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I’m a diy’er. After 30 years I finally broke down and bought myself a heap of scaffolding and planks. I work alone and slow so renting is not a good option. I figure what I save by diy will pay for it. And saving myself a broken hip or worse is well worth the cost. 😜😜😜It’s so much more relaxing to work on a platform too. I enjoy your vids and it’s nice to see someone take pride in their work 👍👍👍
Baker scaffolding works well on stairs. I use a painters bench at the landing and some planks from the steps to the bench then set the baker on top of that with some blocking. Been using baker scaffolding for 40 years on most interior trim jobs.
Bakers are a perfect size I think. Mine has a board mounted that hangs over the outside with a piece of gutter that makes a good tool/parts trough.
The problem with Baker's Scaffold is the narrowness. Going up a second level is wobbly. Mason's scaffold are secure with the width. I found the best scaffold is an Aluminum 7' x 4' with stairs in the center. The hardest part of a scaffold is getting up the second level.
@@freeworks2715 I think he was just asking about doing stairwell work but for other purposes I agree with you. To put another section on Baker Scaffolding it requires the outrigger stabilizing wheels for the base section to stay somewhat stable. The baker scaffolding is easier to haul around for single section work.
@@freeworks2715 yeah, I don't like the wobbling of the narrower scaffold, I like the extra width for the stability ..much better!
Put cleets on the 2x so itll hook to the scaffolding and rip plywood and spread the 2x apart and attach the plywood to them
Took the words right out of my mouth 👍🏻
FABULOUS!!! Really great that you secured this job. If anyone can handle this it's you and John. Congratulations.
Im a general foreman for a scaffold company in NYC. What you want is something called system scaffolding. It may be more expensive but it is extremely versatile. If you need more assistance let me know. I also could do a CAD drawing for you if you give me a few measurements on the stairs so i could tell you the exact pieces you would need.
I have 22 sections of this same stuff. It’s time consuming to set up but it makes the work so much easier. Having saw horses, cutting stations, trash cans, etc all at working height is so amazing. Especially if it’s 15’+. Game changer and always a great investment in my opinion.
I love that you get excited about tackling new things :) youre my weekly carpentry inspiration! I just made my first paycheck today. Thanks for the education!
what i do in stairwells is top down. Affix a 2 X 4 to solid framing horizontally on the wall even with any step, then frame a temp. platform to work on, onto it.
then patch the walls after the high end is done.
For stairs I make a counter step platform, like basically make a 3 step with a platform on top and set it the stairs so 3 steps have a level platform to set ladders on stable surface. Idk how to really describe it id have to draw it
Yes, a temporary deck is the way to go. On the upstairs side you build a section as high as your deck needs to be. On the bottom your section will obviously be much taller. High enough to make your deck level. Now build a deck and attach it to these two legs/sides. Use scrap plywood attached to both eliminates any racking. Done it many times. One guy, 30 minutes and you have taken an unsafe work area and made it a solid surface. Now you are working off a 10 -12 foot ladder to reach a 20 foot ceiling vs. a 24 foot ladder. Looks scary from the floor but it is quite as solid as working off the floor. Much safer!!! Looking forward to seeing your project progress.
@@kenwhite4273 thats exactly what I was trying to discribe, very nicely explained.
"Do it for the kids." That resonated with me. 8:59
I use the little giant ladders for stairs. It gets you a 11ft A frame with adjustable legs for the stairs. But if you are above 17ft or so it will not work unless you get the bigger little giant ladders
Yes, more of our wonderful client, Kira's, house! The details of this trim work is incredible and really going to tie the whole project together.
Little Giant ladder, a extension ladder with ladder jacks and a pick board. If your extension ladder doesn't have ladder levelers you can make a step platform onsite to match steps rise height and ladder width. The more expensive route is to use ring lock scaffolding that can be configured to fit any space.
I use an extention ladder and a "ladder jack" with a plank usually 2x10 or 2x12 if I cant use a pick
Yeah thats what I usually do, I use two 24ft ladders, ladder jacks, and an aluminum telescoping extension plank or 2x12s sometimes if i need more than one plank. They actually make OHSA approved 2x12 planks too. I did a job last summer on this 5 million dollar house in downtown Chicago and we had like 40 OHSA 2x12s and 7 stories of fixed scaffolding. That shit was sketchy as fuck to set up climbing up on top to set those metal end pieces with no ropes or anything, i mean i dont usually use rope but usually im only going 2nd or 3rd story with ladder jack scaffolding. This is for Replacement Vinyl Windows.
