ROTTEN! Dismantled A 1997 FOUNTAIN 32 FEVER To Get My Money Back! Don’t Do This | Boat Restoration
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- Bad news, I was scammed. Turns out the 1997 Fountain 32 Fever Speed Boat I purchased to fix up had a rotten transom... worst part is the guy who sold it to me knew the entire time. It's an understatement to say I was devastated. Disappointment, anger, defeat were all things I felt when I discovered the soft fiberglass and wet wood. That being said, I could not stand to take a loss like this on a project, so I reevaluated and came up with a plan. This may be hard to watch for the boat enthusiasts and Fountain lovers out there, but let this be a lesson to all. ALWAYS SURVEY YOUR POTENTIAL BOAT PURCHASE BEFORE YOU BUY IT!
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Transom rott is pretty common in older boats with outdrives. It isnt just a fountain problem.
and a little re-enforcement and that boat woulda been fine for avg use for another 5+ years easily. But he paid twice what it's worth to begin with.
I am enjoying your channel
Ido. Now but I think that’s can be repair. I think you can safe that boat. I don now if is going cost too much
How much do you want for the hull
Sold the left over hull and trailer for $5000 a while back
You didn't get scammed...you missed the obvious
I was gonna say the transom isnt only a fountain problem lol at least he profited
Yup. Hire a professional yacht inspector or take the risk. The boat is almost 27 years old, so yeah, it's not gonna be perfect.
Who buys a boat and dosnt check the transom 😂😂😂😂 idiot.. me😂
Just fix it easy pezzy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 So True Man
You weren’t scammed you were a fool for not checking
@@geoffgold6773 he's the reason garbage is expensive, all those old boats with wood transom, stringers should be considered rotted.
He's clueless with labor. My time is valuable.
When buying a fiberglass boat no matter how new you should always check it over with a moisture meter. You can get one on line for a couple of hundred dollars. Lesson learned. Expensive lesson though.
Sorry man but you didn’t get scammed,you just admitted you didn’t do your research and check the entire boat over,your fault man
If the seller lied then yes he did get scammed. Especially if a buyers driving 10 hours to see the boat.
Boat is still fixable I have seen worse
So, I know you can make more money parting it out, but just made it much harder for someone that wants to fix the transom/stingers to have a complete boat…. If your intention was to sell the hull to someone that wants to fix it, what good is it for someone to go have to re-source everything you parted off of it?
If I had the time and cash I would've fixed the transom and rebuilt the boat... unfortunately I had to move and didn't have the band width to complete the project. Needed my cash out of it so I did what I needed to do. Bummer but live and learn.
Oh I got it. You purchased for more than you could get out of it selling it whole again because you thought you had a good transom. Now makes sense. You would have lost money otherwise.
People pay good money for nice parts but nobody will buy a project boat unless it’s practically free or you lie like the seller did. He probably got only a couple grand for the hull but a lot more off the parts than if he sold a project boat intact.
Similar thing happened to us when we bought our Baja 272 in 2013 from Texas. The website claimed they had certified technicians and said everything was ok! But when we put the boat in the water it started to take on water. Come to find out that all the wood in the transom was completely rotted and falling apart. We had to have the whole thing redone! Then the website we bought it from changed their description when we threatened to sue them. Our Baja is still here! Only problem is the floor has a soft spot, but we will get that fixed in the Spring.
Take out all the wood, pour epoxy between the transom.
Drill out all the holes needed after.
I have done that
You apparently know boats. I feel no pity for you. You check it out before you buy. Or this was the plan all along and it makes for video views
You probably should not be buying boats since you obviously do not know what you’re doing. Well, you do, but you do it after you buy it so you don’t.
You didn’t get scammed,,,, you just didn’t have someone look at the critical areas,,, easy fix,,, if you are putting inboard motors back in
I would have put some motors back in it and add handsome fun with it and then sold it to someone and told them the issues they can decide if they want to fix it
You didn't get scammed. You didn't look at it
You weren't scammed - you didn't do a thorough examination.
BTW, how do you know he sold it knowing that the transom rotted.
Exactly what I was thinking. Can’t blame someone for not doing your own due diligence.
@@bobleo873 and now he is selling parts that he does not know work or not
good thing you your able to part it, your gonna save anybody who watches this money.
