Pneumatic oil extractor isn't safe!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2021
- I can't believe the Holt pneumatic fluid extractor can destroy engines? So im not sure about that and now ill test a different pneumatic manual fluid extractor. Today on Nates interactive auto lets find out if the fluid extractor leaves behind fluid.
For more information on the fluid extractor or where to find it check out the link below.
Fluid extractor
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Also check some of the other extractors.
Mityvac fluid evacuator plus pressure vacuum.
what is the best fluid extractor well theres is only one way to find out.
OEM manual fluid extractor is another we need to review. Also the JohnDow pneumatic fluid evacuator. Oil change mistake or even scam that could destroy your engine so check out those videos.
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For more info on the extractor or where to find it check out the description of this video. What did you guys think about this fluid extractor, I thought there were some advantages depending on your vehicle.
You don’t wear out the drain plug or oil pan and don’t need a new gasket 😁
Removing the filler cap will help with suction issues making the job easier
Dawg that genius
If there is sludge running out drain plug... You already got problems!
Watches sludge drop out drain i knew i shouldn't of used that damn extractor lol
It inevitably ends there. Normally heavier metal shavings stopped by the magnets in the pan.
Some sludge is normal with the wear n tear...
@@algeriathelandofterrorists3329 yea a teaspoon or less for like 6 liters of oil.
Exactly lol and these are really to take oil out so no big deal.
Granted that your engine is in good condition and you change your oil according to the OEM recommendation. Even if there is a very small amount of old engine oil left in the oil pan, it isn't going to be an issue. There's around half a quart of engine oil left inside the engine that cannot drain out even if you drain it from the drain plug. So even if there is say 300ml of residual oil in the oil pan that could not be extracted from the extractor, that is an extremely small percentage of the total oil capacity.
Use this all the time. Set it and forget it. You cant get all the oil out anyways so same thing but this frees you up to check, tire pressure. Battery. Belts filters. Then change the oil filter. Pull out the hose and fill it up. No mess.
I use one that works off my car battery. On my VW Passat that has over 75k miles and I've owned it since new. Most of the oil changes have been done at home using the extraction pump. My filter is on top so this actually saves me time and money. I find myself changing my oil more often (10k miles recommended), I'm usually changing it every 4k max because it's so easy to do. Highly recommend this method of changing it out!
2015 Passat TSI here - definitely giving your method a try. How do you clean the pump and rubber tubes after each oil change?
My Audi A1's oil filter is gained from the top so the oil extractor works great. Cheers
I'd imagine we should warm the engine to operating temp and then pump quickly so the sediments don't have time to settle.
Exactly
Will the hose loose its integrity?
no, because all the oil is in circle in the engine, and surently you can't extract all of it, it's better wait 15/20 minutes so all the oil return in the lower part of the motor, if you change your oil and oil filter every 15000 km probabily your engine will live longer of all the rest of the car 😅
@@luisfontanez1770 The hose looks like teflon and I think that can withstand the temperatures the oil will be at. The only thing it should not be used for is solvents.
Yes, this is correct.
Also the warmer oil will be less viscous, so you'll suck it out faster.
The engine needs to be warm, and also My Manufacture recommends extraction for means of changing oil ( Mercedes) rather than pulling the drain plug. And if you have sludge in your engine you got other problems to worry about. A well maintained vehicle will not have sludge lol.
Our shop uses bigger industrial ones. The vehicles oil needs to be hot in order to suck up everything. We found this out the hard way in winter. It took almost an hour to suck out a F150.
You forgot to mention that the drain plug sits about a 1/2" above the bottom of the oil pan. This goes all the way down to the bottom and removes everything. WatchJRGo did a video and then put his car on a lift a removed the drain plug and like you nothing came out. He then removed the oil pan and there was maybe an ounce left if that. Great video!!! THANKS!!!!
I used to use one of these on my old Volvo V70. Where I lived at the time, the driveway was pretty steep. I used to have to bother my neighbor to use her section of the driveway where it was flat, which meant asking her to move her car etc.
The oil filter was on the bottom, but I could reach it pretty easily without having to jack up the car.
The drain plug would have required jacking up the car, so I got an oil extractor instead.
