Thank you for bringing back memories. I grew up around law enforcement officers in the 70's. Senior officers often carried Pythons and others carried Mod 19's. My friend carried a Diamondback as his dept. only allowed 38 revolvers. Autos were not permitted for carry at all. Those old revolvers were made by craftsmen who had pride in every gun that went out of the factory. Their fine accuracy rivals modern guns.
Thank you so much for watching, my friend! And for sharing your memories of these fine old pieces. I always thought the Diamondback was cool--like a smaller Python. I want to say Steve McQueen carried a snub Diamondback in Bullit? And I've found excellent accuracy in this gun. Would love to expand my revolver collection with some other classics. Thank you again and take care!
In the early 1980's I traded a practically brand-new Colt Trooper for a Python, and Colt Official Police for a Detective Special. Still have the Python and Detective Special, but wish I also had the other two. They are the last handguns I ever traded or sold.
Hey, at least you've got the Python and the Detective Special. Either way... I'm very happy to own this old pony. Thanks so much for watching and for comment.
@@HipsterTactical True, and love my Python and Detective Special. The thing about the other 2, you know how trading goes, I didn't get nearly what I paid for them. At the time I needed some money back to fund the other guns. I am not willing to do that anymore, as I would just rather keep the guns. I am like you and appreciate several different types of handguns for what they are, instead of chasing the latest, and greatest.
@@gracedagostino5231 Yeah, guns have a sentimental value--I think--that goes beyond what they're worth. For instance, I have a Smith & Wesson 6904 that's not particularly valuable, but... it saved my dog's life on a hike one day. I'll never sell it. And I'll always love it. Thanks again for the comment and for watching!
Glad to see Younger Men and Woman Picking up the Baton and Running with it! You bring up some great points about these Revolvers! It's also a Subject that I can relate to and many new commers to revolvers of the 20th Century! The last 23 years or so Everything has been Tactical and it was looking like revolvers were just considered a thing of the past. My first handgun was a Colt Python lightly used in Excellent Condition, I was 20 (1980)and was stabbed in a fight and wanted something to keep my Family safe, I still have it ! Now I have collected my favorite revolvers and still rounding out and balancing semi Autos and Revolvers! It's Fun to Live in America, People should start appreciating what We have! Thank You H.T.
Thank you so much, good sir! I'm fascinated by the guns I grew up seeing in movies and TV, back in the 80s when I grew up. So I always love hearing from people who have more of a first-hand perspective on using guns like these. Don't get me wrong--I like newer guns. But, generally speaking, classic guns feel a bit more "special." I'm sure that Python made you feel safe--I'd love to have a Python. Honestly, the newer ones seem very nice. Anyway... thanks again for the comment. And Happy Thanksgiving!
Haha! I AM the algorithm... for gun nerds, collectors and hipsters (though I think Forgotten Weapons owns that, at the moment). But thank you so much for watching and for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it. I learned a lot in writing this one. And... I learned that I dig my Colt Trooper.
@@HipsterTactical I'm a suckered for content like this especially six guns that came out around this time somthing about the history and looks these old revolvers have.
I DO HAVE A PRE-PYTHON. My pistol looks EXACTLY like what you have. It's ACTUALLY called the Colt 3-5-7, it HAS ALL THE HAND FITTING AND TLC that goes into the early production PYTHONS. They only made 15,000 total production 1953-1961, I have 2: 4" and 6". They are GREAT, SMOOTH ACTION and LIGHT CRISP TRIGGER. The Trooper was at the LOW END and the 3-5-7 was a Trooper with the TLC that later the Python model. So there was 3 choices and when Python came out it was the ODD MAN OUT. THEY ARE SHOOTERS. The NEW PYTHONS AREN'T IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS THE OLDER ONES AND THE 3-5-7.😉👍😁
Correct. Your .357 is the actual predecessor to the Python. It was Colt's premier revolver until the Python was introduced. The Trooper .357 was a less finely finished version intended to be a more affordable option for police.
It's AMAZING that not many people know about this pistol because of the limited production (about 15,000) which is quite LOW!! I've only shot my 6" version of that pistol (YET), IT'S A SHOOTER even though it's not all original (new style Python grips and Python cylinder/crane), but who ever did the work did a GREAT JOB. @grantamos6299
Yeah, I've heard of people doing that, actually. Brownell's has a pretty cool video on the Model .357 (same gun as mine) and they actually talk about doing that. I guess the top-front of the frame where it mates with the barrel is slightly taller on the Python, so you have to do some welding. But apparently it's a thing. Or at least it was... Thanks for chiming in, Frank!
Very nice as always...and look forward to some P9S action. There were mags on ebay I think he moved to GB.. and pick up that apungie part if needs replacing.
Hey dude! Thanks--and hope you're doing well. Unfortunately, I think the P9S vid is gonna be delayed. I attempted a buffer install on my own... can't get the damn thing back together. So, I'll probably have to send it to an armorer. But... I think I'm gonna do my Sig P245 next. Should be up your alley. Thanks as always!
