Why Grand Prix is (and isn't) the best racing film ever
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2020
- The film Grand Prix was released in 1966 and captured an era of motor racing loved dearly by fanatics around the world. The footage of the racing should be enough for it to be considered the greatest racing film ever. Is it, though?
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I hope "Rush" is next.
This knocks the spots off Rush! Rush had the storyline but the actual racing was a bit off for the proper fans. Easy to spot where they'd used a different circuit to represent an old one but they didn't always get the topography right. Cars were spot-on though as were the cast.
Grand Prix though is just a motorsport fan's dream with unlimited cameos, proper racing footage, brilliant cars and a proper sense of theatre. Can't wait for Josh's take on it.
@@neildaniel8232 I disagree, rush was brilliant.
Rush is my favourite racing movie _and_ my favourite band.
80 percent is true"
@@thomashanson6603 rush was shite
All praise Lord Mahaveer for allowing us to experience this joyous expectation
lets get the shirts out!
@@gordonritchie9341 GOOD IDEA GET THE #LORDMAHAVEER SHIRTS
ALL HAIL
#LORDMAHAVEER
The best ever Racing Movie, which, interesting fact, had Phil Hill, Giuseppe Farina, Graham Hill, Juan Manuel Fangio, Jack Brabham, Jochen Rindt, Jim Clark, Dan Gurney, Bruce McLaren, Jo Siffert, Joakim Bonnier and Ludovico Scarfiotti all in the film (Farina was Yves Montand’s stunt double before his death in 1966) and there was a character inspired by Soichiro Honda (founder of Honda Motors)
You actually hear the voice of the late great Bruce McLaren as well.
TheShockninja really?
Yep. There’s a scene where the drivers are meeting ahead of the Belgian Grand Prix with a number of drivers including McLaren, Phil & Graham Hill, Rindt, Ginther, among others.
great movie
Congrats on being first I guess
9:55 that rag doll is the funniest shit I’ve seen
Hahahaha, totally true! I remember laughing the 2nd time I watched that scene (the first time I was deep into the movie), because it's freaking 1966 and they couldn't do anything else XD.
What a Masterpiece of a movie mate, no matter what anyone says, I still don't know how they managed to do the other crashes...
OMFG I didn't see it at first, but it's the star of the movie...
The scott accident there was a rag doll too, no?
@@TiagoWakabayashi1 Maybe on the Scott crash they were real drivers but crashing not so fast and in a controlled way, because I can't think of how they did to get the cars running at that speed if it was with rag dolls...
"Yeah, it looks realistic".....Nope........
3:27 were just gonna ignore the fact that they got Fangio in this movie, also known as the 2nd best driver just behind #LordMahaveer
3:27 Is that Mr. Fangio himself hanging with everyone?
Yes it is. Good catch, shame our reviewer missed him.
Yes yes it is
I think Grand Prix was extreme ahead of its time. The racing footage is extremely better then driven.
One “error” (if you want to call it that): the banking at Monza hadn’t been used in F1 since 1961.
interesting fakt. thanks.
But it makes the movie more fun
yeah but it looks fucking awesome
@@sharcc2511 No argument there.
@@sharcc2511 it’d be so cool for the banking to be used in IMSA or GT3, It would make it a lot more interesting for Monza.
The ending where James Garner's standing on the grid, wondering if he should come back to racing always gives me goosebumps.
At a deserted Monza. Absolute chills.
Still have this movie in my HDD, Frankenheimer was one helluva cool guy. Once Enzo denied him the access to the factory, but when Frank showed Enzo some bits of the unfinished movie, Enzo allowed him to use everything he needed for the movie (the factory, staff, etc)
I distinctly remember watching this in surround sound on a huge screen. The opening scene with the roar of the engines all around you and the feeling that you were on the grid as the race started and cars roared past was unforgettable. Great camera work, weak script but 10 out of 10 for action. The use of split screen was revolutionary. I also fell in love with Francois Hardy.
So if we got this could we get a review of Le Mans? That movie just sounded fantastic and is why I love old cars.
LeMans was ok. It was Steve McQueen ego racing movie
It's basically just a showcase of cars. There's very little actual story. But if you want a glorious showcase of what the 24 Hours of Le Mans was like back in 1970, then it does that in spades.
Please no, its a brilliant film, yes thin on story. But dissecting the closest thing we will ever have to perfection is cruel.
