KOTD - Rap Battle - Arsonal vs Illmaculate |
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- @KingOfTheDot - @ArsonalDaRebel vs @Illmaculate
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Born and raised in dirty Jerz, Arsonal is one of the world's most popular and respected battle rappers. From his days destroying the competition in the Lions Den and on Fight Klub to his new era dominance in the Ultimate Rap League, King of the Dot and Grind Time, there are few names that attract the attention that Da Rebel does. His battles with Hollow Da Don, Conceited, Hitman Holla, T-Rex, Okwerdz and Pat Stay are all classics, and all bouts that Arsonal would never claim to have taken a loss in. Brazenly aggressive and destructive with his vocal style, Arsonal's pen game focuses on the creation of long lasting schemes and rhythmic acrobatics. His battle with Illmaculate will be his second for KOTD, and his third in the Fresh Coast, where he has had nothing but overwhelming success in the past.
Portland's finest battle veteran Illmaculate has been one of the most highly regarded MCs in the culture for over ten years. Getting his start in the freestyle era and breaking out with his Scribble Jam victory in 2004, Illmac went on to win JumpOff's World Rap Championships two years in a row shortly after. Once the written format became dominant, Illmaculate didn't miss a step, performing in high profile matchups with battlers like The Saurus, Dizaster, Bender, Eurgh, Hollow Da Don and Conceited. Illmac is one of the most well rounded battlers in the world, possessing a commanding delivery, a complex lyrical style and the ability to go off of the head at a moments notice. His battle with Arsonal will be his sixth for KOTD and one of many he has put up in his home division of the Fresh Coast.
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What happened before the battle: Arsonal refused to battle until they payed him the rest of his money, but they didn't have it at the time, Ilmac heard this and got so pissed off because he was told the battle might not happen so he started punching walls and drinking-that's why he's drunk in the battle in case you didn't notice. I won't say who I think won, but, imagine Illmac was sober.
THANK YOU! I just explained this on another post because people was trying to play Mac about this particular battle. Ars always pulling bullshit like this and Ars did the same thing with the 1st Hollow battle!
"This is my round, why are you speaking in it? This is the hottest verse in the battle and you just wanna be featured in it" ok ill I see you.
Ya no😞🤦🏿♂🤷🏿♂😩
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Years later im still coming back to watch this classic
youll never see surf battle suge ...ars you got some explaining to do
"You'll never see Surf battle Suge" -Ars ..... well that happened
Factz
That’s why it’s never good to say never
Tsu Surf just battled Suge on UW stage a few years ago. Exactly
illmac should've jus stood there instead of constantly reacting. we could see ars was really gettin to him
His defense sucks
@@bdubb1331ye cause he’s drunk. Arsenal was a arsenal and demanded the 2nd half of his money before the battle but they didn’t have it at the event so it wasn’t going to go ahead so ill started to get pissed
Illmac's drunk af but his 1st two rounds are so fire.
Alright here it is...
Round #1: Arsonal (Mac went in with the personals but Ars landed more blows with them straight bars)
Round #2: Illmaculate (Mac calling Ars out on all sorts of shit, Ars came with them bars but to much filler this round)
Round #3: Arsonal (Mac on some embarrassing shit, Ars slaughtered this round)
Winner: Arsonal 2-1
agreed
Thank you!
Elliot Fedorka Agreed, not to mention, Ill ran out of shit to say on that third round so he gave that one away, Ars had bars for days but most of it was irrelevant
Elliot Fedorka Fact. Anyone claiming Ill won just wants to have an unpopular opinion.
Perfect breakdown.
"I fuck you up,all kicks,while rocking Passion Of Christ sandals." Lol
Illmaculate looks like a young version of Ice-T
you hit that on the head lol he also look like Yung Berg.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao 😂😂 thank you for putting it out there
Stupid lmao
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Arsonal is my favorite battle rapper.
Why you take away guns and violence and has nothing to say lol 1 trick pony
Sus Matrix facts
A none violent battle rap !!!judge joe brown you may wanna find you some other type of entertainment. Like ballet 🩰 or gymnastics 🤸♀️ maybe opera.all none violent IM just tryna help you out a little bit
@@saintstorm7 I don't like arsonal that much but its more than that. He has personals, presence, sometimes he schemes, sometimes he comes with bars.
