So happy to find this channel! I would love to hear your thoughts on comparing the streaming surround mixes to the mixes available on physical media. I tried to articulate my two cents worth elsewhere, but your collection is far more extensive than mine, so you would have more albums to compare.
I compare streaming to blu-ray, now and then! More and more, albums will be streaming ONLY though, so comparisons will probably be infrequent. Bottom line, with blu-ray, you're going to get better definition. To my ears, this affects the low-end articulation most. Streaming is pleasant. BD is better.
I'm doing the Apple Music trial. I listened to Elton's "Rocket Man," which was listed in a "spatial audio" playlist. It sounded pretty good. When I listened to "Honky Cat" from the same album (that track was not on the playlist), it didn't sound the same as my SACD copy. On the SACD, the horns come in loud & clear in the rear speakers-- a striking effect. Via Apple Music, the rears sounded kind of quietly ambient. I wonder if only certain tracks have got the full conversion so far?
Some streaming surround titles are basically uploads of previous mixes, from SACD, BD-A, DVD-A, etc. But some have been freshly mixed recently, for better or worse...
"Rocket Man" is the only surround track currently available on Apple Music from Elton's older albums, I believe (hopefully there's more to come later). "Honky Cat" is only in stereo on Apple Music, so that's why you didn't hear discrete sound from the rears on that one. If you heard anything in the rears, your receiver or other equipment might be processing it as Dolby Pro Logic, or some other type of simulated surround.
What is your cooling system on top of your amp/AVR? The Apple Music app on my LG tv is not Atmos. But, the tv does play Atmos from video streaming services.
@@lifeinsurround I’ve been using a laptop fan on top of my Denon x7200wa, connected via USB. I’ve been looking into them on eBay have a thermostat or are preprogrammed to turn on at a certain temperature. Mine is just a single fan, it cost about 15 bucks. The nicer ones are $50+
My fan is an AC Infinity AIRCOM T8. It indeed runs when a programmed temp is reached. Keeps my Denon nice and cool. I'm not using any of the Denon's amps either. That helps keep the temp down too. Hopefully it will last my lifetime!
@@lifeinsurround I saw a video from a year ago with Gene from Audioholics and a couple of guys from Denon/Sound United, they were talking about the preouts. I guess in Amp Assignment/Preamps, you can turn off the amps or something like that when you aren’t using them. They also were talking about Eco mode, to turn it on instead of having it on Auto. It’s easy to find it in their Videos list.
Thanks Mike, a very informative video as usual! Some comments / requests for further input from others: * On the requirement for an AVR with HDMI input: I have a Yamaha HTR-5250 receiver (around 20 years old) with no HDMI input. It does have 5.1 RCA-jack analog inputs (that I use with my old Oppo BDP-95 for playing surround discs), and digital optical inputs. I recently bought an LG OLED TV that has an optical output. I have that going into the Yamaha receiver, with the TV’s “Digital Sound Output” setting set to “Pass Through”. I also recently bought an Apple TV 4K device, which is connected via HDMI to the TV. This setup, with the TV as a pass-through connector from the Apple TV HDMI feed to the receiver’s optical input, is working fine for playing streaming surround music on my 5.1 speakers, and although I can hear a difference in quality from my surround discs (using the Oppo’s high-quality DAC), I think the compressed Dolby from Apple Music still sounds good, sometimes really good (mostly depending on the varying quality of the mix/mastering of streaming tracks). I don’t have high-end speakers anyway, just a 30-year-old Bose 3-way speaker system in front, Bose satellite surrounds, a Klipsch RC-52II center speaker, and a low-end Sony amplified subwoofer. So, even those with some (relatively) ancient / lower-end equipment may be able to get streaming surround audio to work. I also love being able to stream a virtually unlimited collection of lossless stereo albums from Apple Music over my home system, a big step up from my previous method of listening to streaming music: 320kbps tracks from Spotify on my phone through headphones, or over my computer speakers. * On Tidal requiring Atmos capability through the whole chain: I have the Tidal app on the LG TV, and when I play Atmos-labelled songs from the Tidal app (again, going through the TV’s optical output) to my old non-Atmos receiver, it does produce 5.1 surround sound (however, tracks labelled as 360 Reality Audio just play in stereo). The TV is Atmos-capable, but I don’t think it’s doing the decoding because as mentioned, I have TV optical audio set to "pass through". So at least from my experience, you can make this work with an old AVR if you have the right TV (or maybe some other device that can pass an HDMI input through to an optical output), although the LG Tidal app has a bug that makes each song stop playing exactly 30 seconds before the end of the song, which renders it useless. Glad I only paid $2 for a 90-day trial of the Tidal HiFi service! * One uncertainty I have is whether the optical connection I’m using to the receiver means that the signal from the Apple TV has its bitrate reduced along the way… I don’t think so, since it’s a pass-through setup, and my understanding is that optical audio can carry Dolby Digital and DTS Surround signals, just not lossless surround such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master. Any thoughts on this from anyone?
