I need to clarify a mistake I made: I wrote in the video that Nero's lines doesn't change while he is on low health - but I tested it today, and he and nico says something different in mission 7: low health version: Nero: "I need you to get over here" Nico: "You in a twist? Wow, did hell just freeze over?" - while if you're healthy, the dialogue is more casual, Nero asking: "are you bored?" -also tested the missing voice line dialogue in japanese, it was still missing
Vergil saying "I still have much to do" is probably tied in to the "I won't lose next time" line from mission 20. He obviously intends to come back, get more power, and beat up Nero like any good father would
Vergil getting salty at Nero for taunting him and then immediately busting out judgement cut end was some of the best shit I’ve seen from this game. Thank you for that
@@LadyAsmodeus I’ll have to watch some more of your content! Thank you for all the effort you put it, it’s kind of staggering the quality of this video
“I let them hit me, that’s when I observed the Empusa’s strange behavior” Ngl a nature documentary of Nero/Dante messing with demon wildlife would be nice to watch
yeah thats what I've been thinking about, like what are they even talking about? in previous games like dmc 3, there was an option to buy green orbs and use them, so maybe something similar was planned in dmc 5, but they scrapped it after the voice lines were added ?
I remember when Ninja Theory tried to justify not having a taunt feature was because it wouldn’t fit the tone of having a serious fight with Vergil and taunting him thus, breaking immersion. It seemed to be implemented here perfectly.
@@65firered That's not even the correct solution, the correct thing to do would have been to have Dantes taunts be context sensetive and just use the plentiful amount of both used (because he taunts enemies on his own in the story anyway) and unused voice lines and animations they had. Like the work was basically already done, I think they just didn't think the idea through.
The Empusa lore-accurate behavior reminded me of how Blitzes will often target other enemies in the room in DMC4, since they're blind lore-wise and rely mostly on other senses to find their target, which leads to them mistakenly attacking other demons.
7:23 as far as I remember, he shares a line with Urizen too, if you defeat Urizen as nero he says "Is this my limit?", when you die as Vergil in DMC4, he says the same thing
I absolutely love small details like these, especially with the V - Nico dialogues, makes me wish there were more slight differences that took your current characters state into account
@@LadyAsmodeusThe state pays in your name and it accrues as a debt against you, shows up in your credit report and everything. The Child Support system is kinda scary.
Awesome!! I had searched on TH-cam before and never found anybody who had found that rare dialogue so it's cool that I could help share it with everyone
Honestly, these are really cool details that DEFINITELY aren't noticed in like 99% of playthroughs. Since the whole appeal of DMC is mainly that, it's not a challenge to win most of the time, it's a challenge to look cool while doing it. Unless you're extremely new, most players will hardly ever struggle on the first 2-3 difficulties.
Funnily enough, I actually got the M4 low health dialogue my first time playing DMD, because I messed up really badly the fight before. It's really neat how they added different dialogue even though most people will never see it.
That reminds me, there's a funny little detail that can happen with Vergil. At least during Nero's fight. Vergil's doppleganger will also react to being taunted, but it has no dialogue. Just the same animation as the real Vergil.
I'm not a fan of the idea that his new and only goal is to beat dante - the only reason he wants to do it is to overcome some internal struggles he still has, and nothing more serious - and there is so much we dont know about what happened to him off-screen, so during that time he could've discovered other things he wants to accomplish~
@@LadyAsmodeusTo play Devils Advocate, I would like to pose the idea that Vergil found out about Dante beating Mundus; the one who ordered the murder of the Sparda family. From what I remember of the lore, wasn't it at least a part of the reason why Vergil wanted power so much; to take revenge? Knowing that Dante got to it first, he may want to beat Dante to at least see how he compared after all of the stunts he pulled.
I believe Empusa despawn only on Easy, as a way to prevent the player getting killed. I've never seen them doing this on DMD, you should check that out too. Great work so far, I'm sure DMC5 Devs are proud!
aw :3 - I was playing on normal, to get through the level as fast as possible - I dont think the reason why they despawn is to give the player an easier time tho ~
They don't just do it on easy. I most commonly play on Devil Hunter and Son of Sparda and if you just ignore Empusas full of blood sometimes they'll do their lil dip out animation.
I just wanted to say that the reason why V has different dialogue at low health is due to a cut healing mechanic. Basically early on it was going to have soda that did different things like give DT and health like what the stars did in previous DMC games. In one of the stage clear photos you can actually see V drinking the cut soda and at the area with the billboard screens with Nero you can see the soda being advertised but it is hard to see.
