It was painful for my dad watching the trial back when it was happening, the shit with the glove. My dad works with leather so much he's basically an expert in it, and he was practically screaming at the TV "BLOOD SHRINKS LEATHER!!"
Blood doesn't shrink leather, nor does any other liquid. Wetting leather and then letting it dry will, but simply getting blood on it wouldn't have any effect alone.
If you've ever tried to put shoes or any garment on an angry toddler, then you know how much the body part must be willing and actively helping with the donning, or it ain't happening. Now multiply that times 5 (fingers) that don't want a glove to "fit." I was only 17 when I watched OJ "try" to put that glove on, and it was blatantly clear to me that he was doing the opposite of trying, LOL. And mind you we're talking about a leather glove, which is made to fit super tight anyway, and it's been sitting in a dry evidence room for godknows how long, after being collected from the ground in desertass Los Angeles, so it is very likely shrunken from dehydration.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 You made leather moccasins once, good for you. My dad works with leather all day, every day for 68 years, I'll take his word over yours. Moreover, I've definitely had my own leather gloves shrink up to useless shit from getting wet.
What still haunts me about this case is the children were home and asleep upstairs the whole time, they were so used to hearing OJ rage at Nicole like that that it didn’t even wake them. This was just a regular occurrence. That tells you so much about what kind of person OJ is.
I know right! I never knew they had kids until watching The People vs OJ Simpson show, more specially the 1st episode when the police searched the house, and they showed two kids asleep. It surprised me to the point that I talked to my mom about it, and she verified that they were indeed inside the house and asleep with the murders took place. It's haunting to think that they were a floor above and just a couple dozen feet away from where their mother was killed. I can only imagine what the kids would have thought about that. I hope it never crossed their minds.
The saddest part of this case imo is actually OJ and Nicole’s poor kids, who had to grow up with this hanging over them, being raised with their dad who killed their mom and got away with it. They are the victims that are always forgotten
Unfortunately as the majority of such murders do happen in such a way it's not the rarest of occurences that children suddenly end up with one parent dead and the other in prison (or I guess not here)...
lol 😂 lol 😂 lol 😂 lol 😂 Oh Jay, Jon Bennett, Scott & Laci Peterson, Jayme Kloss, Chris Watts and countless other Murdered Stories ALL have one common denominator. The Narratives are 100% Fiction… lol D U H !!!
That poor girl was betrayed by everyone who should have protected her. Her "loving" husband was abusing her, the police didn't do anything, her parents sold her trust and safety time and time again, her friend slandered her for money and publicity, and even after her death, together with probably the only friend who stood by her, they destroyed her reputation, the prosecutors dropped the ball, chose the wrong experts and the jury refused to give her justice.
I totally agree! It really seems that the one person willing to stand up for her was Ronald, who unfortunately paid the ultimate price... That is definitely what broke my heart the most... That this poor woman, who really fucking tried to get out of a bad situation time and time again, ended up being killed in cold blood for just daring to exist while rejecting her abusive ex and daring to have other male friends. The fact that this pos just snapped because he thought she was about to have a date with someone else, and didn't even kill the "right guy" is peak misogyny. Also, the "hate the police" sentiment that apparently gave this absolute pos most of the support that he had is obviously understandable, given Rodney King and the obvious systemic racism of American police. HOWEVER, are we forgetting WHY we hate them? It's for being corrupt, it's for planting evidence, it's for leaving vulnerable people, like Nicole, in the hands of her abuser, TIME AND TIME AGAIN... That's when and why we hate the police. Not when they actually do their jobs and lock up the actual murderer... If there is one time that I think we can all get behind the police is when they arrest a dangerous suspected murderer who happens to be filthy rich and holds little soirees for his cop buddies! I mean, wtf people! So, because white police officers killed an innocent black man before, now another random black man gets to kill two other innocent white people in cold blood, and that's justice!?! It isn't, and you know it isn't. Do better. And once again, my heart goes to only the real victims in this case, Nicole and Ronald, and their families and friends. You both deserved so much better.
@@b4rbarbar What??? One murdered black person? I think you need to get your facts correct! I'm by no means justifying what OJ did. He should have been convicted on 2 counts of 1st degree murder. But how dare say say oh one black person was murdered! The audacity! You're ignorance is beyond belief. You have no damn clue what black people have been through & still going through! Those police officers who didn't arrest for domestic battery on Nichole we're WHITE! Why didn't her parents step in & get her away from that maniac who they knew damn well was beating their daughter? I guess they didn't want to risk making OJ mad at them & stop the money he was surely giving them!! An the next time you want to rant and rave on the miscarriage of Justice why don't you analyze & figure out how in the hell Casey Anthony was found not guilty of killing 2 year old Caylee. She didn't have a dream team of lawyers she had a sleazy no account attorney. Her jury was white. Did race play a part In her case? Everybody knows OJ got away with murder Rob & Nicole will never get the Justice they both deserve. But saying oh the cops murdered one black person what's the Big deal? It just shows your lack of intelligences & your clear stupidity! You know it's been nothing but White ppl on the news lately accused of the most unimaginable demonic sadistic things. An the ones who have been convicted Joel Guy Jr put his mother's head in a pot of water & Left it on the stove to slowly boil. Anthony Todt murdered his whole family. Richard Allen? Steven McDaniels? that lunatic who murdered those 4 innocent college students? Chandler Halderson the things he did to his parents bodies is beyond disgusting disturbing deviant sadistic what an evil POS what about all of the heartbreaking school shootings? All white shooters? That insane cop who kidnapped that 15 year old girl didn't he murder the 3 adults in the house before the kidnapping ? So maybe you should climb off of your high horse. If you're going to talk about black ppl then you need to include the white ones!
Thank you Liam for wanting Ronald Goldman to not be forgotten. So often happens in reports of this, and the respect you want him to be given is admirable.
I'm not sure why Liam dismissed the racism from the jury so quickly. They obviously didn't care about the white victims including Goldman, and the foreman (a black panther) did a black power salute after the verdict.
To put into perspective how popular the "OJ in the bronco" coverage was, it occured during the NBA Finals and news stations were covering the chase over the game.
There was so much evidence left out of this trial. Stuff the jury never heard. Even though the prosecution didn't have the photo of OJ wearing the Bruno Magli shoes that left the bloody prints at the crime scene, theyhad witnesses who could have testified to having seen them, including Nicole's own sister. They had people who saw OJ fleeing the scene of the crime who never testified. There was a person at the airport that night who saw OJ throwing a dark object into a dumpster, and that person never testified, either. The Isotoner gloves that were soaked in blood were extremely rare designer gloves only sold in two locations in the whole country, and they knew OJ bought a pair. They didn't even use OJ's incriminating police interview after he returned from Chicago, the one in which Lang and Vannatter asked him about the cut on his thumb and OJ said he couldn't remember how he got it. The jury never heard any of this. It's ridiculous that this much evidence was left out of the trial.
Oh that really pissed me off that lady sold her story to hardcopy for $5000. She almost got in an accident with OJ fleeing the scene. So $5000 was worth more to this Effing woman than two people that were butchered.
@@tanikahutcherson4839 OJ, Casey Anthony, Amber Heard. All narcissistic people. I don’t know if Amber is capable of murder but that trial was fun to watch. Poor Johnny. Glad that he stood up for himself no matter what it cost him. Her lies were exposed in front of millions.
There's a video of Robert Kardashian taking OJs garment bag. That's why he was put on the defense team. He couldn't be called as a witness about the contents of that garment bag.
Thank you for your hard work Liam! I like the perspective you give to the scripts. And more videos in the courtroom style would be good (as per Simon’s last question/statement).
Ah, you're the writer. I think it was for the most part very factual, albeit biased in what facts were included like most media coverage of the trial. An excellent example of a surface level view of what happened. I'll be clear, I think OJ is a dirt bag and I think he may have been involved in some way, but the actual facts don't support him actually killing anyone. I wish you would have gone into how the "If I Did It" book was completely ghost written and only endorsed by Simpson as a desperate cash grab. How the Goldman's got complete control of the book before it was released and designed the cover themselves to make it look as damning as possible. I also wish you would have gone into how little blood was actually found in this "blood trail" (literal droplets) from the crime scene to Simpson's estate, the fact that it was found after Simpson willingly gave blood to investigators, how one of the detectives was exposed for driving around town with said blood, and how there was EDTA (a blood preservative used when collecting blood) in the samples recovered from the crime scenes. I could go on about the shoe patterns as well, but my point is Simpson's guilt is much less clear when all facts are presented.
It’s not “beyond all doubt” it’s “beyond all *reasonable* doubt.” That’s an important distinction that I think a lot of jurors miss. There is almost always room for some doubt in any case. That’s where applying reason is crucial.
This case just proved the incompetency of all the lawyers involved. With the evidence they had, and witnesses to call, this case should have been over in 6 weeks.
They instruct the jury to vote guilty if the prosecution proved their case beyond a REASONABLE doubt - which in this case, they failed to do.@@Im-Kaspa
@mspennyisaac i agree they didnt make their case. As i said, having been on the other side that is reasonable doubt. If you are not 100% sure that defendant is guilty it is reasonable in your mind he didnt do it Ps. It is fair to say you must convince the jury thay is the point. If it isnt reasonable they would not doubt it or so that is the thinking. It doesnt always work
I watched this as a young recent college graduate, holding a degree in Criminal Justice. This trial showed me that court was more about acting and money than law, and detoured me off my path to law school. He was so guilty. It also really bothered me that there was so much speculation about the relationship between the victims. She was divorced, it didn't matter.
@@scifi_shop Nah, as tempting as it might seem, that's just addressing a wrong with another wrong. I do think if vigilantism was legal for a day, we'd have a lot fewer people the next day. We really just need an actual blind justice system. Dreamers can dream.
If you think acting had anything to do with it you are blissfully unaware of the actual reason. I'll put it to you this way, in the documentary OJ Made in America, one of the black women that was on the jury says "we take care of our own". They blame the cops that beat Rodney king getting off on all charges is the reason but that wouldn't have mattered the least bit. Black people are told from birth that all their problems are because white people. They are the ones that are preached hate all their childhoods so any chance to stick it to white people they take. It still goes on with juries to this day. I forgot the name of the girl but like Nicole she was white and a black person was charged with oj level evidence against him but after two trials they both have ended in a hung jury. You dont need me to tell you what the skin color was for the ones voting not guilty.
It's also worth mentioning, for those unfamiliar with american football, running backs are basically on a spectrum from little speedsters like Barry Sanders who rely on avoiding defenders, to big bruisers who could just run over would-be tacklers. Oj was the latter, he made some of the biggest and hardest hitting athletes on the planet fold up like a lawn chair. *And he still had world-class speed.* I'm just saying he'd be one of the scariest people I could imagine being attacked by.
OU could barely walk at the time. Do you know the toll football takes on the body especially the knees? I swear you people are so blind by your racism that you don’t use common sense…
So I am utterly unfamiliar with Ametican football I barely know football (soccer). I read that 4 times but I don't get it... my brain is not wired for sports. I've played baseball a fair number of times for a non American and I do not understand most of the rules. I just trust the ref is fair lol... you would probably have to explain it with puppets and diagrams, preferably colour coded and then I will politely pretend to understand and nod my head while imagining I'm rolling a huge joint.
Argh, a 2h episode to index : i think i'm going to need the entire week for this one... 6:30 - Chapter 1 - A task for the audience 10:05 - Chapter 2 - Gathering the oranges 12:55 - Chapter 3 - Creating the juice 22:05 - Chapter 4 - She was a girl, he was a w8ter boy 31:30 - Chapter 5 - The 12th of June 40:25 - Chapter 6 - Setting the stage 45:20 - Chapter 7 - Dramatis personae 53:50 - Chapter 7.1 - Marcia clark & chris darden 57:20 - Chapter 7.2 - Judge Ito 57:55 - Chapter 7.3 - The reality stars 59:05 - Chapter 8 - The opening statements & character witnesses 1:09:15 - Chapter 9 - The prosecution places the pieces of the puzzle 1:13:00 - Chapter 10 - The prosecution crumbles 1:25:40 - Chapter 11 - The man who got OJ Free 1:31:30 - Chapter 12 - The defense begins to struggle 1:43:10 - Chapter 13 - Don't record your crimes 1:55:55 - Chapter 14 - Over to the jury 2:05:05 - Chapter 15 - (If) he did it 2:06:00 - Wrap up 2:07:20 - Dismembered appendices
Ya, I was living in mission Viejo then. I remember how everyone at work was incredibly disappointed when he was found not guilty. We were listening to the verdict on the radio.
