SVS Ultra Evolution Titan Speakers: BREAKING THE HIGH END MOULD! Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I am reviewing the SVS Ultra Evolution Titan HiFi speakers, which marks the move for SVS into a new premium area of the HiFi speaker market. They are offering a lot of modern design technologies such as a diamond coated tweeter and a quad force balanced bass driver array with a uniquely curved cabinet design.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:57 Titans
1:52 Compromises
4:50 Diamond tweeter
7:02 BASS
12:30 Mid range
15:29 Soundstage
16:55 Amplifiers
18:22 Final Thoughts
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The HiFi System seen in this video and used for the review
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Digital music source Eversolo A6
Chord Electronics Hugo TT 2 DAC
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Gryphon Diablo 300
NAD M23
Galion TS A75
Primare Pre 35 Prima A 35.2
Power IsoTek EVO 3 NOVA / IsoTek Genesis One / IsoTek EVO 3 Titan
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I hope you enjoyed the video, I think I was maybe a touch harsh here and there with the Titans asseessment - what do you think? Let me know 😀
You are totally right in your assessment. Thumbs 👍 up!
Hi Terry, you always seem to me fair and honest in your presentations including this one. I have always valued your assessments of components as I believe you do your best to tell it like it is in a most reasonable and non-offensive way that is admirable.
@@Albet27 5g you mean?
Excellent review. A nice balance of enthusiasm and critique. It's great to see a speaker so widely available so well reviewed. Often, after watching a review of a speaker, I get so pumped up I check out the buying options. In many cases, the speakers are not available to me. Not sold directly on the internet. No nearby dealer. If I can get them somehow, there is no trial period. Not so with the Titans. But, unfortunately, I'm not too pumped up about them! 😂
A Terry video's day, is always a good day! Thanks from Portugal
That’s a very kind and generous and just a massively appreciated comment thank you all the best
As always Terry, I enjoy your great reviews! 👍
Thanks James
Great review.
Thanks Liam appreciate it
Pioneer TZ7 and TZ9 have the dual opposed bass woofers that are actually bolted together inside via a rod that goes from magnet to magnet. They are pretty old and rare. I have the TZ7-LTD's and love them.
I had never heard of them, I had to look them up, shows its a rare thing for speakers
😂😂😂
Gd review.realistic and informative.
I didn't find the review too harsh. I feel you gave credit to the aspects you enjoyed and made notation the aspects you felt could be improved. Overall I found the review positive and felt you found more to like than the few shortcomings. I haven't heard them, had I not already purchased Arendal 1723's I may have auditioned them, but I think I still may have preferred the Arendals, based solely on reviews that is ( plus my very positive experience with my Arendals 😊)
Kudos have used the name Titan for years. I agree it sounds good 👍
Great point I forgot about them
@@PursuitPerfectSystem 1723 vs this pair
May I call bulls### on your “I don’t really have a nicely designed, nicely decor’ed room?” I think your listening room is the beez kneez! I absolutely adore your implementation of acoustic treatment vs minimalism. Aside from that I agreed with everything you mentioned in this review having only listened to the Titans twice. Love your channel and keep up the good work! Cheers man…
Thank you for the kind comments, what I meant was I dont have a more "typical" nicely designed modern lounge room where everything goes down the same room where the speaker aesthetic will really matter. In dedicated rooms like mine its a little different - but thanks again
I think that Terry's listening room sucks - for listening to hi-fi speakers. Because it's an acoustically challenging room. Something about the dimensions and overall size that results in distracting amounts of bass echoes. It's something that Terry has mitigated with his room treatment and DSP.
However, the right type of totally different house with a totally different audio room would be more of a beez kneez experience.
From Terry's point of view there's the harsh reality of living in Greater London, with property prices being what they are.
