Correct. In fact I drive accord 2.0t sport which will dust this. However, I do appreciate the modern looks of the new civic. I was curious so saw one at dealership. It’s more luxurious and seems well built. I’d say the new civic is almost an Acura but not quite.
I own a 10th gen hatch and absolutely love it inside and out but this update is growing on me. The interior is beautiful in this 11th generation. I have also been impressed with the 11th gen hatch, particularly the Audi-inspired fastback look from the rear. I’ll be test driving one when they are available. As far as the 1.5 not generating enough passenger compartment warmth, I had no issues last winter when temps were -20F last winter.
The styling of the previous generation Civic grew on me eventually and looked really good in the upper trims. This one blew me away and could easily pass for something European. I also like how Hondas feel really solid (doors close nicely) and they feel stable at higher speeds but they won't go overboard on the price if you aim for the mid level trims.
I have a 2019 Civic HB with the 1.5T and I live in Calgary. I believe that Honda tweaked the engine software since the 1.5 was introduced. The cabin has no problem getting warm in the winter. Overall the 1.5 has been a peach of an engine. Oh and BTW though I love my hatch I'm the first to admit that its styling is, um, kinda busy.
Great review, folks. I think self-styled automotive "enthusiasts," including myself, often underestimate the challenges of designing a vehicle like the Civic. A car that can be driven for five years or more without looking and feeling out-of-date. An economical vehicle that serves the missions of a daily driver and a long distance "tripper" equally well for a single driver, a couple, or a small family. Compared to such competing demands designing a vehicle aimed at a single mission is far less challenging. The design of the new Elantra is undeniably arresting but its over-styled creases and bulges (a common feature of Hyundai's design language) suggest it's a descendant of a spaceship in a 1930's Flash Gordon movie serial. I couldn't agree more that the new Civic's design will age far better. All in all, I think Honda has a winner in the new generation.
They also corrected the styling of the 10th generation and went from something a teenager in their puberty would come up with, like the fake vents and overly aggressive bodylines to a more refined, mature and sleeker styling.
I have an Insight. I am getting 50 MPG/45 MPG if I drive lead footed. if the mission was to have a car that gets good MPG but is not ugly like the PRIUS or the Corolla Hybrid, mission accomplished. The power is better than the competition as well. If you don't care about MPG buy the regular car or sport models, until electric vehicles are viable.
@@creatineenjoyer7345, the only thing wrong with it is - it doesn’t really sell! That’s why Honda discontinuing it…can’t beat Toyota’s proven hybrid tech (over 20yrs technology) now with Corolla Hybrid though Prius not a bad seller for them
@@ztekz There is a 2022 model. Mine is a 2021. In the US it is available. I am not sure about Canada though. This is the third generation of Insight. It was discontinued in 2014. Then in 2019, Honda released the Insight again.
I like the new look. And glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks the rear looks like a Jetta! It's not a knock against it, in fact quite the opposite; simple tasteful elegant styling.
I have a 2018 Civic Sport hatchback and my parents have a 2019 Civic sedan LX. The 2018 has been very reliable, even done with the oil dilution recall. I test drove the new Civic the other day, both 2.0LX and 1.5T Touring. It surely feels quieter than its predecessor. In person, it really looks like an A4 in profile. What a brilliant car it is.
Yet the gal over at Consumer Reports says it was noisy and made it a point of emphasis.I believe she drove the Ex or Touring. This is why I have to drive any car to see for myself.
Gre8 review! I have been with Honda for almost 20 years, it was my first car, and I always had one in my driveway. One thing I have seen around is Honda civic is the second car for most of the Audi owners. Honda seems to be getting most of the design inspiration from VW, you will see the lines, the dropping ceilings. That's why Audi lovers love Civic. Civic benchmarks again.
Hello Andrea and Zack. I really love watching your reviews; you're both so objective, and professional. Your technical experience with automobiles shines through loud and clear. Andrea, I especially love your exuberance/ excitement when you love a car. You and I have the same taste; as I always agree with your choices as well. I LOVE the all new Honda Civic. Its styling is beautiful, so sophisticated; styling you'd more likely only find on high line German cars, such as Audi; BMW. Lastly, it's a Honda; therefore reliability will never be an issue. Further, in true Honda fashion: Handling is perfect; ride quality-superb; engine power and overall performance is excellent. The quality of materials and fit and finish, in true Honda fashion, is unparalleled for a car in this class segment. A powerful turbocharged 1.5 liter engine, with 180 horsepower, producing 177 Lb ft of torque that peaks at just 1700 rpm, and remains flat all the way through 5000 rpm's, making the Civic good for a 0-60mph time of just 7.1 seconds, all the while, getting 39 mpg highway and 30 mpg, in the city. What more can one ask for, not to mention class leading rear leg room, trunk, etc. I can't say enough good about this car. I also really am in LOVE with the all new 2023 Honda Accord. I'll be buying a new car soon. I've got to weigh the pros and cons of both the Civic and Accord. The major deciding factor, is considering price, and value of each. Again, thank you for such an informative, thought provoking review. -Thanks, Tim
The new Civic doors shut like my old Bimmer and MB, heavy with a solid bam! I have never seen it in Japanese and Korean compact cars before, usually is a muffed hollow plastic feel type of sound, but this one is like the G Wagon’s.
Great review guys! Totally agree Honda brought in a very clean German design but I think it will age much better than the previous gen. With that belt line it looks quite large. Would love to see how it compares to an Accord 1 or 2 gens back.
I like the honest opinions of this channel, nice job! I would go with the non turbo 2.0L too. Honda CVTs are very good, especially going uphill, seems to be much more powerful than traditional transmissions.
I like how you guys dismissed the people saying 'quality went down' blindly. I hadn't ever heard that statement being made before that question either by the way. As owners of the last gen, I trust your opinion. Great review as always. Looks like Honda absolutely nailed it!
First Honda I drove was a 1978 Honda Civic with manual 4 speed and trunk not hatchback. Tiny car but super fun to drive. So glad my dad bought it as opposed to a Chevette.
