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- The heights of the Primarchs can vary depending on the source material and artistic interpretations, but the general consensus is that they are towering figures compared to regular humans and even Space Marines. These beings are larger and more powerful than anyone else and are considered demigods among humanity. The heights of the Primarchs vary, but they are generally around 10 to 12 feet tall if taken in mean variation. As with the other videos, grumble all you want in the comments below, 40k like the immaterium and also you and I’s opinions are subjective. So here we will include both the primarch heights pre heresy and also as demon princes of the chaos gods.
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>Shortest Primarchs
>Turn to Chaos
Manlets not even once
Cant catch a break
Note: bear hugs from Primarch Vulcan are by his very nature, fatal.
But worth it
The dude held up part of the palace during the seige so humans could escape the impact
@@mixmax6027 His humanity shines brighter then the rest of his brothers, quite possibly his most admirable trait.
@@mixmax6027Vulkan is the Primarch we needed but didn't deserve.
@@mixmax6027 wasn't that.....magnus?
"Lorgar struggled with his faiths, his beliefs and also being a bitch!" That and Angron as being 'the angry badger of the primarchs' made me laugh! 😄😄😄
i expected angron to be one of the taller primearchs tbh
@@hollowmass738he was originally supposed to be the empathetic Primarch (yes, including Vulcan and Sanguinius) but his upbringing ruined that.
Vulkan's underwear itself can be rebuild into a XXXL size T-shirt for a common Emperium's folk
Terminator Armor Vulcan is pretty much a Dreadnaught.
Dont know why but this comment sounds like the begging of a very especific "yo mama" joke
vulkan, blessed with a massive body and an even bigger heart
Damn Corax owns Lorgar. Even in height. Lol
The true flex of Corax to all his traitor brother (except Konrad) is his long black shiny hair.
@@griffionwyvrus9063which he inherited from Emps.
Jaghatai was said to be slightly taller than Horus in "Brotherhood of the Storm". Very cool story for people to read. There's some "human meeting primarch for the first time" stuff in there and it is pretty hilarious.
Like the time Rogal Dorn made an assembly of people shit themselves in terror after he walked at them too fast and he had to baby them like little children.
Also taller than Mortarion in Scars
Also "nearly a head taller" than Russ in Parh of Heaven, if I am mot mistaken
@@6ftTiny216 @DirtyMardi All correct. Not to shit on the video, of course. This is a very passionate fanbase after all LOL
@@maltheri9833Konrad did the same thing.
Its impressive how every "Primarch height" video looks at Ferrus being directly stated to be a full head taller than Corax and Vulkan in 'Fulgrim', and then goes "nah, I don't like that, I'm gonna say he's a manlet instead"
Agreed, biggest discrepancy though is with Mortarian I think, he’s 30ft tall in Dark Imperium 100%.
It always irritates me that in "Fulgrim" it says that Ferrus Manus is a full head taller than his brothers Vulcan and Corvus Corax. Probably just a case of discontinuity because in most other sources Vulkan is significantly larger than all the others
Are you irritated that Ferrus was taller? Or that not enough people give this lore-accurate height respect
Well, he's not a head taller nowadays.
Came here to make this argument. Thanks.
A head shorter than himself lol
That sounds pretty weird, I wouldn't count on it being canon. Also being a head taller than both Vulkan(who's huge) and Corvus(who's probably more average primarch height) doesn't make sense.
I always think of the ascended primarchs as a balloon compared to a rock
Much bigger but with no heft
Started watching this without seeing which channel it was and expected MajorKill to be talking about the primarchs' junk.
Vulkan has the biggest, because he's the tallest, and I'm pretty sure it works proportionally
@@Flesh_Wizardwell, and because he’s… well… you know…
In 'the unremembered empire', the lion and guilliman are very similar in size, with the lion slightly taller, with conrad taller than both (chap 16 for conrad size comparison)
In 'Scars', its said that jaghatai is taller than mortarion (Chap 20)
Speak of Jaghatai, the height difference is hair-included?
