"I think the radiator is leaking." "got no time" "We got a flat!" "we got NO time" "The headlights are not working!" "WE. GOT. NO TIME" "THE ENGINE IS OVERH- "NO TIME"
This just shows the huge difference between wing and no wing. No idea why some people take their wings off their wrx/sti, it actually makes a huge difference. You may have a little more straightline speed but try taking a corner
Probably because 99.9998% of owners aren’t using the vehicles in a way that downforce is a huge factor. Plus, that gigantic stock spoiler looks ridiculous on a 280hp factory car
Petter Solberg's victory in the WRC in an S10 Subaru Sti in 2003 is the reason I own an 04 Sti now :) Saw that when I was 10 and wanted once since. Got her at 21!
@@Forke13 I understand the sentiment of your comment but the manufacturer doesn't make money from people who bought their childhood dream cars second hand.
@@thisaraperera3678 no but they make money from first sale. Racing sports are best advertising type. They advertise their style, engine, reliability etc.
I agree. I think also that the guy that goes aside in sidecar in TT isle of man are even more bravier (or crazy)...search for TT Isle of Man Sidecar, if you haven't seen. Adding, Motorcycle rider in Dakar (who ride and navigate at the same time) ar also considering.
@@BrunoR8 Ohh yeah you’re right! The Isle of Man is insane. I love watching those types of events. They’re very intense. Those sidecar riders have nerves of steel
Literally first time seen a video where that small rear spoiler had a massive effect like that. I thought they're mostly for looks those small ones, holy shit it had a massive effect.
Idk why but the ending of the video playing röyksopp and just rally in general is incredibly comfy and sends me back, and I was never really a big rally fan (had the odd game and sometimes watched clips)
@@rileyn.3883 It's "What else is there?" from the Röyksopp album "The Understanding", I also recommend the album Melody A.M. as my personal favourite (probably mostly for how nostalgic Poor Leno is and how it always brings me back to skiing as a kid, I played a lot of SSX) but their entire discography is really good.
The commentator was like, well he didn't keep right. He is not a dum dum, he tried to keep it right, but without a rear spoiler there is so much he can do
Petter actually drove for quite some time while not understanding his codriver due to bad english skills, not sure if thats the case here though. Fun fact 😅 «But but, its not only only»
This just shows the importance and the big difference with downforce and without and why lots of us truck guys or street races or like race cars and generals have like big wings
Back when the scooby had relevance. Now it’s just another AWD 4 door car with more horsepower than you strictly need, Subaru need to put it back where it belongs, on a WRC rally stage.
The problem is it's too long... Impreza was initially developed as an A8 car, which meant it had to be just a slightly modified road car. Which meant in road version it had 4WD drive and everything and it was long. Same as Lancer, and hence these cars looked so spectacular on stages, driver had to really throw them into the corners heavily using Scandinavian Flick to make them turn. You could give it a modern rally suspension, but you won't change the fact it's too long to keep up with square geometry cars of today. BRZ would have been a better basis for a rally car, but then I bet fails some current homologation requirements.
@@Jimrlst Even if it wouldn't fail, it would probably screw up. The current homologation demands that car should be quite heavy, but allows square dimensions. Impreza/WRX or however Subaru calls the car this week, would have screwed up heavily. It doesn't mean it's bad car, rather that current WRC rules are heavily corrupted.
That's the turbo antilag they used at that time. This sound you used to hear when the car is approaching you and at the moment the driver lift off the throttle.
I've never seen such a track like the one in Finland, if your wings get damaged in the slightest, the competitor is almost guaranteed to not win the event.
At such jumps not only the spoilers matter, but also the wheel speed. If the wheels slow down after liftoff (because of breaking) the car gets a torque rotating it forwards (the bigger the wheels and speed, the greater the torque), and the opposite happens if you accelerate the wheels after jumping (by keeping your foot on the gas pedal). Perhaps with the big wing the car had a tendency to tilt up when jumping, but without it it nosedived, and even a master driver can be tricked by this.
@@montypizzle5780 I just went back and looked and you're right 🤦♂️. The mix of the quality and my tired ass thought it was a bug eye even tho it says 2005 in the title. Blob eyes are definitely my second favorite tho.
Back then it was considered part of the fun to see and hear the card extremely close up. It took some accidents and deaths for that to change, current day rally events have very distant seating and won't let spectators even remotely close to the cars once the engine is running
In addition to no spoiler correct me if I am wrong the car was missing it’s whole trunk. When the car jumped as its landing on the video it shows the trunk missing possible cause for the excessive noise dive.