I’m American and just bought the 2023 Honda Civic Touring last week. So excited! I’m 4’11”, so being able to reach the pedals and see over the steering wheel at the same time is a real issue. I bought the Touring bc it has power seats that go in 4 directions & I especially needed it to go UP! 🤪 I sit up higher than my previous ‘02 Civic LX and can generally see around better. The car is gorgeous and though it’s the priciest trim, I’m super happy with it. Need to get used to it though as the steering wheel and pedals feel VERY different than my old Civic. 😊
From what I've read, people have had success with; 1) a slightly thicker oil 5w-30 full-synthetic 2) also to change it early, every 4000-5000km (2500-3000 miles) 3) to allow your engine to idle for 1-2 minutes, for the piston-rings to make a good seal, before starting to drive. I think the problem was that sometimes people would start their cold car, 1.5L-Turbo Hondas, and would start driving without even allowing the car to lube up, so there would be some oil dilution by the added blow-by of the fuel mixture and would further dilute the oil. Also, would not allow the engine to fully warm up, before they would shut it off, still cold, at the grocery store, just 1 mile away from their home. So the engine never got up to temp to burn off the added fuel dilution, and the engine wear will be higher because it was used as if it was warm, while it was still cold and oil was diluted, so extra wear and tear that wouldn't happen, if it was allowed to warm up before use, and kept the oil good through the oil-change-cycle. I've heard great things about a tiny bit of Rislone Engine Oil Supplement with Zinc Treatment in every oil change, for cold-start protection for the engine bearings in our colder regions.
I think people are shocked by the design bc Honda jumped from edgy and youth oriented and went refined and sophisticated all in one model year. This civic to me looks like they looked at VW or Volvo and then added fillets to all the sharp edges in CAD. As an owner of a 16 the 22 is not a bad design, just drastically different. As always y’all did a great job with this review, keep up the good work 💪🏼
@@EdwardVarner The combined fuel economy is exactly the same surprisingly. But, the 2L does better on the highway and the 1.5L in the city by a tiny bit. These are the official numbers.
Good video. Surprised more car channels are not acknowledging that even in the top trim with power seats Honda are NOT offering lumbar support. Ridiculous decision from Honda.
I'm so glad to see that Honda has gone back to a more conservative look as standard for the Civic. I find that it lost it's identity a bit for a generation or two. Leave the sharp/angular design for the SI version. This car remains the best value on the market for a nice, all around car that is fun to drive.
My concern is the 1.5L Turbocharged issues with oil dilution and long term reliability. Thanks for addressing this but I am still hesitance. I had 3 Honda’s (2004 Civic, 2014 Accord Sport, 2019 Acura RDX A-Spec). This Civic Hatchback is what I want as my around town car, fuel efficient and DYI HomeDepot hauler.
Civic has always been a favourite. It looks more like an Accord. Not sure about CVT, but love the redesign. A popular vehicle, it does have challenges with insurance being among the highest in the country.
Thanks for another great review! The maturing of the design is really encouraging and gives me hope the next Type R can be a car I may consider. The 10th generation was over styled to appeal to the tuner market.
I like the look as well. And I am glad to hear that the CRV will receive a similar treatment. I haven’t liked the exterior styling of the CRV for a long time. I think Honda did a good job. Glad the track and wheelbase are a little larger.! Yeah the back styling looks nicer than previous generation. I like it!
That "KNOB" on the infotainment screen is SUCH an eyesore!!! Other than that, it's a pretty nice looking Civic. I may get some flack but, it reminds me of an Audi A3. The other crappy thing on this beautiful car is, the CVT. Another Great Reviews, guys..
Love the new look of this CIVIC. I owned a 1998 from brand new till 2004 DX Coupe Manual and put 160000 flawless km on it. This is the first new Civic since I've actually loved the looks of.
I heard that the more often you replace CVT fluid, the longer the CVT lasts, especially if you use a high quality full-synthetic CVT fluid. This means you would have to use a non-Honda CVT fluid.
I admit that I don't watch this channel religiously, but I have to say that there is something authentic and wholesome about an automotive vlogger who chooses a Civic EX as their own personal car. I'm not naming any names but it seems like most automotive TH-camrs choose very pretentious cars for their own personal use i.e. Porsche, Tesla, Range Rover, AMG, etc. They may review Civics but they're too important to own such an ordinary car. Obviously this isn't you and that makes your channel more credible. On a somewhat related note, Mrs. Spencer is a an adorable woman and brings a very welcome and refreshing perspective to the channel. For what it's worth, I'm anxious to see what kind of changes the next model of the CR-V brings, which I assume is still currently in development. This Civic is definitely a step in the right direction, but I do feel as if they are playing it safe with the exterior. I feel the interior of the current Civic and CR-V was dated pretty from the get-go and as such has aged somewhat poorly, so hopefully they rectify that in the next release, as I'll be looking to replace my 17 CR-V when the next generation comes out.
I purchased a sport touring in may 2022. It's now December. Over night it get down to about 30 degrees. The car still has a hard time getting warm in the cabin. That is my only complaint. Everything else is great.
Agreed. A reliable CVT is an advancement. Making it copy the OLD technology of "shifting", defeats the purpose of a CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE transmission.
@@IamDoogy Exactly 🤣 I bet most people that buy CVT don’t even care. it is probably the constant complaints from auto journalists that drove car makers to reprogram their CVT…
@@nickolastiguan And the same people who complain most likely bought manuals in the first place but unfortunately it’s clear where the market is at. I agree let a CVT do what it was designed for and work on perfecting that.
they definitely did - because CVT's are fucking amazing when you program them RIGHT - but the sales people basically force these stupid decisions because customers refuse to adjust to new technology.
This was the deal breaker for me on the 10th gen. The rear hip point was quite low in the rear so it didn't work for us, very hard for elderly people to get in and out of. They look like similar sized cars but the Impreza was noticeably easier to get in and out of for people with leg/hip mobility.
