The Odyssey was more expensive than the Carrack because its the larger ship which also has Capital shields. The RSI Galaxy seems to be smaller and offers less functionality (for right now) so why would it be a higher pledge?
Ah it ups it to 512? That's a misinterpretation on my part.
Interesting understanding of the wording there. Could be a quirk of the writers choice of words of course, we will have to see
The ody isn't that much larger than the carrack. 140m Vs 127m long, and 90m vs 77m wide, most of that being due to the hanger. In terms of "useable space" they're extremely comparible. Shields sizes are irrelevant nowadays too (Conny, Corsair, redeemer, defender....)
I don't think the ody was 700 because it's slightly bigger, I think it was 700 because cig wanted to tempt carrack owners to CCU and felt $100 was the perfect balance between numbers tempted and cost.
The galaxy is only slightly smaller than the carrack at 115m long, and depending on internal layout will probably have a similar "useable space", and I don't doubt cig will use it's modularity to tempt people away from the carrack again, which means it has to cost at least a penny more
Maybe I'm just being cynical here I dunno 🤷♂️
@@RobotSpartan maybe. And people always that the CCU game or the melting gane is of any interest at CIG. Not that they would like to get more fresh money.
I am not sure if the way you think the people over at CIG make their startegy for their funding model.
And yes, shields, size and functionality do matter. The Odyssey has a standart small hangar, capital shields and can make its own quantum fuel.
So in order to ask for a pledge price above 600, the Galaxy would need a bit more functionality than the Carrack. Because the Carrack has modularity too. And looking at the leaked specs of the galaxy (no hangar or vehicle bay for a rover) and that its quiet a bit smaller (seems like a lot of fluff wing panelling) it seems that the Odyssey is the bigger one, the Carrack the middle one and the Galaxy the smaller one of those ships.
But i guess we'll find out very soon.
I find it funny how after all these years, people are still surprised by consistent weapon placement:
RSI's weapons face mostly forwards, Aegis has turrets like a porcupine, Origin has at least one strong turret at the rear, Drake's face sideways. Anvil has turrets anywhere +strong armor.
Well, too bad I already have a Polaris.
See, i noticed it with origin, but honestly? never noticed it with RSI. Dont know how i missed that! 😅
RSI ships usually come with missles, so it's also likely that this ship has a missle bay to supplement it's turrets. I wouldn't expect it to come with a full armament of torpedoes like the Perseus, but should at have a dozen size 3's.
@@freezedriedicecream i did mention its likely to have an array of them. launcher tubes are usually easy to spot, and i THINK i found some under the nose, but they could be retros. As you say though, RSI ships like their missiles so i'd expect many
It needs a hangar that can fit a ship the size of a pisces to be a carrack killer.
Pisces is pretty small, and there is enough space to fit an XXS hanger (what the carrack has). Whether it has one or not is yet to be seen, but it's certainly possible. That said, a valid argument
Thanks for the preview mate. In Max hit Z if you zoom too far from the model also could you briefly show us the wireframe by pressing F4, cheers
I did hit Z, but because i didn't have anything selected it wouldn't snap. then i brain farted and didn't think to just select something from the left browser 😂
This is why i rarely do anything unscripted
Wireframe looks an absolute mess on this model, so it seemed better to not at the time, though i will think to include it in the future :)
@@RobotSpartan interesting, it should work without anything selected too. No worries mate still did a good job. I've used a few from the holo viewer and yeah a total mess. Thanks for the content and keep it up!
@@TomH3D I think i need to update max to be honest, getting all sorts of weirdness (still on 22.1, didn't bother upgrading to .3)
And i shall endeavour to do so :)
awesome video! im just really hoping the galaxy will be able to do some sort of combat, then i'd have my perfect ship
6 size 5's on the remote turrets will certainly do some hurt, though I found zero pilot controlled weapons sadly.
