Baptist and Catholic (Catholic Conversation with a Baptist about Faith Alone)
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- Baptist and Catholic. A true conversation with a Catholic and a Baptist about whether we are saved by faith alone. Does faith alone really save us? Can we know we are saved? Catholics say no!
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Ephesians 2:8-9 For by Grace you have been saved through Faith, and this is not your own doing but the gift of God. Not a result of works so that no one may boast.
Saved through Faith! Show your faith through works but it’s not works that get us to Heaven
I mean. Yeah, that's 100% saved through faith and not works. And verse 10 states that God has work for us to do. So in my mind, He saved us as a gift and expects us to use this gift to do his works.
Another great video. Brian, you have some of the most informative Catholic videos. Thank you for defending the faith of the one true church and for serving as an educational instrument to all of us Christians, both Catholic and non-Catholic. Keep it up and God bless!
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching!
@@arianacruz4333 yet.. I didn't do it in love. I just praise God that the Holy Spirit is still leading me. The truth is in Jesus.
I am a lifelong Baptist who recently came fully into the Catholic Church. Praise the Lord!
Welcome Home to Rome. I am a former Episcopalian currently enrolled in RCIA. Thanks be to God. My brother is Baptist and fully believes he no longer needs to repent for anymore sin because he is "saved" and will be raptured up later this year.
Yes praise be to Jesus! Thank you Jesus! 🙌🙌
@@johns1834 So happy to hear it!
@@J-PLeigh8409 Praise God you are coming home too. Thank you Lord!
Welcome home... nobody is late or early when u find the truth... praise God!!
I really needed this video. Some Southern Baptist people came to my house unannounced a week ago and interrogated me on faith and if I’m saved. It was extremely uncomfortable. I visited their church ONCE with my aunt, and now I can’t seem to shoo them away. They became passive aggressive once I mentioned I was Catholic. Then they prayed over me for “clearness of thought and understanding.” They’ll be back soon, I’ll use this video for next time! Thank you and God bless!!!!
Awesome! Glad we cam help. Also check out these videos if you are interested.
1. Being saved is false: th-cam.com/video/yJbQfs3dte4/w-d-xo.html
2. Bible verses that prove the Catholic faith: th-cam.com/video/bMIFdiUt0q4/w-d-xo.html
K.T. thats a good idea. Yup show them this video. Also CATHOLIC TRUTH has a video with Steve Ray X Baptist on explaining the Catholic truth. Check the video out...👍🏼🕊️ God bless..
@@CatholicTruthOfficial im honestly hoping you can debunk a video on youtube called: Roman Catholicism:Contending for the faith by Mike Winger. He is very respectful and even admits he wish he was wrong about the church, he is not a troll. He talks about the papacy and authority of the church and quotes the catechism. What he says makes me doubt if Roman Catholicism is the most true instead of Orthodox Christianity
This happened to me almost 16 years ago and it runied my life, dont fall into Protestantism. Thankfully you have TH-cam and Catholics that are now defending the faith. I was taught no apologetics and it left me a sitting duck for them. I know the truth now though
@@user-lh5li8ll7i im not even considering protestantism, its mostly some of the authority claims, which Orthodoxy doesn't have while maintaining the importance of the Eucharistic.
Brian your a true treasure of the Church. We need more like you. All of our problems today with people who do not understand the REAL reason for poor human behavior can be directly traced to this false idea that there is no need for accountability to the faith that requires direction from the Church…..the one, true Holy Catholic Apostolic Church!!!
Thank you! God bless.
I’ve been a southern Baptist all 21 years of my life, I went to a Catholic Church last week on a bet and now I’m thinking about becoming one because I felt truly closer to God
Wow! Definitely check out our videos as they will help you to understand the Catholic faith more. I'm glad you felt God's presence there.
Here's another video if you interested. th-cam.com/video/cKGRCJQLSMo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=noChBwNjAR2E1tFU
That is amazing. Keep descending. Fall in love with Christ even more in His church. God bless you.
Hahah Amen😂 God has a sense of humor
Don’t do it!!!!
God bless you. I can’t help but to hear steve-o ❤
I walked away from the church a long time ago. Then I wanted to reestablish my relationship with God but I didn't want anything to do with the Catholic Church. So I went church shopping for a while, trying out various strands of non-denominational Protestant churches but I always felt like a stranger. I remember one pastor asking what I was looking for and I told him I don't know, but I'll know it when I find it. I thought I was getting close with this one church and I stuck around for a while. The pastor was a good guy and I remember him telling me the difference between him and a Catholic was that he was certain he had a spot in heaven whereas if you ask a Catholic he'll tell you he's not sure.
This struck me as a bold, somewhat dangerous statement and later, when he was removed for having an affair with a member of the church, I thought back to his claim and wondered if he still stood by it. But I liked the guy on a personal level so I was sad to him falling like that. But it wasn't his misstep that made me leave. What made me walk away from that bunch was the public display the elders made when they were christening this young man to take over. I don't like public shaming and I especially don't like people who wear their faith on their sleeve. It has always smacked of self-righteousness. So, they had this big passing of the torch sort of thing where the elders all placed their hands on this kid and asked everybody to join in. I look around and everyone had their arms extended. I wasn't sure if I was in a church or a beer-hall in 1930s Germany.
Anyway, while they were in the midst of that I walked out, figuring that was it. I had struck out with more than a few Protestant churches and I figured I was done with trying to find a church. Then one day I drive by a Catholic church and a strange idea comes to me. What about the Catholics? My friend had been trying to talk me into giving the old faith another go but I was like no way. I had a bad experience with a bad parish when I was a kid and that was it as far as I was concerned.
But something told me I needed to go. So that Sunday, I show up for Mass, and five minutes in I knew I was home. Just like I told that pastor, I didn't know what I was looking for but I would know when I found it. That day I knew I had found it. I was home. And it's no coincidence in my mind that it happened on the day the church celebrated the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary. From the time I was a young child, our Blessed Mother had always held a special place in my heart. She led me home that day. I am as sure of that as anything in my life. God left the light on for me and I'm back. And I'm never leaving again. He waited patiently for his lost sheep to make his way back. It took 40 plus years but if I can do it, anyone can.
I know my place in Heaven is earned, and I'm doing my best to get there. As James said, faith without works is dead. That pastor was a good guy but he had it wrong. I hope he realized it after his fall from Grace because that is what happens when you get too comfortable in this life. Anyway, this has been a long post but thanks for the video. Great message.
Wow! What a great testimony. Praise be to God. So many former Catholics go shopping for a while, some longer than others oh, but so many end up finding their way back home thanks be to God. I just had a debate with a Protestant on once saved always saved. It's about five or six videos back if you're interested in watching it, but I specifically mentioned that so many Protestant pastors get into sins that can destroy their relationship with God as enumerated in 1 Corinthians 6:9, seems like adultery and things like that. In any case, thanks so much for sharing. How long have you been back in the church now?
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It will be one year August 15th. As I mentioned, I will always remember the date because it was the same day the Mass celebrated the Assumption of our Blessed Mother. I am a member of a great parish with a real family-like atmosphere and the priests are great. It is night and day from the church I attended when I was young and I love being home.
Nice testimony and welcome back.. mother Mary led you back to the church... we all sin and that is inevitable... what is more important is repentance and coming back to the Lord everytime.. we cannot like Judas give up but like Peter keep coming back to HIM
What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing. And welcome Home. ❤
Catholic teaching is so strong cause it's come from Christ 🙏
@@sammygomes7381
Explain
@@sammygomes7381
Moses die, yet he appear to Jesus in the transfiguration. The body return to dust, the spirit goes back to God. If you read the whole new testament you will see those brothers of Jesus was from a different woman with different father. You would probably think Mary had 500 children's. Reading, 1 Corinthians 15:6
So why do you pray to Mary then?
@@Chieffam15
Cause she is with her son Jesus, and Jesus answers her prayers for us. There are lots of miracles through her to her son. They are more alive than we are. The Bible is clear we are surrounded by clouds of witnesses.
@@Catholic1391“At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:”
John 16:26 KJV
Saved by faith also mean believing he’s the one way the truth , and by believing him we ourselves try to become our better self like to be him,
In simple words if we have faith in him , we also do all the righteous work, if u say u have faith but do all the bad things intentionally that’s not faith,,,
So yes we are saved by faith.
Being saved by faith is not just believing. It's also following and obeying Christ. You can believe all you want, but if you're not faithful to the gospel, you want to be saved no matter what kind of faith you think you have.
Correct, saved by faith. We have faith after baptism that God will help us strive to be perfect. However, he will not do it FOR you. He will only present us with the opportunities to be perfect, it's still up to us to make the right decision. If we make the wrong decision and are fully aware of it, then you my friend have put your salvation in jeopardy. When being Baptized we are making the biggest commitment in life (which is why I disagree on baptizing babies, they have no idea om what that commitment brings).
@@CatholicTruthOfficialThat's a contradictions seeing that Catholics baptize babies, who grow up learning from repeating sinful behavior, so are babies the only exception in Catholicism to be saved by faith sinning after the fact they were baptized? Batism is the biggest commitment above marriage. It's a commitment to the lord to live a sinless and God fulfilled life, babies have not one clue about that nor can they consent. It's why ive had to be re-batized as an adult especially because I don't even remember being baptized as a baby and what that meant.
The contradictions are endless with Catholicism.
Titus 3:5-6 KJV
[5] NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED US, ..........by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; [6] which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
We're not saved by works or kept saved by works.