I had 3 Honda cars in my lifetime. Bought a Lexus this year instead due to the oil dilution and other issues in the current Honda cars. I wish Honda was not so slow with Hybrids. Looking forward to go back to Honda in the future.
My first car in Japan was civic Honda to this day I still Love it . Wonderful car . Japanese cars are wonderful . I lived in Japan for 25 years and bought many cars and honestly speaking Japanese cars never gave me any troubles I had car from USA it cast me a lot of money for repairs many times visit to garage , what can I say !
IMO, extending the warranty is not fixing the problem. I think it's a cop-out by Honda. The problem has existed for a few years now. One wonders if Honda actually knows how to rectify it.
I remember my 2013 Dodge Dart with a 1.4L turbo took FOREVER to warm up during winter here in Canada. I won’t go below a 2.0L for engine size again after that experience.
Keep in mind, standard features vary Canada vs. US; the US LX does not have heated seats and the US Touring doesn't have heated rear seats or heated wheel; and, many of your viewers are in the states!! Keep up the great work! (NB- no Sport trim for Canada (???), and i'm disappointed the EXL trim was dropped)...
Great review! Although not having the option of the 1.5 Turbo for either the Sport sedan or the incoming hatchback model is counter-intuitive. You need to move up the the EX or Touring models for either for the turbo (which also has better gas mileage btw) but then you lose those nice sporty 18 inch wheels as standard. Someone at Honda fell asleep at the Sport model meeting.
Great review. I just went into my local dealership and put a deposit on the lx trim. Keeping my costs low because my first kid is on the way. I have until tomorrow to decide. This helps a lot. Thank you! Long term viewer
Fantastic review of the new Honda Civic 👏 I think Honda polished this generation Civic perfectly. I also think is the best Civic in 3 generations as well. We will be seeing these everywhere here soon enough
A big thumbs up from the UK 👍Just stumbled across you guys because I like the Civic as a 07 Civic type r owner, a great all-round review I think they've done a really good job on this can't wait for the si and the Type R👏
The 1.5 litre turbo inline-4 engine is terrific! It’s of course very smooth, which is typical of Honda and it has fantastic power and torque, with a beautifully flat torque curve (max torque from 1700rpm all the way to 5500 rpm!). I’ve had a 2016 Touring since new and now have 109,000 km on it and there have been no issues. I’ve always taken it to the Honda dealership that I bought it at for regular service.
My son also has the 2017 Civic Base sedan with the 158hp motor. It is vault solid, handles well and the only negative for me is the CVT. If Honda can couple the Civic with an automatic (like Mazda 3 does), then I think they will maximize their sales.
How much more maximizing can they do though? The Civic and the Corolla each take up 25% of the total market for compacts in the US. Everybody else is fighting for scraps. Honda isn't losing sleep over customers foregoing CVT cars for trad automatics. The Mazda3 moves 3000 units a month, the Civic does 25,000 or more.
Buy the hatch with 2 liter engine and manual transmission . That should be a very reliable vehicle . No CVT and no turbo . No problem 👍 Lovely couple 💖 Thank you.
Life long Honda Fanboy here....But, I have sworn off Honda. I have owned 1991 prelude 4ws, 2001 civic, 2010 civic, 2013 accord, CBR600 and Honda lawnmower. 2001 and 2010 best cars ever. 2010 civic has 232k on it right now and it is driven everyday about 450 miles a week. I will keep it till it hits 350k. Accord is one of the worse cars I have had. Oil burner. rear calipers had to be replaced at 60k. wheel hub at 80k. With the oil dilution issues of the 1.5 liter engines, I can't buy another Honda. Hondas have terrible seats. My accord can't be driven longer than an hour without back and hip pain. tread lightly when looking at Hondas. Honda was rated 12th in reliability a couple of years ago by CR. They are back up to 5. But, that is behind Mazda, Lexus, Toyota. No more Honda for me unless they get up in top 3 on reliability. The extended warranty on the oil dilution issue is meaningless. I bet one of these cars that dilute oil will not hit 200k miles. The oil being mixed with oil will cause the engine to wear much faster.
I own a 2013 Accord Sport, love it but lots of miles (170K still runs great though) so almost pulled the trigger on a new one however was never in love with the new styling. This new larger Civic is a game changer for customers who love the 2013-2017 Accord styling. I just wish the tire size and rims on the Touring were available to purchase on the Sport trim but my Honda dealer here in the States says not available for the lower tier trims which is ridiculous. Is that the same in Canada? Great Review. Cheers!
I love your knowledge and honesty coupled with the "his and her" input. I learned a good bit with your review and know what car I want to purchase now. BTW I hope Honda has engineered a fix for the oil dilution issue and hope that problem doesn't develop in the 2 ltr normally aspirated engine since it has direct fuel injection.
It's really interesting seeing a different type of Civic which we do not see in the Japanese market however, we do have many different Honda cars exclusively designed for the Japanese market.
Heat wouldn't be the problem. Small engines heat up quicker than larger engines. I'm not sure what you've been reading to make you come to that conclusion.
I really cannot stand CVT's. I ended up getting a Corolla which my wife likes, but in manual trim. Reason being, the new engine has both port and direct injection. CVT's and direct injection only are avoid on my list. Otherwise, looks like a great car.
Good comment Fin Dango, you care about the right things on this issue. You can tell by most comments on here when people are mostly concerned with "Infotainment" that they are clueless on the important points of a vehicle
I wish they would have kept and added lane watch cameras. Instead they went with lane warning system. Always beeps when your in a multiple turning lane
Great review as always.. Have a 2020 Si with 29k on the dial and no dilution issues.. Btw all direct injection engines have some oil dilution.. Keep up the great work!😀
not true. my hyundai turbo direct injection 1.6L has never had an oil dilution issue. but hyundai does its own steel, and also airbags....no takata grenades in our steering wheels.