I forget the source but I heard recently it didn't sell well then the families sued for the book rights to pay judgement and repackaged it with the "if" tiny and a bloody footprint on the cover
@@splendidpursuitsyeah, I think the original circulation copies of if I did it go for several thousand. The version with OJ’s face in the court room. I have a hard back of the one with the crime scene tape on the front (the first edition of the Goldman one), think there’s been a new edition so maybe my one will be worth something one day 😅 got it for £3 from a jumble sale type of shop last year.
In Canada it inspired a politician convicted of killing his wife to write something like it except it was more like ‘if I didn’t do it’, blaming some conspiracy that had never been mentioned before he published the book. The guy did it though. Even left a signed receipt at the crime scene.
Don’t blame Simon, you’re an addict and will blame anything and everything for qyour habit. Please, come to a meeting. You’re only 12 steps away from freedom😊
Fun fact: the pope has written a book detailing his views on the church’s role in today’s changing culture. The book is titled, “God Himself told me that OJ is guilty.” Norm Macdonald is awesome.
Whoa. I found it in "Variety". Schwarzenegger made the claim and added that he has concept art with OJ's face. Cameron says that none of it is true; he says that an exec pitched it and that he rejected it out-of-hand before it got any traction.
The thing about the book OJ wrote, IF I DID IT the parents of Ron & Nicole got his release of book blocked but once they got a copy of it they realized he basically admitted to the murders, it had something to do with them having rights to the property because of the civil lawsuit, they allowed it to be published and the reason the “IF” is so small is because they directed it to be that way.
The real strange part about the book was the ghost writer. He lived across from the Bundy residence and testified for the prosecution during the trial.
The police dropped the ball and he had that good lawyer money. We studied all the mistakes in my college forensics class it was a full class of "don't do this"
A freaking juror was quoted as saying "we take care of our own" on a documentary that was nationally televised. The only "don't do" that would have made any difference is let a Malibu case be determined by a south central jury. As soon as the trial was moved out of Malibu it was over.
I have always been amazed that hiring all these lawyers left him with anything at all for the Goldman’s and the Brown’s to sue him for. One other lesson, professional sports people/actors, are way overpaid.
The main thing that bothered me was when the blood evidence that was carried around. It should have immediately been booked in to evidence and not carried around. That led to a lot of speculation as to what was done with this blood. Did the police use it to frame him? I don’t think they did but it leads to questions. Also what was Chris thinking asking OJ to try on the glove? Glove’s that get wet get stiff. Isotoners are hard to get on even if they aren’t stiff with blood. OJ was an actor and played that up beautifully. And Johnny Cochran was magnificent. If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit. Magnificent. And yes he did it.
@@butterbeanqueen8148 letting OJ direct the trying on of the gloves was incredible. "Here, OJ, try these on, and if they fit you're in big trouble. If they don't, you can go and play golf." How well do you think he's going to try and make them fit?
Fun fact: there is a TH-camr named Legal Vices who is a lawyer going through EVERY DAY of the OJ Simpson trial and providing legal commentary and analysis in real time as if January 2023.
I am retired from law enforcement. Not long after the OJ Simpson trial, I was at a homicide seminar where one of the featured speakers was Henry Lee, Ph.D. At the time Lee was considered the foremost forensic scientist in the U.S. He was retained by Simpson's defense team. When he opened his presentation up to questions he was immediately bombarded with questions about the OJ trial. At that point De. Lee explained he never said Simpson was innocent. He explained how one person could not have cleaned up the crime scene the way it had been. The trial was a travesty. The judge lost control of the courtroom. The prosecutors did a terrible job, they were totally outplayed by the defense team.
That is absolutely correct. I've always thought Dr. Lee was the best, and I paid close attention to what he said. Unfortunately, it went over everyone's head.
@@kitsunefox2023 Not everyone feels the need to dumb everything down to two sentences because most of the world has lost their attention span and propensity towards reading, at times a story needs words to be told, no one is forcing you to read it.
@@kitsunefox2023but wasted twice the time coming back to a video to make a comment about .. a comment you didn’t even read? Somebody make it make sense 😂😂😂
One of the craziest aspects of this case is the defense made it about the racist LAPD framing a rich black man but in reality the LAPD were star struck by O.J. they would be inappropriately chummy with him on calls for domestic violence and completely let him go. If anything the LAPD's culpability is due to their negligence, not some nefarious racist cops planting evidence. If anything they worshipped the guy if not for his acting, then for his time at USC and the NFL.
Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman have been given all the respect that they so deserve here, Liam and Simon and colleagues - everybody has seen the sensationalised soap opera, so I can't actually think of a better way to honour their memory than to present the details of the case, exactly as they were at the time, with a clear and concise explanation as to why the case reached the outcome that it did. I'm sure, wherever those two good people are, they will have appreciated the effort to which you went. As for the infamous individual at the centre of the soap opera - I think it's about time the world stopped talking about him, and forgot that he ever existed.
He is a no buddy who is not worthy of a mention. This one action has shadowed all done before into oblivion and made all future actions worthless. The same with any who has done or will do the same. That person doesn’t matter
I didn't know Simon has a writer who's a lawyer. 😯 I want more of this type of stuff with the focus on the court case. Enjoyed this very much, thank you Liam!
He's written two episodes about crazy jury trials over on Simon's Brain Blaze channel, to tide you over while you wait for some more courtroom drama over here :) Can't link because TH-cam will delete the comment, but searching for "brain Blaze jury" should get you there.
I was in 4th grade when the trial concluded. Our teacher wheeled in a television on a stand, plugged it in, and told us not to talk. We all watched silently, half of the students rooting for a sports hero and half of us rooting for justice. When the verdict was read it was met with cheers and groans of disappointment. Listening to these silly boys hoot and holler made my stomach churn. It has always stuck with me. I work with victims of domestic violence now.
I had a similar experience. I didn’t remember many details or facts of the trial but I do remember when not guilty was announced all of the black kids and teachers cheering. I remember a feeling of us vs them about race during that announcement. It wasn’t about is justice being done or did he commit murder. Gave me a better understanding about race relations in our country that’s for sure.
I was on a class field trip and everyone stopped and watched this small TV set. We were all floored. It taught me a valuable lesson. If you have money and lawyers that could control the narrative, you will not go to prison. If he was a poor man, he would have gotten life with no parole or the death penalty. Money is what makes the legal system unfair.
I was in 5th grade, I remember that the teachers went from class to class giving eachother updates on the trial. When the message about the verdict came in my teacher (a lady) threw a book across the room and screamed "How did he get away with it?" You're correct Simon, this was a huge deal in America that even as a 10 yr old in school we got daily updates on it courtesy of the morbid fascination of our teachers Maybe it's why I love Casual Criminalist so much today, who's to say?
Agreed. I really enjoyed this format. Present the facts and let us make our ruling same as the jurors. Downside of this one is that I remember this whole trial so already knew the verdict. But this would be even more awesome on cases that are less well known.
This case makes me more angry than any other. He very obviously butchered those two people and left a TONNE of evidence behind but he got off because of the racial climate at the time and because the prosecution made a few crucial mistakes. Makes me sick that he's still walking around free.
He was famous, an adored football star, and had money, that had a lot to do with it. I have a friend who says that proved the country had made some progress on our serious racism problem, because finally money and fame had more influence on the outcome than the defendant's race.
There was definitely more evidence to say he did, rather than didn’t, but so many factors allowed in skewed the jury, and the prosecution let way too much slide without objection. They basically let the defence get away with way too much.
He absolutely 100% did it. A first week criminal psychologist trainee would tell you it has personal cause homicide stamped all over it. Hitmen do not kill like this.
@@d_jedi1 Yes of course I have. Who hasn't? It's an alleged technique used by gangsters and drug dealers, usually to make an example of someone. But such kills still do not show the type of overkill present on the unfortunate Nicole unless the person doing it had a lot of anger against the victim on top of it. Also from Wikipedia (such a source that it is): " It is commonly referenced in popular culture and pulp fiction, although there is no verifiable evidence of it having occurred in the United States and its purported usage by domestic drug dealers is likely an urban legend." I really do not understand why you are having trouble with this quite simple idea and I really do not understand the point you are trying to make?
Soon after he was found "not guilty," SNL did a skit where actors (one portraying Simpson) were in a pre-game discussion. The other asked how one team could win the game. The Simpson actor proceeds to draw a game plan on the screen that slowly forms the words "I DID IT." The audience could see what was happening about halfway through, and the "holy s*it" look on the fellow actor's face while Simpson stood there grinning was hilarious!
MadTV has sketches on here about OJ like a dating show and him going around the house like the real one OJ did. It's hilarious, so much funnier than SNL
The sister of Ron Goldman has a podcast about the families of those going through tragic trials like this case. She also talks to Matt Shepards mom, a dad from the Parkland shooting, and a bunch of others as well. It’s called Media Circus.
I really feel for Ron Goldmans family. I feel for Nicole as well, her parents let her down time and again. She might still be alive if they weren't so money hungry. That friend of hers was no friend. Poor Nicole let down by the people who should love and protect her, especially her husband. I feel the mostly for the children, how vile for them, so hard to grow up with this mess they didnt ask for or need this.
she never cheated they were already separated for months at the point of her murder. plus no one DESERVES getting killed, although cheating is abhorrent and despicable..no one deserves to go out like nicole and ron did @@disclaimer.imjokin
@@disclaimer.imjokinShe didnt cheat. Her and Ron werent even together. Not one person said they had seen or knew of them being together romantically. OJ was just a jealous jerk that beat women…
Ronald Shipp was my neighbor at my family home and is a good family friend. I remember him telling me a few years ago about his involvement in this case. He orignally didnt want to testify, but they showed him the pictures and he felt that he had to. He lost many friends and was slammed in the media because of it. He is a great guy and didnt deserve any of that.
At the time of and in the aftermath of the “Trial” of the century their were those who were saying that “Race” relations were irreparably damaged by the O.J. Situation !!!. A little bit of time went by and Barak “Saddam Hussein” Obama became our President and he single handedly healed our nation of any further “Racial” trauma !!!. ( HA, HA, HA, HA, HA !!!. ) Yours truly Will VanNess
Back at the time of the OJ murder trial, one of my buddies was at law school here in Germany and regurarly visited classes about the differences between Germany's and the US's justice systems. The professor giving these classes used footage of the trial as an example to point out the many differences between the two systems and came to the conclusion that there was NO WAY that OJ would have been aquitted over here. We don't have juries deciding if somebody is guilty or not, the judges will do that and in regard of the vast amount of solid DNA evidence found at the crime scene, in OJ's house, in OJ's cars, on OJ's clothes, on the victims' bodies, on the murder weapon, on top of that the recorded history of OJ abusing Nicole, the circumstancial evidence about the murder weapon and the weapon OJ was trained on for that canceled tv show, his obvious attempts to provide himself with an alibi, etc., etc., no German judge would ever had any doubts of OJ being the killer, and because he killed two people on one occasion, one simply because being a witness, a German judge would probably attested the "besondere Schwere der Schuld" ("special severity of guilt/delinquency"), which would probably have resulted in OJ still being in prison today, as even though most convicted murderers get paroled after having served 16-20 years over here, convicted murders who were attested "besondere Schwere der Schuld" however usually serve MUCH longer, especially if they're still considered a threat to society, which is very likely in case somebody butchered two people like OJ obviously did. He murdered Ms. Brown Simpson and Mr. Goldman....and because she the jury fell for a bogus conspiracy theory and a stupid little verse, he's still free, tweeting and vlogging BS. It's a bloody shame, no pun intended.
We have issues with judges having a bias, and juries work better in most cases. This case had several problems from the start. OJ was a celebrity and very beloved. It was unthinkable because his public image was flawless. Even though the police had responded to several DV calls, he was never in serious trouble. The New Year's Eve call in 1989 was said to be the 9th time they had responded. Nicole was hiding in the yard and came to the gate when the police got there. She was wearing only sweatpants and a bra and was visibly injured. She was terrified, and she kept saying that he (OJ) was going to kill her. They intended to take him in. He was told to get some clothes on but OJ got onto a neighbor's property and fled. DV is a cycle that is very much like brainwashing. Nicole, like many others, hid it. It is their dirty little secret, and they believe it is their fault and they are ashamed. So the rules are you have a jury of your peers. They were not his peers. He should have been tried in his actual living community. It was a much smaller courthouse and had been damaged in the last earthquake. They moved it downtown. Nothing was done correctly. It became an insane feeding frenzy with every defense lawyer trying to get their fifteen minutes and cash in. A perverted and obscene spectacle. Everyone knew he was guilty, and I do mean EVERYONE. Jury nullification is technically illegal, but good luck trying to prove it. None of the jurors was going to admit it, but none of them made any type of sense. There was an entire book that didn't make sense by three of the jurors. It was many years later when one juror confirmed what we suspected. The civil trial was an eye-opener since the big fat liar had to testify. WOW!, he is a terrible liar. It is a day in history that will be remembered
Hindsight is 20/20, I think your German professor was working on the hearsay brought forward by the media, German judges would not have heard about the tv show or any of the other things you listed because the Prosecution did not introduce it during trial. Also, DNA was so new Judges were learning about it just as the jurors were and when something is that new it takes years b4 it becomes bulletproof as it is today so your analogy only works if all your judges have the presence of mind to throw out everything they know and put all their faith in a new scientific finding especially in such a high profile case. I don't know if your justice system must prove beyond reasonable doubt or if the level of defense is based on your wealth but I find it hard to believe any country would have found it differently in that unique timeline, I believe OJ was guilty with every fiber of my being but looking at just the facts brought out at trial I would have voted not guilty too.