People who even attend Rallies in person have bigger balls than me, I couldn't stand the thought of a car slamming into me cuz they lost traction on the dirt.
The organizers should not even be legally allowed to begin without spectator seats fortified. Imagine dying at a race because you're 6 years old and have no choice in the matter when your family goes to watch the race in-person. These hypothetical deaths are easy to prevent and it would take an idiot to be shocked at the potential for an accidental massacre.
"Researched for trs-80 right of a picture. 14 small fest great oval day job". Haha, the automatic subtitle feature isn't very good at translating co-drivers.
Commentry got it wrong. It wasn't the lack of spoiler allowing the rear of the car to kick up, it was Petter's enormous lead balls forcing the front end into the ground.
That seems very severe just for lack of spoiler. The speed of that rotation would need more force than just a spoiler to prevent so much rotational inertia. Could've been some other damage or incorrectly tuned rear suspension maybe? You can see in the first 2 humps that the car was nosediving before the jump, and obviously Petter is a goddamn legend so it doesn't seem like driver error.
Remember that he front of the car still aerodynamic... If you lose your spoiler the front is gona dive as soon as your front wheels fly because you don't have resistance behind
But then you would need to lift off the throttle. Specially in Finland, the idea you don't depend on those tricks to keep the car balance in the air and don't lose time braking. Here the situation is that the car has just lost the rear spoiler.
Does a spoiler/wing really have that much effect? I know it applies some downforce, but I think this was caused by something else, maybe a hard break right before takeoff which started throwing the weight to the front. Maybe the terrain was different from other cars tearing up the track between each of those comparison clips. They stated it dipped that much due to missing the spoiler and compared it to the car that stayed level WITH a spoiler.
Yes, it does. Aerodynamic forces start to be significant in cars above 70km/h. In Finland, they have high averages and peaks 195km/h. Consider also the surface area Subaru's spoiler had at that model, which brings significant downforce. For sure not like F1, but for a car that weighs 1200kg, any unbalance will make it pivot. For the WRC they not only made the lightest as possible respecting the minimum, but also as centralized as possible making use of ballast plates in the rear and use wind tunnels to optimize aerodynamics force for conditions like that in the video.
If you want to see extreme use of aerodynamics watch some F1 races... With F1 cars you can actually see what happens when your car have damaged front/rear wings
nah he did keep right on that jump. He was visibily way more on the right than the left, its the loss of wing that caused the shitty landing being the reason for him going off of the road.
![RAW ACTION Subaru WRX Rally Car [4K 60fps]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l49kH6z5E8w/mqdefault.jpg)
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Love rally racing. You start with full car end up with 2.5 wheels, blown engine and 75% damaged body.
Thankfully, nowadays the 75% damaged body does not include the driver and co-pilot
Most these engines def don't blow. They overbuilt AF
Aw geez, you got a laugh out of me!
"I think the radiator is leaking."
"got no time"
"We got a flat!"
"we got NO time"
"The headlights are not working!"
"WE. GOT. NO TIME"
"THE ENGINE IS OVERH-
"NO TIME"
If I didn’t know better I’d think the sport revolves around destroying your car as quickly as you can
This just shows the huge difference between wing and no wing. No idea why some people take their wings off their wrx/sti, it actually makes a huge difference. You may have a little more straightline speed but try taking a corner
No spoiler looks good on many sedans tho.
Depends on what roads they're driving on and sometimes just simply fashion choice.
In this video, they definitely could have used a wing.
if you are not using it on a track removing the factory wing prob doesnt effect the way your car handles that much
Probably because 99.9998% of owners aren’t using the vehicles in a way that downforce is a huge factor. Plus, that gigantic stock spoiler looks ridiculous on a 280hp factory car
@@JV-df9em wing on the sti is iconic what are you talking about
He's a legend driver , that's why
One of the best rally cars out there for sure
"it's what makes a subaru, a subaru."
Shit was way too heavy on the front, literally could have died because the car is trash lol
@@user_DAS just needed a wing...
@@cozz124 "zoom zoom"
@@user_DAS so is all rally cars if you broke off their wings you muppet.
The video should start with a "Spoiler Alert" disclaimer...
mf really hearted you're comment 14 years after the video was uploaded, madlad
seems like it is being recomended to everyone
This made me laugh more than it should have.