Actually, when I say some oil dilution with gdi engines is normal, it's an actual fact... The engine won't have any longterm issues... And please, do some research on Hyundai/Kia GDI engine issues... They have a terrible reputation. Glad that you don't have any issues though!😀
What you guys driving is the Base model? With leather seats, heated seats, heated mirrors? I bet the price is few K extra already from the 2021 Base model.
Honda got rid of the Fit in the NA market because it just wasn't selling like it's main stable. Also, the Civic stopped being an insanely affordable car a long time ago. An inflation adjusted 2001 Civic DX manual would be $22,500 today. No one buys manuals so they dropped that as an option. The DX trim is just simply gone so when you compare a LX Auto from 2001, you end up at an adjusted $28,457. So I would say that where the Touring is only $2k CAD more, the actual DEAL you are getting these days is wicked good considering that an LX today is only $24,465 CAD. As for how I feel about the new gen, I have a GenX. I found that only once I saw it in person at my local dealer, did I like it. The pictures just don't really work for it. I prefer the look of the rear of the hatch so I am very interested to see all the specs and reviews on the hatch soon. The one thing that Honda Canada CONTINUES to do that rips me is that the second to top trim only get the 2.0NA engine but in the US market, they get the 1.5T. Stupid. But on the flip, the US market doesn't get a heated steering wheel or rear heated seats (Even in the touring) but Canada does. Pretty sure America isn't only Texas, Arizona and Florida...
I have never understood what "trusted" reviews meant.....until I found you guys!
Wow, thank you so much, we appreciate your kind words.
they are lying to you
With this review , I got my Honda sedan sport 2022. I take possession next week. You are great couple.
@@sebastiengauthier7503 Fantastic, congratulations!
@@sebastiengauthier7503 how do you like it!?
My next car will be a Honda Civic Hatchback. I’ve had my civic since 2002, and I still love it. Twenty years and still great.
1999 EL here. Once/IF my car craps out I have my eyes on Civic Hatchback. FINALLY a Honda I would purchase again. Well done Honda.
Still driving my 2001 Honda Accord . Thinking about the new Civic and HRV as a replacement .
wish they bring back a real hatchback
How many miles you got on that bad boy?
@@Ghost-jy9hk close to the 200,000
Looks like the Accord now.
Correct. In fact I drive accord 2.0t sport which will dust this. However, I do appreciate the modern looks of the new civic. I was curious so saw one at dealership. It’s more luxurious and seems well built. I’d say the new civic is almost an Acura but not quite.
I know... I like my 2016 better!
@@corpuzone what kind of MPGs do you get if you drive conservatively?
Not really.
I own a 10th gen hatch and absolutely love it inside and out but this update is growing on me. The interior is beautiful in this 11th generation. I have also been impressed with the 11th gen hatch, particularly the Audi-inspired fastback look from the rear. I’ll be test driving one when they are available. As far as the 1.5 not generating enough passenger compartment warmth, I had no issues last winter when temps were -20F last winter.
You two are some of the best reviewers in Canada, Keep up the good work!!
Wow, thanks!
The styling of the previous generation Civic grew on me eventually and looked really good in the upper trims. This one blew me away and could easily pass for something European. I also like how Hondas feel really solid (doors close nicely) and they feel stable at higher speeds but they won't go overboard on the price if you aim for the mid level trims.
Not me, the entire last gen Civic are still some of the ugliest cars in recent time 😆
@@nickolastiguan - The crab claw taillights were ridiculous.
@@michaeljordan6008 The last gen civic looked so childish trying too hard to appeal to high school kids.
I have a 2019 Civic HB with the 1.5T and I live in Calgary. I believe that Honda tweaked the engine software since the 1.5 was introduced. The cabin has no problem getting warm in the winter. Overall the 1.5 has been a peach of an engine.
Oh and BTW though I love my hatch I'm the first to admit that its styling is, um, kinda busy.
Great review, folks. I think self-styled automotive "enthusiasts," including myself, often underestimate the challenges of designing a vehicle like the Civic. A car that can be driven for five years or more without looking and feeling out-of-date. An economical vehicle that serves the missions of a daily driver and a long distance "tripper" equally well for a single driver, a couple, or a small family. Compared to such competing demands designing a vehicle aimed at a single mission is far less challenging.
The design of the new Elantra is undeniably arresting but its over-styled creases and bulges (a common feature of Hyundai's design language) suggest it's a descendant of a spaceship in a 1930's Flash Gordon movie serial. I couldn't agree more that the new Civic's design will age far better.
All in all, I think Honda has a winner in the new generation.
Thank you so much!
They also corrected the styling of the 10th generation and went from something a teenager in their puberty would come up with, like the fake vents and overly aggressive bodylines to a more refined, mature and sleeker styling.
Honda needs to get rid of the Insight and make this as their hybrid.
WORD.
I have an Insight. I am getting 50 MPG/45 MPG if I drive lead footed. if the mission was to have a car that gets good MPG but is not ugly like the PRIUS or the Corolla Hybrid, mission accomplished. The power is better than the competition as well. If you don't care about MPG buy the regular car or sport models, until electric vehicles are viable.
@@Stanley-px3bt well said. I dont see anything wrong with Insight.
@@creatineenjoyer7345, the only thing wrong with it is - it doesn’t really sell! That’s why Honda discontinuing it…can’t beat Toyota’s proven hybrid tech (over 20yrs technology) now with Corolla Hybrid though Prius not a bad seller for them
@@ztekz There is a 2022 model. Mine is a 2021. In the US it is available. I am not sure about Canada though. This is the third generation of Insight. It was discontinued in 2014. Then in 2019, Honda released the Insight again.
I like the new look. And glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks the rear looks like a Jetta! It's not a knock against it, in fact quite the opposite; simple tasteful elegant styling.
The Civic has become what the Accord was 20 years ago......very impressive car.
Same size too though. The Civic used to be a compact and now looks like a midsize.
That hatch looks beautiful. Surprisingly elegant for a Honda.
We agree!