One man should not be judge jury executioner. Most people make there mind up about guilt rather fast and no matter how much evidence they are shown to disprove them they will still have that bias. With a judge being the sole person to determine someone’s guilt they are going to be sending a lot of innocent people to prison
Thank you, Liam, for the massive amount of work this must have been to complete! I remember watching the car chase! I didn't watch the trial but my father (newly retired at the time) watched it ALL on Court TV.
"Trusting twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty" is one of those magical sentences that says so much with so little. Thank you sir.
As a girl born in 1990, I have learned barely anything about this case. I really appreciate this breakdown because it was mostly new information and I have always been curious about what happened but felt information was too spread out and contradictory for me to make sense of it. This was amazing for fixing that and I really appreciate it!
Another 90s kid here, totally know what you mean. This is the first I've heard a proper breakdown of the case. I was only aware of the glove line, that the prosecution fucked up (didn't know how), the white bronco car chase, and the book "If I Did It". But like, only nebulously? Like I already kinda figured OJ murdered his wife, got acquitted, and proceeded to brag about getting away with murder, but nobody I know really talks about this case outside that superficial capacity.
Jeez 90s kid here. Heard it too many times to count. But I am black so well. I guess I cared when all that black melodrama was being hammered into me. 😂
@13:54 - The Heisman Trophy is awarded yearly to the most outstanding collegiate football player. Since 1936, any regional limitations were removed and it is now a national award.
Thank you for remembering Nicole and Ron. I was appalled at the verdict, but my mother reminded me that the jury did not hear all of the evidence provided. I, too, know that the verdict was given as payback for the Rodney King and other such cases that had occurred within the two years previous.
I think they probably started questioning their verdicts when it was over because suddenly the entire nation was questioning them and they were basically known as fuckups who got an obvious case wrong. They were probably more than happy to get their little revenge, only to go, "Oh shit" when they realized just how big the case was. They're forever the people who got an obvious killer off because they were petty. The victims had nothing to do with anything, but they threw an abused woman and innocent man (and personally, I always thought he probably died trying to save her) under the bus.
I always wondered if the jury only said "not guilty" because they were done dealing with the case. They ignored all the evidence just because they wanted to go home.
I believe that some of the jury did go with what was presented and made the judgement solely on what they heard. That said, I also believe that a good number of the jury would have went with "Not Guilty" even if the case proved OJ to be the killer without a shadow of the doubt.
I was in the seventh grade when they wheeled in tv's on carts using rabbit-ear antennae to get reception of the case. We were all of us shocked at how a man was found not guilty next to such overwhelming evidence. Let that sink in. Seventh graders could see this man was guilty. He walked free.
I was in seventh grade too. I had the radio on my Sony Walkman and listened live while they announced the verdict. The Math teacher stopped class so I could tell everyone what happened. I also remember that Marcia Clark had a few different hairstyles during the trial, and the tv show Entertainment Tonight had people call in to vote for their favorite style. Total. Circus. 😮
@@jessgunn6639it was very common to bring TVs into classrooms to cover anticipated events like NASA rocket launches. News like the assassination of Pres, Kennedy would be announced on the PA. It would be impractical to only cover an event during a related class. For one thing , VCRs hadn't been invented yet so live broadcasts happened when they happened. On JFKs assassination our school made the decision not to tell grade schoolers. My sister was in 6th grade, and she and her classmates could tell that something bad had happened, and concluded that the Russians had launched the bomb, and they were about to die, without seeing their parents and families again. Holding back upsetting info from kids isn't a good plan.
I was in my 20s when this happened, and I have always thought he was not only guilty but a horrible person. It makes me visibly angry that's he's retained even a small bit of infamy.
I was 13 when the infamous Bronco chase happened. Loving cars as a kid, I was thinking why the hell would you use a Bronco as a getaway car? I always knew he was guilty. It just didn't make sense that it was a random act. Anyways, it was the 90s and the news went crazy over this story. Good times, before the social media boom.
I recently rewatched the documentary O.J. Made in America, and it is one of the best documentaries of all time. Covers sports, race, politics, crime, the justice system and O.J. Simpson. Highly recommended
Before I even start the video, I have to say that this was "the case" for me. I was about 10 when this became "the case" that got me hooked on Court TV, "the case" that got me into learning about the psychology of serial killers in high school, and ultimately "the case" that led me to watching this channel now.
Honestly I feel for Fung. When you are truly interested in a field, you often want to show off all you know and focus on the incredible details, or the severity of the situation. When you get all excited you tend to over explain and overload the person. I struggle with this at work. I explained suspension parts to customers and I can easily start going way overboard. That’s why I keep old parts on my tool box. I can show customers what I’m talking about and it keeps me on track. With his final action of hugging and stuff, odds are he was just in shock because he realized he blundered that so badly, in front of everyone in the United States and more. He probably was in a sense of shock and just did what felt right. Dude is a nerd, and so am I… same for every person who finds a hobby or interests. He had his chance to show the world this amazing new science, and he botched it up.
My family was obsessed with this case. I remember we watched the car chase in shock. I was in college & working at the time but they made me set the VCR timer to tape it every day because they didn't know how to work it. And at night after work/on the weekends my mother, my uncle who lived in a different apt. in the same building, my oldest cousin who lived down the block, occasionally my aunts when they'd come to help out my uncle, and several other cousins would be in and out. watching it. My uncle mainly was the one, he didn't miss a minute of it. I'd watch as I did homework or chores. I was on the bus on my way to class when the jury was coming back, by the time I got to class every TV the college had was in a classroom and everyone-- students, office workers, etc.-- were around a TV to watch. A lot of people cheered the verdict and a lot of others groaned... I honestly never understood how anyone thought he was innocent.
It was basically made a race issue. Black people thought he was innocent and being prejudiced by the historically racist LAPD, and white people thought he was guilty because of the evidence.
I was watching the trial on Sky News in Dublin, and shouting, "wet gloves shrink when they dry"when they tried that glove on Simpson. The prosecutor really dropped the ball with that.
I'm honestly surprised by Robert Kardahshian and how deeply he seemed to regret his part int he trial. It haunted him for the rest of his life. I guess some lawyers do have souls.
@@hockeypnc3 Actually, he was. From Wikipedia: "Simpson was charged with the murders and subsequently acquitted of all criminal charges in a controversial criminal trial. Kardashian had let his license to practice law become inactive before the Simpson case but reactivated it to aid in Simpson's defense as a volunteer assistant on his legal team, alongside Simpson's main defense attorneys, Robert Shapiro and Johnnie Cochran. As one of Simpson's lawyers and a member of the defense "Dream Team", Kardashian could not be compelled or subpoenaed to testify against Simpson in the case, which included Simpson's past history and behavior with his ex-wife Nicole, and as to the contents of Simpson's garment bag.[17] He sat by Simpson throughout the trial."
Mad respect to Liam and his research/writing. Thank you for shedding light on Ronald and Nicole's life and clarifying their relationship. Unfortunately, majority of media would rather tell a scandalous story than the truth.
Such an statement on humanity to have a savage murderer walk free with everyone knowing he got away with his heinous crime and yet him still having fans and people that enjoy his content. The crime is not only the murder, is everything else and around it...
One thing that really bothers me about the OJ trial is it overshadowed the reports of the Rwandan Genocide, which was occurring at the same time. Horrible. 1994 seems like an evil year
I was in L.A., in my first year of law school, while the trial was being held. In my second year, Chris Darden taught me Criminal Procedure. His first day of class, he closed the classroom doors, turned off his microphone (he was the only prof I ever had who used one while teaching) and told us: " to get it out of our system ... you have one day to ask me anything about the trial you wish." Long story short, there are so many things left out of this video (although, this is not meant to be disparaging: Simon and his writers are always brilliant), which I wish had been discussed. Number one involves how the jury was selected (a process called Voir Dire). Simon inadvertently touched on this in the video when he highlighted how little the jury seemed to care about the victims' families.
They were the worst peices of shit that could have possibly been chosen. One of them was an abuse victim that projected her shit onto Nichole. Absolutely disgusting. I would have 12 angry men'd the absolute hell out of that jury room. Hung jury or guilty. No budging.
In an interview Marcia Clark said one of the jurors was an ex-Black Panther who stood up after the verdict and gave the Black Power salute. She had no idea at the time.
So? Voice dire allows both the defense AND prosecution to choose the jury. Any jurors was agreed on by both parties. It is well documented that Marcia Clark ignores her own research which showed that blackvwomen were sympathetic towards oj. She chose them anyway. The woe is me regarding voir dire is a bit much when they have the power to exclude
I have to say, I wasn't going to watch/listen to this one but I'm glad I did. Wonderful insight from a lawyer's perspective as well as something a little more about the victims. RIP to them both.
I so enjoy the presenter, Simon, with his humor, spontaneity, and humanity, and Liam, with his thorough and intelligent writing, that I no longer have to feel guilty about my fascination with true crime videos! Thank you, both!
You have no idea just how big this was. I'm not too fond of sports either, I don't follow them, but even I knew who OJ Simpson was. He was a spokesperson for Hertz for years and the commercials he made for them had him running through an airport. He had the reputation of being one of the nicest guys you could ever know, people loved him. My daughter was in the fourth grade (maybe fifth). One day she came home from school and asked me who was OJ, and why was everybody talking about him? I explained and I said that it was as if Michael Jordan was charged with murder. She literally gasped loudly, and I knew she understood. Man what a sh*t show the next 10 months were!
Yeah for the Brits who mostly hadn't heard of OJ even at the time, it's the equivalent of David Beckham being tried on live TV for the murder of Victoria. Impossible to overstate how massively compelling this was!
great episode as usual! like you, i was pretty young when this case occurred (maybe like 6 or 7) but i do remember my parents being very absorbed in the news coverage of it, especially my mom, who was a homemaker back then and taking care of my sister and i while my dad worked. i brought up this video to her and she said, "i remember being sad when it was over, both because i felt justice hadn't been served but also because it had taken up so much of my time and energy i didn't know what to do afterwards." definitely the start of the 24 hour news cycle!
I was a young adult barely drinking age when this happened. My kids have asked me over the years why the country was so obsessed with an athlete/actor and the murder trial. The very best answer I could give? I picked one of their fave actors - I said Think of Duane the Rock Johnson- beloved by most, seems very nice etc.. imagine all this unfolding with the Rock. The lightbulb went off in their head then. They finally understood the impact. OJ was like that type of celebrity.
I was a young adult when all this happened, and it was obvious he was guilty despite the horrible choices the prosecution made. The defence did a good job of making Mark Fuhrman a red herring that threw off the jury. One woman at my college (who is African-American) was so excited he was voted Not Guilty that she went around campus shouting "We WON!!!" It was a little silly, because he was rich and famous and beloved of white people at the time. So it wasn't a Win for the average African American, as is so very obvious now. But knowing I'd be eviscerated for suggesting that, and not wanting to rain on her parade prevented me from pointing out the only color that matters is MONEY, and Fame doesn't hurt. And after watching this, putting the jury through so much shit they just wanted out. And also the recent Rodney King attack. One quibble: People didn't riot after the VHS tape of the beating was released, they rioted after the Not Guilty for all 4 officers who beat him was announced.
Simon and everybody, just want to say these long videos, though I taxing on you, are a godsend for me. They help me get through my work days, and I’m always learning something new as well as entertained. I really appreciate you guys!
Liam, THANK YOU so much for including the link to Rodney King in this whole thing. I lived in the south while this trial was going on, and, listening to the rumblings, I was convinced that there would be nation-wide rioting had OJ been found guilty.
@@tophers3756 Totally, 100% agree with you. However, this is the first time that I've heard someone cover this case on YT that mentioned the racial tension that was already present with the LAPD.
