Yes Ark and Eurgh should have been in the finals in 07. that was a robbery. but this battle was judged ridiculously. Illmac killed it. Why? he was free'ing more, reacting to Ark's lines head to head. while Ark came prepared with the vengeance he wrote.
Re-watching these battles... It's sad to see what's happened with DF... Ego, pride, immaturity, distrust and not understanding and appreciation of people, battlers and business.... DF had the chance to crave out a niche lane here in the UK (Linkup Tv, GRM) and having a bigger part to playing by laying down their own foundation for the hip hop, rap culture here, Could've been the launchpad for artists and battlers... All the work those battlers put in, to not reap the reward of their sweat, blood and tears...
Illmac's opening scheme against arkaic in the third round is one of the coldest starts i've ever heard. He's speaking pure facts. Manaz, Ness Lee, Bender R.I.P, Conceited, Hollow and Tony D all had career boosting battles against Illmac. All crazy battles too
"I would never dare to say you snitch Remember in that 2v2 when Ok was there and came with Diz? It wasn't fair, Oshea would spit and you musta had flashbacks of them interrogation clips where you sit there and claim the fifth cause you was barely sayin shit"
Bias is a hell of a thing. Tenchoo is not only a superior lyricist but he can stand on his own two. Archaic is a beast. With that said Illmac took this.
"I make him go all type of nuts, like a jar full of mixed almonds"???? (13:18) I hope someone has at least referenced this line in an episode of Bad Bars.
The Short Nerd No, I'm not "sour." I am giving an honest opinion. Illmac is always dirty and you hear entire crowds go silent when he says something sick. Then some idiot British nerd spits a gun bar and they go wild. Such is the way of battle rap, I guess.
dwizzlejerk Illmac is used to being on the road I don't think he's done more then one event in Portland and don't say Vancouver wa cause that's a damn bridge drive away..
How did Illmac not win this? Bewildering. He was focused, on point, versatile and had amazing rebuttals. He brought his lyrical Hanzo blade, just like against Manaz and Bender.
I am from England and like to personally judge close battles like this. Round 1 - Arkaic, one of the best rounds I have seen from him Round 2 - Clearly Illmac Round 3 - A couple very strong bars from arc but Illmac edged it easily. 2-1 to Illmac
Illmac was set up to lose.notice how eurgh was babbling on giving ark time to think of a rebuttal in the begining of his second verse.also how eurgh came in at the begining of arks third verse so that he can say "ayo eurgh" and direct it at him.and how the camera man automatically started panning the camera right after the Kim line?? Smh illmac 3-0
I love when hip hop gives me something timeless like this. Whether it’s a battle, a song, a freestyle, something that is just enjoyable forever whenever I go back to it. I love how it brings us together, the conversation, the debates. The illest shit to one person may be wack to another, and there’s no way to prove who’s right. Hip hop is everybody’s. It ain’t dead, it can’t be dead. Cuz we still alive to vibe to it. I got illmax 3-0, not a body, Ark did amazing. The decision takes nothing away from it, we’ll all debate it forever anyway. Cheers
"i smoke more than you sold. i sold more than you know. i've lost more than you've made. i've made more than you owe. i've save more than you've seen. destroyed more than you've grown. you say more than you think. and i've think more than you spoke."BARS
Dope battle, Illmac is one of the most consistent and best all-time and Arkaic surprised me holding his own against one of the best to do it. Does Eurgh still battle or is he strictly a host now?
I can't believe the judges decision. Illmac clearly won it. Arkaic was sick as hell, but Illmaculate got it. The look on Stephnees face in the second says it all. Ill won that for sure.
MC Overt that was actually the bar i was listening to while I was typing AND it got crazy crowd reaction like it was the bar of the century lol FOH all his shit was basic, boring bars..face it
that kim kardashian line was fucking pathetic LOL I cant believe how much it is getting hyped up it was such an average line to be basing an entire decision on
Arkaic had 2 W and 7L going into this. If you're going to have a legend of battle rap in a battle, you should at least have the decency to have unbiased judges. Don't Flop is a joke for this. They wouldnt have such a problem having big events if they didnt do dirty business. Illmac 3-0. Arkaic had nothing on him. The weakest rebuttals I've ever heard, punchlines were a train wreck to say the least. He's much better now, but don't flop looks pitiful for this judgment.