A combat module adding some extra dakka could be a good add though
I'm guessing a bit lower since it's the original concept sale: 550 WB and 750 WB for a potential "master set" with all modules. But i'm probably waay off xD
aye in hind sight thats more likely. something for carrack/ody owners to CCU from, but something lower to lure in those without
I'm looking forward to seeing this ship. I don't really care for how the Carrack turned out (unpopular opinion, I know), and this looks like a very interesting possibly alternative for me. I just wish RSI day wasn't toward the end of the sale, it's going to be a tough wait :)
Thanks for the video!
aye i'll be keeping my eye on this. The carrack never interested me, but this could be that "large large" ship i'm missing. That or the polaris
@@RobotSpartan I like the look of the Perseus better myself, but the Polaris could still turn out to be a beast as well :)
@@masterskilhollow Polaris won out for me purely on the basis it has hanger and med bay :)
Agree on the carrack look...vastly prefer the original concept with the angular engines
The carrack is ok but not great. It really needs a rework top to bottom to fix all the glaring issues. I'm really not a fan of the 3 cargo pods underneath it. That should be one single unit as those cargo pods are useless for anything other than standard cargo imo. I'm interested to see how the 600i rework goes and whether they consider a carrack rework as it's a good base to work from at least.
Oooh-- I cant wait!! I want more ships with a ship inside of it!!
pocket carriers are great to have imo.
"oh you're attacking me with a fighter fleet, here have a fighter back at you"
Oh cool the python is finally being added from elite dangerous!
Damn it! I made that joke in the first take and forgot to do so in the one I ended up using....
Just as the Anvil Carrack can fit an Anvil Pisces, I would hope that in a similar, logical tradition the RSI Galaxy would fit an RSI Scorpius or Aurora. Most of the RSI ships either in-game or concept are medium and large ships. The Scorpius and the Aurora are the only smaller ships available. I wouldn't mind if the Galaxy's ability to hold a ship the size of a Scorpius turned out to be its niche. A lot of unknowns here though. I would assume it must come with a med-bed with respawn capabilities. With a name like Galaxy coupled with the fact that RSI is already developing warships, I would expect this to be an exploration vessel.
Perhaps it's ability to carry a larger fighter would balance its inability to properly defend itself from the rear. Just a thought.
Looking at the images cig showed, no med bed I could see, but the hanger looks big enough to hold an aurora
I don't know much about the Galaxy, but I know I want one! 😆I hope we don't have to wait more than a year or 2 for it since it's already in production.
The exterior of the model is further along than some holo's i've seen, but i've also seen them further along. Based on its size? I'm thinking about a year
Until it's clarified where it's purpose is, I'm not sure if it's a Carrack competitor directly - at least not as an explorer.
If the module are as leaked (Refining, Transport, and Medical) plus the small hangar can hold a medical Pisces Rescue, it will have some interesting flexibility.
POSSIBLE USES:
A larger version of an Expanse, to handle more refining of ore.
A base medical ship, with maybe more than one Tier 2 bed with its own ambulance.
Or a transport ship for cargo, and/or if its like the new 600i EX reworked module, also be able to move much larger vehicles in the Atlas/Nova range with an added lift to the module.
All is speculation right now, I know, but the Carrack has features this may not, and the trade off of what appears to be one large module (600i, Galaxy) to several smaller ones (Caterpillar, Carrack) might make for intriguing debate.
Thats exactly the debate im hoping to incite! Just hopefully more civilised than with the ody last year :P
This has the potential to be a great ship. Imagine being able to play with a regular crew and do any task with one ship. Want to run cargo? Want to be a medic? Want to mine? BOOM. Stop by your base and Pick up the module for the current occupation
Pretty sure you just inadvertently quoted the design pitch for the ship 😂
You mean: "BOOM. Stop by your base and Pick up the module for the current occupation AND WAIT 2 DAYS FOR MODIFICATION" :D
I mean, artica isn't wrong....
@@arcticaprime hopefully it has a quick disconnect like a trailer
It looks alot like an ED Python with a rear end modification... I like it... I think that modifying ship designs from other games and sci-fi genres is a great idea... 🙂
Possible the concept artist was the same person, as cig outsource a lot of the ship designs 🙂
Nice to have a multirole ship with a big module from RSI.