I believe there's an extra Nero calling Nico interaction. During Mission 3 before the Artemis fight. If you die at least a couple of times, and call Nico each time. The dialogue will be different. I've only ever gotten it once myself and had to do a double take. But I absolutely know it's real when I saw my friend play and died to Artemis a few times.
@@LadyAsmodeus Same thing similar happens when you fight Malphas. I know that one for a super fact. When I saw said friend die to her dozens of times. LOL.
I remember getting that one rare line from the because I am absolutely terrible at playing him. I also find the Lofi devil trigger theme oddly enjoyable.
Regarding the Empusa behavior, it looks to me like the AI switches to the Red Empusa version after they drink up, which includes evading the player to despawn
@LadyAsmodeus yes, I got the line about no rest for the wicked on my first playthrough, and I experienced that voice line that had no sound while replaying some of the sections that I did bad on. I had assumed the no rest for the wicked was normal and that I just didn't hear the one with no sound (because I was in a chat with others)
if they give Vergil a SOLO game, then I think Dante will be overshadowed :D Every time Vergil appears on the screen, everyone just dies inside from excitement. Its like going to see your favorite band, but now you go and play your favorite character :D @@LadyAsmodeus
@@edwaaard46 yeah everyone would love that, altho if Vergil gets to be a main playable character, then he is going to need to have new weapons, since him having Beowulf is not story accurate ( he lost it in dmc 3 )
Thats the cool thing.. Seeing vergil grow as a character, and gameplay wise. But let's be honest, he is pretty good in DMC5 already. But I think they could have added a bit more to Vergil in 5. I still prefer Vergil over Dante gameplay, but Dante has a bit more depth compared to Vergil. Even a little bit too much depth in my opinion :D. One weapon less for Dante would not be a thing we would all miss. .@@LadyAsmodeus
Awesome video. Didn't know that people still discover new things in DMCV I also want to know what the name of music playing during Nero Vs Vergil segment?
The empusa thing made me realize why behemoth’s kill other demons, it’s cuz they’re blind Now I’m wondering, since hell antoneras are also seemingly covering their eyes, how do they see the player? 🤔
But i didn’t know at all about the nico voice lines and i’m really surprised. This is almost impossible for players to be low on health at the bosses with V.
I need to clarify a mistake I made: I wrote in the video that Nero's lines doesn't change while he is on low health - but I tested it today, and he and nico says something different in mission 7: low health version: Nero: "I need you to get over here" Nico: "You in a twist? Wow, did hell just freeze over?" - while if you're healthy, the dialogue is more casual, Nero asking: "are you bored?"
-also tested the missing voice line dialogue in japanese, it was still missing
it's crazy that it's also missing in japanese
@@NecroChnot very, capcom likes using english actors
@@velvetbutterflyyes, I actually think the English version sounds way better than Jap
Vergil saying "I still have much to do" is probably tied in to the "I won't lose next time" line from mission 20. He obviously intends to come back, get more power, and beat up Nero like any good father would
yeah there are so many teasers....
Next time he’s getting a belt
I need a mod where Yamato is replaced with a very prestine leather belt.
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 for fuck's sake :"D
Nah, he's getting la chancla. XD@@RandomPerson-xi7jv
"thank you for that...now i shall give you death in return"
*proceeds to use judgement cut*
bro wasnt gonna let that slide
perfect timing moment
Yep. That's Virgil alright.
Vergil REALLY was gonna give him death with that one
I love the giggle of Vergil when saying "Thank you for that..."
with the kind of reckless driving, nico is a straight up menace and a danger to all underworld creatures
Vergil: thank you for that... now I shall give you death in return
Also vergil: *uses JCE*
Bro had to whip out 'ole reliable real quick
Bro I lost my shit when I saw that, funniest shit
Vergil getting salty at Nero for taunting him and then immediately busting out judgement cut end was some of the best shit I’ve seen from this game. Thank you for that
....now I shall give you de.... I mean thank you :3 you haven't even seen half of the cool stuff in this game
@@LadyAsmodeus I’ll have to watch some more of your content! Thank you for all the effort you put it, it’s kind of staggering the quality of this video
@@takeshikovacks6708 aaaw :3
@@LadyAsmodeus If you do it as Vergil against Dante he even gets salty lol
“I let them hit me, that’s when I observed the Empusa’s strange behavior”
Ngl a nature documentary of Nero/Dante messing with demon wildlife would be nice to watch
ye, you can notice a lot of things if you dont actually fight back - narrated by david attenborough
It would show the more intellectual side of them both, which isn't shown often
new fic idea obtained thank you
national geographic parady of this would be funny ng;l
I like how they made those alt cutscenes for low hp, but Nico doesn't actually have a way to heal you lol.