@@therealfanmaster7097 There's plenty enough story, but it;s like Mad Max Fury road, it;s all Show don't tell. THe story is played out visually, in how drivers react to each other and very subtle looks. I really like that about it.
@@jamesbermant Steve McQueen didn't talk to his neighbor James Garner for years after failing the screen test for Grand Prix. He really wanted the role of Aron. LeMans is sort of his own try at making a racing film.
I saw it in it's Detroit premier in '66, right around christmas as I remember. It was pretty engrossing on the big screen.
Stoddart recuperating in a Vanwall???? That there is a Lotus 16 old boy!
Whether you loved this movie or hated it, we can all agree that the _real_ star of Grand Prix is...
...Graham Hill.
i would say it is Rindt but nvm
@@romedfugenschuh4892 no...
Mustache Hill always wins in style...
@@MiguelMedV nvm, like i said
@@romedfugenschuh4892 Yeah, don't worry, I was just kidding ^^`...
Considering the era, it was freaking amazing and still is. Just the audio of the racing was magic with no expenses spared
I was 10yrs old, in So. California, when "Grand Prix" came out.
I've been a hard core F-1 fan ever since.
👍😎🏁
"Just HD" Dude... this movie was shot on 70mm Super Panavision!
Legend has it that, they had to use ALL THE EXISTING panavision cameras of the date.
9:50 nevermind the silly ragdoll, that shot of the pipe going straight down into that other car is amazing!
4:21 This running gag will never die, will it?
It's was a quick snip but it was there!! Brilliant
I hope it doesn’t
Would love to hear your thoughts on Rush (2013), 1: Life on the Limit (2013) and Ford v Ferrari/Le Mans '66 (2019)
rush was just shit they shoulda done prost v senna and not had that ron howard tard directing
Timmy! Have you got any actual criticism of the film, or is your only justification that ron Howard is a tard?
@@SteamedhamsEdnalovescock I firmly disagree with you. Rush was probably the highlight of Howard's career.
The critical reception was vastly positive, with the film holding an 88% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and having watched the film, it's not hard to see why. The film is fairly accurate (even Niki Lauda himself said it was very accurate), yet manages to entertain and amaze. And, unlike the 2010 film Senna, Rush doesn't make either driver look like a total ass, whereas in Senna, poor Alain Prost is made to look like the biggest monster in F1 since the inception of the sport. Rush portrayed both drivers very well, without having to resort to turning either driver into a villain.
@@tetragon2137 agreed
rush was more like two personalities tied in racing.
of course nothing compare to this movie with actual footage of racing drivers cars and all the bits of grand prix weekend.
@@tetragon2137 Accurate?!!?? They had Lauda and Hunt as mortal enemies until well into the film when they actually were on good terms from the moment they first met! Niki wasn't daft, he knew how to play the game and what would "sell" which is why he didn't call this out. "Rush" is an awful, atrocious, epically bad file (& I say that as a massive fan of Apollo 13 & Ron Howard) - the racing shots look pathetically slow and staged (apart from Lauda's accident) and some of the acting is more wooden than a matchstick model of the wooden horse of Troy! If "Senna" didn't exist then this would be the 2nd worst racing movie of all time (behind, obviously, "Driven").
That has to be one of the rawrest experience you can see in F1 in the old days besides watching it live.
The flips, the deaths, the breakages, all, were what made the 60s treacherous to drive in but yet, exhilarating to be in.
I too thought it was a Vanwall as a teen when I first saw the movie on the big screen. Blew my mind. Alas I realized decades later that ir is a Lotus 16. Think I will watch the DVD tonight....memories...aahhh...
Saw it when it first hit the theater's in Melbourne...sat their with my Dad, an ex motor cycle racer, spellbound. The onboards were brilliant, leaning into all the corners...
3:26 Josh just glossing over an appearance by Fangio...
Yes, probably does not recognize him
I initially didn’t recognise him but then I say him and I was like, FANGIOO
Yeaah!! I went scrolling though the comments to see if someone else spotted him, gopd job 😄
His wife was afraid he’d die. His accident made her realise that he’d never stop until he was dead. She doesn’t love Aaron so sleeping with him means nothing to her.
yeah, she got back together with him bc she actually loved him and needed a bit of a jolt to get what it meant
Chris Amon: the greatest driver never to win a world championship GP, yet his helmet was world champion...
yep , he really should have been there
Paul McKinstry What do you mean?
moss
That title was Sir Sterling Moss' 3 time runner up and raced in many different series every year.