Good solid Multi ladders and extendable aluminum plank, , perfect for stair ways.
I run the same. I used 2 werner 22' multi ladders with the aluminum painters plank.
get some U shaped brackets for the boards buddy! you can bolt them through the boards, use washers, and thatll be safe! Maybe two bolts on the underside so that they lock into each other. Then you can dissassemble it at every job still but keep your platforms and not have to buy any. Its just one of those fence post brackets!
I usually use a combination of an extension ladder with a ladder jack and an A frame ladder if there’s a landing, or two extension ladders with ladder jacks depending on the layout of the stairs. Then I put an aluminum extension plank either on the ladder jacks or on a ladder jack on one and and on a step of the a frame ladder in the other end. You could also put one end of the extension plank on a stair tread also. Hope that helps
@ 4:54 Right on about watching tools and equipment! I am paranoid all the time about mine. I do daily rounds just to put eyes on all my equipment. Anyhow, love all your videos. You do damn good work and do excellent videos! I've learnt a lot, thank you Brother, keep em rolling!
You're missing a brace for that scaffolding that runs from corner to corner. This is required for this style of rolling scaffolding and is especially important if you're using scaffold planks that don't hook over the edge. The risk is that the scaffolding will collapse diagonally in on itself. I teach this for a living btw, I'm not just some guy.
So excited for this job! Congratulations
Use a little giant combo ladder. the legs on each side can be set to different heights to accommodate the stair treds.
Please put 2 X 4 cleats on those planks that fit on both sides of the cross-rails the planks sit on. Drywalling ceilings over stairs I've had incredible success with those ladders that fold in all kinds of configurations. I couldn't have done the drywall installation, mudding and texturing in a Dome House without one.
Yeah at least cleat them, i do hardwood 2x12s, 2x12 OHSA Boards, or aluminum planks. Hardwood makes a huge difference, not as bouncy if your gonna use wood.
we just use 2x4 cleats and 10' scaffold picks, extension picks, or wood planks with plywood. In big rooms, we''ve bilt whole floors with scaffold so you could walk out there like gentlemen, we've hung / /tapped many mansions
@@F-Bomb313 thats dope sounds like a nice operation you got going, what state you work in?
@@Mizzle420420 . "thats dope sounds like" Haha! Thanks for the laugh.
@@james1795 Happy to make u smile 😎🤙, you like my phrasing I take it
For stair work I use the 22' multi ladders with the 13'' extending walk-board... Just completed a 25' high stairwell wall in a barnwood accent for a customer. Don't know your application or layout as mine had a handrail completely around the top of the stairwell
2 inch steel tube lock type scaffolding which is held together with clamps
would work best on stair and other uneven surfaces .
This sounds a little complicated but for the stairs, I have 2 - 24" 2 x 4's that I will anchor to the wall, These have I bolts in them and I can ratchet strap my extension ladder to. One at the top and one at the bottom so the ladder is secure. On the other stair side I have a finger masher 5000 (the aluminum ladder that you can make crazy shapes with) that I adjust and it is very solid on the stairs. I stretch a 2 x 12 in between. I used to just lean the extension ladder up against the wall but after having one slip and make me "ship my pants" I made the jig to keep it in place. With it being snug on the wall it makes getting around it a lot easier with materials too. I also have one made from a 5 gallon bucket that attaches to the top of the ladder that I use when pruning palm trees here in FL. Nothing like a secure ladder to make the day go by easier.
Looking forward to seeing more from you.
Use the little Giant Ladder adjusted for the step treads with painters scaffold across the rungs to another little giant ladder if necessary
For the stairs, Narrower 36x60 scaffolding frames and you can still build it on the stairs but at the bottom you need more sections then the top. 1 or 2 at the top landing, 3 or 4 at the bottom of the stairs, you still use the cross braces but you make up the difference in height using 36” x 36” scaffold frames that you need too (2-3 would be needed) for longer stairs you will have an intermediate scaffold for a total 16’ long scaffold they also sell cross braces for 36” sections in narrow and regular 60” wide frames, you can also block up the feet of the scaffold or use adjustable bases
but the best scaffolding is tube and clamp, it’s much more versatile, great for exterior trim jobs where you’re setting up over lower roofs, measure and plan out your scaffolding, it’s its own little job.
