Thanks for this. The biggest difference in strategies was changing the breakout. The forwards along the boards helps a ton. When they kept moving to the middle before, every pass I would try would be picked off.
Bacon, now that there's no chemistry, how do you suggest setting up your lines to get the most out of ever player. Right now I put my highest overalls on the first line and so on but I don't think it's working too well for me. I'm not doing too well with this whole synergy thing.
use the overhead camera it allows you to see your opponents defense allowing you to move the puck to the open winger or defense-man that is fast and by using the over head camera it allows you to get an idea on how your opponent is using his dominant game play KEEP IN MIND WHILE YOUR IN THE DEFENSIVE ZONE DO NOT HAVE YOUR DEFENSE MEN GO AFTER THE PUCK KEEP THEM BY THE GOALIE AT ALL TIMES UNLESS YOU LIKE TAKING RISKS IT WILL SET UP THE ONE TIME FROM THE SLOT OR POINT AND THEY WILL LIKELY SCORE A GOAL WITH THE ONE TIME
Yo Bacon. This has been happening alot with top end players in HUT and Draft Champs: What strategies are good to stop someone from slow skating and forehand toe-curling the puck in circles when you pressure? And what ones are good to break into offensive zone when opponents AI D and him double team carrier on entry?
When I use that forecheck/neutral zone and I find that I'm not controlling the game, I just switch to a 1-2-2 passive then a 1-3-1 neutral zone and end up dominating the rest of the game. It works for me might work for anyone reading this comment lol
Bacon, theres an epidemic of chopping at the puck and having your player freeze immediately after in 17. I've been playing a lot of eashl and club games and that's mainly where its happened. I'd love to see a video with that, if it's happened to you. Also some of the new frequently terrible missed offside calls and some more of the now useless stick lift!! AND.. Bacon my man, I know you were once king troll, but there's more and more tasteless people that do it. PLUS now we have the classic "give me the position I want or I'll play like an ass!!" We NEED the option to kick people! Hopefully you touch on the subject and weigh in on what you think!! love the vids keep it up!
Bacon, sometimes when the guy beats my winger in the neutral zone I try to switch to my D but the game doesnt let me until the 3rd time I press it, to add those comp D are sitting flat footed and get beat so they get free breakaways. Is the inability to change to my D ice tilt or something, and do you recommend a strategy to make it so my D have already backed up enough? Thanks dude!
it's a bug in the game, it wants to switch to the closest skaters to the puck. you probably had two skaters behind the puck carrier that you will switch between. it happened to me in NHL 16, but it seems to have gotten worse in 17.
I wish they had the feature that 2k does where you can press the bumper to see each player/position assigned a button on your controller (it appears over the players head.) This makes it 10 times easier to pass and setup plays. Seems like an easy feature to implement, but then again I know nothing about game design haha!
Yeah that does happen sometimes... it will switch to closest guy to the puck, so I know this seems dumb, but take your forward away from the puck carrier and click switch again (basically you have 2 guys closer to the puck than your dman.) Yes, I get it could be too late by then.... but skate directly back to the net, you can sometimes poke check when he tries to deke the goalie OR just go manual AGGRESSIVE GOALIE!! thats what I try to do anyways
I use "ICE" but I learned to play on this camera, its not the best because sometimes I cant even see my dman entering the zone. I just use it because its a bit closer and looks better for videos in my opinion..... if I weren't making videos on this game I would use "Classic".
Holy shit thanks for listening to my comment! It makes sense now. Now all I gotta worry about is once I get into the offensive end is to pass it quicker because some players double the puck and passes then won't go through and I give up a break away
i have been playing 6v6 as a RW exclusively. i am quite new to NHL games but i have been doing well with assists. i manage about 1 a game, but i just cant hit the target. either that or the goalie handles all of my shots with ease. is it better to go with manual shooting or assisted?
I need tips on defense. If I step up for a hit I always miss now compared to last year. It not a fan of just sitting back and poke checking, I always get penalties if I decide to be desperate like that. I like to do a mixture of both but once they are in my zone they are probably going to score by either skating around to find a hole or back door because the other defender won't guard back door. Any suggestions?
i have a problem in nhl 17 ,i go in hut game mode write a team name and when push second step ,he write me i have problem in kick me out of hut games ,why is that?help if you can
Hey could you help me out, I want to buy an NHL game this year, haven't brought one since '98 and I have forgotten all the rules and strategies to have a successful franchise, could you make a video for people who never played and haven't played for a long time.