Yeah, some of these figures are off but I imagine there’s so much lore with different statements it’s a balancing act.
holy hell fulgrim is alot taller than I thought.
Not only you.
His height surprised both of us.
Just makes it all the more clear how insanely massive Rylanor's ceramite testicles were, lol.
7:50 - Correction. I think Ferrus was a head shorter than mentioned!
wow, Magnus so tall !
Vulcann is the Size of an Imperial Knight. Especially if Guillimen is roughly the size of a Dreadnought
I've kept track and have the actual real heights and the books where it says it
Alpharius Omegon: 8.5ft they have the tallest astartes too-book legion
Lion, guilliman, and sanguinius are all the same at "just under 3meters"- unremebered empire
Konrad is just above 11 foot being a whole head taller than lion, sanguinius and guilliman.- unremebered empire.
Vulkan is barely taller than cruze with no armor so he is 11ft with no armor on- vulkan lives
Horus is the same height as sanguinius pre hersey- book war without end
Still havent read all the books but thats the legitimate height of those primarchs
The khan is actually taller than morty- book the scars when they fight and also khan is taller but less broad than magnus same book
One thing I don't get: does the actual flesh and blood body of Horus grow larger after he turns traitor? Or does he just put on a massive new set of custom Terminator armor to rival the Emperor in size? Do the powers of the Warp make his body grow?
@@titanomachy2217it’s kind of similar to the emps use of aspects. His visble size seems to be the reflection of the power he is channeling per The End and the Death trilogy.
@@Perclocept Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
“And also being a bitch” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best quote ever!!
In the book about the istvan massacre it literally says Ferris manus is a HEAD taller than Vulcan (who was tall)
😢😢
I'm sad because Ferrus had to stop growing.
*Was* a head taller
It has been said in books(one specifically that I can think of..) that Jaghatai was slightly taller than Leman… as they faced off. While Leman was heavier built / stockier..
I can’t remember what book but it should be the one when Russ and the Kahn meet again after he had denied to help him
Path Of Heaven i think
Why were they fighting?
In the book deliverance lost Corax is said to be taller than Dorn, though not as heavily built (Deliverance Lost). As corax and konrad are practically twins they should be a similar size. Alpharius literally looks up to all his brothers. The Lion is said to be taller than Russ (Wolf king), and Robute (the unremembered empire) and 'one of the taller primarchs". Angron is said to be a comparable height to Horus, but massively broad (Galaxy burns) and Magnus is said to be a match in stature to Vulkan (The fury of Magnus) who was said to be as tall as Horus is when Horus wears terminator armour. Magnus is also said to be taller than the emperor (The first Heretic). Lastly Ferrus is said to be a head taller than both Vulkan and Corax (Fulgrim), which should make him the largest primarch.
This was my understanding as well.
True Dat!
Just dont let Ferrus get a head of himself cause he might lose his head
Note: Horus is supped up on chaos juice; growing in stature but losing all your hair in the process... heavy price
Chaos is just steroids, confirmed.
So Leman Russ is half the size of Magnus and broke his back in Prospero?
Yes
The Khan is actually in the WEBWAY hunting the DARK ELDAR
Probably kidnapped by now. Pretty sure the Drukhari would've mentioned it if a Primarch was attacking them for over 10k years they'd be extinct by now 😂 dudes in a torture chamber somewhere
@@maltheri9833 Or maybe he's just lost, fr.
@@maltheri9833 Wouldn't they brag about capturing a Primarch or like use it against the Imperium or sum
@@maltheri9833 Nah, no way the Great Khan would allow some lousy Drukhari to take him captive. He'd sooner will his own hearts to stop than allow that shit. I figure he's just up to similar activities as other characters that have been in the Warp for ages without any indication that they have been corrupted by Chaos like Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, or Kaldor Draigo; you know, hunting down Chaos Astartes warbands and Drukhari and daemons and such. Just because the writers haven't chosen to bring him back yet doesn't mean he's dead or anything, they just haven't decided what to do with him.