Washing of regeneration refers to baptism which we are saved by. Confirmed in Mk. 16:16 and 1 Pet. 3:21 among other verses.
Also, we agree that we are not saved by our works, but they are necessary to accompany faith if that faith is going to be salvific. If your faith does not continually have works or if it produces evil works then it's not going to save you.
James 2:24: " so you see my brother and that we are justified by works and not by faith alone."
James 2:26 and the body apart from the soul is dead so faith without works is dead.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
Way too much wrong with your theology for anyone to fix over a TH-cam post.
And the fact that you have a Catholic channel, shows how indoctrinated you are.
A back and forth wouldn't resolve anything.
Good luck getting to heaven the Catholic way. 👍
The problem with protestant hypocrisy is that there's error in protestant theology and the fact is that you are part catholic because protestants keep a lot of catholic theology, also faith alone could apply to anyone, Muslims have faith in Christ but only as a prophet and not the son of God, also works are the fruits of the holy spirit by fulfillment of the law and not by living by it which was impossible before Christ which is why the high priest had to make sacrifices for the forgiveness of the peoples sins, this is what Paul states the law is for sinners and not for the righteous for Yeshua is the enteral high priest of the church and has and will set apart a born again spirit from the rest.
I'm not Catholic btw
Can you clarify where this word "only" is removed, been comparing my Catholic bible to other bibles I believe the Baptists used, and looking for your claim that Martian Luther King altered Romans 3:28 but with no success. God bless and thank you.
Same here. I'm protestant and use NASB and King James.
@@ottovonapps Any luck finding this claim? I'm Catholic
@@modjohn no, i haven't yet.
Brian, thanks for being gracious (from a protestant), but NASB does not say "faith alone." FYI
It does in James, 2:24. :)
Not sure if you missed that. God bless and thank you for watching.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I think you said it does in Romans 3:28 tho. Maybe I didn't hear you correctly, but double check
I think it's both. Faith in Christ leads to the desire to please God with obedience to His Word.
Wow! I was just talking to a Protestant who was quoting me all of these verses about being saved apart from the works of the law, and my intuition (maybe the Holy Spirit?) was telling me the words "of the law" were key. Or I'm just a lawyer and read into everything. So I told him I think those are different. I'll subscribe now. :-D
@@sammygomes7381 I’m not sure the relevance. Who said the thief on the cross did any works? Not I. Just because God establishes normative means by which we are saved (“repent and be baptized”) does not mean that others can be saved in abnormal circumstances.
Do you believe babies can be saved without faith? Or people who have never heard the Gospel but lived according to God’s law on their hearts?
@@sammygomes7381 It’s nice to see we actually agree on some things! Catholics also believe that about children. We don’t do sacrifices though-the only sacrifice that save us is Christ’s!
How's that possible when all the thief on the cross did was believe in Jesus name? That's it...no baptism, no works. if it's true for him why not everyone?
@@minterbell Why do the catechisms teach the 2nd commandment is you shall not take the Lord your name in vain?
The scriptures record the second, which is missing from the catechism as
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
The catechism removes the 2nd commandment and splits the 10th into two parts making it the ten commandments but really missing number 2. Why is that, when it can be found in multiple manuscripts. The dead sea scrolls pre dated anything we had at 1940'e by over a thousand years when they were discovered so we know that the scripture did not change for a thousand year period and since we have those earlier copies we know that the ten commandments included commandment number two which was taken out by the catechism.
One of the earliest known copies of the Ten Commandments was written in soot on a strip of goatskin found among the trove of biblical material known as the Dead Sea Scrolls, widely considered to be one of the great archaeological finds of the 20th century.
@@minterbell yeah I just never understood why it seems like you have to be forced to go into their church and forced to take certain rights and certain things you have to do. What about people and remote areas of the jungle who all they have is a missionary who gave them a Bible and told them short stories and then left. They don't have a church that they can go to and they can't take the rites often. What about them I wonder
Saved by faith which is repenting and surrender to his saving grace, and you are not willing to do his will, how do u show u love him if u don't do his commandment. Faith without work is dead
I'm baptist and I love your channel it has blessed me with knowledge , I don't really look down on Catholics like other protestants do , I wish we will be united
Thank you so much! So glad you enjoy our channel! God be with you!
I think the Protestant view of salvation is popular because it’s hard to misunderstand. It’s very simple and people hate being too inconvenienced to investigate and grasp “sophisticated” concepts. And it just seems reverent, safe, and even devout to say “Jesus alone!” Or “bible alone!” Or “faith alone!”
The Catholic view perhaps isn’t complex or hard to understand, but it’s definitely MORE to understand and to consider than the Protestant view. As a Catholic, I myself struggle to understand what it really takes to be saved. Does this mean the church should change it’s teaching? Does this mean Luther’s deformation is justified? Nope! Just means those of us struggling to understand haven’t put nearly enough effort to really grasp the concept and that we shouldn’t run off to some sect that doesn’t contain the full truth (and authority) of Christianity that only the Catholic Church contains.
With that said, this channel and many other Catholic apologetic channels have greatly aided in my understanding of not only the Catholic faith, but also the deficiencies of the Protestant theologies. Another fantastic and criminally underrated channel is “How to be a Christian”
Baptist roots begin with contradictory statements from Martin Luther who said; 'Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly.' Seriously, how is that even possible? Peter also says in 2 Peter 3; some of Paul's writings are hard to understand which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction.
Wide road that is easy to travel vs narrow road that is difficult to find and to travel. So yes, it is a good point that many people prefer the easy road even though it's not correct.
Brandon, we will be having other videos too on this topic that hopefully will help you. if you haven't watched out our debate on being saved, check that out. th-cam.com/video/yJbQfs3dte4/w-d-xo.html
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I hope I missed the point here. Or am I right that you agree with this: Protestantism = wide road leading to destruction = all protestants will go to hell and all catholics + Islam, Jews, atheists living according to their conscious, pachamama worshipers and actually all people except protestants are on the narrow road? Even from statistic point of view this is not Biblical, because the second group has superiority in numbers. Could you please explain what exactly is your stance on this? We should be careful of our judgements and you as a teacher should be careful even more as the Bible is very strict about it.
@@sammygomes7381 Peter wrote in 2 Peter 1 20 " First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation", Can you tell me where the word "Trinity" is in the Bible? Can you tell me where the word "Bible" is in the Bible (other than the cover). How could you know these terms unless someone taught you? Jesus gave authority to the Apostles to teach and preach and interpret the Gospel and pass that unbroken line of authority on to others. Also, Hebrews didn't use the word "cousin" and what "we call" a cousin was called a brother or sister in Hebrew.
James doesn't contradict Paul. If we have faith, we will also have works.
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. You can tell a tree by it's fruit.". (Matt 7: 18-23).
"I am the true Vine and my Father is the vinegrower. He prunes away every barren branch...I am the vine and you are the branches. He who lives in me and I in him, will produce abundantly, ... a man who does not live in me is like a withered, rejected branch, picked up to be thrown into the fire and burnt."
(John 15: 1-6,)
How does one produce good fruit ? BY DOING GOOD WORKS !!!
"None of those who cry 'Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of God, but only the one who DOES the Will of my Father in Heaven.'"
(Matt 7: 21)
What do u mean by good fruit? Do you mean fruit of the spirit?
one could argue now that matthew 7:21 refers to 6:40, where it says: "For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”
then the fruit becomes something else than good works. the good fruit is multiplying the faith.
another key to this passage is: saying lord lord or believing in your heart that he is lord. there is the difference
The only reason why ive converted from Catholicism to Baptist is idolizaton in Catholicism. I was Catholic for almost 25 years before converting, and the more you read your bible in depth, the more you realize many things that are not advised are practiced in Catholicism; like calling a pastor "Father", when in Matthew Ch.23 is says not to call anyone who preaches a Father or Rabbi.
Now, do I think all catholics intentionally idolize other things besides god? No. But praying to saints and Mary is idolizaton of those people and their works, tho they were still MORTAL HUMANS as you and I. Its stated clearly in the bible that the only person we pray to is God. Nowhere in the bible is it stated to pray to Mary or ANY saints. Do we still respect said people? Of course! But they are not god to answer prayers, unless we pray directly to God for assitance and by God sent.
We as Baptists do not believe we are saved only by faith. If that were true we wouldnt get baptized. Baptism is done to be saved and show a commitment of a sinless life and to accept God as our savior, as stated by John and Jesus. Its a union with god. For example, if we are married we made a commitment to not cheat on our spouses, if we cheat we could lose our marriage. Same with batism, its a commitment to no longer sin, but if i murder someone i will most definitely lose my place in heaven. Humans however are not perfect, and everyone sins (even catholics). But the idea is to strive to be as perfect as possible. *If youre baptist and sinning on purpose then you are not reading your bible, just like if you're catholic and sinning on purpose you are not saved soley by confessing.* We do not believe its only by faith, just how catholics do not believe its soley by confession, there is much more depth. We do not *Praise* others other than god, which would be blasphemy to praise anyone other than god. Baptists read their Bibles in DEPTH, from the front cover to the back. It clearly stated in the bible what is a sin and what path to follow.