Yeeep,
A man told me a story very similar to this when I was a teenager. He summed it up saying, "You pay for an education."
I have lived by that since then, and carefully spend my money, and research heavily before I buy anything.. even a pair of boots.😂
If you part this hull out it will end up in a landfill. Why would anyone buy it if it needs a transom, stringers and everything needed to make it complete? Trust me, they won't. IF you want to see this boat back on the water sell it as is to someone that will replace the stringers, transom and engines
Have a 27cc 6year the same problem got new 4 strokes and after a year noticed termites. Never get a boat with any wood composite all the way. The hull of all fountains are composite only the stringers an stern is plywood.
Isn’t it know that fountain is famous for that
This is a good learning video for me, no one has videos like this on what the stringers should sound like. You should cut it open so we can see what it looks like
Fill transom and stringers with epoxy. Drill holes and use slow setting epoxy. It’ll be fine.
I bought a 1983 26 Carver Monterey I checked everything out before I bought it going to need any motor but there is no delamination of Rod nowhere on the boat sorry this happened to you buddy the fountain 32 is an awesome boat
This happened in the 80s to my dad. His friend owned the dealership and when we went to look at this orange Nova. Nigel was digging around in the engine room with his key and found it rotten. We were so disappointed.
Cheers bro.
Getting scammed and being a fool by buying a boat without a survey are 2 different things. 🤷
True that!
Sorry to see this. Marine survey anytime you buy a boat ! The leverage they give will justify their cost 90% of the time anyway.
Couldn't agree more!
No doubt man, we almost bought a 2006 luhrs 32 open twin Cummins, we paid $1,100 for a full survey oil samples from motors and trans he went over the entire boat for 4 hours and gave us his report, long story short he saved us 80k.
Sad story ;/ But yes very common problem in old Fountains... Actually it is very common in most of the 80s and 90s boats, but Fountains are like sponge when it comes to water absorption. Gladly you will get your money back by selling parts from it! Hopefully next project will be better.
Greetings from Finland!
It’s a shame but we made the most of it. Thanks for following along and for the support. The fun never stops with the old boats.
Polyester composite vs epoxy composite.... first rotten like wood
@@northerngannetproject3147 Well thats not the case at all. :) It doesnt matter which resin u use with plywood core. If you dont seal the core properly or design the structure well, it will rott. In these cases even if they were made with epoxy the situation would be the same. Sealing everything is the keyword and ofcourse if u use modern nonrotten materials instead of wood thats different case also.
So re-stringer and transom it and be that guy. Kind of overly dramatic.
That's common with pretty much any boat from the 90s. Unless it's been stored indoors. Plenty of life left in that with some minor reinforcing. But yeah parting it out is probably the better financial move
So. you buy this hull and then wait to get it home to explore for possible problems? Who's negligence is that?
Mine.
I had never seen something like that before. I never knew to look for it. Bummer but we live and learn.
I'm sure it would have been less work, quicker and cheaper to fix the transom - but by stripping it no one will want it now.
Already sold to someone in the Chicago area.
@@BoatRestorationbyBen That's great news - hope you didn't loose out on it
I just now watched your first vid where you bring the Fountain home. You'd have to really, REALLY want & love Fountains (or any boat) to deal with a transom replacement and then replacing some or all of the stringers. Not worth the hassle in this case. Sorry you got worked over, :( Glad you parted it out.
First of all you weren’t scammed, It is quite possible that the previous owner did not know about the issues! Secondly Fountain is not known for their rotting transoms and stringers, Those issues can be found on almost any manufactures boat that is 25 to 30 years old and was assembled using wood for core material! There is only one person to blame and that is you, You probably should have brought someone with you who has at least some knowledge about boats! You said you went around the boat and did the knock test, Where did you learn that because that is not the way a Marine Surveyor checks for rot! I think you said you drove like12 to 14 hours to purchase a project boat with no motors for around $15,000, You could have at least spent $100 on Amazon and purchased a moisture meter! Due to the lack of motors you really didn’t have to worry about inspecting anything mechanical, Which only leaves the hull for you to inspect! 🤦♂️ I don’t want to be mean but you are trying to put the blame on Fountain and the seller, When in reality it is all on you! If you are that Incompetent when it comes to inspecting a boat how do you ever expect to do a full refit on a boat? I hope you are aware that boats and the installation and assembly of almost everything is highly regulated! Boats are not like cars where you can do whatever you want!
