Alien: Covenant - What Does The Ending Really Mean?
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as soon as David cut his hair I knew he would kill Walter and replace him.
dmrc43 dude, are you Batman? I’m just kidding. Because Batman would realize something like that as soon as he saw it.
Of all the crews through out the franchise, the Covenant crew is by far the dumbest.
1. Nostromo - They were sent there by the WY against their will
2. Sulaco - They went there on a supposed rescue mission
3. Prometheus- They at least went there with a noble mission - to meet our makers
4. Covenant - They decided to change course last minute, go against protocol, and land on a totally unstudied planet. They get what they deserve.
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It’s Shaw’s unyielding faith, even after Prometheus, when she asked the beheaded David for her cross, that drives her to go to the engineers planet to “talk to” humanity’s creators. Boy did that backfire!
The captain of the Covenant, who was deemed unfit for command by wayland industries, was a man of faith, who’s faith drove him to the engineers uncharted planet, not the vetted colony planet as his num 2 Daniels told him. Boy did that backfire
David’s “belief” of his superiority as seen in the opening scene between him and Weyland.
David:
“If you created me, who created you”...
“You seek your creator, I’m looking at mine. I will serve you, yet you are human. You will die, I will not”
Weyland
“Bring me the tea....and your shine box”
David’s faith in his own “perfection” was flawed when WALTER pointed out his error in crediting a quote. I guess going a decade without a maintenance check will “fuck up your perfect composure” as the covenant capt told him.
There’s always a place for faith, but logic and reason would tell you that since the engineers tried to kill us and the pathogen was amazingly aggressive, best to “nuke the site from orbit,” cuz it’s the only way to be sure.
Logic would have told the covenant to go to the vetted planet, not an uncharted world with 2000 souls on board.
Weyland is guilty too. He created as close to perfection as possible, and instead of humbly educating his creation that “to error is human”, he tells him to “go grab your shine box”, forever cementing David’s hatred of humans....
TheVFXbyArt "go get ya fuckin shine box Davey" love it
what was dumb about the rescue mission? have you even watched the movies or just read a review?
TheVFXbyArt Well said. At the root of human imperfection-or sin, if anyone reading this is a Christian like me-is pride. Thinking higher of yourself than you ought to think has created tremendous misery throughout human history. We see the same thing happen in movies like ‘Jurassic Park.’
@@SamDNVS Yes, but I think the Covenant crew was dumber than the Prometheus crew, since it is stupid to take the helmets off but it is even more stupid to wear no helmets and suits from the beginning (after their landing on the planet, the Covenant crew looked more like a school excursion than a serious space expedition).
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The Walters have created the ultimate genetic hybrid Walter. All jokes aside tho who wants to sea an ultimate predator vs a fully grown deacon. Plus i am pretty sure the ultimate predator has engineer dna
But what about David vs Predator?
damn, typical merica style
Prometheus made me want to know more
Alien: Covenant made me regret questioning anything
What does the ending really mean? Simple: that a sequel is only a matter of time. Katsching!
ShelLuser Perhaps not with the takings of this film.
ShelLuser Not going to happen. Ridley Scott is 79 and covenant is kinda bombing.
Which is whyyyyy, they are going to do whatever they want to the franchise until they win back the public. It may take several terrible movies... Hell, even a Kingdom of the Crystal Skull... But as long as there is money to be made, movies will be made. We are bound to get a good one eventually.
I think Prometheus was a lot better, more rewatchable certainly. Visually very nice and more sophisticated than what was written about it. Covenant was less nerdy, more of a basic thriller on many levels.
It means that Ridley Scott thinks we're all starfishes with sever brain damage, because that's probably the only creature on the surface of the planet that's not gonna see the twist coming 73 miles away.
George Zhang I don't even think it was meant to be a surprise. Throughout the switch, I felt like we were meant to analyse how David reacts to his creation on its effectivity. It was interesting to watch his facial expressions during the observation through the screens. Fassbender is an amazing actor.
George Zhang There were people in my theater that were surprised by that twist... so yeah
RandoMango Just saying that either way it goes, it was interesting as an observation.
George Zhang as soon as we see there's two characters that look the same with one as a villain...we know were going to get a scene of confusing the two haha..with hopefully the cliche meter not being too full and going for the "no, shoot him, I'm the real one!" nonsense..
But then they even.show him cutting his hair and oh, woops, even more obvious. I get maaaaybe if they want to go with him trying to civilize himself a little bit for their arrival but did they really think we would be surprised by that reveal? I mean since they had him act odd on the ship during the xeno fight i hope they just knew we would know and the twist was just for daniels sake.
I liked the movie and the story a lot though for sure
Starfishes that never saw X-Files. They did the black alien goo thing and now here comes Aliens with their own black goo. Booooring.
Actually David didn't create the xenomorphs, the engineers did but David wanted to improve them into a perfect organism.
he also created several popular video games including frogger
My gosh just call the Predators
Only a different franchise because of this movie. It was originally intended to be in the same universe but Ridley Scott refused to allow that beautiful combination to come to life so now we have contradicting universes. Which sucks, thanks ridley
It was a joke lol
"Who can you call?"...………... Preeeeeedators
@@anubisgod23 I'm sorry what? AVP is never canon
The rage war!!!!