There is just something to be said for those older revolvers. I used to own a S&W model 28 highway patrolman in black matte. No modern gun really has that look and feel, that can’t describe in words. Of course if I were to buy one again it would be a blued model 27. I’ve held a few Colt pythons at gun stores. But there is something about that blued older one you showed in this video. That older classical hand built manufacturing quality. Yes, I like that python.
Oh, nice! I handled a Model 28 recently at a local gun shop. It felt fantastic. Very smooth. The grip/trigger-reach felt about perfect. But yeah--I love a blued revovler, myself. Very happy to have this one. Thanks for the comment and for watching, as usual!
I own both 4" and 6" trooper my opinion better than the python they're a faster pointing gun really the last of their old style pre war looking revolvers Intended to be a duty gun not a target gun like the python Excellent video man keep it up
Thanks so much, man! I really appreciate it. Yeah, that's a great point--with less weight up front, I bet it does handle and transition between targets a little faster. I haven't actually shot a Python, but, I have shot a 686 (which also has the weight of the underlug) and I think there's definitely something to that. Thanks again and take care!
@HipsterTactical yeah I really can't wait to get it. It's not perfect but has some freckling so it'll be a shooter for sure but I was able to snag it for $777. They say that the nickel versions are more rare which proves true by how many blued ones I've seen compared to nickel. At least in the 1st gen troopers that is.
On my Trooper the lock up seems pretty close to within tollerance but.. it does spit more out of the BCG than most of my other smiths or Python. I believe that stretching the hand slightly... like 2 thou? still easier than fitting a new hand.
Yeah, I guess mine could use a tune up, too. But... it locks up straight every time because of the "bank vault" feature. The gunsmith who did the refinish said it was fine and not to worry about it. Nice guns. Thanks for the comment!
I love a python but for some reason I have never grown to like the look of a full underlug barrel on anything longer than 4”. I love me a python a snubby python. But the non lugged, exposed ejector rod of the 6” and longer barrel on these colt revolvers just looks retro sexy. There was a picture of a woman gunslinger from the late 19th early 20th century and I forgot her name (wasn’t Annie Oakley) but there was a rugged sexiness to it I couldn’t put my finger on. 6” or longer unlugged barrels on Colts or smiths are like that for me. 4” and shorter full lugged barrel guns remind me of Jane Russel in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
Haha. It's weird... but your comparison to women is totally on point: I get it. Personally, I'm not big on any revolver barrels over about 4 inches. 6 inch Pythons and 686s looks a little... ungainly to my eye. But I'll say the 6" 686 I shot was spectacularly accurate. Then again, so is this 4" Trooper. But yeah--the lugged 3" and 2.5" magnums definitely have a "buxom" look to them.
Very informative!! I have three Colts from the trooper in 66 to the police 36. Very informative. Thanks.. Those old Colts will only increase their value!
Interesting. Yeah, I've heard the MKIIIs were solid overall. Certainly modern MIM (which I think is sintered metal?) works well. But no revolvers is immune to certain issues. Thanks for the comment!
Nice, I bought a 1962 Trooper for spare parts for my 1974 Python. Cheaper to buy the Trooper than to pay for Python parts. They are essentially the same gun, excluding the barrel, as you say. But, the Trooper was so nice, I kept it as it is.
Haha. That sounds like something I'd do. I love the Trooper--it feels utilitarian... but still premium. I'm proud to own mine, for sure. Thanks for the comment!
Great history lesson. I have 6 Colts in 1911's and 2 from WW-1 and 2 . I recently bought a Colt peacemaker and was never Shot vintage 2000 . As well as 2 Cobra's in 2 " 38 spl and 357. I would love a Python like that was used in Magnum Force.
Wow! You have quite the collection. So cool you've got those old 1911s. I love this Trooper--love the old school feel. Though I'll say the newer ones feel pretty good, too. Thanks so much for the comment and for watching!
The "Trooper .357" was a more affordably priced version of the Colt ".357". The .357 (prior to the Python) was Colt's premier revolver. The "Trooper" was the popularly priced, adjustable sight version of the "Official Police", but was available in .38 Special only. Police agencies and police officers wanted .357 magnum revolvers, but the ".357" was out of reach for many of them. It is true that the Python and the Trooper .357 are built on the same frame/action, but the Trooper .357 is much less "refined" in fit and finish. The true "plain Jane" Python is the Colt ".357", which has the fit and finish, but not the sexed up barrel with useless vent rib and extended ejector rod shroud. ALL of the Colt pre-1969 revolvers are very finely made. The most accurate handgun I have ever fired is a Colt Officer's Model Match .38 Special revolver. The later MK III and MK V series are good, sturdy, duty handguns, at much more affordable prices. More like a Ruger in design, intent and function. Which is not a bad thing. My uncle was a Chicago police officer from 1951-1979. For as long as I can remember he carried a 4" Colt .357. I was a Chicago police officer from 1973-2009. I began my career carrying a 4" Colt Trooper MK III. Chicago officers have to buy their own handguns from the department's approved roster, so we have skin in the game. I still own all the duty guns I ever carried and my cousin was handed down his father's Colt .357. And FWIW, while the Python was on the approved roster of handguns for Chicago police, very few officers actually carried one. They were too expensive. Movies tend to depict the Python as a popular revolver for police officers...it just wasn't so.