Regarding your last point, it's my understanding that streaming Atmos (delivered over DD+) is a low-bandwidth stream anyway. I doubt your equipment is imposing further reduction.
@@lifeinsurround Thanks for the response Mike. One other follow-up to my original comments, in case it might be of use to someone else: I downloaded the Tidal app on the Apple TV 4K, so I can now play Tidal surround content without each track stopping when there's 30 seconds remaining, which is still happening with the LG TV's Tidal app. But I haven't found much content on Tidal that isn't also on Apple Music, plus there's the annoying issue with reduced volume for surround tracks on Tidal, so I'm going to stick with Apple, after my free trial ends.
Hi, thanks so much for making the content. I wish I would have found it a month ago. Since this video is now a year and a half old, are you still using the apple tv 4K and does it work consistently for Atmos music? I am currently using a new amazon fire tv with amazon music unlimited but it only works intermittently for Atmos tracts which is very frustrating. FYI, I mostly listen to country music and Ashley Mcbrydes new album "The Devil I Know" has really impressive Atmos.
Great video. So I would definitely need an atmos receiver to listen in surround with tidal, but not with apple music if I only care about surround and not whether it is true atmos? Since I have active speakers and want to do surround mixing too I am going to need analog in and outs for all channels, and that would be expensive for a receiver that supports Atmos too
If you have active speakers you can use a pre-processor. I have the ToneWinner AT-300 (14 channels...price is $1300) going into the analog inputs of my 16 channel audio interface (two Roland Octa-Captures slaved together). This way I can monitor my Atmos mixes (Nuendo) from the pc using usb into the audio interface or other atmos content (blurays or streaming) through the analog inputs of the audio interface.
QUICK QUESTION: I have Amazon Music. I have a Sony 7.2 receiver with a few years old Sony 65” Bravia TV as well as an Amazon FireStick 4k (2022). When I try streaming anything on Amazon Music in ATMOS on either the FireStick or through my Sony TV, both only stream in 2-channel. Of course both work fine and in full surround with videos (and the system sounds Great) but NOT with Amazon Music. Has Amazon SHUT DOWN the possibility of having ANY form of multi-channel music (like you mentioned Tidal doing) other than ATMOS only? I HATE to throw money at the problem only to have it still not work. I’m not “married” to Amazon, I don’t mind going with Apple and an Apple TV if needed but I thought I’d ask first. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED🙏I’m frustrated and don’t know who to ask or where to go. Thanks in advance!! Great Vid by the way!
No clue, though I notice this less on Apple Music than I did on Tidal. I wish they'd figure out a solution and increase the bandwidth (quality) of streaming Atmos.
@@lifeinsurround i wish they would i did find a few tracks that even though they were still db's lower then the master they still had great mids with base, but i hated those songs lol.
Great video as always, Mike. Question: As a collector of surround music on physical media, are the Atmos mixes on Apple Music typically sourced from a previously released surround mix, or instead newly mixed (or, god forbid, automagically-upmixed) from 2.0 sources? Would my XTC, Yes, Pink Floyd, etc. albums on BR/DVD-A/SACD be identical (with the addition of Atmos channels)?
The surround mixes on Apple Music seem to be hit or miss. There aren’t many albums that they have in Spatial Audio that I also have in a surround mix on physical media. None of the XTC albums are available in Spatial Audio on the service. Same with Alan Parsons Project, and a few others. And then there are the bands that have one or two records available in Spatial Audio, but not all. Sergeant Pepper’s and Let it Be ARE available in spatial audio, but Abbey Road and The White Album are not. Only REM’s Automatic for the People is available in Spatial Audio, none of the other surround mixes are. So it is a little difficult to compare existing physical releases to what is available through Apple Music. I can say that listening to A Momentary Lapse of Reason through Apple Music is VERY different from the mix you get on the physical release. The disc-based version is much better, while the streaming version will do in a pinch. I think what Apple Music is really geared for is listening on the go through your Apple-branded headphones. Under those circumstances, the Atmos mixes on the service sound great. Likewise, if the service has an album in Spatial Audio that otherwise isn’t available in surround, that sounds great, too. But, for my money physical discs are the way to go, if available. YMMV, of course.