Why
Ars 3-0 too much for em
stellar performance from the boy ars.
Arsenal 3-0. That nigga just murdered him...
Arsonal is a monster. I don't think people appreciates his freestyles, wordplay, flow, jokes, off the top, flips, etc. The dude's got bars on deck and the only bodybag of hollow da don in his back pocket. Respect game.
youll never see surf battle suge ...ars you got some explaining to do
"Every one of your battles gets a million views?"
Ars: "Welcome to the club..." lmao
It looked like illmac wanted to cry
Much respect to Arsenal for this one. Way to show true love for the culture. The way he handled that third round was some classy shit man big ups!
Other than all the bitch shit Arsonal used to do before battles, I agree with you.
What did he used to do before battles?
to Nel N.E.L.:
Many say Arsenal is the best. He doesn't duck anyone and he beat Charlie Clips, Conceited, Aye-Verb, T-Rex, DNA etc.
Scar Sighted
Well, supposedly vs. Okwerdz and vs. Pat Stay he switched the time limits last minute. I think even to unlimited vs. Pat Stay. Vs. Illmaculate Arsonal cancelled the battle over a disagreement over money, so Illmaculate got drunk since the battle was off (and hey, it's still a party) and eventually Arsonal got the money he was demanding and the battle became back on after Illmaculate was drunk. Arsonal and "bitch shit" is synonymous.
Stefan Robert
I don't think people say Arsonal is the best anymore after he choked in like 4 straight battles. Dude was on a losing streak for a while.
What's the general consensus here? Did Charlie Clips take it? :)
Gy
+Jay Harper he edged it 2-1
Charlie Clips is life. He is the harbinger of destruction and rebuilding. Bin Yahweh NWX Clips, father of DNA the Toothless
I don't think him being drunk had ANYTHING to do with this 3rd round. I think Ars got under his skin and had him pissed off and thinking too hard. Ars won but it's a little wack how he be more touchy and closer to people he know ain't about that life. He gets in everyone's face to an extent but does it with a different demeanor vs certain pple...... smh
Na id agree if I seen illmac drunk any other time in a battle but he clearly is drunk an was tryin to do flips an forgot his verse if he wasn't drinkin idk if that would of happened ill take illmac at his word he said he was drunk so since hes neer choked before ill believe him!
rich merchant if that's the case then why did he remember round 1 and 2 damn near flawlessly. I understand what ure saying. But I think arsonal really got to him. Illmac wasnt even as cool as he normally is battling. U can tell he was kinda pissed
Chad Hampton He was drinking during the battle though XD
Illlmac wasn't on his A game and Ars was. Simple as that.
because he cut him off during his round for times and asked a question would of fucked anyone up i would of hit him and im patient lol
A R S O N A L...enough said!!
Ilmac has talent, but he was drunk, and didn't use his full talent. This is one of Arsonal's best performances ever. His third round is legendary, one for the books. I can't believe he brought such a heavy arsonal of bars against Ilmac in that round. The very definition of "bodying" an opponent. His brand name scheme was literally brilliant. God fucking damn those were some scorching bars.
We need a pt 2 to this. Give us a rematch
Not the same ars
Its funny people giving Illmac a pass for being drunk, if Ars was drunk and Illmac was sober would those same people be giving Ars the pass? Doubtful, peoples attempt to hide their bias is so transparent. It is blatantly obvious that Ars won this, he bullied him and it worked, next battle.
.... If the situation was the same. if mac said he wasn't going to battle than when Ars gets a little drunk he said he was gonna battle I'd call mac a bitch but he doesn't do the bullshit
He doesn't get a pass but ars did some dirty shit.
Me? haha fuck you :)
It's simple arsenal CHOSE to have a drunk opponent when he knew he would be sober if he said he would battle him. Used some low down dirty tricks to beat Illmac and he hardly beat a drunk man.
I'm pretty sure there is a ton of big bosses that would disagree with you. Organik is an example. Also no matter what you say Arsonal took an advantage of the system and is a little fucking bitch.