Or "Finland rally review *no spoilers*"
Lmaooo y’all are funny xd
0:50 the trust between the two is amazing and his concentration during the MOST SHIT moment he is A BOSS LEVEL DRIVER
Petter Solberg's victory in the WRC in an S10 Subaru Sti in 2003 is the reason I own an 04 Sti now :) Saw that when I was 10 and wanted once since. Got her at 21!
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why manufacturers go racing.
@@Forke13 Same. 206 GTI for me.
C.McRae was the reason I brought my MY00 WRX. God I loved that car.
@@Forke13 I understand the sentiment of your comment but the manufacturer doesn't make money from people who bought their childhood dream cars second hand.
@@thisaraperera3678 no but they make money from first sale. Racing sports are best advertising type. They advertise their style, engine, reliability etc.
the fact that a spoiler made that much of a difference is amazing
and people say wings are ricey.......ahhh that was nuts, great driver, shoulda stayed right though!
Hey it's been 13 years wow
@@fennex7575 hey
They're only ricey on cars that don't have enough power to warrant a spoiler.
@@fennex7575 yea
@@lonerider92 any car benefits from a spoiler.
I was watching this race when it happened, that was one hell of a physics lesson
Co-drivers are some of the bravest people I can think of in racing or in most things. I hate riding with people when they go the speed limit lol
I agree. I think also that the guy that goes aside in sidecar in TT isle of man are even more bravier (or crazy)...search for TT Isle of Man Sidecar, if you haven't seen.
Adding, Motorcycle rider in Dakar (who ride and navigate at the same time) ar also considering.
@@BrunoR8 Ohh yeah you’re right! The Isle of Man is insane. I love watching those types of events. They’re very intense. Those sidecar riders have nerves of steel
Now I see where Oliver got his "wide open mouth concentration face" from.
That's what I wanted to see 13 years ago. Thank you for recommending me now
I own that spoiler now :)
how and where
U 4 real?
Epic
Rly
Save the video as well
That Scottish accent
Song at the end is Röyksopp - What Else Is There
Nice touch with Röyksopp at the end
What else is there? :)
Literally first time seen a video where that small rear spoiler had a massive effect like that.
I thought they're mostly for looks those small ones, holy shit it had a massive effect.
Idk why but the ending of the video playing röyksopp and just rally in general is incredibly comfy and sends me back, and I was never really a big rally fan (had the odd game and sometimes watched clips)
whats the song name?
@@rileyn.3883 It's "What else is there?" from the Röyksopp album "The Understanding", I also recommend the album Melody A.M. as my personal favourite (probably mostly for how nostalgic Poor Leno is and how it always brings me back to skiing as a kid, I played a lot of SSX) but their entire discography is really good.
Rally driver: crashes into bushes and falls into a ditch.
The driver: Oh no anyways.
Ygeney Crashikov did the opposite rotation years later with Dale Moscatt as co-driver. Can't remember whether it was this stage.
I would say it was Ouninpohja
This dude still hearting comments, absolute madlad
The algorithm has brought us together again my friends
The commentator was like, well he didn't keep right. He is not a dum dum, he tried to keep it right, but without a rear spoiler there is so much he can do
That's what I was thinking... I would have love to see him "keeping it right"
Petter actually drove for quite some time while not understanding his codriver due to bad english skills, not sure if thats the case here though. Fun fact 😅 «But but, its not only only»
Röyksopp - What Else Is There playing at the end, nice
Great, and a nice bit of Royksopp at the end! 🏆🎶
This just shows the importance and the big difference with downforce and without and why lots of us truck guys or street races or like race cars and generals have like big wings
Ha ha!
Just wow!
Mills braces for impact but Petter just keeps driving!
Back when the scooby had relevance. Now it’s just another AWD 4 door car with more horsepower than you strictly need, Subaru need to put it back where it belongs, on a WRC rally stage.
The problem is it's too long... Impreza was initially developed as an A8 car, which meant it had to be just a slightly modified road car. Which meant in road version it had 4WD drive and everything and it was long. Same as Lancer, and hence these cars looked so spectacular on stages, driver had to really throw them into the corners heavily using Scandinavian Flick to make them turn. You could give it a modern rally suspension, but you won't change the fact it's too long to keep up with square geometry cars of today. BRZ would have been a better basis for a rally car, but then I bet fails some current homologation requirements.