Get the yellow baker scaffold from big box stores, its only $200 for the section, with platform its can be setup at any random heights on stairs because you can position platforms anywhere on uprights, your other options are adjustable ladders with planks between them or 2 ext ladders with a pick, another option is tubular scaffold but thats best rented and left to the pros.
In a staircase we used to put an offset folding extension ladder at the stairs bottom and then run an adjustable aluminum plank from the ladder back toward the stairs. If needed, we used 3 ft folding workhorse at the top of the stairs, anything to keep the plank level as possible. Since the ladder folds, it can be moved up/down along the stairs as needed.
😂 I was trying to look over your shoulder for the combination, cuz I’m Mexican , love your channel bro .
We bought some second hand scaffolding and are making some solid wood planks. Fiancé is a structural engineer, did the math and now we have some heavy planks from 2x8s and plywood (and metal hook brackets to keep it level/below the bar line for the walking surface) that can handle a 500lb point load in the middle over a 10' span.
your going to need a new garage or warehouse to fit all that stuff. Nice problem to have. Im lookin forward to this series of you guys workin on that house.
It can be somewhat pricey, yet a good overall investment. Depending on the area you live in. But I would suggest purchasing a universal indoor-outdoor skyhook. All be it, beware of the aftermarket knockoffs.
Nice man, couple weeks ago we had to rent scaffolding like that but for 6 stories in downtown chicago. We installed some giant ass windows, shit was intense.
That looks like a sweet job site, good luck homie!
The lock picking lawyers not afraid of that gate lock. 🤣
I use a werner multi ladder. You can buy various heights for what you need and adjust each side so it will be level on steps. It is also rated for 375lbs. I have a little giant also which is basically the same thing. It is just a matter of what brand you like most.
If you add some plywood too the 2x material you can make a platform. Add a little block to the bottom edges and it won’t slide off. Little giant ladders with telescoping platforms work great for stairs but they are very heavy.
Bakers style rolling scaffolding only 29 inches wide homedepot sells 6ft,11ft 2 story,and 17ft 3 story bakers rolling scaffolding for $230,$600,$1100. Each size is adjustable to the max size. Everything included platforms, outriggers, and top rail safteyguard
New progress and success= Needing new and more equipment! Keep up the good work, Richard.
on scaffolding, the place you have casters, put screw jacks in there, that's how you level it off. i have bucks that are mid heights, generally use would use a 48" high under the low side, then screw jacks to level it out. some stairs are funky, ive got a 36" set too so between them it always works. if you're x braces are 7 ft. thats 7 treads, @7" high should be min of 49" difference. hopefully it makes sense
Depending on if you want screws running through drywall or not, you could just make a temp floor over entire stairwell. Just some 2x4s for joists and temp sheeting with like 4 screws in each sheet. I wouldn’t think it would take more than a half day to set up. Also depends on what you are doing above the stairs.
I just did a huge project with 4 levels of scaffolding. The hardest part is raising and lowering the planks. I ended up tying a rope around the middle hook and feeding it up over the scaffolding above and back across to the other side...sortof like a pully system. That way I could raise or lower the plank alone when way up there and I had total control over it. Worked great.
I would lay planks on top of each level's walk board, climb up, then haul planks up and lean them again until the top level when I just set them up. I modified my planks to cantilever 2 feet out on one side. i wish I could post a pic here but not sure how that works on youtube. I have tried hauling them up but if you have to move scaffold a few times that will wear you out. Plus have to have someone hooking them up on the ground.
Baker scaffolding! Both sides are adjustable. Use them all the time on stairs. Bought two 6' sets a few years ago at harbor freight for $189 each. Best "ladder" investment I've ever made!
You would need to put the scaffolding along side of the stairs and then put your planks from the scaffolding over to the second floor landing ( bridge it) , use a folding ladder to put you planks on to get the desired height you need to reach the ceiling, I have used this method many times and also put extension ladders on opposite sides of walls and run planks over to them as well and build sort of a box type platform to reach my T&G job . Last job I was about 24’ above the bottom floor.... just don’t look down lol
Bought scaffolding, including 2 aluminum planks, 4 wheels and safety posts years ago to do a roof, sold them when I was finished. Final cost $100. Not lying
I have leaned an extension ladder against the wall and used long 4x4s as walking planks on stairs with high ceilings.