Screw the results. This was genuinely sick battle. Arc went extra hard and remained consistent, minus the minor slip-up. As for Illmac, maybe it wasn't an extremely tight performance as far as delivery goes, but just as Arc was consistent with the crazy bars, Illmac was consistent with changing the whole script, just pretty much touching basis on what he figured Arc would have brought to him. I personally edged it to Illmac, but this battle in general will remain on my list, so I can replay it.
They seemed to be enjoying themselves and they seem to respect each other. It's nice to see that. Good battle. I don't give a fuck who won, really. I was entertained the whole time.
Just read like 40 comments and every one is the same...bc it's the truth..I saw this battle when it came out just never read the comments...lol..don't flop should be embarrassed wit them judges tho..
i smoke more then you sold. I sold more then you know. I lost more then you made & made more then you owe. I saved more then you've seen, destroyed more then you've grown. You say more then you think, & i think more then you spoke-illmac best lines in the battle
It was a close battle of different styles, the reason why arkaic won was because dont flop judges generally like that kind of style- (delivery and punchlines). If it was done on KOTD or some other league ill mac probably might have won because the judges would have preffered the bars. Great performance from both of them.
Man that win for arcaic was so set up with those fake breaks eurgh generated by ramblin on before every round of his and than appearing right on time when he's bein referenced in the third. He exactly knew what arc wrote and when he was going to do a flip. The only round which could be debatable was the third where illmac mostly spitted generic stuff. But stylewise arcaic just couldn't hang with illmac. So poor judgement and probably like he said their "revenge" for 07 - the jump off - days.That's the kind of shit that puts a whole league in a bad light.
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Please dont judge the British on the judges of this battle we all got illmac on this on despite where we live, real heads know
For real, 3-0 Illmac on behalf of Croydon
Yo, those judges are an embarrassment.
7:07
13:30
19:22
You're welcome.
The cause arkaic sucks
Illmac won... Of course he lost tho the all the Judges were from UK !... Fresh Coast took that W
Yes Ark and Eurgh should have been in the finals in 07. that was a robbery. but this battle was judged ridiculously. Illmac killed it. Why? he was free'ing more, reacting to Ark's lines head to head. while Ark came prepared with the vengeance he wrote.
Illmac mopped the floor with Ark, these judges should not judge anymore.
ILLMACULATE is a beast.... Monster hands down
Re-watching these battles...
It's sad to see what's happened with DF...
Ego, pride, immaturity, distrust and not understanding and appreciation of people, battlers and business....
DF had the chance to crave out a niche lane here in the UK (Linkup Tv, GRM) and having a bigger part to playing by laying down their own foundation for the hip hop, rap culture here, Could've been the launchpad for artists and battlers...
All the work those battlers put in, to not reap the reward of their sweat, blood and tears...
Both of these are sick. Fantastic battle. Very re watchable. That Marge returning from the shops Barr gets me every time!
Illmac's opening scheme against arkaic in the third round is one of the coldest starts i've ever heard. He's speaking pure facts. Manaz, Ness Lee, Bender R.I.P, Conceited, Hollow and Tony D all had career boosting battles against Illmac. All crazy battles too
Illmac got robbed on this one...true story
coolboymake Well then Arkaic got mugged... Realer story
illmac all day. He's been killing it recently
Worst thing about Ark is he clearly lost to the guy whose style he bit.
Damn Illmac got robbed..
"I would never dare to say you snitch
Remember in that 2v2 when Ok was there and came with Diz?
It wasn't fair, Oshea would spit
and you musta had flashbacks of them interrogation clips
where you sit there and claim the fifth
cause you was barely sayin shit"
illmaculate 3-0! The bias was real in this one.
Bias is a hell of a thing. Tenchoo is not only a superior lyricist but he can stand on his own two. Archaic is a beast. With that said Illmac took this.
Illmac .. Killed it .. 3-0 .
ya that Arkaic dudes shit is not structured cool at all... Mac all 3 rounds
plus in the second round when he stumbled, he lost any momentum he had built up. For me, he killed himself at that exact moment. 10:54 - 10:58
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Zyrus Smith lol
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he didn't just lose momentum, I think he forgot his text. That's what killed him.
Zyrus Smith 👉 L
"I make him go all type of nuts, like a jar full of mixed almonds"???? (13:18) I hope someone has at least referenced this line in an episode of Bad Bars.
great battle! Illmac is a fucking legend man.
Illmac destroyed him on personals. Americans don't win judged contests in London, period.