@@ashleywalker5776 After a three-week audition of Apple Music (Apple TV 4K>5.1.2 system), my experience has mirrored your own. I suppose I'm a multichannel purist of sorts who will always prefer physical releases. I'm not a fan of the scattershot approach to multichannel on Apple Music, but then again, I have a couple dozen surround albums on my shelf that are trainwrecks. So, no format is perfect. I have enjoyed discovering some gems in Apple's spatial audio library. Some albums do sound amazing. And for that reason, I'll subscribe when my trial ends. The difference with Apple Music's approach, like you said, is that they are serving two audiences--primarily Apple pod earbud listeners, and then the exclusive audience of Atmos-equipped home theater systems. Engineers don't always seem to know how best to optimize the discrete channel bits, which can degrade the home theater experience. But it's a new generation of multichannel/Atmos engineers that I trust will improve over time. I just need to shift my thinking away from the service as a source of 1:1 archival digital surround mixes from my collection (I too noticed the disparity in the Pink Floyd/Momentary Lapse... mix, as well as the Fleetwood Mac Rumours mix, which pales in comparison to the DVD-A). A few 'wish list' improvements I hope to see: 1) add a tag that lists the source--original Atmos mix, 5.1, stereo upmix/pentomix, quad direct transfer, etc. I just discovered a few quad mixes (Isley Brothers, jazz releases) labeled as 'Dolby Audio' that seem to be direct transfers. More of those releases, please. 2) identify Atmos/Dolby Audio on the web version of Apple Music and iTunes. It's easier to browse and add albums to the library online, but the specific format is missing for some reason. Well, I could go on, but that's my experience thus far. Cheers.
I have a onkyo atmos amp the problem I am dealing with is I have no high speed internet. They set the poles back to my house 3 weeks ago and are telling me that I should have high speed in a few more weeks . I have tidal. I have only got the streaming atmos to work one time that was about 3 in the morning when not as many people are on the internet as during the day,so am I correct in thinking that when I get high speed I should be able to stream atmos from tidal or is it possible I am doing something wrong,because if I am right any of your viewers like me will not be able to enjoy streaming atmos without high speed no mater what type of equipment we own
I do Spatial Audio via my Apple TV 4k device. Spacial Audio includes some (adapted) Quad, 5.1, and Atmos releases. Sometimes long out of print Quad. Pretty cool, IMO!
Two questions: 1. How big of a selection of surround music is there to stream. 2. Does the quality come close to listening to SACD or Bluray Audio discs?
I've done some videos related to your question. The quality is lacking, in surround, to my ears (and those of many others). There are more titles than I have time for.
Finding out it’s not easy to get Atmos on Amazon. Not getting Atmos to Yamaha A-2070 from Fire Stick 4K (3rd gen) I do get 24/192khz. Sounds like Apple TV is the way
I think Apple has worked out the most bugs, in streaming Atmos, so far. I've heard that Amazon Atmos only works on their Echo Studio devices. Not sure if or when they'll expand their service.
@@lifeinsurround I just got the FireStick 4k Max. Still no Atmos music. But I now get Atmos Netflix to the receiver. Regular 4k stick and the Samsung Netflix app only send DD+
Greetings Sir. I am THRILLED to have stumbled upon your TH-cam channel!!! I am in the final process of completing my totally upgraded Dedicated 7.2.4 ATMOS Home Movie Theater and Music Listening Room. I have fairly high speed internet for this country (~ 400-900 mbps). I use Amazon today, but am open to Apple Music, Tidal or whatever to achieve HiRes Multi Channel Music Joy. I own the latest Apple 4K box. That’s my intro. The question is, Do I need to make the Significant Investment into an SACD Player and purchase SACD disks in order to achieve HiRes Multi-Channel Music, or can this be achieved through my Apple 4K box and Apple Music? What are the pros and cons in your view Sir? Thank you in advance for your time and cheers from the mountains of the Philippines, BC
Hi there, I'm THRILLED you found this channel! Last I heard, Amazon immersive audio only works with their devices, like an Echo Studio. Not recommended for your sophisticated setup. Between Tidal and Apple Music, I settled on Apple. No volume issues between Atmos and stereo being the main reason. Immersive content on the streaming services is lossy and far from exhaustive. You'll want to pick up a universal blu-ray player to give yourself the most options, long-term. A Sony X800 is a good place to start looking, on the more affordable end. An OPPO, such as a BDP-103 or BDP-95 or BDP-105 are world class. They're no longer made and becoming pricey on the 2nd-hand market.