Agreed. I was in high school during the trial and I remember there was "murmuring" about what would happen if he was found guilty, both in the school and in the city.
@@cnsohm And they never mention the Latasha Harlins case which added to the pot in regards the black community’s justified disdain for the entire justice system!
Interesting childhood fact. F. Lee Bailey was the attorney for the National Bailbondsmen's professional society, for which my parents were presidents of. Since my parents took me everywhere, including jails and prisons starting at 3 days old, they took me (about 3 years then) to a congressional subcommittee about bail reform. F. Lee Bailey humored me during the long speeches by drawing caricatures of my parents, the senators, and the court officers during breaks. When O.J. happened my mom said "Girl, you keep those drawings. They're gonna be worth something to somebody someday."
You and I both know how he got away with it... However, if you actually say it you'll be branded something no one wants to be branded as....earned or not. Which is the point.... Dissent = guilty of being it...
@@AnthonyJ504 I had coworkers yelling and celebrating when the news came on the radio that he was acquitted. The rest of us were all standing there stunned. There could have been video of him doing it and they still would have said he was innocent. Thankfully the judge in that Las Vegas case threw the book at him.
@@siempreli4070 a big part of it was that one of the officers that was involved in the trial had past comments he used in the 1980s thrown at him during his time giving evidence. He had apparently used racist terms to describe African Americans and this become a focal point instead of the actual crime and was a part of OJ getting acquitted.
Thank you for covering this! I was also a kid when this happened (I'm just a couple years older than Simon), but ended up seeing a good chunk of the trial on CourtTV. We spent most of the summer at my grandparents' house and my grandmother was obsessed with the trial. She had it on the TV at every opportunity and would discuss the trial events with anyone who would give her the time of day. Thus going into this video, I knew a lot of facts about the trial but not everything, and it was viewed through the lens of a pre-teen so this video filled in a lot of the gaps!
Simon..when you said.."Oh..is that how the Kardashians are so rich.. That's depressing" is exactly how I felt when I first found out same..or rather I surmised.
Johnnie Cochran was thoroughly morally and ethically bankrupt, one of the worst real-life caricatures of all that gives lawyers a bad reputation. Me first, tribe second, everyone else can fend for themselves, and never hesitate to use any underhanded trick to get what you want. Anyone who views that guy as admirable should be viewed with extreme suspicion, and should probably recalibrate their moral compass.
I feel badly for Nicole's family but they partially contributed to the events that transpired by accepting hush money and letting O.J. remain in her life. She was done, they convinced her to give him another chance.
Her family essentially sold her to him. She was very very young when they met. The person I always hold space for is Ron Goldman who had nothing to do with any of it
OJ told Deniece (Nicole's sister) on live TV that their family always got money from him. That clip is on YT. The Browns aren't the most innocent family either
Thank you very much for covering this case, and doing so with much respect (as you always do). I completely agree that Ron Goldman is very much forgotten - it's such a shame. Amazing coverage of The Trial of the Century, Factboi! Well written, Liam! And thank you for your awesome editing wizardry, Jen!
I never forgot Ron Goldman's name. I was 14 when this happened. I still feel sick over this, just as the day it happened. I've never been able to see OJ's face in the tabloids without seeing a monster's face.
Willie Mays the "Say Hey Kid" was not only one of the best baseball players to ever play the game, but an outstanding human being as well. With his overtly positive attitude and outstanding athletic abilities, he was able to breakdown barriers for African Americans in baseball and other sports as well. With his fervor to play and his passionate approach to the game, he could make middle-aged men want to play the game. His athleticism was amazing and he was able ro make the game exciting to watch with acrobatic catches and long home runs. He was a great man who could have a tremendous effect on young men. Its easy to see how he could turn OJ in a different direction. R.I.P.
I was a kid and every single day I went to my Grandmas, this Trial was on her TV. It was THE story. EVERYONE talked about this. It was so crazy and strange, even to this day.
Well no shit. It was the only time in my 13 years of public school did every TV turn on and tune in to something not school related. That was the reading of the verdict. I happened to be in lunch but it was the same with those that were in class. Everybody was watching. The Time Square video is an all time classic. Don't know if it was staged or not but I'm sure the camera man knew what he was doing.
We were glued to it. I worked at a restaurant and had the TV on in the office and people kept coming back to watch. You'd go back to a table and just say - sorry, OJ trial. And they would nod. It's crazy &hard to describe.
This episode is interesting in that it focuses not on the crime and police work, but on the trial. Obviously most of the videos on this channel don’t have the trial take up more attention than the crime, but it would be interesting if there were more like this. I was in elementary school during the trial and knew of the outcome and it was interesting to hear the legal arguments analyzed
The OJ verdict was the first time I saw a cell phone in person, oddly enough. One of the mothers chaperoning a field trip brought one so someone watching at home could let her know when the verdict came in. I can still hear her frustrated groan when she heard he was found Not Guilty.
My buddy had one in 94 and I told him I need to go inside to make a phone call. He says just use this and I'm like does this thing really work? He said usually as long as I'm not too far out of town. I remember thinking this is amazing and it only made phone calls back then lol.
And not just the jury, but many in the Media too. The consensus in the Media was..."O.J. couldn't have murdered anyone, cause Mark Furman was a racist." It was disgusting. And so one has to wonder if the Media helped influence the jury..?
This is one of the cases that really made me ashamed of the US education system. I was in junior high and we watched the trial and read about it for a modern history class. When the verdict was read live, we had kids cheering in the room. I was like: "but a combination of his and the victim's DNA was at the scene, in his car, and at his home, how does anything think he didn't do this?".
Because the evidence was tampered with. If the LA police hadn't been racist assholes and tried to frame OJ then the verdict would probably been different
As I remember, a lot of people didn't care if he was guilty. They saw a not guilty verdict as a "get back" at the LAPD & all the times truly innocent black men were railroaded. OJ was a hero to a lot of people & they acted like it was a movie.
I remember this. I also remember being disgusted at this massive miscarriage of justice back then, even with the small amount of info we got in the UK, everyone knew he did it. And I'm still disgusted today at what they allowed to happen
There's an old saying here in the U.S. .." Money Talks and B**l S**t Walks " when it comes to anything to do with the government....yeah cops = government,Court =government, public education system= government, etc, etc, etc .... Got no $ then your screwed.
@@HumanBeing1974 As opposed to everywhere else, for the entirety of human history. Where justice was equally smeared across all social strata. Right. Welcome to the universe. You're on your own.
The fact that Liam is a lawyer makes this episode so much better. Thanks for putting this forward Simon. It's exemplary and deserves a place in the "greatest of".
I love how this gets recommended today 💀
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Me too omaooo
TH-cam knows it's shit 😂
How is he doing? 😂
Ironic 😭
It was painful for my dad watching the trial back when it was happening, the shit with the glove. My dad works with leather so much he's basically an expert in it, and he was practically screaming at the TV "BLOOD SHRINKS LEATHER!!"
Yes! Add in a latex glove and a little kid couldn't get that glove to fit.
Blood doesn't shrink leather, nor does any other liquid. Wetting leather and then letting it dry will, but simply getting blood on it wouldn't have any effect alone.
If you've ever tried to put shoes or any garment on an angry toddler, then you know how much the body part must be willing and actively helping with the donning, or it ain't happening. Now multiply that times 5 (fingers) that don't want a glove to "fit." I was only 17 when I watched OJ "try" to put that glove on, and it was blatantly clear to me that he was doing the opposite of trying, LOL. And mind you we're talking about a leather glove, which is made to fit super tight anyway, and it's been sitting in a dry evidence room for godknows how long, after being collected from the ground in desertass Los Angeles, so it is very likely shrunken from dehydration.
@@SkunkApe407 Y'all just making shit up. Also, you realize blood is also wet, right?
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 You made leather moccasins once, good for you. My dad works with leather all day, every day for 68 years, I'll take his word over yours. Moreover, I've definitely had my own leather gloves shrink up to useless shit from getting wet.
What still haunts me about this case is the children were home and asleep upstairs the whole time, they were so used to hearing OJ rage at Nicole like that that it didn’t even wake them. This was just a regular occurrence. That tells you so much about what kind of person OJ is.
it was OJs son who did it OJ just tried to cover up for him
I know right! I never knew they had kids until watching The People vs OJ Simpson show, more specially the 1st episode when the police searched the house, and they showed two kids asleep. It surprised me to the point that I talked to my mom about it, and she verified that they were indeed inside the house and asleep with the murders took place. It's haunting to think that they were a floor above and just a couple dozen feet away from where their mother was killed. I can only imagine what the kids would have thought about that. I hope it never crossed their minds.
that's actually really sad, I'd like to imagine there was sound proofing or something
@@bradleonard7766 then wouldn’t he had pleaded guilty?
Lies! 💅🏽
The saddest part of this case imo is actually OJ and Nicole’s poor kids, who had to grow up with this hanging over them, being raised with their dad who killed their mom and got away with it. They are the victims that are always forgotten
Unfortunately as the majority of such murders do happen in such a way it's not the rarest of occurences that children suddenly end up with one parent dead and the other in prison (or I guess not here)...
OJ didn't do it, his son did it
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Oh Jay, Jon Bennett, Scott & Laci Peterson, Jayme Kloss, Chris Watts and countless other Murdered Stories ALL have one common denominator.
The Narratives are 100% Fiction…
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D U H !!!
Not just that people also celebrated that he got away with it
Frrr
That poor girl was betrayed by everyone who should have protected her. Her "loving" husband was abusing her, the police didn't do anything, her parents sold her trust and safety time and time again, her friend slandered her for money and publicity, and even after her death, together with probably the only friend who stood by her, they destroyed her reputation, the prosecutors dropped the ball, chose the wrong experts and the jury refused to give her justice.
I totally agree! It really seems that the one person willing to stand up for her was Ronald, who unfortunately paid the ultimate price... That is definitely what broke my heart the most... That this poor woman, who really fucking tried to get out of a bad situation time and time again, ended up being killed in cold blood for just daring to exist while rejecting her abusive ex and daring to have other male friends. The fact that this pos just snapped because he thought she was about to have a date with someone else, and didn't even kill the "right guy" is peak misogyny.
Also, the "hate the police" sentiment that apparently gave this absolute pos most of the support that he had is obviously understandable, given Rodney King and the obvious systemic racism of American police. HOWEVER, are we forgetting WHY we hate them? It's for being corrupt, it's for planting evidence, it's for leaving vulnerable people, like Nicole, in the hands of her abuser, TIME AND TIME AGAIN... That's when and why we hate the police. Not when they actually do their jobs and lock up the actual murderer... If there is one time that I think we can all get behind the police is when they arrest a dangerous suspected murderer who happens to be filthy rich and holds little soirees for his cop buddies!
I mean, wtf people! So, because white police officers killed an innocent black man before, now another random black man gets to kill two other innocent white people in cold blood, and that's justice!?! It isn't, and you know it isn't. Do better.
And once again, my heart goes to only the real victims in this case, Nicole and Ronald, and their families and friends. You both deserved so much better.
@@b4rbarbar peak misogyny.. jesus
Her poor Akita must have been the only one on her side, what a tragedy.
@@b4rbarbar What??? One murdered black person? I think you need to get your facts correct! I'm by no means justifying what OJ did. He should have been convicted on 2 counts of 1st degree murder. But how dare say say oh one black person was murdered! The audacity! You're ignorance is beyond belief. You have no damn clue what black people have been through & still going through! Those police officers who didn't arrest for domestic battery on Nichole we're WHITE! Why didn't her parents step in & get her away from that maniac who they knew damn well was beating their daughter? I guess they didn't want to risk making OJ mad at them & stop the money he was surely giving them!! An the next time you want to rant and rave on the miscarriage of Justice why don't you analyze & figure out how in the hell Casey Anthony was found not guilty of killing 2 year old Caylee. She didn't have a dream team of lawyers she had a sleazy no account attorney. Her jury was white. Did race play a part In her case? Everybody knows OJ got away with murder Rob & Nicole will never get the Justice they both deserve. But saying oh the cops murdered one black person what's the Big deal? It just shows your lack of intelligences & your clear stupidity! You know it's been nothing but White ppl on the news lately accused of the most unimaginable demonic sadistic things. An the ones who have been convicted Joel Guy Jr put his mother's head in a pot of water & Left it on the stove to slowly boil. Anthony Todt murdered his whole family. Richard Allen? Steven McDaniels? that lunatic who murdered those 4 innocent college students? Chandler Halderson the things he did to his parents bodies is beyond disgusting disturbing deviant sadistic what an evil POS what about all of the heartbreaking school shootings? All white shooters? That insane cop who kidnapped that 15 year old girl didn't he murder the 3 adults in the house before the kidnapping ? So maybe you should climb off of your high horse. If you're going to talk about black ppl then you need to include the white ones!