I have a 2018 Civic Sport hatchback and my parents have a 2019 Civic sedan LX. The 2018 has been very reliable, even done with the oil dilution recall. I test drove the new Civic the other day, both 2.0LX and 1.5T Touring. It surely feels quieter than its predecessor. In person, it really looks like an A4 in profile. What a brilliant car it is.
Yet the gal over at Consumer Reports says it was noisy and made it a point of emphasis.I believe she drove the Ex or Touring. This is why I have to drive any car to see for myself.
@@halc.2899 I listened to their show too. I believe they drove the same 1.5T Touring as the rest of us test drove.
Sitting in my older Honda Civic on my break watching this. I love the civics
Gre8 review! I have been with Honda for almost 20 years, it was my first car, and I always had one in my driveway. One thing I have seen around is Honda civic is the second car for most of the Audi owners. Honda seems to be getting most of the design inspiration from VW, you will see the lines, the dropping ceilings. That's why Audi lovers love Civic. Civic benchmarks again.
Audi lovers love Civic, dafuq? Must be a Canada thing.
Honda always does Magic!! Beautiful, reliable and sporty civic! This civic will rule again for next 3-5 years atleast!
I like this new design, it's simple and elegant. The mesh over the air vent will be a nightmare to clean...
the vent knob could be prone to accidental breakage
You just need a cheap detailing brush and a vacuum honestly. Maybe a little tougher to clean, but I don't think it'll be significant.
i'll take the mesh over piano black.
Use vacuum
Oh Yea!!! So much fun watching this Honda video
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Motormouth... Sure he would enjoy a wheelbarrow with Honda logo on it 🤪😉😂
@@Motormouth... Too many issues with design and drivetrain choices to enjoy such overjoyous video.
Hello Andrea and Zack. I really love watching your reviews; you're both so objective, and professional. Your technical experience with automobiles shines through loud and clear. Andrea, I especially love your exuberance/ excitement when you love a car. You and I have the same taste; as I always agree with your choices as well. I LOVE the all new Honda Civic. Its styling is beautiful, so sophisticated; styling you'd more likely only find on high line German cars, such as Audi; BMW. Lastly, it's a Honda; therefore reliability will never be an issue. Further, in true Honda fashion: Handling is perfect; ride quality-superb; engine power and overall performance is excellent. The quality of materials and fit and finish, in true Honda fashion, is unparalleled for a car in this class segment. A powerful turbocharged 1.5 liter engine, with 180 horsepower, producing 177 Lb ft of torque that peaks at just 1700 rpm, and remains flat all the way through 5000 rpm's, making the Civic good for a 0-60mph time of just 7.1 seconds, all the while, getting 39 mpg highway and 30 mpg, in the city. What more can one ask for, not to mention class leading rear leg room, trunk, etc. I can't say enough good about this car. I also really am in LOVE with the all new 2023 Honda Accord. I'll be buying a new car soon. I've got to weigh the pros and cons of both the Civic and Accord. The major deciding factor, is considering price, and value of each. Again, thank you for such an informative, thought provoking review. -Thanks, Tim
Had a Honda....loved it...bought it used 10 years old for $1500. Lasted 2.5 years....
Great car...nice ride
Thank goodness they kept the manual in the hatch...Looks MUCH improved inside and out. Cant wait to see they Type R
The new Civic doors shut like my old Bimmer and MB, heavy with a solid bam! I have never seen it in Japanese and Korean compact cars before, usually is a muffed hollow plastic feel type of sound, but this one is like the G Wagon’s.
really?? you are comparing a civic to a G wagon? what a stretch....
yup!
Great review guys! Totally agree Honda brought in a very clean German design but I think it will age much better than the previous gen. With that belt line it looks quite large. Would love to see how it compares to an Accord 1 or 2 gens back.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it.
I like the honest opinions of this channel, nice job! I would go with the non turbo 2.0L too. Honda CVTs are very good, especially going uphill, seems to be much more powerful than traditional transmissions.
Hi, it's Andrea - thank you very much, glad to hear you like our honesty and enjoyed the Civic review.
I like how you guys dismissed the people saying 'quality went down' blindly. I hadn't ever heard that statement being made before that question either by the way. As owners of the last gen, I trust your opinion. Great review as always. Looks like Honda absolutely nailed it!
First Honda I drove was a 1978 Honda Civic with manual 4 speed and trunk not hatchback. Tiny car but super fun to drive. So glad my dad bought it as opposed to a Chevette.
That is awesome!
I’m American and just bought the 2023 Honda Civic Touring last week. So excited! I’m 4’11”, so being able to reach the pedals and see over the steering wheel at the same time is a real issue. I bought the Touring bc it has power seats that go in 4 directions & I especially needed it to go UP! 🤪 I sit up higher than my previous ‘02 Civic LX and can generally see around better. The car is gorgeous and though it’s the priciest trim, I’m super happy with it. Need to get used to it though as the steering wheel and pedals feel VERY different than my old Civic. 😊
From what I've read, people have had success with;
1) a slightly thicker oil 5w-30 full-synthetic
2) also to change it early, every 4000-5000km (2500-3000 miles)
3) to allow your engine to idle for 1-2 minutes, for the piston-rings to make a good seal, before starting to drive.
I think the problem was that sometimes people would start their cold car, 1.5L-Turbo Hondas, and would start driving without even allowing the car to lube up, so there would be some oil dilution by the added blow-by of the fuel mixture and would further dilute the oil. Also, would not allow the engine to fully warm up, before they would shut it off, still cold, at the grocery store, just 1 mile away from their home. So the engine never got up to temp to burn off the added fuel dilution, and the engine wear will be higher because it was used as if it was warm, while it was still cold and oil was diluted, so extra wear and tear that wouldn't happen, if it was allowed to warm up before use, and kept the oil good through the oil-change-cycle.
I've heard great things about a tiny bit of Rislone Engine Oil Supplement with Zinc Treatment in every oil change, for cold-start protection for the engine bearings in our colder regions.
