Do Disruptive Protests Work? Extinction Rebellion & Just Stop Oil Debate | Good Morning Britain
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- Do Disruptive Protests Work?
Debating the issue is Extinction Rebellion who have abandoned causing physical destruction and ‘Just Stop Oil’ who continue to adopt more destructive tactics, as they disrupted the World Snooker championship this week.
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No. Just makes everyone hate them and their cause.
I hate them but I love eating food.
I detest them.. especially the little arsehole in the tie ..
Not the cause but the execution and method
@@GhostSamuraiimost people are obviously going to connect the cause they have with the method they used, and will be much less likely to support that cause in the future
Anyone else LOVING these debates?
Love the fumes
Me :-)
that lad needs a slap from the wake up call loool
Literally just searched up JSO protest debate lol
It's very hard to sympathise with people who come across as nothing more than passive aggressive and delusional. Unless you agree with them, nothing else matters.
Can’t most people say that about their opponents 🧐
@@jamafrican657 no
because its like smashing your head against a wall trying to convince the general public that civilization is trully in dire straights.
These people are trying to help by raising awareness, but they are constantly shot down and belittled by the mainstream media, which again is just another tactic from the establishment to keep the status quo and keep their profits soaring far beyond what any human would reasonably need in not one lifetime but hundreds of lifetimes.
The fact that billionaires exist whilst we have people freezing to death in their homes and struggling to feed their kids is absolutley criminal, but we are told by the media that these are the kind of people we shold look up to and aspire to be like. It's just wrong, and this is why these people come off so passive agressive is because they are trying to keep their cool when the press is trying to poke them to get a rise.
It's all going to be ok. Middle class white people are here to save the world!😂😂
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
The General public will turn on these people physically soon
I do hope so I want a front row seat remember the tube train in London when the blokes got a good kicking DO IT TO THEM AGAIN BECAUSE WOKE POLICE OFFICERS WONT DO ANYTHING SO ITS UP TO US NORMAL PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THESE FOOLS!!
Doubt it.
@@rickirocks90210 And it happened, 3 months after you made your comment.
Ah yes, let's harrass people. Maybe they'll join us!
Will Gail Bradbrook be attending the big one? Will she be driving her diesel car there?
They always get caught out.
Bring Piers Morgan back..These two host are soft..
Would have been nice if a presenter bothered to challenge them in the slightest. Anyone? No?
Three blondes were walking through the forest when they came upon a set of tracks. The first blonde said "those are deer tracks." The second blonde said "No, those are elk tracks." The third blonde said "You're both wrong, those are moose tracks."
The Blondes were still arguing when the train hit them.
It was not the paint people found scary, it was a stranger popping out of the blue in the centre of a crowded stadium unleashing an unknown substance in a threatening way. In history there have been appalling attacks involving showing up out of nowhere; releasing dangerous, unknown substances.
These protests are faked, funded by the government who order the police to protect them to anger people so they can then use this to justify their ban on public protesting.
Don't forget bombings and shootings
Dont know where you live but where we collect data those disruptive protests actually have opposite effect. The more those demand stop use fuel the more people want to use more fuel. So we curious if those protests are actually ads of fuel companies.
The protests are designed to anger people so they will accept the ban on public protests the government will introduce. The protests themselves are fake, government funded to enable this ban to pass.
Exactly
I love how none of these bozos can answer a straight question.
Q: "Have you ever seen a parrot?"
A: "Pandas are an extremely endangered species and it's because..."
Yeesh
Wearing oil based products and clothing won’t help
Their religious cult embraces hypocrisy.
That James Skeet is the criminal not the government. All this hysterical hyperbole doesn't help. What it does is irritate and anger.
It used to be that these types of people would just stand on street corners with signs hanging from their necks that said, 'The end is nigh,' and eventually the men in white coats would come and take them away.
Very true. Unfortunately, now they have the internet. A lot of grifters too taking advantage of the vulnerable people.
white coats needed for these fruties
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
I think part of the problem is a failure of imagination. What you want is attention to the cause; it isnt disrupion for disruptions sake. But these tactics are either established activist memes, or are just seen as childish spectacles.