@@titanomachy2217 he didnt say dead, he said in a torture chamber, he's in their realm now, you can easily get lost or trapped in the webway, the eldar will know how to traverse it safely but even a primarch has no chance of that
I just finished Godblight, and I'm fairly sure it (or the previous book) mentions Mortarion as being 30' tall
Maybe with the extended wings but the artwork with Guilliman shows him being 50% taller
30ft tall as a Daemon Primarch.
@@stanislous137 same as angron
Yep, exactly, just thinking the same thing. I think some of these figures are off but it’s still a good video and I appreciate the time put in
Note: The Alpha Legion marines are noted as being taller than the Astartes of other legions. Likely, Alpharius and Omegon were identical in height to their boys
ferrus, magnus, and vulkan are the tall ones, just speaking still loyal.
In the 28th book of the Horus Heresy it says that Jaghatai is slightly taller than Mortarion, but not as havily built. In Dark Imperium: Godblight Mortarion is descripted as 10 m tall in his demon form.
Exactly what I just said hahaha yep!
So the Khan is 10m tall
Incorrect exept for alpharius
When estimating Alpharius and omegons height comoared to SM, you need to factor in that the average Alpha Legion SM was taller than SM from other legions.
I love your videos. They are awesome. Keep it up
I'm fairly certain when the lion and Russ squared up to each other it was said the Lion was slightly taller. I think it was in Leeman Russ: The Great Wolf.
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PS. In the book "Lord of the First" I think it says that Lion is a little over 3 meters without armor.
Unless it really is as the author of the film says (in another book). I don't remember.
It was probably a pretty small difference if they can see eye to eye in other works.
We must ask the important questions here how many woman did each primarch pull
Russ definitely pulled the most bitches. Those Fenrisian women are a hardy bunch and could probably take it a lot better than most
They were created in the lab?
Fulgrim has a hefty amount of that
Angron is still angry about being short
Hard to believe a 10.5 feet tall sanguinius won a 1v1 fight against a titan making it pop a void shield.
Warpfuckery
Primarchs are also psychic so...
Vulcan might not kill you. He is idk… and saves people, regular people at cost to his own men sometimes. Not a nice guy but compassionate for a primarch.
The only way this makes sense if you take what individual authors decided on. Its a know fact that they have strayed way of canon both on purpose and for various of their own ideas. Leman Russ as an example is decribed in every case (except some of the heresy books) as a figure that towered over his brothers. He stands head and shoulders taller than dorn and roboute and is a head taller than the lion in the lion and the wolf. the only primarch that rivaled him in height was ferrus (also mentioned in the heresy novels) and magnus. the idea that vulkan somehow ballooned into this bearmoth i dont understand where that came from. He reaches Ferrus to the elbow in the early heresy books. And was always considered like angry angron short but wide as a dumptruck.
My top. From shortest to tallest.
1. Alpharius/Omegon
2. Lorgar
3. Angron
4. Leman Russ
5. Rogal Dorn
6. Corvus Corax
7. Robaute Guilliman
8. Fulgrim
9. Horus Lupercal
10. Sanguinius
11. Perturabo
12. Lion El'jonhson
13. Mortarion
14. Konrad Curze
15. Jagathai Khan
16. Ferrus Manus
17. Vulkan
18. Magnus
I must admit. I loved Angrons origin story and finding by Big E, but...
I never liked what GW did with his Demon form? Just seemed so generic.
Ok, after this video tell me just ONE thing: how comes ordinary Astartes can wear Primarchs armour and wield Primarchs weapons if they were bigger than them?
There's no bad lore, only bad authors.
Are there any sources for these? It's said space marines are between 6ft 6" (there's actually a case of this being said, can't remember which book it was but a space marine was referred to as shorter, at only 2m/6'6") and 7.5ft.
Been retconned
No way are Space Marines only 6'6. Ridiculous. They are 7'5 at least. Primaris 8'.
