Oooooh Im so excited that you chose this one! Here’s a confirmed fun fact about this animatic. The reason Tiresias looks gender neutral is because he spent multiple years as a woman as punishment from the gods
He was also asked to resolve an argument between Zeus and Hera since he had the perspective of both male and female. He sided with Zeus, angering Hera. So Hera struck him blind. As a consolation, Zeus gave him the gift of prophesy.
@@nuclearbirds Most Greek stories involving the gods are this fucked up. as a mortal you never win, whatever choice you make will please one god but anger another. Like, the whole story about the Trojan war was caused by Paris favoring Aphrodite but in the process angering Hera and Athena….
Fun fact, Jorge made Tiresias' song a waltz because Tiresias is supposed to be a really old character, and Jorge wanted to give him a really old style of music.
His classical enunciation that these guys pointed out would fit that as well. The careful enunciation of hard consonants is very much the way people are taught to sing for older musical genres (opera, classical musical theater, etc. as opposed to rock or pop singing).
From the video on callbacks, Jorge said that Tiresias sees "all of time, ALL THE TIME" - he doesn't see Odysseus (also on the account of being blind) but he sees a torrent of past and future images as our boi approaches. He cannot turn those visions off. And then Tiresias tries to convey the ones he sees most clear as they fly by so fast.
See the lyrics in this can 100% have double meaning. He sees "past and future running free" so the "song of past romance" and "sacrifice of man" Can reference things in both act 1 and act 2. As for the betrayal and "brothers final stand" Well you'll just have to see *laughs as someone who's read the Odyssey*
The prophet is talking about the PAST AND THE FUTURE "I see past and future running free" all of the phrases have an event from both the past and future that fit it
@@joescraft123it does actually, polities dies as a final stand for his Open Arms moral in the fight with the cyclops. So one of odysseus‘ Brothers takes a final stand in Akt 1
@@georginakosi5411 His entire relationship with Penelope is in his past. His romance with her literally only exists before the story and in his future aka the end of the story and after.
I hear Draw you sword Save your blood you could be nothing more run from Poseidon kill all the suiters or else I think that a few of them aren't the right ones mainly "Draw Your Sword" and "Nothing More" because Jorge said that out of these line Silent Halls King of Blood You could be nothing more run through silent halls kill all the suiters for love only one is correct.
To all who don’t know, Jorge confirmed the first four lines after the Thunder Saga released (SPOILERS): Siren Song! Scylla Throat! Mutiny! Lightning Bolt!
0:14 "How dare you?" "Well, basically they dared by drawing a picture of polites dead. Like, right there, when you asked 'how dare you'...that is how. That is a perfect example of how they are daring. Silly question really."
I want point out that Casper actually mentioned Tiresias before! I can't which video it was (maybe "there are other ways"?) but Casper talked about a blind prophet who's name he couldn't remember- which was Tiresias!
Anybody else notice that whenever odysseus's motif plays, Jorge is just Rick rolling his entire audience. Just sing never gonna give you up when Casper is playing the piano at the end😂
It's my understanding that almost every line in the prophets chorus actually has a dual meaning that is designed to refer to multiple events in both the future and past events at the same time: For example: "Song of past/passed romance" could refer to both the past Penelope romance and the 'passed' Circe romance in the previous songs at the same time. I imagine that each time the prophet repeats the chorus he is actually referring to different events in time. First chorus (past) and second chorus (future). Even the "no longer you" line in the first chorus can refer to how Odysseus changed between being willing to kill the infant to his interactions with Polites convincing him to try sparing Polyphemus, the act that caused Athena to leave him because he changed. (portrayal of betrayal)
I love how in EPIC tiresias is al mysterious and spooky and in the odyssey he is like you messed up you killed the cyclops and told him your name you big dummy but moving forward you can be less stupid so dont do anything with the cows, you will know what I mean
Tiresias in The Odyssey: Oh you need help? Sick. Maybe write this down so you don't fuck it up. Oh, no? Ah, I'm sure you'll be fine, anyways- *super specific directions* Tiresias in Epic: Oh you need help, do you? Nah fuck you. Decipher this, bitch- *haunting choir intensifies*
Sooo.. Tiresias: bro u f-ed up, if u dont wanna get smote don't eat the damn cows Ody: alr bet, we won't eat them Eurylochus and the crew: **NOM NOM NOM**
@@Ryuu_Helluva_Hazbin_Fan SPOILERS for vengeance saga. After the vengeance saga, I'm pretty sure its fight Poseidon. I think we'll have to find a video from Jorge to confirm
So of note, the Red Specters standing behind Tiresias is actually a reference to Ancient Greek Theater itself, where often times, usually with scenes that involve profits, there is hooded figures singing the chorus, either unable to se their faces or wearing masks to shove some gravitas to it. I remember seeing much mention of it in the Oedipus screenplay as well during that prophets scene, so it's very much thematic to have it animated like this and I am 100% willing to bet that it will be a thing when this show goes to Broadway some day
So, the chants have actually been confirmed a bit ago. They are "Siren song, Scylla throat, mutiny, lightning bolt, something Poseidon, and kill all the suitors for love." Basically, it's a chant of what his future holds. Currently (as of wisdom saga) we just finished lightning bolt.
@@Sevencatsinatrenchcoat Yeah, and what's cool is that each of the chants corresponds to what the prophets see in the future. So, "song of past romance" is 'siren song', the "sacrifice of man" is 'Scylla throat', and "portrayals of betrayals" is 'mutiny'.