I don't know what the answer is because I havent sat and thought about it long enough, but you need something creative and novel that is going to emotionally provoke in the right way; in a way that causes curiosity and compassion. Traffic jams and throwing paint IS NOT HELPING.
I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say "childish spectacles." I wish they would educate the public rather than infuriate them. Perhaps fundraise for their cause and start an ad campaign explaining what the issues are, but that perhaps takes too much work than antics. I hear about the pranks but I don't remember what was its intended purpose. I remember wasting broken eggs in the market or paint strewn on fine art over protected glass but I haven't a clue why. Theatrical protests should have a meaning aside from a tantrum.
@@barcelonachair6487 there has been education for decades, but people doesn't pay attention, our generation is screaming at the people in power to take action because by the time GenZ takes the needed power it will be way to late to try to fucking save the planet, i have tried tirelessly in my city council and neighbourhoods to urge for action from the older generations and people in power to do something, they prefer having a street widened to have more cars than trees for lowering the temperature
@@barcelonachair6487 I agree with the importance of the phrase "childish spectacles", one needs only watch the rude behavior and arrogant attitude of these spokespeople here to get it.
Yes, disruptive protests do work... if the objective is to turn people against you and your cause.
Also, if there's an extinction then the problem goes away.
Extinction Bringitonian!
That woman going on about how the powder was childrens paint and implying that it’s not dangerous. Maybe it’s not, but if I was somewhere and an unknown powder was released, my rage/fear wouldn’t be manufactured, it’d be bloody real, and I’m a 32 year old male! I wonder if she’d feel different if she had kids, was at an event and an unknown substance was released, if she’d still feel any fear was ‘manufactured’ or if she’d be genuinely terrified
no thing should have been thrown by this idiots why are some excusing what they did beats me
exactly - it's not scary for them because they know what the substance is, but crazy people spraying unknowing substances in a public place is going to be scary to a lot of people
I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Just like threatening someone with a gun which turns out to be an imitation
...their tactics only make regular people hate them more..
Presumably she's never heard of bio weapons like ricin and anthrax being spread through powders, because it's flabbergasting that she can say that when there have been so many stories in recent years of powder being maliciously sent to people.
Did Skeet take advice from his legal team after his clash with Morgan?
As far as I'm concerned, the whole segment was just a way to allow 2 extremists to shout from a larger pulpit. Presenters didn't question hard enough, or didn't care enough about the other side of their arguments. Terrible representatives of that point. Didn't like Piers but he'd at least have pushed them and tried to make them see their own idiocy.
100% agree
Earth warming rate oncreased from 0,18 C a decade with 1,5 C expected in 2050 to 0,27 C a decade with 1,5 scheduled for 2027. Can you imagine the consequences?
I'd love to meet him in the pub ! Hahaha
I’m sick of these middle class hypocrites
IF MY HOUSE WAS ON FIRE IT WOULD BURN TO THE GROUND BECAUSE THE FIRE BRIGADE WOULDNT GET THROUGH YOUR FREAKS SUPERGLUED TO THE ROAD !!!
The problem is that these guys are making me care less about the planet.
There's always a dodgy haircut involved.
Middle class lad and lass who doesn’t have to worry about paying their bills telling the flotsam and jetsam how to live their lives! 😡
With no one else on to speak sense and counter their bull🤬!
I laughed when the JSO guy claimed others had cotton wool wrapped around their heads.
Literally he does not answer any of the questions posed to him and instead just regurgitates his talking points - it's like he's a robot and not a functional human being.
She's right, a lot of people don't agree with the wholesale disruption and for good reason. It doesn't help anyone at all, there is a difference between being seen and being heard.