It made short work of oil changes, and was much less messy too. Still needed a catch pan for removing the filter, but the amount of oil coming out was much less, so it was easier to deal with.
I wouldn't say I saved much time over a regular oil change, but it was much less unpleasant.
This is recommended for the engines that have the oil filter on top of the engine. If it’s on the bottom might as well do it the old fashion way. Even with pneumatic method it is recommended every third oil change to remove the oil plug.
Thanks, I was wondering about the oil plug.
I got a VW GTI with the oil filter on top. I used one of these extractors for the first time and it worked great. Pulled all the oil out. No crawling around on the ground. The GTI has a plastic oil pan anyway, so loosening and tightening a drain plug every oil change doesn't seem like a good idea. You got a filter on top of the engine. It's the way to go.
If theres sludge in the engine its not being serviced accordingly with the correct oil…not the fault of the pump!!!!!
These work well on warm oil as someone else suggested without issue
Yea and if your engine is all sluged up pulling the drain plug isn't gonna magically get that sludge out, either. I don't really see a downside other than the cost and space it takes up.
I have a an oil pump extractor and what I like to do is extract the dirty oil, then fill it with cheap motor oil, run the engine. Extract the oil again and replace the filter, then fill it with high quality oil like valvoline or mobile1.
Sure, I end up spending an extra $15 every oil change but I figure that's worth it for the sake of convenience.
that's a good way of flushing it. Would be even better if you drove it for a couple of blocks so the new flushing oil could dilute the gunk and slosh it around the sump for even better extraction of old gunky oil.
A few things that oil that you had was not meant for that car so that could be confusing a few people that don't really know much about cars. But anyways, I recently after years got one of these extractors, because 1 of my new Audi's has the filter on the top and it doesn't have a dipstick, you do have to have the engine warm and the oil warm. In order to get these extractors to suck everything out fast, I think it took a total of 10. Maybe fifteen minutes and I never once had to lay on the ground, so it's a winner
Great job with the demo. But definitely don’t overpump nor do the pump too fast. You want a slow n steady few pumps, then wait, then a few more until a steady flow. Give it 5 minutes and throughout add some pumps to maintain pressure.
Thanks for the info 👍
The advantage of the fluid extractor for me is on my Ford F150 with the plastic drain plug that's on the back of the oil pan and lets oil gush out horizontally is that the extractor gets almost all of the oil out. Then I take out the drain plug to get the last little bit of oil out. No more oil on my new concrete driveway.
As long as you warm the engine before extracting there will be no issue with sludge.
This works perfect on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 2017. The oils filter is on top so no need to ever go under the car for my oil change.
I just did this on my 1.8t Golf Sportwagon. I switched to compressor when made it faster.
Full synthetic 5w40 and I always have warm oil but not this time.
I do warm next time. There was a half qt in system which is like when I did oil pan drain plug.
I like it.
I believe the drain plug will get more oil / slug out better but I can see how this might be a good fit for some. This is a great product for in board boat motors, as they always seem to be very difficult, time consuming, and make a huge mess doing it the normal way. I suggest to make sure oil is warmed up in either method, and adding oil engine flush prior to oil change helps dissolve sludge that might be clinging on inside engine. Just my thoughts.
Drain plugs are often much higher than where the dipstick sits and you usually end up with 500ml of very old, sludge oil filled with contaminants, if you youtube oil extractor shootout pt 2 a bloke gives a very good example of why using oilextractors do a better job of draining motors and even better job on transmissions, i wouldn't expect someone who hasn't been trained how to use one would get it first go, they can be tricky to use despite them seeming very straight forward. Best advice i ever got for them was to make sure the tube bends away from the engine that way once it hits the bottom you twist it toward the closest wall in engine often locking it beside the dipstick and the engine, holding the tube while its gurgling will help alot too if it doesnt have a magnetic sleeve to hold it in place
Once its low on oil and gurgling, the tip of the hose in the engine taps up an down, sometimes you have to move the hose a few times in the stage if its not a hard line but a vinyl tube
Slug?
@@EPTRotorsports they meant sludge if you couldn't have guessed.............
@@tomhalf3018 I know what they meant. I've never had a car woth sludge in it though. If you are waiting that long the the extractor isn't the issue.