@@oreki22 Something else that other people have pointed out is that the chants also correspond with past events (Tiresias sees past AND future running freea) :D
Fun little speculation: At the end of the song the backing choir vocals for Tiresias's Reprise have been partially deciphered and are in order as such- "I see you on the brink of death- (Siren's song, Sea of Blood)" - Foreshadow "I see you draw your final breath- (You can't leave, Loving Her)" - Likely Odysseus's own fears and insecurities in that moment "I see a man who gets to make it home alive- (Poseidon)" - Poseidon is drawn out but it's also a callback to ruthlessness and underworld The next choir chant picks up just before "But it's no longer you." and sounds akin to "He will kill suitors for love." - Foreshadowing and finally during his fall and Tiresias's exit one can hear Odysseus's name extremely drawn out until the songs decresendo.
I heard that back up as “You will hear nothing more”, referring to how oracles are not in control of the lines of the prophecies that they deliver no matter how much or in what way the querent (person asking the question) asks.
Yeah... This animatic is very blatant about what the prophet actually means. It's like reading a Percy Jackson book but the prophesy has a cheat sheet next to it explaining the actual meaning of each line. I really like Ximena's because it stays a bit vague about what it actually means and doesn't reveal the true meaning. It's also just amazing in a bunch of other ways. I'd absolutely recommend checking it out even if you don't make a video reacting to it.
The visions are simultaneously past and future, Tiresias says he sees past and future running free. The sacrifice of man is about Polites, and all the other men lost so far, and also about future sacrifices.
Thinking back to 'keep your friends close' when Odysseus was pleading with the dream version of Penelope, "so much has changed but I'm the same. Yes I'm the same" "but it's no longer you" makes you wonder
The cool thing about this song is that Jorge purposely made the prophecy about Odysseus's Past AND Future. In order, Tiresias is speaking about the following; Peneleope/ The Sirens, the fight against Polyphemus/ Scylla, the Crews past and future betrayals of trust, and the lost of both Polities and Eurylochus. Sooo good!!!
All animatics of this song are full of act 2 spoilers because it's a prophet so make sense. Also theres an animatic made by krieo that is great because the first chorus there's things from the past, and the second chorus there's stuff from the future with the same lyrics. If you don't mind spoilers then it wouldbe a great watch
fun fact; what you've identified as what (I presume) is the monster motif, also appears earlier in the musical- during the end of survive when odysseus goes "im the reigning king of ithaca" etc, the men in the background are singing this motif!!
I think this is what the back vocals are singing. " Siren Song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lighting Bolt, whirlpool, Poseidon, kill all the suitors for love'" and after Tiresias sings the long you, they sing. " Ody......sseus " they basically singing what is going to happen after he leaves the underworld aka the next saga. it's all the next songs, Siren song is Suffering, Scylla Throat is Scylla because you eat the men in that song, Muting is the next song after Scylla, Lighting Bolt is Thunder Bringer, whirlpool is Charybdis, Poseidon is get in the water and kill all the suitors for love is him getting revenge on the suitors for how they treated his wife and son .
I've always liked to view the prophet's "I see a song of past romance. I see the sacrifice of man." etc lines as mentions to both the past AND future. Tiresias sees both, so I like to think that he uses the same words to describe different events; some that have already happened and some that are still yet to come.
Oh my god I just realised the monster motiv you're talking about at the end is also being sung by the soldiers when Odysseus is doxing himself in Remember them. Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Felt it in my soul, knew they were gonna do that animatic. 😭 Excited to watch this video, but also manifesting that you check out Ximena's version as well. 💕
The background chorus says Siren Song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lightning Bolt, and I'm unsure of the last two, but I believe they say Run from Poseidon and Kill The Suites For Love *spoilers* I do know that ody ends up facing against Poseidon again and has an entire boss battle song with the suiters so I am confident that they're correct
Maybe I could recommend checking out Krieo's No Longer You animatic as an alternative, cuz for the first chorus, it uses Act I events, while for the second, it uses Act II Would also highly recommend Ximena's version
I love how it is the same every song: "You ready?" "Yeah." (NO), total emotional breakdown after some time and Mortius just going "YEAH.", it's just wonderful
There is a game called Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical (on steam) Its a choose your adventure styled musical where you pick the mood/style for the ongoing song and essentially its a musical with alteast 3 main variations. Ofcourse the goal is for the musical to evolve how you want it.
@officialmortius Some people have limited cognitive abilities, but then again I was also having a dumb brain moment myself yesterday when I asked if y'all would be avoiding the snippets for Act Two, so I'm just as guilty lol.
My friend found out the lyrics to the backround vocals: siren song King of blood You will face Charybdis Fight po-sei-don Kill all the suitors for love We appreciate that u took ur time to look at this! Thank you so much! Have a wonderful Day/Night
SPOILERS FOR ACT 2 Speaking of Oddyseus returning home, there's the song not released yet called "King" that takes the line of "i see your palace, covered in red, faces of men, who have long believed you're dead"
@@aadityayanamandra8846 I guess I just think that for someone new to it that hasn't been spoiled on the demos it's kind of a dead giveaway that he's the threat in the song before the song actually says his name.
That monster motif you mentioned. It was in Remember Them, when Odysseus is doxxing himself. The background vocals follow those notes exactly. Remember me (Ooooooooh)
The motif you guys are discussing at the end, that comes from Remember Them! It's first sung in the background at the end while Odysseus doxxes himself lol
I think that the animations have it of past events makes it better as it shows what is going through his mind trying to make sense of that the prophet is saying without context Behind what he is saying which leads into his rage of WHO.
Jorge did share almost the full song title/saga list at one point, except for two mystery song, that is not part of the original Odyssey story, but will be part of Epic only. (We will hear them on july 4th in Thunder Saga) There are also so many amazing snippets of future songs, including both of those scenarios that Mortius and Casper talked about in their future speculations.
So basically the the chorus at the end is foreshadowing what happens in the next Saga they are saying; Siren Song, sylla throat, lightning bolt, Poseidon and kill all your suitors for love
fun fact Tiresias' lyrics referenced a few songs these being the cut songs Olive Tree, Survive, Keep Your Friends Close, Mutiny, maybe Get In The Water, and the song called Odysseus.