One end of the 4x4s go onto a step of the ladder, the other end goes to the top landing.
When your decking comes in, it'll be like Christmas. I've made my own decking when in a pinch and still use the stuff I made. The genuine decking planks are just plain nicer, safer, lighter in weight for the size. Downside, expensive. Never regretted it though. Wheels are great, just plain base plates work well, especially on dirt. OSHA will love to see a guardrail system on it as well. ( Don't tell 'em)
It's nice to have your own scaffolding, saves time running back and forth to rental, and being a clock watcher to get stuff back on time. A couple of suggestions.
There is a version that is "extendable", the top and bottom rails telescope inside another tube, so it can be as narrow as 36 inches, or as wide as 60 inches with just one frame. (the ones I have are from MetalTech) (if you use it in it's narrowest configuration, you will need to make your own 2nd scaffold plank, as there is not enough room for 2 of the 19 inch wide scaffold platforms)
I find a 5 foot tall to be a good height without it being too sketchy to put the next level on. (5 by 5 is a decent size)
If you are erecting solo, take a rope with a spring clasp on the end, and lift the sections while you are standing up top. Much easier to control and get the legs to interlock from up top versus from on the ground.
The "end frames" are the same if you have the 7 foot long scaffold platforms or the 10 foot platforms, the only thing that changes is the X-brace. (longer X-brace for the 10 foot platforms) 10 foot are brutal to manhandle solo.
If you use them a lot, consider some "short" frames. I have 2 that are 36 inches high. They don't get used much, but when they do come out, they reduce the "hunching over" that is needed if a taller frame was used.
Consider a Scaffold Guard Set, much safer and lower than having another end frame and X-brace as your fall prevention safety device.
Be cautious using extendable aluminium planks on scaffolding. There are no cleats on them to stop them sliding around or off the end.
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You need the platforms , it's a crucial part of the stabilization of the the whole set up. Be safe. Your doing for the kids so do t get hurt.
Very curious if your concerned at all about settling in this new home after your done? I’m a painter and did work on a new house that had paneling all up the walls and every seam had cracked after the house settled. We didn’t paint or install any of the cracked paneling it was just something the customer showed me and asked if I could fix.
Where's your planks? Baker for stairs.
I use a little giant on stairwells. I know you're not a fan but its it's gotten in some tricky places. Oh, and a stretch board also helps
I would use trestles on the floor level and run planks in level to where ever they land on the stairs, or if you wanted something really steady look into quick stage scaffolding
2x10 scrap boards. Bil jax. Keep plenty of those. Just run long boards from scaffold to stairs. I work with a scaffold master, and has taught me a lot on how to work high and efficient.
Scaffolding is a great investment. It doesn't get outdated and its essential to do the high paying trim work. The house looks nice. Nothing like the smell of a freshly drywalled house that's ready for trim.
Use an extension ladder and an aluminum extension plank
The extension planks come in different sizes and typically almost double in length
Baker scaffold works awesome on steps, the platforms click into the uprights every 4 inches or so making the platform pretty level.
What Ben said + put a few span screws (1.5 in.) in the plywood, into the 2x , mid span- to strengthen and reduce bend when you're out there in the middle.
Little giants and planks for stairs 👍🏻
Love this channel!Quality work is hard to find theses days
It’s good to see your business must be doing well, your investment in tools is making your work more efficient. Stay safe pal 👍
Bakers are good for stairs.
Bakers are really good for that OSHA won't bug you with just one set in use (your under 10') make sure you use the rails when you're higher. Harbor freight bakers are not bad but I don't think they sell rails
We use stair ladders and planks. The ladders we have and folding ladders that the front part slides up and down so you can set them up on stairs
I use ladders, ladder jacks and extension planks for hallways nd stairs. Ladders are extension nd maybe a 8ft...or 6ft...depending on were my extension plank falls.
Always works great for me...
