Analysis of Daniil Medvedev’s Tennis Technique | Serve, Forehand, Backhand & Volleys
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In today's video, I analyze Daniil Medvedev's unorthodox tennis technique. I cover his serve, forehand, backhand, slice, and volleys.
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Solution to Medvedev’s Backhand Problem
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Medvedev serve analysis
Problem ? 😂
Pretty doesn't matter, results do. They guy is a winner on many levels and I feel like this should be encouraging to all us amateurs out here. You can win with unorthodox technique when you have solid fundamentals and an understanding of what it takes to win. Great video as always, Nik!
I wish I watched this video years ago, because my technique was very weird, on my forehand, and I kept trying to make adjustments to it but when I tried to make the adjustments I could barely play, and I kept getting worse and worse, and then eventually I realize that I have to go with my technique, it’s not the best but it works well for me. Your videos are very helpful I wish I would’ve watched them years ago though, I could’ve fixed so many mistakes I made before.
This is a major analysis here - not simply the mechanics of how Daniil hits, but an explanatory hypothesis. I’d go further and say he was probably an adolescent who shot up in height very quickly. His hand to eye coordination was already mastered, but the “lankiness” as you say required unusual swing path adjustments.
I appreciate how this video is laid out symmetrically. The base line and fence line is parallel and even.
Great video. I always noticed that Daniil's technique was different from the mainstream. After I watched your review of it, I now in which way. Different and trange does not mean inefficient. Let's not forget Monica Seles' forehand.
If you can explain the Delbonis serve you will be my hero.........
Winning is all that matters. Literally different strokes for different folks! Great video!
As long as you have the basic fundamentals, your style doesn’t matter very much. He beats his opponent with his mind.
On the point explanation Nick! Well done! I have always wondered how he plays the way he does!
I love this type of videos.
I would like to see more analyzing other players!
You were absolutely right about how good Medvedev is :) he looked unstoppable in the finals.
Awesome video Nikola! What do you think about doing a mini-series about it? Rublev's forehand would be my vote. Keep up the great content!
Even tough I'm not trying to copy any pro players' technique, this video was really helpful. I could find my own mistakes especially with the backhand.
Excellent analysis! It would be interesting to see the same in depth analysis to another “weird” technique on tour which is Adrian Mannarino, talking about Frenchmen
You made me a day. You have so many interestening series - Anna, Shamir, your wife, your "own" lessons and analysis of profi players.
... I have just a tip. Can you analyse Petra Kvitova's forehand? There are tons of analysis of topspin. But she has pretty flat forehand. In my opinion it was similar weapon as Serena's service at her day.
She’s one of my favorite players 🙌🙌
Thank you so much! I learn a lot from your videos!
An additional feature of Medvedev’s game is how he locks his eyes on the ball during the stroke, bit like Federer.
I've always wondered why so many players slice to Medvedevs backhand so often. Tsitsipas and Nadal do this constantly in their matches with him. Great spot coach!
Perfect! Thanks coach. Was a mystery to me
Oh, man! I've been coached specifically not to drive my two-handed backhand with my right arm as a right-dominant player.
I've been taught to relax the right arm more and drive with the left so that I can get a hard shot but still get the follow through and top spin on my backhand. It seemed to work but now I am curious to play around a bit.
Interesting to hear this perspective as multiple coaches have told me precisely the opposite!
Yes different styles add so much to the game 👍
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Great video. Agree with all you said. Bravo
Tsitsipas: You're style is unorthodox.
Medvedev: But it's effective.
Yes but he's just a little kid who does not know how to fight.
@@andreyofdoom lol
Can you please make a Video of Kyrgios technique
Thank you for the video Much needed.....
Love From India..
These breakdown are great
I really enjoyed this video Nik. Amazing correlations to other professionals.
Thanks so much!
Super video great content
I really enjoy watching Medvedev play - especially his loop forehand take back that gives him just enough spin to clear the net and get good depth. Years ago I had to stop looping my forehand because the game was so fast that there just wasn't time. But Medvedev makes it work! And, he does not use an extreme forehand grip either! Flat strokes are the best! Viva Medvedev!