Modularity is a big draw for me personally (it's why I own a talli and endeavour) so this could be interesting for sure
@@RobotSpartan Yeah I agree modules could really make great options. Other ships including the Carrack have modules
@@Max_Flashheart indeed, though we know very little as to what said modules will be
I'm hoping that it has a medbed already and you don't need a full medical module for one bed. Since it's competing with the carrack... larger constellation? yes please....
there is a lot of space inside so it might well do. be odd to not at least have a T2
@@RobotSpartan that's my thoughts as well... I've been wanting an rsi carrack sized ship, the constellation just isn't big enough... but this has larger cargo and modularity will be awesome if you can quick swap the module to turn it into a medical ship too
I'm really hoping it's the surprise ship for 3.18 !
@@XeroCreator only a week to wait! I imagine we'll hear about it in the next ISC, if not some rumblings on today's SCL
Be interesting to see what the loaner ship will be, Carrack anyone? Been CCUing towards Carrack, this could change things looking forward RSI day!
The odyssey loaner is a carrack plus reliant, so i'd say maybe carrack and aurora? Hard to say
And aye, i have a half finished CCU chain to the polaris, but this could be more my fit. Save me money too
It's all about the modules and crew accommodations. If it can run an exploration module with good scanners and extended fuel range, or a module with a medium ship bay, I may CCU my odyssey. If the crew accommodations are just bunks in a single room, no thanks. Anything less and I'll just view it as another pretty RSI design I probably won't worry about following further, like every other RSI to date.
Good mind set i'd say
890jump was said to be an exploration ship
890 is a different kettle of fish really, more for touring then for exploring
@@RobotSpartan 890 jump was sold as exploration ship that is on the 890 jump features in its advertising peroid. Exploration is all over their advertising for this ship.
@@RobotSpartan you shouldn't talk about ships you don't own or have not spent money. Even inforunners needed back track on calling the 890 jump just touring ship.
Ignoring for a moment that you don't know what my fleet consists of; Just because I haven't spent a stupid amount IRL on a ship, doesn't mean I can't talk about it. That's a very poor standing to take, and a very dangerous one.
That aside, I didn't say it CAN'T explore, I said it's more for touring. There's a reason I make that distinction, least of all that CIG themselves consider it a luxury touring vessel and in no media refer to it as an explorer (barring one line in the pdf brochure, which actually is just referencing it's sensors "never missing a thing")
Touring is a part of exploration, which itself is an unimaginably broad category. Searching for a minable cluster of asteroids is exploration. Finding jump points is exploration. Finding pretty sights (touring) is exploration. The 890 wasnt designed for all of them, nor does it have the equipment for them. So whilst it is indeed an exploration vessel, it's one with a specific focus in mind. Calling it an exploration vessel is therefore far too broad a descriptor
(As a note - I've owned an 890 in game for probably a total of a year all in all. I even have a video on it if my word isn't enough)
@@RobotSpartan then go head please list all your ships you have. I proof the 890 jump was sold as exploration ship. I bought the 890 jump from day one. I have many people that agree with me including yatchclub.
Hoping it will leave exploration alone. My guess is that it'll stay more toward industrial stuff with, cargo, refueling, medical, and weapons. Though what the weapons is I wouldn't know.
Hmm, a combat module could be quite interesting actually. theres enough space to add more guns and turrets, and with the back being an "empty slate", they dont even have to be squared off
CIG already stated this ship will not be released and was a prototyping concept. See Zyloh's response.
Zylos response was with regards to the old leaked documents. This was pulled from the latest game files as a holoviewer. It also has a dedicated slot in the IAE halls, so i'd be extremely surprised to see it not be released
@@RobotSpartan I was misinformed then sorry!
Not your fault at all, it's a reasonable thought given information available 🙂
Nothing that isn't flight ready is a carrack killer. It's not even an argo cargo killer If you can't fly it.
That... is actually a very good point!
It will be different to the Carrack, just as for example the 400i is to the Connie. There’s no point CIG producing the same ships with different brands, so one good aspect is they like to have different functionality, strengths and weaknesses.