*If youre sinning on purpose, then your father is not God but the Devil. If God is your Father you would want to do good deeds like him, but if youre doing bad deeds then you have more similarities to the Devil.* Jesus makes this same speech in John Chapter 8 when saving the Adulterous Woman from being Stoned. *People Read Your Bible!!!* Any Baptist, Catholics, or Christian in General that tells you there are "passes" for sinning, do not read their bibles. I mean, didn't Catholics sell Indugences at one point in history? You know? A one way ticket to heaven you pay for? We all learned about that one in history class.
*Its not about what SECTOR you follow, its about reading and understanding your BIBLE!!* Dont even get me started with baby baptisms when its clear they cant consent nor understand the meaning of baptism. Baby baptisms are not stated anywhere in the bible, and are also done by faith alone. Oh my what contradictions. It's not the religion, it's God and the Bible thats important. Catholicism is more a cult, which is exactly why I left. It's also cruel to tell people a baby goes to limbo if they're not baptized, when a baby doesn't even know the first thing about being baptized, let alone the concept of death. That mt friend is by faith alone, because a child will sin regardless. I was batized as a baby and sinned regardless as a child. It wasn't until I was an adult that I fully understood. There are so many contradictions in religion, which is why I advise people to just read their bibles without ties to a sector. Just be Christians and Read. The Bible will tell you everything and set all the things that are expected of you as a CHRISTIAN. (No specific sector)
Why does it say in the scriptures to WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING
It's strange how two of the most forceful teachings of the Gospel - the necessity of works accompanying faith and the Body and Blood of our Lord in the holy Eucharist - are the two teachings so strenuously denied by so called Bible believing Christians. I don't think it's an accident.
@@sammygomes7381 God bless you! We memorialize Christs sacrifice by being at the Cross sacramentally. Not a new sacrifice but _The_ Sacrifice that Christ offers to the Father on our behalf. God wants us to experience this sacrifice in our bodies and souls just as if we were there on Calvary so we deepen our love for Him and for our brothers and sisters, for the poor, the unloved and the lonely. God bless your understanding and your heart! ❤️🙏❤️
@@sammygomes7381 okay brother, I love you anyway in the Lord! God bless you and your family ❣️
@@rhwinner The Catholic Mass is the FULFILMENT in the Book of Malachi.
@@rhwinner
Hoodoo
“It’s living faith that saves us” yes. Exactly. And living faith is that faith which comes with obedience.
Also, if Protestants are reading their interpretations in Romans 3, 4 and Ephesians 2… what are the Catholics doing when they divide up justification into two parts? Is two-part justification explicitly taught in scripture? No. You read “we are saved by grace through faith”/!: then add the word “initially.” So just like Luther “added” “alone,” the RCC has added “initially.”
Are you trying to debunk the Catholic church or the Protestant Church?
We are saved buy the blood of Jesus, Jesus saves us.
how are we saved Jesus was asked this question How did he answer it wasn't you are saved by my blood🤦♀🤦♀
@@biblealone9201 salvation is so ez to understand and receive a child can understand. I know religious like to make it complicated. But unschooled people with a Bible can easily do the work of the ministry
@@ryanehlis426 well what did Jesus say how did he answer he didnt say by my blood now did he what did he say in the bible😁😁Its not complicated
@@biblealone9201 he said we must be born again
@@ryanehlis426 yup the water and Spirit which is Baptism didnt say anything about blood did it'
well what did Jesus say how did he answer he didnt say by my blood now did he what did he say in the bible😁😁Its not complicated
good WORK brother :-)
Thank you very much, great video really clear and simple explanation . Keep up the good " works"
How's that possible when all the thief on the cross did was believe in Jesus name? That's it...no baptism, no works.
THEY WILL KNOW WE ARE CHRISTIANS BY OUR LOVE
Works in Romans 4 is not referring to works of the Mosaic Law. Paul is discussing how Abraham was saved, and Abraham was not saved by works but by faith. Abraham predates the Mosaic Law and thus “works” here is not “works of the law.”
It's absolutely 100% referring to the mosaic law _which is why_ it mentions circumcision 9 times. You have to read it in context. It specifically talks about jews vs gentiles.
We agree that it predates the mosaic law. The jews that they were saved by circumcision and Paul was saying that Abraham was saved before his circumcision showing that circumcision is _not_ needed for salvation which was Paul's main point.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial As I know you are well aware, circumcision is a sign of the covenant God made with Abraham. And when Paul references Abraham's justification by works, or lack thereof, he simply cannot be talking about works of the law. You may say, and you would be correct, that Paul is talking about Abraham not being justified by his circumcision. But, sir, that is not the same thing as saying that Abraham was not justified by the works of the law. You are "adding" "of the law" to Paul's reference of works in Romans 4. And adding it when it pertains to a character that it could not possibly pertain to, namely Abraham.
I came back to the Catholic church 2 weeks back. Was with AOG.
Chris! Welcome back!!! Praise be to God. If we can be of help, please let us know.
Once saved/always saved (even for unrepentant sinning) Baptist and Episcopalians (who claim homosexuality is not a sin anymore) love to quote Romans 8:38-39 saying nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God. The word "else" implies there is something else, and the words "love of God" implies you must do what God wants to keep his love. They ignore verses like John 14:21-24 saying he who keep my commandments...I will love him, and Hosea 9:15 Because of the wickedness of their deeds....I will love them no more. Thanks Brian. Great video.
It always struck me as extremely arrogant to say that Catholicism is the one true church. To say that, implies that other churches are invalid. For someone to worship God and try their best to live by the teachings of the Bible, they’re doing what they can do, and it’s up to God to determine the validity of the of their faith and heart. I’d find it very hard to believe that God would actually view Catholics as “the one true church”.
But what if God did start one church, and he did. And what if it was the Catholic Church, then wouldn't it be true? Doesn't it strike you as odd that all of these other churches came over 15 centuries later?
I am a Bible believing Protestant and would like to know if you would like to discuss this video. I am not just watching your videos to refute them, but I do have some disagreements with this video. I have subscribed to know more about the catholic belief as to write a book. I would love to talk further, thanks.
I encourage you to read as much as you can on the Church Fathers, and all of pre-Reformation Christianity, Brother. Protestantism is man-made.
Hey Rick. I humbly just ask that you steel man Catholic arguments. Most who argue with the church do so without goodwill and straw man what she preaches.
The “salvation by works” is one of those areas. I hear it over and over again. The Catholic Church does not teach that at all. She teaches that Faith cannot be separated from works. They are inextricably linked. If
you love someone, you are going to do good works for them and with them. The essence of love is DOING things for the good of the other. Imagine a marriage with no good works. We would not call that love. We are called by Jesus to LOVE the Lord our God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. We are called to deny ourselves and follow him. We are called to submit our will like Jesus did in willingly going to the cross. He says if we love him obey my commandments. He says that he will say who are you I never knew you because you didn’t DO the things as someone who has devoted their lives to His virtues.
God Bless you sir.
@Rick Jenkins, we would be happy to talk to you. Feel free to email us at info@thecatholictruth.org. our Administrative Assistant that I told you to forward it to me (Bryan) God bless.
@@G-MIP Just curious, why do you say that no Protestant has ever written a truthful book on the Catholic Church? That would seem to suggest that you have read them all. I have all intentions in writing the true Catholic beliefs and I wouldn’t lie. Now if I make a mistake I will correct that mistake. I would hate to think you made a broad statement, then find out that their was a Protestant that wrote a book that was true about Catholics. I would never say any broad statement about any Catholic without knowing I was right. I hope that my book will do the right by Catholics and that is why I am spending so much time on research first. While waiting to write that book I am writing a fictional Christian book that required less research. I am also in school to be a Baptist pastor and have preached several sermon’s at my church. I try hard in all I do to be accurate and completely honest at all times. I am also a licensed insurance agent which requires that I am honest with all my customers or I am subject to prison time. So yes the truth matters in every aspect of my life. I know that your heart was in the right place when you posted that comment and I thank you for your feedback. I hope that when it is finished you will like it.
@@PatrickSteil Hi, you sound like a really good and very knowledgeable person. I agree that if you love someone then your works will show that. As a Protestant, I can say that we believe that you know a true Christian by their works. However, we say that works don’t save you. In this video he told us that works don’t give you initial salvation, thus they must help with you keeping your salvation. See, we believe that once you are saved that no one can take you out of the hand of Jesus. He says so in John 10:28-30 and I would like to show Romans 4:4 which states “Now to the one who works, his wage is not counted According to grace, but according to what is due.” This shows us that grace has nothing to do with works. If you are saved by works then their is no grace. If you are saved by grace, then it is apart from works. Their are many more that I can show and I can easily explain that James isn’t contradicting my point either. See James is saying you know you have Salvation, if you have good works to prove it. See works don’t save you, but they show that you are saved. That is how we can judge whether one is saved or not. If you can lose your salvation then it is not eternal.
You accused the man of reading his own ideas into the text, but you then, according to your account of the story, did that very same thing in Ephesians and Luke back to back.
Where did we say that? What exactly did we say? And how did we do it ourselves? These are conjectures without evidence
Thank you very much. I’m a new Christian and I’m reading through the Bible. I am watching a through the Bible with a Protestant Pastor to help me along. Of course, he says a lot of negative things about Catholicism. But, one thing about me that I treasure is that I have an open mind and am not afraid of changing my mind. You really helped me gain a new perspective that I haven’t considered.
I followed Jesus Christ straight into the Catholic Church, it took ten years though, ten years of prayer, fasting and study.
If you are searching for the TRUTH, your search will end within the catholic church... not with pastors bcoz Jesus established only one church I.e the catholic church..(i am not saying this to ridicule or mock anyone but when one checks the early church history and their practices, they were all catholic)...God bless!!