@@tombrewsaugh1399 For sure, Moss is the best never to have won a world championship. However, his 16 grand prix victories sure disqualify him from the title of "greatest driver never to win a world championship GP"...
9:55 ...
_oof_
That was brutal. A gruesome reminder of an unfortunately frequent occurence in motorsports in the 60s. When they had a crash back then, they would consider themselves lucky to come out with a couple broken bones. No seatbelts, either; they'd rather fly off their car and meet quick death by smashing into a tree or a fence than remain strapped to a burning wreck.
“Go watch Le Mans”
Yes.
Good movie
"then go watch Lemans " cracked me up lol, I had no idea they were mimicking Drivers like Surtees. Enjoyed your video.
The title sequence, which is amazing, is by the renowned graphic designer Saul Bass. Although he had made many title sequences before, mostly for Hitchcock films he had no real experience of shooting live footage. Frankenheimer asked Bass to shoot footage for the titles and just left him to it. Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately he use up nearly all the very expensive film stock in a few days. This required some refinancing of the movie. Worth every penny. It’s also worth noting that Gordon Daniel won an Oscar for his brilliant sound design.
Arguably the greatest racing film ever, the shots of the cars and the wonderful music track just create real cinema magic. As you say in your video a 'real time capsule of motor racing in the 60s', and with Graham Hill and all the other cameos it's just packed with wonder. Also nice review of it thank you, really like your humour.
I love how everyone in old movies used to smoke.
Also, at 4:12, I thought the mechanic in the background was naked.
Also also, actually actually, I fukcing hate love triangles, no matter the genre.
The fact you didn't highlighted Juan Manuel Fangio at 3:26 is absurd.
3:51 - no reference to Adam and the Ants??!?
*Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Subtle innuendos follow, must be something inside!*
Correction: He doesn't get into a Vanwall, it's a Lotus 16. :-)
Love the video
Thanks for pointing that out. I saw the move in a theater in '67 and for over 50 years I thought that it was a Vanwall.
Thanks, saved me some typing! :-)
rather oddly colin chapman was persisting with front moutned engines for his first F1 car when copper had already shown that rear engined was the way to go.
I saw this movie in the original 3-screen Cinerama version in early 1967. An amazing experience at the time.
Kind of weird that John Surtees is photographed quite a bit while he was still driving for Ferrari but gets no credits in the film. Contractual difficulties?
I also saw it in 1967 in a Cinerama theatre.
I've love racing ever since.
Cool video ! The story of the French F1 GP is quite interesting but complex, the French diffusor of F1 Canal + made a documentary about that. The Clermont-Ferrand circuit was dropped is because to its location in the middle of nowhere and its dangerousness due to the presence of little rock on the road that were flying into the drivers' helmets, that's how Helmut Marko lost his eye
2:48 yooooooooo his wife is malory archer🤯
Yup. Jessica Walter was a fox...
Are we gonna ignore the fact that Josh totally ignore that Juan Manuel Fangio appeared on 3:27
Steve McQueen’s Le Mans is the greatest racing movie of all time.
This is pretty good its well worth a watch . I found Le man's lost a direct story line
Not a patch on Grand Prix.
I don't regret waiting for this video. Great work mate👏🏽👏🏽
I remember about sarti celebrating his victory and then there is a cameo of Graham hill and it was amazing!
The film was directed by John Frankenheimer. He also made "Ronin" (1998), which features some of the best car chase scenes I've ever watched. The man filmed cars going fast better than anyone.
I saw this when I was seven years old at a real Cinérama screen in Denver. I was in awe. Still love it.
Great movie overall - well done plot - racing scenes were cutting edge for their day. It did drag on from time to time. Main characters were well defined.
3:27 Fangio, wtf, this movie had Fangio? Imma watch it.
I see a notification and always get disappointed that if it is a premier.
Though if it gets more views or something im happy with it, don't want to be a manus.
Manus as g
What’s wrong with it being a premier?
@@Formula1st I can only speak for myself, but when I get a notification it's usually "oh hey, a new video that I can watch now", with premiers you get a notification but can't watch the video immediately, it can even happen that the premier will be at an inconvenient time for you. So instead of a reminder of an upload you get an "invitation" to an event you can't take part in.
