I’m confused u measured the shock at 13” with limit strap now if u add the 1.5” stretch u calculated you will extended the shock .5” past what it should do and damage the shock
Your adding all the stretch back to the length. The strap has already stretched and after the stretch is at 13. The fabric will the stretch out over time, but the weave of the fabric will end up maxing out. So, it makes sense. There is already some stretch occurring. That’s why you can’t add the total stretch back to the length you see now.
Did you use a special bolt? Or is the nut and bolt left a little loose to allow swivel on the strap ends? Just concerned about causing bolt holes to turn oval on the tabs with time.
A bolt should never oval out a hole if the nut and bolt are torqued properly. If the torque needed to keep the bolt and nut torque exceeds the torque rating of the bolt, then you need to go to a bolt diameter that is adequate to handle the larger amount of torque.
You said to make sure the mounts are set up so that the strap will be vertical and pull in a straight line and failed to do it yourself. You could have made it closer to straight by simply putting the lower end of the strap on on the other side of the mount. And by your own math the shock is still going to be able to travel past its max length by .04 so there's no safety margin.
I thought the same thing. Technically you'd be correct. It seems better to order a shorter 16" or 16.5" strap so we have that safety margin. Otherwise what's the point if the shock would snap 1st. My only other idea is that... that 1.54" of stretch happens slow and easy enough to absorb the "shock". Maybe the last 0.04" is insignificant for slow articulation. Idk 🤷♂️ Or do something like this 👇😁👇 www.carid.com/steinjager/adjustable-limit-strap-mounts-mpn-j0045848.html?view=396094&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyqzBrszx6QIVcz2tBh2f9ws6EAQYAiABEgIxT_D_BwE
@@xmo552 I think that .04 potential is probably insignificant too, but I'm not a suspension pro and he's the one saying that you should have a safety margin. That said, I've driven and seen several vehicles from mild to wild with no limit straps and no apparent shock damage. In a slow speed rock crawler type rig it'll be less of an issue than something that's going high speed and catching air, but I've driven a couple that did that without straps. Factory vehicles never have straps and those shocks survive. While most stock vehicles aren't driven in a way that would fully extend the shocks, some are. The biggest reason I've seen for straps is to protect other stuff. My friend's high dollar JK build ate 3 Dana 60 front diffs because the front end would droop enough to cause U-joint bind. Nobody had figured out why it was happening and just kept fixing the diff. assuming something had been assembled wrong. After I jumped it and it ate the 3rd diff I checked it out and discovered the cause. My Jeep will go into bind in the rear well before the shocks top out so I'll have to do something about it before I do anything crazy. I'll use a single center mounted strap so that it limits total droop without limiting articulation, there's already one in the front.
Simple and to the point! Great video
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I’m confused u measured the shock at 13” with limit strap now if u add the 1.5” stretch u calculated you will extended the shock .5” past what it should do and damage the shock
yep
Your adding all the stretch back to the length. The strap has already stretched and after the stretch is at 13. The fabric will the stretch out over time, but the weave of the fabric will end up maxing out. So, it makes sense. There is already some stretch occurring. That’s why you can’t add the total stretch back to the length you see now.
Great video! Y'all keep it up!
Did you use a special bolt? Or is the nut and bolt left a little loose to allow swivel on the strap ends? Just concerned about causing bolt holes to turn oval on the tabs with time.
A bolt should never oval out a hole if the nut and bolt are torqued properly. If the torque needed to keep the bolt and nut torque exceeds the torque rating of the bolt, then you need to go to a bolt diameter that is adequate to handle the larger amount of torque.
Probably stupid question. Is it possible to do coilovers with the stock control arms suspension on a Jeep TJ?
yes
why wouldnt it be possible
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Is every strap expected to stretch? Why not just get multiple straps to help prevent the stretch?
there ment to stretch to prevent snapping
You said to make sure the mounts are set up so that the strap will be vertical and pull in a straight line and failed to do it yourself. You could have made it closer to straight by simply putting the lower end of the strap on on the other side of the mount. And by your own math the shock is still going to be able to travel past its max length by .04 so there's no safety margin.
I thought the same thing. Technically you'd be correct. It seems better to order a shorter 16" or 16.5" strap so we have that safety margin. Otherwise what's the point if the shock would snap 1st.
My only other idea is that... that 1.54" of stretch happens slow and easy enough to absorb the "shock". Maybe the last 0.04" is insignificant for slow articulation.
Idk 🤷♂️
Or do something like this
👇😁👇
www.carid.com/steinjager/adjustable-limit-strap-mounts-mpn-j0045848.html?view=396094&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyqzBrszx6QIVcz2tBh2f9ws6EAQYAiABEgIxT_D_BwE
@@xmo552 I think that .04 potential is probably insignificant too, but I'm not a suspension pro and he's the one saying that you should have a safety margin. That said, I've driven and seen several vehicles from mild to wild with no limit straps and no apparent shock damage. In a slow speed rock crawler type rig it'll be less of an issue than something that's going high speed and catching air, but I've driven a couple that did that without straps. Factory vehicles never have straps and those shocks survive. While most stock vehicles aren't driven in a way that would fully extend the shocks, some are.
The biggest reason I've seen for straps is to protect other stuff. My friend's high dollar JK build ate 3 Dana 60 front diffs because the front end would droop enough to cause U-joint bind. Nobody had figured out why it was happening and just kept fixing the diff. assuming something had been assembled wrong. After I jumped it and it ate the 3rd diff I checked it out and discovered the cause. My Jeep will go into bind in the rear well before the shocks top out so I'll have to do something about it before I do anything crazy. I'll use a single center mounted strap so that it limits total droop without limiting articulation, there's already one in the front.
@@DonziGT230
Right on! 👍