The Carrack is for exploration. While this looks to be similar size, I expect it will have a different focus and purpose. Personally I love the Carrack and it remains currently the best ship live in the game, hence it rightly winning a second ship showdown.
Solid points all around
Hi there, interesting Video. Nicely done. Answer to your question: will it be better than the Carrack? No. Long answer: Carrack is specialised in Wormhole Exploration and dabbles in Search & rescue and cargo hauling (modules are planned however) Odyssey is dedicated to longterm independent exploration and dabbling in all sorts of mission types sacrificing the dedicated scanners and antennas for wormhole exploration, but gaining its mining and refining capabilities (these will only benefit itself however) and the Galaxy will be specialising in different tasks (only one at a time, depending on the module installed) like cargo transport, search & rescue or refuelling/rearming. These are my thoughts, however they are based on the ship descriptions and everything the developers had to say about the before mentioned ships over the years. If anything the Galaxy is supposed to look like the superior ship for the upcoming sales, no illusions there. I think the Carrack is too popular, they have to find ways that there won ˋt be thousands of Carracks upon release in the verse.
I love the design of the Galaxy. I ´d like one myself. But I wouldn ´t get a Galaxy for exploration based on the little we currently know.
Really good point you made by the way with the position of the bridge btw. The huge blind spot in the rear i noticed right away though. It won ´t be very effective against fighters. But it will be a threat to ships of the Connie- and Carrack-Classes.
thanks :)
I'd say based on your reply, you have the same mindset as me? carrack is the jack of all trades, on top of specialising in wormhole scanning. Ody is the jack of all trades on top of being able to refuel itself on the fly. Galaxy looks to be a master of one selected task, making it better where theres a singular goal (S&R, Hauling, etc) but has limited flexibility where the situation calls for it?
@@RobotSpartan it wasn’t clear in the video, but now it is - yes ✌🏻
Every king needs a pretender. I think you meant contender
o7 great video though looking forward to this 'pretender' to the Carrack's throne
That or usurper. My brain broke (that's why I paused 🤣)
How does it compare size wise to the perseus? So it is not that bigger than the hammerhead?
perseus is just a smidge smaller than the HH, so ball park the same as this really
Not a Carrack killer, but will give it some competition. Has an extra SCU for cargo holding than the Carrack
Agreed. But emotive words spark debate after all :)
It’s like a Polaris and a javelin had a baby
huh, now you say it, the back does look like a javs snoot...
Carrack size?, the ship is smaller than the Hammerhead in the render, or are the ships in different scales ?
Only slightly smaller than the HH (5m). I think i had them offset slighly which might have thrown perspective
I love my Carrack, but if this is going to be something that I can CCU from the Carrack to, then I'm 100% going to do that! I love medical gameplay and with the upcoming release of the C8R, Having this with a medical module will be fantastic!
One of the arguments I heard (I think info runners) for it maybe having a small hanger is for the C8R, and that the C8R itself may well exist because of this. which does make sense, as this then becomes a very viable field hospital
I really hope that’s the reason!! I love RSI ships, and I have an Apollo, but for a mobile hospital this thing sounds amazing!! I’m really looking forward to hearing more about it come RSI day!
I don’t understand how it replaces the Carrack, the Carrack is an explorer this new ship isn’t 🤯
No you’re right, but we don’t know for sure what this ship will do and the potential for a modular carrack sized RSI ship is something I’m looking forward to more than having a Carrack. Plus my buddy has a Carrack so I still won’t be missing much.
@@RoswellCrash As Dean said, we don't know for sure, especially with it being modular as that gives it essentially unlimited capabilities
Very nice review, thanks. For sure competitor to Carrack but not Carrack killer.
Aye, it wont kill the king. I don't think anything can do that 🤣
I would think a ship of this size would have medical, refining, and storage. Not "choose one".
I'd expect at minimum a crew med bay. But that said, the carrack and cat are much in the same boat in theory. If you replace the cargo bays with other modules, you lose the storage etc
The Question is how many Doors will be there in this Ship to reach the Cockpit?