Try using wire for the 2x4 to tie down to the scaffold thats what we use in the refiners
For stairways get the 30 inches wide, either the same style as yours and use cheeseborough clamp with pipe and screw levelers to make them level or you could get what they call a baker style scaffold Wich is adjustable
For stairwells as a lot of commenters have said, extendable aluminum plank (from Lowes $230 I think) with extension ladder(short and light one) on the bottom, and step ladder at the top. Also, I'm not a fan of your 6' tall scaffold. Two 5' tall sets, a 3' half section set, and three 10' long planks is what I have and I wouldn't change it, just my opinion and what works for me. I also have aluminum Upright brand scaffolds for narrow/small areas but those are expensive. Thank you for your channel as I have learned a lot from you.
-10' A frame
-14' A frame
-bakers scaffold
For stairs weve used little giants and the a painters pick. Works great. The little giant are brilliant ladders you need to invest in a couple
Before the stairs get the finish work, get box store lumber and build your own platforms and you can secure it to the stairs. Break it down reuse the lumber as you go when it’s done toss it, or save it.
Mathias Wandel made a scaffold with motorized control motors that can steer it around from on top.
Love this video love it when you said about taking care of the new tool lol.
We'll rip a sheet of 3/4 ply to 16" x 8', you get three pieces 15-7/8+- or you can go wider if you need a bigger platform for other things to have a place to set, screw them to your 2x material so you can break it down latter if you need to, lay it on the scaffolding, mark the ladder rungenough
Put some blocks on each end facing down to keep the boards from moving off and dropping.
3ft scaffolding works great in stairways. We change out big windows on stairs with the smaller scaffolding.
Be careful - think about fall arrest systems when up there. 3d level or higher, I'm tied in.
put some wood cleats on the bottom of the 2x help keeping plank from sliding off scaffold
In the UK we use a oxford system that is design for stairs only
I'm surprised you opted not to buy decking for the scaffold. It's much safer and worth having if you plan on using this on a regular basis. Those 2 x 6s don't even have cleats on them...
he did buy them, he is waiting for stock to come in.
You didn't watch the whole vid.
The scaffold I've seen on stairs is more custom buildable. Basically no legs on one side and the other the height of the stairs. Those also don't have wheels I've noticed. Also seen scaffold set up on landing and bases...boards, even step ladders horizontal laying on one of the stairs.
Adjustable gorilla ladder for stairs buckly but good for 2 different heights.
Put the scolding at the base of the stairs and run a 2x12 into a step from the scaffolding.
notch the boards to straddle rails vertically then plywood to walk on. for stairs use long 2 by 6 with plywood for ladder
it's soooo exciting to see how the channel is growing... SUPERB !
You need OSHA plank dude. You're going to get hurt badly when those boards snap.
Put the ladder legs on 4-5 gallon buckets..It'll reach :-)
Little giant style ladders and walk planks for stair work
You probably have been asked before but would an enclosed trailer be beneficial to you?
I've been working as a general contractor for about 13 years. All that time I've been working out of my pickup truck. Just got an enclosed trailer 2 months ago and it's been a crap-ton easier storing tools and supplies. I wish I would have gotten it years ago!
Mechanical ladder Home Depot has gorilla brand on sale for 79$ right now and aluminum extension plank also handy are drywall benches
You may have to build what you need from 2x4 and plywood just did it in my house to get up up to 16' high and span of 10' plus screw it together than reusable
Little giant latters and platforms for the stairs
Best move !
Use 2 little giant ladders that can be leveled and metal scaffold plank by werner that is extendable
Little giant scaffold system
Continue achieving and building your brand/Company. Awesome videos and thanks for being humble and helping others u might never meet...
Not that you need to on the steps. However if you ever need to set up scaffolding on un level ground. You guy the foot jacks that wind up and dow to level each side.
Yes what you need to do is set the ladder up against the wall you got the level adjusters as you run a plank off a 2 x 12 to the ladder and your scaffolding a just kind of go off that you’ll figure it out you got enough brains
Put the 36 in in front of the staircase and put your 2x12 all your platforms on the step by the staircase and on top of the end of the scaffolding you must have something on the other side of the far end of the scaffolding to weigh it down so when you step on the top of the platforms on the staircase it won't tilt either direction and if you can find something to tie too like a post or something to keep the scaffolding from moving or tilting away
Now you need a TRAILER.
This summer I rented Safway scaffolding. Nine end frames with 18 planks to span 30 feet. $280 for the month.
Little giant ladders are good for stairs 👍🏼