Also something I learned, the ghosts behind the prophet in the last verse are saying “Siren Song” “Scylla Throat” “Mutany” and “Lightning Bolt” foreshadowing the entirety of the next Saga
hi! info dumping over here SO, in that tik tok that you mention where he says that 1 of those lines where correct he revealed the first 4 but didn´t say the rest because they were part of the future saga. soooo these were the oficial lines that are sang in the chorus 1) SIREN SONG 2) SCYLLA THROAT 3) MUTINY 4) LIGHTNING BOLT ande he ended saying and i quote, "and i dont want to tell you´the other ones, because those are also spoilers for other parts" i think song 38. SO i hope this helps calm your curiosity because it surely helped mine😂😂 by the way english isn´t my first language so, sorry for any gramatical mistakes😅.
the chorus of souls sounds like it opens with "silence all" "say no more" to me but ive also listened to this song an unhealthy amount of times and may be going insane
Idk if anyone else has said this but I think the “man who is haunting” is still Odysseus after his voyage. If you know the source material he certainly has a trail of bodies. Therefore, “a man who gets to make it home alive, but it’s no longer you” is Odysseus after he becomes “the monster” and is unrecognisable from the man who set off from Ithica
I like to think that the first time the "Prophet song" is said it's referring to the past, while the Second time when He's answering Ody's question He's talking about events to come It fits well with the "I see past and future running free" Lyric
I wonder if the first chorus is referring to the past - the iliad - and then the second chorus is referring to the future (the second act, to avoid spoilers). Jorge mentioned in one vid that the prophet is overwhelmed by past and future all at once...
actually act 2 the thunder saga is coming on none other then July 4th. I know you recorded this a while ago but its coming. I am sure you guys might have already recorded some part of hanimations already and it will come on youtube later. I cant wait to see this and monster reaction. To bad hades never showed up so CF could see real hades instead of wet hades
The real Hades wouldn’t be wet hades, it would be thirst hades, because with all these talented animators I don’t think there would be anyone immune to simping over the underworld god
I might not know all the haunted chorus line, but I'm willing to bet that the very last line is just a single word: "Ody-sse-us" as the futrue version flies at the present version. answering Ody's "Who", and also following the style of when people get all their titles listed before their names get mentioned (like "king of blood")
i love how the animator portrayed the prophet with white glowing eyes instead of a blind fold it kinda makes me feel like like his eyes arent in this present, theyre traveling through the possible futures
i love the line "i see you draw your final breath" because most people would think it is talking about odysseus dying, but its not its talking about the fact that after thunder bringer he has gone past the point of no return his whole crew is dead and technically he is the reason the last of them died so its the point where he fully accepts he has become a monster and at that point there is no going back for him he will make it home at all costs even if as the Prophet says it will no longer be him that makes it home.
OH! Little fun fact! There is a TikTok that someone posted that Jorge himself made another TikTok about. It talks about the chorus of the souls and what they’re saying! “Siren song” “Scylla throat” “Mutiny” “Lightning bolt” “Run from Poseidon” “Kill all the suitors for love!”
The chants I hear: Siren Song Scylla's Cost(Or Silent Halls) Mutiny Lightning Bolt Fight Poseidon Kill all the Suitors for Love My theory: The next songs in this whole musical will have to do with these things. Siren Song is one of the next songs "Suffering", Scylla's Cost/Calls is the song "Scylla", Mutiny is the song after Scylla where Odysseus and Eurylochus fight, Lightning Bolt is the song after, it's Thunder Bringer. Fight Poseidon is after the songs "Dangerous" and "Charybdis" where he is almost home but Poseidon meets him and screws with him. He fights poseidon, tortures him into calling off the storm, then heads back home. Killing all the Suitors for Love makes sense after knowing there are Suitors who are threatening to hurt Telemachus and Penelope because they think Odysseus is dead. I think he'll kill them and reunite. (This is from what i know from info from the Odyssey and just using the song names.
Does anyone remember mr Peabody and Sherman, did you know Odysseus is in there too(in the trojan war part), but Odysseus there is a little bit different from epic animatics badass Odysseus 🙂🙂🙂 Just search and you will understand
Btw, incase you haven't seen it, the first 4 of lines of the background vocals have been comfirmed, and don't worry, they are not spoilers(Unless you have not seen thunder saga), the first 4 are refering to thunder saga SPOILERS FOR THUNDER SAGA ONLY, DON'T LOOK IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THUNDER SAGA YET!!!! 1. Siren Song(Suffering) 2. Scylla Throat(Scylla) 3. Mutiny(Mutiny) 4. Lightning Bolt(Thunder Bringer) Jorge comfirmed these, the first 4, but he said the other ones after are spoilers for sagas after Thunder Saga and didn't share them
I believe the words the spirits are saying are "Siren song" "Scylla throat" "Mutiny" "Lightning bolt" "Whirlpool,Poseidon" "Kill all the suitors for love" The first four are confirmed the last two or speculation of what they might be
So, another animatic I’ve watched for this song that I absolutely love is from another creator called Krieo that had the first verse chorus being things that had already happened in act one and verse two chorus being flashes of what will happen in act two. So verse one chorus had Song of Past romance = Penelope or Cercie Sacrifice of man = Odysseus dropping the infant Portrayals of betrayal = the crew opening the bag A brother’s final stand = the death of Polites The second verse chorus is all spoilers for what is going to happen in act two but anyone who doesn’t know the Odyssey won’t know what those things mean until they actually happen. I highly recommend going and watching it.
With captions on in that video it actually shows you the background vocals. Which are as follows Siren song Scylla throat Mutiny Lightning bolt Whirlpool Poseidon Kill the false suitors of love
The thing i love of this song, is that every event except of the ones of the Palace can be both past and future, making the line of i see past and future running free even greater.