@JohnnyZenith It was a special marine.
@@garethjohnstone9282maximmion voss of the imperial fist
They would barely taller than me. Space marines tower over regular size men. Maybe regular men are only 4 ft tall. I doubt it.
You obviously haven't read the books Lion is taller than Russ.
And Sanguinius is as tall as Horus without armour.
In plague war, daemon Mortarion is described as 30ft tall
*The power of Chaos had swelled Mortarion well beyond his original dimensions. Made twice the size of a mortal man by the Emperor, Nurgle had stretched him further, so that he was thirty feet tall, a stature befitting his exalted status in the Plague God’s court.*
Hmmmm In the book Fulgrim it says Ferrus Manus is a head taller than Vulkan
I thought i had read that angron was right in the middle of the brothers, while being stout and bulky in terms of proportions due to his gladiator background
emperor's nut was biracial
you can talk about, the race/ cultures each primarch is based on. like The khan asia, G man Roman, Vulkin(based in really hot planet,hot weather= darker melanin) African, The lion united kingdom, longer middle eastern. It could be a great video.
Emperor is confirmed to be Jesus. The guys probably the primogenitor of mankind.
@@maltheri9833 What is that true?
Vulcan is based on the West African Demi-god Ogun
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270idk if it was confirmed but it was heavily implied since he has canonically guided humanity everytime there was a great upheaval, even adopting the guise of a messiah at times.
uhh, vulcan wasnt based on africans, his skin just darkened due to mutation, his facial features are european mate
Love to think the emperor of mankind stands roughly 36feet... Same with in elden ring... The giants looking down at the empyrean's like humans and dwarfs... And empyrean's doing the same except looking down at humans... And titans do this to the giants...
While dwarfs and very specific gnomes..
One more thing... I like to imagine giants stand roughly 60 to 90 feet... While empyrean's are anywhere between 25 and 50... With radagon being at the 50 threshold when his body stopped growing as the power continued to grow...
Kinda like how the emperor stepped out into the spot light at about 36 feet and has remained the same size sense just advancements in environment lead to him looking small on the golden thrown... And back to empyrean's...
Mikella was born absolutely tiny in comparison... Standing roughly 16 feet... And was planning to grow to around 26 feet to accommodate for his power... But probably ended up a giant or titan being tanted by the omens blood known as moghwin... Yeah you know that dragon in demon souls... Make it an empyrean md call it mikella..
Of course model change is going to be needed in order for it to match... Same thing with either multiple transitions in environment like dark souls 3 and the optional tree boss... A vague representation... But a representation non the less
Lorgar "also being a bitch" 😂
My head canon is alpharius/ omegon 9'6, lorgar 10, angron 10'3, ferus manus 10'6, corvus corx 10'7, conrad kurse 10'8, sanguinius 10'9, rogal dorn 10'10, robute guilliman 11, magnus the red 11, fulgrim 11'2, perterabo 11'2, mortarion 11'3, leman russ 11'3, jagatai khan 11'3, horus luprical 11'4, lion el johnson 11'6, and finally vulcan at 12ft.
I think Ferrus Mannus was about a head shorter than Fulgrim.
Huehue
False in the book “fulgrim” it even says Ferris was a head taller than vulcan and corax
@@mjenkins91 humour is wasted on you, isn't it?
@@mjenkins91dont you get the joke
@@mjenkins91woooooosh
Fulgrim stated that Ferrus was a full head taller than him and most other Primarchs.
In the book "Siege of Terra - The End and the Death - Volume I" Horus says, he is four times the size of Mersadie Oliton.
The size of primarchs varies immensely from book to book.
Leeman grew to 50' tall when he fought Magnus, their height depends on the Warp infusing them at any moment because they are Warp creatures.
I never knew agron was one of the smallest.Hes kind of like a pit bull
Angron is taller than that. He is the size of a warhound titan in daemonic form, as stated in Emperors Gift. So he's about 56 foot tall.