In US Open final 2021 Medvedev hit down center and gave nothing for Djokovic to work with. In old days, baseline rallies are mostly cross court or down the line, very rarely I see Lendl or Agassi hit straight down middle. In fact, back in those days we were taught to avoid hitting to down middle. I think this changed when Williams sisters showed up on tour.
Informative and entertaining. Guess Daniel will also benefit if he watches this video :)
Hello from Germany,
I think on Medvedevs forehand is in addition special, that he turns his head sideways and watches/ focusses the ball pretty long (compared to other players). His forehand-technique reminds me of the tennisplayer-simulations from the videogames like Playstation and so on...
Thanks for the analysis; i wasn't too familiar w/ his strokes and watching him occasionally I didn't really see anything weird. I personally miss players like Fabrice Santoro and Martina Hingis who had a lot of touch/crafty games. Santoro despite being much smaller actually got the best out of Marat Safin a couple of times!
The finishing of take back I think it changes the trajectory of the ball when you're talking about hitting forehands. If the racquet finishes over the shoulder, below the elbow or between shoulder and elbow. If the racquet finishes over the shoulder, I would imagine that you have more top spin on the ball just because of natural path of the racquet till it hits the ball.
Awesome video. Make videos like that about other pros?
Brooksby is also unorthodox player but he gets the job done, also i really love watching 2 handed backhand slice (Florian Mayer was lethal).
I was fortunate to see Medvedev closely when he played Tiafoe on 2019 Citi Open. I watched a lot of ATP matches in person, but I never saw a forehand that makes a ball skid through the court. It almost looked like a fast-paced slice with less underspin. Or similar to a hockey slap shot.
And, you wouldn't believe how quick and fast this guy is on the court. Never seen a guy that tall and fast at the same time.
I just watched a video of Swiantek training and she was hitting left handed forehands. I agree Agassi had a great backhand and claimed his right arm dominated but there are literally thousands of players who have great backhands that have the left hand dominating.
Thats the beauty of tennis, its so diverse!!! There no one way form of forehand technique!!!
Can you also do Andy Murray tennis technique analysis? He got good volleys, underrated forehand and serve and for me, it's easier to imitate his forehand preparation technique.
Really good point about Med's backhand. I noticed Djokovic sliced the hell out of Med's BH to neutralize any potential for Med to attack at the US Open Final
He is a legend. He is the moment.
Im glad you dont do the slow mo copyright or not. When you just talk on the court it feels more like a lesson.
Very well analysed Nick. Fully agree with you. People are looking for known orthodox styles but Danil proved that unorthodox style can be better. Let's see how can be at the top.
How long he can be at the top.
Can u make a tutorial on sliding on hard courts for foreword and lateral movements.
Thank you
Fresh news about Tsitsipas for Medvedev. Recently Tsitsipas was interviewed for a Greek sports site and he was asked that since he characterized Medvedev's match play as boring (the journalist said he found that was "decent trash talking"), how he would characterize his own playing style. Since the interview is in Greek with no subs, I will translate it for you. His answer was "creative". Then he was asked why so, and he said that he approaches the net a lot, he wins points by putting away volleys, he makes drop shots, he opens the court a lot, he has a lot of variety in his game style. "I play to win and not to make the other guy lose". 28:08 until 28:55 of the video th-cam.com/video/fhcYUlsbwwU/w-d-xo.html
Medvedev is my favorite player from the Next Gen. He is more comparable in playstyle and technique to Djokovic than his peers. Watching his game against Djokovic in AO 2021 final, however, left me the impression that, at least on that surface, Djokovic is either equal or better than him in almost every aspects (forehand, backhand, serve placement, return of serve, defense, pace, and even stamina). Honestly, as a Nadal fan, I'm in awe for the form that Djokovic has been able to maintain throughout 2021. It's just scary...Anyway I really hope Medvedev can deliver in the upcoming US Open.
He did :)
One thing that Medvedev does better than anyone else is hit amazingly accurate shots when he's pulled out wide and on the run. I think there's something to be said about a long looping backswing vs the modern short backswing.
The modern forehand relies heavily on the legs to create rapid acceleration of the racquet head. But when you're running out wide it's very difficult to plant your feet, thus requiring a modified swing. With a looping motion you can create racquet speed without relying so much on the legs, so it's easier to hit with control when being pulled out wide. Even with Medvedev's backhand, even though it may not be perfect, the power is created in his long smooth swinging motion, not a short backswing with rapid acceleration.