IMO put him in the URL against Charlie Clips and Tay Rock etc. He'd get torched. There's a reason why he doesn't battle people like that. If he was as nice as everyone thinks, then he'd be cookin those type of dudes.
I swear my phone fucking knows me I was thinking about illmac first round vs Arsonal earlier today and here it is on my recommended shit. Every time I think about a battle or a video or even a artist TH-cam puts it on there for me to watch
instead of "woooo" you sayin "owwww" that's the ric flair backwards lmfaoooo
Corny
The third round is painffulllll to watch..smh. Dude should of slowed down on the drinking.
I'm not sure if you've read the comments, but it should be clear by now that the battle was either canceled or delayed because Arsonal wouldn't battle until he got more money (or got the rest of his money), so Illmac continued drinking assuming the battle wasn't going to happen, and then magically Arsonal ended up agreeing to battle. This kind of bullshit happens in a lot of Arsonal battles, like vs. Pat Stay over time limits, and maybe all the way back to vs. Okwerdz or Dizaster.
Oh ok...I wasn't aware. Thanks for informing me.
@That Guy so if the battle is canceled he should still get ready for it? Shut up dumb fuck
@@jraymond1988 Bruh Shut Up IllMac Is A Corny Rapper Ars 3-0 easy
@@jraymond1988 He still wouldn't of been able to beat Arsonal, Arsonal would of killed him the same. He spat very good this battle, literally zero f ups, quick, lyrical, comical, he had great delivery and bars in this fucking battle, sorry... too easy.
That drive by bar had me rolling 😂😂
I would pay a ticket to see a battle rap tour come through my city!
11:14 "you aint never see O-red battle Surf, or see Surf battle Suge, or see Suge battle me, coz we dont do that in da hood...."
4 years later....
Nath Anter Swear I was thinking the same thing
Nath Anter on his league 😂😂😂😂
It took 4 years tho
this crowd was weak as fuck!! Ars was on fire
2 years later and it's still crazy to see Illmac die like that against a quote unquote gun bar rapper jeez 3-0 Ars no debating Illmac is nice don't get me wrong he has some classic performances but this night he got gis bodybag put in a bodybag
Everyone says he was to fucked up buy that's his bad causr the sober ILL would be killed Ars
@@707ridah Woulda coulda shoulda. True professionals don't make excuses like females. Man up and take that 3-0 execution like a G.
@@HoustonIsImmortal wanna know what else true professionals don't do? Bitch about the money at the venue, tell the league owner you ain't battling, then magically agree to the battle well over an hour and a half later when their opponent, who was told that they weren't gonna,be battling anymore that night, is drunk.
So take that professional shit and get the fuck outta here with it because you obviously have zero clue of the shit that arsonal pulled.
@@Crazhead89 so what he stopped writing for ars??? His fault
@@chuckobucko2896 Wow, you really don’t have any clue about what you’re talking about, do you? Did you watch the pay per view for the event? No? Ok then.
All that shit that I said happened THE DAY OF THE EVENT. As in, the rounds were prepped on both sides. Arsonal pulled some diva shit when it was time for him and Ill to battle, KOTD went forward with the last battle on the card, Diz vs Canibus, and then, at minimum, an hour after saying he wasn’t gonna do the battle and that information being relayed to Illmac who then drank because why the fuck wouldn’t he, he wasn’t gonna be battling, Arsonal agreed to do the battle.
If you’re gonna talk about something, it helps knowing what you’re talking about.
Illmac didn’t choke. He just did his Mike Jones impression. Genius
I'm looking at all these comments and even if illmaculate had arsonals delivery he still sounds like a corny weirdo
Mac is corny as fuck! 2024
This is the first time I watched this battle the whole way through, and I say Ars got it, but it was by no means a demolishing. Both verses for the first two runs were on point, although I preferred Ars subject matter a tad more, and then the 3rd went to Ars, clean. However, Ill came pretty slick. I love his confidence, and the slow, clear, and potent approach in his presence. Sometimes it works to his advantage, sometimes it doesn't.
OMG Arsonal is officially on my TOP 5!!!! The wow factor you are !!!
