Zelectric 1968 Porsche 912 | Jay Leno's Garage
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- David Benardo and Trent Wonsley walk Jay through how they convert a 1968 Porsche into a fully electric sports car.
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A Delorean would be perfect for electric conversion. It would finally go as fast as it looks.
already been done
@@krusher74 Is someone manufacturing the conversion kits? I would love an electric Delorean (or older 911). Better performance than the gas version and a lot less work to keep them running.
@@krusher74 - not much tho. DMC Houston prototyped a single one - but I've yet to see it go into full production.
DeLoreans were obnoxiously heavy. Nobody would mind a customization along those lines, tho. Or any other customization either.
@@ACTSRevolution There 'was' a group in Cincinnati which could upgrade the chassis to stainless steel (making it corrosion proof - as the epoxy coated steel could / would allow moisture in depending on location and time). I'm not sure if they're 'still' offering that service but I'd be curious how much weight would be shaved off if they did / could.
It was great to hear that engineer talk during the drive. He was committed, enthusiastic and knew what he was talking about. I love it when I can learn something by watching.
Hear hear, nice commented I was thinking the same but you worded it very nicely
@@raydejong4020 Totally agree!
Great comment, nailed it.
I mean he sounds like a serial killer
@@Docstantinople he tries really hard to look normal.
That was one of the best conversations between Jay and his guest passenger,
I can ever remember. They both contributed a wealth of knowledge.
What I enjoyed the most? Two guys having car talk in a cool car and we were along for the ride.
What I enjoyed least?
Battery talk.
I do like Jay Leno. He's a proper car guy. He asks intelligent questions and comes out with intelligent anecdotes. He's got the money and the sense to match.
Jay is a carguy
“There’s more weight up front than there was originally”
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Porsche guys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
A Hungarian bloke built an electric 912 with the same weight and balance as the original.
It was intented to give back the same feedback as the original one, only electric.
The base car of the build had an engine fire before.
I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind wouldn't want better weight distribution. A guy in England did an electric VW beetle with a Tesla motor with the battery up front and it has perfect weight distribution and he says it handles great. Here's the VW video. I wish Jay had have driven the Porsche the way the guy in this video drives the beetle.
Start at 18:45
th-cam.com/video/DXGKt8sK8CQ/w-d-xo.html
@@plane_guy6051 I followed that build, if you can please check out Guy Martin's video about that Beetle.
He is a great lad.
But the reason is because he (the hungarian guy) wanted the same feel what you got and love in an old air-cooled Porsche.
And if we talkng about perfect balance, they did the same, the battery is in the front, but everything else (inverter, motor, etc.) are in the back.
It has a 48-52% front-back weight distribution.
The 912 had a smaller and lighter engine so it had a better balance than the 911.
More weight up front on these old Porsche's is probably great. The rear ends tended to have a mind of its own at high speeds and killed many because of the weight distribution and no traction control.
@@MrDownRater Didn't Henry Catchpole just review an identical car to this a couple days ago?
Glad you invited him back. One of the best conversations while driving you have ever had.
Remind me what episode and car was featured before. I been trying to find it.
a good one!
Loved the banter between those two, proper car guys conversation without any marketing BS.
Agreed!
@@BadBlonde-CarHistory just checked your channel, awesome car stuff 👌🏾
@@roshangomez I'm just lucky to have been born a mechanic's daughter 🙌
You know what, I like these guys. They know what they're talking about . You can tell they are passionate about what they do. There's no bs here . Rare. Some of the previous guests have been nothing more than used car salesman. Bad ones at that. I hope they do well for themselves. They deserve it.
Agreed
Funny, I wouldn’t buy a toaster from either of these dudes. Car looks like them. 😴
@@jonascameron
I'll take this over a Toastler if given the choice.
They're doing just fine.....they charge almost $90k for the conversion, this car was for sale again for $175,000
@@ArtVandelayOfficial //
Great name. The fictional company was said to manufacture and sell latex and latex-related products.
I love how Jay appreciates all cars
Same!
Yep, I bet Jay would appreciate a Yugo if he drove it. He appreciates life.
All cars have a great history. No matter how sh!ty the car may be.
I wish more car guys had the same attitude.