Hi!! I saw your team & your payers & i have a noob question... I just start playing HUT & I don't know how can I trade new players for my team... If you could help me!!?? :)
Hey bacon county so my friend keeps in superstar why are the goalies so easy for him to score but I can score the goalies should be hard to score on for both teams
Start building high OVR defense before you focus on your forwards... I use 3 defense with Long Range Bomber perk (as well as coach and 2 goalies) and the other 3 defense with Offensive Jug to get a +5 slap shot power +5 slap shot accuracy. My D lineup if you want suggestions: Weber, Carlsson, Seabrook, Ekman-Larson, Josi, Gostisbehere. Goalie: Quick, Bishop. For forwards you want Faceoff Master perks on your centers and Speedster perks on the wingers.
Yeah I got Gaborik too. Although after playing some more of the new ultimate draft format, I think my forward strat will change... no longer will it be FM centers and S wingers, it will be PP centers and WW wingers. I'm thinking that shot stats are better in this game than speed. Take Corey Perry for example. 86 speed 92 shot. He's insane and scores tons of goals.
How do you stick handle and move the body of the player so back and forth and side to side? I feel like all my movement is so wide and circular. Like almost everything is delayed in my movement. Are u just using the right toggle? Are you pressing anything else to make the moment more precise? I feel like the toggle stick being the a deke and shoot control is retarded cause in the middle of game when ur trying your butt off, your gonna hit the toggle up and shoot the puck. They should have made a designated button or toggle for shooting. Please if anyone can give me an idea of how to stick handle this way please let me know, I'd appreciate it.
I've noticed just my breakout strategies do not save for the games I play... I did set them in my strategies setting. Anyone else notice this? Is there something I'm missing?
dude, Luongo is trash for me lol im glad im not the only one. im right behind ya in D2 so im coming for ya bro. we were ranked withink 10 of each other a few times so im sure we will have a great matchup soon.
This is my first NHL game since 14 and man....I can't even pass in this game. I got wide open people that I miss. It seems like my pass is going to an invisible player in another section the the ice. A bit frustrating. Thank god for the point shot. Rebounds and deflections are how I am winning games
I was on a deserted island for weeks and all hope was lost, then a bottle floated by and there was a message inside that said if im early Mr. Bacon will reply
I'm so shit at this game but i love it.... i play the seasons on hut im struggling but it's not like im doing bad it's just the other people have like special mcdavid, ovi or crosby cards and i have like second series oshie and 1st series mcdavid as my star players. It's all to do with how good your teams are tbh i need matched up with even teams.
Jimmy James He isn't fast but poke checking is good, hitting is good, He can shoot well. He has 1pt each 2 games for me. He's solid plus his price might of dropped by like 10k
Can you do a video on how to SUSTAIN offensive pressure. I get shots off here and there in div 5 hut, but only when my opponent has no brain (haha everyone has a brain ;) ) and gives up an easy chance. I can't get in and take more than a shot or two before losing the puck to the defense and even when my forecheck manages to get it back it's for nothing. I keep losing 3-0 and 4-0 because my opponent gets 1 or 2 good goals and then my own AI goes turncoat and kicks in a goal or two during the pickup animation (seemless my @$$) or my AI goalie strides out to the blue line to pick up the puck when he should be in the net because the opposing players are rushing in (like, seriously, WTF Luongo???!!!!) yeah i know he's garbage but I'm poor. Never had more than 15,000 coins EVER so snowball's chance in hell of me having Stacked Squad. Oh yea, and my defense is a solid B+ to A- every game, but I still get out-shot like 20-5 or 24-8. Hits and faceoffs are usually fairly even, ToA is horrible. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
My problem in offense is that the opponent crashes me with one AI and the player he controls himself. I spill spaghetti all over myself and fuck up the passes and he gets the puck. I wish my opponents are never so calm like the ones against bacon in this video.
So basically this game is about reads and being able to have a good sense of awareness, and madden is just using dumb broken players and play calls and hoping they work
I love how the camera starts to shake if you score late in the 3rd period or in overtime.
I just noticed that! Really adds a ton to the overall gameplay imo.
Yes it's sick. Fans get louder, intensity kicks in, it's really good :)
YEah, WoW.. EA really nailed it. Thx 4 pond scum hockey too...
Thanks for this. The biggest difference in strategies was changing the breakout. The forwards along the boards helps a ton. When they kept moving to the middle before, every pass I would try would be picked off.
Loving these tips dude, I totally turned my HUT team around since watching HOW TO SCORE! Thanks BAcon!