I think people are shocked by the design bc Honda jumped from edgy and youth oriented and went refined and sophisticated all in one model year. This civic to me looks like they looked at VW or Volvo and then added fillets to all the sharp edges in CAD. As an owner of a 16 the 22 is not a bad design, just drastically different.
As always y’all did a great job with this review, keep up the good work 💪🏼
@@andreaspencer9813 Hey Andrea, I asked Zack on IG but at 13:50 are the MPGs reversed? The 2.0 gets better than the 1.5?!
@@EdwardVarner The combined fuel economy is exactly the same surprisingly. But, the 2L does better on the highway and the 1.5L in the city by a tiny bit. These are the official numbers.
Love the synergy when presenting; excellent demo. Thanks.
Good video. Surprised more car channels are not acknowledging that even in the top trim with power seats Honda are NOT offering lumbar support. Ridiculous decision from Honda.
Almost ever review I have seen mentions no lumber support.
I'm so glad to see that Honda has gone back to a more conservative look as standard for the Civic. I find that it lost it's identity a bit for a generation or two. Leave the sharp/angular design for the SI version. This car remains the best value on the market for a nice, all around car that is fun to drive.
My concern is the 1.5L Turbocharged issues with oil dilution and long term reliability. Thanks for addressing this but I am still hesitance. I had 3 Honda’s (2004 Civic, 2014 Accord Sport, 2019 Acura RDX A-Spec). This Civic Hatchback is what I want as my around town car, fuel efficient and DYI HomeDepot hauler.
Civic has always been a favourite. It looks more like an Accord. Not sure about CVT, but love the redesign. A popular vehicle, it does have challenges with insurance being among the highest in the country.
The Civic really has grown substantially in length over the years.
ok good lol
@@grizzybear9111 fine with me
Yeah it is terrible . I love the little ones from the 70's and 80's lol. This is ugly with no character at all.
Yeah!!! And not has a forehead too.
you know why?? because you people grow in size tremendously thru out the decades, 5 grows adult cnt fit into 5th gen civic anymore
Thanks for another great review! The maturing of the design is really encouraging and gives me hope the next Type R can be a car I may consider. The 10th generation was over styled to appeal to the tuner market.
Thanks for watching!
Totally agree with Andrea regarding her opinions on the design/styling of the car.
I like the look as well. And I am glad to hear that the CRV will receive a similar treatment. I haven’t liked the exterior styling of the CRV for a long time. I think Honda did a good job. Glad the track and wheelbase are a little larger.!
Yeah the back styling looks nicer than previous generation.
I like it!
Good job guys. It's a good perspective, especially since you have the previous model.
Thank you so much!
@@andreaspencer9813 Will you be testing the Elantra N?
I LOVE my 2017 Honda Civic. When the 2022 model was first announced and I saw photos, I was really disappointed. Maybe it'll grow on me.
Zack you echoed my exact comments from the day I saw this car. It totally looks like the Jetta from the rear.
Honda needs to make it slimmer...that’s seems the be the car trend nowadays (and I’m not mad at it)
I would love to see an AWD version of the Civic. Especially in a manual hatchback.
I would like to see the crash ratings included with the reviews.
The top trim Civic is really getting quite expensive.
That "KNOB" on the infotainment screen is SUCH an eyesore!!! Other than that, it's a pretty nice looking Civic. I may get some flack but, it reminds me of an Audi A3. The other crappy thing on this beautiful car is, the CVT.
Another Great Reviews, guys..
Love the new look of this CIVIC. I owned a 1998 from brand new till 2004 DX Coupe Manual and put 160000 flawless km on it. This is the first new Civic since I've actually loved the looks of.
I heard that the more often you replace CVT fluid, the longer the CVT lasts, especially if you use a high quality full-synthetic CVT fluid. This means you would have to use a non-Honda CVT fluid.
Amsoil has a great synthetic CVT oil that everyone raves about.
I admit that I don't watch this channel religiously, but I have to say that there is something authentic and wholesome about an automotive vlogger who chooses a Civic EX as their own personal car. I'm not naming any names but it seems like most automotive TH-camrs choose very pretentious cars for their own personal use i.e. Porsche, Tesla, Range Rover, AMG, etc. They may review Civics but they're too important to own such an ordinary car. Obviously this isn't you and that makes your channel more credible. On a somewhat related note, Mrs. Spencer is a an adorable woman and brings a very welcome and refreshing perspective to the channel.
For what it's worth, I'm anxious to see what kind of changes the next model of the CR-V brings, which I assume is still currently in development. This Civic is definitely a step in the right direction, but I do feel as if they are playing it safe with the exterior. I feel the interior of the current Civic and CR-V was dated pretty from the get-go and as such has aged somewhat poorly, so hopefully they rectify that in the next release, as I'll be looking to replace my 17 CR-V when the next generation comes out.
Thanks for the kind words and come on back!
I purchased a sport touring in may 2022. It's now December. Over night it get down to about 30 degrees. The car still has a hard time getting warm in the cabin. That is my only complaint. Everything else is great.
3:47 programming a CVT to behave (mimic) like a traditional auto is just silly… I wonder if the engineers shook their heads while doing it.
Agreed.
A reliable CVT is an advancement.
Making it copy the OLD technology of
"shifting", defeats the purpose of a
CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE transmission.
@@IamDoogy Exactly 🤣
I bet most people that buy CVT don’t even care. it is probably the constant complaints from auto journalists that drove car makers to reprogram their CVT…
@@nickolastiguan And the same people who complain most likely bought manuals in the first place but unfortunately it’s clear where the market is at. I agree let a CVT do what it was designed for and work on perfecting that.
they definitely did - because CVT's are fucking amazing when you program them RIGHT - but the sales people basically force these stupid decisions because customers refuse to adjust to new technology.
Is it still super low seating? I found it hard to get in and out of my friends current generation civic.
This was the deal breaker for me on the 10th gen. The rear hip point was quite low in the rear so it didn't work for us, very hard for elderly people to get in and out of. They look like similar sized cars but the Impreza was noticeably easier to get in and out of for people with leg/hip mobility.