@@SparrowNoblePoland I don't think it fails the current homologations (from what I could find) but the rwd is severely inferior to awd
@@Jimrlst Even if it wouldn't fail, it would probably screw up. The current homologation demands that car should be quite heavy, but allows square dimensions. Impreza/WRX or however Subaru calls the car this week, would have screwed up heavily. It doesn't mean it's bad car, rather that current WRC rules are heavily corrupted.
All we need is another hatch WRX
@@h5skb4ru41 or another 22b
0:58 that sound is just * chefs kiss * exquisite
That's the turbo antilag they used at that time. This sound you used to hear when the car is approaching you and at the moment the driver lift off the throttle.
I've never seen such a track like the one in Finland, if your wings get damaged in the slightest, the competitor is almost guaranteed to not win the event.
The song at the end was Röyksopp "What else is there". For those wondering.
damn he saved it, what a legend, he has balls
when in doubt
At such jumps not only the spoilers matter, but also the wheel speed. If the wheels slow down after liftoff (because of breaking) the car gets a torque rotating it forwards (the bigger the wheels and speed, the greater the torque), and the opposite happens if you accelerate the wheels after jumping (by keeping your foot on the gas pedal).
Perhaps with the big wing the car had a tendency to tilt up when jumping, but without it it nosedived, and even a master driver can be tricked by this.
Nice to put some Norwegian music on the outro.
The thick accent of the commentator makes it that much better
I loved this car in Colin Mcrae Rally 2005. And I still love it ;)
I miss those days of rally
a blessing rally video came up everyone's recommendation, keep it up youtube
"fur the reast uf his leife"
I love his accent lol
Prachtig echt geweldig
You always need a wing man (Ice's quote from TopGun)
Lol I mean he meant wingman I guess but a wing or two is definitely useful no matter what you uhh... fly in, as we can see here too lol
That car, preferably with the spoiler, is why I have always loved the bug eyes the most.
This is a blob eye though...
@@montypizzle5780 I just went back and looked and you're right 🤦♂️. The mix of the quality and my tired ass thought it was a bug eye even tho it says 2005 in the title. Blob eyes are definitely my second favorite tho.
@@CeLautrec haha no worries. I agree though, bugeyes are top tier, and blob eyes are a close second. I just wish they had made bug eye stis for us :(
I remember this like it was yesterday
Could have easily taken out a bunch of spectators trackside..
welcome to rally, there are dedicated spectator areas which are safe, but some people take the risk to get closer to the action
@@DogPoo69420 hey go big or go home life is no fun without a little danger
@@thunderbird1779 life is no fun if you are dead ^^
@@DerRusher who cares if its fun or not in death?
@@DerRusher thats already as im alredy dead inside
I’ll never understand why people stand so damn close to the track like that
Back then it was considered part of the fun to see and hear the card extremely close up. It took some accidents and deaths for that to change, current day rally events have very distant seating and won't let spectators even remotely close to the cars once the engine is running
@@Devixicus well that’s gay
@@yourmum69_420 Poor kid...
In addition to no spoiler correct me if I am wrong the car was missing it’s whole trunk. When the car jumped as its landing on the video it shows the trunk missing possible cause for the excessive noise dive.
People who even attend Rallies in person have bigger balls than me, I couldn't stand the thought of a car slamming into me cuz they lost traction on the dirt.
I'd love to attend but no way I'd be standing in a place like that. You'd find me on the outside of a corner up a cliff
The organizers should not even be legally allowed to begin without spectator seats fortified. Imagine dying at a race because you're 6 years old and have no choice in the matter when your family goes to watch the race in-person. These hypothetical deaths are easy to prevent and it would take an idiot to be shocked at the potential for an accidental massacre.
@@bulletprooftiger1879 don’t take your kid there then if you’re worried. Stop tryna tell everyone else what to do. Karen
Fun fact: It was the first time he closed his mouth while driving....
youtube algorythm just kicked in, yo.
And thats why spoiler is good
Disclaimer:
*when rallying:)
"Researched for trs-80 right of a picture. 14 small fest great oval day job".
Haha, the automatic subtitle feature isn't very good at translating co-drivers.
@Hassethekiller That's true, Thanks
You are breaking the car, Petter
cant wait for the english version
how i feel in in dirt rally 2.0 with 100% force feedback:
Ps2 game I remember playing such games similar to the WRC
THE CAR JUST WENT ON LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED
Commentry got it wrong. It wasn't the lack of spoiler allowing the rear of the car to kick up, it was Petter's enormous lead balls forcing the front end into the ground.