Its not crusader, so I'd say only 5 but they actually open before you get to them 😉
i am thinking about upgrading my carrack to the galaxy, i dont use or plan to use the carrack for exploration (primarely) i use it as a fast cargo runner, more in the role of a blockade runner, it has a ton of shields, it has a large cargo capacity, its one of the fastest ships for its size, it has very long range, its gonna have good sensors and it has decent firepower, a good medical facility, drones and a small hangar. for this ship to beat the carrack in what i use it the firepower advantage is certainly there, shields from what i heard its gonna be less strong with only 1 size 3 vs the carrack's 2, cargo capacity is higher on this one tho this ship seems less flexible, we dont know yet what kind of on board med facilities it will have but given exploration does not seem to be the ship's priority way less diverse systems may be present, in the end coming down to more focused on one role and firepower vs the jack of most trades of the carrack
aye, after watching ISC it looks to lack a common med bed, and be very much as you say, focus on doing one specific thing well at a time, vs do everything at once "okay"
Do we know that this will be in-game, or is this speculation? I thought CIG put out a post saying that things were leaked that were not coming out.
This is a holo model pulled from the game files themselves, so i'd be very shocked if it didn't.
Also, the Cutter and C8R are both in the game as flyable (just nobody owns them so cant spawn them) so those "not coming out" ships are most certainly coming out :)
Zyloh's comment was with regards to leaked internal slides, which having seen them, show a similar design to this, but with distinct differences
Though it is compared to the Carrack, this is no competitor...it will only be priced like a competitor to the Carrack, Odyssey etc.
If you look at its expected stats, it is way more comparable to the Drake Caterpillar.
According to what we know, the Galaxy will have better armament, Caterpiller double the S3 shield instead.
Galaxy will get one module to have ~500+ SCU, Cat uses 4 + nose modules for a similar amount.
We don't know what modules will be realized for the Cat, but chop shop, and medical are very likely.
Currently, I deem the Caterpillar the better ship. Better coverage, more options to equip module variations, lesser crew, escape shuttle, smaller crossection, better shield...
Aye in hindsight, the cat may have been the better comparison, but I'll be completely honest in that I forgot the cat was meant to be Modular! It's so rarely mentioned that it completely slipped my mind
@@RobotSpartan Not only yours.
Awesome video
thanks :D
Im guessing 4x /s6 omnies on the outer turrets, and 2x s5 on the nose. In terms of the ship itself, im not feeling it.. That may ofc change but then again, i own a $750 polaris jpeg, so... :s At least the brigde is in a proper place
Nose weapons are the same size, and they're deffo not S6's. i couldn't get an S5 imported - starfab being fucky with me today - but i scaled them manually (its a 1.5x size increase per weapon size) and they're almost certainly S5's. That also matches up with the leaked docs as well, so im doubly certain of it :)
And aye, i have a polaris CCU in case i decide to chain to it. not sure if this would be any better!
Odd question, but did CIG threaten everyone from talking about this ship because there has been zero new videos.
Nothing has been said to me 🤷♂️
I think the speculation phase has come and gone, and everyone is just waiting on the information phase
I would love to see them add… the ships they already sold us years ago!!! Instead of selling more future designs!
Them ship artists gotta earn their pay 😜
But aye agreed, wish they would focus on current stuff. Though i THINK it's mostly caps now?
Not sure if this is a troll video but the RSI Galaxy is not in production and will not be in production. It was a design pitch that was rejected in the form showed here. There may be a future design that uses some of this model but as of right now it is not a real ship.
That is incorrect.
Everything I spoke of in this video was pulled from the game files, and was only available in the latest patch, including not only the model but also the ship data such as it's description. CIG don't add things like that for stuff not coming out, especially not in the proverbial 11th hour. Nothing I mentioned (barring the rumoured modules) was from the leaked internal slides, but from my own digging only (as a note, modularity is mentioned in the game files, as stated in the video)
I did add a pinned comment for this, but the misconception is born from zylohs post, in which he was referring to the leaked slide. A lot of the ship is different from that leaked internal slide, which is why I didn't use any of that info
Should be no more than 600, almost 2 weeks until we find out.