@@stuntmonkey00 thx
@@artagain8977u m..n@@opoploœp
I had 3 Honda cars in my lifetime. Bought a Lexus this year instead due to the oil dilution and other issues in the current Honda cars. I wish Honda was not so slow with Hybrids. Looking forward to go back to Honda in the future.
Thanks for the review! Very comprehensive as usual!
I went for the EX trim 2.0l (Canada) to be on the safe side.
New civic looks great. You two are a great team.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the review. - Andrea
My first car in Japan was civic Honda to this day I still Love it . Wonderful car . Japanese cars are wonderful . I lived in Japan for 25 years and bought many cars and honestly speaking Japanese cars never gave me any troubles I had car from USA it cast me a lot of money for repairs many times visit to garage , what can I say !
Great review! Really appreciate all the details you shared...and your honesty about the OD issue with the 1.5L turbo.
Awesome, thank you! - Andrea
IMO, extending the warranty is not fixing the problem. I think it's a cop-out by Honda. The problem has existed for a few years now. One wonders if Honda actually knows how to rectify it.
I remember my 2013 Dodge Dart with a 1.4L turbo took FOREVER to warm up during winter here in Canada. I won’t go below a 2.0L for engine size again after that experience.
I have 2017 Honda CRV touring with 1.5 turbo engine. I never had a single issue with it including heating. Pretty much maintenance free vehicle.
Keep in mind, standard features vary Canada vs. US; the US LX does not have heated seats and the US Touring doesn't have heated rear seats or heated wheel; and, many of your viewers are in the states!! Keep up the great work! (NB- no Sport trim for Canada (???), and i'm disappointed the EXL trim was dropped)...
Go watch a US channel - there are many. We are proud Canadians.
What about the Subaru Impreza?
Starts at C$19,995 With manual transmission and symmetrical full-time AWD.
pour sales for the Impreza but he Crosstrek is very popular !
@@stephanechamberland8486 Sad everyone wants an SUV when they corner like rubbish unless you get a Stelvio lol.
My Civic is a 2014 model. The heather is too warm, i put on the airco for cool air in winter time. I like snowy countries, the cold keeps me fit.
Great review! Although not having the option of the 1.5 Turbo for either the Sport sedan or the incoming hatchback model is counter-intuitive. You need to move up the the EX or Touring models for either for the turbo (which also has better gas mileage btw) but then you lose those nice sporty 18 inch wheels as standard. Someone at Honda fell asleep at the Sport model meeting.
That turbo engine is trash. I’m thankful is available without.
Thank you two! Didn’t know about the previous oil problem. I never dealt with that in my 2016 Civic 🤙
Not a fan of the honeycomb dash I find the front has a lot of similar look as the 2017 accord
It was an immediate turn off for me
Those big knobs sticking out don't help it either.
The exterior design is way better than the previous!
2022 Honda Civic = Front looks like 2017 Honda Accord, Rear looks like 2018 Honda Accord. Interior looks like 2018 Honda Accord…
Totally agree. Don't understand the excitement. Generic Japanese boring looking sedan. Completely forgettable. A fleet car for salesmen and rentals.
@Juan Dela Cruz my eyes work just fine... Mr Fake name Filipino.
I like it, it looks like an Accord. They don’t sell Accords in Europe anymore and I always wanted one, so in a few years maybe a nice used one.
Yoo!! 2:16 was such a cool idea! Very unique! First time I've seen this in a car review
Great review. I just went into my local dealership and put a deposit on the lx trim. Keeping my costs low because my first kid is on the way. I have until tomorrow to decide. This helps a lot. Thank you! Long term viewer
Congrats on the new baby and your new car!
@@Motormouth... Thank you! 🙂
Huh 🤔 Zach didn’t say anything about the “STIFF-COMPETITION”. Great review as usual.
cause he knows they need a blue pill for this Honda
Fantastic review of the new Honda Civic 👏
I think Honda polished this generation Civic perfectly. I also think is the best Civic in 3 generations as well. We will be seeing these everywhere here soon enough
Well said
easier to " polish" a design that you copied from somebody else.
Always great reviews from both of you! You guys make a great team!
Much appreciated!
A big thumbs up from the UK 👍Just stumbled across you guys because I like the Civic as a 07 Civic type r owner, a great all-round review I think they've done a really good job on this can't wait for the si and the Type R👏
Welcome aboard!
You didn't mention if the rust issue was fixed with the 2022 model? All of the civics here rust on the wheel wells 3 years after you bought one.
The 1.5 litre turbo inline-4 engine is terrific! It’s of course very smooth, which is typical of Honda and it has fantastic power and torque, with a beautifully flat torque curve (max torque from 1700rpm all the way to 5500 rpm!). I’ve had a 2016 Touring since new and now have 109,000 km on it and there have been no issues. I’ve always taken it to the Honda dealership that I bought it at for regular service.
My son also has the 2017 Civic Base sedan with the 158hp motor. It is vault solid, handles well and the only negative for me is the CVT. If Honda can couple the Civic with an automatic (like Mazda 3 does), then I think they will maximize their sales.
How much more maximizing can they do though? The Civic and the Corolla each take up 25% of the total market for compacts in the US. Everybody else is fighting for scraps. Honda isn't losing sleep over customers foregoing CVT cars for trad automatics. The Mazda3 moves 3000 units a month, the Civic does 25,000 or more.
This is a fantastic car, but I struggle with the styling. In that regard, I prefer the Corolla, which has really grown on me since its introduction.
Buy the hatch with 2 liter engine and manual transmission . That should be a very reliable vehicle . No CVT and no turbo . No problem 👍
Lovely couple 💖 Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Waiting for type r. Great great review i always waiting for couple car review every week.
Main reason I bought a 17 accord instead of the 18 is because of the 2.4 over the 1.5. I average 30 mpg and still love the drive
Big mistake they dropped the V6 imho.
