To be fair...Justice for all album is probably Lars best achievement with some odd turn arounds and breakdowns, if he hasn't played these songs for a while i can see him having trouble, its hard enough trying to remember all the little breakdowns on guitar too with the songs being around the 10 min mark.
Actually Shortest Straw is 6 mins or so in length. And HE WROTE the fucking drum parts. How the fuck does he look like he's hearing it for the 1st time? He's so sloppy at times. And don't get me wrong, I love everything he does (at least in the studio, with the exception of St. Anger).
Thing is they haven't played it since 89 or so. I am a musician myself and if you don't play it it's easily forgotten, I haven't played my song for 5 years and had to remind myself all things I wrote, so I don't blame him for not remembering all stuff out there.
EddieMachetti ProTools is a computer recording program (a Digital Audio Workstation or “DAW”) created by digidesign/Avid Audio that didn’t exist as an alternative to recording studio analog/digital tape mediums until the late ‘90s. Every Metallica album since SKOM has been done on ProTools, I think. And Justice For All was not done on ProTools. Nothing like it existed back then. Takes were edited together by cutting up reels of tape with a razorblade and sticking desired chunks in place on other takes’ cut-up tapes. The whole Some Kind of Monster album was edited together from fragments of songs using ProTools, and in the Death Magnetic video you see ProTools screens on their monitors a lot, including one scene where Lars is telling the engineer how he wants the takes edited together. While some kind of ProTools ancestor program called “Sound Designer” existed from 1984, it was not suitable for multitrack band recording and was more of a MIDI application. Many recording studios did use digital tape formats in the late 80s and 90s; this was tape that gave a sound quality more comparable to what computer recording would eventually provide (no hiss or generational high-end attenuation etc) The thing that sucks about digital formats is that they’re proprietary. In the future they won’t be able to remix the last bunch of Metallica albums to make them sound up to date or better by then-modern standards like we can with multitrack tapes from the ‘60s-‘90s now, because ProTools will be on version 87 or whatever (if it still exists) so if it’s even able to access the sessions then surely at least all the plug-ins and shit won’t work. Whereas in a Mad Max post-apocalyptic universe, they’ll still be able to do a 100th anniversary remix of Sgt Pepper.
EddieMachetti “protools, editing... its all the same shit” No it isn’t. My whole point is that you seem to think “protools” is fancy recording studio jargon for “editing”. It is not. It is the name of what you chilluns now call an “app”. It replaced mixing desks going into tape machines for multitrack recording. That’s it. It made editing easier and so many people started to rely on it to get perfect performances out of imperfect playing: that’s why people associate it with edited together takes. Recording studios phased over from analog and digital tape formats through the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. No ‘80s bands had ProTools, no ‘80s version of it was even called ProTools (that name was first used in ‘93) and way up until the late ‘90s it was only good for 12-bit synth w/drum machine music. Stuff that sounded like video games. I wanted to help you with your little misunderstanding at first but you seem like a real weird little piece of shit so I won’t make that mistake again.
When you’re so mentally incompetent that you need it explained to you that when you haven’t played a song the way you did it in the studio SINCE playing it in the studio 30+ years ago you might need to relearn it.
Affan Ahmad He wouldn't have to relearn his own creations if he would practice once in a while. Maybe he should spend some of that napster money on drumming lessons.
Jonatann Peigne ofc you have to relearn shit after 20 years of never playing it once and LOL youre still on about napster? step into 2015 with the rest of us pls
trickznmix Having written a song, doesn't mean you know it better. In their situation, they play and write so much different stuff, that a lot of songs are just left behind after recording them. I saw an interview with Mustaine, where he met up with a fan, that basically knew some of their songs better, than he did, because the songs were wrote on the go in the studio, released, and then never revisited. Fans have the time to go through a catalog of a bands songs, and learn them, while a band with a big repertoire will most of the time only focus on the material that they actually play live. And yeah, having written it 20 years earlier doesn't really help either.
Damn I can't imagine how hard that must be. Even harder for Lars to think "Damn I can't believe I'm having a tough time playing a song I was able to perform easily 20 years ago" Good on him though, still one of my favorite drummers, Lars.