If only because CIG will want to snag some carrack owners, i doubt it will match in price. But maybe thats just my cynicism talking ;)
I mean the Odyssey is a much bigger size I think and has S5 turrets so thats a big one
Ody isn't much bigger (if at all) than the carrack is it? This is a few m smaller in each direction than the carrack is, that i know as fact
@@RobotSpartan 140m. How long is the Galaxy ?
Galaxy is 115m. Carrack is 127. Ody is 140, though that's due to the full sized hanger
Pretty comparable I'd say
@@RobotSpartan 35m longer mate nah not at all ! You cant ignore over 30m and the Ody is also much wider and higher, it goes more in a Polaris direction
@@stepstv4466 aye but dont forget that 35m is literally just the dedicated hanger at the back. Remove that, and they''re similar sizes, that was my logic there.
In terms of "player dedicated" internal space, they're the same.
Also (something i forgot to mention in the video actually) because the modular section is just flat backed, you could extend it beyond the rear, meaning the galaxy could, theoretically, be as long or longer than the ody in some configurations
Polaris we dont actually know the size of any more, though its expected around 170 (10% increase over the 155 original)
No snub hanger.
Nothing is confirmed just yet, but its possible aye. I did say it was speculation :)
Carrack isn't even 90% finished. You know stuff will get changed once they figure out half the things they want that ship to do, it won't for ten more years.
This is very true, even the carrack is a lot of speculation, so we can only judge based on its current capabilities, which is what the majority do 🙂
Howd you view these models? CryEngineSDK?
Export them from the game files using starfab, then import them into 3ds max
@@RobotSpartan My thanks kind sir! Got a link or a pointer towards starfab?
@@RobotSpartan Got it, nvm
@@RaylaRayV Ah nice one - sorry i didn't reply right away i was at the pub :)
I don't know...I like the design of the ship, kinda. The galaxy has a massive blind spot on the back side. so it would be way to easy to take out. I would need to see the specs and info on the modules to make a final decision. Also the early info dump stated something about 3 modules. I know that leak made Zyloh mad, rightfully so. But if it only has one module section then I am thinking this will be a hard pass for me. If it does have 3 modules it's a maybe. Price I think could be as low as 450 or so for the ship with only cargo module(s) as a default. I think if the leaked spec are correct it would put the cargo at about the size of a caterpillar. The other modules would cost additional money and price might range from 50 to 150 per module.
From my understanding, its 1 modular section, but 3 planned modules. That said, the interior is split into 3 (aft, mid, and fore) so it could be 2 or 3 at the same time. Impossible to speculate, but im assuming its 1 for now :)
Actually raise a good point about pricing being based on the module its obtained with (sorta like the endeavour). Never considered that. Though with the size of it, i'd be very shocked to see it as low as 450
@@RobotSpartan yeah that is the problem with the leak and how it generates bad information. But looking at the Carrack it also has 3 modules right now all set to cargo pods. We will have to wait until the official reveal to get the info.
I tried to limit my Info from the leaks, and rely purely on what I could pull from the game itself, so there's not as much speculation/bad info in the video
That said, I could forsee this being a bigger module but only 1, Vs carracks 3 smaller overall, but mix and match
Can’t wait to steal it 😅
Soft death is now a thing.......
OOOOH i wanna steal a carrack from someone
I really hope whatever this ends up being, that's its not $700 lmao depending on what it is, I was gonna ccu from my msr, I love the shape of it and has enough room for my friends
Will definitely be a lot more expensive than the MSR, as it's nearly double the size and with (in theory) a lot more functionality
@Robot Spartan I expected it to be more, for sure, depending on what they say about it, thought about melting the ole inferno for the credit and maybe something thing else, guess we will have to wait and see, also great video btw
@@BrohkN13 aye my Ion is very dangerously close to becoming a CCU chain fodder....
And thanks man :)
The only ship you should have is a CCU Endeavour for like $200 USD.