I don't think that's completely true but the home field advantage definitely helped
Bullshit. Rone beat blizzard for example. You're just sour that an American got killed here, 3-0
The Short Nerd No, I'm not "sour." I am giving an honest opinion. Illmac is always dirty and you hear entire crowds go silent when he says something sick. Then some idiot British nerd spits a gun bar and they go wild. Such is the way of battle rap, I guess.
dwizzlejerk Illmac is used to being on the road I don't think he's done more then one event in Portland and don't say Vancouver wa cause that's a damn bridge drive away..
The Short Nerd 👉 L
Arkaic was unbelievably corny and wack lol
I don't even believe in you yet I agree with this
dont flop blows, illmac won that shit CLEAR
im so curious, please let me know if it looks like arkaic has the "please stop bullying me face" permanently
All I can say is dope battle, both MC's are fresh with the bars.
How did Illmac not win this? Bewildering. He was focused, on point, versatile and had amazing rebuttals. He brought his lyrical Hanzo blade, just like against Manaz and Bender.
illmac was robbed of this one tony d and porich and diaz
one funny line about kim and everyones just freaks out.. dude his shit was alright but he doesn't do just straight rap fuck that its illmacs win
illmacs first round rebuttal shit was genius, ark played right into his hand. illmac got it.
That tire inter-tube line was nice..Illmac had this whole battle on lock. Dont Flop be a little too biased.
I am from England and like to personally judge close battles like this.
Round 1 - Arkaic, one of the best rounds I have seen from him
Round 2 - Clearly Illmac
Round 3 - A couple very strong bars from arc but Illmac edged it easily.
2-1 to Illmac
An egg that hatched a human killed me.
Great battle! Couldn't pick a winner tbh, poster battle for bars and jokes man perfect mixture
I dont need to watch this battle to know Illmac the beast won.. c'mon now Archaic s a joke
That "more than you" scheme might be one of my all-time favorite chunks of a battle verse.
Illmac was set up to lose.notice how eurgh was babbling on giving ark time to think of a rebuttal in the begining of his second verse.also how eurgh came in at the begining of arks third verse so that he can say "ayo eurgh" and direct it at him.and how the camera man automatically started panning the camera right after the Kim line?? Smh illmac 3-0
Yup, then that weak ass rebuttal he spit at the start of 2 didn't even make sense.... Such a robbery!
Payback for the WRC07 finals
I love when hip hop gives me something timeless like this. Whether it’s a battle, a song, a freestyle, something that is just enjoyable forever whenever I go back to it. I love how it brings us together, the conversation, the debates. The illest shit to one person may be wack to another, and there’s no way to prove who’s right. Hip hop is everybody’s. It ain’t dead, it can’t be dead. Cuz we still alive to vibe to it. I got illmax 3-0, not a body, Ark did amazing. The decision takes nothing away from it, we’ll all debate it forever anyway. Cheers
Illmac left his brain bleeding and leaking, EASY! Illmac all 3
"i smoke more than you sold.
i sold more than you know.
i've lost more than you've made.
i've made more than you owe.
i've save more than you've seen.
destroyed more than you've grown.
you say more than you think.
and i've think more than you spoke."BARS
This was a ridiculously close battle. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Would of been OT if it was back in the day.
Illmac clearly won 3-0
wow illmac was robbed! tenchoo was the only one who got it right.
Fuck yeah he got robbed. That was payback from eur&ark getting robbed at the WRC07 finals
Illmac won
ILLMACULATE!
shudnt have been judged.
big up these 2 man, been producing entertaining battles since i started watching this shit!
ill Mac won...
Dope battle, Illmac is one of the most consistent and best all-time and Arkaic surprised me holding his own against one of the best to do it. Does Eurgh still battle or is he strictly a host now?
Bruh how did illmac lose?
Fukin biased Brits bro. Was not close at all IMO hahah
Thanks Eurgh the battle was epic both mc's were incredible!!!
Robbed
Clearly Illmac won
“This is as dark as I can spit it” lmao
I can't believe the judges decision. Illmac clearly won it. Arkaic was sick as hell, but Illmaculate got it. The look on Stephnees face in the second says it all. Ill won that for sure.
"LOOk at me everyone"
Illmac slated him. Ark was choking here and there, mac was smashing all 3 rounds
The Ars/Con/Hollow angle is maaaaaaaaaad played out. Almost as annoying as Rone/Penn State. Ark takes an L.