Buying gold orb can refill your HP if I rmb correctly
yeah thats what I've been thinking about, like what are they even talking about? in previous games like dmc 3, there was an option to buy green orbs and use them, so maybe something similar was planned in dmc 5, but they scrapped it after the voice lines were added ?
@@pekostudio Sure, but she has a limited stock of them and you can only use them when you're dying.
@@ChannelMiner well that's true..
Buying blue orbs heals you too full if i remember correctly
I remember when Ninja Theory tried to justify not having a taunt feature was because it wouldn’t fit the tone of having a serious fight with Vergil and taunting him thus, breaking immersion. It seemed to be implemented here perfectly.
That actually makes sense with that version of Vergil. He's already way harder to take seriously than the original one.
Couldn't they just disable it in the fight? Oh wait that could mean they have to actually put it in and that's clearly too much work.
@@65firered That's not even the correct solution, the correct thing to do would have been to have Dantes taunts be context sensetive and just use the plentiful amount of both used (because he taunts enemies on his own in the story anyway) and unused voice lines and animations they had. Like the work was basically already done, I think they just didn't think the idea through.
@@nmr7203 My suggestion is more directed toward what they claimed not what they should do.
The Empusa lore-accurate behavior reminded me of how Blitzes will often target other enemies in the room in DMC4, since they're blind lore-wise and rely mostly on other senses to find their target, which leads to them mistakenly attacking other demons.
hm, I didnt know that~
Not to mention, the Angelos will also attack any non-Order of the Sword enemies, which makes perfect lore sense, given what they were created for.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 hm I never noticed they would attack each other in dmc4~
IIRC every 'faction' of enemy in DMC4 would fight each other
7:23 as far as I remember, he shares a line with Urizen too, if you defeat Urizen as nero he says "Is this my limit?", when you die as Vergil in DMC4, he says the same thing
true, urizen also shares many lines~
I absolutely love small details like these, especially with the V - Nico dialogues, makes me wish there were more slight differences that took your current characters state into account
MOON?!
3:18 bro was finna cry what 😭
"Nico, kids are drinking beer I need you to come pick me up"
Sounded like he was calling Nico up to make Nero a little sibling.
@Theunholyborn bruh
@feyefall4855 lmaoooo
@@Theunholyborn Bruh
Vergil still has much to do since he needs to supply for a good twenty years of eluded child support.
he is not a child anymore tho :"D
I think you still must pay it if you never paid when the child was a minor.
The debt ends when you pay, not when they become an adult.
@@LadyAsmodeusThe state pays in your name and it accrues as a debt against you, shows up in your credit report and everything. The Child Support system is kinda scary.
@@KiraSlith really - poor vergil
I’ve been playing this game for like a year and a half and am still learning new things about it. So much detail in this game I love it
same, I learned a lot recently :3
Awesome!! I had searched on TH-cam before and never found anybody who had found that rare dialogue so it's cool that I could help share it with everyone
thank you for that :3
"Thank you for that...now i shall give you death in return"
*instantly pops judgement cut end*
yeah, good timing :D
Honestly, these are really cool details that DEFINITELY aren't noticed in like 99% of playthroughs.
Since the whole appeal of DMC is mainly that, it's not a challenge to win most of the time, it's a challenge to look cool while doing it. Unless you're extremely new, most players will hardly ever struggle on the first 2-3 difficulties.
Funnily enough, I actually got the M4 low health dialogue my first time playing DMD, because I messed up really badly the fight before. It's really neat how they added different dialogue even though most people will never see it.
That reminds me, there's a funny little detail that can happen with Vergil. At least during Nero's fight. Vergil's doppleganger will also react to being taunted, but it has no dialogue. Just the same animation as the real Vergil.
Vergil, being a meathead as usual.
Nico is a ninja van and that van can travel everywhere she wanted to
i got the same "death in return" line, i had no clue, thought i was tripping at first lmao
Of course Vergil has much to do! He has to beat Dante!