@@darkrain2493 Yep. It was not long ago when it was a luxury to own a horse. Cars are blip on the radar. Just imagine the wonder when the Ford Model T started rolling off the assembly line. Ever since we've been spoiled for choice. There's always something better around the corner. You are what you drive. Our values are screwed up.
So refreshing to have the dialogue between Jay and the engineer / enthusiast, instead of the CEO / salesman. Mutual respect.
Agreed
I like how the rear sits when Jay puts his foot in it.
19:29 for an example
Taycan is the evoloution of that where it squats down but as you launch it shudders and jerks as it's trying to fight traction.
I love engineers and car guys as guests.
Same!
I noticed when Jay uploaded the season premiere of his CNBC show of the same name last week, there were a few negative comments of how they disliked the CNBC show in comparison to these shorts. And really disparaging the CNBC series. Personally I like both. I will say that his CNBC shows most likely allow Jay to make these shorts. Jay DOESN'T have to do these shorts. I'm sure he is busy enough on his own that he doesn't need to do these videos. But Jay loves all things automobiles and wants to share his passion with others. So I appreciate both shows and hope he continues to do both as long as he wants.
Thank you Jay Leno.
That show is corporate, this show is independent BIG DIFFERENCE
CNBC RUINS THE SHOW WITH QUICK CAMERA MOVEMENTS, LOUD MUSIC AND TOO MANY GRAPHICS. NOT TO MENTION YOU DON'T GET THE DETAIL YOU DO HERE.
@@yotagang3705 you both don't get it. So what if it's corporate? Don't watch it. But most likely his network show is allowing Jay to do these videos. And CNBC could have kept Jay from showing the premiere FREE on TH-cam. So, there's that.
@@ronspeer If its corp theyre being controlled, not ther true feelings, its what management wants
I like how Jay can have a conversation with an engineer and he knows what he is talking about. He knows his cars.
That's pretty cool that they don't cut or weld anything. I was ready to dismiss the idea as another soulless electric conversion, but the thoughtfulness of making it completely reversible makes it hard to criticize.
Great transmission answer. ive been asking that question for years, this engineer guy really knows his stuff.
Yes, it is hard to explain why electric vehicles only use one gear while an internal Combustion engine can need up to 10 gears to do the same thing, without having to explain how a transmission works. Both motors and engines use transmissions, but the ICE has a smaller power band (the RPM that provides the needed power), so it needs multiple gears to spread that power over a wider range of speeds. While a motor provides most of its torque at 0 RPM and can be most efficient at 5,000 RPM. The transmission for the motor is often a compromise of power and efficiency, but if you want a really high top speed (like 200 or more MPH [322km/h]) you will need a second gear for the motor.
Jay thank you for another great show. It is cool to see innovation by small American businesses. And such seamless adaption to a classic car is truly remarkable.
Agreed!
Had to rewatch this one (a couple of times!!). Great content!
33:30 "You just plug it in and you know... you're making a piece of toast." Funny Jay! 😅 😂 🤣
bahahahahh!
Thank you Mr. Leno, I hope you live a long and healthy life and continue to make these wonderful records of your love of the automobile!
Me too!
"So what do you have we can convert?"... A. B.C. Give this man a raise!!! One of the best car conversations on the series.
Another JLG video where the conversation combined with the drive provided the most enjoyment!
A conversation between two REAL car guys. Love this
Agreed!
Great questions and discussions from Jay in this one 👍🏻
Agreed!
Brilliant, very well engineered and converted classic! Those two fellas were SMART/INTELLIGENT guys.
They also seemed very down to earth... Not the "I'm a rock-star wannabe" mentality of some of these guys.
*ruined classic
@@AR-zq9hq stuck in the past I see
While I really enjoyed the pandemic editions, I like that he once again is allowed passengers and they can drive and talk cars!
There's so much to like about this video. The integration of Tesla's drivetrain in a classic Porsche was done superbly. And the interview with the Zelectric representatives was the best I've seen on this channel. There was no one guy dominating the conversation that often happens. And you could tell there was genuine mutual respect between Jay and his guests.
Jay Leno : "This is one of the best electric cars I have ever driven." "Obviously I would rather have this than the 90 horsepower this thing came with." Says volumes! I would much rather have a converted electric Porsche of that Era. The orginals just weren't exciting to drive. And none of the maintenance and headaches that go along with ICE engines. Brilliant! Perfect in my opinion!