Lars can play this song anytime. He still plays it in concert. I know, I've seen him on the World Magnetic Tour. THE PROBLEM IS that he had to motion capture this, so he had to time it perfectly. Asking him to do it out of the blue is hard, so he had to "listen & learn" to get the rhythm. Stop hating the guy. I don't get why people call him a bad drummer...is it because he's not fast enough? Or because he can't make good beats or something? I think he's fine. He's one of my favorites, too.
I'm a drumming student I`m learning how to play drumms I cannot believe how people are not musicians talk and judge so badly about Lars he has much more experience than those ignorants and he has the right to make a mistake he`s not a God and he`s a very good drummer obviously there are other drummers better than him but he plays very well and he`s my mentor to me I saw him on the Mefallica show this last wenesday in Quito, he`s georgous¡
He literally says this was going to happen in the video 😂 “this is going on youtube isn’t it” Thing is, Lars has admitted he’s not as good as he used to be due to decreased stamina from age and drug abuse, plus a lot of songs on this album were edited together after separate song parts were recorded on their own. So even when he wrote this he didn’t have to play it all the way through. This is also a rarified situation to be playing drums in. They’re muted which makes them feel different, he’s wearing a motion capture bodysuit, and someone is counting down from 3 and pressing play... and it’s coming over speakers, not headphones. Lars would count this song in if he was really playing it live, and be wearing in-ear monitors. This would be tricky for a lot of people to do for their own song, not just aged Lars.
I'm a drummer, and i've seen them this 21st live, and let me tell you, contrary to what most people believe, he is an amazing drummer Of course during the justice era, he's style was doing all these crazy fills and crazy beat changes, nowadays he just plays more relaxed and improvises a lot He still does an amazing job on songs like one, battery, all nightmare long, which aren't easy songs
I'm a drummer myself so I can't really hate on Lars for this. Also a Metallica has made 9 albums I'm their career and half the time they don't even play most of And Justice For All. Mostly just One and Dyers Eve as far as I know. So stop hating on Lars everyone.
Dude, theres a reason we have yt full of lars urlich fails. I have played drums myself. It is not hard, when you practice and got "it" you will be good. Lars doesn't practice & he lacks talent.
This is like a dream where you're all of a sudden the drummer for Metallica, and you know the songs by heart, but then you're sitting there trying to play the song and you just can't play it right.
I really don't like how people who have done absolutely nothing with their so called "talent" can talk crap about a man who played the drums for such a legendary rock band for almost 3 decades. Come on guys just shoooooosh and enjoy the metal. Ya big jerks.
Daniel Larsen : You're so right and I totally agree with you ! Lars and Dave Mustaine are ok now but some anti-Lars think they are most intelligent that this gods... Ariel : Stop living in the past, there is more than ten years that MetallicA and Napster works together
This is cool.But yeah, only one Speaker! Funny at the end.Lars did say he couldn't really pick up GH drums when he did play them.He prefered the bass guitar.\m/ Lars Rocks! Metallica Rock! \m/
i think its pretty funny how people thinks he is the worst drummer ever, when he was the one who started and created one. Of the most succesful and best bands in the music history and how can he be the worst, when he back in the 80``s was seen as the best drummer in the world, and i know he is not the best anymore, but he knows his shit and he is the one who hold metallica together, when it comes to get the concerts up and running and getting all that stuff readdy for the tours.
I know a lot of drummers, this isn't at all hard to do. Lars is an average drummer at best. I love metallica, I love the 89 concerts the most, that had some really good drumming, Lars has let his skill slip over the years. It's distracting when you see Metallica or hear them even on CD, even with editing these days. Lars just isn't that passionate about drums, not enough to keep improving over time. It's not an age thing, look at Danny Carey from Tool, the guy is over 50 years old and his feel just gets better over time, or at the very least keeps a very high standard.
The guy's a machine, he knows the songs all right because he performed them so many times, not just shows but the many rehearsals, tuning room sessions and the years they take to pull out albums. Here, trying to get into it without the band, with this ridiculous costume and those guys counting down like they're back in the studio, with the tune being played on a radio somewhere in that room, that has to be confusing at first but he finally gets it done after a few false starts. No big deal.