Funny how the person you’re referring to that’s in the TikTok and guessed some of the choir lyrics right is also gwendy, the same person who’s animatic you’re reacting to😂
Ik most of these have pretty much been confirmed now but this is a guess I've seen and everything makes sense to apart from the first line Summer song, Scylla throat, Mutiny, Lightning bolt, Fight posideon, Kill all the sutoirs for love
This song had no business being so heartbreaking, but I love it and the credit goes fully to Jorge, because in The Odyssey the prophet is just like "Yeah, you're good as longs as you don't do [this very specific thing that could be a spoiler even though I'm like 4 months late]"
GIGGLING AND KICKING MY FEET RN IM SO HAPPY THIS VIDEO EXISTS BC I JUST CAUGHT UP IN EPIC SO I WENT OVER TO THIS CHANNEL TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD UP AHHHAISAHUEJSHS
Ok now Jay has confirmed the choir lyrics(kind of). “Siren song, scylla’s throat, mutiny, lightning bolt” are the first 4. Don’t know what the 5th is and the 6th is a spoiler for an even later saga
I think the first time he sings the prophet is actualy refeeing to the past. The later half of the song when he starts repeating the chorus is about the future. "Sacrifice of men" refering to polities at first and later refering to odysseus sacrificing 6 crew members to scylla.
i thought with him seeing both past and future he was singing about events past and yet to come like penelope to scylla to opening the bag of wind then forward to a confrontation that spiraled out from that betrayal
i always interpreted it as the first go around of the chorus saying the past since he says "past and future" and the second round being the future.guess i was wrong, but that's always how i've interpreted the song.
The thing when Casper cursed and gigis odesseus from puppeter shows up and The lil Muppet singing when Casper was talking were my two fav moments 😂❤❤(I really like your vids with Caspers reactions, you two made my day😊)
Oooooh Im so excited that you chose this one! Here’s a confirmed fun fact about this animatic. The reason Tiresias looks gender neutral is because he spent multiple years as a woman as punishment from the gods
He was also asked to resolve an argument between Zeus and Hera since he had the perspective of both male and female.
He sided with Zeus, angering Hera. So Hera struck him blind. As a consolation, Zeus gave him the gift of prophesy.
Damn, Zeus thinks that was a reward?
@@jy8081 Well, he couldn't reverse his wife's curse. So, he gifted him the next best thing to the sense of vision ... future vision.
Every trans person ever: what did he do to the anger the gods, exactly??
@@nuclearbirds Most Greek stories involving the gods are this fucked up. as a mortal you never win, whatever choice you make will please one god but anger another. Like, the whole story about the Trojan war was caused by Paris favoring Aphrodite but in the process angering Hera and Athena….
*"WHO"*
"... I'm not an owl" 💀😭
Fun fact, Jorge made Tiresias' song a waltz because Tiresias is supposed to be a really old character, and Jorge wanted to give him a really old style of music.
That and since he has the gift of clairvoyance, something of divine right, that's why he has the subtle synths
His classical enunciation that these guys pointed out would fit that as well. The careful enunciation of hard consonants is very much the way people are taught to sing for older musical genres (opera, classical musical theater, etc. as opposed to rock or pop singing).
From the video on callbacks, Jorge said that Tiresias sees "all of time, ALL THE TIME" - he doesn't see Odysseus (also on the account of being blind) but he sees a torrent of past and future images as our boi approaches. He cannot turn those visions off. And then Tiresias tries to convey the ones he sees most clear as they fly by so fast.
See the lyrics in this can 100% have double meaning.
He sees "past and future running free" so the "song of past romance" and "sacrifice of man" Can reference things in both act 1 and act 2. As for the betrayal and "brothers final stand" Well you'll just have to see
*laughs as someone who's read the Odyssey*
Back in school I never thought I'd get to use * laughs in Homer * as often as I have in the past few years XD
*Also laughs in someone who knows the full story of the Odyssey*
I love that fact a book older than Jesus is now being given the (I know and you don't haha, oh I'm gonna spoil it...SIKE!hahahha) treatment
Laughs in Iliad, Odyssey, and Aeneid.
where can i find a good version of it to read?
The prophet is talking about the PAST AND THE FUTURE
"I see past and future running free" all of the phrases have an event from both the past and future that fit it
“A brother’s final stand” is the only one which doesn’t have a past event
@@joescraft123it does actually, polities dies as a final stand for his Open Arms moral in the fight with the cyclops. So one of odysseus‘ Brothers takes a final stand in Akt 1
Past romance?
@@georginakosi5411 His entire relationship with Penelope is in his past. His romance with her literally only exists before the story and in his future aka the end of the story and after.
@@Thefrog21ur post made me realize this and now I’m sad again. WHEN I FIND U JORGE!
“Sirens call, King of gods, You could be, running far, from Poseidon, Kill the suiter for love” is what I hear from those unknown lyrics
I hear sirens song, King of gods, you could be , running far , from poseidon , kill the suiter for king. and I can't get it out of my head!
i hear kill the suitor for blood, which if you know what athena promises ares
I hear
Draw you sword
Save your blood
you could be
nothing more
run from Poseidon
kill all the suiters or else
I think that a few of them aren't the right ones mainly "Draw Your Sword" and "Nothing More" because Jorge said that out of these line
Silent Halls
King of Blood
You could be
nothing more
run through silent halls
kill all the suiters for love
only one is correct.
I hear:
Sold your soul
To your home
for the first two, honestly
To all who don’t know, Jorge confirmed the first four lines after the Thunder Saga released (SPOILERS):
Siren Song!
Scylla Throat!
Mutiny!
Lightning Bolt!