My humor is officially broken.
Samir you are breaking the car!
He is as legendary behind the wheel as is comical English skills are on TV.
That seems very severe just for lack of spoiler. The speed of that rotation would need more force than just a spoiler to prevent so much rotational inertia. Could've been some other damage or incorrectly tuned rear suspension maybe? You can see in the first 2 humps that the car was nosediving before the jump, and obviously Petter is a goddamn legend so it doesn't seem like driver error.
Remember that he front of the car still aerodynamic... If you lose your spoiler the front is gona dive as soon as your front wheels fly because you don't have resistance behind
@@tanker102 good point it just seemed very severe
He was super lucky that he didn't crash into the crowd after losing his spoiler and failing that jump.
co-driver voice... i hear this before
DIRT RALLY 2.0 co-driver
Yep, that is Phil Mills.
@@BrunoR8 realy? he are voce actor of dirt rally 2.0 co-driver!?
@@horizonfamily2850 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Mills
Love the commentator's accent.
“Sammy. You have to listen to my calls Sammy I beg you”
people really need to fix Safety issues in rally watching they are so close to the cars but idk if theres a reason for that or just being unsafe
It is fixed. The vid is from 2008..
Rally drivers are a different breed🥶🥶
YO WHAT IS THAT CAMERA STABILITY THO
2022 :(
this was 2005
All that crammed into 6 seconds.
Bloody hell.
this is literally the default for how my car looks like after finishing a dirt rally race
Imprezive
I love that the guy with the paper hugs it for deer life when they almost crash
So this is why every rally car needs a wing.
Solly!!11!! You breaking the car!
Is this scottish?
There is trick that if you'll brake for a bit and then full throttle right before the jump you can keep the nose up
But then you would need to lift off the throttle. Specially in Finland, the idea you don't depend on those tricks to keep the car balance in the air and don't lose time braking. Here the situation is that the car has just lost the rear spoiler.
I was watching this race while driving
13 years ago... When we start to see officially double digits.
Damn they made my summer car into a real thing
Those people standing there on the side right next to the road after the jump are seriously...not thinking properly I would say.
Samir you are breaking the caaaar.
Does a spoiler/wing really have that much effect? I know it applies some downforce, but I think this was caused by something else, maybe a hard break right before takeoff which started throwing the weight to the front. Maybe the terrain was different from other cars tearing up the track between each of those comparison clips.
They stated it dipped that much due to missing the spoiler and compared it to the car that stayed level WITH a spoiler.
Yes, it does. Aerodynamic forces start to be significant in cars above 70km/h. In Finland, they have high averages and peaks 195km/h. Consider also the surface area Subaru's spoiler had at that model, which brings significant downforce. For sure not like F1, but for a car that weighs 1200kg, any unbalance will make it pivot. For the WRC they not only made the lightest as possible respecting the minimum, but also as centralized as possible making use of ballast plates in the rear and use wind tunnels to optimize aerodynamics force for conditions like that in the video.
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@@BrunoR8 This is literally the perfect reply haha, thank you.
That's insane how much it effects the car given how much vehicles weigh
If you want to see extreme use of aerodynamics watch some F1 races... With F1 cars you can actually see what happens when your car have damaged front/rear wings
Samir, what are you doing my friend? Samir, you are breaking the Car, god damnit, Samir. My friend, what are you doing,?
It is Giovanni Georgio in the car
Look at that he’s done a nosedive
nah he did keep right on that jump. He was visibily way more on the right than the left, its the loss of wing that caused the shitty landing being the reason for him going off of the road.
When the festival is today, but you over- slept:
Dat Czech Republick flag in video makes me allmost happy same like this video ;-)
Is this the Subaru Solberg had stolen when he was in Ireland 10 years ago?
Didn’t know leprechauns liked rally racing ooo me lucky charms
phil going into full crash bracing and then back to business as usual within 5 seconds :D
Yep, the next corner is coming and as it is in Finland (fast rally), he need to come back and spit the notes like a machine gun again...😄
Plane: **leaves at 9 pm**
Parents at 3 am:
Samir don’t listen that’s why he always breaks the car
i could feel my brain learn how they talk
Where’s the bloody spoiler?
Take a look in previous comments here. Seems like one guy here have it now.
А у меня нет машины.
Только велосипед.
Что делать?
Solberg: Don't remember that one. Just last week, I crashed 19 times.