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hahaha true!
Ya that little lawn mower engine just don't cut it....😁
Such a clean conversion. I am a big fan of resto mods. This is one fast Porsche and keeps the great looks and heritage of the brand. Amazing! Well done gentleman.
Gotta love the rear end squat when Jay floors it, and look on dudes face. That's a true sleeper, smiles per wattage I guess gonna be the new phrase. Wonder what the 1/4mile time is. Great job explaining the tech and car, not some ignorant marketing agent. Excellent episode, hope the company does well.
Yes, and he kept flooring it! And laughing! That is the thing about these cars- they boogie! I was first inspired, at the airport a few years back, flight instructor had an early Model S 85. He had a student soloing, drove his car adjacent to the runway to observe. (This is a small private airport) After the solo, he pulled the Tesla onto the runway, let her go. It is almost comic how they takeoff, even seeing it from several hundred feet away.
"Smiles per coulomb," more like.
I'm guessing the instant power, and high torque of the electric motor would be an asset, on the drag strip.
It'd be interesting to compare the electric conversion's 1/4mile, to a stock version.
I saw Lucid Air at the mall the other day. I HOPE you'll cover that beast!
Yeah that car is incredible. I'm really excited to see where Lucid are going.
Jay asks a question, mashes the accelerator mid answer lol
Thank you Mr. Leno for another cool show! wish they could convert Citroen CX in the same way, this car truly deserves it!
Citroen DS for me, please.
Electric motors in old cars make you hear all the creaks you've been missing out on.
The first few seconds all the noise all the excitement...:)
Honestly, I prefer the air-cooled, stock version. However, I do appreciate the "Retro-futurism" ideology.
Great build!
Electric = blasphemy.
Same!
Having owned a 912, they're about the most gutless and boring Porsche to drive ever. I don't see how anyone can complain about removing the 90 HP engine that's slower 0-60 than 4 cylinder Camrys lol
Tech-heavy episode, very interesting!
Trent reminds me of Mike Westun in "Burn Notice". :D
The chit chat between the two of you on the ride was truly priceless! "Inquiring minds want to kmow!" Lol
A ton of respect for Jay. By his questioning you sense his tremendous knowledge.
Jay...have them convert your late 1930's Panhard Dynamic, the one that smokes so bad you don't want to drive it.
It's nice to have more options to have a car to ones taste.
What a beautiful car! Google AI says, "The 1968 Porsche 912 has a 1,582cc pushrod flat-four engine that produces 102 horsepower. It has a top speed of 116 mph and can go from 0 to 60 mph in 11.5-12 seconds."
I developed so much respect towards Jay Leno watching him over the years embracing American engineering and understanding the engineering processes Tesla has done with battery tech. What a great discussion these guys had. Thanks for making us all benefit.
Very nice Jay, thank you for offering this. it will super interesting to see how electric evolves. I am bit jealous that you get to drive everything cool, looking for those on your show one of these days!
I am jealous too!
Jay
Great job on this episode.
Not ready to pull my 993 motor but the 912 is an awesome option for this application.
I’d own one 👍🏻
This was excellent! Thank you.
Very interesting conversation during the drive. Thanks.
JAY should invite "RICH REBUILDS" to his garage, the stories that RICH has about TESLA spinoffs will make it a must-watch video.
I got to check them out
He also owns a BMW Clown Shoe that isn't electric, and he's doing an LS swap on a Tesla.
SuperfastMatt is fitting a Tesla drivetrain into a 1950 Jag. He's been on Jay's show with his motorcycle engine in a 67 Honda 600 sportscar.
Benedict Cumberbatch ??
I am trying to picture a Jay Leno episode with tortured recorder music in it!
Old Porsche guys are going to throw a fit when they see this.
uhhh yeah fairly reasonably I'd say lol I'm not even 30 and this is absolute blasphemy. It wasn't just that a company made a *new* electric vehicle, it's that they had to defile an already rare, already plenty expensive, already nearly perfect classic
@@jacobl6714 Get a life.