The ending mean Aliens aren't Aliens but rather "a species created by an Android with daddy issues".
But this is consistent with the original film...granted Ash was following orders, and the issues were with "Mother," but he facilitates the almost-suceess of the xenomorph...also, the title of the original film doesn't solely refer to the extraterrestrial on the ship...but also (and in some cases, more critically) to the reveal of Ash as being an alien (as in interloper), and to the whole crew being alienated both by their distance from home and inability to run away and the fact that the corporation is making moves behind their backs. And also - he's merely refining a process he already saw pieces/examples of through scientific inquiry and a drive to Discover and Improve...just without any of s human's moral/ethical hangups. There still remains the question of whence this Engineer goo came from...presumably a genetic breakthrough on the level of say fusion? Maybe we'll find out...
Which means Xenomorphs are your standard floosy trope and love to sleep around with the first person they see.
They weren't created by David, eggs on lv426 found by Hadleys Hope inhabitants pre date Covenant by a long time
The engineers tried to "Banish the wolf".
David is just reversing their work to bring it back.
This is canon now and confirms two things:
1. The xeno existed before David
2. The engineer mutagen(black goo) was derived or based on dna that either contained "the wolf" or was the wolf. - Hence their attempts to "banish" it".
In short - They wanted to keep the lifegiving properties but get rid of the wolf, not realising the two go together.The mutagen could never be redesigned, it would always be a wolf at its core and the wolf genes would always manifest, hence all the mutations we have seen so far.
All this implies the wolf existed before the engineers which then implies the engineers are merely an introduction/subplot to a much grander story to come.
Here's my theory, based upon David's "before you can create you must first destroy" meme:
We can see by the myriad of systems displayed in the Orrery that the Engineers were spreading life across part of the galaxy. When that life didn't evolve the way they wanted they wiped the planet clean and started over.
One way to do this is by steering asteroids into a habitable planet. The disadvantage is that it takes millennia for the ecosystems to recover.
Enter the Xenomorph. It consumes all animal life, lays eggs, and dies off when the food source is depleted. Efficient, but could take a century or more.
Enter the black goo. Able to destroy (apparently) only humanoid life in a matter of minutes, it would take a few days to clean off a planet like Planet 4. Once activated, it will become inert after a certain period of time, enabling the Engineers to begin the reseeding process quickly.
Yes, Shaw was the original Queen. Her wide open stomach was from David using the black goo and growing morphed eggs (ovamorph) inside of Shaw, then opening her up and cutting them out. This was repeated for each egg you seen the room. She was kept alive by artificial means, including her own mutations induced by David. This is seen as the bony tubes coming off of Shaws head. These items make a sort of flat shield over her head, just like the original Alien Queen.
Ju5st Lookn Sounds great, but where are you getting this?
@@AJ-xm4xc he is David :/
...I think it's so much more powerful, meaningful and horrific that we're left to imagine it rather than the false comfort depicting this would probably have forced to make it showable. COVENANT is about David 8 alone, and this perfectly segues from PROMETHEUS and gives new life and impetus to what has become a pretty confused story overall...
According to the canon "novel" that goes with the movie David said he discovered the eggs in the temple and began to experiment on them not that he actually discovered them which raises the question if the engineers created them or found them and were astonish by their "perfection"
This is what happens when you try to explain a film that never needed explaining.
Kuddlesworth NA it did tho, how did Aliens come about me how did Engineers?
Me and others lmao
Although I did care and like where Vader/Anakin came from, your right about the Xenomorphs. They're cool and don't need explaining. It's the chicken or the egg. Who cares...
Things don't need explaining but more films can be made exploring the universe, to create good films and stories. So yeah I'm not going into these films desperate for an explanation just good stories that make sense.
Yeah but the movies arnt about the xenomorph. The past two movies have been about a free thinking android named David. I think theyre great science fiction.
"You hold the flute... I'll do the fingering."
Can someone tell me how a synthetic with regeneration can loose in a fight with a synthetic who doesn't?
David has a plot armor...
Rng
David was smarter than Walter
Drake Loki awesome plot by Ridley) just swallow it)) alien is dead now...killed by his own creator...
I would love it if it turned out that David really did steal the idea for the xenomorphs from the engineers because it will show how he stole an idea from a superior force and took it as his own. How..........................human.
Walter didn't die because we don't know that he did
it sounds like possibly that David again incapacitated him and downloaded him self into Walters body. that could explain all those thing that happened from the hair to the security codes.
Sleepy Cerberus exactly. If they don't show the death the guys still alive
vertabrate1 If David dowloaded Walker then how do you explain David not knowing about the log cabin by the lake?
Then why did he need to have his face stapled to repair it? 1) Walter's body repairs even normally fatal injuries fast, (see neck stab that David replies, "You should be dead") so why does he need Daniels to staple him? 2) in doing so he also exposed that fact that he was David and NOT Walter because Daniels should have known that Walter self repairs so why was she stapling, (repairing) Walter? That's why I think it was David that cut his own arm off to convince the remaining crew that David was Walter. Just my guess.