@@lint8391 to be fair Lindsey is right, I have a small room so it’s a challenge but I have listened to loads of hifi systems in all sizes of room and the room size does not detract from the need for treatment I think it’s just as important. The problems just change. Since you was here years ago I have changed loads Lindsey and haven’t used dsp in here for about a year as I have not had it in the system. That’s forced me to make it work without it and I have. But it would still be better with Dirac as every system can be as every room and every system is not perfect so we can always make things better
Get some of the old wax out and test the bass on those for us Terry. We wanna hear some speed garage playing through these things 😁. Seriously though they are not too bad looking for the price not at all with the grills they would look cool in most rooms. Personally I'm not a fan of the white gloss . I don't like the recessed binding posts at the back though . Would be cool if they did the custom website colour picker for these like that video you put out other day. More companies should jump on that but then again it would screw up some of the used market so a lot of companies may be hesitant.
Yeah since looking at the configurator I am seeing the plain design speakers as plain, but there is a price difference between the 2 to think about as well. SVS are trying to offer as much as they can for as little as they can which is what most people want, lets be honest about it. I dont have any garage on vinyl yet, I will get some eventually of course.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem nice one man have a good weekend .
@@PursuitPerfectSystem just picked up Local Dubz - Da Dubz EP and Dubplate Pressure - Digital Dubs Vol 2 off Pressure Point Audio label (digi) both pretty decent worth a listen mate .
I am enjoying the bookshelves right now .. Im doing a series of sound demos and comparisons here in my room. =) I think the tweeter is a good ' evolution ' for the brand.
Quick question for you. How is the center imaging in the speakers ???? Vocals ????
@javiers.3433 ... All depends how they are setup in room.
Watch my clips.. and you'll get my answers to your questions.
@@javiers.3433mine is amazing.
The B&W 800series is a solid Diamond diaphragm.
Yep that is probably one of the differences, yes there will be many others too
Excellent reviews as always, but the connectors is behind. 😂😂😂 who cares as longs as the right material composition is used and doesn’t interfere with any of the audio frequencies!!!
Thanks
No thank you very much, very kind of you I appreciate it
The Vivid Giya range uses opposing bass drivers, but as you mentioned at a much higher price point.
I had not thought of them but yes only in their highest end speakers which shows how rare it is
Comparison between Elysian 3,R11 Meta and the Titans would be really interesting!🤗
To be fair that is what someone should do at the dealers
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I agree,but the chances for that are almost 0 unfortunately. That’s why we rely on TH-cam comparisons to get a rough picture of which speaker could be to our taste and could work in the space that we got
He certainly contrasted the speakers in this video. Particularly the Kef's and the Titans.
Great review! I’m curious though…how would you say these compare to the Arendal 1723’s?
I cant really say without having both here sorry
The Arendal's are designed for output over 80hz to meet THX cert. They are brighter overall and have less bass.
I think their greatest shortcoming is that the response was allegedly tuned by ear. Its running into crossover issues w/ suck-outs in response & crossing everything over way too low at the mid woofer. Otherwise a mostly competent speaker as long as you use EQ to fix the response issues.
You have just taken what Erin has said without giving it more thought, or likely listening for yourself.
They havetuned these to sound a certain way, likely based around theories of equal loudness not aiming for a flat response which 9/10 sounds very lean in the bass - they have gone for a warmer bass and a warmer sound and its great in the main.
Loads of speakers have dips in the response LOADS and famous ones and that can be done for many reasons - not a technical fault or crossover error for a sonic benefit.. You dont listen to these and hear that far from it and they dont shout at you either unless you feed them a shit and all speakers will shout when you feed them shit music.
If you have measured SVS cheaper speakers they measure much more text book so its not like SVS dont know what they are doing, the cheaper speaker sound pretty dull. These dont they give music some character and make it fun by being big and bold warm and bassy and that makes them standout.
You defo dont need to eq the response anymore than any other speakers, less actually - normally to make a speaker sound good in room you eq the bass up in the mid bass and down where you have problems These start there so you only eq the bits away that might cause you room problems so its less rather than more.
I work as a professional calibrator and do this all the time so I know what works and what doesnt.
Kef meta vs these for home cinema..?
I like the design of these much more than the KEFs. The KEF speakers are just one more boring rectangular box, but the angled design of these SVS Ultra speakers make them look much more premium to me since usually you only get these kinds of less rectilinear shapes in speakers that are in the tens of thousands of dollars.