@@sammygomes7381 true, the rosary came later but if you carefully look at its components, you will realise the rosary points to critical times in the life of "Jesus" on earth and not really on Mary... the apostles creed is our belief which talks about the holy trinity, the our father is the lord's prayer, the hail Mary is what angel Gabriel told to Mary and is a scripture verse.. there are a few additions but they do not "worship" mother Mary but only adore her.. unfortunately, protestants do not go into detailing and so do not understand these basic things.. God bless !!
@@sammygomes7381 and yes if you claim that the early church was not catholic why do protestants not celebrate the eucharist, the early fathers kept the lord's day and celebrated the eucharist with utmost fervour, so who is not keeping with the early traditions? To me protestants are becoming their own "pope" and hence are deviating more and more from the truth... some protestant groups are fine with same sex marriages and they will twist the word of God to accommodate this... how do you answer this?
@@sammygomes7381 friend, this is exactly the ignorance that protestants keep preaching, read the words of some of the early church fathers and decide for your self, your own ignorance...
I am quoting some so that you can research more on it yourself...
Ignatius of Antioch (c. 110 A.D.)
I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the Bread of God, WHICH IS THE FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I DESIRE HIS BLOOD, which is love incorruptible. (Letter to the Romans 7:3)
Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: FOR THERE IS ONE FLESH OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and one cup IN THE UNION OF HIS BLOOD; one ALTAR, as there is one bishop with the presbytery… (Letter to the Philadelphians 4:1)
They [i.e. the Gnostics] abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that THE EUCHARIST IS THE FLESH OF OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again. (Letter to Smyrnians 7:1)
My mother recently joined a baptist church, and she was very wise and intelligent. I want to prove to her the Catholic faith. But i tried twice and i failed. Please help me. 🙏
Send her some of these videos. We have like five or six videos on the Baptist faith and why it's wrong.
Also pray for her more than you evangelize her so that God can do the heavy lifting.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thank you kind sir!
Baptist follow What written in bible unlike catholic who do Idolatry….Our only saviour is Lord GOD Jesus Christ not mary…Maximum catholic refuse to call themselves Christian…
@@milkmen69 The most false thing I've ever heard from a person who is not even saved
I took some time to try and understand the Catholic view on salvation and the first video I watch was perhaps the most unconvincing I've ever seen. Let me just dump a few points
1. The second half of Romans 1 makes no implication towards being about pagans. It's directed clearly at reprobates concerning the faith per verse 28.
2. 3:28 is a strawman because Christians do not claim to be saved "just by doing some things". We know we are saved by faith in what Christ already did, not what we can do.
3. Attempting to dismiss the verses supporting faith alone in Romans by saying "that's talking about works of the law" is deliberately ignoring the fact that in Rom 11 Paul states "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." This principle alone contradicts the idea that justification can include works of any kind mixed with grace. See also Titus 3:5
Of course there are more points which I'd discuss if I got a response from someone sincere. If not then hopefully I will find someone more convincing
We are not dismissing any verses; it just that there not any verses that prove faith alone. Just ignoring and dismissing all the explanations we gave doesn't save your man-made doctrine. That's the point. All the verses protestants use condemn works, the works of the law, but never good works and it never teaches faith alone. In fact, the only time in scripture that faith alone is mentioned together is in James, where it says "we are not saved by faith alone." James 2:24
As someone who is researching all denominations of Christianity, I am a Baptist as I have found I most align with the beliefs I have formed from research of the Church and a reading of scripture. I definitely agree that I have found no scripture of this assurance of going to heaven and instead an assurance of God being present in your life. Catholics are definitely still brothers in Christ and I apologize on behalf of the Protestants that say otherwise. God bless you🙏❤️
James 2:14
My Brothers, what benefits is there if someone claims to have faith, but he does not have works? How his Faith be Able to save him?
Thank you again Sir Bryan, for another clarification.. l used to believe this verse
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace, you have been saved through faith. And this is not of yourselves, for it is a gift of God.
And this is not of works, so that no one may glory.
Many of the Protestant are wrong..
Roman Catholic is the 1 true Church of Christ..👍👍🙏🙏⛪⛪
Amen ✝️
This is very typical of Baptist Christians regarding this issue. When Baptists can’t “win” they get angry…. and sometimes abusive verbally. Hebrews 12: 14.
That has been out experience too. Often they have no problem condemning, insulting, threatening, calling names, etc.
I’m in the baby stages of becoming Catholic and watching this video really helped me. Thank you so much and bless you
Just accept Jesus. All will fall in line. Go to a good, Bible believing church.
It's hard, because after all you are not the head of the church. And the head of the church refuses to talk too much into this topic for a reason. And we're not evangelicals to 'direct' or to teach, it can only mean so much as a Catholic
We do not need to be the head of the church to teach and preach as we have a long history and tradition of authoritative teaching that we pull from.
Can you explain to me how the thief on the cross was saved? Also did the law die on the cross with Jesus?
Sure. The thief on the cross is an exception to the rule because Jesus had not died or risen from the dead yet, and the Christian church had not started yet. Therefore, this is still Old Testament times. Thus, he js not held to the same New Testament Commandments or standards. Plus, the Catholic Church teaches that if you have a deathbed conversion, you can still be saved. Again, it's an exception, but not the rule.
The law was fulfilled I Christ. Obviously there are certain parts that we don't need to follow anymore like the judicial laws, the dietary laws, and so on, but we always need to follow the moral law, like the commandments and the law that God has put on a heart.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you would do well to follow the dietary laws. The body is a temple, not a graveyard.
Another great video, Brian. So you teach that you can be saved and not go to Heaven. What would that make your definition of "saved", be? Will there be "saved" people in the lake of fire?
How do your "good works" affect "purgatory" for you personally?
I think one of the scariest verses in the bible is Matthew 7:22. How are these required "good works" you speak of any different than the one the people did in Mt 7:22? Trust me, when anyone stands before Jesus, and He says "depart" from Me, I never knew you", it won't be good for their eternity.
Exactly Dan. People can be saved and not go to heaven. The reason this is is because we're using the word in two different ways. The word saved is used in different ways in the Bible. Many different ways with many different meanings. Sadly, non-catholics force it to me one and only one thing, and that means automatically going to heaven.
The word saved in the Bible has a past, present, and future meaning depending on the text. It also is used in different ways from initial justification, to temporal justification, to eschatological justification. Again, most Protestants don't believe this, but the ones that do accept eternal security have narrowed this definition of save down to one and only one definition. The eschatological one.
So there can be different kinds of saving in the Bible talks about different kinds of saving. One depends on the text and the Greek and the context. Just as a random analogy, let's say that someone has a drug overdose. And someone rushes to their side and does CPR and gets them to the hospital and saves their life. They were saved. But that doesn't mean it's a guarantee that they will not do drugs again or have the same thing happen again in the future. If Christ saves us and we are in him, that does not give us a guarantee that we will remain in him or not fall away. Of course, even people who fall away can be saved again by calling out to Christ. Hope this helps.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Lots of words. So one can be saved by the grace of God and go to hell. That's an interesting g analogy, but I'm good.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Brian, again I would like for you to answer my questions regarding how your required "good works" affect purgatory, for each individual, and who you interpret the people are in Mt 7:22 boasting of their "mighty works, in Jesus's name?"
@@sammygomes7381 agreed. I was hoping Brian would give me his opinion on who Jesus is speaking of in Mt. 7:22. But I believe in the finished work of Jesus on the cross as you do.
@@sammygomes7381 I agree partially. I also think they are boasting of the mighty works they did in Jesus name. He said, "I never knew you". Those are the people that think they will enter Heaven by their own righteousness, and righteous acts. It's about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, not legalism, or my works.
Blind leading the blind... I pray you all open your eyes to see the truth...
Our eyes are already opened wide, but thanks for the prayers.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial what a blind man would say
@@alfredoromero3243 I once was blind like you, but now I see. I’m Catholic
Faith alone.
Bible disagrees (James 2:24)
@@CatholicTruthOfficial You just don't understand that true faith is living faith. Living faith causes us to move into action. Good works is really just a byproduct of real faith. Nobody who has real faith will sit idle.
FAITH GRACE. LOVE...MATT 25: 31-40
Is repenting from your sins and praying considered good works?
There are different definitions of good works, but yes. Love and repentance are good works.
I understand good works as any conscious act done out of obedience and love for God through His grace. While in the state of sin no good works can be accomplished, same as a corpse cannot perform a good work.
Not sure if this correct - haven’t researched what the church says about this, but it seems like anything you do to submit your will to God is a good and pleasing thing yo God.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thanks. Is it a sin not to pay tithe sometimes?
Confessional Lutheran here. Even though Martin Luther was ground zero of the Reformation, the more I watch these kinds of videos, the more I see just how closely we are still aligned w/ our Catholic brethren than the other protestant denominations. It's kind of funny because a Catholic and someone from say the Missouri or Wisconsin Synod Lutheran Church can be going back and forth over some points but then someone else from another protestant denomination can come up and say something, and then the Catholic and Lutheran will stop, turn in unison and say, "What?! The bible doesn't say that at all!" 😄
What about the verse James 2:24? I think that fits well here.