I remember seeing this on Encore here in the states when I was 15. The soap opera stuff was worth watching to get to the racing scenes. Seeing the old Monza with the banking was mindblowing!
I first see Grand Prix in one of the big West End Cinemas in 1966,Never was a motor racing buff but see this with 3 mates that were,All I can say is this film has impressed me since the day I first see it.One if not the Best Motor Racing Pictures.
Actually, Steve McQueen was Frankenheimer's first choice to be Pete Aron but the combination of getting into an argument of the Grand Prix's producer and he was doing Sand Pebbles, the role when to James Garner. This film is probably the reason Le Mans happened because McQueen wanted to do a racing movie.
9:00 I love random references that I actually understand
This channel has become my favourite in terms of covering all things formula 1
I've watched l the vids about 3 times each
I saw this movie when I was ten years-old fifty-five years ago. I not only like it out of sentimentality, I admire Grand Prix (1966) because it _is_ a great movie. Now I'm trying to find a definitive documentary on the making of the film.
Saw the premiere in Hollywood at the Cinerama Dome on Sunset Blvd when I was 9. Changed my life right then and there and the passion for cars and racing never left. Both my parents worked on the film in post production so I've got some arguable DNA associated with the film. Begged my folks to take me to various theaters close to 50 times as it worked its way down the food chain until it came to TV.
The fact the Ferrari opened his factory to the production after viewing a 30 minute sample of the Monaco sequence Frankenheimer sent him says more than anything else we could add.
This racing film is the GOAT...
I recorded this off of Speed (or whatever it was at that time) many, many years ago. It is an amazing film, and beautifully done.
I wish more movies could be made like this one!
My dad was in the crowd for the Brands Hatch scene, filmed at the actual British gp.
Technically amazing for 1966. Blew me away when I was a kid.
Technically amazing period. LeMans is a very close second.
I saw this movie for the first time back when Arrested Development was on its first run, and it was a shock to find a young Lucille Bluth (Jessica Walter) as the female lead. I didn't particularly like the story or the acting, but it's worth a look because of the cinematography, which was very cutting edge for its time. Also the cameos, of course.
Grand Prix is one of my all time favorites!
This film oozes passion the camera work the boxes on screen the roar of the engines! Real racing drivers in it. Best ever no doubt
I did "this" almost everyday back the ´98 up until 2010 in Grand Prix Legends F1 simulator.
Check out the 2020 demo if you haven't already - still pretty good. Recently I got back into it and found out the default diff settings are probably exactly opposite of the nearest you can get to the "cam and pawl" diff used at the time (the game simulates a more complicated "salisbury" diff for some reason). Reverse the numbers, max out the clutches, change the brake bias forwards and enjoy!
This is amazing. Keep up the good work.
"Nothing much happens" I mean, other than the infamous rainshower that caused half the field to crash at Masta, including Jackie Stewart (which led to his safety crusade), and a first person POV shot of Phill Hill in the GT40 camera car hauling ass through the carnage and passing Dan Gurney. It's pretty nuts that all of that was captured on film and ended up in the movie.
Racing sequences in this movie are a masterpiece on their own👌
This is one of my all time favorite racing movies. I originally saw it in the super-wide screen at Reno's (at that time) premier movie theater, the Century 21 complex, before they split the dome into two theaters.
Saw this when I was 9 or 10 years old. Made me an F1 fan to this day !! Loved the car’s & racing scenes!!!
Love watching your videos keep up the great work :) oh question
Are you going to do a video on spingate 2008?
The films totally wild, how can absolutely no one just keep a healthy marriage? Must have been the petrol fumes
But I love how stylish it is. The split screen shots, the fade out cuts, the scenes with no dialogue and just racing.
And the footage of the cars and the circuits is incredible.
I like to think that Graham Hill didny actually know he was in the film, he just kind of turned up to sing, drink ale and go fast and someone caught it on camera
As an F1 fan I loved this movie. If for nothing else, then for the cameos of the real drivers it was worth it.
By the way, did you know that they used F2 cars for filming? Whenever you see the actors drive a car it's an F2 car (mostly Lolas if I remember correctly) converted to look like its F1 counterpart.
7:12 That's a Lotus 16, not a Vanwall.