Bacon, now that there's no chemistry, how do you suggest setting up your lines to get the most out of ever player. Right now I put my highest overalls on the first line and so on but I don't think it's working too well for me. I'm not doing too well with this whole synergy thing.
use the overhead camera it allows you to see your opponents defense allowing you to move the puck to the open winger or defense-man that is fast and by using the over head camera it allows you to get an idea on how your opponent is using his dominant game play KEEP IN MIND WHILE YOUR IN THE DEFENSIVE ZONE DO NOT HAVE YOUR DEFENSE MEN GO AFTER THE PUCK KEEP THEM BY THE GOALIE AT ALL TIMES UNLESS YOU LIKE TAKING RISKS IT WILL SET UP THE ONE TIME FROM THE SLOT OR POINT AND THEY WILL LIKELY SCORE A GOAL WITH THE ONE TIME
Yo Bacon. This has been happening alot with top end players in HUT and Draft Champs:
What strategies are good to stop someone from slow skating and forehand toe-curling the puck in circles when you pressure?
And what ones are good to break into offensive zone when opponents AI D and him double team carrier on entry?
Hey Bacon, how would you say this game ranks in how much fun you have against all the other NHLs? Love your videos!
This video is gold, been trying to figure out NHL 17 but I am not even half way there, this should help. thanks!
Martin Jones is a GOAT for me. I find, Synergies are super effective as well. Great stuff Bake-Cakes!
When I use that forecheck/neutral zone and I find that I'm not controlling the game, I just switch to a 1-2-2 passive then a 1-3-1 neutral zone and end up dominating the rest of the game. It works for me might work for anyone reading this comment lol
Bacon, theres an epidemic of chopping at the puck and having your player freeze immediately after in 17. I've been playing a lot of eashl and club games and that's mainly where its happened. I'd love to see a video with that, if it's happened to you. Also some of the new frequently terrible missed offside calls and some more of the now useless stick lift!!
AND.. Bacon my man, I know you were once king troll, but there's more and more tasteless people that do it. PLUS now we have the classic "give me the position I want or I'll play like an ass!!"
We NEED the option to kick people! Hopefully you touch on the subject and weigh in on what you think!!
love the vids keep it up!
Bacon if you reply it will make my day
Have a great day!
Bacon you are the first TH-camr to reply to any of my comments thank you
Bacon, sometimes when the guy beats my winger in the neutral zone I try to switch to my D but the game doesnt let me until the 3rd time I press it, to add those comp D are sitting flat footed and get beat so they get free breakaways. Is the inability to change to my D ice tilt or something, and do you recommend a strategy to make it so my D have already backed up enough? Thanks dude!
I have the same problem... Often Three times isnt enough... Free breakaway for my opponent, so frustrating
it's a bug in the game, it wants to switch to the closest skaters to the puck. you probably had two skaters behind the puck carrier that you will switch between. it happened to me in NHL 16, but it seems to have gotten worse in 17.
I wish they had the feature that 2k does where you can press the bumper to see each player/position assigned a button on your controller (it appears over the players head.) This makes it 10 times easier to pass and setup plays. Seems like an easy feature to implement, but then again I know nothing about game design haha!
Yeah that does happen sometimes... it will switch to closest guy to the puck, so I know this seems dumb, but take your forward away from the puck carrier and click switch again (basically you have 2 guys closer to the puck than your dman.) Yes, I get it could be too late by then.... but skate directly back to the net, you can sometimes poke check when he tries to deke the goalie OR just go manual AGGRESSIVE GOALIE!! thats what I try to do anyways
***** 100%! Thanks so much for the input man, i'll definitely try that.
Wat strategies do u use for overload behind the net
Bacon - what camera view do you use for HUT?
I use "ICE" but I learned to play on this camera, its not the best because sometimes I cant even see my dman entering the zone. I just use it because its a bit closer and looks better for videos in my opinion..... if I weren't making videos on this game I would use "Classic".
Bacon, do you make use of the saucer pass at all, I don't really hear you talk much about that.
Bacon, what music do you put in your videos???
Bacon I feel like I play better when you put more videos up. Can you keep doing that? Awesome, thanks!
I didn't understand what he said at 4:28 can someone explain
Holy shit thanks for listening to my comment! It makes sense now.
Now all I gotta worry about is once I get into the offensive end is to pass it quicker because some players double the puck and passes then won't go through and I give up a break away
i have been playing 6v6 as a RW exclusively. i am quite new to NHL games but i have been doing well with assists. i manage about 1 a game, but i just cant hit the target. either that or the goalie handles all of my shots with ease. is it better to go with manual shooting or assisted?
Totally random, but how can you change cele's in hut mode!?? Do you have to do it through the customize roster section individually?
Hey Bacon, I'm having trouble deciding what synergies I should have. What do you suggest?