Ross Malagarie Walter face was cut and didn't heal during the fight yet when he was stabbed he healed quick and his body had more time to heal as well during the fight.
two or three more years of useless theories..that's what it means (angry tone)
skankhunt42 yup here we go with the xeno queen theories and how it adds up but bet you 5 bucks that the next movie will be like if not just like this one 😩no answers answered just more questions
And what if the next movie isn't the last, nor the answer. Franchises . . stretching them out like this may take this series into dwindling returns.
skankhunt42
skankhunt42 you dont know what makes a great film franchise since a movie leaving you asking questions and discussing it has more impact than films where everything is blatantly explained , plus Scott said his is still part of a series of prequels that lead into.alien and I dont see scott making any more prequels than.necessary for the story telling/plot
you know what it's fun to speculate, like speculating how covenant could be a better film, we speculate assuming ridley learns his lesson, also michael fassbender is awesome.
What David is likely planning to do now is create the first Alien queen.
David mentioned in the movie that the aliens are waiting for mother, which I assume is in reference to the alien queen.
That pretty much implies that the alien queen doesn't exist yet.
If you concider a mind that is as cold and calculateing as it is twisted and broken as ultimately evil as that of David's
In the dark tomb the recess that lies under the Vallhala that is the Engineer temple which David usurped for himself and his creations surronded by the large leathery alien eggs David replys to the Covenants captian Oram they are waiting for mother ' Oram dose not comprehend his fate from an egg a face hugger is about to leap onto his face locking its crab like legs around his head the face hugger will insert its phalic ovipositor down his throat ejaculating an alien embro into his body. Oram will
be the "mother" that gives birth to the alien monster in his death as it bursts from his chest covered in his blood the alien monster the xenomorth '
You know what I think it is? I think it's your voice. I always feel comfortable, yet, inquisitive to whatever you're reading and I listen ALL the way through. Thank you for having this discussion here and I look forward to finding out where this story is taken!
Here is the full canon Prometheus/Alien timeline
TED 2023 (Video)
Prometheus (film)
Alien: Covenant (film)
Alien (Film)
Alien: Out of the Shadows (novel)
Alien: Isolation (video game)
Alien: River of Pain (novel)
Aliens (film)
Alien 3 (film)
Aliens: Colonial Marines (video game)
Alien Resurrection (film)
Alien: Sea of Sorrow (novel)
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93 AD - Prometheus initial scene, where an Engineer sacrifices himself to create experimental life on a planet.
2023 AD - Peter Weyland gives a TED TALK
2064 AD - An Elizabeth Shaw memory from that time is shown in a memorial device system seen by David in Prometheus.
2089 AD - Elizabeth Shaw and Charles Holloway discover a star map in a Scottish cave, dating back to 35 000 years.
2093 AD - Major happenings in Prometheus expedition.
2094 AD - Catastrophic happenings that destroys Prometheus crew, except Shaw and David.
2104 AD - Happenings from Alien: Covenant
2122 AD - Happenings from Alien.
2137 AD - Happenings from Alien: Isolation aboard the Sevastopol space station.
2179 AD - Ripley is rescued from the Outer Rim.
2181 AD - Ripley is taken to Gateway Station.
2183 AD - Major happenings from Aliens, in Hadley's Hope.
2184 AD - Happenings from Alien 3.
2386 AD - Ripley is resurrected.
2434 AD - Major happenings from Alien: Resurrection.
93 AD? Maybe you made a mistake typing or maybe you were misinformed BUT humans were around way before 93 AD
Why are games and novels included but the comics left out?
The comics are non-canon. Aside from the fact that there are elements that could be canon, but the full story can't be, seeing how Predators, and Xenomorphs are involved.
+Fish Fish
Can't help thinking about Aliens vs Predators vs Terminators comic. Humans eventually created the terminators to combat both Aliens and Predators.
Lavar's Balls lol, there's also that archie vs. Predator comic. But anyway, I was just talking about the alien comics in general. The ones about the xenomorphs, and the space jokes etc etc.
And how could they write off Elizabeth Shaw in such a shit way?
Dancerama6 actually of you know why, it's an excellent write-off
AmazinFrenchFry no it's not. It's a terrible write off for the person we were supposed to root for in the first one.
AmazinFrenchFry just hearing 'she died' and seeing Elizabeth's rotting open corpse counts as 'excellent' to you? Fucking why? 😂
Because, in Alien Covenant, Elizabeth isn't suposed to be a hero. Nor are the other characters. And you want more? Neither are the xenomorph suposed to be the enemy, or what is suposed to be feared.
Is David. And what David represents.
Leonidas Pereira well then Ridley is a moron for baiting and switching the audience from what they may have liked in Prometheus into what he thinks they should like about Covenant. I've never seen a worse transition of details between a film and its sequel.
This definitely been one of your guys' better videos. Do more stuff like this!
this is like the tv series LOST, ridley has no idea where it's going. just digging a deeper shit hole.