She was a grown woman with children, though...
Thank you Liam for wanting Ronald Goldman to not be forgotten. So often happens in reports of this, and the respect you want him to be given is admirable.
I'm not sure why Liam dismissed the racism from the jury so quickly. They obviously didn't care about the white victims including Goldman, and the foreman (a black panther) did a black power salute after the verdict.
Well, his family has O.J.'s Heisman Trophy.
@@DayneGodwinthat’s disgusting, they didn’t earn that.
@@UrMomsSuperRichEx their son is fucking dead and all they got is some money from the suspect's book and a cool trophy the suspect had, shut up
54:30 had me howling!!! G'wan Simon!!!
To put into perspective how popular the "OJ in the bronco" coverage was, it occured during the NBA Finals and news stations were covering the chase over the game.
Yup! I was a die hard Knicks fan back then, I will never forget that.
Don't forget it was Domino's most busiest day in history because nobody wanted to leave their house 😅
I live in Australia we watched it live.
irritated my mom so much she woke me u by phone to complain about it (me brand new mom just going back to night shift)
I had not long moved to NYC from the UK, was watching the NY Knicks in a bar with friends when the Bronco live stream took over the night.
There was so much evidence left out of this trial. Stuff the jury never heard. Even though the prosecution didn't have the photo of OJ wearing the Bruno Magli shoes that left the bloody prints at the crime scene, theyhad witnesses who could have testified to having seen them, including Nicole's own sister. They had people who saw OJ fleeing the scene of the crime who never testified. There was a person at the airport that night who saw OJ throwing a dark object into a dumpster, and that person never testified, either. The Isotoner gloves that were soaked in blood were extremely rare designer gloves only sold in two locations in the whole country, and they knew OJ bought a pair. They didn't even use OJ's incriminating police interview after he returned from Chicago, the one in which Lang and Vannatter asked him about the cut on his thumb and OJ said he couldn't remember how he got it. The jury never heard any of this. It's ridiculous that this much evidence was left out of the trial.
Oh that really pissed me off that lady sold her story to hardcopy for $5000. She almost got in an accident with OJ fleeing the scene. So $5000 was worth more to this Effing woman than two people that were butchered.
@@annettehunt900of course because mine talks bulshit walks lol guess that’s how he got off huh ?
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@@tanikahutcherson4839 OJ, Casey Anthony, Amber Heard. All narcissistic people. I don’t know if Amber is capable of murder but that trial was fun to watch. Poor Johnny. Glad that he stood up for himself no matter what it cost him. Her lies were exposed in front of millions.
There's a video of Robert Kardashian taking OJs garment bag. That's why he was put on the defense team. He couldn't be called as a witness about the contents of that garment bag.
I would like to thank everyone who helped this get to a million views! You are the best audience a writer could ever ask for.
Thank you for your hard work Liam! I like the perspective you give to the scripts.
And more videos in the courtroom style would be good (as per Simon’s last question/statement).
You kick ass Liam! Thanks for your incredible scripts
Ah, you're the writer. I think it was for the most part very factual, albeit biased in what facts were included like most media coverage of the trial. An excellent example of a surface level view of what happened. I'll be clear, I think OJ is a dirt bag and I think he may have been involved in some way, but the actual facts don't support him actually killing anyone. I wish you would have gone into how the "If I Did It" book was completely ghost written and only endorsed by Simpson as a desperate cash grab. How the Goldman's got complete control of the book before it was released and designed the cover themselves to make it look as damning as possible.
I also wish you would have gone into how little blood was actually found in this "blood trail" (literal droplets) from the crime scene to Simpson's estate, the fact that it was found after Simpson willingly gave blood to investigators, how one of the detectives was exposed for driving around town with said blood, and how there was EDTA (a blood preservative used when collecting blood) in the samples recovered from the crime scenes. I could go on about the shoe patterns as well, but my point is Simpson's guilt is much less clear when all facts are presented.
Thank you, Liam! I really enjoy your writing!
Write a script on Dean Corll and how the police let him murder like 28 boys through laziness.
It’s not “beyond all doubt” it’s “beyond all *reasonable* doubt.” That’s an important distinction that I think a lot of jurors miss. There is almost always room for some doubt in any case. That’s where applying reason is crucial.
They actually instruct the jury that they must be 100% sure the defendant is guilty. Or they must give a not guilty verdict.
This case just proved the incompetency of all the lawyers involved. With the evidence they had, and witnesses to call, this case should have been over in 6 weeks.
In this instance it's beyond all doubt
They instruct the jury to vote guilty if the prosecution proved their case beyond a REASONABLE doubt - which in this case, they failed to do.@@Im-Kaspa
@mspennyisaac i agree they didnt make their case. As i said, having been on the other side that is reasonable doubt. If you are not 100% sure that defendant is guilty it is reasonable in your mind he didnt do it
Ps. It is fair to say you must convince the jury thay is the point. If it isnt reasonable they would not doubt it or so that is the thinking. It doesnt always work
I'm a simple man. I see Simon talking for 2 hours, I click.
100% true
Oh my! I love your take on natural weight lifting/training. It's even better knowing you're a fan of Simonverse. You get a sub 😊😊😊
Same 😂
Haha
Yes... I do believe most of us here understand that impulse
The longer, the better😌
no better way to celebrate than with a casual criminalist video
I watched this as a young recent college graduate, holding a degree in Criminal Justice. This trial showed me that court was more about acting and money than law, and detoured me off my path to law school. He was so guilty.
It also really bothered me that there was so much speculation about the relationship between the victims. She was divorced, it didn't matter.
What, you didn’t know that laws are for poor people?
@@jaystreet46 I'm a slow learner lol
@@jolenejoleeene do you think society need a Dexter
@@scifi_shop Nah, as tempting as it might seem, that's just addressing a wrong with another wrong. I do think if vigilantism was legal for a day, we'd have a lot fewer people the next day. We really just need an actual blind justice system. Dreamers can dream.
If you think acting had anything to do with it you are blissfully unaware of the actual reason. I'll put it to you this way, in the documentary OJ Made in America, one of the black women that was on the jury says "we take care of our own". They blame the cops that beat Rodney king getting off on all charges is the reason but that wouldn't have mattered the least bit. Black people are told from birth that all their problems are because white people. They are the ones that are preached hate all their childhoods so any chance to stick it to white people they take. It still goes on with juries to this day. I forgot the name of the girl but like Nicole she was white and a black person was charged with oj level evidence against him but after two trials they both have ended in a hung jury. You dont need me to tell you what the skin color was for the ones voting not guilty.
It's also worth mentioning, for those unfamiliar with american football, running backs are basically on a spectrum from little speedsters like Barry Sanders who rely on avoiding defenders, to big bruisers who could just run over would-be tacklers. Oj was the latter, he made some of the biggest and hardest hitting athletes on the planet fold up like a lawn chair. *And he still had world-class speed.*
I'm just saying he'd be one of the scariest people I could imagine being attacked by.
@@ATOMIC_V_8 Well obviously I didn't mean right now. Haha
OU could barely walk at the time. Do you know the toll football takes on the body especially the knees? I swear you people are so blind by your racism that you don’t use common sense…
@@ATOMIC_V_8 Or 29 years ago.
Still non the wiser?
So I am utterly unfamiliar with Ametican football I barely know football (soccer). I read that 4 times but I don't get it... my brain is not wired for sports. I've played baseball a fair number of times for a non American and I do not understand most of the rules. I just trust the ref is fair lol... you would probably have to explain it with puppets and diagrams, preferably colour coded and then I will politely pretend to understand and nod my head while imagining I'm rolling a huge joint.
Argh, a 2h episode to index : i think i'm going to need the entire week for this one...
6:30 - Chapter 1 - A task for the audience
10:05 - Chapter 2 - Gathering the oranges
12:55 - Chapter 3 - Creating the juice
22:05 - Chapter 4 - She was a girl, he was a w8ter boy
31:30 - Chapter 5 - The 12th of June
40:25 - Chapter 6 - Setting the stage
45:20 - Chapter 7 - Dramatis personae
53:50 - Chapter 7.1 - Marcia clark & chris darden
57:20 - Chapter 7.2 - Judge Ito
57:55 - Chapter 7.3 - The reality stars
59:05 - Chapter 8 - The opening statements & character witnesses
1:09:15 - Chapter 9 - The prosecution places the pieces of the puzzle
1:13:00 - Chapter 10 - The prosecution crumbles
1:25:40 - Chapter 11 - The man who got OJ Free
1:31:30 - Chapter 12 - The defense begins to struggle
1:43:10 - Chapter 13 - Don't record your crimes
1:55:55 - Chapter 14 - Over to the jury
2:05:05 - Chapter 15 - (If) he did it
2:06:00 - Wrap up
2:07:20 - Dismembered appendices
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Not all heroes wear capes
You do the work of god sir
Gods work lad thanks for doing it
Thanx buddy
Take it easy
You no longer have to say allegedly. OJ can rest easy knowing his wife's killer is dead.
Cancer: I didn't do it.
Eat garbage.
@@Tactical_Hotdogbut if I did do it…
O.J. was found innocent? If O.J. is innocent but guilty then what about the people that are guilty?
I will never forget this... lived through it. "If I Did It" was definitely OJ's confession. His ghostwriter was sure of it.
Ya, I was living in mission Viejo then. I remember how everyone at work was incredibly disappointed when he was found not guilty. We were listening to the verdict on the radio.
I forget the source but I heard recently it didn't sell well then the families sued for the book rights to pay judgement and repackaged it with the "if" tiny and a bloody footprint on the cover
@@splendidpursuitsyeah, I think the original circulation copies of if I did it go for several thousand. The version with OJ’s face in the court room. I have a hard back of the one with the crime scene tape on the front (the first edition of the Goldman one), think there’s been a new edition so maybe my one will be worth something one day 😅 got it for £3 from a jumble sale type of shop last year.
In Canada it inspired a politician convicted of killing his wife to write something like it except it was more like ‘if I didn’t do it’, blaming some conspiracy that had never been mentioned before he published the book. The guy did it though. Even left a signed receipt at the crime scene.
I snorted, literally snorted when Simon said, “The Eldridge horror that is the Kardashians!” 😂😂😂 Thank you Simon! 😂😂😂
Don’t blame Simon, you’re an addict and will blame anything and everything for qyour habit. Please, come to a meeting. You’re only 12 steps away from freedom😊
@@Dude0000 I hope your joking lol
Pretty sure its Eldritch, though
@@Dude0000 brother what
@@cheeseccheese he was making a joke about snorted, alluding to cocaine usage.
Fun fact: OJ almost played The Terminator, but didn’t get the role because they didn’t think people would believe he was a heartless killer.
Ragetti: "Now that's what you'd call ironic."
Fun fact: the pope has written a book detailing his views on the church’s role in today’s changing culture. The book is titled, “God Himself told me that OJ is guilty.”
Norm Macdonald is awesome.
Lmao 🤣
Whoa. I found it in "Variety". Schwarzenegger made the claim and added that he has concept art with OJ's face. Cameron says that none of it is true; he says that an exec pitched it and that he rejected it out-of-hand before it got any traction.
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The thing about the book OJ wrote, IF I DID IT the parents of Ron & Nicole got his release of book blocked but once they got a copy of it they realized he basically admitted to the murders, it had something to do with them having rights to the property because of the civil lawsuit, they allowed it to be published and the reason the “IF” is so small is because they directed it to be that way.
The “IF” is white on white. It’s invisible.
Perfect.
The real strange part about the book was the ghost writer. He lived across from the Bundy residence and testified for the prosecution during the trial.
The police dropped the ball and he had that good lawyer money. We studied all the mistakes in my college forensics class it was a full class of "don't do this"
A freaking juror was quoted as saying "we take care of our own" on a documentary that was nationally televised. The only "don't do" that would have made any difference is let a Malibu case be determined by a south central jury. As soon as the trial was moved out of Malibu it was over.
I have always been amazed that hiring all these lawyers left him with anything at all for the Goldman’s and the Brown’s to sue him for. One other lesson, professional sports people/actors, are way overpaid.
The main thing that bothered me was when the blood evidence that was carried around. It should have immediately been booked in to evidence and not carried around. That led to a lot of speculation as to what was done with this blood. Did the police use it to frame him? I don’t think they did but it leads to questions.