@@jacobl6714 agree. This is a crime. I'd rather see that Porsche turned into a bunch of Korean kettles than be defiled like that
@@AR-zq9hq the real crime are the ones who can't or won't fix theirs but won't sell them or entertain alternatives to keep it on the road. I am cheering this electric Porsche
@@houseofno I'd say this is worse. I agree about collectors hiding theirs away being a crime but at least they can one day be driven and enjoyed as standard
Superb episode guys!! loved seeing Jay in the car with another person again its so much more fun and dynamic!!*.* Trent is awesome, not only is this the future it is happening now.. bringing the classics to d Zelectric age, the electrified 65 Mustang oh i wanna see that one!!
Mr. Leno, I just told my husband you might enjoy Nick's garage videos. We enjoy your program along with his. Because of covid we have discovered TH-cam. God love you, the Siffords
This is an incredibly good episode! Interesting stuff, I’d definitely like to have one! Great job on the car Zelectric and great job on the video Jay!
The "crate motors" are a good start, but they need to offer plug-&-play modular controller and battery systems (plus HVAC) for the idea of doing easy EV conversions can take off.
Yes , especially a modular removable battery system would be nice. The price is still a mayor let back
@@HRM.H batteries aren't too difficult, although the system needs to be scalable and have the option for having multiple banks scattered throughout the car.
But the battery is child's play compared to the controller that goes between the batteries and the motor and usually serves as the charge controller as well. This is the interface between the driver and the motor and is the "brains" of the system.
@@ianfurqueron5850 well there are tons of company's making custom controllers so that's not the hard thing. Just price is the mayor barrier for everyone.
I wouldn't mind an affordable kit for a vintage Fiat 124 Spider.
@@HRM.H
The word you’re looking for is “major”, not “mayor”
This was one of the best espisodes. Such an engaging conversation
Fantastic episode! Great guests and beautiful car.
Is is one car I would have loved to see up on the lift.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xUJ3uVacTRHosG2uRIG6r2MWCSaOhzpF?usp=sharing
Ferdinand Porsche in his early days seemed more like electrician than an engineer.
Great drive Jay! Love the engineer...great conversation in and out of car!
My first Porsche was a '67 912 from Italy. Loved it. I like the e-swap. These gents have the cred.
I have seen Zeletric converted VW Beetles on YT and they are fascinating.
Yeah I watched this video too
Karmann Ghias are also stunning as EVs 👌
Really beautiful build; the green with those wheels and the ride height looks sick! If this is the "future" of road-going classics, so be it; I'd rather see these cars on the road than in a museum.
Or just kept in their original form as they should be. That’s another option.
This is the future to go for many classic and iconic cars. This 912 in its green original color is stunning!!! Not overloaded with todays massive interior and equipment. If it is possible, I want to get this. A huge thanx to jay to bring this guys and their work in his garage. Big cheers from Germany 🇩🇪
@@d.martins4471 not really.😎. The conversion of a classic car to electric drive is a growing field in the future. Now we have some regulations that allow you to drive a 25 plus years car without todays harsh emission laws. But there is a huge change upcoming. Around Germany, a lot of countries in Europe doesn’t allow you to use their roads with vehicles that don’t have actual emission standards and that is a huge problem for older cars.
The price for gas is not the biggest problem. Even a jaguar e-type is converted to an EV and it is stunning but not affordable for my pocket😎.
So have a very nice weekend and thanks for your comment 👍😎🇩🇪
@@d.martins4471 well, the things that you have pointed out are absolutely correct. Batteries are not the solution for our environmental problems. I see this technology only as a short bridge before H2 will come into use and efficient fuel cells are affordable to do the job. But as always, I don’t make the political decisions and sometimes the lobbies of car manufacturers and other big companies have a bad influence on the process. Take care
This is one of Jay's best.
I agree with Jay, I'd much rather have the electric motor, then the engine that came with it. What a great build!
Custom electric conversions of classic cars seems like a winning business model.
I hope Porsche manages to make a great electric 911 in the future as we are unfortunately going that way. This build gives some hope.
Actually Porsche's against it and which is why they are coming up with synthetic fuels!
If you accept that’s the way we are going with no pushing back then yes-that’s the way we are going. Funny how that works.
One thing I miss from the COVID videos was Jay putting the cars up on the lift so we can see the underside.
Nothing better in the world than the "sound" of a great running flat 6. I would love to have some of those discarded Porsche engines.
Fun fact, this car has never had a flat 6 in it
At 68, I would normally say, noooo, I would hope to have the attitude of "that's cool". My neighbor had one back in the day, same model, even same color. At the age of 15 then, thought it was the coolest car on the road, period!!