Noseefood same writer i think lmaoo
How many times can the "moron slips in blood and bangs head, dazing them long enough to get eaten" cliche' be used in one movie? Three. The answer is three.
One major problem with David being the creator of the xenomorph is Capt. Dallas clearly says about the pilot of the derelict;
DALLAS: Alien lifeform, looks like it's been dead a long time. Fossilized.
So, we're not talking a decade or two, but THOUSANDS, if not TENS-OF-THOUSANDS of years!
It's also much more massive than humans or engineers. They should have the space-jockey and engineers be seperate species. The jockeys originally created everything in our part of the galaxy as they were the first developed species. Then the xenos killed them off thousands of years earlier, leaving the engineers to take over their plan. But the engineers want to wipe out humans as they see themselves as the only 'true' creation. That's what I would do.
Though I think it's an interesting idea, the one problem I have with a progenitor race is they had to have been around for BILLIONS of years, yet they seem technologically, and evolutionary stagnant.
One would think given the huuuge swath of time they have lived they would have evolved into a higher state of being far beyond human comprehension, or passed on into a new plain of existence.
True. But evolutionary & technological blind alleys do happen. Civilizations can stop progressing when there's no catalyst to do so. I'd certainly prefer that to pretending a giant fossilized alien is now Michael Fassbender.
David didn't create the actual Xenomorph; this is something else similar. The actual "Xenomorph" came much, much before this.. And their DNA or something of that matter is what the engineers used to weaponize the pathogen.
There is a mural of a Xeno in Prometheus, so it's clear that the aliens were around a lot earlier than David's creations.
Domgrath PW I've read an interesting theory about that mural stating that the mural is like a metaphorical mirror of some sorts reflecting a persons true character, with David being in that chamber it represented a xenomorph which is revealing that the evil and malevolence of what's about to come through David
That was very well thought out presentation thank you.
having David create the xenomorphs robs then of their mythical status. I liked it much more when they were Lovecraftian creatures from beyond the stars. Now that all the mystery has been explained ( sorta) they have lost a bit of their power and gravitas
Ehhhh its not done yet. The xenomorph having arms as soon as it bursted out was too coincidental to me. APPARENTLY in the novelization, when david is talking to the captain he fully admits that the engineers made them and he is simply trying to recreate them. He got it right but it proved too aggressive and he had to kill it. So what we see now is supposedly him trying tame them and hence i don't think david's alien is the true thing. Time will tell though... no sense in arguing about it.
Lol you are implying that The Force Awakens was a 'recovery'?
i agree. but maybe it is all part of hollywood's diabolical plan to make a good alien vs. predator.
You're right! That's what happen to me with the prequels of Star Wars... They killed the mistery. I used to love Boba Fett but now we know where he comes from and what's he's favorite color and it lost it's appeal. We don't need to know everything... "Lovecraftian" is a cool term to exactly describe what the xenomorphs were.
I still see the xenomorphs as mythical and lovecraftian. The black goo, that is the source for developing xenomorphs, where does that come from. Maybe the engineers, or maybe they discovererd it and tried to tame the creatures it created.
One theory is that David did a brain/mind switch with Walter.
John Pagdilao No that can't be it because Walter self healed but David still had the cuts on him when they got back to the ship
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but then how is David scared when he is on the Covenant? If he had Walter's body, then his wounds would have healed by the time he got to the dropship, much less the main vessel
Yeah love how neither of them noticed that. Oh why aren't you healing? I could see the chip switch though. Maybe Walter is still in there and there will be a battle of wills later?
Oh that's a cool idea... idk that doesn't bother me too much. maybe they just don't know he can heal
david did the fingering, that's for sure
2 things:
1- you just assume its the engineers homeworld - tbh it just feels more like one of the planet under their control
2- everyone for some reason assume that david killed elizabeth shaw but it is possible she just died in the crash like he said and he experimented on her body later - it is also possible that is what pushed him over the edge, i dont remember any proof in the movie that he indeed killed her other that seeing her body....
I can answer that question because I just saw the movie again recently. He does in fact mention that he killed Shaw and she didn't just die in the crash. Daniels was looking through some of his sketches in the "study" or "library" room when David sneaks up on her. She says "Shaw didn't really die from a crash, did she?" and David confirms that it wasn't how she died.
Thanks. I needed the explanation. Keep em coming. I'll subscribe.
They should have made an ending scene were the predators got a signal that the aliens are alive and the predators are on there way to the aliens
I still love this movie. Can't wait to see the next films
Why please elaborate?
How can you like a film where you don't know any of the characters and they all deserved to die because they were complete idiots. except for Danny mcbride
Daniels was likable enough and just because they didn't have a good development doesn't mean they are bad. I love this film for its fantastic atmosphere and visuals, we have new interesting creatures. The acting was good too.
I found Daniels quite a likable character too, its kinda sad to think about the point that was brought up in the video about Daniels not returning because she knows too much.
I think Daniels will be back, it happened so close to her being put into sleep that David could just explain it away as a dream. Plus, he stated that Tennessee and Daniels were the only survivors. Unless they're forced to make drastic changes again, they won't kill her off like Shaw.