Also what was Chris thinking asking OJ to try on the glove? Glove’s that get wet get stiff. Isotoners are hard to get on even if they aren’t stiff with blood. OJ was an actor and played that up beautifully. And Johnny Cochran was magnificent. If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit. Magnificent.
And yes he did it.
@@butterbeanqueen8148 letting OJ direct the trying on of the gloves was incredible.
"Here, OJ, try these on, and if they fit you're in big trouble. If they don't, you can go and play golf." How well do you think he's going to try and make them fit?
@@bradsanders407 With as incompetent as the prosecution was I'd have doubts just from that.
Fun fact: there is a TH-camr named Legal Vices who is a lawyer going through EVERY DAY of the OJ Simpson trial and providing legal commentary and analysis in real time as if January 2023.
I will definitely be checking this out. This was the first in depth look at the OJ trial that I've engaged in
@@KittenCece Same. I was in grade school when this was happening and was vaguely aware of it, but didn’t follow much.
I've been watching it. He does great videos.
On a related note youtuber Legal Bytes is doing the same with the Menendez brothers trial
On a related note, just watch Rekeita law if you are not easily offended and like Legal commentary.
I am retired from law enforcement. Not long after the OJ Simpson trial, I was at a homicide seminar where one of the featured speakers was Henry Lee, Ph.D. At the time Lee was considered the foremost forensic scientist in the U.S. He was retained by Simpson's defense team. When he opened his presentation up to questions he was immediately bombarded with questions about the OJ trial. At that point De. Lee explained he never said Simpson was innocent. He explained how one person could not have cleaned up the crime scene the way it had been. The trial was a travesty. The judge lost control of the courtroom. The prosecutors did a terrible job, they were totally outplayed by the defense team.
That is absolutely correct. I've always thought Dr. Lee was the best, and I paid close attention to what he said. Unfortunately, it went over everyone's head.
A much shorter synopsis would’ve sufficed. Just being brutally honest.
@@kitsunefox2023 Not everyone feels the need to dumb everything down to two sentences because most of the world has lost their attention span and propensity towards reading, at times a story needs words to be told, no one is forcing you to read it.
@@caitlynmarie2677 Too boring, didn’t bother.
@@kitsunefox2023but wasted twice the time coming back to a video to make a comment about .. a comment you didn’t even read? Somebody make it make sense 😂😂😂
One of the craziest aspects of this case is the defense made it about the racist LAPD framing a rich black man but in reality the LAPD were star struck by O.J. they would be inappropriately chummy with him on calls for domestic violence and completely let him go. If anything the LAPD's culpability is due to their negligence, not some nefarious racist cops planting evidence. If anything they worshipped the guy if not for his acting, then for his time at USC and the NFL.
Plus OJ always distanced himself with the black community once he became famous, he would say to people “I’m not black, I’m OJ.”
Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman have been given all the respect that they so deserve here, Liam and Simon and colleagues - everybody has seen the sensationalised soap opera, so I can't actually think of a better way to honour their memory than to present the details of the case, exactly as they were at the time, with a clear and concise explanation as to why the case reached the outcome that it did. I'm sure, wherever those two good people are, they will have appreciated the effort to which you went. As for the infamous individual at the centre of the soap opera - I think it's about time the world stopped talking about him, and forgot that he ever existed.
But he rushed for 2000 yards in a season.
Kind of unlikely if you regard his other accolades
He is a no buddy who is not worthy of a mention.
This one action has shadowed all done before into oblivion and made all future actions worthless.
The same with any who has done or will do the same.
That person doesn’t matter
@Kandy Mich but he rushed for 276 yards in 1 game. Pretty impressive.
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I didn't know Simon has a writer who's a lawyer. 😯 I want more of this type of stuff with the focus on the court case. Enjoyed this very much, thank you Liam!
He's written two episodes about crazy jury trials over on Simon's Brain Blaze channel, to tide you over while you wait for some more courtroom drama over here :)
Can't link because TH-cam will delete the comment, but searching for "brain Blaze jury" should get you there.
Channel name should be Courts&Consequence
Check out the Channel ''Dreading''. Its really good and respectful to victims and their Families unlike trash like 10 to Life which is utter trash.
Agreed!
Like the Casey Anthony trial from 2008. I remember watching it thinking there's no way she'll go free...
I was in 4th grade when the trial concluded. Our teacher wheeled in a television on a stand, plugged it in, and told us not to talk. We all watched silently, half of the students rooting for a sports hero and half of us rooting for justice. When the verdict was read it was met with cheers and groans of disappointment. Listening to these silly boys hoot and holler made my stomach churn. It has always stuck with me. I work with victims of domestic violence now.
I had a similar experience. I didn’t remember many details or facts of the trial but I do remember when not guilty was announced all of the black kids and teachers cheering. I remember a feeling of us vs them about race during that announcement. It wasn’t about is justice being done or did he commit murder. Gave me a better understanding about race relations in our country that’s for sure.
What can ya say? _they_ love the juice
Me too, exact same scenario including the wheeled in TV
I was on a class field trip and everyone stopped and watched this small TV set. We were all floored. It taught me a valuable lesson. If you have money and lawyers that could control the narrative, you will not go to prison. If he was a poor man, he would have gotten life with no parole or the death penalty. Money is what makes the legal system unfair.
It was a taste of thing to come.
0:42 not anymore Simon…not anymore
I was in 5th grade, I remember that the teachers went from class to class giving eachother updates on the trial. When the message about the verdict came in my teacher (a lady) threw a book across the room and screamed "How did he get away with it?"
You're correct Simon, this was a huge deal in America that even as a 10 yr old in school we got daily updates on it courtesy of the morbid fascination of our teachers
Maybe it's why I love Casual Criminalist so much today, who's to say?
It was the same at my school. I was in highschool at the time and we all watched the reading of the verdict live on TV in class. It was an outrage.
I was in 5th grade and my teacher gave us a quiz and then turned the radio on to listen to the verdict. The Broncos chase happened on my 10th birthday
Jackie Chiles.was a good lawyer, that's why OJ got away with it.
Was is 5th grade as well. We watched the verdict live on TV, in the classroom.
Bob was the lawyer
This is easily the best episode of Casual Criminalist. It didn’t feel like a thriller or something at a victim’s expense. Do more like this.
No, it was very Britton.
@@briancarter2052 what do you mean? I’m not sure I understand.
Agreed. I really enjoyed this format. Present the facts and let us make our ruling same as the jurors.
Downside of this one is that I remember this whole trial so already knew the verdict. But this would be even more awesome on cases that are less well known.
@@Devonarmstrong he's against the brits like its 1776
@@StormTalara I ok
This case makes me more angry than any other. He very obviously butchered those two people and left a TONNE of evidence behind but he got off because of the racial climate at the time and because the prosecution made a few crucial mistakes. Makes me sick that he's still walking around free.
Yup. Thats exactly what happened. He obviously did it. Life's not a trick question. Obvious answers are usually correct.
He was famous, an adored football star, and had money, that had a lot to do with it. I have a friend who says that proved the country had made some progress on our serious racism problem, because finally money and fame had more influence on the outcome than the defendant's race.
There was definitely more evidence to say he did, rather than didn’t, but so many factors allowed in skewed the jury, and the prosecution let way too much slide without objection. They basically let the defence get away with way too much.
How is it so obvious there was never even enough evidence to try O.J. Have you ever considered his son Jason and his past?
Nicole was killed by OJ's older son
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He absolutely 100% did it. A first week criminal psychologist trainee would tell you it has personal cause homicide stamped all over it. Hitmen do not kill like this.
He still ended up in jail with less bodies than Hillary Clinton.
No they're "cleaner", this was personal rage.
@Lara Palma precisely. Even a sloppy amateur is still going to want to get in and out quickly and cleanly as possible.
Ever heard of a "Columbian Necktie"?
@@d_jedi1 Yes of course I have. Who hasn't? It's an alleged technique used by gangsters and drug dealers, usually to make an example of someone. But such kills still do not show the type of overkill present on the unfortunate Nicole unless the person doing it had a lot of anger against the victim on top of it. Also from Wikipedia (such a source that it is): " It is commonly referenced in popular culture and pulp fiction, although there is no verifiable evidence of it having occurred in the United States and its purported usage by domestic drug dealers is likely an urban legend." I really do not understand why you are having trouble with this quite simple idea and I really do not understand the point you are trying to make?
Soon after he was found "not guilty," SNL did a skit where actors (one portraying Simpson) were in a pre-game discussion. The other asked how one team could win the game. The Simpson actor proceeds to draw a game plan on the screen that slowly forms the words "I DID IT." The audience could see what was happening about halfway through, and the "holy s*it" look on the fellow actor's face while Simpson stood there grinning was hilarious!
that was tim meadows
Snl is trash
@Rache Johnson Norm was kind of an asshole towards women.
MadTV has sketches on here about OJ like a dating show and him going around the house like the real one OJ did. It's hilarious, so much funnier than SNL
I couldn’t find the skit on youtube :( could you tell me where you saw it?
The sister of Ron Goldman has a podcast about the families of those going through tragic trials like this case. She also talks to Matt Shepards mom, a dad from the Parkland shooting, and a bunch of others as well. It’s called Media Circus.
Thanks for sharing I'm going to check that out
The first episode is all about this case
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for sharing, I'm going to listen to that
I really feel for Ron Goldmans family. I feel for Nicole as well, her parents let her down time and again. She might still be alive if they weren't so money hungry. That friend of hers was no friend. Poor Nicole let down by the people who should love and protect her, especially her husband. I feel the mostly for the children, how vile for them, so hard to grow up with this mess they didnt ask for or need this.
Don't cheat.. dont get killed... very simple
she never cheated they were already separated for months at the point of her murder. plus no one DESERVES getting killed, although cheating is abhorrent and despicable..no one deserves to go out like nicole and ron did @@disclaimer.imjokin
@@Veronica-qd1puDon't bother. He's either a troll or just a moron. There's no reasoning with someone like that
@@disclaimer.imjokinShe didnt cheat. Her and Ron werent even together. Not one person said they had seen or knew of them being together romantically. OJ was just a jealous jerk that beat women…
Ronald Shipp was my neighbor at my family home and is a good family friend. I remember him telling me a few years ago about his involvement in this case. He orignally didnt want to testify, but they showed him the pictures and he felt that he had to. He lost many friends and was slammed in the media because of it. He is a great guy and didnt deserve any of that.
He is a good guy
At the time of and in the aftermath of the “Trial” of the century their were those who were saying that “Race” relations were irreparably damaged by the O.J. Situation !!!. A little bit of time went by and Barak “Saddam Hussein” Obama became our President and he single handedly healed our nation of any further “Racial” trauma !!!. ( HA, HA, HA, HA, HA !!!. ) Yours truly Will VanNess
Back at the time of the OJ murder trial, one of my buddies was at law school here in Germany and regurarly visited classes about the differences between Germany's and the US's justice systems. The professor giving these classes used footage of the trial as an example to point out the many differences between the two systems and came to the conclusion that there was NO WAY that OJ would have been aquitted over here. We don't have juries deciding if somebody is guilty or not, the judges will do that and in regard of the vast amount of solid DNA evidence found at the crime scene, in OJ's house, in OJ's cars, on OJ's clothes, on the victims' bodies, on the murder weapon, on top of that the recorded history of OJ abusing Nicole, the circumstancial evidence about the murder weapon and the weapon OJ was trained on for that canceled tv show, his obvious attempts to provide himself with an alibi, etc., etc., no German judge would ever had any doubts of OJ being the killer, and because he killed two people on one occasion, one simply because being a witness, a German judge would probably attested the "besondere Schwere der Schuld" ("special severity of guilt/delinquency"), which would probably have resulted in OJ still being in prison today, as even though most convicted murderers get paroled after having served 16-20 years over here, convicted murders who were attested "besondere Schwere der Schuld" however usually serve MUCH longer, especially if they're still considered a threat to society, which is very likely in case somebody butchered two people like OJ obviously did. He murdered Ms. Brown Simpson and Mr. Goldman....and because she the jury fell for a bogus conspiracy theory and a stupid little verse, he's still free, tweeting and vlogging BS. It's a bloody shame, no pun intended.
We have issues with judges having a bias, and juries work better in most cases. This case had several problems from the start. OJ was a celebrity and very beloved. It was unthinkable because his public image was flawless. Even though the police had responded to several DV calls, he was never in serious trouble. The New Year's Eve call in 1989 was said to be the 9th time they had responded. Nicole was hiding in the yard and came to the gate when the police got there. She was wearing only sweatpants and a bra and was visibly injured. She was terrified, and she kept saying that he (OJ) was going to kill her. They intended to take him in. He was told to get some clothes on but OJ got onto a neighbor's property and fled. DV is a cycle that is very much like brainwashing. Nicole, like many others, hid it. It is their dirty little secret, and they believe it is their fault and they are ashamed.