All the book worms think Illmac won. Arsonal CLEARLY annihilated this man.
all the basic ass bums holding down jobs at burger king think ARS won. ill clearly outclassed this dude- as expected.
Cold Stare lol who's really mad here?
newyorkaces of your dumbass cant comprehend complex rhymes, then dont even formulate an opinion. K thanks
D Paek Complex rhymes? You can barely construct a sentence. What the fuck are you talking about...
newyorkaces half of ars shit was generic gun lines...real boring. He got called out for being a bitch pretending to be thug and didnt rebuttal shit except for the third over detroit. He ruined the third round from his boring part to interupting ill.
21:38 the wordplay 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Damn...Arsonal 3-0. Illmaculate's first two rounds were cool, but he fell off in the third. Arsonal's 'Metta World Peace' and 'Soap' bars were killers
Lol. The soap bars were corny
youll never see surf battle suge ...ars you got some explaining to do
People are making way to many excuses for illmaculate . He took this loss and was able to make progression
Thankyou!!! Whether he had been drinking or not, his words are his words. He wrote everything for this battle and memorized it and said it. Having a little energy with a more sober mind isn't going to enhance words you wrote. If it's wack in comparison to the other guy's stuff he wrote, then it is what it is.
19:08 killed immaculate
illmac needs a rematch sober and come back for a rematch that was hard to watch mac is way better than that
No he wasn’t he’s mediocre as he is
@@ccf3195 are you kidding? He's pretty much in everyone's top ten pen list.
@@eugeneslaven9291 top ten??? That’s too much. Top 5 pens if anything and he’s not top 5
Mac is corny
@@ccf3195 illmaculate is far from
Mediocre.
It's sad I knew illmac was dead once I seen ars in the thumbnail -.-...
Your clock tickin
When it's beef my block thicken
Got a long-nose Glock
And its competing with Scott Pippin When that long-nose Pop
I just say it's snot dripping
Everything red on the scene
But the beam the dot different🔥🔥
-Ars
Ars got him a mean body.
That whole video was dope. Ars had some hella witty shit to say, I find how he bounces between references and gunplay on the same scheme. Mac had a good flow to demonstrate and hella pointed shit out but the way ars freestyled rebuttals was all class.
Wow I'm from Oregon and love illmac, but holy shit. Ars bodied him. I've never seen illmac get destroyed like dat.
Watch him vs. Conceited or Hollow
Watch him vs. Carter Deems
Came back to this battle after Illmac’s bias review or Ars vs Geechi
For those saying Arsonal won, you must've not understood what Illmac rapped. He broke down Arsonal's entire character, especially in the 2nd round. 1st broke the midget slogan down, 2nd broke down his thug image. I think if Illmac wasn't drunk, his 3rd would've broke down Arsonal entirely. BUt as is, 2-1 Ilmac. Plus, I rate rebuttals as a huge hit if they connect, and not rebuttaling something huge as a big minus. Arsonal didn't debate anything Illmac said, just went back to his gun shit even after Illmac broke his thug image. The only thing that I found really hit was his hood rules scheme.
Kalamite you're a clown if bars went over any ones head it was yours; illmac had a terrible performance the entire battle, the only thing that was nice was the world peace rebuttal but other than that his shit was miserable. Arsonal absolutely murdered this man third degree, he was consistent the entire time, had a ton of hard hitting shit, he freestyled a little bit and was just all around far more appealing, you're a fool.
How can you possibly say illmac won 2-1? Did you even watch the battle? If you think the third round was the only round he didn't win then I think you need some serious medical attention because you're probably suffering from a concussion. Ars absolutely murdered Mac, and I'm a fan of his; but I have seen far better from illmac and it's clear that he got bodied here.
Matthew Melcher
Naw, all I heard in the first 2 rounds was his usual crip gun bars. only in the 3rd did he say anything direct to Illmac. Furthermore, Illmac broke Arsonal's character and his slogans down completely. That's why I gave Ill the first 2 rounds. Also, I'd prefer if you could talk respectfully instead of dissing my intelligence because of a difference in opinion. It only makes you look like the stupid one.