I'm not a fan of the idea that his new and only goal is to beat dante - the only reason he wants to do it is to overcome some internal struggles he still has, and nothing more serious - and there is so much we dont know about what happened to him off-screen, so during that time he could've discovered other things he wants to accomplish~
@@LadyAsmodeusTo play Devils Advocate, I would like to pose the idea that Vergil found out about Dante beating Mundus; the one who ordered the murder of the Sparda family. From what I remember of the lore, wasn't it at least a part of the reason why Vergil wanted power so much; to take revenge? Knowing that Dante got to it first, he may want to beat Dante to at least see how he compared after all of the stunts he pulled.
@@taxsylrc1598 yeah I hope they will bring that up in a sequel...
@@LadyAsmodeus Me too. It's a bit too important to just "forget" about.
Vergil wanted more power because he failed to protect his mom. Imagine what he'd do for his son.
"Can you meet me over here?"
*crashes van through wall*
hmm... maybe I should check the missing voice line cutscene with japanese voices tomorrow
I believe Empusa despawn only on Easy, as a way to prevent the player getting killed. I've never seen them doing this on DMD, you should check that out too.
Great work so far, I'm sure DMC5 Devs are proud!
aw :3 - I was playing on normal, to get through the level as fast as possible - I dont think the reason why they despawn is to give the player an easier time tho ~
They don't just do it on easy. I most commonly play on Devil Hunter and Son of Sparda and if you just ignore Empusas full of blood sometimes they'll do their lil dip out animation.
I just wanted to say that the reason why V has different dialogue at low health is due to a cut healing mechanic. Basically early on it was going to have soda that did different things like give DT and health like what the stars did in previous DMC games. In one of the stage clear photos you can actually see V drinking the cut soda and at the area with the billboard screens with Nero you can see the soda being advertised but it is hard to see.
holy shit, then it makes sense why he is illustrated drinking soda :D
Bro i miss V 😢😢❤
Same. V was a badass.
The same death in return dialogue is also prompted when dante deflects the summoned sword back to Vergil or something
I believe there's an extra Nero calling Nico interaction. During Mission 3 before the Artemis fight. If you die at least a couple of times, and call Nico each time. The dialogue will be different. I've only ever gotten it once myself and had to do a double take. But I absolutely know it's real when I saw my friend play and died to Artemis a few times.
dont you restart the checkpoint if you die from the boss room? meaning you can't really go back and call nico - if I remember correctly
@@LadyAsmodeus For Artemis, the checkpoint is just BEFORE the actual boss arena. So you can call Nico.
@@adamshadow9881 hmm o-o
@@LadyAsmodeus Same thing similar happens when you fight Malphas. I know that one for a super fact. When I saw said friend die to her dozens of times. LOL.
@@adamshadow9881 you mean you die then the checkpoint restarts from a point where you can return to the phone?
The Vergil’s taunt you can still get it even if you’re playing as Dante.
I need to see Vergil and Nero interact and reluctantly work together in the next game!
same :3
"Now I shall give you death in return"
*Instantly Judgement cut end's*
I remember getting that one rare line from the because I am absolutely terrible at playing him. I also find the Lofi devil trigger theme oddly enjoyable.
Of course Vergil plans. He's observant. Observant people plan.
Nothing beats Arkham's "i still have some unfinished business to take care of" is term of secret plans.
Them forgetting to put in voicelines is certainly a twist.
4:20 oh okay
*plays in Sons of Sparda*
Dad accurate behavior
Regarding the Empusa behavior, it looks to me like the AI switches to the Red Empusa version after they drink up, which includes evading the player to despawn
yeah they kinda try attacking you a bit, but then giving up
@@LadyAsmodeusas for the healing stuff, I think the enemies drop it far less often on higher difficulties
Alt title:"A dialogue so rare even a devil may cry
Incredible Detail for The Vergil
Need’s More Use
Do you know that if you beat Urizen in the prologue, valid with both Nero and Vergil, you will unlock a secret ending?
A more prominent fact being that the endings are different between Nero and Vergil
yeah, did that on heaven or hell :"D amazing stuff
Iirc Nero's alt cutscenes are based on how many Devil Breakers you have. Not sure if it's based on the number or whether it's a zero or nonzero value
"this guy just swore at me"
*Immediately goes into judgement cut end*
In vergil's "I still have much to do" i think it means that you as a player have much to do to beat level
nah the empusa behaviour is so cool
Me who's never seen the range of a JCE:😮😲🤯
im not good at nero.. i need to get perfect exceed timing.