Yeah, the lineage of the 3-5-7, the Python and the Trooper .357 is very interesting. Thank you for the added context. And that's really interesting insight from your LE career. I have heard the MKIII's were solid guns, like you say. I remember dry firing an MKV and thinking the DA trigger was very nice. Love Chicago, BTW. Thanks for the comment and for your service!
Sir, what grips are on that gun. I have a 1965 trooper, except it looks like yours in the pics before it was refinished. The action on mine is the nicest revolver action of all the revolvers I own. They are great blasters, thanks for any help!
I really want to take a current colt Anaconda and have someone make up a custom unlugged barrel just so I can have something that looks like a trooper 357 had a bigger younger brother
Haha. That would be pretty dope. The longer I have this gun… the more the unlugged barrel grows on me. It’s sexy in its own way, would love to get my hands on one of those anacondas though. Thanks for the comment!
@@HipsterTactical no problem. Personally I’m waiting for Colt to make a 4” anaconda but I’m growing impatient and those new Colt Actions are SOOOOOO good outta the box
Yeah, really are nice. I love the King Cobra 3”-good size for a handy carry gun, but still feels stout and substantial. They all seem to have that “bank vault” lockup feature, too. The Smiths are super nice, too… but the KC is right in my ballpark as far as size.
@@steveharvey6421No worries, man! I think Colt purposely made their model lines/names confusing. Thus, I don’t think a lot people realize how “Python-like” the 1960s Troopers really are.
Hey man, i enjoyed this video. It's hard to find information on this revolver. Im trying to find new wooden grips for mine and from what i hear python grips pre 2020 labeled i frame will fit. Is this true?
Thanks, dude! Appreciate you watching. And yeah-you’ve got it exactly right on pre-2020 Python grips. They should fit all I-frame Troopers. The grips on this one are from Altamont… for the old school Python. They fit perfectly. Thanks again!
I just bought one because I saw this video lol. It's a 67! Anyways that was yesterday but today I find out that the trigger will not reset unless it's forced and when I go to cock the hammer it will not stay back. What do you all think the problem is?
Oh, geez, that sucks! I don’t know my way around revolver actions that well. Could the mainspring be installed wrong? Or maybe there’s an issue with the sear if the hammer won’t stay back? Sorry for your troubles… but thanks for watching! I promise-it’s a solid gun once you get it straightened out. Looks like I’m already subbed to your channel… I’ll check out some of your vids, soon. Good luck!
@@HipsterTactical Good deal I appreciate that but I'm taking it to a competent gun smith this afternoon. I know it's still one of my favorite guns and will continue to be. You can see a picture of it on my community page next to my model 57. I'm still glad I got it definitely for 600$ it was a steal !
Another small difference between the Troopers and the original Pythons also had to do with the barrel. Python barrels had a very slight constriction near the muzzle that was the real secret of the Python's match grade accuracy. It was so much more accurate that for a while it was a fad to install a Python barrel on a S&W action which didn't have to be re-timed as often as a Python. They were referred to as either "Smolts" or "Smythons". The Troopers, being more duty oriented didn't have this feature but they still shot very well..
That's so interesting! That's a cool tidbit I've never come across in my frequent forum trolling. Cool to hear from someone who actually knows this stuff. I wonder if the new Pythons incorporate that feature? I would guess "no"--if it's something that can't done in a mass-produced way. Thanks again for the insight, my friend!
@@HipsterTactical Sure thing. Many years ago I competed in PPC shooting. Some guys chose the Python for that specifically because you didn't have to re-barrel it to shoot Master Class scores at 50 yards like you did with a Smith. But the Achilles' heel of the Python was that if you shot it a lot in double action (and PPC was all DA) it would go out of time every season or two. You just had to accept that between seasons it would have to be re-timed. Most of us got a S&W Model 10, and hung a barrel on it the size of a gas pipe. My PPC gun weighed in at 4.5 pounds, all to shoot a .38 Special 148 grain wadcutter that moved so slow that in the right lighting conditions you could see it in flight. I discovered your channel a week ago and now I am hooked. I actually owned most of the guns you have made videos on at one time or another, and remember when you could buy a clean HK P7 for about $600. Have you by any chance ever played with a Steyr GB? It was designed in 1968 but only became available to civilians in the US from 1982 to 1986. It was a big 9mm pistol with a then unheard of 18 round magazine. I think it would be right up your alley for a review. Take care, and keep up the good work.
Actually the Python was developed from the Trooper. Comparing the 2, the Python is a Corvette, the Trooper a pickup truck. They fill different niches. The Trooper never acquired the cachet of the Python but those in the know.....