@@EPTRotorsports you sure didn't seem like you knew what they meant when you commented "slug?" 😂
I also never said the extractor was the issue, they actually handle collecting sludge oil very well I use an extractor everyday at work and even on cars that haven't been serviced in 60,000km it just sucks it all out within about 10 minutes, although on major services i drop the pan to inspect that it has gotten it all out, wipe with a coffee filter, flush it, extract 95% of it and drop the pan again to inspect for debris.
If this guy has sludge he apparently never changes his oil filter.
I use mine for old gas from cars I buy been sitting around for years. The fluid your pulling doesn't go through a pump, or anywhere seals can get wet by it. Brake fluid is worse because it swells o-rings up if you leave it. The reason they don't want you pulling gas with it is the danger it poses to person operating it gas has explosive fumes. If you dump it let things dry out right after no issues with pulling old gas. Works really well to get entire tank good and dry then I leave the lid off the tank for a few days make sure fumes are one I put an inspection camera down there see if there is rust in the tank. If there is rust then I replace the tank with a new one or if I can't find one I use POR-15. Lot of times no rust the varnish does a good job of keeping rust away I also live in AZ that helps lot also. Worst thing is to suck a tank dry then put new gas in there and bunch of rust gets sucked into the fuel system.
I use this on my volkswagens. The filter is on the top and i dont have to remove the belly pan. It saves my back and my time.
I would be happy to be in that situation no doubt.
Same here, I had a 2014 VW Jetta oil filter was upside down in front engine compartment. Used this extractor for oil changes never having to jack up the car. Now I have a Mazda CX-5- As long as I have to jack it up to removed tie oil filter I might as well just remove thr oil pan plug and drain it old school. However, I am going to use it again to drain my automatic transmission fluid. Also, like the ability to use it for bleeding brake fluid👍
be sure and do not use maximum air pressure. the tank will implode and it will be a giant mess. I learned this the hard way
If you own an inboard boat motor this is your only choice, and they seem to work fine.
0:58 Its pneumatic why you pumping? I have the same one, it is awesome! I did the same test on my Mercedes CLA250 it got every drop of oil, did not bother on my Subaru Impreza. Both cars took more than the recommended oil capacity that is the best way to tell if you got it all... and there was no jacking or blocks or ramps... From what I read Mercedes changes all their vehicles oil using an extractor and my Subaru Dealer is a hack they overfilled my oil and messed my drain plug with their impact driver the last time they did my oil...
Used one for years on my cars - first time on a new car I always measure exactly how much it’s managed to extract so I’m sure it will work. Also - I make sure the engine is warmed up beforehand- oil comes out much faster when warm. Vacuum doesn’t work on one of my cars though.
What’s the make/model of your car that it doesn’t work on?
@@bigmouth3511 , Citroen C1 and Fiat Punto
5 liters is not a little bit less than 5 quarts. It’s more. 1.06 quarts per liter.
Less of a mess for a mobile lube tech definitely worth it
I am beginning to like this thing especially during winter i dont have a garage. Just a cold driveway. Now my only question is how reliable is this thing?
Cool I just an oil catch can for my grand Cherokee 2912 :) this extractor looks clean easy and effective I might be interested
That's awesome please let us know how it works out. Funny just a few days ago I received a new oil catch can. I thought that another catch can which is better quality we improve on the oil vapor.
Why do you not open the filler cap?
For me since I rent it helps make less of a mess to clean up and potentially get charged for later by the landlord. Wish you spoke more about the type of compressor to use for this device. I use pumping and it sucked both extraction of oil and sore arms.
Oil extractors that can be hooked up to an air compressor for constant suction work much better than the hand pump ones. MityVac 7300 is another model that uses an air compressor (but does not have any hand pump like the one in this video). Any size air compressor will do. Moving the tube around at the bottom of the drain pan will remove all the oil. However, I would use the drain plug for the first oil change, so that any metal shavings are sure to drain out. But in any case, virtually all metal shavings are trapped in the oil filter.
What size hose will i need to fit in my 2001 Silverado
Use the suction for transmission, transfer cases, and differentials for in between services. NOT for engine oil changes. For differentials, at your manufacture recommended change, take off the differential cover to clean up any metal shavings the sucking may have missed.