I need tips on defense. If I step up for a hit I always miss now compared to last year. It not a fan of just sitting back and poke checking, I always get penalties if I decide to be desperate like that. I like to do a mixture of both but once they are in my zone they are probably going to score by either skating around to find a hole or back door because the other defender won't guard back door. Any suggestions?
Some of the strategies don't actually save when you edit them at the HUT strategies screen btw
Bacon, can you please tell me a good way to earn contracts fast? I feel horrible with that being my weakness on my team...
Last minute cheese is lit love the vids man
Bacon, which view do you use?
What are your line settings (Crash, Behind, Overload)?
Bacon, check out your goal horn. Its pretty sick
Thank you BaconCountry you are the best YT
Bacon's team is stacked right now just checked it out on the leaderboards. It's time to PUT IT ON THE LINE
Can you do a video like this for defense
i have a problem in nhl 17 ,i go in hut game mode write a team name and when push second step ,he write me i have problem in kick me out of hut games ,why is that?help if you can
Great video The best NHL youtuber there is
what camera angle is this?
Hey could you help me out, I want to buy an NHL game this year, haven't brought one since '98 and I have forgotten all the rules and strategies to have a successful franchise, could you make a video for people who never played and haven't played for a long time.
The legend says that if im this early bacon will reply
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I got Mrazek in my first pack and i haven't stopped using him. He's amazing for me!
Bacon new people r buying nhl u should do more videos. I need help bringing puck thru blue line
In which game modes you can use these new celebrations?
be a pro and eashl
Bacon man I did the same thing . I tried luongo too he lost me 3 games then went back to mrazek no lie lol. Mrazek is the Lehner of 17 for sure.
I've been dominating this year because I'm the kind of guy who rotates the puck. And, this is now the year of rotating the puck
Hi!! I saw your team & your payers & i have a noob question... I just start playing HUT & I don't know how can I trade new players for my team... If you could help me!!?? :)
Hey bacon county so my friend keeps in superstar why are the goalies so easy for him to score but I can score the goalies should be hard to score on for both teams
is a big Mac with bacon on it still a big Mac?
John Murphy big macs don't have bacon on them
well are French fries with ketchup on them still a French fries
Start building high OVR defense before you focus on your forwards... I use 3 defense with Long Range Bomber perk (as well as coach and 2 goalies) and the other 3 defense with Offensive Jug to get a +5 slap shot power +5 slap shot accuracy.
My D lineup if you want suggestions: Weber, Carlsson, Seabrook, Ekman-Larson, Josi, Gostisbehere. Goalie: Quick, Bishop.
For forwards you want Faceoff Master perks on your centers and Speedster perks on the wingers.
Again don't need high OVR forwards to start... stuff like Gaborik, Nyquist, Marleau, Boedker, etc (all have Speedster perk)
Gaborik is really good for me, also Brassard is, and he is very cheap.
Yeah I got Gaborik too.
Although after playing some more of the new ultimate draft format, I think my forward strat will change... no longer will it be FM centers and S wingers, it will be PP centers and WW wingers. I'm thinking that shot stats are better in this game than speed. Take Corey Perry for example. 86 speed 92 shot. He's insane and scores tons of goals.
How do you stick handle and move the body of the player so back and forth and side to side? I feel like all my movement is so wide and circular. Like almost everything is delayed in my movement. Are u just using the right toggle? Are you pressing anything else to make the moment more precise? I feel like the toggle stick being the a deke and shoot control is retarded cause in the middle of game when ur trying your butt off, your gonna hit the toggle up and shoot the puck. They should have made a designated button or toggle for shooting. Please if anyone can give me an idea of how to stick handle this way please let me know, I'd appreciate it.
Can't wait for your EASHL tips (if you're going to make them)
bruh. this video helped me out tremendously!!!!
I've noticed just my breakout strategies do not save for the games I play... I did set them in my strategies setting. Anyone else notice this? Is there something I'm missing?
dude, Luongo is trash for me lol im glad im not the only one. im right behind ya in D2 so im coming for ya bro. we were ranked withink 10 of each other a few times so im sure we will have a great matchup soon.
you play on ps4 or xbox one
Does bacon play on Xbox one or ps4
ps4
This is my first NHL game since 14 and man....I can't even pass in this game. I got wide open people that I miss. It seems like my pass is going to an invisible player in another section the the ice. A bit frustrating.
Thank god for the point shot. Rebounds and deflections are how I am winning games
Where's this defense video at?