I think that's a good whatever. And yes--you're right. The E-frame Troopers came first, then the I-Frame "Model .357"--which turned into the Trooper, when they released the Python. Thanks for the comment!
Just picked up a 1970 mkIII…it’s completely better made than my new python..fit, finish, action tightness is all about twice as nice. I was in love with my new python but this 53 year old gal just stomped the new girl into the dirt
That's amazing... but not entirely surprising. Old-school stuff has old-school build quality. That said, I liked the feel and the action of the new Colt revolvers. Sure--not really cut from the same cloth as the oldies, but smooth and solid feeling. My '65 Trooper is a little bit loose, honestly--until the trigger locks everything up. But, the thing is a tack driver. Thanks for the comment!
@@jstal6325 The Trooper MKIII and MKV use coil springs-the 1960s Troopers like mine use the V-Spring design, like the Python. I explain it all in the video. Thanks for the comment!
I happen to own both a Trooper and a Python. My Python is a 69 and the Trooper 75? on mine there is a full rib on to (not vented) What that did tho was made the front sight not look so odd even tho it is the same. I actually like the front sight on the Trooper more than the Python the Trooper front is a hybrid of a ramp and a patridge. Python is a true ramp and they don't work for me. I managed to find a factory Python 'target' sight it is held in place with 2 pins while the Trooper is only one you used to be able to buy Colt or Smith 1917's at gun shows for really cheap. the Colt was bigger all around and clunky IMO. The Trooper and the Python are somewhere between the 'K' and 'L' frame guns It is hard to not think the 'L' frame is almost a shameless copy of the Pythyon Apparently the Python originally was meant to be a high end 38 spl target/competition gun. bullseye type competitions were real popular and the 'Python' had a tapered bore because of that.. it was meant ot compete with the model 14 Smith... But... Colt needed a .357 about lock up... I also have a 1905 38 long Colt... it is a nightmare and I am still thinking on it but it is badly out of time and I don't feel I can tackle it yet.
Nice! Sounds like you've got a Trooper MKIII. Different action than the original Trooper 357 and the Python... but really nice guns from what I hear. And yeah, the "Trooper" was originally chambered in .38 Special, then they beefed it up to handle .357 Magnum. That gave us the "Colt 357" in 1953, which became the Trooper 357 in 1961. The Python came in 1955, as a "spiffed up" version of the 357. Several other people have noted the tapered barrel on the Python... that's something I wasn't aware of. Thanks so much for the comment!
@@RevolverTv I actually loaned her to my dad. He sleeps soundly with her on his nightstand. But I need to get her out to the range again next time I’m up at the parents’ place.
Thanks, man! I really appreciate it. Appreciate the sub as well. I try to keep it fun and entertaining... I mean, that's why we love firearms. Thanks again and take care.
Thank you for bringing back memories. I grew up around law enforcement officers in the 70's. Senior officers often carried Pythons and others carried Mod 19's. My friend carried a Diamondback as his dept. only allowed 38 revolvers. Autos were not permitted for carry at all. Those old revolvers were made by craftsmen who had pride in every gun that went out of the factory. Their fine accuracy rivals modern guns.
Thank you so much for watching, my friend! And for sharing your memories of these fine old pieces. I always thought the Diamondback was cool--like a smaller Python. I want to say Steve McQueen carried a snub Diamondback in Bullit? And I've found excellent accuracy in this gun. Would love to expand my revolver collection with some other classics. Thank you again and take care!
In the early 1980's I traded a practically brand-new Colt Trooper for a Python, and Colt Official Police for a Detective Special. Still have the Python and Detective Special, but wish I also had the other two. They are the last handguns I ever traded or sold.
Hey, at least you've got the Python and the Detective Special. Either way... I'm very happy to own this old pony. Thanks so much for watching and for comment.
@@HipsterTactical True, and love my Python and Detective Special. The thing about the other 2, you know how trading goes, I didn't get nearly what I paid for them. At the time I needed some money back to fund the other guns. I am not willing to do that anymore, as I would just rather keep the guns. I am like you and appreciate several different types of handguns for what they are, instead of chasing the latest, and greatest.
@@gracedagostino5231 Yeah, guns have a sentimental value--I think--that goes beyond what they're worth. For instance, I have a Smith & Wesson 6904 that's not particularly valuable, but... it saved my dog's life on a hike one day. I'll never sell it. And I'll always love it. Thanks again for the comment and for watching!
Glad to see Younger Men and Woman Picking up the Baton and Running with it! You bring up some great points about these Revolvers! It's also a Subject that I can relate to and many new commers to revolvers of the 20th Century! The last 23 years or so Everything has been Tactical and it was looking like revolvers were just considered a thing of the past. My first handgun was a Colt Python lightly used in Excellent Condition, I was 20 (1980)and was stabbed in a fight and wanted something to keep my Family safe, I still have it ! Now I have collected my favorite revolvers and still rounding out and balancing semi Autos and Revolvers! It's Fun to Live in America, People should start appreciating what We have! Thank You H.T.