If you don't like it, then sell it in game for millions and buy any other ship.
I plan to pick up 2 this sale.
Agreed on the endeavour. Its why i have one in my hanger, and one with a locked CCU. When that goes live, its price will rocket, so dirt cheap move to any cap you want
@@RobotSpartan no cap ship don't work that way.
The Endeavor can go to $2000 USD but you will never be able to upgrade to a Javelin (not allowed - no option to do it).
And if you melt your $2000 Endeavor, you will only get your original $200 as store credit.
The biggest ship you can upgrade too, if not mistaken, is a Polaris.
Even 890 sub-capital ship is lock from CCU chains.
And as for selling it in-game...
Yes the Endeavor will be worth millions but the base model may come up under an 890 jump or even military Carrack.
So no chance to sell it in-game and think you will be able to buy even a Polaris with that money. In-game).
@@VICT0RLAZL0 ah of course, i forgot you cant CCU to the hull limited ships. Hopefully it will go up in chunks, like the BMM did so can at least get a cheap swap to a carrack or polaris etc
the kililing of the carrack is as the killing of the pc ... it was told a lot of time and by different enemies ...dont misunderstand me, i like the concept of an large RSI ship very much but i dont think anything will kill MY carrack :-D
I dunno, my talli might have something to say about killing your carrack 😉
@@RobotSpartan Noooooo :D
115 aite that big tbh... big is like the polaris at 155m! :D
All about frame of reference I guess? Only a handful of ships breach the 100m mark overall (6 in game atm) so this is up there with the biggest
On the flip side, the Polaris is positively tiny compared to the jav, let alone the Bengal or retribution
Seems undergunned for its size but we will see. Could be on purpose for its role.
Very much not undergunned. 6 size 5's is about 30% more DPS than 8 S4's, meaning this vastly out guns the carrack
There will never be a carrack killer :)
My talli would like to debate that statement 😉
I am thinking more of a Caterpillar killer.
aye, i completely forgot the cat is modular, otherwise would have more likely made that comparison :)
@@RobotSpartan we are all here for each other, buddy.
Tis what makes a community 🙂
Well the Corsair was a bit of a disappointment, hopefully the handling gets fixed
Not had a chance to mess with the corsair yet, though i understand it has some atmo issues?
I don't think this will be 700 in price that's way to high for it's size and what we get for it I can see it being 400-500 but nothing past 600
Its bigger than the perseus which was 675, so definitely not too high for its size
$700?!! Carrack is $600. Would you pay $600 for Carrack without Drones, Garage, Repair, 3x droppable modules? I doubt it.
Galaxy could be $700 if it includes all proposed modules in a Master pack.
Base hull+cargo more like $450.
I guess we will find out on RSI day whether Cargo adds 512scu or 480scu bringing total to 512scu.
Im basing that prediction purely on the fact the ody was at $700. i could, of course, be way off base
@@RobotSpartan The overpriced Ody was a marketing Oddity that pulled major $$$ all up front leaving pretty much no room for price increase at launch. Mining and a huge Hangar sold it.
A better comparison for Galaxy is Caterpillar. Galaxy gets one huge module compared to multiple small modules.
Both likely must be fit/unfit in station. Bigger guns will up price on Galaxy.
Galaxy may be a hint at modules to come for Cat and Carrack.
Carrack owners can buy multiple modules and drop them where they like.
Might have a point on the cat actually, something I didn't consider at all. Honestly forgot it was meant to be Modular as it's been the "go to cargo runner" for such a long time now
Well he did say pounds so I guess have to do the exchange rate to see what he thinks it might be in American dollars.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Current exchange rate (and we pay VAT) means whatever a ship costs in £ is close enough the same as in US$
This is not the Pretender, its the Usurper 😬
Usurper! Thats the word i meant but my brain broke (thats why i paused)
I really like the idea of this one being a industrial focus, dont really care for the carrack, the odyssey was a step in this direction. But the galaxy seems like the ship for me, could also use a repair/refuel/rearm module
Aye the more industrial focus I think gives it a broader appeal. For me the end goal is science and medical (with some Merc work on the side) so the carrack never quite sung to me, but with the right options this could
Interesting video but that Title picture and calling it Carrack Killer is pretty clickbaity. The Carrack has medbay, hanger, garage, drones, repair shop, scanning room without any module. Still the ship is quite big and we know very litte about what that size is used for but from what we know so far it does not even compete with the Carrack.