0:14 "How dare you?" "Well, basically they dared by drawing a picture of polites dead. Like, right there, when you asked 'how dare you'...that is how. That is a perfect example of how they are daring. Silly question really."
I want point out that Casper actually mentioned Tiresias before! I can't which video it was (maybe "there are other ways"?) but Casper talked about a blind prophet who's name he couldn't remember- which was Tiresias!
He prob doesn’t remember cause he’s Casper our reverse Cassandra lol!
@@J.D.onthego "Reverse Cassandra" made me snort out my coffee. Love it.
Anybody else notice that whenever odysseus's motif plays, Jorge is just Rick rolling his entire audience. Just sing never gonna give you up when Casper is playing the piano at the end😂
Jorge! Jorge, when I catch you, Jorge! XD
Are you serious 😭
Oh my gosh
@@TailsFanget your pitchforks and light your torches people!!!!!
It's my understanding that almost every line in the prophets chorus actually has a dual meaning that is designed to refer to multiple events in both the future and past events at the same time:
For example: "Song of past/passed romance" could refer to both the past Penelope romance and the 'passed' Circe romance in the previous songs at the same time.
I imagine that each time the prophet repeats the chorus he is actually referring to different events in time. First chorus (past) and second chorus (future).
Even the "no longer you" line in the first chorus can refer to how Odysseus changed between being willing to kill the infant to his interactions with Polites convincing him to try sparing Polyphemus, the act that caused Athena to leave him because he changed. (portrayal of betrayal)
that's how i always saw it too.
I love how in EPIC tiresias is al mysterious and spooky and in the odyssey he is like you messed up you killed the cyclops and told him your name you big dummy but moving forward you can be less stupid so dont do anything with the cows, you will know what I mean
Tiresias in The Odyssey: Oh you need help? Sick. Maybe write this down so you don't fuck it up. Oh, no? Ah, I'm sure you'll be fine, anyways- *super specific directions*
Tiresias in Epic: Oh you need help, do you? Nah fuck you. Decipher this, bitch- *haunting choir intensifies*
"I am the prophet with the answers you seek"
proceeds to give no answers whatsoever
Sooo..
Tiresias: bro u f-ed up, if u dont wanna get smote don't eat the damn cows
Ody: alr bet, we won't eat them
Eurylochus and the crew: **NOM NOM NOM**
Well he has the answers but just isnt gonna share them xD @@SayukiSuzukiMizuno
@@SayukiSuzukiMizuno prophets kinda be like that fr
Love Mortius jamming and then boom Polites 😂
The happiness of polites will haunt them for ever
Weather Update: Jorge actually uploaded a tiktok about what the chorus is actually saying!
What is it
@@sophiegreenfield-is6xwSPOILERS !!!!!!
Siren song, Scylla throat, mutiny, lightning bolt, something about posidon, and kill all the suitors for love
Is the "weather update" is a ref of "welcome to nightvale" ? Because that what it remind me of x)
@willcore_nashton6797 I think is from the "history of the entire world, I guess"
@@Ryuu_Helluva_Hazbin_Fan SPOILERS for vengeance saga. After the vengeance saga, I'm pretty sure its fight Poseidon. I think we'll have to find a video from Jorge to confirm
So of note, the Red Specters standing behind Tiresias is actually a reference to Ancient Greek Theater itself, where often times, usually with scenes that involve profits, there is hooded figures singing the chorus, either unable to se their faces or wearing masks to shove some gravitas to it. I remember seeing much mention of it in the Oedipus screenplay as well during that prophets scene, so it's very much thematic to have it animated like this and I am 100% willing to bet that it will be a thing when this show goes to Broadway some day
So, the chants have actually been confirmed a bit ago. They are "Siren song, Scylla throat, mutiny, lightning bolt, something Poseidon, and kill all the suitors for love." Basically, it's a chant of what his future holds. Currently (as of wisdom saga) we just finished lightning bolt.
The last two are just speculation but yeah
Omg wait, I looked back at the tiktok mortius mentioned and the last one is in fact correct lol. It's just the Poseidon one that's unknown
@@Sevencatsinatrenchcoat Yeah, and what's cool is that each of the chants corresponds to what the prophets see in the future. So, "song of past romance" is 'siren song', the "sacrifice of man" is 'Scylla throat', and "portrayals of betrayals" is 'mutiny'.
@@oreki22 Something else that other people have pointed out is that the chants also correspond with past events (Tiresias sees past AND future running freea) :D
Fun little speculation: At the end of the song the backing choir vocals for Tiresias's Reprise have been partially deciphered and are in order as such-
"I see you on the brink of death- (Siren's song, Sea of Blood)" - Foreshadow
"I see you draw your final breath- (You can't leave, Loving Her)" - Likely Odysseus's own fears and insecurities in that moment
"I see a man who gets to make it home alive- (Poseidon)" - Poseidon is drawn out but it's also a callback to ruthlessness and underworld
The next choir chant picks up just before "But it's no longer you." and sounds akin to "He will kill suitors for love." - Foreshadowing
and finally during his fall and Tiresias's exit one can hear Odysseus's name extremely drawn out until the songs decresendo.
The "You can't leave, loving her" also could be referring to Calipso
@@ZackMer937 Very very true
So “kill suitors for love “is the correct lyric I guess
@@Waffily78 That's what I was thinking, but sea of blood seems soooo close
I heard that back up as “You will hear nothing more”, referring to how oracles are not in control of the lines of the prophecies that they deliver no matter how much or in what way the querent (person asking the question) asks.
Yeah... This animatic is very blatant about what the prophet actually means. It's like reading a Percy Jackson book but the prophesy has a cheat sheet next to it explaining the actual meaning of each line. I really like Ximena's because it stays a bit vague about what it actually means and doesn't reveal the true meaning. It's also just amazing in a bunch of other ways. I'd absolutely recommend checking it out even if you don't make a video reacting to it.