100% you can easily tell that from the miniture scalings. He's sort of hunched over some and still towers over everything. Not sure if 56 feet is accurate, I feel closer to 40' or so. His base is a little higher than Guilliman's but if he straightened out his posture he'd easily be 3 Guilliman's and then a little on top.
@@DetroitTyler It is accurate in that he's said to be as tall as a warhound and that's how tall a warhound is, you're 40 feet is just your opinion, also the miniatures have nothing to do with the real scale.
Can't wait for the 1/18th figures of these guys XD
Мне казалось Рогал Дорн самый крупный "живая крепость"
These heights are very inconsistent im pretty sure vulkan is one of the tallest with Ferrus being a head taller and im pretty sure the lion is 10ft
“Wasn’t that tall…. 11.5ft”
When the lion shows up on ultramar, gillman remarks to himself that he's only a centimeter shorter than the lion is so that either makes gillman taller or the lion shorter
I’d say that Fulgrim was at least a head taller than Ferrus Manus…
That can’t be right. Vulkan’s nuts would be all over Roboute’s head if they hugged. Like Vulkan is one to do.
It’d be cool if we got Corax and Perturabo returning at the same time since we’re used to traitor primarchs being daemons and loyalists remaining the same. Have a little switch
I personally want to see demonic bird Corax +Ravenguard box set and demon primarch Lorgar +word bearers box set release.
So the story.. Lorgar leads the word bearers on a new crusade against the Imperium now that the eye of terror has become the great rift.. Corvus follows him out.
Jaghatai didn't enter the Warp, he entered the Webway and might be trapped in a Temporal maze.
That's not Fulgrim anymore. In the Horus Heresy he was in a deep regret of what he have done but he was possessed by a demon. In the end the demon gained control, went through a transformation to a demon prince and Fulgrims intellect was destroyed or looked away in the demon price to look at the mess he created in agony without the chance to do anything. In the end it's a Slaanesh demon price (or even greater demon tbh) that bursted out of Fulgrim body, not Fulgrim itself.
"he wasn't really that tall" he is 11 plus feet
Why you gotta do Guilliman like that? He looks like he's 5'2 in the thumbnail.
Thought ferrus was talker than Vulkan
Vulkan is the biggest of all the Primarchs
@@maltheri9833except magnus
Correct, Ferrus is stated to be a head taller than Vulkan and Corax.
@@doom1609 not anymore
@@jamesygamesy5124 Not after getting his head chopped off, no
you forgot to subtract konrads head from his height
and ferrus
I thought jagatai was lost in the web way, not the warp
If I recall I think the Lion is significantly shorter than Russ, or maybe it was Dorn he was shorter than... I have to read again to be sure I'm not making it up.
In the book, 'wolf king' the lion is said to be taller than leman, and also that Guilleman (unremembered empire) as well as being one of the taller primarchs
@@joshs8704 What I'm sourcing IIRC, is a passage from some point when one of dorns warriors dueled with one from the dark angels where both Primarchs were present... Again, if I remember correctly.. I want to say it was in Rogal Dorn's book.
Cool vid
Dude, Curze is definitely not the Space-Batman, that's more fitting a title for both Corax and Guilliman. Konrad is Space Punisher. And Khan was lost in the webway, not the warp.
Batman is a person while mentally insane still cares about ethics and morality and not about laws
@@JammesJack-td6gvBatman refuses to kill anyone in the comics. None of the primarchs are Batman.
@@chadwhitfield6946 The closest would be Guilliman then if that's the criteria you're going with.
@@JammesJack-td6gv What the eff are you even talking about, my man??!! Batman has never been portrayed to be mentally insane or even unstable!! He's the most rational of the bunch for crying out loud!!
@@anirecapped. when he holding the laso of truth he answer that his name was batman and there is simple fact that most mentally sane individuals dont dress up as rodents
Nice Video!