I'll hold my hands up on the clickbait thumbnail, though at least I had the decency to actually relate it to the video and be relevant!
And aye, the galaxy does have a rather large amount of space even without the modules, so I'd expect it to feature SOME of those things, but we won't know for a couple weeks
@@RobotSpartan Fair enough you did related it to the Carrack and yes I'm also looking forward to what CIG will tell/show us.
I genuinely hate clickbait (and the fact TH-cam practically forces it's use) so I try my best to be as genuine with it as possible 🙂
Another ship no one will use. I wish people would stop and think before buying these ships, they are less than useless without a large very organised crew. People that solo the carrack will get a shock to the system when cargo refactor and resource management become a reality.
I wouldn't say NO-ONE will use; we use my friends carrack a fair bit, but thats as a group of 3-4 players. I do however think the vast majority wont have that organised crew as you say
Generally not a fan of 'leaked' ships. I made an exception for this YT. I heard the word 'Carrack' about 14 times.
The only way the King will lose the title is when players stop talking about the Carrack. Which can't happen, as every large new ship is compared to the Carrack.
It's kind of a victim of its own success really. It's such a well rounded ship that its the thing everyone wants " their ship" to be. As a result, I don't think it's ever really going to happen, though I understand and somewhat share the sentiment
carrack killer incoming.... RSI EXPLORATION SHIP
Get the pick axes ready, the salt mines are about to open
if that thing is 700 bucks on concept....., AGAIN, and underperforms compared to carrack, i will definitly pass, as i did with the odyssey.
Only time will tell. I only expect that because i suspect CIG will wanna snag some carrack owners with a CCU
What gameplay is there to a carrack? Nothing. An explorer of a fishbowl. At least you can use this thing for something actually in game.
MAYBE. Depends if the modules are actually functional 😂
Am Think the is bet to def is self in the Ordysy but the carry is bet the am keeper my carry but me by buy it in game
English wasn't great sadly, but i think i understand what you're saying. Wont spend money as you have an odyssey and this isn't worth replacing it, but worth getting in game?
modularity is what i am most interested in. if its oh here you go three different variants that are each 500 to 600 each. no thanks period end of story.
Aye could go any direction really. Only a couple days until we know for sure though 🙂
So far it look like a pass but I am waiting to see what comes from the official Q&A
I'm 50/50 myself. I don't have a "large" ship, and this could be the one, but then it could not.
Just gotta wait and see, only 2 weeks to go!
@@RobotSpartan 2 weeks to go? For the Q&A? idk? maybe so. IAE starts tomorrow! Of course we will have to wait for RSI day before we see what they have in store for us on the Galaxy. I am not expecting a ship but we will see a concept segment for sure and I am also expecting to see a hollo viewer.
@@reverendzombie72 Aye but RSI day is near the end :)
never
Gonna need to add some context to that there bud
@@RobotSpartan I meant by that comment that I would never recommend anyone to buy this vessel.
Of course for that price it is interesting but i just think it is not worth it
p.s. I have to compliment you on how you show the ships.
I like it
@@scozzese5348 ah that makes sense now. Yeah i tend to suggest only buying starter ships, and never anything higher than a cutty or lancer if you want something bigger, then stopping
and thanks :)
still not match the mighty merchantman
Hopefully you'll still be alive by the time the BMM makes it into the PU. I've put the brakes on buying concepts, like the SanTok, and BMM due to the fact that CIG is notorious for releasing stuff concepted, and designed after, and leaving those that invested in things like the BMM wanting, and seething.
to be fair, the BMM i can see being the single most common cap ship out there.
Want to do *insert literally anything here*? BMM
this from the powerpoint too? lol
Nope. This is from the game files in the latest PTU :)