Thanks for the comment. The title sure did raise some attention. The whole ordeal was a lesson learned for me and one that is truly priceless when it comes to boats. I’ll never make that mistake again. Turns out boat had sunk and was auctioned before I bought it. Seller knew it all and failed to disclose it to me. Like I said, I’ll never make that mistake again. Have a great night. You should check out more of our videos.
@NeverEnoughPyro40 Before you comment and look stupid maybe find out the history of the boat.
Easy to fix…
Thanks for posting this man. Tough loss but lesson learned. This video helped me to pay more attention when I buy a boat. Keep up the good work, big fan of the channel🤘
SHEEESH, this video blew up
Yeah I can’t believe it. Negative videos and click bait must sell haha whistlin diesel is obviously on to something
@@BoatRestorationbyBen haha I guess so. That man does a great job at capturing attention. You have a good story and you presented the material really well. 24 hours on the road is a really long trip. I hope people keep watching your go fast boat content, it's my favorite.
Thank you @hondayamahafan! That means a lot to us. We will keep it up!
A ball peen hammer is the best tool for that job tap with the ball part all over the hull and transom. You can tell right away by the sound.
Very good video and I learned something too. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
That sucks Bud but you could fix this pretty easy rather than parting out. Glass work and stringers are not too bad to do. I looked at that boat and knew it was going to be a project. I am looking at a 38' next.
I would've fixed it but had to move unfortunately and didn't have the time.
I get why you don't want to restore the transom and support stringers. Maybe I am wrong, but,you are gonna have more labor and headache to part out Vs repair. I dunno, if you wanted a fountain you are losing that opportunity. JMHO.
bummer.....happens to the best of us.....never trust anyone....people suck and they lie.....
Dude. You did not get Scammed and you could reinforce the transom , put engines in it and get another 5+ years easy outta the old tub.
But the fact you paid 14k for a boat worth $6000-7500 at most tells me you're just a kid with no knowledge of boats.
-- and that Transom might be soft but it's 3 LAYERS and sandwich cored.
The trailer is worth more than the boat.
You saw a Fountain and said to yourself
" oh gee won't I be a popular chick magnet with this boat ! "
Well ya , you learned a valuable lesson.
But you probably made a mistake tearing it apart dude. Some 4mm stainless plate re-enforcement on that transom and it would be fine for years. soggy stringers aren't always rotten stringers.
Kids these days ....... 😂
lol
You didn't get scammed just got caught up in what it look like on the outside you said yourself that the motors were removed you should-of checked it out or hired a boat inspection person to look-it over we'll worth it the trailer alone is worth a good chunk of change alone. It actually might-be worth fixing it since it is a nice boat especially if you put the work into it. But Im sure you will find another boat that works for you. Good luck.
Damn man, was looking forward to seeing this thing if you ever came back to Boji. Met you last summer in okoboji, had the black speedboat, tied up to you on that windy day. Bad luck man! On to bigger and better.
Heck yeah we remember you! That was a sweet boat. We had a heck of a time anchoring with all that wind. Good hangin out with you all! Ya know I blame myself more than anyone due to my ignorance but what’s done is done. Moving on to bigger and better like you said! See you around.
Why not hire a marine surveyor for several hundred dollars, before investing money,it's logical. A marine surveyor saved me from a $20k rip-off involving a lawyer on the front lines.
If you ever buy a boat worth thousands always get a survey done
your the goof that did not do your homework !
Replacing that transom and middle stringer with coosa board and glassing it in is way less work than parting it out lol
I wish I would’ve had the time to do it. It was a sweet boat.
great rule of thumb / never buy anything for more than $300 on FB marketplace...
Did floor, stringers and transom on an 85 sea ray. Do it yourself and you could have a great boat for many years and the next owner will appreciate what you have done.
That why you don't get emotional about a purchase and take your time inspecting the boat before you buy!!!