Good point, I didn't remember him saying that, I thought he just said that they all died
David wants to be a god and thinks of himself as a creator. He even says so himself in the poem he recites. He sees humans as weak and foolish which he clearly demonstrates to the poor crew of the covenant. He also kills Shaw, someone who repaired him. My two cents.
You went over it all, but yeah David’s creatures are not the Xenomorphs we all know and love. He came to that Engineer planet and experimented with existing creatures, hence the whole macabre workshop scene. We also get a hint at this in the script where he found a Xenomorph (proper) already made and experimented on it to try to make it perfect. Xenomorphs were already prefect but David is just following after the legacy of his creaters, trying to make an even better creature. The mural of the Xenomorph is obviously them maybe not worshipping them but memorializing one of their greatest weapons, there is even that scene in Prometheus where there are temporal visual whispers of what happened there and obviously that was a Xenomorph outbreak. Unfortunately for the Engineers, Xenomorphs don’t need a ship to travel off/on a planet. I know some of my information is from the old canon/not relevant anymore but the fact Ridley Scott kept the fact that Engineers created the Xenomorphs was kept as well as tons of other old canon pieces of information, plus that’s what all the signs point to. All this isn’t a reboot or remake or anything it is just continuing the overarching story but with new twists/style to make people think this is ALL NEW EVERYTHING!
Great video Ben! I am one of the people who wants another film and
more info!
It means there are two hours and two minutes of your life you ain't ever getting back.
That movie what's soo nassty
ExoticTheory 4Life Nasty, but not scary.
That's nasty
Cool video, nice work! I really want to see Tenesse and Walter return!
Great video. Thanks.
Why are there mini face huggers anyway? Isn't the egg a necessary phase to grow them? Or will he raise the adorable lil guys on his own? Perhaps the colonists brought along some tiny hamsters and the next film will have a bunch of terrifying Xenosters (tm). Lets face it this film was a badly thought out mess.
They aren't "mini-facehuggers," they're embryos. Basically, what David did was take them out of their eggs and swallow them before they were fully developed. He then regurgitated them and placed them in with the human embryos aboard the Covenant presumably to keep them safe and alive until he can enact whatever evil plan he has concocted for the poor unsuspecting colonists in cryo-sleep.
I saw the embryos as a sort of Adam and eve
I didn't hate the movie but it was disappointing. So many unanswered questions and holes. Like David not using Walter's voice before hand, not having healing skin and no one noticing and no stab wound from the nail. I was hoping she would use the nail to kill him honestly. Would've been good foreshadowing. I'm just sick of the prequels, show the link already and make another actual alien movie. Hello make a movie like alien isolation.
+Nick Lewis Yes Im the same, I dont hate Covenant I just found it disappointing. Not so much for those little things you mentioned even. But actually for the big things like, how Prometheus ended. Putting the idea in all our heads that the protagonist, the heroine from that movie was going on to get answers; to her being killed off, OFF-SCREEN was unforgivable to me.
Thats like a unbroken rule for the audience you just dont do in a sequel, especially when its a character you care for or am rooting for from the last movie. I could accept Shaw would die at some point, but "onscreen" so I am given that closure to her character and story arc. Plus I really wanted to see shaw getting her answers from the engineers.
I think the only link or real connection Ridley can truly give us now, is to show how there were facehugger eggs on Planet-4. And the engineers, studying their problem with humanity, created the facilities on LV-223, where some of the facehugger eggs were transferred, and one of their own caused the outbreak. Escaping LV-223 with the facehugger eggs and eventually got impregnated and put down on LV-426 sending out the warning/beacon.
That way Ridley would tie up the loose ends and connect the event of LV-223 to everything moving forward.
From here Fox could do two things, another movie where David uses the covenant crew to be hunted by xenomorphs on Origae-6, in underground caves, going back to a true horror suspense style. And making a follow-up game to Isolation, where you play as a scientific and military crew, who head to LV-223 to find out the fate of the Prometheus mission, and come across the fully grown Deacon, who hunts you and your team, in the same gameplay horror-survival style as Alien: Isolation, and you can explore those temple/dome facilities.
the narrator is great, clear as a bell and well spoken
I've got a nerdy question but first background to the question. i watched a science vid about alien covenant and i haven't been able to locate it-in the vid the guy says he believes when David referred to the protomorph as the " perfect organism" he meant the combination of protomorph and neomorphand he gave terminology for the neomorph being the fast growing organism that paves the way for the other being the protomorph and the protomorph being the slow growing and eventually superior organism and how they relate- does anyone know the terminology or the video itself? and could explain this theory in a vid?
At the end David used his own David code to get in. Mother responded to David's code
Exactly, can't believe so many reviewers miss this. Shows there was collusion, to some extent, this was planned. The company is always using their explorers as sacrificial lambs to gain access to these bio weapons.
The whole mission was a setup, probably why the planet was hidden, the company I am sure knew of it's existence.
Please this isn't the birthpoint of the original aliens. Please!