Thank you so much, good sir! I'm fascinated by the guns I grew up seeing in movies and TV, back in the 80s when I grew up. So I always love hearing from people who have more of a first-hand perspective on using guns like these. Don't get me wrong--I like newer guns. But, generally speaking, classic guns feel a bit more "special." I'm sure that Python made you feel safe--I'd love to have a Python. Honestly, the newer ones seem very nice. Anyway... thanks again for the comment. And Happy Thanksgiving!
I think the officers model match 38 special from that era are pretty cool too. Sometimes you can find those too for great prices as well
A 30 min video about the colt trooper. Why yes algorithm I do believe I will watch that. Great video.
Haha! I AM the algorithm... for gun nerds, collectors and hipsters (though I think Forgotten Weapons owns that, at the moment). But thank you so much for watching and for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it. I learned a lot in writing this one. And... I learned that I dig my Colt Trooper.
@@HipsterTactical I'm a suckered for content like this especially six guns that came out around this time somthing about the history and looks these old revolvers have.
Plain Jane? I wish I had a girlfriend that looked as good as that gun.
Hahaha. Well played, sir. I'd say "me too"... but my wife is Colt I-Frame material :)
@@HipsterTactical Lucky you!
Great in depth review. Keep on dude!!
Thanks, my friend! I appreciate it! I'm gonna keep 'em comin'. Until someone pays me... haha.
I DO HAVE A PRE-PYTHON. My pistol looks EXACTLY like what you have. It's ACTUALLY called the Colt 3-5-7, it HAS ALL THE HAND FITTING AND TLC that goes into the early production PYTHONS. They only made 15,000 total production 1953-1961, I have 2: 4" and 6". They are GREAT, SMOOTH ACTION and LIGHT CRISP TRIGGER. The Trooper was at the LOW END and the 3-5-7 was a Trooper with the TLC that later the Python model. So there was 3 choices and when Python came out it was the ODD MAN OUT. THEY ARE SHOOTERS. The NEW PYTHONS AREN'T IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS THE OLDER ONES AND THE 3-5-7.😉👍😁
nice! your's is worth a pretty penny, one auctioned at Rock Island Auctions for nearly 3 grand afew years ago.
Correct. Your .357 is the actual predecessor to the Python. It was Colt's premier revolver until the Python was introduced.
The Trooper .357 was a less finely finished version intended to be a more affordable option for police.
It's AMAZING that not many people know about this pistol because of the limited production (about 15,000) which is quite LOW!! I've only shot my 6" version of that pistol (YET), IT'S A SHOOTER even though it's not all original (new style Python grips and Python cylinder/crane), but who ever did the work did a GREAT JOB. @grantamos6299
Very Nice! I wonder if anyone has screwed a Python barrel onto a Trooper.
Yeah, I've heard of people doing that, actually. Brownell's has a pretty cool video on the Model .357 (same gun as mine) and they actually talk about doing that. I guess the top-front of the frame where it mates with the barrel is slightly taller on the Python, so you have to do some welding. But apparently it's a thing. Or at least it was... Thanks for chiming in, Frank!
Yeah, isn't it called the BOA? 😉
Very nice as always...and look forward to some P9S action. There were mags on ebay I think he moved to GB.. and pick up that apungie part if needs replacing.
Hey dude! Thanks--and hope you're doing well. Unfortunately, I think the P9S vid is gonna be delayed. I attempted a buffer install on my own... can't get the damn thing back together. So, I'll probably have to send it to an armorer. But... I think I'm gonna do my Sig P245 next. Should be up your alley. Thanks as always!
very educational.
Thanks! I learned a lot on this one as well.
There is just something to be said for those older revolvers. I used to own a S&W model 28 highway patrolman in black matte. No modern gun really has that look and feel, that can’t describe in words. Of course if I were to buy one again it would be a blued model 27.
I’ve held a few Colt pythons at gun stores. But there is something about that blued older one you showed in this video.
That older classical hand built manufacturing quality.
Yes, I like that python.
Oh, nice! I handled a Model 28 recently at a local gun shop. It felt fantastic. Very smooth. The grip/trigger-reach felt about perfect. But yeah--I love a blued revovler, myself. Very happy to have this one. Thanks for the comment and for watching, as usual!
I own both 4" and 6" trooper my opinion better than the python they're a faster pointing gun really the last of their old style pre war looking revolvers Intended to be a duty gun not a target gun like the python Excellent video man keep it up
Thanks so much, man! I really appreciate it. Yeah, that's a great point--with less weight up front, I bet it does handle and transition between targets a little faster. I haven't actually shot a Python, but, I have shot a 686 (which also has the weight of the underlug) and I think there's definitely something to that. Thanks again and take care!
I sold my blued one and bought a nickel 4 inch version. It was made in 1965 too. I'm just waiting on it to get to my FFL
Ohhh nice! I’ll keep an eye out in your channel for it. Thanks!