Thank you for posting this video, Sorry for your loss ,Glad you'll part it out to get some money back, I learned from your video, THANK YOU,
what did you except ? its a play toy with two 500 horse power engines that weight 100 pounds each and they wave jump with it all the time and yeah you should have done better research !!!
Fountains always rot, that’s why I own a formula. Make a few vehicles owning formulas!!!
I knew it was going to be rotten but I didn’t want to post, I have had my fair share of fountain rot stories
Yeah you didn’t get scammed you just didn’t find it before handing money over this is kinda your fault the one who sold it may not have known either
If you buy a 25-year-old boat you can bet it has some rot somewhere it's pretty standard
Makin moves in the wrong direction
Sounds about right I’ve put many of them back together they run fast but rot faster.
Every guy that has bought a used boat has had to deal with a rotten transom, it goes with the territory...
All old boats get transom rot…should have been the first thing you checked
You should already have known that old boats had wood construction and wood rots that's no secret well nobody's pulling the wool over your eyes
you shouldve just left it alone and sold it complete for what you paid. transom and stringers is nothing to do but instead you destroyed a boat out of ignorance
Fountains are complete junk I would rather have a Bayliner before a fountain
Always check the hull from the inside on any boat
Should've had a survey done before you hand over the money. It was your own fault you got burned
pretty sure he said that in the video....?
Why didn't you check all of this when buying?
I would be the same .i don’t look at this stuff when looking at boats
Typical, blame everyone but yourself.
Why did you not check it out first ?? Big waste of time and money
Sorry to hear about your situation! Are you selling the trim tabs?
So fix it. Stop whining.
Feel you pain playa but Honestly so many people are great mechanics on cars etc vice versa and just never pay a professional to inspect something not in there wheel house!
What did you expect from an old Fountain? 😂
Would have loved to have seen it rebuilt..
Why you didn't check the boat out before buying it
Not scam...is just not your thing 100%
Always have a mechanic check out the boat before you buy it
Scams everywhere It sucks you got Duped ole boy but lesson learned and chin up next round you have better luck ... rest in Peace Lady Fountain....
I don’t think you got scammed. I just believe you didn’t do your due diligence getting a moisture reader would probably be the first thing you should buy before going to look at used boats.
Amen
Late 90s into the early 2000s, Reggie was pumping out boats like crazy. Fountain was no longer the low volume custom builder and basically became the Bayliner of Go Fasts. Sorry to hear you got a less than good boat.
24:31 I don't know but I think any boat with wood cores will rot out if people let water in. There's fasteners all up and down that stringer.
If they are notorious for that why not check that before you buy it just saying I hate it for you
Those are badass boats but notoriously have transom rot. Not a big deal if you can do glass work.
Did you not check before buying
Get a moister meter cheap insurance
Call reaggie.. maybe he will help ya
Are you still parting this out? If so what’s left. I have a 91 32 fever I’m building and she needs steering components and exhaust manifolds if you have any. Preferably Gil, ss stainless.
Unfortunately I am not.
Why not rebuild the transom?
Had to move and couldn't support the project timeframe. Sad but it is what it is.
Most 30 year old boats are rotten
It can be repaired. Lot of work but if you're pulling the engines anyway then it's not too bad of a job.
I wish I had the time back when I filmed this video. This project was a bummer.
Ever hear of a " boat survey "
What a ya want out of a fountain
First try to sell it wholesale
SO Over dramtic dude, Alot easier to just re-stringer and transom it and be the guy that did a step by step programe lasting for a few weeks. Not overly much harder then parting out etc
Are you dumb? Maybe read his previous replies.
Philmont Scout Ranch....That was a awesume hike
Small drill bit on a drill is good way to find rot.
Home work first
16k views…great job👍
The " Bud light banner " in your shop says alot
Let’s be fair that banner was from 2017 brother
Not Scammed. I buy old vehicles and equipment all the time. Fully expect to do repairs. Older stuff is built far better with few exceptions. Most new stuff is overpriced garbage. Engineered to fall apart and need constant maintenance or replacement.
You could have discovered this problem, then negotiated the correct value and worked out a deal. Seller wins and you get an expensive education.
That sucks man. That guy created a ton of work for you. Lotta scammers out there. Good luck tho!
Thanks Kevin! It did suck but we got through it.