How do you explain the thief on the cross? Did Jesus lie to him?? God forbid. And how do you explain Roman 10: 9-10
Thanks for the question. The thief on the cross is an exception to the rule because Jesus had not even died and risen yet, and therefore the Christian church was not even started yet nor were New Testament ordinances. Consequently, he is still under Old Covenant times and not held to the same New Testament commandments or church standards. Further, the Catholic Church teaches that if you have a deathbed conversion you can still be saved. If he had lived, he would have been required to be baptized and live out his faith, just like everyone else in Scripture.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I love that even though you answered this question a few weeks ago here, you still bothered to type up a New answer, rather than repost your prior answer.
It was hard to accept because it meant the foundation of my life was wrong, and that initial salvation was real, I didn’t realize it was always meant to be that vivid and real through the sacraments and intercession of Saints and Mary. But I’m following Christ home.
Amen, Amen. Praise be to God. May God continue to bless you on your journey.
Such an amazing show and episode. Thank you sir!
Hello! As this is another video on salvation, though more tangentially with the certainty question, I wish to say, you did a phenomenal job with the context this time on many verses!
You asserted: “are we saved by faith alone; and can we know with absolute certainty that we can go to heaven? The answer is 'no' and 'no.'” If you don't mind, as you seem rather versed (pardon the pun) compared to the people at that Baptist church, perhaps someone else who is rather versed can walk through this with you for your audience? Hopefully, we can continue our good conversation from last video.
1)Great job on Romans 3:28! It doesn't say faith alone; you're 100% correct. Alone is an addition for notating the singular of “faith” to deny the plurals 'faiths,' 'works,' or 'faith + [anything]' according to the context of Rom 3:27. As it asks how we boast, is it of the principle/law of works [not “works of the Law”]? No, but through the singular principle/law of faith. Justification is by the principle/law of faith, singular, not by actions such as belief [that is] alone or belief + works. Faith will never be alone, belief can be and often is alone. One can believe that* the flying spaghetti monster is real, but that neither makes it real nor does that belief do anything for them or the world. It's alone. Likewise, a belief alone that* God saves you doesn't grant salvation. Belief/faith alone in* God's salvific work of life, death, and resurrection for you will make you justified/cleansed before God, v27-28, and will cause good works to flow from you (Rom 6:15-19 & 12:9-21 + other letters/books).
2)Great job on Romans 1, 2, & 4, as Paul does condemn people acting in sin unilaterally, and adds emphatically those who believe that since they were born to a 'household' (whether Jewish, Roman, or Christian) they will be automatically redeemed despite how they live. Paul says absolutely not! As you say: the Mosaic Law (“good works” under the Law), rituals like sacrifices and cleansing (Levitical law and Pharisaical/any traditions), and circumcision/baptism (signs of the covenant); none of these merit justification/salvation. As you say, “they thought they were saved... just by doing some things,” which denies redemption via “doing” circumcision/baptism (since this is an anti-baptist video, but would also include Romans).
3a)As you point out for Eph. 2 later: Compendium of the Catechism of the [Roman] Church (c2005): Q426, merit is defined as what God owes man for man's good deeds with the union of Jesus Christ; merit is first by the grace of God then man's free will. Q427, we can merit (justly be owed) grace for ourselves and others needed for sanctification and eternal life as no one can merit the initial grace for conversion and justification. (Also Trent ch16)
3b)Straightforward, we can force God through “good works” to owe us grace (which would, by definition, no longer be grace) for sanctification and eternal life, but not justification. Initial justification, according to Rome, is through the grace of God alone (Protestant). As I also pointed out in the other video, Rome, according to Trent, holds that salvation is by 'doing the good works of' baptism alone. For Rome, there are 2 justifications. For Protestants, 1 salvation, not an initial and a “later salvation via good works like baptism.”
3c)This shows there is a change in terms between justification by faith alone in Christ, and sanctification by faith in Christ, through the Holy Spirit where man works (good works). It's an equivocation fallacy, changing the definitions, from one part of the argument to the other. All actions are under the Law of God (Rom. 3:19-20), so “good works” are still measured by God under the Law. All work is under the Law. So Paul means under the Law and James means under the Law. “Good works” is a differentiation added to James since James is doing as 1 John talks about: distinguishing between sayers and doers of the Law.
Since there are 2 definitions of justification according to Rome, and 1 according to the Bible, maybe we can agree on what Rome wishes to attest to, and what you are trying to say which biblical theologians would agree with: that man, although redeemed/justified by faith alone in the perfect life, death, and resurrection of Christ Jesus, is required to follow after the Law (“do good works”) as slaves to Christ or they are deceiving themselves (Rom 6:15-23, Luke 6:46, Matt 7:21, Jam 1:22, Prov 30:12, Titus 1:16, Jer 2:23).
So sanctification is penultimate (not paramount) for entering into the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus says, 'whoever drinks of me will have eternal life,' (Jn 4:14), 'believes in me will have eternal life,' (Jn 6: 47, 11:26), 'keeps my word will have eternal life/never die,' (Jn 8:51, 14:23; Matt 25:46), and 'All the Father have given me I will never drive from me nor I ever lose even one of them,” (Jn 6:37-39, 10:28, 17:2&6&9). Can Jesus lie? No. So all who are His, all the Father has given Him who are justified (that initial justification in Roman terms), can never be lost, will have eternal life, will be raised in the last days. But you are right, one who is justified will always do the “good” work of the Father, will always keep God's word as an outpouring of their faith (Biblical/Protestant claim).
Word studies on “hope,” which in biblical categories refers to a guarantee instead of modern 'wishing,' show that our hope (guarantee) is in Christ's resurrection, and hope (guarantee) in eternal life (Titus 1:2). Reference verses on the guarantee for the justified in Christ: Matt 6:20; 1 Cor 9:2; 2 Cor 3:2, 4:17; Col 3:4; Titus 2:13; 1 Pet 5:1&10; 1 Thes 2:12, 5:9; Heb 9:15; Rom 8:29-30. I like the OT such as Isaiah 6:1-8, God, being unchanging, shows that man is justified by God alone, something we can know with certainty, and then in gratitude, man volunteers to do the work of God (good works). Beautiful picture for this question.
Per your assertion: belief [that is] alone, no. Correct! Faith alone that produces "good works," yes. Can we know with complete certainty? Yes.
Wow once I finished reading all that I may prove to my baptist mother the Catholic faith
If it is not through faith, then how come the thief on the cross next to Christ was saved? “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). The thief wasn't baptized, didn't have chance to do good works, nor do the sacraments. Good works with out faith doesn't save you. Good works are product of true faith. Good works are the fruit faith can bare. Therefore in the purest essence, it is faith in the Lord.
I wanna put it like this. The church was never made to save you. It was made to teach people the words/will/faith of god. Many Baptists like myself are taught faith with obedience but do not split it like many Catholics do. The 10 commandments are taught through our faith. Many Catholics have to do rituals and “good works” when “good works” should be done with faith. I believe the Bible is the truth but since with time and we do not have an “original” copy many things might have been lost to translation. My mother said it to me best
“The reason why we believe in Jesus is that he is one with god. He died for our sins so for that he is our true and only savior.”
do not mistake Traditions that many do as they are nothing but traditions, the Catholic popes try to understand what Good works is, either by traditions/holy rituals/sacraments. Just as many others try to understand what it means. That is one thing I really don’t understand about Catholicism, the word of the Bible is True, the church should not be on the same level as the Bible that many Catholics deem it as.
Yes, the Word of God is True. But 1 Timothy 3:15 tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. It doesn't say this of Scripture. And Tradition DOES NOT EQUAL tradition. Capital "T" Tradition is oral teaching handed down from the Apostles, just as New Testament Scripture is written Tradition handed down. And don't downplay the Sacraments as small "t" traditions. The Eucharist, The Blessed Sacrament, IS the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Himself. It is NOT just a symbol. It is Him!
Ephesians 2:8-9
English Standard Version
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 ((not a result of works,)) so that no one may boast So are you saying that this only the Baptist believe salvation come through faith?
This is only one verse taken out of context all while ignoring verses like Ml. 16:16 and 1 Pet. 3:21 etc. Ephesians too is talking about initial justification. When we 1st come to Christ. It's saying there's nothing we can do to earn that grace or to work our way to heaven, and the Catholic Church has taught this for 2000 years. But it does not talk about what happens after justification. That's when we need to be baptized and live out our faith and follow the commandments and live for Christ and love.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Who is taken scripture out of context? You left a few things out. 1 Peter 3: 20 because[e] they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. So allow me to ask you what is your position, just so I am clear?
I wonder what was left out oh yes sola skip-tura in action Ephesians 2:8-10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them
Even before Luther added the word alone, in some of Roman Catholic later versions the word sola was inserted into the text of scripture, as early as the 13th century in an italian edition of scripture the Roman church had used the word alone and even in the later german edition that word was there that had nothing to do with Luther. But the concept alone is found in the teaching of scripture.
Yes, and James 2:24 where it says we are not saved by faith alone. :-)
Any exceptions to James 2:24? Can anyone be saved by faith alone?
@@jimbob3719 A Catholic can be SAVED by Faith Alone. But if it has NO Works then it has NO Fruits.
They also leave out Peter’s admonition to Repent and be Baptized, when quoting Acts 2.
Ephesians 2:8-9 It is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves,it is the gift of God not by works,so that no one can boast.