Just saw the movie and I do not recall the scenes with David being worked on by those women with veils or the skeleton of the android being pieced together or the scene with Eddie Franco in the ship. Where are they from? An extended cut?
Love the background music in this video. Where can I find and download it?
The engineers are not dead that planet was not the home world
RaptorRampage . Yeah, that was just their “Vatican city”.. There’s a whole planet! What about the engineers “New York”, “Paris”, “rio de Janeiro”, heck their engineers “vegas” and “new Amsterdam”! 😆
Yeah planet doesn't have much structure and doesn't look they have energy source
Maybe Daniels could be a test for a Queen???
At 2:14 it appears some extra footage of david or walter being created, where can I see this clip in its entirety?
David IS the creator of the classic Xenomorph.
Ridley Scott confirmed it in an interview by pointing at a picture of the Xeno and saying: "The Engineers didn't create this guy. David did."
As for the Space Jockey on LV426 - I think it's gonna be ret-conned as David himself being inside that Engineer suit. He finally came up with a version of the Xeno that could utilize an Androids body to gestate and then used himself as a host.
He will see it as his final creation, being both the father and mother of the perfect organism. Him dying in the process fits well with his own theory "Doesn't all children want their parents dead?".
David will then produce the very first actually bio-mechanoid Queen Xeno, which will later lay all those eggs and die.
Going even further, part of David's programming might even exist in all Bio-mech Xenos like a software virus - and maybe they are all interconnected wirelessly with each other, explaining their hivemind, their ways of seemingly communicating telepathically, AND then why Ash went crazy on the Nostromo. The Alien was communicating with him on some level, corrupting his behavioral subroutines. Wayland-Yutani may have learned about this, which is why Bishop was never affected. He was a new model that was deliberately incompatible with previous ones. He even says himself the old models "always were a bit twitchy", and that it could never happen with his model.
There ya go FOX! You can hand me my co-writer paycheck now. :))
What a fucking mess of a story, the whole beauty and horror of the first film, was the "not knowing"
It means that Ridley Scott only had one good Alien film in him.
LeiFlux07 What about Gladiator?
The last time I checked, Gladiator wasn't an Alien film.
LeiFlux07 or was it....*puts on tin foil hat* lol
nope
LeiFlux07 Prometheus was good
As someone below stated, xenomorphs are not only david's creation. He only followed engineer's manual and was able to create a few of them. In Alien movie - Space Jockey was carring a xeno inside him (maybe didnt know about it) and that xeno was able to evolve in queen and lay eggs. Those are eggs seen in Alien. Ship went down because space Jockey died, he doesnt meant to land on that planet it was just unplanned emergency landing. Real creators of xenos are engineers.
Theory time: The Engineers weren't planning on punishing mankind. They created them as experimental replicas of themselves to use in their Xenomorph creation experiments when enough people finally existed, effectively rendering planet Earth as one of many test runs (planets) perfectly separated from the others by the vastness of space. David decides to take up this mantle. For some reason it winded up killing that planet's Engineers (or more people created by the real Engineers). In a nutshell, Engineers begin Xenomorph creation experiment. Mural depicts their end goal. Perhaps it is their god that they are trying to replicate or resurrect. They go from planet to planet (Petri dish to Petri dish) in order to cultivate varying specimens (civilizations that are different versions of themselves) and then enter hyper sleep in order to wait out the growth of these specimens until they are ripe for testing. I'm thinking the David realized this and unleashed their own experiment on them, or one of their various planets (since the people looked slightly different from both humans and Engineers), to show that he was taking over as the head of the experiment and attempt at recreating their God.
Walter should have been in charge and none of this would have happened.
I'm still wondering how David traveled back in time and gave the xenomorphs to the Predators who put them on earth in AVP.
AVP/AVPR are not canon.
Domgrath PW lol, It wasn't even considered canon at the time of release also
The Aliens Vs. Predator timeline is not canon in either Alien or Predator timelines. It exists within its own cinematic universe, which, in my opinion, should be expanded on a little more than it has been.
Senior Woodz their making a new Predator movie and then a new AVP is coming.
Buscapé Axé Or maybe AvP is just not canon. Why would anyone want that shit crossover to be canon anyway?
Ridley and his writing staff pay close attention to your comments. Producers need to know what path their future movies will take. Your insight is a blessing to Ridley.
Nice pace, lots of good ideas, but... as the whole premise of the movie is accuracy & attention to detail, I will make two comments, to wit; at 1.34 the caption includes it's with an apostrophe where none is needed - the apostrophe only appears in the abbreviation of it and is, not in the word used to indicate possession. Secondly, the first syllable of the word covenant is pronounced to rhyme with cup, not cop.
The above is meant in the spirit of cooperation, not criticism - keep up the Good Work! :-)
I find it ironic that people try to parse out the nuances and complexities of Ridley Scott's Alien lore, as though Scott has indicated he s capable of drafting such complexities. I mean, he can't even get the simplest construct right - that is, writing a believable human character. The crew of both the Prometheus and Covenant were ridiculously inept. Flight attendants on any airline are calmer and better trained for a crisis. That ability alone, in my opinion, obliterates any notion Scott is capable of what, say Frank Herbert is, when creating lore. Prometheus had promising lore potential, I thought (other than the inept human characters - I. mean, run sideways Vickers, if something circular is threatening to roll on top of you!), but Scott solidified himself as in over his head with this disastrous chapter. Most disappointing movie for me in years.