Thx Bacon for the tips
Love you so much bacon thanks for this
thank bacon for the tips love you
I was about a 500 player last year and this year I am killing it (11-4-1) and 2 losses were disconnets
I was on a deserted island for weeks and all hope was lost, then a bottle floated by and there was a message inside that said if im early Mr. Bacon will reply
Nice, there was a clip of someone from my city. 780!!
Squad video!
am i noob if im in div 8 in nhl 17
And help with strategies thanks
I don't have any where near that amount of time to decided, the defence is on my in one.
I pulled a 93 overall Sydney Crosby "team canada edition" I'll do trades if wanted
PS4?
The fact you spelled his name wrong makes me extremely sad
Xbox one and "Sidney Crosby"
BACON THANK YOU!
I was running Mrazek for like 30 games then switched to Anderson but now I miss Mrazek
Some games i does not mater what you do, cause if your players have that 'delay' all game... can't pokecheck or hit anything and have like 45% passing
HUGE improvement this game but offense is more creative and better and defense def tougher
Do a how to defence, I suck at defending
Thanks bacon!
I get so many error messages that I can't even play HUT for more than 30 seconds without being thrown back to the main menu
Past couple of days I've been getting that too
happened to me once and I almost didn't make my the cut. Ended up winning 3 strait and won the title
How do you already have so many coins
Hey I got the edition that gives you a pack per week and it's been more than a week since I got one. Anyone else have this problem?
Shots from the points go in a lot
15-2-1 so far, havent played that much, but cannot complain :)
You play exactly like I have been playing :D
Bacon thanks for strategies,its working like nuclear bomb xD
Bacon brother make some eashl trolling videos
i pulled a luongo and hes just trash cause ppl pick corners on me dont know who to use i have f anderson but havent tried him
Martin Jones is the way to go. Honestly, the guy is a monster.
Apparently freds good, I have him too but havent used him
***** When I play against Fred, he's super easy to score high on.
Bacon. Can you do a face off video?
I can't get any time on the puck. Guys just charge me and the weakest hit knock my players off the puck.
if they are coming after you just try to do a deke or protect the puck that usually works for me
move the puck bruh
I'm so shit at this game but i love it.... i play the seasons on hut im struggling but it's not like im doing bad it's just the other people have like special mcdavid, ovi or crosby cards and i have like second series oshie and 1st series mcdavid as my star players. It's all to do with how good your teams are tbh i need matched up with even teams.
Damn great video I try to do this stuff but I'm trash at NHL hahaha
Bacon, you need to make a team with all speedsters... NANG
Hey guys, I need a new d man to replace ghost on my squad. Who should I get? (Cheap)
honestly brodin or risto are 2 of the best in the game
Lindholm or Boychuk
Weber and Stralman seem to work for me
webers to slow >.< IMO
Jimmy James He isn't fast but poke checking is good, hitting is good, He can shoot well. He has 1pt each 2 games for me. He's solid plus his price might of dropped by like 10k
Can you do a video on how to SUSTAIN offensive pressure. I get shots off here and there in div 5 hut, but only when my opponent has no brain (haha everyone has a brain ;) ) and gives up an easy chance. I can't get in and take more than a shot or two before losing the puck to the defense and even when my forecheck manages to get it back it's for nothing. I keep losing 3-0 and 4-0 because my opponent gets 1 or 2 good goals and then my own AI goes turncoat and kicks in a goal or two during the pickup animation (seemless my @$$) or my AI goalie strides out to the blue line to pick up the puck when he should be in the net because the opposing players are rushing in (like, seriously, WTF Luongo???!!!!) yeah i know he's garbage but I'm poor. Never had more than 15,000 coins EVER so snowball's chance in hell of me having Stacked Squad. Oh yea, and my defense is a solid B+ to A- every game, but I still get out-shot like 20-5 or 24-8. Hits and faceoffs are usually fairly even, ToA is horrible. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
How do you get so many damn coins? My team in nhl 16 was shit even after 120+ games played.
My problem in offense is that the opponent crashes me with one AI and the player he controls himself. I spill spaghetti all over myself and fuck up the passes and he gets the puck. I wish my opponents are never so calm like the ones against bacon in this video.
you're a saint
+BaconCountry i love you
Just like tmartn making a video "most op weapon on cod this year"
Hey bacon put our game in a video. Oh wait you cant because you didnt smack me like all of these other baddies lol
So basically this game is about reads and being able to have a good sense of awareness, and madden is just using dumb broken players and play calls and hoping they work
can you explain to me why these strategies are completely different from some of your gameplay videos? why you lie to us?
after watching this video I went from div 7 to div3 in 2 days
I get like 27 shots with 7mins more time on attack and still lose sum how
you and WillyWonka9110 played each other so many times lol
Bacon is Best