Thank you for the comment. In Ephesians 2:8-9, faith alone is _not_ being taught, and good works are _not_ being condemned. You will notice that Paul makes a distinction between "works" in Ephesians 2:8-9 and "good works" in verse 10. Clearly, works and good works are two different things. Nowhere are good works condemned or are said to be not needed. So you are misusing this passage. There are two different types of works. Paul talks about that are not good works. 1. Works done by our own power that don't mean anything or do anything. 2. Jewish Works of the law. These are the Old Testament rituals, cleansing, and things like circumcision. This is the majority of what Paul condemns when he uses the word works.
Eph. 2:8-9 is talking about works done by our own power. We can't save ourselves. It's all the work and grace of God.
And you will note that he condemns those "works," which are different than the good works which he mentions and we are called to walk in, in verse 10.
The entire New Testament says we need to live out our faith, follow the commandments, be obedient to Christ, bear good fruit, and stay faithful until to the end or we won't be saved (Jn. 14:15, 21-24; Jn. 15:5-7, 10, 14; Mt. 19:15-23, James 2:24; Rom. 17-22; 1 Cor. 6:9-10; Gal. 5:17-22; Jn. 3:5; Heb. 10:26-29; Rev. 2:4-7, 10, 19-26, Mt. 25:31-46).
Faith without works is dead. There’s your answer in the simplest and quickest form
How's that possible when all the thief on the cross did was believe in Jesus name? That's it...no baptism, no works.
@@oliverqueen9075 because of the circumstance he was in. He was literally on his execution. He couldn’t just go on and live a fruitful life. He was dying right then and there with Jesus. Same reason a priest has the ability to perform what’s known as general absolution. If a plane is crashing down from the sky, he can skip most steps and have everyone’s sins forgiven before the crash to get them right with Christ.
@@nicholasmargagliano1833 but if that's true for some people why can't it be true for everybody? It seems like salvation but with extra steps. The reason that I don't understand it even though you tell me and I get what you're telling me is because God is supposed to be the all merciful God so why would he make you jump through several different hoops to get to him? And then not only that but then you have to keep continually jumping through hoops just to stay with him, imagine a really devout Catholic who is probably the best Catholic you've ever known who isn't a priest is driving to mass one morning after he stabbed his toe and said a curse word and so he asked God for forgiveness and he's on his way to Mass to take the sacrament and as he's driving he looks to the sidewalk and notices a woman's skirt fly up and so he has a very lustful thought and all of a sudden he's t-boned and dies in a crash. Do you really think God who is all loving and all merciful is going to send that man to hell because he had a bad thought right before he died?
@@oliverqueen9075 just as Jesus stopped answering Pilate, i shall stop answering you.
I’m absolutely fatigued from answering these ridiculous claims. I do it all the time with people, even my own Protestant father. You can go ahead and believe that heresy, that wicked blanket you cling to for a false sense of security. It will cost you your soul. I’m sorry to say that 🤷🏻♂️
Bryan you said in order to be saved you have to keep the commandments. Does that include keeping the greatest commandment to be saved, because I fail to do that? Does the Catholic church address this?
You sound so genuine, but then like all catholics you switch from Jesus saves to only in the catholic church. A church that has so many man made traditions that were not taught buy Jesus or his disciples. Keep preaching Jesus for Jesus sake and you will not go wrong.
He is genuine. Jesus does save, but Jesus also started the Catholic Church which is his body and his bride. You can't have the head if you are not part of the body. And Luther separated himself from that body 500 years ago, and Protestants have been separated from the True Body of Christ ever since. So it's nothing against you, it's just a loving calling to the fullness of Truth and ecclesiology.
Actually the orthodox claim to be the one true church, and their practices and beliefs are more in line with the early church fathers than Roman catholics.
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Can you tell me were you a baptist before ? ( i have a follow up question )
No. Cradle Catholic.: )
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It sounded to me your problem with the bible started when someone asked you sre you truly saved, thats why i ask, i wrote you a new comment, you can check in the old testament what God aproves
@@CatholicTruthOfficialalso, so was i, I moved to baptist church becuse đy catholic church didnt explain me a lot, the spirite led me there, i am eith a missionary, here where i live baptist is unpopular. I could continue as catholic, but God led me here
We definitely do not agree on everything except for really the main point faith and obedience is Paramount
According to the Scriptures, the Christians who were born again of water and the Holy Spirit thru baptism (John3:5 Titus3:5-8 Romans2:4-7 2Cor.7:10) must do penance and good works to have eternal life (but not the Jewish works of the law e.g. circumcision). The Christians who are in the state of grace (Titus2:11-14) must do good works because they are justified by faith through works and faith without works is dead (James 2:24-26). Additionally, Christians must keep the commandments of God as they follow the Lord Jesus Christ (see Matthew 19:16-30). Remember that the rich young man asked Jesus about how to possess eternal life? Jesus' answer was not just about accepting Him as Lord and Savior because it was unbiblically true for the reason that calling the Lord was not enough but to do the will of the heavenly Father was really matters the most (Luke 6:46 Matthew7:21). Most of all, faith must works through (Gala.5:6) love (not the Jewish works of the law e.g. circumcision) because the Christian faith (1Cor.13:2) is nothing without love. Therefore, we must live with faith accompanied with love (1Cor.16:13-14) through the 2 greatest commandment of God (Matthew22:37-40). For it is by grace you have been saved through faith and good works but not of works [of the law of Moses e.g. circumcision] (Ephesians 2:8-9-10-11-19-20) because you are the fellow citizens with saints in the House of God (1Tim.3:15) which is the Church of the living God, the Pillar and foundation of the truth. The Catholic Church is the Universal Assembly of Christians who shall be saved through faith and good works (2Tim.3:15-17). Amen!!! Gloria in Excelsis Deo!!! Hallelujah!!!
Sammy, what about the Protestant churches that go against the Bible and marry Gays, how do you defend that teaching? The Pope condemns that teaching because it's unbiblical!
I went to Catholic Church once with my ex girlfriend at Christmas eve. I had to kiss a 'baby statue' on its feet. I never went back again.... But I do believe anyone who believe in Jesus Christ and follow his teachings will be saved.
I'm Baptist but I also study Catholic prayers and I understand where both Catholic and Baptist stand on the subject of saying by " faith alone". If you understood what he meant by "faith alone". You would see that you two believe in the same thing it's just explained differently. Baptists use that word faith to explain lots of worshipping stuff that they do. And you ofcourse see the word faith as what they are actually implying which is that by faith alone you are saved by Jesus. (Baptists do a ritual where God calls them to an altar of prayer). To be honest I feel both denominations are great. I love church. Jesus has really helped me
This is not entirely truthful about baptists, I don’t go to an alter and we don’t see worshipping as faith
You should have listened to that Pastor he was right. You are saved by grace through faith alone. The apostle Paul and Romans 3 says that we are justified by grace. James, in James 2 the justification is talking about in Man's eyes and it's about showing our faith by our works to others. James is about going on to perfection speaking of our state, Romans is our standing in Jesus Christ in God's eyes.
Actually the pastor couldn't answer us or our verses. Show us where in the Bible it says we are saved by grace through faith _alone._ The Bible contradicts you.
James 2:24 "And so you see that we are _not_ justified by faith alone.
That's the only time the two words faith and alone are used together and it says we are not saved by faith alone.
Show us from the Bible where it says it's justification in man's eyes. It doesn't say that anywhere. In fact it uses the story of Abraham and his justification, and he was alone. There was no one around when he was justified before God. Also every time James talks about being saved in his letter, it's in a Salvation sense, not in a temporal sense of men. So you don't have any evidence to back it up.
Also how could it be faith alone when the Bible says you need to be baptized as well? Mk. 16:16, Acts 2:38.
Nowhere in the parables of Christ does He teach 'eternal security." 😢 NOWHERE!😢 The Parable of the Talents is a great example of how we must involve our own initiative to multiply the grace God has given us. Bible scholars say that this is the proper understanding of the parable. It is not about developing one's skills. Additionally, I'm sure that all those evidence-ignorant, lie-loving, 1/6/21 troublemakers who tried to overthrow our government believed in 'eternal security.' Where else would they get the nerve to pray and to thank God for 'victory' at the dais of the Senate?
Personally I believe, that if you truly gave your life to Jesus, that would reflect in the works that you do. If I say I believe in Jesus, and don’t strive to live more like him, then I didn’t truly give my life to him.
You're praising a man made statue, your explanation is nonsense
This conversation has nothing to do with statues, so you're really confused. And nobody praises a statue. What you're trying to do is avoid the facts about being wrong.
Peter says in 2 Peter 3; some of Paul's writings are hard to understand which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction. Baptist roots begin with Martin Luther who said; 'Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly.' Seriously, how is that even possible?
@@sammygomes7381 The Baptist faith was actually started by John Smythe around 1600 or so, because he didn't like the Church of England (This is after Martin Luther). Don't you find it odd, the "Baptist" church doesn't always think "baptism" is necessary for salvation? But there are so many different baptist churches, who really knows for sure?
@@sammygomes7381 Kind Henry wanted to divorce his wife and the Catholic Church wouldn't let him. So King Henry created his own church (the church of England) and made himself "head" of that church. That is historical fact friend.
@@sammygomes7381 The Church continues to exist despite what you say. Anyone believing "men" can do everything perfectly all the time is a fool.
James 2:17-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God.
Question: since St. Paul calls baptism the new circumcision, does baptism save? You say circumcision is a work of the law, would that mean baptism is a work of the law? My intuition says "it does, but not on its own, it's part of the process," given 1 Peter 3:21. I want to make sure I articulate this to Protestants correctly.