I get what the Just Stop Oil dude is saying, but it's not about emotionally connecting with the cause, I'd say most people these days are quite accepting that climate change is one of the biggest challenges facing our society, but frankly most of us are not privileged enough to be able to step out of their daily responsibilities. Most have other people depending on them, bills etc. Just dropping everything to go and protest, is not an option for the large majority of people. So causing disruption for these people is doing nothing for the cause. Seeing a protester in the road on the way to work isn't going to make them stop what they're doing and join, I just don't understand the logic. There are less disruptive things you could do for more publicity.
Lastly, Just Stop Oil need to send someone who can interview better. James had a lot to say, but kept interrupting and wasn't really answering questions directed at him, so he didn't come across very well. In addition a lot of what he said was for shock value, making sure he used dramatic sound bitable phrases in the hopes he will scare some people into supporting the group.
Laura did a much better job, she was level headed and answered her questions directly whilst redirecting the viewers attention to relevant information. In contrast James was argumentative and emotional. I'm sure he's a valuable member of Just Stop Oil, but his idealism I fear makes him poorly suited to PR in this instance.
CANADIANS WOULD RUN THEM DOWN IN THEIR BIG GAS GUZZLING CARS
Christ these peoples attitudes are scary
She’s got hair dye🤷♂️
Anything to avoid the REAL issue, eh? Avoidance & denial on your part, sadly
@@charlottedowson9460 the looney left that a handful of people are preaching their crap.
There is an old saying you can’t put nothing we’re there is nothing and these two people have got nothing up there
Are you serious?!! They are educated, articulate & passionate about the biggest issue of our time & you can't even spell "where"! Seriously?
@@charlottedowson9460 its a non issue wake up and grow up
@@charlottedowson9460 😂😂😂😂😂
@@charlottedowson9460Educated in what exactly? I hope it's environmental engineering and also hope they've spent their working lives doing things that ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT rather than just pissing everyone off.
I do like they way they quote "all the experts in the world". What they really mean is all the experts that hold their skewed view of reality.
There are very few "experts" that are on the side of climate denial, and most of those are funded by the fossil fuel industry.
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
@@Truth_to_Powers What??????
@@patricklee6206 When examining the statement in relation to climate change, it can be interpreted as a critique of the collective response to the issue. The masses, representing the general population, are suggested to turn away from evidence that does not align with their preconceived notions or personal preferences. In the context of climate change, this could refer to the tendency of some individuals or groups to deny or downplay the scientific evidence indicating the existence and severity of climate change.
The mention of the masses deifying error and being seduced by illusions could be seen as a reflection of the influence of misinformation or propaganda campaigns that seek to create doubt or confusion around climate change. Such campaigns can be powerful in shaping public opinion and preventing meaningful action from being taken to address the issue.
The statement also suggests that those who supply illusions or false narratives about climate change can easily become the masters or controllers of the masses. This could allude to industries or interest groups that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and resist efforts to mitigate climate change. They may promote alternative narratives or create doubt about the scientific consensus, allowing them to maintain their influence and profit at the expense of effective action.
Furthermore, the statement implies that those who attempt to challenge or dismantle the illusions surrounding climate change become victims of resistance or opposition. Individuals or organizations advocating for climate action or raising awareness about the urgency of addressing the issue often face pushback from those who are unwilling to accept or confront the reality of climate change.
@@Truth_to_Powers Well, well, you really have it bad don't you?
The fact that the earth is going through one of its periodic climate changes is irrefutable. However the fact that it is going to wipe out the human race is quite another matter.
Not all scientists subscribe to the armageddon scenario as a result of the earths climate changing.
Over the past 60 years we have had many predictions by the great and good heralding the demise of civilisation.
For example in 1989 the UN a senior environmental official opined that, GLOBAL WARMING WILL WIPE NATIONS OFF OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT ADDRESSED BY 2000.
This would be caused by rising sea levels. Also that he added that shifting climate patterns could bring back 1930s dust bowl conditions to the Canadian and US wheatlands.
Instead global farm production actually rose and more than 1 billion people also rose out of extreme poverty due to economic growth. Yet here we are over 30 years later still being subjected to the same overblown hysterical theories.