Point well made
Do you think an AVR would be able to power these speakers or would you likely need an external amplifier? I’m thinking in a 5.1.2 channel set up with matching surrounds and centre.
I think they have been designed with AV receivers in mind so yes I think they will be fine but like I said the better the amplifier the more control from them you will get to a point of course
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks, that makes sense. Are you still using your Arcam AVR30 for home theatre?
I probably would be yes but I dont have a home cinema at home anymore as I sacrificed it for more space and a nicer environment to make better videos
Would love to get a perspective of these vs the Sourcepoint 888 and the GoldenEar T66. I get the impression that the SVS's are trying to compete at a lofty pricepoint.
Yeah that would have been a nice comparison and had either speaker been here I would have done it,
I just saw a review of the pinnacles that said the midrange was shouty. Did you have that experience at all with the Titans?
Definitely not totally the opposite I would have mentioned it as it would stand out massively in my small acoustically treated room.
@@PursuitPerfectSystemthanks for responding!
A modern day approach like Dunlavy. That, except without the 1st order tweeter crossover. I favor silk tweeters over diamond. never heard any diamond tweeter in any speaker that I liked.
Kef ls50 have the duel apposed drivers with a shared magnet
I think you mean ls60 yes but that’s an active speaker so it’s a little different, still not many more
What's going on with the speakers on the back they're not radiators you've got a port! as well.
in the future can you give crossover specifications it tells me how a speaker sounds knowing it's crossover. Did you try blocking up the ports with some socks or block of foam, you should try it especially close to the wall helps people deciding on buying a speaker the changes of frequency response
I explained its quad dual opposed bass drivers - the crossover is detailed in the specs in the middle-ish of the video
They Cost More than My Entire 9-Klipsch Speaker Home theater System with Marantz AVR, and Bravia 4K TV.
To be fair, you mentioned a budget audio system vs the cost of a pair of end-game status speakers.
I have Klipsch rp280f, this would be a step, probably 2 steps up. Mainly in music, tho, I can't complain about the Klipsch in movie. They are really good movie speakers. I don't think the svs will beat my Klipsch in theater. They are almost perfect for the theater and the music in movies, just not for critical music listening.
How would you compare them to the Elysian 4's ?
I havent listened to the 4 to be able to say sorry
Nice job. I used to work in schools that used to teach people how be better speakers, no pun intended. Whenever you review someone or a product always start with the positives as a form of encouragement, then after you would council them with some constructive criticism.This review went back to front IMO.
Yes that was on purpose as I wanted to get them out of the way, I was taught to write an essay with the counter argument first so there can be a couple of ways to present :)
You come out comparing the R11 as priced similarly to the Titan. Here in the US, I see the SVS going for $2000 each, and the R11 for $3250 each. So $4k vs $6500 for the pair. The extra $2500 is a fair amount more.
Yes maybe that would effect how you see it, in the UK the KEF are 500 more so that’s very close in price
Thanks Terry. These speakers do look like they are trying to give the impression they are worth more than they are, from a distance, and especially with the speaker arrangement, but really, they are still £5k speakers. So it appears they perform as such. They do have an air of pretentiousness, in my opinion, that is made clearer when you are up close and they start to give the game away. But I'm sure they will make people happy, nonetheless. And you're getting your money's worth at the end of all of it.
Pretentious… are you kidding?
Not sure the terminals and spikes are "overlooked" rather than material cost sacrifices; all those drivers and pieces to make the cabinet would take up that budget is likely.
Yeah agreed that is all mentioned as part of my conclusion but its still a lesser point of the speaker compared to others around the price so its right to mention it
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Only disagreeing with the wording at the initial mention, otherwise it's fine to mention they aren't as nice :)
I still can't fall in love with the looks however; like you say, the grills help. I also find the KEF a bit plain too tbh
You really need to biamp these with processor based dsp crossovers.
Kef LS60
Is SVS is still a bargain at this price or has it entered a territory where its competitors offer the same or even better?