So the rules are you have a jury of your peers. They were not his peers. He should have been tried in his actual living community. It was a much smaller courthouse and had been damaged in the last earthquake. They moved it downtown. Nothing was done correctly. It became an insane feeding frenzy with every defense lawyer trying to get their fifteen minutes and cash in.
A perverted and obscene spectacle. Everyone knew he was guilty, and I do mean EVERYONE. Jury nullification is technically illegal, but good luck trying to prove it. None of the jurors was going to admit it, but none of them made any type of sense. There was an entire book that didn't make sense by three of the jurors. It was many years later when one juror confirmed what we suspected.
The civil trial was an eye-opener since the big fat liar had to testify. WOW!, he is a terrible liar. It is a day in history that will be remembered
Hindsight is 20/20, I think your German professor was working on the hearsay brought forward by the media, German judges would not have heard about the tv show or any of the other things you listed because the Prosecution did not introduce it during trial. Also, DNA was so new Judges were learning about it just as the jurors were and when something is that new it takes years b4 it becomes bulletproof as it is today so your analogy only works if all your judges have the presence of mind to throw out everything they know and put all their faith in a new scientific finding especially in such a high profile case. I don't know if your justice system must prove beyond reasonable doubt or if the level of defense is based on your wealth but I find it hard to believe any country would have found it differently in that unique timeline, I believe OJ was guilty with every fiber of my being but looking at just the facts brought out at trial I would have voted not guilty too.
One man should not be judge jury executioner. Most people make there mind up about guilt rather fast and no matter how much evidence they are shown to disprove them they will still have that bias. With a judge being the sole person to determine someone’s guilt they are going to be sending a lot of innocent people to prison
@@Tam5115 If you think only American judges have bias...
@@KnightOwl1881 No. I never said that.
Thank you, Liam, for the massive amount of work this must have been to complete!
I remember watching the car chase! I didn't watch the trial but my father (newly retired at the time) watched it ALL on Court TV.
Thank you! It did but it was 100% worth it, I learnt so much.
I remember the car chase too...had no idea who OJ Simpson was..lol
@@thelegalliam Thank you Liam!!!
@@leas7830 No thank you!
The original script was probably only an hour long but , you know Simon.
"Trusting twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty" is one of those magical sentences that says so much with so little. Thank you sir.
At that time many people didn't understand how factual DNA was. They treated it like fingerprints and blood samples.
As a girl born in 1990, I have learned barely anything about this case. I really appreciate this breakdown because it was mostly new information and I have always been curious about what happened but felt information was too spread out and contradictory for me to make sense of it. This was amazing for fixing that and I really appreciate it!
Read Toobins book it breaks it down even further .
Another 90s kid here, totally know what you mean. This is the first I've heard a proper breakdown of the case. I was only aware of the glove line, that the prosecution fucked up (didn't know how), the white bronco car chase, and the book "If I Did It". But like, only nebulously? Like I already kinda figured OJ murdered his wife, got acquitted, and proceeded to brag about getting away with murder, but nobody I know really talks about this case outside that superficial capacity.
This is a really odd comment… hope this helps
Jeez 90s kid here. Heard it too many times to count. But I am black so well. I guess I cared when all that black melodrama was being hammered into me. 😂
@13:54 - The Heisman Trophy is awarded yearly to the most outstanding collegiate football player. Since 1936, any regional limitations were removed and it is now a national award.
Thank you for remembering Nicole and Ron. I was appalled at the verdict, but my mother reminded me that the jury did not hear all of the evidence provided. I, too, know that the verdict was given as payback for the Rodney King and other such cases that had occurred within the two years previous.
I think they probably started questioning their verdicts when it was over because suddenly the entire nation was questioning them and they were basically known as fuckups who got an obvious case wrong. They were probably more than happy to get their little revenge, only to go, "Oh shit" when they realized just how big the case was. They're forever the people who got an obvious killer off because they were petty. The victims had nothing to do with anything, but they threw an abused woman and innocent man (and personally, I always thought he probably died trying to save her) under the bus.
I always wondered if the jury only said "not guilty" because they were done dealing with the case. They ignored all the evidence just because they wanted to go home.
I believe that some of the jury did go with what was presented and made the judgement solely on what they heard. That said, I also believe that a good number of the jury would have went with "Not Guilty" even if the case proved OJ to be the killer without a shadow of the doubt.
This case was turned into the racist LAPD vs a black hero.
Which do you think this jury would choose?
The amount of people flocking to this video after the death of the juice is absolutely hilarious and I'm all for it
I was in the seventh grade when they wheeled in tv's on carts using rabbit-ear antennae to get reception of the case. We were all of us shocked at how a man was found not guilty next to such overwhelming evidence. Let that sink in. Seventh graders could see this man was guilty. He walked free.
I was in seventh grade too. I had the radio on my Sony Walkman and listened live while they announced the verdict. The Math teacher stopped class so I could tell everyone what happened. I also remember that Marcia Clark had a few different hairstyles during the trial, and the tv show Entertainment Tonight had people call in to vote for their favorite style. Total. Circus. 😮
wtf! i`m sorry but that was completely inappropriate in any classroom other than a legal class!
@@jessgunn6639it was very common to bring TVs into classrooms to cover anticipated events like NASA rocket launches. News like the assassination of Pres, Kennedy would be announced on the PA. It would be impractical to only cover an event during a related class. For one thing , VCRs hadn't been invented yet so live broadcasts happened when they happened.
On JFKs assassination our school made the decision not to tell grade schoolers. My sister was in 6th grade, and she and her classmates could tell that something bad had happened, and concluded that the Russians had launched the bomb, and they were about to die, without seeing their parents and families again. Holding back upsetting info from kids isn't a good plan.
I was in my 20s when this happened, and I have always thought he was not only guilty but a horrible person. It makes me visibly angry that's he's retained even a small bit of infamy.
It makes you angry that he’s retained some of his infamy?
So… you’d rather he not be infamous (famous in a bad way)?
I was 13 when the infamous Bronco chase happened. Loving cars as a kid, I was thinking why the hell would you use a Bronco as a getaway car? I always knew he was guilty. It just didn't make sense that it was a random act. Anyways, it was the 90s and the news went crazy over this story. Good times, before the social media boom.
@@DroneStrike1776 It wasn't a random act. Most people are not interested in knowing more about Nichol's lifestyle.
@@lydiaedwards8100 I am, elaborate please
@@DroneStrike1776 The Bronco was not OJs'it was Cowlings,he drove.Notice it was never used in any trials.
I recently rewatched the documentary O.J. Made in America, and it is one of the best documentaries of all time. Covers sports, race, politics, crime, the justice system and O.J. Simpson. Highly recommended
I'll watch this today. Thanks for content worth a second round Simon.
Thank you! I'm hoping we can get to 1.5 mill off the back of this.
How does that timing feel now?
“The eldritch horrors that are the kardashians” is already my top line of 2023. Good luck beating that one.
Before I even start the video, I have to say that this was "the case" for me. I was about 10 when this became "the case" that got me hooked on Court TV, "the case" that got me into learning about the psychology of serial killers in high school, and ultimately "the case" that led me to watching this channel now.
Yes, this was the biggest case ever for many, many people
Honestly I feel for Fung. When you are truly interested in a field, you often want to show off all you know and focus on the incredible details, or the severity of the situation. When you get all excited you tend to over explain and overload the person.
I struggle with this at work. I explained suspension parts to customers and I can easily start going way overboard. That’s why I keep old parts on my tool box. I can show customers what I’m talking about and it keeps me on track.
With his final action of hugging and stuff, odds are he was just in shock because he realized he blundered that so badly, in front of everyone in the United States and more. He probably was in a sense of shock and just did what felt right.
Dude is a nerd, and so am I… same for every person who finds a hobby or interests. He had his chance to show the world this amazing new science, and he botched it up.
The fact the Simon said "He was a water boy" but still got the reference to the song make me crease! :')
I absolutely love the air of compassion and empathy you carry for the victims in your videos. Bless you and your team.
It’s really great hearing an “outside” perspective on this from somebody who didn’t grow up hearing about OJ for literally a decade.
My family was obsessed with this case. I remember we watched the car chase in shock. I was in college & working at the time but they made me set the VCR timer to tape it every day because they didn't know how to work it. And at night after work/on the weekends my mother, my uncle who lived in a different apt. in the same building, my oldest cousin who lived down the block, occasionally my aunts when they'd come to help out my uncle, and several other cousins would be in and out. watching it. My uncle mainly was the one, he didn't miss a minute of it. I'd watch as I did homework or chores. I was on the bus on my way to class when the jury was coming back, by the time I got to class every TV the college had was in a classroom and everyone-- students, office workers, etc.-- were around a TV to watch. A lot of people cheered the verdict and a lot of others groaned... I honestly never understood how anyone thought he was innocent.
It was basically made a race issue. Black people thought he was innocent and being prejudiced by the historically racist LAPD, and white people thought he was guilty because of the evidence.
OJ can rest easy knowing his wifes killer is dead 🙏🏼
Glen Rodgers check him out
I was watching the trial on Sky News in Dublin, and shouting, "wet gloves shrink when they dry"when they tried that glove on Simpson. The prosecutor really dropped the ball with that.
I'm honestly surprised by Robert Kardahshian and how deeply he seemed to regret his part int he trial. It haunted him for the rest of his life. I guess some lawyers do have souls.
We don’t know that
He wasn’t a lawyer at the time.
@@hockeypnc3wtf yes he was
@@hockeypnc3 Actually, he was. From Wikipedia: "Simpson was charged with the murders and subsequently acquitted of all criminal charges in a controversial criminal trial. Kardashian had let his license to practice law become inactive before the Simpson case but reactivated it to aid in Simpson's defense as a volunteer assistant on his legal team, alongside Simpson's main defense attorneys, Robert Shapiro and Johnnie Cochran. As one of Simpson's lawyers and a member of the defense "Dream Team", Kardashian could not be compelled or subpoenaed to testify against Simpson in the case, which included Simpson's past history and behavior with his ex-wife Nicole, and as to the contents of Simpson's garment bag.[17] He sat by Simpson throughout the trial."
@@colico14 yeah apparently he re-activated his license for this case
Mad respect to Liam and his research/writing. Thank you for shedding light on Ronald and Nicole's life and clarifying their relationship. Unfortunately, majority of media would rather tell a scandalous story than the truth.
Did it not bother anybody else that he kept saying 1998 . The trial was over in 1995 so obviously must have meant 1988.
Wow this was recommended to me at a great time. What better time to celebrate a joyous day than look back at OJ’s trial on the day of his death
Such an statement on humanity to have a savage murderer walk free with everyone knowing he got away with his heinous crime and yet him still having fans and people that enjoy his content. The crime is not only the murder, is everything else and around it...
One thing that really bothers me about the OJ trial is it overshadowed the reports of the Rwandan Genocide, which was occurring at the same time. Horrible. 1994 seems like an evil year
He did. He absolute did. Also, 2 hours and 10 minutes, daaaayum
By far my longest script yet.
@@thelegalliam slayed it mate you always do
I was in L.A., in my first year of law school, while the trial was being held. In my second year, Chris Darden taught me Criminal Procedure. His first day of class, he closed the classroom doors, turned off his microphone (he was the only prof I ever had who used one while teaching) and told us: " to get it out of our system ... you have one day to ask me anything about the trial you wish." Long story short, there are so many things left out of this video (although, this is not meant to be disparaging: Simon and his writers are always brilliant), which I wish had been discussed. Number one involves how the jury was selected (a process called Voir Dire). Simon inadvertently touched on this in the video when he highlighted how little the jury seemed to care about the victims' families.
They were the worst peices of shit that could have possibly been chosen. One of them was an abuse victim that projected her shit onto Nichole. Absolutely disgusting. I would have 12 angry men'd the absolute hell out of that jury room. Hung jury or guilty. No budging.
So, on the first day, the gloves were off, so to speak??
In an interview Marcia Clark said one of the jurors was an ex-Black Panther who stood up after the verdict and gave the Black Power salute. She had no idea at the time.
So? Voice dire allows both the defense AND prosecution to choose the jury. Any jurors was agreed on by both parties.
It is well documented that Marcia Clark ignores her own research which showed that blackvwomen were sympathetic towards oj. She chose them anyway. The woe is me regarding voir dire is a bit much when they have the power to exclude
not youtube recommending this to me now 💀
I have to say, I wasn't going to watch/listen to this one but I'm glad I did. Wonderful insight from a lawyer's perspective as well as something a little more about the victims. RIP to them both.