Dan Marzec
Yeah, I'm a fool because I have a differing opinion and prefer direct bars rather than the same gun bars every battle? Yeah, *I'M* the fool....
Yeah blame him he was drunk.. Fuck outta here, His fuck up he couldn't handle his drank lol. Boy got bodied stop trying to find excuses
years later it still makes me laugh how drunk ill is.
Skipped illmac's last round. He was whack as fuck
he was painful to watch in the last round and he ripped off both Immortal Tech and Eminem
Michael Loufus
your comment is how i know youre not a battle fan and youre just a nobody who jumped on to comment his two cents
"he ripped off immortal tech and eminem"
no he used them as a reference inside his bars to diss Arsonal... derrrrrrrr
start paying attention
The dude with no face calls me a "nobody".
Joke
i'm mainly referencing your stupidity in saying "he ripped off eminem"
i LOL'd so hard
he ripped them off.. more like used a reference as a diss
SMH
Did this battle take place in the same room as a table tennis tournament?
This video is in loving memory of Gary Coleman May he rest in peace
Ars completely got in his head I dont care how drunk he was
Uncomfortable that 3rd round....illmac is fire but he's so drunk everyone around is uncomfortable they all know
Ars: you'll never see surf battle suge
Everyone 5 years later: 🐸 🍵
This was lowkey a classic on the low besides the 3rd
I have soooo much respect for Immaculate. Extremely intelligent & dynamic. Role model material.
@ISTYLES11 this comment is literally 10 years old dumbass , probably older than you too 😂 you the only one over here “glazing” anything
@ISTYLES11 all these comments is old they just boomers wait for the MK reference.
Imagine calling an alcoholic a role model 😂😂
"What about our height makes you mad af?" Lmao .. classic battle
wanna see a rematch...
DNA bought me here with his big mouth. But he told the truth ars whipped illmac ass this day.
James Claus Bruh, I watched for the second time and the ass whipping delivered by Arse is glorious.
Second time watching this....
I'm an Illmaculate supporter and all I remembered was how it was kind of sad how Illmac was sloppy in the 3rd round and repeated stuff twice, hence not really wanting to see him perform badly again, but...
Upon watching it again, Illmaculate definitely smoked Ars in the first 2 rounds.
It wasn't as bad as I remembered, Illmac sorta got through his 3rd round and he at least ended it on his own terms.
Ars has some slick moments and how he can shift, but has so much recycle and filler in his rhymes, the lyrical dexterity and polish of his delivery, I just wish he had more content.
Great breakdown. I felt the same. That said, illmac 2-1 his 3rd was a bad choke and then he freestyled horribly to try to save it, I can't give him the round off of the first half even if the guilty conscience angle was fire
@@NoOne-hx9ir The denial is legendary. I hope you aren't in law school with this week ass argument.
Ars won 3-0 stop capping
@@HoustonIsImmortal no cap I thought Ill won tbh
Illmac was drunk
Ill mac a weirdo, bro. Body language speaks volumes
idk if I watched this before if so probably re-watching, didn't finish yet but so far "instead of woo you saying oow that's the ric flair backwards" made me laugh a lil
Bro was hoping they ain’t finish paying him so he ain’t have to take this L 😂 😂
Illmaculate was too tipsy .
ha
Randhy nigga don't you EVER Diss Bob Saget ya heard? He be working them Night Moves on ya grams
what a bullshit excuse lmao
LiL man drinks a 40oz and blackout
707 SaV lmao
Ars killed this corny dude clearly
Ars clearly caught a body.... Clearly... No debating lol
Anybody saying Mac is top 5 is smoking crack
Ars got fucked up you weak ass nigga
Lmao..... U obviously don't kno battle rap like that.....
Or u are a troll
Ars clearly did win, but Illmaculate is straight up top tier battle rapper material. I've watched him beat down Conceited and Charlie Clips another rapper I consider top tier. Ars brought his A-game and Mac wasn't on his shit but to deny Mac's abilities is just plain ignorant.
Elliot Fedorka u are also on crack conceited smoked illmacs boots no debating lol ....illmac is good but I can name 5 better battle rappers ....so IMO he not top 5
Illmac got bodied, this is actually like a classical body. 'small room' two proven battlers and one dominating in just about every way you could possibly score it. The first Ars got clearly, the 2nd debateable and the third was a 10/8 round, TKO. Illmac is dope... in other battles lol.