No, it is not a work of the law. It is a command of Christ. And the Bible says it saves. Faith, repentance, and baptism go together as part of the Salvation process. Mark 16:16. 1 Peter 3:21. John 3:5.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thanks, I really appreciate your time. I converted to Catholicism as an adult thanks to Peter Kreeft and am still learning the ins and outs.
No problem. Peter Kreeft recommended me to the Catholic college I attended way back ion the day. :)
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It's amazing how someone so brilliant and prolific gets so personally involved. :-D I got into contact with him because his e-mail was in the back of a book, and I was an edgy atheist and thought I could stump Dr. Kreeft. I walked out of that e-mail chain a Catholic. Years later, I discovered an entire bookshelf of his in a bookstore in Lincoln, Nebraska and contacted him back to update him that my wife and I converted, had kids, and then were embarrassed to find out he was kind of a big deal in modern theology/philosophy.
The whole idea of sola fide is so ludicrous... Did Jesus not say He had come not to abolish the Law (Ten Commandments) but to perfect it (Sermon on the Mount, Golden Rule, etc.)?
Be PERFECT as your Heavenly Father is perfect...
How can anyone hope to become perfect (saintly) without 'working' on it - with the help of the Holy Spirit of course?
BEST video ever on the subject!
BTW, the Church CONDEMNED Pelagianism back in... when was it, the 4th century?!?
didnt he say to follow the comments to be saved
I really suffer with the idea of asking God for anything. Because if the devil can give you gifts too, how do I know where any gifts are coming from? How do I know the difference between prayers answered by God and those given by Satan?
I agonize over this daily. It makes me freeze and I end up not asking or praying for anything.
This is a lie from the devil attacking you and preventing you from having a relationship with God. It's a total lie. God and the devil do not give the same gifts. Not remotely. God gives peace and the Spirit, the devil cannot. One works for God's glory the other for self. Maybe talk with a priest or especially a counselor. If you have any follow-up questions let us know.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thank you! I am starting the RCIA class in September and starting Bible study next week. ❤️
So I guess the entire reformation was in error then?
98% of it! Martin Luther started with good intentions, He rightly wanted to reform some of the corruption in the church. But when you run into problems, instead of changing anything, he just got angry and kind of went down a cliff. He then split Christianity into what's now thousands, and thousands of denominations will have been bickering with each other and contradicting each other for 500 years. Jesus wanted one church, he said, one faith, when hope, onr baptism, one doctor in. not this ungodly chaos and contradiction. Other rCatholic Reformers ran into the same problems Luther did, but they kept praying and fasting and ended up reforming the church.
What about the thief on the cross who didn’t have time to do good works? Did he not go to heaven because he didn’t have good works?
Thanks for the comment. The thief on the cross is an exception to the rule because Jesus had not died or risen from the dead yet. Therefore, he is still under the Old Testament law The Christian church with the ordinace of baptism had not started yet because the church hadny started yet. Thus, he is not held to the New Testament Commandments or standards. Plus, the Catholic Church teaches that if you have a deathbed conversion, you can still be saved. Again, it's an exception, but not the rule.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial that still does not make sense. If the thief was living under the OT law, he still couldn't have been right with God, as he had obviously broke the OT commandments. I believe baptism does not save you, however, I agree with that baptism had not started yet and therefore he did not need it (in your view). Also you said the Catholic Church teaches that if you have a deathbed conversion, you can still be saved. I believe that salvation alone brings us to heaven, so I would agree someone who accepts Christ on their deathbed goes to heaven. However, So much of this video was based on doing good works and not the initial justification. You specifically said this initial justification does not save us and cannot bring us to heaven. Now suddenly there is an exception to this rule (which happens to be very convenient to your view). If we truly need good works, people who are saved on their deathbed (like the thief on the cross) would all go to hell.
2:15 James Chapter 2 verse 26, yes bro we believe the faith only can save you but to live your faith is to do works! But nice one bro love your videos and it gives me so much knowledge, but I think theres really nothing wrong with the baptist church or the missionary baptist church, it just is interactive and more non traditional but I don't really look down on Catholics because I believe that when Jesus said he will build his Church on this rock he meant the Church of Christ (Christianity) in which we are all united in Christ, I don't think he meant the Roman Catholic Church or the Orthodox Catholic church or any Protestant Church..
Both are wrong. Catholic: 16 Whoever -believes and- is baptized will be saved, Baptist: 16 Whoever believes -and is baptized- will be saved, Truth: 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved,
That's exactly what the Catholic church teaches. He who believes and is baptized will be saved. Why are you misrepresenting Catholicism?
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It's my understanding that the RCC baptizes babies. Babies cannot be believers.
What are the works of the law (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16)?
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In his letters, the apostle Paul warned the believers in the churches in Rome and Galatia not to place their hope for salvation in the works of the law. To the Roman Christians, he said, “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his [God’s] sight” (Romans 3:20). To the Galatian believers: “We know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ” (Galatians 2:16; cf. 3:5). To justify is to declare righteous.
The “works of the law” are the actions performed to fulfill the Mosaic Law found in the first five books of the Old Testament. Keeping the Sabbath, being circumcised (the issue before the Galatian churches), eating “clean” foods, and other ceremonies are powerless to justify us in the sight of God. In addition, following the morality of the law (not murdering, not committing adultery, not stealing) is insufficient to make us right in God’s eyes. No act on the part of sinful creatures can result in God’s declaring them to be righteous in His sight.
Why can’t the works of the law save us? First, because the works of the law can never be done completely. The standard is perfection, and that means “good enough” won’t pass muster. Paul explains to the Galatians: “All who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law’” (Galatians 3:10, emphasis added). James further explains that anyone who offends in just one point is guilty of breaking the whole of the law (James 2:10). There are over six hundred individual commandments in the Mosaic Law, and breaking just one of them one time renders a person guilty. No one but Jesus ever kept the law perfectly.
Second, the law was never intended to justify anyone; it was given to show us our sinfulness and to reveal the perfect holiness of the Lawgiver (Romans 3:20). Without the law, we would not know what sin is (Romans 7:7). The law is holy because God is holy. Just as a straightedge reveals the crookedness of a line, so the law of God exposes our lack of holiness. No one measures up to God’s standard (Romans 3:10). The law cannot justify; it can only condemn. No one can stand before a holy God on the basis of his own efforts, even if those efforts include a hearty attempt at keeping the works of the law.
If the works of the law justify no one, and serve only to reveal our own sinfulness and our desperate state, what are we to do? The Bible offers the only solution to the problem of sin: “But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe” (Romans 3:21-22). This is why “the just shall live by faith” (Romans 1:17, NKJV).
We can only be declared righteous “by faith apart from works of the law” (Romans 3:28), and that faith must rest in the only Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ: “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). To continue to attempt to earn a place in heaven through the works of the law is to ignore the sacrifice of Christ: “If righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” (Galatians 2:21).
The 5 Alone's are fore reformed Catholic's. Separatists which later were called Baptists never had anything to do with the RCC therefore were never reformed protestants.
There is no such thing as a reformed Catholic. Only Catholic and Protestant of which the "reformed" Protestants, Baptists, and the 10s of thousands of others belong to.
Love your videos…. Hoping you’ll do some more Ray Comfort rebuttals soon
We have four so far. :-)
Just look at the world if the Catholic church is doing what Jesus taught ?
The Catholic Church has been around for 2000 years. How long has your tiny little church been around? 20? The church has the doctrine of Jesus Christ and therefore the fullness of truth. The church has had UPS and Downs in history as has average church and organization, but Jesus guides it through the ups and the downs nonetheless. What the Catholic Church teaches officially versus how some people act or 2 different things.
@CatholicTruthOfficial The Catholic church said I had to pay for school for God to Love me ? 3 towns away ....sure Jesus taught that ...
@CatholicTruthOfficial is the Catholic church still support gay marriage ? SHOW me where The scripture teaches that ? Today ?
I seriously doubt The school said that though you may have understood it that way when you were a kid. No one would say that, it doesn't even make sense.
The Catholic Church has never supported gay marriage in 2000 years, and we still don't today. That's our official teaching, and it always will be because it cant change.
Where in Scripture we are saved by faith PLUS WORKS OUTSIDE OF LAW?
We don't believe in faith plus works, we believe in a working, living, faith. If your faith doesn't have good works, then it's not a saving faith (James 2:19-24).
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Hello! So, if we are JUSTIFIED (declared perfectly righteous) before GOD (not man), it is by a saving faith that Will going forth have works, But That Saving Faith Had A BEGINNING, and it was at that BEGINNING that resulted in justification before God....FULL STOP ?? So, to have a right standing with God, to be righteous before God, AS RIGHTEOUS AS HE IS, PERFECTLY - it is Not faith + cooperation, faith + cooperating with Christ's help to obtain More and More and More righteousness, a little here and a little there? And my apologies for capital letters, I'm not wanting you to misunderstand what I'm saying. Hope to hear from you soon!
@@soulosxpiotov7280 Read ROMANS
6:34 you mention Eph 2:10 but interpret it as we are to walk in good works which is not what the verse actually says. We were created to do the works of God. Titus 3:5 tells us he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit. So not Faith plus works, it is by faith in Christ . You have also mentioned Luther and how he added the word alone to the bible . Ok so Luther added the word alone ( without authorization from anyone ) and his rendering of the bible does not exist today but is quoted for argumentative reasoning? Luther contrary to the roman Catholic church is not the founder of any church , is not an apostle , and is not to be followed by anyone. You go on to the favorite works not by faith alone passage in James 2: which Jesus answers in John 6:28 as James is addressing the Jews ,James 1:1.