The competition has always offered the same better or different at the price levels of all SVS products nothing has changed there. This is a higher performance product for money but there is huge competition
Pursuit perfect system can you tell me if klipsch rp 600m ii can sound like the usher sd-500 speaker I know the usher is a more expensive speaker and not sure why alot of people run down klipsch
Sorry never heard any Usher speakers so I cant say
Klipsch RP series are very dynamic BUT compression drivers at that price range can basically be fatiguing for some people after a while. They really throw vocals directly at the listener and our brains are tuned to vocal frequencies and are sensitive to it.
Compression drivers really shine when designed into high sensitivity systems using 'warm' electronics like tube amps.
Thatlnks for the review.
This one had to be active for a little more money. If they care about time alinement, it should have been active. I am not interested untill it's active. 😂
You think you're getting internal amplification, DSP for just a "little more money"? No, you're not.
Active speakers don't sell very well anyway. No way SVS would take such a chance on their main line.
Too much on the binding posts. No one sees it but the person who sets it up. I agree they are blah from the front, though. Are the KEFs and Titans the same price in the U.K? In the US the KEFs are over 60% more, $6500 a pair vs $4000 a pair for the SVS.
It’s not about seeing them it’s about how you access them when your using very high quality speaker cable jumpers which is why I showed them. Most speakers have moved past this as it’s better when they just stick out of the back
Everyone has an opinion, but I think the SVS look absolutely modern, stylistic and fresh. Absolutely disagree with your comparison to the Kef, the kef looks like the standard tall rectangular floor standing speaker while the curve on the SVS is what gives it character. Again, everyone has an opinion on what they like though.
Yes the KEF is rectangular but the KEF has the matching colour drivers with the silver UniQ contrast and it has matching colour driver trims. The black drivers and not matching on the SVS is why they look nicer with the grills on. The curved cabinet is nice but its not as striking in the room when you put it next to the KEF because of all the reasons I mentioned. But your point is well made.
got to disagree a little terry on the meta. they cost 4 times as much.and they definitely dont look 4 times better. i found the new svs a little bass heavy for me.or at least at the northwest show,they had them set up with a couple of subs. sounded to boomy for me.however,i thought the speakers sounded really modern and great.
I could never figure out why companies invest tons of money to make great tweeters and then to cover them up so much with a thick protective mesh of metal or plastic. They should make the protective mesh removable if you don’t have kids
So fingers from kids and clumsy people don't break them
if it has bass, then everything is OK
Its a good place to start :)
Sure buddy
Mate you constantly make reference to the KEF R series. But whilst we are all aware the KEF’s are good. But to reference to one brand or model definitely shows your bias. If you are so biased to the KEF don’t review anything else but KEF
I have reviewed 1 kef product in 5 years so don’t jump to a conclusion based on maybe 2 videos. I have been doing this job over 7 years. I am honest and fair and not biased towards any brand hence the diversity of products I review
They have in-fact, not broken the hi-end.
Whenever they try and sell you quality by saying at the price point RUN.
I had speakers in here recently around £30 - £35k and others in the £4-£6k - there is a huge difference in the build and finish and design and technology so when I am considering everything available and how it stacks up then "at the price" is the only worlds you can use. I am not selling anything here hence I started the review with all the negatives as I see them. Come on man its a bit of a silly comment to make here.
What a ridiculous comment!
"This speaker has poor quality at it's price" makes me want to buy every time. Ridiculous bro.
I find the Kefs and SVS are both bland in their own ways. Both are boring looking to me.
I can see that, the KEF look a bit nicer as they have the silver colour contrast of the Uniq but also because they have driver mount covers that colour match so you dont see the screws, that is a more premium way to do but they do cost a bit more too.
Why not address issues of clarity, coherence, tonality, timbre, timing, articulation, driver composition and integration, cabinet resonance, crossover construction, scale, soundstage and musicality, if you're going to review speakers, rather than just running your mouth?
I spoke about pretty much all of that just without using those specific key words. I think you seem to be the one running your mouth here but that’s just my take on the tone timbre articulation and construction of your comment
Cross-Over Parts?????
Kef fan boys 😅😅😅😅😅