For all those who are looking for a Dolby Atmos headphone experience: try the Smyth Realiser A16 which make your headphones sound like a preset room - no difference to speaker setup. A bit pricy, but truly amazing.
Last I heard Amazon Atmos was dedicated to their Echo Studio (or something like that). If they have expanded their service, I haven't heard. I'm not interested in listening to music through an Echo AT ALL!!!
I find it mind blowing that you can play Atmos music via Tidal on a 4k firestick or fire TV but you can't on the company's own music streaming service via the same devices 🤯, I can't be the only one scratching my head at the one 🤔
Great educational video Professor I really enjoyed it .Keep them coming for 2022.
I sure will! Thanks and happy new year.
Great video! Looking forward to more in 2022.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Really great video, Mike. Really appreciate it!
Glad it was helpful!
So happy to find this channel! I would love to hear your thoughts on comparing the streaming surround mixes to the mixes available on physical media. I tried to articulate my two cents worth elsewhere, but your collection is far more extensive than mine, so you would have more albums to compare.
I compare streaming to blu-ray, now and then! More and more, albums will be streaming ONLY though, so comparisons will probably be infrequent. Bottom line, with blu-ray, you're going to get better definition. To my ears, this affects the low-end articulation most. Streaming is pleasant. BD is better.
I'm doing the Apple Music trial. I listened to Elton's "Rocket Man," which was listed in a "spatial audio" playlist. It sounded pretty good. When I listened to "Honky Cat" from the same album (that track was not on the playlist), it didn't sound the same as my SACD copy. On the SACD, the horns come in loud & clear in the rear speakers-- a striking effect. Via Apple Music, the rears sounded kind of quietly ambient. I wonder if only certain tracks have got the full conversion so far?
Some streaming surround titles are basically uploads of previous mixes, from SACD, BD-A, DVD-A, etc. But some have been freshly mixed recently, for better or worse...
"Rocket Man" is the only surround track currently available on Apple Music from Elton's older albums, I believe (hopefully there's more to come later). "Honky Cat" is only in stereo on Apple Music, so that's why you didn't hear discrete sound from the rears on that one. If you heard anything in the rears, your receiver or other equipment might be processing it as Dolby Pro Logic, or some other type of simulated surround.
What is your cooling system on top of your amp/AVR? The Apple Music app on my LG tv is not Atmos. But, the tv does play Atmos from video streaming services.
It's a fan, I forget the model. Denon and Marantz get really hot, so it's a good idea to cool them down. Fans come in top blowing and rear blowing.
@@lifeinsurround I’ve been using a laptop fan on top of my Denon x7200wa, connected via USB. I’ve been looking into them on eBay have a thermostat or are preprogrammed to turn on at a certain temperature. Mine is just a single fan, it cost about 15 bucks. The nicer ones are $50+
My fan is an AC Infinity AIRCOM T8. It indeed runs when a programmed temp is reached. Keeps my Denon nice and cool. I'm not using any of the Denon's amps either. That helps keep the temp down too. Hopefully it will last my lifetime!
@@lifeinsurround I saw a video from a year ago with Gene from Audioholics and a couple of guys from Denon/Sound United, they were talking about the preouts. I guess in Amp Assignment/Preamps, you can turn off the amps or something like that when you aren’t using them. They also were talking about Eco mode, to turn it on instead of having it on Auto. It’s easy to find it in their Videos list.
I'll check my settings to make sure the Denon amps aren't running. Good tip.
Thanks Mike, a very informative video as usual!