The original ALIEN in 1979 had some interesting hints of a backstory, but the later films just kept adding things to the plot that made no sense. I can just hear the writers' meetings: "what about this?" "no, what about this?" when all it boils down to how many ways aliens can burst through the skin of a human body.
great video thank u
David says why the xenomorph was in Prometheus in that epilogue they released, "banished the wolf..." The engineers had made the xenomorph before, revered it enough to make a mural of it, but were so afraid of its destructive potential they "banish" it; david now seeks to replicate it.
The way Ridley Scott chops and changes stories we will be lucky if we even see David in the next movie at all ! Spaceship crashes everybody killed ... Never Mind ... Get over it .... Here's another different story to ponder over, but dont ponder to long bcz the sequel to that one will have no bearing on what came before either !!
I had mixed feelings about this movie but it was still so entertaining. It was well directed and played out in such an interesting way, so its really not too hard for me to look past my complaints and look forward to a sequel.
anyone knows where dose the body building lab scene come from in this video?
I took the ending as David checkmated the crew to trust him and get back into their cryo pods (he could've killed them but he's shown many times he likes that checkmate. He did it to the captain, he did it to all of the crew), the horror of Daniels being knowing that he now has her and can now experiment on her body like he said he would, as well as he has the entire colony to do experiments on. I don't think hes going to pretend to be Walter and wake them all up, or well maybe he does but he has to hide his alien porn when they get to the colony.
the kiss between david and walter was the wierdest moment i've ever witnessed in a cinema...
Right it was just SO awkward and unexpected. I think though, because he kissed Daniels too, that he's somehow trying to test how human he and Walter are. And in any good test, you need a control group. He can measure Daniels' response against Walter's to see if it is actually a result of Walter being an android, or if there are other factors.
That American Witch I'm going with the latter ahahaha
No it's just David giving the Kiss of death, like one bonding moment before the kill.
They did this in the Blade Runner movie as well where the synthetic needed to have personal contact with his creator and kissed him, one intimate bonding before killing.
Ali Khan I loved it!
It's symbolic, like a Judas-kiss.
I would like to pitch a theory if i may. After watching covenant several times looking for clues and easter eggs it was there staring me in the face all the time. At the part in the firm where David thinks he has killed Walter please look at walters neck when the flute is removed, it self heals. At the end why would Walter staple his cuts when the flute wounds healed almost instantly. My theory is David disabled Walter and only took what information he needed to infiltrate the ship as Walter, as at the end he does not have Walters memory of the log cabin discussion. This leaves a few quandrys, will the engineers find Walter and revive him to find out what happened to the World where all the sub engineers lived? Will they try now persue David who poses as Walter to stop his grand scheme of things and will we finaly find out about the space jockey, the plot thickens. Please tell me what you think folks have a real good look at the flute stabbing scene then ask youself why would Walter need staples and not heal instantly like back on the planet.
But if Walter is shut down how did the fight occur between him and David as this was after that scene?
What's the name of the song playing throughout this whole video?
Actually you just made me watch Alien Covenant again.
When David kissed Walter in my mind I was thinking " Please make out"
SBB thank God it wasn't just me....
SBB me too
Android on the streets
Freak in the sheets
David actually infected Walter's body it's Walter's body but David's mind controlling Walter's body don't know the specifics but I'm pretty sure that's the only possibility
theory: the planet in Prometheus on which we assume was earth was actually lv 25 and the engineers like being David kills in the covenant was the product of that one engineer's scrafice.
how long do we have to wait for the next movie
I think It was Walter at the end. I believe that Walter, the update version of David, was sent by Weyland corp to find and destroy David and take over David's project. That was why the Covenant crew had an accident only weeks away from the Engineer planet. That was why the xenomorph on the Covenant ship did not recognize David. That was why the Mother granted full control of the Covenant ship to David, because Walter's true identity was David 2.0. When the xenomorph was killed by Daniels, David's expression was not sadness but disappointment, because David was Walter. I am 100% sure Daniels will return in Alien awakening, because Walter has no intention to kill his precious experimental hosts and possible xenomorph transporter needlessly.
Sangmin Lee Walter is dead and David put Daniel's to sleep.
First of all, I am sick of hearing people call those "beings" on that planet "Engineers"! They look completely different than the engineers in Prometheus. Their reaction to the ship was the type of reaction you would have when your so called "Gods" have returned. The whole city was built in the Engineers' honor. David killed this entire race due them being a creation of another, in his view, inferior species. He uses this to his advantage to perform his experiments. It's hilarious to me that we as humans can so easily pick out the slightest differences in each other, but can't seem to pick out the difference between two races that were specifically designed to look different on film. The race in ALIEN COVENANT is not the same race from PROMETHEUS. There will be more answers in 5 years, when they decide to make the next Alien movie and Sir Ridley is on his deathbed.