By the way, those dialogues Vergil has when being taunted aren't mutually exclusive to Nero. They happen with Dante, too.
I liked that Devil Trigger coffeeshop version
Devil Trigger (Tropical Night)
One of 3 songs that can play in the gallery
vergil will also say that in m19
Dad I found this to… “YOU SHALL DIE”
Vergil: I won't pay child support.
Whoa never knew there was so much hidden voicelines
Nuh uh. After dodging their ultimate move while on S Dante/Vergil responds you. You can even do it on a row if you have time.
Nope, it's for taunting during Vergil's attack recovery frames (or any other downtime, but these are most consistent) and on S rank
0:48
That taunt against vergil thing actually can happen more than once, and can be done when you fight him as Dante
Bro, what a way to find out I just really suck at the game. I got a few of those rare cutscene with V at low health. 😢
really? o-o
@LadyAsmodeus yes, I got the line about no rest for the wicked on my first playthrough, and I experienced that voice line that had no sound while replaying some of the sections that I did bad on. I had assumed the no rest for the wicked was normal and that I just didn't hear the one with no sound (because I was in a chat with others)
@@angelaortega3766 but V is easiest~
@@LadyAsmodeus don't underestimate how bad I am lmao
WHAT IS THIS TRACK AT THE END????????
Nevermind; i found it , Devil Trigger (Tropical Devil Night Remix)
bro had a hypothesis mid video
which one of all the hunters you like playing the most?
my vote goes to Vergil.. yours?
vergil
if they give Vergil a SOLO game, then I think Dante will be overshadowed :D
Every time Vergil appears on the screen, everyone just dies inside from excitement. Its like going to see your favorite band, but now you go and play your favorite character :D
@@LadyAsmodeus
@@edwaaard46 yeah everyone would love that, altho if Vergil gets to be a main playable character, then he is going to need to have new weapons, since him having Beowulf is not story accurate ( he lost it in dmc 3 )
Thats the cool thing.. Seeing vergil grow as a character, and gameplay wise. But let's be honest, he is pretty good in DMC5 already. But I think they could have added a bit more to Vergil in 5. I still prefer Vergil over Dante gameplay, but Dante has a bit more depth compared to Vergil. Even a little bit too much depth in my opinion :D. One weapon less for Dante would not be a thing we would all miss.
.@@LadyAsmodeus
Song? 6:21
devil trigger tropical remix
Awesome video. Didn't know that people still discover new things in DMCV
I also want to know what the name of music playing during Nero Vs Vergil segment?
perhaps Silver Bullet? - and glad you like it :3
@@LadyAsmodeus Many thanks! I just play DMC without any sound devices so I'm discovering the OST for the first time
so wait how do u always have max stacks of exceed its it that one upgrade that gives u max stacks after a attack?
by using super-version skins of the characters you can unlock if you beat the game on dante must die
how you have infinite DT though? is that like super character pack?
yes~
You can also unlock the super costumes if you beat the game on DMD
@@arthursnyder6935 oh thanks
What’s the song played near the end? U know the that’s slowed
I think its Any special orders - Tropical remix
@@LadyAsmodeus could u be more specific please?
@@Atlas-12-7 I can't, search for DMC 5 any special orders - tropical remix
The empusa thing made me realize why behemoth’s kill other demons, it’s cuz they’re blind
Now I’m wondering, since hell antoneras are also seemingly covering their eyes, how do they see the player? 🤔
oof, I don't know which demons are those :"
@@LadyAsmodeus (they’re the ones with 2 green swords that go purple when you smack em)
@@FatalisCataclysm in which game? I still dont know :"D
@@LadyAsmodeus lol ur good, but anyway they’re in dmc5 and their nickname is “brutal berserkers”
Hope that helps! 👍
@@FatalisCataclysm I have no idea which enemy :"D is that one of the lizards?
isn't v and vergil the same person
yes
WAIT SO IT WAS RARE?
Song?
These lines are not that rare and you trigger them with other character (even V)
But i didn’t know at all about the nico voice lines and i’m really surprised. This is almost impossible for players to be low on health at the bosses with V.
I would consider them rare for casual players like me who never uses taunting :3
@@LadyAsmodeus that’s true X)
i was the 500th like
yay