Using this tool on a Honda outboard. Does removing the engine oil filler cap actually make it suck out faster?
I’m glad you did this test. I was cig it would get all the oil out
The purpose of this is to have a mess free oil change. It takes 1 minute to take off the oil filter and put a new one on, also you dont have to keep replacing crush washers etc or worry about wrecking threads and bolts. Which seems to happen more commonly than not to the average person. Everytime i do an oil change somehow i always seem to get oil on the floor. This is different than a shop with lifts and those drain containers that are adjuatable etc with the mesh screen where it makes 0 mess. Ive used varioua oil pan tran trays and with the initial drain oil somehow always splashes out. Also less time on your back and dont really need a lift to do it as alot of oil filters are accessible from the front underneath.
there could be sludge in the pan that oil would push out when draining from pan but using vacuum extractor may not reveal that sludge in bottom of pan when you checked it
Bullshit, used them since 90's never had a problem
I would like one not for speed but looks like less messy ,less paper towels.
This thing is awesome when doing power steering fluid change.
You don't have to open the oil drain plug screw and literally no risk to wear the oil sump. But in the long run it might jam the drain plug screw.
What is that blue thing on the end?
I’m pretty sure I have the exact same pump but it doesn’t work and I’m suspecting it because mine doesn’t have that .
I bought it secondhand on marketplace but it won’t seem to suck up anything.
I use this for small engine oil changes. And if you're lucky enough to have an oil filter on top. But IF you're worried about Sludge?? Your waaay to late.
If the engine is equipped with a top mounted filter this tool would worth it
Yeah I completely agree, thanks for sharing
Every bmw ever
Jaguars have filters in the top of the engine bay. They also have a tube to the bottom of the pan. The whole process takes be about 5 minutes with an electric pump
I’ll keep having my mechanic change oil when I get my yearly inspection done.
I agree not much advantage as you have to get to the oil filter underneath but I think most people want to avoid messing with drain plugs and seals so for some that’s the advantage
have you ever used this unit to bleed brakes ? Or do you find the hoses leak air when pushed on to the brake bleed nipple? Is it possible to connect a vacuum pump to the top of the canister?
sure you can use this for bleeding brakes. but common mistake is not greasing the threads on the bleeding nipples. By not greasing the nipple around it can cause to draw air through the threads.
Clean the nipple from dust and debris. Grease the nipple around. Connect vacuum pump to nipple. Create vacuum through a couple of pumps. Make sure your brake oil tank is full. Release the nipple and pump on the brake paddle. Throughout operation maintain vacuum on the vacuum pump and continue to do so till fresh brake oil comes through.
How do you clean the thing?
Engine degreaser
Which oil extractor is the best? I’m in the market for buying one. Thanks in advance
I can tell two reason right off the top. When its windy and you can only change your oil outside. Second reduces spillage and mess that it creates.
It’s great if your kids overfilled something and doing power steering flush’s and brake jobs and differentials without removing the cover.
Try warming the engine to thin the oil. Also, the filter holds a quart or so.
I love these fluid extractors so what if I have to raise the car to put on the filter. This thing is still a time saver.
How much psi do you use from the air compressor ... some people say between 40 and 120 but I haven't tried it yet ?!
OEM tools tech support recommended 85 psi for their pneumatic oil extractor.
Same test on Benz C-Class W205, it extracts ALL ! But it seems that it is not true with some other cars ? You need to test !
Ok fir routine oil changes yes. But,
If there is oil sludge in the pan, you have other problems anyway.
It helps if you do it properly for any method... extraction or drain.. You never removed your filler cap so you are fighting a negative vacuum when trying to extract...
It work really good for changing oil on soft tail motorcycle. Also. Use an air hose. It works just fine for sucking out gas. Just use a different one for oil
I k is there is a bit of oil left o er after a drain, I feel better when I pour new oil in and let that drain out then plug it back up. Not sure if this works.
the machine in question is not at fault. I've had 1 for over 20 years. If you use it as it was intended for it will work. The error is the operator blaming his tools.