About his forehand, what's also weird is the fact that he has a full western grip which is typically not associated with a flat game style.
Nikola l like your videos ..You do the best
You saw him winning US Open this year
Great insights. How did you miss talking about his backhand's spin? This. is what most pro players mentionend, that he somewhat weirdly slices the double handed backhand.
I should not be surprised, but wow, what a perfect description of medvedev's style. To me, he's the most exciting of the non-big 3 players. He just needs to develop more consistency of effort since he still too often loses matches he should win. What's your analysis of that? What are the foundational reasons that does he does not have the consistent winning of the big 3 (other than there is no one like the big 3 and may never be again)? Technical? Mental? Tactical? What's the Nic-alysis? :-)
Well, finishing around the neck has a more technical explanation according to what I have see from him. His forehand grip is a semi-western but more a western -like grip. When you use that kind of grip if you want to flat the ball and make the ball down to the ground of the baseline fast you need a way to low the ball. Low the ball with a western-like grip? Sounds a hard thing to do because western is for creating high top spin balls. Thats why he finish that way!! Try using a western grip and finish like him and you will see that the ball goes flat and low! For the backhand I dont see any errors. He tries to hit the ball at the left angle so it will take an extreme but controlled angle. His technique make him so elastic and dangerous because he found a very great way of creating angles with 2 hand backhand !
Thanks for the video. I believe Andy Murray has a similar backhand i.e. left hand dominated backhand. What is your take on the comparison of Medvedev’s backhand with Andy’s?
Similar but Andy’s is better
Can you do one of these vids for zverev please
Best strokes in the world?! I agree! - that forehand and that flat ball gives even top pros fits!
Medvedev is the man!
I like to add one thing: Medvedev literally jumps forward on every forehand shot. Even he is in ready location he does not need to move, he is always airborne when hitting the ball. This provides him more momentum transferring to his flat shot and higher possibility to clear the net.
The jump also makes his shot looks unorthodox, because usually, unless the player is about to hit a winner, he will plant feet on ground, but Medvedev launches his body on every forehand shot, which looks unnecessary but actually very useful for him
Can you share examples of players who struggle with power due to hybrid kick/flat serves?
He rarely double faults except for at the US Open with a nasty crowd
Hi NIck, What do think of Carlos Alcaraz Garfia? He is the most exciting new player I've seen since Sinner! Actually, I think he may be better than Sinner. I think he could make top 10 and maybe even #1 in a couple years. He reminds me of Djokovic in his movement and two-handed backhand. What do you think?
He’s my favorite next gen player. I think he can do big things
And that’s how it’s done 🏆
What shoes do you recommend?
I saw him at the Citi open in 2019, I was about 20 feet away. It is incredible how fast he is. It is out of this world.
You are right about watching live and close up to the action on court. I got to watch Rod Laver play at my first pro tournament. I have been fortunate to have watched players like Connors, McEnroe and so many others play live. You just don’t get the same understanding the game on TV or video. If you’re actually behind the baseline you experience the pace,spin, and feel what it would be like if you were playing. These guys are unbelievable athletes and their control of the ball is amazing.
Good analysis of his backhand..btw ,I think and believe an unconventional style of stroke is giving him an edge over his opponent who is mostly used to playing textbook style strokes..I personally get disturbed when I run into players with a "different "style of strokes at club level..I am sure Med has an edge there.
great explanation
He is the moment
What about his second serve Nik ? I don't see any kick / topspin, it's as if he just uses two 1st serves, not sure if this is a good strategy as it tends to break in pressure moments like when he lost Djoko at this years AO and against Nadal in the USO2019.
My view is that at 6.6ft, it is much more difficult to arch the back to be able to top / kick the ball than say at 6.1 ft. What do you think ? Good video by the way. Who's next, have you done the great Djoko yet ?
I’ll talk about it in a future video
Well done. Except I always thought that his backhand is way better than his forehand. Forehand is stable powerful and consistent, but with his backhand... Wow! He seems to be able to put a ball from any point of the court to wherever he wants.
Daniil’s point of contact - could you please talk about this? I observed is that he has an unusually late point of contact - which is what makes his forehand look weird. But also gives him the options to go in any direction easily - enabling those amazing crosscourt passes. Please could you comment?