That motif is also at the end of "Remember Them" when Odysseus says "I'm the reigning king of Ithica"
The visions are simultaneously past and future, Tiresias says he sees past and future running free. The sacrifice of man is about Polites, and all the other men lost so far, and also about future sacrifices.
Honestly, the prophet could actually be singing about both past and future - so Gwendy's interpretation could still be valid
Thinking back to 'keep your friends close' when Odysseus was pleading with the dream version of Penelope, "so much has changed but I'm the same. Yes I'm the same"
"but it's no longer you"
makes you wonder
I absolutely love that Gigi's pfp was used to block out the curse words hahahaha
The cool thing about this song is that Jorge purposely made the prophecy about Odysseus's Past AND Future. In order, Tiresias is speaking about the following; Peneleope/ The Sirens, the fight against Polyphemus/ Scylla, the Crews past and future betrayals of trust, and the lost of both Polities and Eurylochus. Sooo good!!!
All animatics of this song are full of act 2 spoilers because it's a prophet so make sense. Also theres an animatic made by krieo that is great because the first chorus there's things from the past, and the second chorus there's stuff from the future with the same lyrics. If you don't mind spoilers then it wouldbe a great watch
fun fact; what you've identified as what (I presume) is the monster motif, also appears earlier in the musical- during the end of survive when odysseus goes "im the reigning king of ithaca" etc, the men in the background are singing this motif!!
... I mean, what else are songs hanging around the Underworld meant to do if not be backup vocalists?
I think this is what the back vocals are singing. " Siren Song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lighting Bolt, whirlpool, Poseidon, kill all the suitors for love'" and after Tiresias sings the long you, they sing. " Ody......sseus " they basically singing what is going to happen after he leaves the underworld aka the next saga. it's all the next songs, Siren song is Suffering, Scylla Throat is Scylla because you eat the men in that song, Muting is the next song after Scylla, Lighting Bolt is Thunder Bringer, whirlpool is Charybdis, Poseidon is get in the water and kill all the suitors for love is him getting revenge on the suitors for how they treated his wife and son .
I’d definitely spend the rest of eternity being this guy’s backup singer.
Real
I've always liked to view the prophet's "I see a song of past romance. I see the sacrifice of man." etc lines as mentions to both the past AND future. Tiresias sees both, so I like to think that he uses the same words to describe different events; some that have already happened and some that are still yet to come.
Oh my god I just realised the monster motiv you're talking about at the end is also being sung by the soldiers when Odysseus is doxing himself in Remember them. Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Felt it in my soul, knew they were gonna do that animatic. 😭 Excited to watch this video, but also manifesting that you check out Ximena's version as well. 💕
I agree. Ximena's version is peak.
Yess, that one is my favourite, sad no one ever checks it out :(
The background chorus says Siren Song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lightning Bolt, and I'm unsure of the last two, but I believe they say Run from Poseidon and Kill The Suites For Love
*spoilers*
I do know that ody ends up facing against Poseidon again and has an entire boss battle song with the suiters so I am confident that they're correct
14:18 Casper is so adorable knowing he is right but can't tell mortius!
I seriously don’t know who this mason (the editor) is but i love him so much his edits are funny and cool 😭♥️
Magicmason1000 is the editor. He’s amazing. He also has his own channel.
I love the imagery during the final Chorus. The Cloaked Red figures remind me so much of Hellfire from Disney's Hunchback.
Maybe I could recommend checking out Krieo's No Longer You animatic as an alternative, cuz for the first chorus, it uses Act I events, while for the second, it uses Act II
Would also highly recommend Ximena's version
I love how it is the same every song: "You ready?" "Yeah." (NO), total emotional breakdown after some time and Mortius just going "YEAH.", it's just wonderful
There is a game called Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical (on steam)
Its a choose your adventure styled musical where you pick the mood/style for the ongoing song and essentially its a musical with alteast 3 main variations. Ofcourse the goal is for the musical to evolve how you want it.
What do you mean act 2 isn't coming out soon?! IT'S COMING OUT ON JULY 4th?!
LISTEN we recorded that a while ago 🤣
Yeah they didn't know when it would be released because Jorge hadn't released the trailer for the Thunder Saga until after they'd recorded this.
@officialmortius can you do god games plz
@@matthewthesnowman1753 How did you get to the finale of a reaction series without understanding how blind reactions work 🤔
@officialmortius Some people have limited cognitive abilities, but then again I was also having a dumb brain moment myself yesterday when I asked if y'all would be avoiding the snippets for Act Two, so I'm just as guilty lol.
Gwendy was the one who made the TikTok of guessing what the background voices said btw 15:10
My friend found out the lyrics to the backround vocals:
siren song
King of blood
You will face
Charybdis
Fight po-sei-don
Kill all the suitors for love
We appreciate that u took ur time to look at this! Thank you so much! Have a wonderful Day/Night
The visuals during "I see you on the brink of death, i see you draw your final breath" are the same as the trailer for the upcoming Thunder saga.
O.G GWENDY IS THE TRUE PROPHET
The prophet in the story "dont let your bro kill a cow"
The prophet in epic "i am going to sing the best damn song in this whole show"
SPOILERS FOR ACT 2
Speaking of Oddyseus returning home, there's the song not released yet called "King" that takes the line of "i see your palace, covered in red, faces of men, who have long believed you're dead"
The song is renamed to "Odysseus" to better fit the naming scheme of songs like Polyphemus, Scylla, and Charibdis
@@aadityayanamandra8846Wish they hadn't, "King" is still fitting and doesn't give it away so quickly who the threat is.
@@TailsFan Nah, I like the change. Brings him in line with the other "monsters," given the song is primarily from the suitors' perspective.
@@aadityayanamandra8846 I guess I just think that for someone new to it that hasn't been spoiled on the demos it's kind of a dead giveaway that he's the threat in the song before the song actually says his name.