I wouldn’t use the pump for the speed, but to avoid a mess under de car 🤣
you can literally drive to parts shop, start extracting at the parking lot. Then go buy oil and the time you are back its ready.
I would say as long as its used per directions it should be just fine. In fact a time saver. Set it up and work on other stuff.
theres almost always some gas in oil so how could the pump say dont use with gas?
This is a great basic pump if you have a super high quality oil/air filter and plan to do extended drain intervals. I used to drain the oil every 3000 with a filter change at 10k. The best oil filter is a better air filter. If you did this on cvt transmission fluid every 20k, they would go 250k miles no problem. They are tough on fluid as they shear. I would just use a 🦃 💉 turkey baster on power steering fluid. Drain and Fill is the success to oil and transmission longevity.
I used this on my 2014 Passat TDI and no it didn't work well at all.
Purchased it from Harbour Freight ($99 + tax). Removed filler cap and fed hose through dipstick opening. After pumping for about 7 minutes I extracted only 3 liters of oil (67%). Last minutes of pumping I got only air coming out. Since I already stane the extractor, it is not returnable. I'm pretty sure I will finf use for it. It just it doesn't work for oil extraction on my car.
The advantage is that its less messy.
I never worry about jacks for this on my Rogue. I just put it on ramps and that gets it up enough. This isn't one of those vehicles they design in such a way that a wheel has to come off to get to the filter. At least the 2.0 is not like that. Unfortunately the 2.5 is but I don't have that and don't have to be one of those people cursing the engineer for making me have to take a wheel off to change the oil.
I use my extractor for small engines, especially generators
If you have sludge in the oil pan, you're not changing the oil change often enough anyway
Or does the metal bits just need a fluid as a medium to DRIP OUT. (I bought one today lol)
ATG & I say if you have to buy get the ATG's or like because the pump is outside.
No matter what you will have a nightmare cleaning the tank that has a pump inside. Then you still need to get under 4 filter.
I personally will never use a fluid extractor for changing oil in any vehicle
Now a transmission, differential or something that doesn’t have a drain plug would be great especially a draining a transmission before removing the pan and having less mess
I just bought ecs tuning one for 2011 Jetta and I still gotta jack up the car 😂😂😂 I'm still gonna use it tho 😂😂
5 liters is MORE than 5 quarts not less!
It is fast pumping engine probably wasn't hot enough that's why you should turn your engine on a little bit and makes the fluid hotter and it comes out faster.make sure your engine is off when you are pumping though😘
Never but a few drips remaining in my 2021 Subaru Ascent.
You could leave the plug off and 3 hours later it will drip just slightly. For that to not have oil dripping out the bolt is suspicious
Sorry I'll do it the old fashioned way take out the drain plug. I'm to much old school.
I completely understand, myself included but as one gets older or even injured it may change.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO That's very true.
same , only way the extractor comes out is if i got a customer who has a rounded plug or has oil pan thread issues
Advantage: less mess
The instruction for my pump said I have to make sure the stick is all the way at the bottom so I did… now it’s stuck and won’t come out no matter how hard I try. Guess I have to pull the pan out and a quick “20 minute oil change” is gonna turn into a whole day of suffering 😒
Owch!
With a nylon pipe, I would think it impossible to snap so I hope you gave it the full beans before you surrendered!
If there's sludge in your crankcase you have a problem
It looks to me like its working harder to get out of work.
5 liters isn't less than 5 U.S. quarts, it's more than 5 U.S. quarts.
why cant it extract gasoline
Should of removed oil fill cap when pulled the drain plug
I like to look under my car once in a while so dont mind lifting it up
It’s not that fast ? The process takes about 1 to 2 minutes total
It’s mechanic’s worst nightmare
if this messes my car up im taking the car to the dump lol
Advantage I would say less mess
Not until you get to the oil filter. And worst cleaning the jug, while many do not tell or say.
Most of the time you got to get under the car to get the oil filter out.
You really dont have to change the oil filter with every oil change, especially if you do oil changes earlier and more regularly than manufacturers limits.
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This is not really smart.
drain it twice run the new oil the first time then after 30 seconds suck it out again best results
Who told you it could destroy an engine?
5 Liters is more than 5 quarts…..