Ok, I love the movie, but I also love this and all convinced I need to see you make videos for the following movies:
Le Mans
Stroker Ace
Days of Thunder
Thunderbolt
Talladega Nights
Rush
Ford v Ferrari
3:53
Subtle innuendos follow
Must be something inside...
So sad he didn't make this reference
Mifune actually could never speak English. He got by when he had to by just copying the sounds of the English words as best he could, which obviously the producers found to be lacking.
That's how Sammo did his lines for that short lived American cop show he starred in.
Didn't understand half of it. He just repeated the sounds he was told
9:40 when it’s 2am and your home alone, the black screen on the vid and then you her loud banging. That scared the shit out of me
B Fortune
I saw this film when it first came out, I was in High School. I love it then and I still love it. Thanks
Its a great racing movie. Has aged really well. The drivers meeting could be one set today in heaven where they discuss the arrival of Murray Walker.
Footage in this movie of old drivers and cars alone makes me love it
My favorite cartoon as a kid was Speed Racer, and it was because of the engine soundtrack. Music to my ears.
Good Lord, last time I checked your channel, you had barely over 50k subs, now you're at 76k! Damn amazing man!
Also, I've never even seen this movie....this might very much change now.
Very good video, only one wee thing, you mentioned Toshiro Mifune could speak english, he actually couldn’t but memorised his lines phonetically. So i imagine that it probably helped the actors on set but just didn’t sound quite right so they had to overdub, apparently his memorising of mexican/spanish was very impressive though. Anyway keep up the good work!
They showed it at the Empire cinema in Morecambe on it's release. At seven years old I nagged my Grandfather to take me to see it. Over fifty years later I still love Formula One and it's all down to this film.
My favorite sports movie, period. The musical score and montages mesh well with the racing action.
You should do a video like this on LEMANS!!! Such a good vid love your stuff
Only big complaint is that at Monza they did the damn "pushing the gas pedal down makes you go faster" cliche that every racing movie does.
It does look amazing in HD because it was filmed on very high-resolution 65mm film with Super Panavision 70 lenses. The HD of its day!
I had to buy the DVD for this years ago. yes the story line is whatever, but the real star of this movie is how close the cameras were able to film. Its like the netflix coverage of modern F1. Cameras in and around the team garage and showing the real races. They were always going to make some romance story, but the footage in High Def is awesome.
The first video I watched from you was from the same video format about Driven!
I've stopped counting how many times i've watched this movie and LeMans. I have both on DVD. Saw them when they were first released at my local cinema.
Love this film. I remember a few years back jacques villeneuve did a bit of a tribute to it, driving a classic f1 car with the same distinctive onboard side shot that have you a stiffy.
The crazy thing i learned about this movie is every crash besides the Monaco hill crash at the start and the Monza crash is all based off what happened in the Grand Prixs
6:51 That's not just some odd crash, that's Jo Bonnier's car stopped after he crashed and went flying from it, through the upstairs window of the house on the right of the frame.
Not true. He spun at Burnenville and the straw bales did just enough to stop the car, he got out unhurt. Maybe you're thinking of Jackie Stewart's crash at the Masta Kink where he demolished a woodcutters hut and ended up almost in the basement of a farmhouse.
I say we coat the entire Circuit Paul Ricard in that PJ1 compound Nascar is using on ovals and see what happens.
Again, excellent video as usual, I knew this film existed but didn't realize the extent at which they went for race footage!
Nice film, nice video. But the clip at 7.15 Stoddard isn't getting into a Vanwall, it's a Lotus 16.
This movie is fucking amazing, but I always got restless when the drama scenes dragged too much, but people should understand that cinema was very different in the 60s and appreciate the brilliant racing scenes.
Excellent movie. When social distancing started I sat down and watched Rush, Le Mans, Grand Prix and Driven (lol)
Grand Prix is an awesome movie, besides the dubbed speaking parts over the racing... And the ending! It felt like that the ending camera shot was straight out of the sound of music. The intro montage is probably my favourite car related movie introduction. It's so well shot, and the sound is awesome.
Josh Revell Racing Movie Reviews. Would love to see the Days of Thunder review xD
4:05 the quagmire reference is just on the right point, HECK YEAH, HAHAHAHA!
I’ve only ever seen ‘Rush’ and ‘Ford v Ferrari (aka. Le Mans ‘66)’ but my god I need to find these online to watch
3:27 The GOAT
9:27 I did not see the invisible man reference