He’s rarely late on his fh
Medvedev has amazing raquette speed.
Very good analysis Nikola. It’s strange that his backhand is so effective and consistent after seeing your remarks.
Even on clay he beat Djokovic in Monaco maybe it was just pure luck?
No luck
his backhand is world class
Jay not quite as good as his FH
Thanks.
Next is a video on Zverev's serve and why he decelerates and gets a tonne of double faults
I still have to complain. So many youtubers include small clips of other productions in the videos. They cite the origin and they DON'T get copyright striked. You won't be the first youtuber who is not allowed to do that. Basically half of youtube lives from that, look at all the reaction videos.
Great analysis of Daniil’s strokes but I don’t think he’ll change anything at all now he’s won the US Open. Sadly reducing the speed of the courts over the last 20 years (Wimbledon grass and no carpet) will not help his quest for titles. Maybe hitting more flat is his counter to this? It is great that all the players approach the game differently and Daniil’s game might appeal to the more unorthodox players. I can see him winning many more grand slams.
He places the ball in the court and that is the goal. Yes, his technique is ugly and funny. That is the game, everyone can play it. It is important that it is according to the rules and that it is in the domain of fair play. Anyway, I wouldn't copy it. Nikola good analysis.
I feel like another part of medvedevs forehand that makes it weird is the way he uses his upper body. I don't know why he does this, but especially on low balls, he almost uses his back to bring the ball over the net.
What I’ve learned is, it doesn’t matter how your technique looks, all that matters is if it works.
Lol dont hate the player...hate the game
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Safin has the left hand dominant backhand, not sure about his clay game
Tsitsipas has beef with Medvedev because he is a small boy who doesn't know how to fight.
I love watching Tsitsipas play, but he exhibits the characteristics of a spoilt child! A slightly less abrasive version of kyrgios…
He's the MEP of ATP
actually you look live medvedev coach
Maybe he hits the ball very flat also because , starting the loop from very high above his head, he is "forced" not to hit the ball from below (generating more topspin), because he has no time to do this
I am shocked that you think Medvedev's forehand wing is stronger than his backhand wing. Now I am not a professional coach and don't know the technical aspects of his strokes too well, but I can clearly see that Medvedev's BH is stronger relatively speaking compared to his forehand. It's much more consistent, he can hit it in any diretion comfortably, and IMO is one of the best two-handed BH in the world, probably only slightly worse than the Zverev and Djokovic BH. His FH on the other side actually is not even in the top 10 forehands on tour IMO. It gets the job done, but it seems to be prone to errors and is significantly less reliable than his BH, which is why you'll see him run around his FH to hit a BH occasionally.
Interesting that Medvedev's backhand is weaker and technically deficient because he usually runs around to hit his backhand rather than his forehand when under pressure.
Do you notice a pattern: Male pros who developed a wta forehand tend to succeed and do well in the male pro ranks ? I think it's becuase if a male pro is able to master the wta forehand, he can reap much power out of a wta forehand than if he were to have an atp forehand and this added power can work to his advantage, just like it did for daniil, del Porto, and Jim courier. I mean isn't fair to say thst almost all men have atp forehand but only a percentage of them make it while there's not many guys who have wta forehand but all of them have become successful.
His right arm grip on BH is also incorrect!
Revés de control y direcciones de medvedev
Who is here after Daniel’s maiden grand slam ?
Medvedev's backhand is his weak side? Djokovic disagrees: th-cam.com/video/ntaM2gjGP1o/w-d-xo.html
Nick, can you take a few seconds and see if my serve is flat enough?
Why Nick 😭😭
Apparently Medvedev did beat Djokovic …. In straight sets !! It was Medvedev’s serves that did in Djokovic. Med is now ranked #2 !
Is it me or does this guy sounds like Medvedev himself
Medvedev is from France?
I also found it strange...)))) Maybe he meant that he moved from Moscow to South of France when he was 17 and his coach is French.
HIS STROKES ARE UNCONVENTIONAL AND DIFFICULT TO READ WHERE HE INTENDS TO SEND THE BALL...HENCE HIS SUCCESS ON TOUR
Medvedev is like a human backboard.
Why we want to learn his technique which only applies for him….