@HipsterTactical yeah I really can't wait to get it. It's not perfect but has some freckling so it'll be a shooter for sure but I was able to snag it for $777. They say that the nickel versions are more rare which proves true by how many blued ones I've seen compared to nickel. At least in the 1st gen troopers that is.
On my Trooper the lock up seems pretty close to within tollerance but.. it does spit more out of the BCG than most of my other smiths or Python. I believe that stretching the hand slightly... like 2 thou? still easier than fitting a new hand.
Yeah, I guess mine could use a tune up, too. But... it locks up straight every time because of the "bank vault" feature. The gunsmith who did the refinish said it was fine and not to worry about it. Nice guns. Thanks for the comment!
I love a python but for some reason I have never grown to like the look of a full underlug barrel on anything longer than 4”. I love me a python a snubby python. But the non lugged, exposed ejector rod of the 6” and longer barrel on these colt revolvers just looks retro sexy. There was a picture of a woman gunslinger from the late 19th early 20th century and I forgot her name (wasn’t Annie Oakley) but there was a rugged sexiness to it I couldn’t put my finger on. 6” or longer unlugged barrels on Colts or smiths are like that for me. 4” and shorter full lugged barrel guns remind me of Jane Russel in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
Haha. It's weird... but your comparison to women is totally on point: I get it. Personally, I'm not big on any revolver barrels over about 4 inches. 6 inch Pythons and 686s looks a little... ungainly to my eye. But I'll say the 6" 686 I shot was spectacularly accurate. Then again, so is this 4" Trooper. But yeah--the lugged 3" and 2.5" magnums definitely have a "buxom" look to them.
Very informative!! I have three Colts from the trooper in 66 to the police 36. Very informative. Thanks.. Those old Colts will only increase their value!
Thank you, sir! Yup, they're great guns. I learned a lot doing this review and appreciate these old guns even more. Thanks!
I had three MKIII Colts. They all had different problems, but none of the problems were related to the sintered metal internals.
Interesting. Yeah, I've heard the MKIIIs were solid overall. Certainly modern MIM (which I think is sintered metal?) works well. But no revolvers is immune to certain issues. Thanks for the comment!
Nice gun. I just bought a new python 3" and cool to see how it compares.
Oh niiice! I personally think the new Colts feel great. Congrats, my man!
Nice, I bought a 1962 Trooper for spare parts for my 1974 Python. Cheaper to buy the Trooper than to pay for Python parts. They are essentially the same gun, excluding the barrel, as you say. But, the Trooper was so nice, I kept it as it is.
Haha. That sounds like something I'd do. I love the Trooper--it feels utilitarian... but still premium. I'm proud to own mine, for sure. Thanks for the comment!
Great history lesson. I have 6 Colts in 1911's and 2 from WW-1 and 2 . I recently bought a Colt peacemaker and was never Shot vintage 2000 . As well as 2 Cobra's in 2 " 38 spl and 357. I would love a Python like that was used in Magnum Force.
Wow! You have quite the collection. So cool you've got those old 1911s. I love this Trooper--love the old school feel. Though I'll say the newer ones feel pretty good, too. Thanks so much for the comment and for watching!
@@HipsterTactical it's a disease
Love the Trooper!!! I have the .22 Magnum Trooper as well! Two of my favorite Colts!🇺🇸
Ohh, nice! I bet that's a nice shooter in .22 mag. The .357 is great, either way. Thanks!
I've got Colt and S&W revolvers over the many years of collecting and shooting and feel that the more they are shot the smother they become.
This one is definitely smooth. And it has definitely seen some rounds. Still feels like a "regal" weapon in the hand. Thanks so much for the comment!
The "Trooper .357" was a more affordably priced version of the Colt ".357". The .357 (prior to the Python) was Colt's premier revolver. The "Trooper" was the popularly priced, adjustable sight version of the "Official Police", but was available in .38 Special only.
Police agencies and police officers wanted .357 magnum revolvers, but the ".357" was out of reach for many of them.
It is true that the Python and the Trooper .357 are built on the same frame/action, but the Trooper .357 is much less "refined" in fit and finish.
The true "plain Jane" Python is the Colt ".357", which has the fit and finish, but not the sexed up barrel with useless vent rib and extended ejector rod shroud.
ALL of the Colt pre-1969 revolvers are very finely made. The most accurate handgun I have ever fired is a Colt Officer's Model Match .38 Special revolver.
The later MK III and MK V series are good, sturdy, duty handguns, at much more affordable prices. More like a Ruger in design, intent and function. Which is not a bad thing.
My uncle was a Chicago police officer from 1951-1979. For as long as I can remember he carried a 4" Colt .357. I was a Chicago police officer from 1973-2009. I began my career carrying a 4" Colt Trooper MK III. Chicago officers have to buy their own handguns from the department's approved roster, so we have skin in the game. I still own all the duty guns I ever carried and my cousin was handed down his father's Colt .357.