@@TailsFan I mean, fair enough I guess? To be entirely fair, I think knowing the song titles in and of itself is kind of a spoiler.
Mr Jalapeño said this Siren Calls, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, thunder bolt and prolly after vengeance saga he'll tell it
That monster motif you mentioned. It was in Remember Them, when Odysseus is doxxing himself. The background vocals follow those notes exactly.
Remember me
(Ooooooooh)
The motif you guys are discussing at the end, that comes from Remember Them! It's first sung in the background at the end while Odysseus doxxes himself lol
I think that the animations have it of past events makes it better as it shows what is going through his mind trying to make sense of that the prophet is saying without context Behind what he is saying which leads into his rage of WHO.
7:23 GWENDY HOW DARE YOUUUU 😭😭😭😭😭 LET ME RECOVER FROM UNDERWORLD FIRSTTTT 😭 (rip Odysseus's mom and rip polites btw.)
"that is a cool portrayal of poseidon" *watches future Ody rises out of the water* ... you'll figure it out eventually mr wet hades
I won’t be able to join in on the Premiere, but I can’t wait to watch this!
Jorge did share almost the full song title/saga list at one point, except for two mystery song, that is not part of the original Odyssey story, but will be part of Epic only. (We will hear them on july 4th in Thunder Saga)
There are also so many amazing snippets of future songs, including both of those scenarios that Mortius and Casper talked about in their future speculations.
So basically the the chorus at the end is foreshadowing what happens in the next Saga they are saying; Siren Song, sylla throat, lightning bolt, Poseidon and kill all your suitors for love
fun fact Tiresias' lyrics referenced a few songs these being the cut songs Olive Tree, Survive, Keep Your Friends Close, Mutiny, maybe Get In The Water, and the song called Odysseus.
Also something I learned, the ghosts behind the prophet in the last verse are saying “Siren Song” “Scylla Throat” “Mutany” and “Lightning Bolt” foreshadowing the entirety of the next Saga
hi! info dumping over here SO, in that tik tok that you mention where he says that 1 of those lines where correct he revealed the first 4 but didn´t say the rest because they were part of the future saga. soooo these were the oficial lines that are sang in the chorus
1) SIREN SONG
2) SCYLLA THROAT
3) MUTINY
4) LIGHTNING BOLT
ande he ended saying and i quote, "and i dont want to tell you´the other ones, because those are also spoilers for other parts" i think song 38.
SO i hope this helps calm your curiosity because it surely helped mine😂😂
by the way english isn´t my first language so, sorry for any gramatical mistakes😅.
OMFG THE GIGI “what?!” CENSOR!!! It’s amazing!!!😂😂😂
the chorus of souls sounds like it opens with "silence all" "say no more" to me but ive also listened to this song an unhealthy amount of times and may be going insane
Idk if anyone else has said this but I think the “man who is haunting” is still Odysseus after his voyage. If you know the source material he certainly has a trail of bodies. Therefore, “a man who gets to make it home alive, but it’s no longer you” is Odysseus after he becomes “the monster” and is unrecognisable from the man who set off from Ithica
8:55 Zeus’s strike after (man I can’t spells name) kills apollos cow is the sacrifice of man I think
7:39 Past? It’s the underworld. And in the underworld your past is never far behind….
I like to think that the first time the "Prophet song" is said it's referring to the past, while the Second time when He's answering Ody's question He's talking about events to come
It fits well with the "I see past and future running free" Lyric
The soul chorus in the backround is "siren song" "lightning bolt" "throat of scylla" "King of blood" and I'm pretty sure "fear of love"
I wonder if the first chorus is referring to the past - the iliad - and then the second chorus is referring to the future (the second act, to avoid spoilers). Jorge mentioned in one vid that the prophet is overwhelmed by past and future all at once...
The lines are for the chorus
Sirens song
Scyllas throat
Mutiny
Lightning bolt
Poseidon storm
Kill all the suitors for love
Make it home
If im correct
actually act 2 the thunder saga is coming on none other then July 4th. I know you recorded this a while ago but its coming. I am sure you guys might have already recorded some part of hanimations already and it will come on youtube later. I cant wait to see this and monster reaction. To bad hades never showed up so CF could see real hades instead of wet hades
The real Hades wouldn’t be wet hades, it would be thirst hades, because with all these talented animators I don’t think there would be anyone immune to simping over the underworld god
I might not know all the haunted chorus line, but I'm willing to bet that the very last line is just a single word: "Ody-sse-us" as the futrue version flies at the present version. answering Ody's "Who", and also following the style of when people get all their titles listed before their names get mentioned (like "king of blood")
i love how the animator portrayed the prophet with white glowing eyes instead of a blind fold
it kinda makes me feel like like his eyes arent in this present, theyre traveling through the possible futures
i love the line "i see you draw your final breath" because most people would think it is talking about odysseus dying, but its not its talking about the fact that after thunder bringer he has gone past the point of no return his whole crew is dead and technically he is the reason the last of them died so its the point where he fully accepts he has become a monster and at that point there is no going back for him he will make it home at all costs even if as the Prophet says it will no longer be him that makes it home.
OH! Little fun fact! There is a TikTok that someone posted that Jorge himself made another TikTok about. It talks about the chorus of the souls and what they’re saying!
“Siren song”
“Scylla throat”
“Mutiny”
“Lightning bolt”
“Run from Poseidon”
“Kill all the suitors for love!”
Ooh what if the backing vocal lines re-appear in a song in act 2 and that's why Jorge is keeping quiet about what the words are right now?