Imagine how many servitors and servants died while cleaning the toilet of a 4 meter superman
Mising Magnus The Red
Watch till the end bro
wasn't the lion described as 10ft in one of the books?
It's pretty inconsistent. For example, in the Gathering Storm Book 3, Roboute Guilliman was described as towering over even the Black Legionnaire terminators, standing head and shoulders above them, which would put his height at 12-13 ft range in the minimum.....at least while in armor.
@@anirecapped. but aren't terminators around 2,5 meters?
@@fortheemperor8764 No, that's regular first born astartes average height. Case in point, in the novel Horus Rising, CaptainGarviel Loken of the Luna Wolves was described as being 2.5 meters tall while his friend Tarik had a few inches over him. Terminators are at least a couple of feet taller due to their overhead cowlings.
@@anirecapped. Oh, I always thought that space marines were 2,20m custodes and terminators 2,50 and primarchs 2,80 (the shorter ones). Also, I don't think people count the cowlings when counting the height of terminators. Like, if you see the AoD marines next to leviathan terminators they are a head taller than the beakies (without counting the cowling)
in unremembered empire, its said that conrad is taller than the lion and guilliman
I think this is in the wrong playlist.
Nutbug just got this guy as a subscriber
В книге где Лев и Леман сражались чётко написано что Лев выше Лемана но Леман сложен крепче. На чём этот топ основывается?
На бредовых фантазиях. Тут миллиард ошибок. Правильно только то что Альфарий самый низкий и Магнус самый высокий. Всё остальное полный бред)
When Corax fought Lorgar in the warp. It was said that Lorgar was 3x the height of a marine. Also, that Corax was a similar height… it is very specific.
A standard marine (non Primaris) is between 7 and 8 feet. It’s possible Corax, like Lorgar, is 21ft - 24ft tall.
Huh, I always thought that Horus and Rus were more in the low mid range of Primarch heights but stout and bulky, like taller Angrons
Ferrus is the tallest pre-deamon. It in the book and say he is tallest the vulkan
So thats what happened to the 2nd and 11th they were killed for being too tall....or too short
Khan is in the webway
Ferrus was the tallest.
You say head and shoulders above Rogal Dorn but thats space amrines head and shoulders right? They're b igger than our heads and shoulders by 2x.
So a lot more than just the three primarchs are demon princes because perturabo lorgar and magnus are demon princes
The Lion is taller than Russ per the Leman Russ primarch novel.
Take care boyzzzzzzz !
We will Lore Master
The size disparity in the thumbnail is exacerbated.
Do you realize how much 3 meters high is? Your stated sizes would make them larger than dreadnoughts. An ordinary Marine is on average 220 centimeters tall. The tall marine is 240 cm. Most Primarchs look next to marines like marines look next to regular people. So they are between 260-300 cm. Angron is of similar height to Horus, but is described as much bulkier. Horus, exalted by the gods of chaos, actually grew, so he could be over 3 meters tall in terminator armor.
Angron was huge and tall.Taller then him was only Magnus.Even beffore possesed
you forgot to update Ferrus Manus' height after istvan/post heresy like minus 6ft and a head smaller 🙂
This is brutal 😅😢
Ferrus Manus is pretty short. About a head shorter than everyone else. 🤣
From what heard ferrus is a head taller than vulkan who is one of the largest primarchs
demon mortarion was confirmed to be like 30ft tall I thought?
lol that fucking height diagram, what information is that even based on?? also the implication that taller = more important again
We’ll that’s how you decide the best one
J Khan is lost in the wab way right "? not the warp
Yes. He's also not asian. Just grew up in an asian culture.
@@starvinforGarvintechnically all the primarchs are arab or Mesopotamian
@@JammesJack-td6gv Nope, Northern European to Mesopotamian.
@@JammesJack-td6gv Not at all.
@@anirecapped. i understand your confusion but consider the emperor is from somewhere in the middle east and all of his sons are made from his dna and nobody else's
Ok, who gave Fulgrim a Vtuber model?