One of the best international battles I've seen!
fuckin love illmac. murder
Battle starts at 4:05
sooooo biased!!!....smh illmac 2-1
Eurgh you in beardgang gang too? Welcome bruv
skipped arkaic verses, dudes trash. Illmac took this easy
Here for my yearly post about how illmac got robbed 😅😂
Super biased judging.
wtf now the vodeo just mutes b4 Lil dude pwns him
i cant believe this crowd rewarded such simple bs lines from ark. illmac killed him clear as day
Simple or complex.... Nonetheless his bars hit hard!
MC Overt "blow this yank out the water like pearl harbor" FOH that hit about as hard as a pillow fam
+ Jay Bee lol you pick the worst bar of the whole battle to reference? Really? FOH
MC Overt that was actually the bar i was listening to while I was typing AND it got crazy crowd reaction like it was the bar of the century lol FOH all his shit was basic, boring bars..face it
I'll agree to disagree. You have your opinion and I have mine...
This battle deserves more views IMO
Arkaic is no way shape or form a better writer than illmac. But shit happens
illmac is dope man. glad to see he's still doin' this
that kim kardashian line was fucking pathetic LOL I cant believe how much it is getting hyped up it was such an average line to be basing an entire decision on
Wow... This is one hell of a battle... Barz everywhere!!!
Talk about biased judging...Illmac got screwed twice; here and against Tony D. UK judges are quite insecure about their hometown heroes losing...
this is marge returning from the shop, im back homieeeeeee
Illmculate took that
illmac all the way his bars always have me thinking for a while after i watch one of his battles.
ILLMAC destroyed that fool period.
11:33 best bar of the battle was "YOU CAN GET INTO MY COUNTRY BUT I CAN'T GET INTO YOURS"
Aside from that, Arkaic was not too good at all.
Arkaic had 2 W and 7L going into this. If you're going to have a legend of battle rap in a battle, you should at least have the decency to have unbiased judges. Don't Flop is a joke for this. They wouldnt have such a problem having big events if they didnt do dirty business. Illmac 3-0. Arkaic had nothing on him. The weakest rebuttals I've ever heard, punchlines were a train wreck to say the least. He's much better now, but don't flop looks pitiful for this judgment.
The Kim Kardashian line was hard
illmac 2-1
His second was crazy
This is revenge for the battle in USA where ark n eurgh got robbed by judges against wapps n juice
ILLMACULATE Destroyed Him!!!!
I don't really care about the judges decision or who actually won, both sick.
Illmac is beast!!!
Is that old boy behind eurgh?
Robbery!!!!
Screw the results. This was genuinely sick battle. Arc went extra hard and remained consistent, minus the minor slip-up. As for Illmac, maybe it wasn't an extremely tight performance as far as delivery goes, but just as Arc was consistent with the crazy bars, Illmac was consistent with changing the whole script, just pretty much touching basis on what he figured Arc would have brought to him. I personally edged it to Illmac, but this battle in general will remain on my list, so I can replay it.
lmao at arkaic tryin to flex that tought guy act. ill-mac 3-0
They seemed to be enjoying themselves and they seem to respect each other. It's nice to see that. Good battle. I don't give a fuck who won, really. I was entertained the whole time.
MAD intensity from both sides!
Just read like 40 comments and every one is the same...bc it's the truth..I saw this battle when it came out just never read the comments...lol..don't flop should be embarrassed wit them judges tho..
after watching tenchoo's judgment though definetly sums up how i feel about the whole battle
OMG... Illmac. Killed him.
Tenchoo drops ? Looking forward to that
i smoke more then you sold. I sold more then you know. I lost more then you made & made more then you owe. I saved more then you've seen, destroyed more then you've grown. You say more then you think, & i think more then you spoke-illmac best lines in the battle
14:14 arkaic starts unintentionally bobbing his head to illmac lines... classic
That back to the future line was so sick!
It was a close battle of different styles, the reason why arkaic won was because dont flop judges generally like that kind of style- (delivery and punchlines). If it was done on KOTD or some other league ill mac probably might have won because the judges would have preffered the bars. Great performance from both of them.
Man that win for arcaic was so set up with those fake breaks eurgh generated by ramblin on before every round of his and than appearing right on time when he's bein referenced in the third. He exactly knew what arc wrote and when he was going to do a flip. The only round which could be debatable was the third where illmac mostly spitted generic stuff. But stylewise arcaic just couldn't hang with illmac. So poor judgement and probably like he said their "revenge" for 07 - the jump off - days.That's the kind of shit that puts a whole league in a bad light.
in the line of fire like the clock tower in back 2 the future that was nice
Beginning of Illmac's 3rd verse, best freestyle rebuttal of the year so far