I so enjoy the presenter, Simon, with his humor, spontaneity, and humanity, and Liam, with his thorough and intelligent writing, that I no longer have to feel guilty about my fascination with true crime videos! Thank you, both!
You have no idea just how big this was. I'm not too fond of sports either, I don't follow them, but even I knew who OJ Simpson was. He was a spokesperson for Hertz for years and the commercials he made for them had him running through an airport. He had the reputation of being one of the nicest guys you could ever know, people loved him.
My daughter was in the fourth grade (maybe fifth). One day she came home from school and asked me who was OJ, and why was everybody talking about him? I explained and I said that it was as if Michael Jordan was charged with murder. She literally gasped loudly, and I knew she understood. Man what a sh*t show the next 10 months were!
Yeah for the Brits who mostly hadn't heard of OJ even at the time, it's the equivalent of David Beckham being tried on live TV for the murder of Victoria. Impossible to overstate how massively compelling this was!
great episode as usual! like you, i was pretty young when this case occurred (maybe like 6 or 7) but i do remember my parents being very absorbed in the news coverage of it, especially my mom, who was a homemaker back then and taking care of my sister and i while my dad worked. i brought up this video to her and she said, "i remember being sad when it was over, both because i felt justice hadn't been served but also because it had taken up so much of my time and energy i didn't know what to do afterwards." definitely the start of the 24 hour news cycle!
Simon knowing next-to-nothing about pop culture but still knowing Sk8er Boi by Avril Lavigne makes me incredibly happy! 🤘🏻
I was a young adult barely drinking age when this happened. My kids have asked me over the years why the country was so obsessed with an athlete/actor and the murder trial. The very best answer I could give? I picked one of their fave actors - I said Think of Duane the Rock Johnson- beloved by most, seems very nice etc.. imagine all this unfolding with the Rock. The lightbulb went off in their head then. They finally understood the impact. OJ was like that type of celebrity.
Good analogy
I was a young adult when all this happened, and it was obvious he was guilty despite the horrible choices the prosecution made. The defence did a good job of making Mark Fuhrman a red herring that threw off the jury. One woman at my college (who is African-American) was so excited he was voted Not Guilty that she went around campus shouting "We WON!!!" It was a little silly, because he was rich and famous and beloved of white people at the time. So it wasn't a Win for the average African American, as is so very obvious now. But knowing I'd be eviscerated for suggesting that, and not wanting to rain on her parade prevented me from pointing out the only color that matters is MONEY, and Fame doesn't hurt. And after watching this, putting the jury through so much shit they just wanted out. And also the recent Rodney King attack.
One quibble: People didn't riot after the VHS tape of the beating was released, they rioted after the Not Guilty for all 4 officers who beat him was announced.
"Hey, I haven't heard of this channel befo--aaaaand it's yet another Simon channel..."
Waiting for the day it’s revealed every youtube channel is just another by simon 😂
Simon and everybody, just want to say these long videos, though I taxing on you, are a godsend for me. They help me get through my work days, and I’m always learning something new as well as entertained. I really appreciate you guys!
Liam, THANK YOU so much for including the link to Rodney King in this whole thing. I lived in the south while this trial was going on, and, listening to the rumblings, I was convinced that there would be nation-wide rioting had OJ been found guilty.
Still, he should've been found guilty.
@@tophers3756 Totally, 100% agree with you. However, this is the first time that I've heard someone cover this case on YT that mentioned the racial tension that was already present with the LAPD.
Agreed. I was in high school during the trial and I remember there was "murmuring" about what would happen if he was found guilty, both in the school and in the city.
The outcome of the case is incomprehensible unless it's set within the context of the racial tension between the LAPD and the black community.
@@cnsohm And they never mention the Latasha Harlins case which added to the pot in regards the black community’s justified disdain for the entire justice system!
Interesting childhood fact. F. Lee Bailey was the attorney for the National Bailbondsmen's professional society, for which my parents were presidents of. Since my parents took me everywhere, including jails and prisons starting at 3 days old, they took me (about 3 years then) to a congressional subcommittee about bail reform. F. Lee Bailey humored me during the long speeches by drawing caricatures of my parents, the senators, and the court officers during breaks. When O.J. happened my mom said "Girl, you keep those drawings. They're gonna be worth something to somebody someday."
That's amazing!!!! Thank you 😊 for sharing!!!! Way cool 😎!!!!
This trial was so big that I remember being in grade 5 and our teacher wheeling in this big TV so we could watch the verdict live.
Wow! I didn’t know that’s schools incorporated this into their curriculum. Wow.
My teacher did the same thing
Super episode Liam, Simon and crew! This new style is great for variety like the heist episodes and mystery episodes!
Thank you! I am glad you liked it.
Definitely enjoyed the format of this one, hopefully we can see more of these "court room" style episodes every now and then.
I was very young when this happened yet I vividly remember all of the trial and I’m still baffled how he got away with it
You and I both know how he got away with it... However, if you actually say it you'll be branded something no one wants to be branded as....earned or not. Which is the point....
Dissent = guilty of being it...
@@AnthonyJ504 I had coworkers yelling and celebrating when the news came on the radio that he was acquitted. The rest of us were all standing there stunned. There could have been video of him doing it and they still would have said he was innocent. Thankfully the judge in that Las Vegas case threw the book at him.
@@AnthonyJ504because he was a former athlete and super wealthy? I agree
@@siempreli4070 a big part of it was that one of the officers that was involved in the trial had past comments he used in the 1980s thrown at him during his time giving evidence. He had apparently used racist terms to describe African Americans and this become a focal point instead of the actual crime and was a part of OJ getting acquitted.
@@siempreli4070 Sure those were some of the reasons, there were also others.
Thank you for covering this! I was also a kid when this happened (I'm just a couple years older than Simon), but ended up seeing a good chunk of the trial on CourtTV. We spent most of the summer at my grandparents' house and my grandmother was obsessed with the trial. She had it on the TV at every opportunity and would discuss the trial events with anyone who would give her the time of day. Thus going into this video, I knew a lot of facts about the trial but not everything, and it was viewed through the lens of a pre-teen so this video filled in a lot of the gaps!
Simon..when you said.."Oh..is that how the Kardashians are so rich.. That's depressing" is exactly how I felt when I first found out same..or rather I surmised.
The s*x tape by Kim Kardashian getting leaked, exploited by Kris Jenner, is how the Kardashian/Jenners got famous.
Love the long scripts! This is one of the few true crime shows that is longer than 1hr. It makes me happy to get a very thorough video for each case ❤
Johnnie Cochran was thoroughly morally and ethically bankrupt, one of the worst real-life caricatures of all that gives lawyers a bad reputation. Me first, tribe second, everyone else can fend for themselves, and never hesitate to use any underhanded trick to get what you want.
Anyone who views that guy as admirable should be viewed with extreme suspicion, and should probably recalibrate their moral compass.
I feel badly for Nicole's family but they partially contributed to the events that transpired by accepting hush money and letting O.J. remain in her life. She was done, they convinced her to give him another chance.
Her family essentially sold her to him. She was very very young when they met. The person I always hold space for is Ron Goldman who had nothing to do with any of it
OJ told Deniece (Nicole's sister) on live TV that their family always got money from him. That clip is on YT. The Browns aren't the most innocent family either
It's sad, Nicole's parents basically chose money over their daughter's safety and well-being.
@@nelixsulu6201the murderer might not be the most reliable source.
Thank you very much for covering this case, and doing so with much respect (as you always do). I completely agree that Ron Goldman is very much forgotten - it's such a shame.
Amazing coverage of The Trial of the Century, Factboi! Well written, Liam! And thank you for your awesome editing wizardry, Jen!
I always thought Ron died trying to protect her.
I never forgot Ron Goldman's name. I was 14 when this happened. I still feel sick over this, just as the day it happened. I've never been able to see OJ's face in the tabloids without seeing a monster's face.
Yeah, the car chase was on my 14th birthday. Bad birthday, but not a fraction as bad as that miserable verdict
Willie Mays the "Say Hey Kid" was not only one of the best baseball players to ever play the game, but an outstanding human being as well. With his overtly positive attitude and outstanding athletic abilities, he was able to breakdown barriers for African Americans in baseball and other sports as well. With his fervor to play and his passionate approach to the game, he could make middle-aged men want to play the game. His athleticism was amazing and he was able ro make the game exciting to watch with acrobatic catches and long home runs. He was a great man who could have a tremendous effect on young men. Its easy to see how he could turn OJ in a different direction. R.I.P.
As much as I thought I knew this story I learned SO much from this. Thank you Liam! More courtroom drama please!
I was a kid and every single day I went to my Grandmas, this Trial was on her TV. It was THE story. EVERYONE talked about this. It was so crazy and strange, even to this day.
That’s incorrect. The Bulls didn’t play in the Finals that year. It was Houston vs New York.
Well no shit. It was the only time in my 13 years of public school did every TV turn on and tune in to something not school related. That was the reading of the verdict. I happened to be in lunch but it was the same with those that were in class. Everybody was watching. The Time Square video is an all time classic. Don't know if it was staged or not but I'm sure the camera man knew what he was doing.
@@vincedidiana5781 thats incorrect. They did the year of the trial which is what hes talking about.
We were glued to it. I worked at a restaurant and had the TV on in the office and people kept coming back to watch. You'd go back to a table and just say - sorry, OJ trial. And they would nod.
It's crazy &hard to describe.
This episode is interesting in that it focuses not on the crime and police work, but on the trial.
Obviously most of the videos on this channel don’t have the trial take up more attention than the crime, but it would be interesting if there were more like this. I was in elementary school during the trial and knew of the outcome and it was interesting to hear the legal arguments analyzed
At least now we no longer have to use allegedly.
The OJ verdict was the first time I saw a cell phone in person, oddly enough. One of the mothers chaperoning a field trip brought one so someone watching at home could let her know when the verdict came in. I can still hear her frustrated groan when she heard he was found Not Guilty.
My buddy had one in 94 and I told him I need to go inside to make a phone call. He says just use this and I'm like does this thing really work? He said usually as long as I'm not too far out of town. I remember thinking this is amazing and it only made phone calls back then lol.
That jury would have said not guilty if there was video tape of him doing it
They didn’t want to be responsible for L.A. Riots part 2.
And not just the jury, but many in the Media too. The consensus in the Media was..."O.J. couldn't have murdered anyone, cause Mark Furman was a racist." It was disgusting. And so one has to wonder if the Media helped influence the jury..?
@@MikeB12800 exactly my thoughts ! It was all about preventing massive riots !!
@@frankv.2124 sounds familiar...
@@frankv.2124 Anarcho tyranny I wonder how many people appalled by this verdict support policies that let mobs hold the justice system hostage.
Two hours - epic!! Imagine turning this into a drinking game, taking shots every time Simon says “allegedly”!! 🤣🤣🤣
I like my liver…
You'd be wasted in the first five minutes!
I think I can make it through halfway through the video decently sober
Hospitalization speedrun
I've heard him say allegedly more to 18th century cases than in this one lol
I remember Ron. He won’t be forgotten. His dad has been so brave. ❤😢
This is one of the cases that really made me ashamed of the US education system. I was in junior high and we watched the trial and read about it for a modern history class. When the verdict was read live, we had kids cheering in the room. I was like: "but a combination of his and the victim's DNA was at the scene, in his car, and at his home, how does anything think he didn't do this?".
Because the evidence was tampered with. If the LA police hadn't been racist assholes and tried to frame OJ then the verdict would probably been different
As I remember, a lot of people didn't care if he was guilty. They saw a not guilty verdict as a "get back" at the LAPD & all the times truly innocent black men were railroaded. OJ was a hero to a lot of people & they acted like it was a movie.
This trial is a classic example of how flawed the justice and jury system is! Norm McDonald didn’t get fired because OJ Simpson was innocent!
I remember this. I also remember being disgusted at this massive miscarriage of justice back then, even with the small amount of info we got in the UK, everyone knew he did it. And I'm still disgusted today at what they allowed to happen
There's an old saying here in the U.S. .." Money Talks and B**l S**t Walks " when it comes to anything to do with the government....yeah cops = government,Court =government, public education system= government, etc, etc, etc .... Got no $ then your screwed.
AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
@@HumanBeing1974 As opposed to everywhere else, for the entirety of human history. Where justice was equally smeared across all social strata. Right. Welcome to the universe. You're on your own.
Simon explaining how scientific vulgarisation works and why it should be like this is a treasure.
The fact that Liam is a lawyer makes this episode so much better. Thanks for putting this forward Simon. It's exemplary and deserves a place in the "greatest of".