Some comments / requests for further input from others:
* On the requirement for an AVR with HDMI input: I have a Yamaha HTR-5250 receiver (around 20 years old) with no HDMI input. It does have 5.1 RCA-jack analog inputs (that I use with my old Oppo BDP-95 for playing surround discs), and digital optical inputs. I recently bought an LG OLED TV that has an optical output. I have that going into the Yamaha receiver, with the TV’s “Digital Sound Output” setting set to “Pass Through”. I also recently bought an Apple TV 4K device, which is connected via HDMI to the TV. This setup, with the TV as a pass-through connector from the Apple TV HDMI feed to the receiver’s optical input, is working fine for playing streaming surround music on my 5.1 speakers, and although I can hear a difference in quality from my surround discs (using the Oppo’s high-quality DAC), I think the compressed Dolby from Apple Music still sounds good, sometimes really good (mostly depending on the varying quality of the mix/mastering of streaming tracks). I don’t have high-end speakers anyway, just a 30-year-old Bose 3-way speaker system in front, Bose satellite surrounds, a Klipsch RC-52II center speaker, and a low-end Sony amplified subwoofer. So, even those with some (relatively) ancient / lower-end equipment may be able to get streaming surround audio to work. I also love being able to stream a virtually unlimited collection of lossless stereo albums from Apple Music over my home system, a big step up from my previous method of listening to streaming music: 320kbps tracks from Spotify on my phone through headphones, or over my computer speakers.
* On Tidal requiring Atmos capability through the whole chain: I have the Tidal app on the LG TV, and when I play Atmos-labelled songs from the Tidal app (again, going through the TV’s optical output) to my old non-Atmos receiver, it does produce 5.1 surround sound (however, tracks labelled as 360 Reality Audio just play in stereo). The TV is Atmos-capable, but I don’t think it’s doing the decoding because as mentioned, I have TV optical audio set to "pass through". So at least from my experience, you can make this work with an old AVR if you have the right TV (or maybe some other device that can pass an HDMI input through to an optical output), although the LG Tidal app has a bug that makes each song stop playing exactly 30 seconds before the end of the song, which renders it useless. Glad I only paid $2 for a 90-day trial of the Tidal HiFi service!
* One uncertainty I have is whether the optical connection I’m using to the receiver means that the signal from the Apple TV has its bitrate reduced along the way… I don’t think so, since it’s a pass-through setup, and my understanding is that optical audio can carry Dolby Digital and DTS Surround signals, just not lossless surround such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master. Any thoughts on this from anyone?
Regarding your last point, it's my understanding that streaming Atmos (delivered over DD+) is a low-bandwidth stream anyway. I doubt your equipment is imposing further reduction.
@@lifeinsurround Thanks for the response Mike. One other follow-up to my original comments, in case it might be of use to someone else: I downloaded the Tidal app on the Apple TV 4K, so I can now play Tidal surround content without each track stopping when there's 30 seconds remaining, which is still happening with the LG TV's Tidal app. But I haven't found much content on Tidal that isn't also on Apple Music, plus there's the annoying issue with reduced volume for surround tracks on Tidal, so I'm going to stick with Apple, after my free trial ends.
Hi, thanks so much for making the content. I wish I would have found it a month ago. Since this video is now a year and a half old, are you still using the apple tv 4K and does it work consistently for Atmos music? I am currently using a new amazon fire tv with amazon music unlimited but it only works intermittently for Atmos tracts which is very frustrating. FYI, I mostly listen to country music and Ashley Mcbrydes new album "The Devil I Know" has really impressive Atmos.
We appreciate it, Mike ...
We all appreciate you too! Happy new year.
What good is it to get Atmos or Spatial audio on your phone?
You can't Bluetooth these audio formats via BT can you?
Via phone, you'd be listening through headphones, earbuds, airpods, etc.
Great video. So I would definitely need an atmos receiver to listen in surround with tidal, but not with apple music if I only care about surround and not whether it is true atmos? Since I have active speakers and want to do surround mixing too I am going to need analog in and outs for all channels, and that would be expensive for a receiver that supports Atmos too
That sounds right. I've had a better experience with Apple Music in other respects, anyway. IMO, it's worth a trial, at least!
If you have active speakers you can use a pre-processor. I have the ToneWinner AT-300 (14 channels...price is $1300) going into the analog inputs of my 16 channel audio interface (two Roland Octa-Captures slaved together). This way I can monitor my Atmos mixes (Nuendo) from the pc using usb into the audio interface or other atmos content (blurays or streaming) through the analog inputs of the audio interface.
Groovy Mike keeps Enoch the Rad informed on modern surround!