That man was by the way, was Noel Brown director of the New York office of the U.N. environment programme. This same official also claimed that as a conservative scientific estimate the earth's temperature would rise between 1 and 7°in the next 30 years.
Yet in actual fact between 1989 and 2019 according to NASA it rose by 0.5°Celsius.
Another example of climate change extolled by a professor Kenneth Watt and endorsed by another scientific luminary British Science writer Nigel Calder that the earth was heading for another ice age and that the earth would be 11° colder by 2000.
That prediction was made in 1975.
Back to global warming. In 2006 Al Gore whilst promoting his film "The Inconvenient Truth" said that the earth only had 10 years left before the world would reach a point of no return. Here we are in 2023 some 17 years later being fed the same propaganda with the date for this tipping point being kicked further down the road.
These are just a few of the overblown predictions of armageddon down the years. The environmentalists are of the opinion that they have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements whilst playing down any doubts they may have. One such proponent of this strategy was Stephen Schneider a professor of biology who said in 1989, " each of us has to decide what is the right balance is between being effective and being honest".
What is closer to the truth about apocalyptic global warming is it's a means of gaining more government control and fear about the environment is one of the tools that is being used at the moment.
Communism and Socialism have lost respectability, so it's being repackaged as Environmentalism.
It's a bit like a watermelon green on the outside and red on the inside.
In conclusion it is self evident that the planet is undergoing climate change, but it has ever been thus.
In the 1500s in the UK the climate was like it is in the Mediterranean at present. In fact HenryVIII's body exploded in the heat whilst it was being transported up the Thames to Greenwich Palace. Fast forward 200 years The Thames was frozen during winter and people used to ice skate on it. Fast forward another 200 or so years and the UK is warmer again.
All he does is say the same talking points instead of giving direct answers
There's no rational argument possible as this climate crapola is a cult, and just like any religious cult, they just mindlessly chant the same slogans and dogma over and over until they're brainwashed fully indoctrinated zombies for the lost cause.
Netherlands should be under water in 2012 ,where is Netherlands now ? 🤔🤔
Oil is fantastic a fantastic product
These kind of protesters motivate me. I promise that every time I see a Just Stop Oil protest, or there is mainstream media coverage, I will do one environmentally unfriendly thing. Today, I’ve decided to but a motorbike with a much bigger engine. Thanks, Just Stop Oil… this is going to be fun!
I have sold both of mine.
@@baileyking9 you can’t buy “stocks in oil” 😂
Nice one Justin, bet you look so cool on your motorbike 😂😂😂😂 🤡
This 100%. Everytime I see them make some poor guy late for his job interview during a cost of living crisis it makes me want to never recycle anything again.
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
No it doesn't come from every expert in the entire world. These people are so blinkered it's untrue.
More blinkered than the climate change deniers?!!! Seriously?!!!
@@charlottedowson9460 and what's a climate change denier. Please explain what group of people deny the climate changes because I don't know one person who Denys the climate changes.
@@charlottedowson9460 you really need to be a bit more specific when you loosely bandy around the term denier.
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
James Skeet, you wore that same shirt on Piers uncensoured.....😂😂😂
Looks like he slept in it too
Ask Farrell how much money she was given for her business from donations to extinction rebellion!
This guy would be a great politician (dancing around the question 🕺 😂)
That guy is vile, he should be arrested.
Arresting someone for having different beliefs is a pretty facist thing to do.
What is the solution to your demand?
We can also demand that you stop!
Did you obey?
If you don't agree with the government then just move out to a country that is to your liking, where the government don't have oil reserve.
HOW DO YOU STAY WARM? DOES YOUR METHOD OF STAYING WARM CAN BE APPLIED TO OTHERS?
These actions could un seat Dictators!!!......I don't think so little boy, they would shoot you and make you disappear.