A vintage 911 is still the coolest car on the road. Definitely.
Well, a 912 in this case. But they look the same.
An Avanti electric conversion would be cool. It's like they were designed to be electric, but the tech didn't exist yet.
@@stephenbenson7409 Yes, but I want to see a real one, not just one in a movie with electric whirring sounds dubbed over it.😁
I really enjoyed this road test conversation!
Haha, not often you get to have a proper conversation in a 2 second hot rod. Outstanding!
lol
How about you mention the cost? Or is that a “if you have to ask” situation?
Great conversation between y'all, very informative and i love the future. Thanks Jay and keep them coming.
agreed
Beautiful job, if all electric cars looked like that id want one then! Actual car lines and design with a interior that looks like a car not a video game console. Awesome job by these guys!
Enjoyed that. Very nice work.
Great episode. I like this guy. This is what hotroding looks like in 2021.
* Always been a fan, Mr. Leno, but you are truly in your element here. Love me some JLG. Very entertaining. 👍
This is a nice build! I’m definitely looking forward to when electric conversion kits become more common. My Grand Wagoneer will be waiting!
Do your Grand Wagoneer a favor and sell it to someone who actually appreciates it and get yourself a Prius because you can't tell a difference
@@AR-zq9hq The future is now old man
@@AR-zq9hq Just tell everyone you're scared of technology
@@AR-zq9hq 🤣
@@AR-zq9hq get over it old man ice is finished
This is a great video! I really enjoyed it!
me too
Dear Mr. Leno.... I love your show!
The future of past is here, if nostalgia wants a future it has to be in the present, truly a green car
I LOVE these projects. I'd like to see Zelectric try something like a big old Cadillac. Something about a vehicle that is extravagantly wasteful made green and efficient , not to mention better handling, is really appealing. Young guy looks like an Americanized Cumberbatch.
AHHHHHh Thank you for saying something that I didn't know I agree with.
Best one ever. I really enjoyed this
The car is BEAUTIFULLY DONE and like you said The electric tesla motor is the cherry on top Great Video I really enjoy your videos thanks again
20:30 Jay says: "People said Tesla would be dead" and at that exact same moment a Model X flies by, Hilarious.
@@Brian-jv8iy said the guy who never owned a Tesla
@@Brian-jv8iy I've seen a lot of legit criticisms of Tesla. This ain't one of them lol
I think it is interesting how well the 901 architecture adapts to this conversion. I am supporting an aging 986 with its well known engine foibles. I think it is possible the Boxster may benefit someday, IMS be gone!
Beautiful, I want one!
Please don't ever stop doing these Jay.
Beats the pants off the network stuff.
I can't believe it's only 300 lbs more. That's incredible I expected 1000 more. That's just like having a fat passenger with you lol. Not a big deal at all especially for how much more torque this thing would have. And the fact one can go back to stock is sweet. It's the prefect situation for an old style electric car.
Extra weight gain might actually be less. While they mentioned the weight of the original engine, trans and exhaust, they forgot to factor in the added weight from a full tank of gas!
What a hot green potato! Love it!
lol :)
amazing , more of this content please .
Love. Cant wait for this with my 2017 Tacoma
Wow! Now I can floor it in my Porsche and not be bothered by that awful noise a classic Porsche usually makes. I hope they will add robotics soon so I don't even have to drive it (which tires my arms). I hope to soon just sit on my couch and use just one remote control to send the Porsche for a drive, vacuum the rug and cut the lawn. What a brave new world it is.
Don’t be such a realist-you’re bumming me out!!
Jay is wearing the special edition shirt in this episode.
This is stunning!
That is simply awesome.
This is a great episode about a great car conversion. There are a multitude of ways to keep classic cars alive and enjoyable into the future; this is simply a new way. Since it still costs probably 10 times what it would cost to simply rebuild the gas drivetrain, these aren't going to gobble up the classic car market any time soon, so relax, purists.
Yes good point. I hope they remain massively expensive!
Beautiful well done. A fine mix of old and new nesting wonderfully together. Props to you sirs.
Agreed!
Very good episode, great technical discussion.
Agreed!
16:22 - The moment David realizes that he's not the one Jay is taking on the test drive.