So what do we really have ?
We repent of our sins , get baptized , and strive to live for Christ by faith in God's written word. We do the works of God that He created us for , not for salvation which is a gift but because of salvation given to us never to be taken away. Salvation is a gift that God does not take away from us and as 1 Cor 3:10-15 points out some believers will enter heaven totally devoid of any good works .
There seems to be a disconnect between Faith and Works when the roman Catholic is taught about what" believers in Christ by faith only and not works and not roman Catholics" believe and what the roman Catholic is told to believe about the non roman Catholic believer.
I have been to a lot of denominations and not one of those denominations has ever said believe in God by faith and do nothing, not one.
Not one of those denominations has ever said that to be saved , given the gift of salvation and go live in the world again , not one.
Not one of those denominations ever point to Luther as the leader of the church , they point to Christ as the head of the church not a man with a pointy gat sitting in a far away land .
Bryan I like your zeal but I wish you would stick to scripture and proper interpretation and not what the roman Catholic church spin on interpretation gives you.
Eph 2:1-9 Faith in Christ's finished work on the cross.
Eph 2:10 God created us to do His works.
There is no conflict with Titus 3:5
Titus 3:5 tells us he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, ( works that James 2" points out ) but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit.
He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit.
So we have life in Christ and there are no verses in the entire bible that tell us that God removes His gift of salvation , takes away His Holy Spirit from the believer ,and discards them because they did not work.. We do the works that God created us for because our salvation is assured .
No denomination teaches the believer to do nothing.
You don't believe any part of the Bible instead you are contradicting with what the scripture says.
Believe it or not, the Bible says, you can know for sure if you are saved.
1 John 5:13 Says, you can know if you are saved. There you go.
What a self-righteousness man!
The Bible says there is none righteousness no, not one...
Man's righteousness are filthy rags before God.
You need God's righteousness imputed on you not your self filthy righteousness.
We believe every part of the Bible. Glad we could clear up your confusion. ;)
1 Jn 5:13 isn't talking about eternal security. The Greek word for 'know' is used elsewhere in Scripture and it doesn't mean absolutely but a general knowledge.
We know this too because the Bible is clear that we can lose our salvation.
Rom. 11:21-22- Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness,[a] if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise, you also will be CUT OFF.
Heb. 12:26-27 - For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
*2 Peter 2:20-22 - For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”
Sounds like your not open minded at all
Why? What part of the conversation and our discussion made you think that.
Galatians? The entire theme of the New Testament? The problem with what you are doing is you are also reading into as well as making presumptions about things that you do not know, the problem when neither people have been there in history is both sides have to read and both sides may read something different, why are you right? Because you're not.
Galatians does not prove your point nor disprove hours. Sadly, protestants read their own theology into that book and into the rest of the New Testament. They repeat the same things over and over without understanding any context, historical, biblical or otherwise.
We are right because Jesus started the Catholic Church and not the tens of thousands of protestant contradicting denominations. We are right because you can go back and read the earliest Christians, and you will see that it matches up with what Catholics teach today, not Protestants. You will see that nobody taught what protestants teach until 1400 years after Jesus. That's almost as bad as Mormonism.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial You have catholicized information, I think you should try to find the truth… Like when you were in the Baptist church I know all the points that you're going to make or can make, study goes both ways, the problem is you have corrupted information.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial LOL you have an interesting version of history… Jesus started the Catholic Church? You can prove that indefinitely? LOLI know the answer to that that's called rhetoric. The Catholic Church would have you believe many things that are not true, that's the shiftiness of their business.
I also think it might help you if you look into the history of the interpretation of the text that You claim Martin Luther added too.
You might realize your Catholic history isn't so accurate.
Another awesome video. Thank you.
How's that possible when all the thief on the cross did was believe in Jesus name? That's it...no baptism, no works.
@@oliverqueen9075 the thief was still under the old Law. It must also be considered that if the thief was not in the predicament that he was in would he not get baptized? We would call this the “baptism by desire.” St. Augustine also pointed out that he had some knowledge of Christ. He reasoned that he might have be baptized then fell away then had a death bed conversion on the cross. Finally, it must also be remembered that Our Lord bound us to the Sacraments but He is not bound by them.
@@LambsServant so, after Jesus saves us we have to keep saving ourself by doing works and stuff? Or repenting every time we sin? But Jesus can't go back and die on the cross again and again for us. I don't get it.
@@oliverqueen9075 He died once for all. Now we do lose our relationship with Him if we fall into mortal sin. This is restored if we repent and seek His forgiveness through the Sacrament of Reconciliation that He established.
@@LambsServant what if you repent for something and on your way to the mass and you happen to turn your head and notice a woman bending over and you have a lustful thought and then you get t-boned and dying an accident, do you go to hell because you sinned right before you die?
James 2: 24
"See how a person is justified by works *and not by faith alone."*
How's that possible when all the thief on the cross did was believe in Jesus name? That's it...no baptism, no works.
@@oliverqueen9075 thief on the cross believed in Jesus and believe is a verb, so it is deed, he also defended Jesus, so it is good deed too
Luke 23;41
"And indeed, we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal."
and baptism... he could have been baptized earlier, or as he couldn't be baptised so only his conversion and good deeds counted as righteousness for him, also that time still was old covenant, the new covenant started after resurection, in the day of Pentecost
@@Tom_Xtremee_ but if that's true for some people why can't it be true for everybody? It seems like salvation but with extra steps. The reason that I don't understand it even though you tell me and I get what you're telling me is because God is supposed to be the all merciful God so why would he make you jump through several different hoops to get to him? And then not only that but then you have to keep continually jumping through hoops just to stay with him, imagine a really devout Catholic who is probably the best Catholic you've ever known who isn't a priest is driving to mass one morning after he stabbed his toe and said a curse word and so he asked God for forgiveness and he's on his way to Mass to take the sacrament and as he's driving he looks to the sidewalk and notices a woman's skirt fly up and so he has a very lustful thought and all of a sudden he's t-boned and dies in a crash. Do you really think God who is all loving and all merciful is going to send that man to hell because he had a bad thought right before he died?
@@oliverqueen9075 people will be judged for their whole lives, God will take into account all confessions, all penances, all deeds of mercy and all sacraments, a person who regularly confessed, repented, took sacramants, will not go to hell, even if he died suddenly and had sins not confessed
@@Tom_Xtremee_ when in mass they do the...eucharist? That little wafer turns into the literal flesh of Jesus and is wholly pure and is God right?
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Thanks for always watching Angel! God bless you!
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Thank you and thank you! Praise God.
Well Mr,Mercier, I think that when you come across all these’s different groups who claim that by faith alone you are saved and not by works.I think that you should point out to them about what our Lord and God Jesus Christ said over and over in The Gospel,and that is he said I’ve came in the Of my Father to do his Will,and he said also for which of these’s works do you stone me for to the Jews.So it seems clearer than daylight that if one is to believe in Jesus Christ and in his Father and the Holy Spirit there is obviously works to be understood and done in order to be found worthy to be saved and this involves numerous things in the spiritual life of the One and Only True Church that Jesus Christ our Lord And God started upon his Holy Apostles And Their Successors until the end of TIME!!!
the question then is: how much works do you need to enter heaven? is one apple on your tree enough? what about the thief on the cross? did he do a 'work'? was not the faith in jesus the one work that he needed to be saved?
@Guess Work please listen to r.c.sproul on the rich young ruler on youtube. You might not become protestant but how can somebody who loves Jesus not like the words of him or mcarthur on this very important passage?
this is one of the most important passages of the gospels, responsible for thousands of years of personal fates and misunderstandings including the rise of whole islam
Baptist is not protestant. Martin Luther has nothing to do with Baptist.
Yes Baptists are Protestants. As are Lutherans, Presbyterians, Anglicans, Methodists, etc.
In Hebrews 13:5 god said he will never leave you and forsake you so if he does unsaved you even if you are doing it purposely then god is breaking his promise,He is a liar and I don't worship a god who lies
How do you justify faith is by doing the works. I can be all in with faith then turn around and not do the work does that justify the faith, No! It is a symbiotic relationship and only then our salvation can be justified. Of course our salvation is dependent upon Jesus mercy. I’ll take my Catholic faith till my last breath knowing Jesus gave the keys to St Peter our first pope. What about their boy Calvin or Luther do they have the key?
Another good video, your experience is exactly like that when talking to my baptist brother who believes he no longer needs to repent for anymore sin because he is "saved" and will be raptured up later this year. Thank you.
Keep trying. Evangelizing in love and truth. And of course, pray!!
@@kevincrandall2751 Totally agree, the minister at our "former" episcopal church said; "I see sexual preference as part of God's creation". That church doesn't recognize homosexuality as sin anymore, so no need for repentance and it is celebrated. Thanks why I am in RCIA now. Thanks.
@@kevincrandall2751 BOTH Catholics and PROTESTants have SINNERS and HYPOCRITES. Because were CREATED in SIN because of Adam.
Galatians 2:16? know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[a] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
Yes, works of the law... not good works. Big difference. (Mt. 25:41-46)
If you think you can lose it, you've never had it in the first place 😊
Except that scripture doesn't actually say that. That's a man-made interpretation, and a desperate safety net for the fact that scripture says you can lose your salvation. Rom. 11:21-22.