@@mohammedosman88 yeah it's just a great v6 but with the epa being a thing it had to go
I’m trading my 2018 Accord for a 2022 Civic Touring and should be here in August or so. So excited!!!! Great video, instant sub. ❤️🚗
It looks HUGE! Same size as an accord?!
2022 Civic is 184 inches long. Accord is 192.2 inches. 2021 Civic is 182.7 inches.
TV TED forgot to google the specs lol
@@grizzybear9111 LOL!
I’m confused between kia deltoid and Honda civic which should I go for, I will be keeping my car for at least 5 years
Totally agree with Zack , the dual clutch in the Si would be a game changer.
Life long Honda Fanboy here....But, I have sworn off Honda. I have owned 1991 prelude 4ws, 2001 civic, 2010 civic, 2013 accord, CBR600 and Honda lawnmower. 2001 and 2010 best cars ever. 2010 civic has 232k on it right now and it is driven everyday about 450 miles a week. I will keep it till it hits 350k. Accord is one of the worse cars I have had. Oil burner. rear calipers had to be replaced at 60k. wheel hub at 80k. With the oil dilution issues of the 1.5 liter engines, I can't buy another Honda. Hondas have terrible seats. My accord can't be driven longer than an hour without back and hip pain. tread lightly when looking at Hondas. Honda was rated 12th in reliability a couple of years ago by CR. They are back up to 5. But, that is behind Mazda, Lexus, Toyota. No more Honda for me unless they get up in top 3 on reliability. The extended warranty on the oil dilution issue is meaningless. I bet one of these cars that dilute oil will not hit 200k miles. The oil being mixed with oil will cause the engine to wear much faster.
I own a 2013 Accord Sport, love it but lots of miles (170K still runs great though) so almost pulled the trigger on a new one however was never in love with the new styling. This new larger Civic is a game changer for customers who love the 2013-2017 Accord styling. I just wish the tire size and rims on the Touring were available to purchase on the Sport trim but my Honda dealer here in the States says not available for the lower tier trims which is ridiculous. Is that the same in Canada? Great Review. Cheers!
Hi, it's Andrea, thank you very much, glad you enjoyed the review. Thanks for sharing!
I love your knowledge and honesty coupled with the "his and her" input. I learned a good bit with your review and know what car I want to purchase now. BTW I hope Honda has engineered a fix for the oil dilution issue and hope that problem doesn't develop in the 2 ltr normally aspirated engine since it has direct fuel injection.
I miss the manual and the great looking coupe so much.
Are there any 2 door fwd coupes?
It's really interesting seeing a different type of Civic which we do not see in the Japanese market however, we do have many different Honda cars exclusively designed for the Japanese market.
As someone who lives in a cold climate I really can't see myself taking the risk and getting the 1.5 and not having enough heat in winter.
Heat wouldn't be the problem. Small engines heat up quicker than larger engines. I'm not sure what you've been reading to make you come to that conclusion.
I really cannot stand CVT's. I ended up getting a Corolla which my wife likes, but in manual trim. Reason being, the new engine has both port and direct injection. CVT's and direct injection only are avoid on my list. Otherwise, looks like a great car.
Good comment Fin Dango, you care about the right things on this issue. You can tell by most comments on here when people are mostly concerned with "Infotainment" that they are clueless on the important points of a vehicle
I wish they would have kept and added lane watch cameras. Instead they went with lane warning system. Always beeps when your in a multiple turning lane
Spot on as usual… I think it looks somewhat like a 3 series in profile…
I remember the original civic , nearly a third of the size of the one being reviewed.
Base is 24k?! I'd take the Sentra in this category. You can get it fully loaded for under 27k and i really like the way it looks.
Yes but Sentras have horrible transmissions and resell value. There is reasons they don’t sell well as Civics.
@@jaggerc.2017 They both have CVT and resale isn't a big thing for me so i would still choose the Sentra. I dont care if the Civic sells more.
The Sentra drives FAR worse IMO. I have a few friends with newer Nissan’s and they’ve all had problems.
Design much improved
I love the newly redesigned Honda Civic, looks like an offspring of the Accord. I especially love the Hatchback 2022 😻
Great review as always.. Have a 2020 Si with 29k on the dial and no dilution issues.. Btw all direct injection engines have some oil dilution..
Keep up the great work!😀
Great point!
not true. my hyundai turbo direct injection 1.6L has never had an oil dilution issue. but hyundai does its own steel, and also airbags....no takata grenades in our steering wheels.
Actually, when I say some oil dilution with gdi engines is normal, it's an actual fact... The engine won't have any longterm issues...
And please, do some research on Hyundai/Kia GDI engine issues... They have a terrible reputation.
Glad that you don't have any issues though!😀
They polished that diamond into the size of an Accord.
Maybe their CVT is “better” than others but what about the numb rubber band feeling in the gas pedal?
What you guys driving is the Base model?
With leather seats, heated seats, heated mirrors? I bet the price is few K extra already from the 2021 Base model.
Honda got rid of the Fit in the NA market because it just wasn't selling like it's main stable. Also, the Civic stopped being an insanely affordable car a long time ago. An inflation adjusted 2001 Civic DX manual would be $22,500 today. No one buys manuals so they dropped that as an option. The DX trim is just simply gone so when you compare a LX Auto from 2001, you end up at an adjusted $28,457. So I would say that where the Touring is only $2k CAD more, the actual DEAL you are getting these days is wicked good considering that an LX today is only $24,465 CAD.
As for how I feel about the new gen, I have a GenX. I found that only once I saw it in person at my local dealer, did I like it. The pictures just don't really work for it. I prefer the look of the rear of the hatch so I am very interested to see all the specs and reviews on the hatch soon.
The one thing that Honda Canada CONTINUES to do that rips me is that the second to top trim only get the 2.0NA engine but in the US market, they get the 1.5T. Stupid. But on the flip, the US market doesn't get a heated steering wheel or rear heated seats (Even in the touring) but Canada does. Pretty sure America isn't only Texas, Arizona and Florida...
Great reviews as always !
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