I WAS DAMN CLOSE
7:48 "i though we were done" about polites after listening to Wisdom Saga makes this so much more funny like ooh boy
The chants I hear:
Siren Song
Scylla's Cost(Or Silent Halls)
Mutiny
Lightning Bolt
Fight Poseidon
Kill all the Suitors for Love
My theory: The next songs in this whole musical will have to do with these things. Siren Song is one of the next songs "Suffering", Scylla's Cost/Calls is the song "Scylla", Mutiny is the song after Scylla where Odysseus and Eurylochus fight, Lightning Bolt is the song after, it's Thunder Bringer. Fight Poseidon is after the songs "Dangerous" and "Charybdis" where he is almost home but Poseidon meets him and screws with him. He fights poseidon, tortures him into calling off the storm, then heads back home. Killing all the Suitors for Love makes sense after knowing there are Suitors who are threatening to hurt Telemachus and Penelope because they think Odysseus is dead. I think he'll kill them and reunite. (This is from what i know from info from the Odyssey and just using the song names.
Does anyone remember mr Peabody and Sherman, did you know Odysseus is in there too(in the trojan war part), but Odysseus there is a little bit different from epic animatics badass Odysseus 🙂🙂🙂
Just search and you will understand
Omg it’s so funny! I rewatched Mr. Peabody and Sherman and it was so funny when Agamemnon turns to lil’ Ody
I know right
Btw, incase you haven't seen it, the first 4 of lines of the background vocals have been comfirmed, and don't worry, they are not spoilers(Unless you have not seen thunder saga), the first 4 are refering to thunder saga
SPOILERS FOR THUNDER SAGA ONLY, DON'T LOOK IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THUNDER SAGA YET!!!!
1. Siren Song(Suffering)
2. Scylla Throat(Scylla)
3. Mutiny(Mutiny)
4. Lightning Bolt(Thunder Bringer)
Jorge comfirmed these, the first 4, but he said the other ones after are spoilers for sagas after Thunder Saga and didn't share them
I believe the words the spirits are saying are
"Siren song"
"Scylla throat"
"Mutiny"
"Lightning bolt"
"Whirlpool,Poseidon"
"Kill all the suitors for love"
The first four are confirmed the last two or speculation of what they might be
So, another animatic I’ve watched for this song that I absolutely love is from another creator called Krieo that had the first verse chorus being things that had already happened in act one and verse two chorus being flashes of what will happen in act two.
So verse one chorus had
Song of Past romance = Penelope or Cercie
Sacrifice of man = Odysseus dropping the infant
Portrayals of betrayal = the crew opening the bag
A brother’s final stand = the death of Polites
The second verse chorus is all spoilers for what is going to happen in act two but anyone who doesn’t know the Odyssey won’t know what those things mean until they actually happen.
I highly recommend going and watching it.
With captions on in that video it actually shows you the background vocals. Which are as follows
Siren song
Scylla throat
Mutiny
Lightning bolt
Whirlpool Poseidon
Kill the false suitors of love
The thing i love of this song, is that every event except of the ones of the Palace can be both past and future, making the line of i see past and future running free even greater.
Revolution Hades up next
LMFAO
@@CasperFox holy shit i didn't expect the Casper Inquisition
Funny how the person you’re referring to that’s in the TikTok and guessed some of the choir lyrics right is also gwendy, the same person who’s animatic you’re reacting to😂
I learned that after the fact, what are the odds??
Dudes dodging spoilers for a 3000 year old book
Ik most of these have pretty much been confirmed now but this is a guess I've seen and everything makes sense to apart from the first line
Summer song,
Scylla throat,
Mutiny,
Lightning bolt,
Fight posideon,
Kill all the sutoirs for love
The little riff at the end is what the soldiers sang in remember them
This song had no business being so heartbreaking, but I love it and the credit goes fully to Jorge, because in The Odyssey the prophet is just like "Yeah, you're good as longs as you don't do [this very specific thing that could be a spoiler even though I'm like 4 months late]"
Am I the only one that hears
Sold your soul
To you home
for the first two?
GIGGLING AND KICKING MY FEET RN IM SO HAPPY THIS VIDEO EXISTS BC I JUST CAUGHT UP IN EPIC SO I WENT OVER TO THIS CHANNEL TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD UP AHHHAISAHUEJSHS
Ok now Jay has confirmed the choir lyrics(kind of). “Siren song, scylla’s throat, mutiny, lightning bolt” are the first 4.
Don’t know what the 5th is and the 6th is a spoiler for an even later saga
I think the first time he sings the prophet is actualy refeeing to the past. The later half of the song when he starts repeating the chorus is about the future.
"Sacrifice of men" refering to polities at first and later refering to odysseus sacrificing 6 crew members to scylla.
The background chorus is this:
Siren song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lightning Bolt, Run Poseidon, Kill all the Suitors for Love.
One of those is absolutely not confirmed but sure 😆
@@officialmortius Oh, which one?
To me for the background vocals all I can depict is one of the verses saying you’re the king-the king of blood.
Tiresias really said "Hey you're gonna come home but that ain't you" and did the skeletor meme run
i thought with him seeing both past and future he was singing about events past and yet to come like penelope to scylla to opening the bag of wind then forward to a confrontation that spiraled out from that betrayal
Winions, be careful. The last time people gave in to curiousity and tried to see what was in the bag 557 men died.
i always interpreted it as the first go around of the chorus saying the past since he says "past and future" and the second round being the future.guess i was wrong, but that's always how i've interpreted the song.
You're not wrong, that's a very valid interpretation and one many others agree with.
The thing when Casper cursed and gigis odesseus from puppeter shows up and The lil Muppet singing when Casper was talking were my two fav moments 😂❤❤(I really like your vids with Caspers reactions, you two made my day😊)
Just in case this isn't already known, the First bit of act 2 is suppose to drop July 4th. Can't wait to see it, as well as your reaction
The lyrics are BOTH! Past and future running free ;)
its been 3 months did anyone tell him the chanting in the back is what the prophet is saying what will happen in the future?