Is that Dose One standing next to Organik?
organic and gully didnt react at all while illmac was spitting !!!!
Mac's third round is painful to watch
Whats funny is he referenced eminem songs than choked like b rabbit in 8 mile.
"You couldn't kick it with me if you stole the sneakers and the shoe strings off of Liu Kang".
Dammm broooo ..... GOOD ONE !! Hahah
call me crazy but illmaculate had the better lyrics. especially in the first round. his delivery was fucked from bein drunk but arsonal didn't say anything that impressed me
Judging by the comments a lot feel the same.
u are crazy and probably short 😂😂
+Mathew Cottrell not crazy at all. anyone looking at this objectively would agree. and of course that's on Illmac for being drunk, but none the less, his actual lyrics were better. but lyrics are only half the battle, pardon the pun
Mathew Cottrell definitely not crazy
Damn 3-0 ars. I knew ars was gone fuck him up.
daaaamn illmac look like he been on that whitney haaard with that champion money
Classic! Both brought their A game. I must saw draw though.
Illmaculate is a fkn G I've been watching him rap since waaaay back since it was him & thesaurus
Dam...Arsonal killed him...lol
easy win...but truly a mismatch.
What happened to Illmac in round 3?
Solid Battle gotta gonwith Arsonal
Illmaculate admitted to losing. Stop trying to give him the W. Even if illmaculate is a better rapper he lost this one. Simple as that
You said ars past his prime well he just retired you
He also arguably beat Bigg K, which almost nobody has done in the past few years, outside of Big Kannon.
@@jraymond1988 just beat Soul, Iron, JC and Chilla Jones too lol
Arsonal took it. Damn he was consistent ASF .Mac should have not let Ars's aggression get to him but you can definitely see the improvement in how Mac handles shit now ..big ups to both cats for the classic
youll never see surf battle suge ...ars you got some explaining to do
@@itsanewworld you been replying ts to every comment
whose the dude in the Fresh Coast shirt?
Arsonal's battles always reach a million. This one will soon. He's easily the most watched!
youll never see surf battle suge ...ars you got some explaining to do
Already did🔥🗣️
@@DaGargon. he said that wouldn't battle
Why does Illmaculate keep turnin his hat.
He was pertending to be two people dre and em it was genius
19:11 so this is where Lush stole the “Kicks like lui kang” bar he ALWAYS uses
This may be the best battle of all time lol
😂 he said "you have to be tough". To fake threat, and insult women and children and dead people who can't defend themselves? In a situation where people aren't allowed to punch you...yeah that's tough
arsonal is a BEAST
man I seriously felt bad for Illmac in this battle, dude was getting bullied, Arsonal 3-0, if you love battle rap as much as I do, follow me on twitter @AllThingBR for unbiased reviews, predictions, and quotes from battles everywhere
22:45 Gullys face when ill says he'll smack his ass lmfaoo
3-0 to ars. but id be more than up for seeing a rematch. judged as well. illmac is usually much better than this, but ars dont do rematches or judged battles so its never gonna happen.... shame.
He need his bread!!! He aint playing!! Respect his hustle.. Shout out to ARS!!! It aint easy being Bossy!!!
Hands down he won that battle!!!
22:15 IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT EVER "RIIIIIGGGGGH-TIME NIGGA!!!"
If you take out Illmac's third, this would have been a legendary battle.
I can't argue with however anyone scored the first two rounds, but I had it 1-1 going to the third, with Ill taking the second and Ars edging the first.
But even if you had it 2-0 Illmac, which is not crazy, he lost that third round so bad, you can't really say he beat Ars. And Ars came strong every round.
I guess im the only one that think Ars just KILLED ??
lol ars killed him
woulda liked to see how this woulda went if Illmac was sober
Hope we see a rematch. ILL would body him
WHOOOP!!!!! WITH NO RELATIONS, BIG BIRD!
wow....At the Starting Arsonal is at Hotel Cecil.....where the girl "Passed away" in the water tank