I was gonna go to the Extinction Rebellion demonstration, but couldn't get there because the road was blocked by a Just Stop Oil protest. ;)
Lol 😂😂 👏👏
lol😂
It seems like on these shows the main argument against the protests is circular reasoning, essentially saying "We shouldn't like it because people don't like it". I hear a lot of arguments like that "the public don't like them" or "they are having the opposite effect" instead of giving your own personal reasons why you are against them. The media is extremely good at making you annoyed on someone else's behalf. They put the focus on the tactics instead of why they are using those tactics. Or even as abstract as whether the tactics are effective. To go even more abstract you could discuss whether the conversation over the effectiveness of their tactics is effective. These mind games and distractions are a perfectly understandable response when faced with global catastrophe, as it is a very difficult thing to fully process and allow into your comfort zone. As for the media, most of the billionaire-owned media conglomerates have vested interests in industries like the oil industry. I don't know about ITV but Sky news certainly does, along with every other news company parented by Comcast Corp or News Corp. It isn't a massive conspiracy but there will be systems which favour the hiring of certain types of news presenters and the reporting of certain types of stories. The companies have to do this if they are to compete with one another. It's easy to forget that all of this content is the result of huge companies fighting over our attention. They no doubt have an enormous impact on public opinion. So when you hear "public opinion" being brought up in one of these debates, doesn't that seem a bit circular?
Throw away your device and pick up trash if you're serious otherwise you're just a walking joke. If y'all got time to protest then atleast clean up after yourselves but y'all just leave your crap in the streets.
I'm in full agreement with everything the climate activists say and want, but why do they always feel the need to lecture and talk down to journalists, people on the street, friends in the pub etc? The Extinction Rebellion woman here starts right in with a big rehearsed speech and it's an instant turn-off.
You may get awareness but you’re also on the path of provoking the common man to desperation until he’ll say “I’d rather die than support you and your cause”.
A protest that inconveniences zero people is a pretty rubbish protest. Nobody protests a cause that 100% of people agree with.
Bollocks.. do you know how much food companies waste a day!!! A DAY! IVE SEEN SKIPS FULL OF FRESH FOOD ENOUGH TO FEED DONCASTER
This is like a scene taken from the movie "Don't look up", literally.
Yes it is so sad that we are unable to face up to what is actually happening to our world!
They don't complain about the destruction of the enviroment to get the stuff for batteries? Vast new open cast mines are excavated by Diesel powered plant machinery. Let's start with the batteries and how to charge them.
if the disruptive protestors presented solutions, we would listen to them. They don't have solutions. Let them do their homework and promote real solutions, which are being worked on by real engineers.
Rich kids with nothing better to do except spoil things for the normal working people in THIS country.
"The Government is criminal" - Fight to change the government, riding a revolution/bicycle
I was an active member of The Animal Liberation Front in 90s we saved countless animals ect and never ruined the lives of everyday people going about their lives . These groups now suck
We'll send you some bananas james . It fits with your mentality 😂😂😂
theyre backing him and hyping him waaayyy too much. shut that neek down
James needs to give up his home , clothes and cosmetics , wear an animal skin and become a hunter gatherer. Problem solved
the sky is falling in, who will save the children aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Good morning 🌄🌞🌄 everyone
The future she fears is opportunity knocking for evolution.
What did the protesters at St Paul achieve, exactly, what protesters ?
Could we disrupt the disruptive tactics by arresting those bullies?
what a good idea......yeah - but i think the Police can't do anything under some stupid law - or just bring the water cannons out as they do in Europe
@@simonwolfe529 The protests are fake, they're being run and funded by the government precisely in order to anger people so they will then accept a ban on all public protesting.
Well at least this is better than those horrible interventions Richard Madeley did
The two issues are what the protests are about and where and how the protests are done; when asked about the latter, the protesters talk about the former. It's irritating that whenever Kate and Adil ask about the manner of the protests, and whether or not they are designed to anger people or gain support, their guests talk about the reason for them. The point is made early by the guests what the situation they believe we are in is (climate emergency, government, etc), so it is said and doesn't have to be said again and again. The interview moves on to the manner of the protests, events targeted and how effective or ineffective the guests believe those protests are in gaining public support, but the guests keep repeating why they are doing them. Probably most people agree with them to some degree about the situation and the reasons for protesting, but there is an issue of whether or not they are wise about which events it is relevant to their cause to disrupt and whether the nature of their protests is likely to turn people against them or to gain support. When the protesters are challenged about that, they revert to repeating their motivations.