QUICK QUESTION: I have Amazon Music. I have a Sony 7.2 receiver with a few years old Sony 65” Bravia TV as well as an Amazon FireStick 4k (2022). When I try streaming anything on Amazon Music in ATMOS on either the FireStick or through my Sony TV, both only stream in 2-channel. Of course both work fine and in full surround with videos (and the system sounds Great) but NOT with Amazon Music.
Has Amazon SHUT DOWN the possibility of having ANY form of multi-channel music (like you mentioned Tidal doing) other than ATMOS only?
I HATE to throw money at the problem only to have it still not work. I’m not “married” to Amazon, I don’t mind going with Apple and an Apple TV if needed but I thought I’d ask first.
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED🙏I’m frustrated and don’t know who to ask or where to go. Thanks in advance!!
Great Vid by the way!
Why is the volume much lower with atmos (apple and tidal) compared to regular HiFi?
No clue, though I notice this less on Apple Music than I did on Tidal. I wish they'd figure out a solution and increase the bandwidth (quality) of streaming Atmos.
@@lifeinsurround i wish they would i did find a few tracks that even though they were still db's lower then the master they still had great mids with base, but i hated those songs lol.
Great video as always, Mike. Question: As a collector of surround music on physical media, are the Atmos mixes on Apple Music typically sourced from a previously released surround mix, or instead newly mixed (or, god forbid, automagically-upmixed) from 2.0 sources? Would my XTC, Yes, Pink Floyd, etc. albums on BR/DVD-A/SACD be identical (with the addition of Atmos channels)?
All of the above. Fresh mixes. Upmixes. Conversions from previous mixes. It's sorta wild wild west.
The surround mixes on Apple Music seem to be hit or miss. There aren’t many albums that they have in Spatial Audio that I also have in a surround mix on physical media. None of the XTC albums are available in Spatial Audio on the service. Same with Alan Parsons Project, and a few others. And then there are the bands that have one or two records available in Spatial Audio, but not all. Sergeant Pepper’s and Let it Be ARE available in spatial audio, but Abbey Road and The White Album are not. Only REM’s Automatic for the People is available in Spatial Audio, none of the other surround mixes are. So it is a little difficult to compare existing physical releases to what is available through Apple Music. I can say that listening to A Momentary Lapse of Reason through Apple Music is VERY different from
the mix you get on the physical release. The disc-based version is much better, while the streaming version will do in a pinch. I think what Apple Music is really geared for is listening on the go through your Apple-branded headphones. Under those circumstances, the Atmos mixes on the service sound great. Likewise, if the service has an album in Spatial Audio that otherwise isn’t available in surround, that sounds great, too. But, for my money physical discs are the way to go, if available. YMMV, of course.
@@ashleywalker5776 After a three-week audition of Apple Music (Apple TV 4K>5.1.2 system), my experience has mirrored your own. I suppose I'm a multichannel purist of sorts who will always prefer physical releases. I'm not a fan of the scattershot approach to multichannel on Apple Music, but then again, I have a couple dozen surround albums on my shelf that are trainwrecks. So, no format is perfect.
I have enjoyed discovering some gems in Apple's spatial audio library. Some albums do sound amazing. And for that reason, I'll subscribe when my trial ends. The difference with Apple Music's approach, like you said, is that they are serving two audiences--primarily Apple pod earbud listeners, and then the exclusive audience of Atmos-equipped home theater systems. Engineers don't always seem to know how best to optimize the discrete channel bits, which can degrade the home theater experience. But it's a new generation of multichannel/Atmos engineers that I trust will improve over time.
I just need to shift my thinking away from the service as a source of 1:1 archival digital surround mixes from my collection (I too noticed the disparity in the Pink Floyd/Momentary Lapse... mix, as well as the Fleetwood Mac Rumours mix, which pales in comparison to the DVD-A).
A few 'wish list' improvements I hope to see:
1) add a tag that lists the source--original Atmos mix, 5.1, stereo upmix/pentomix, quad direct transfer, etc. I just discovered a few quad mixes (Isley Brothers, jazz releases) labeled as 'Dolby Audio' that seem to be direct transfers. More of those releases, please. 2) identify Atmos/Dolby Audio on the web version of Apple Music and iTunes. It's easier to browse and add albums to the library online, but the specific format is missing for some reason.
Well, I could go on, but that's my experience thus far. Cheers.