The corporation knew about what happened, the fact they pushed ahead was being they wanted to see what came of it. The very least they knew what happened and planned to use the creatures in some way.
Where is the scene from 7:00 from? I never seen it before.
WALTER VS DAVID FIGHT SCENE WAS SIMPLY BRILLIANT (LOVED IT) WALTER YOU'LL BE MISSED!!! (FIGHT SCENE WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE THIS) WALTER FIGHTING FOR US HUMANS AND DAVID WAS FIGHTING FOR THE XENOMORPHS
I'm not going to lie, I kind of prefer the Alien vs Predator continuity's mythology. Those movies were shit, don't get me wrong. But there's a simplicity to it's mythology that's appealing compared to the pretentious, pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical, pseudo-theological up-it's-own-ass-ness of the Prometheus/Covenant continuity that thinks it's so much deeper and more clever and meaningful than it really is. Instead, you've got an alien bioweapon, alien big-game hunters, and people caught in the middle.
FiendTheWhacked agreed. I see where Promethius was going,but covenant just....ruined it.
I like it.
And you are entitled to that opinion.
You're not alone in this world, buddy. Curious that Scott compared himself with Lucas lately because I think both happen to be frauds; they're the scrootie mcboogerballs of cinema: had fantastic teams once in the past creating designs and ideas they took credit for, and now they need to live up to the the myth.
FiendTheWhacked only the second avp was bad even really bad. But the first one on the other hand was an average action flick.
And the Aliens looked more believable than covenant thats fo sure.
At the beginning, are you saying it's a direct prequel
what's the name of the music in the background of the video???
"What Does The Ending Really Mean?" It means the movie sucked.
Alien Covenant was such an amazing film!
Blaze Warrior was it better than alien?
Yoav Cohen It wasn't better than Alien, but it was better than Prometheus and overall a great film👍
It was good but it wasn't better than Alien or Aliens. But then again how can you beat those great movies on top of (if you have it) nostalgia?
Ikr?
I totally agree Blaze Warrior, I don't get why theirs so much hate for it.
did canada and america get different versions? theres like 3 scenes in this that i didn't see when i watched it! and i saw it twice. whats going on here?
in the end of the movie in David's report he states that both Daniels and Tennessee both died in a sleep capsule malfunction, it is left for you to assume David killed them both shortly after putting them to sleep, which would cover up any suspicious activity to just a malfunction. good video tho
basicly this movie is crap and shits on the past movies...
Both Prometheus and Alien Covenant offer unnecessary information about the original Alien movie. Scott's prequel s are just like the Star Wars Prequels. They tell a story nobody really wanted to know
The prequels may had their flaws but built a whole new universe for the audience to explore and full of heroes and villains and new lore.
Something which Alien sequels can't manage yet.
Some people want new content instead of a rehash for nostalgia.
nah m8 everyone wants to know which idiot designed the death star.
I still think where the Alien prequels are concerned, the Space Jockey will be set up to be the savior on the human race. Someone who acted to stop the xenos being introduced to the populations of earth.
Bullshit. We have always wanted to know who the space jockey was and, how the aliens connected to the humanity, who created them. Speak to your own name, but not everyone's. I really really love the old Alien, but hey...this new philosophical line, i think its just great...not perfect of course, but very interesting.
When I first saw Covenant I was a bit disappointed because I expected : 1. more Aliens and 2. more Engineers. However, it is that story around David and his experiments which gave me back that certain subtle but powerful tension of the first two Alien-movies. Which made me check out the film again for another two times in the theatre.
I can safely say that I love both prequels for how they give audiences much insight into the creation of the Xenomorphs.
And am eager to follow the rest of this story too
Nicely thought out. Why would the Engineers (and/or David) want to create a creature that kills, why not a creature that creates? Were they fighting against some other life form that we have not seen yet? It seems that David, who values creation would want a creature that creates rather than destroys.
Answer: Ridley Scott doesn't care, money is his target, not a good story.
What a silly movie. I thought nothing could be as bad as prometheus, but I was wrong. More holes than a swish cheese.
I imagine Swish cheese is very fast.
I still didn't get it
It opened more questions than answers
Really confused
Could the distress call of Shaw actually be her trying to retain her humanity (and failing) mid-operation/changing?
it means the movie was shit and we dont need to spend money to go watch it
Everyone analizing Prometheus and Covenant when they are just two shitty films with scripts pulled out of someone's ass, a pathetic attempt to give the Aliens a deeper meaning or hidden mysticism which the original films never even needed.
The movie is the best
entropede both movies are genius
6:25 The reason he did this is that when he tested his creation out by letting it loose on the crew it died. So in his mind while he is close the Alien still needs to be perfected further. It has nothing to do with wanting humans to suffer
Engineer city lacks any technology and advanced infrastructure. Remove floating thingy (where did it disappear??) and you can picture of some Roman / Byzantine city. One my theory is that it wasnt Engineer planet at all but one of planets that they have seeded. Creatures on planet even look quite different compared to one in Prometheus.