Why are these people constantly being allowed onto tv, pushing their views of doom, but we never seem to get an alternative to their agenda, allowed onto debate them?
Wow, they're actually allowing comments
We all have one choice to make..... should we make the most out of what we have now, or do we leave it for our children, and their children to sort out. Because most of us know climate chance is real.... and the planet is taking its last, biological breath
theses people more concerned about other countries then uk so deluded
They can’t answer the question so they aren’t committed
All, of them are weak, Machines, are stronger.
i'll be glad when that pair of layabouts are extinct.
Those two need help, very urgently.
GMB is once more acting as their messager to spread their stinking ideas... We should not be worried about what world we are leaving to our children, but what kind of children we are leaving to our world 😏👌🏻
loved how they flew their weather girl to artic to show us the ice melting and why we normal people should not fly and she was crying her eyes out yet she all for space travel that put thousands of tons of fuel into the air costs billions and they fly Andy Peters all over to show us where we can spend our money we could win even though they could do it all from studio on videos they also fly the winners to Spain to let us be so called envious crazy sick off all this rubbish
And they're deleting comments again.
They are both attention seeking drama queens.
The best discussion I’ve seen so far. Usually the people that represent them are angry and shouty! I changed my mind at 7:46 as they started shouting and seemed more unhinged than ready for a real discussion.
I know the wildfires and extreme heat in London last summer were completely off topic, they just need to find a way to connect what that snooker table looked like after the power was added and the way the grass looked in London parks last August ... it's about joining the dots really
So NONE of them can adress the topic huh?
id protest if i had a hair cut like that too
Does she know lock down haircuts are over now.
Your tactics aren’t working
The same mantra over and over again.
The guys spin around in his chair a lot.
I don’t need anyone to tell me what to do. I do the best I can for the environment. Vandalism however you auger coat it it not a nice thing to do x
That's the problem, the fossil fuel industry lobbied heavily to make "climate change" a matter of personal responsibility. The small changes people can make in their daily lives have little to no impact. It's about getting the government to stand up to the fossil fuel industry giants that donate large sums of money to their campaigns.
Care in the community at its best.
He's such a little beta boy hahaha
I get them after hearing what they have to say, majorty of people only think of the Now and the past and have the view of if it dosemt effect them immediately they dont care. If this has been scientifiy proven why arent we doing more to help?
Exactly! I think it is because those who are causing the problems, the oil corporations, and other large contaminating industries are more interested in people still buying their products and because they are so wealthy they have enormous influence and are part of the reason why climate break down issues are only occasionally reported in the news.
It works until they go to the wrong place and get filled in. Fingers crossed they come my way
I think these 2 are on phentinal
Oh London is going. Meh no great loss
Hahàh so what is the solution
They own cars. Lol.
U people talk to much
They is no climate issue
They is unequivocally climate collapse occurring right now.
@@nicetrymate813 show we where prove it
@Lee Davies hes correct though on all levels
@@bonysminiatures3123 The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims
This is obviously what happens when people grow up thinking bad behaviour is the only way to be noticed. I am not stupid, we are all aware, how do these groups assume that we need to put at risk for people to notice? How arrogant are they? If you hold up a major motorway, a lot of vehicles will leave their vehicles turned on and get annoyed and rev, how can that help fuel emissions?
To be honest, if the future they say is coming then I can’t blame them for being terrified being the girls hide would be my coat and the guy would be my hat.
Heroes
Sympathetic to the crisis but these guys make me want to crank up my V8 Dodge and do donuts in a parking lot.
So by distrupting a snooker match going to make a difference to climate change lol find something useful go do some litter picking
Paid actors/troublemakers
The masses have never thirst after the truth. they turned aside from evidence that is not their taste, referring to deify error, error seduces them whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master whomever attempts to destroy their illusion is always their victims