I have a onkyo atmos amp the problem I am dealing with is I have no high speed internet. They set the poles back to my house 3 weeks ago and are telling me that I should have high speed in a few more weeks . I have tidal. I have only got the streaming atmos to work one time that was about 3 in the morning when not as many people are on the internet as during the day,so am I correct in thinking that when I get high speed I should be able to stream atmos from tidal or is it possible I am doing something wrong,because if I am right any of your viewers like me will not be able to enjoy streaming atmos without high speed no mater what type of equipment we own
Sounds like it could be a bandwidth issue. Hopefully they get you up on high speed soon!
I'd like to see how Sonos handles the Atmos protocol...
Do you have a Sonos system?
Tidal on a Nvida shield , How ?. Does the Apple 4k have a Tidal app?. which plays Dolby Atmos, all i see from apple is 360 ?
I do Spatial Audio via my Apple TV 4k device. Spacial Audio includes some (adapted) Quad, 5.1, and Atmos releases. Sometimes long out of print Quad. Pretty cool, IMO!
Two questions:
1. How big of a selection of surround music is there to stream.
2. Does the quality come close to listening to SACD or Bluray Audio discs?
I've done some videos related to your question. The quality is lacking, in surround, to my ears (and those of many others). There are more titles than I have time for.
Finding out it’s not easy to get Atmos on Amazon. Not getting Atmos to Yamaha A-2070 from Fire Stick 4K (3rd gen) I do get 24/192khz. Sounds like Apple TV is the way
I think Apple has worked out the most bugs, in streaming Atmos, so far. I've heard that Amazon Atmos only works on their Echo Studio devices. Not sure if or when they'll expand their service.
@@lifeinsurround I just got the FireStick 4k Max. Still no Atmos music. But I now get Atmos Netflix to the receiver. Regular 4k stick and the Samsung Netflix app only send DD+
Can't seem to get atmos from tidal on firestick 4k
Greetings Sir. I am THRILLED to have stumbled upon your TH-cam channel!!! I am in the final process of completing my totally upgraded Dedicated 7.2.4 ATMOS Home Movie Theater and Music Listening Room. I have fairly high speed internet for this country (~ 400-900 mbps). I use Amazon today, but am open to Apple Music, Tidal or whatever to achieve HiRes Multi Channel Music Joy. I own the latest Apple 4K box. That’s my intro. The question is, Do I need to make the Significant Investment into an SACD Player and purchase SACD disks in order to achieve HiRes Multi-Channel Music, or can this be achieved through my Apple 4K box and Apple Music? What are the pros and cons in your view Sir? Thank you in advance for your time and cheers from the mountains of the Philippines, BC
Hi there, I'm THRILLED you found this channel! Last I heard, Amazon immersive audio only works with their devices, like an Echo Studio. Not recommended for your sophisticated setup. Between Tidal and Apple Music, I settled on Apple. No volume issues between Atmos and stereo being the main reason. Immersive content on the streaming services is lossy and far from exhaustive. You'll want to pick up a universal blu-ray player to give yourself the most options, long-term. A Sony X800 is a good place to start looking, on the more affordable end. An OPPO, such as a BDP-103 or BDP-95 or BDP-105 are world class. They're no longer made and becoming pricey on the 2nd-hand market.
For all those who are looking for a Dolby Atmos headphone experience: try the Smyth Realiser A16 which make your headphones sound like a preset room - no difference to speaker setup. A bit pricy, but truly amazing.
Did Amazon Music HD finally update Atmos for streaming devices like AppleTV? AFAIK, it is still only on phones and tablets 😡
Last I heard Amazon Atmos was dedicated to their Echo Studio (or something like that). If they have expanded their service, I haven't heard. I'm not interested in listening to music through an Echo AT ALL!!!
Don’t these receivers already have capability of downloading these apps?
Not necessarily. Nor my various blu-ray players. You're often stuck with the apps loaded by the manufacturer.
I find it mind blowing that you can play Atmos music via Tidal on a 4k firestick or fire TV but you can't on the company's own music streaming service via the same devices 🤯, I can't be the only one scratching my head at the one 🤔
Very good point. I think Amazon Atmos is restricted to the Echo Studio still.
@@lifeinsurround dolby Atmos is availkable on Amazon music HD on a firestick 4k,But I was unable to get Hi res, from firestick? Limited.
Are you aware of 200 motels in 5.1
Can't say I've heard one way or the other. Have you heard anything?