And FWIW, while the Python was on the approved roster of handguns for Chicago police, very few officers actually carried one. They were too expensive. Movies tend to depict the Python as a popular revolver for police officers...it just wasn't so.
Yeah, the lineage of the 3-5-7, the Python and the Trooper .357 is very interesting. Thank you for the added context. And that's really interesting insight from your LE career. I have heard the MKIII's were solid guns, like you say. I remember dry firing an MKV and thinking the DA trigger was very nice. Love Chicago, BTW. Thanks for the comment and for your service!
Sir, what grips are on that gun. I have a 1965 trooper, except it looks like yours in the pics before it was refinished. The action on mine is the nicest revolver action of all the revolvers I own. They are great blasters, thanks for any help!
They are Altamont grips, for the Python. Yeah, they are great shooters! Thanks!
@@HipsterTactical thank you sir, I was hoping that was the answer. Very much appreciated.
I really want to take a current colt Anaconda and have someone make up a custom unlugged barrel just so I can have something that looks like a trooper 357 had a bigger younger brother
Haha. That would be pretty dope. The longer I have this gun… the more the unlugged barrel grows on me. It’s sexy in its own way, would love to get my hands on one of those anacondas though. Thanks for the comment!
@@HipsterTactical no problem. Personally I’m waiting for Colt to make a 4” anaconda but I’m growing impatient and those new Colt Actions are SOOOOOO good outta the box
Yeah, really are nice. I love the King Cobra 3”-good size for a handy carry gun, but still feels stout and substantial. They all seem to have that “bank vault” lockup feature, too. The Smiths are super nice, too… but the KC is right in my ballpark as far as size.
I have a trooper 357. It was my late dads service revolver. It's a nice revolver!
It is my understanding that these guns had sintered parts instead of forged parts. This was a really puts them out of the status of a fine gun.
The Trooper MKIIIs and MKVs had sintered parts. Different guns entirely from this gun. I cover it in the review. Thanks!
@@HipsterTactical You know more than me thanks
@@steveharvey6421No worries, man! I think Colt purposely made their model lines/names confusing. Thus, I don’t think a lot people realize how “Python-like” the 1960s Troopers really are.
Hey man, i enjoyed this video. It's hard to find information on this revolver. Im trying to find new wooden grips for mine and from what i hear python grips pre 2020 labeled i frame will fit. Is this true?
Thanks, dude! Appreciate you watching. And yeah-you’ve got it exactly right on pre-2020 Python grips. They should fit all I-frame Troopers. The grips on this one are from Altamont… for the old school Python. They fit perfectly. Thanks again!
are you aware of any brands that make a laser (side mount or built into hand grips) for the trooper?
I'm not 100% sure. But I didn't Google it. Though any grips that fit an original Python will fit one of these old Trooper .357s.
Fewer people still have a colt lawman as well.
Oh, yeah. Those seem cool. They're based on the MKIII design, right?
@@HipsterTactical yes. The pre gun to the trooper
I just bought one because I saw this video lol. It's a 67! Anyways that was yesterday but today I find out that the trigger will not reset unless it's forced and when I go to cock the hammer it will not stay back. What do you all think the problem is?
Oh, geez, that sucks! I don’t know my way around revolver actions that well. Could the mainspring be installed wrong? Or maybe there’s an issue with the sear if the hammer won’t stay back? Sorry for your troubles… but thanks for watching! I promise-it’s a solid gun once you get it straightened out. Looks like I’m already subbed to your channel… I’ll check out some of your vids, soon. Good luck!
@@HipsterTactical Good deal I appreciate that but I'm taking it to a competent gun smith this afternoon. I know it's still one of my favorite guns and will continue to be. You can see a picture of it on my community page next to my model 57. I'm still glad I got it definitely for 600$ it was a steal !
Are 357 magnums not as hot as they use to be?
I’m not sure. I never shot .357 mags until about 2018. But… they certainly feel powerful to me.
Muy linda explicación pero lástima que no estén traducido 😮
Gracias, mi amigo… y los ciento para no traducir. Yo espero TH-cam tiene traducir en el future. Los ciento tambien para mi espanol muy terible. 😊
The Trooper is to the Python, what the Smith and Wesson Model 28 is to the Model 27.
That is a perfect analogy. I held a 28 at my LGS... really nice-feeling gun. Almost went home with it. Thanks for the comment!
Another small difference between the Troopers and the original Pythons also had to do with the barrel. Python barrels had a very slight constriction near the muzzle that was the real secret of the Python's match grade accuracy. It was so much more accurate that for a while it was a fad to install a Python barrel on a S&W action which didn't have to be re-timed as often as a Python. They were referred to as either "Smolts" or "Smythons". The Troopers, being more duty oriented didn't have this feature but they still shot very well..
That's so interesting! That's a cool tidbit I've never come across in my frequent forum trolling. Cool to hear from someone who actually knows this stuff. I wonder if the new Pythons incorporate that feature? I would guess "no"--if it's something that can't done in a mass-produced way. Thanks again for the insight, my friend!
@@HipsterTactical Sure thing. Many years ago I competed in PPC shooting. Some guys chose the Python for that specifically because you didn't have to re-barrel it to shoot Master Class scores at 50 yards like you did with a Smith. But the Achilles' heel of the Python was that if you shot it a lot in double action (and PPC was all DA) it would go out of time every season or two. You just had to accept that between seasons it would have to be re-timed. Most of us got a S&W Model 10, and hung a barrel on it the size of a gas pipe. My PPC gun weighed in at 4.5 pounds, all to shoot a .38 Special 148 grain wadcutter that moved so slow that in the right lighting conditions you could see it in flight.
I discovered your channel a week ago and now I am hooked. I actually owned most of the guns you have made videos on at one time or another, and remember when you could buy a clean HK P7 for about $600. Have you by any chance ever played with a Steyr GB? It was designed in 1968 but only became available to civilians in the US from 1982 to 1986. It was a big 9mm pistol with a then unheard of 18 round magazine. I think it would be right up your alley for a review. Take care, and keep up the good work.
Will it run moon clips?
I'm pretty sure the older Pythons had to be modified for moon clips. So, I'm 99% sure it'd be the same deal with an I-Frame Trooper. Thanks!
Actually the Python was developed from the Trooper. Comparing the 2, the Python is a Corvette, the Trooper a pickup truck. They fill different niches. The Trooper never acquired the cachet of the Python but those in the know.....
I think that's a good whatever. And yes--you're right. The E-frame Troopers came first, then the I-Frame "Model .357"--which turned into the Trooper, when they released the Python. Thanks for the comment!
I like it
Thank you, sir! I appreciate it.
Just picked up a 1970 mkIII…it’s completely better made than my new python..fit, finish, action tightness is all about twice as nice. I was in love with my new python but this 53 year old gal just stomped the new girl into the dirt
That's amazing... but not entirely surprising. Old-school stuff has old-school build quality. That said, I liked the feel and the action of the new Colt revolvers. Sure--not really cut from the same cloth as the oldies, but smooth and solid feeling. My '65 Trooper is a little bit loose, honestly--until the trigger locks everything up. But, the thing is a tack driver. Thanks for the comment!
Wheel guns are cool. I would know...my EDC is a wheel gun chambered in a man's cartridge...the .44 Magnum!
It has total different lock work.
Not sure what you mean, bro. Your statement needs context.
Trooper uses coil spring python v type spring. I've owned 3 colt troopers. Great guns.
@@jstal6325 The Trooper MKIII and MKV use coil springs-the 1960s Troopers like mine use the V-Spring design, like the Python. I explain it all in the video. Thanks for the comment!
I happen to own both a Trooper and a Python. My Python is a 69 and the Trooper 75? on mine there is a full rib on to (not vented) What that did tho was made the front sight not look so odd even tho it is the same. I actually like the front sight on the Trooper more than the Python the Trooper front is a hybrid of a ramp and a patridge. Python is a true ramp and they don't work for me. I managed to find a factory Python 'target' sight it is held in place with 2 pins while the Trooper is only one you used to be able to buy Colt or Smith 1917's at gun shows for really cheap. the Colt was bigger all around and clunky IMO. The Trooper and the Python are somewhere between the 'K' and 'L' frame guns It is hard to not think the 'L' frame is almost a shameless copy of the Pythyon Apparently the Python originally was meant to be a high end 38 spl target/competition gun. bullseye type competitions were real popular and the 'Python' had a tapered bore because of that.. it was meant ot compete with the model 14 Smith... But... Colt needed a .357 about lock up... I also have a 1905 38 long Colt... it is a nightmare and I am still thinking on it but it is badly out of time and I don't feel I can tackle it yet.
Nice! Sounds like you've got a Trooper MKIII. Different action than the original Trooper 357 and the Python... but really nice guns from what I hear. And yeah, the "Trooper" was originally chambered in .38 Special, then they beefed it up to handle .357 Magnum. That gave us the "Colt 357" in 1953, which became the Trooper 357 in 1961. The Python came in 1955, as a "spiffed up" version of the 357. Several other people have noted the tapered barrel on the Python... that's something I wasn't aware of. Thanks so much for the comment!
You still shootin that bad girl?
@@RevolverTv I actually loaned her to my dad. He sleeps soundly with her on his nightstand. But I need to get her out to the range again next time I’m up at the parents’ place.
@HipsterTactical yeah please do. Please make a range video of it!
Love your relax non political reviews 👍
Thanks, man! I really appreciate it. Appreciate the sub as well. I try to keep it fun and entertaining... I mean, that's why we love firearms. Thanks again and take care.
Thanks for the info about this colt lol the sister 😂
Great video. Personally, I think the Trooper has more sex appeal than the Phython.
Sorry it wasn't, you weren't even born when the trooper and python were introduced
Wasn’t what?