@kabaara the drum set sounds like that because they put muting drumheads and tightened cymbals, since they're just recording video and not audio, they firgured it didn't have to be loud
He's actually good in the way that he listened to it just one time and got it perfect when in the other 4 takes he could hardly get the first 4 seconds right.
When you've got 175 or so songs under your belt, some of which you havn't played in years and your asked to just remember it verbatim, it can be difficult to just pull it out, especially songs from the Justice album like The Shorest Straw... getting the intro correct in that many tries isn't bad really, it's not a song that they do everyday...
@XxZero97531xX I see what you mean, but this isn't a song Metallica plays every night. And they need good timing because that is the footage going into the game.
if you play this song often the rhythm will be remembered but if you havnt played this song for years like he had on this vid its a really hard and weird rhythm to remember. So i dont blame him either but i bought the quebec magnetic blu ray dvd where they played this song and he nailed it perfectly. :)
@LouTheMetalhead mate if you read the annotations in the beginning the last time they played shortest straw was on February 9th, 1997. if you wrote a song back in the 80's and haven't played it since, do you honestly think you can remember everything? they did other songs too that overshadowed what he'd remembered doing with shortest straw, it happens to everyone, me you and even lars is no exception.
if I'm not mistaken, they are playing the original song from the album now is a little big different that Lars is gonna do the same exact performance that he did in the album, I think that why he fail the intro so many times :P
You guys know the last time he played this song was in like the 90's? How bout I teach you the drum pattern to a metal song, have you never play then have you play it perfectly 12 years later, yea that's gonna happen.
The intro rhythm for this is deceptively hard and I'm not surprised he's struggling. It starts with a pickup bar (anacrusis) with a single 16 note on the upbeat leading into 2 eighth notes on the downbeat. With that in mind, everything that follows feel crooked. It's simple enough with a click. Without a click however, it's tough to get the hang of because there are no other instruments playing in the spaces so you can't get a reference of where you are. You need really good timing to pull it off.
@Fucklesticks youre right there are many who are better but I think he is quite good in the album and justice for all. his way of playing in the old albums is quite intresting he is a quite creative rockdrummer in my opinion. greetings from germany :)
Don Taylor, hard to believe, not because I'm a fan (of Lars nooo) but because they're a band, it seems unlikely that they prefer to record with other drummer. Is this a normal thing for metallica or it was only on the Black Album thing? Thanks for the answer.
If you've ever seen him playing live, you'll know that he's improvisational. All the songs have changed over the years from the old recordings. I'm not surprised that he had to relearn the old stuff.
@HotXRock I saw them twice in Death Magnetic tour and they play shortest straw on both shows. They change the setlist in every show depending on the country. But he is making fun of it.
Even Take #5 is wrong. He is hitting "two" when he should be hitting "three." I'm not knocking Lars...not at all. He is my fav drummer...just wondering if anyone else noticed this. However, after he got past the intro, it looks like he nailed it for the rest of the song!
i know why this happened. it's because Lars(he said it himself) just has his moments when he just feels the song and the tempo and he's like ''we need to this now, i'm feelin it" and it's just one oportunity. i think this intro was one of the case.
Drummers are the ones who provide the tempo for the band. Trying to match up the tempo straight away from a recording will require a few attempts. Almost no drummer will get the tempo correct from a recording unless they are set into the tempo to begin with (or provide the tempo).
Lars actually did get lessons after he recorded Kill Em All, and his best drumming is probably on Load and Re-Load. He's a rock drummer who never had particularly good chops or anything, but hey, he could play to a click most of the time and put out some solid stuff.
When metallica hears anything on and justice for all,they start to cry.they can't believe they made such an awesome,flawless perfect recording,lars simply could never drum like that again,he is to lazy now,although death magnetic had some very bright spots and I think he is capable.
I have to agree... this happens to me sometimes, too. 1 month of not practicing a song at ALL is enough to cause a lapse in memory. Source: I play bass in a band.
I just love Lars.... really... he might not be the ultimate best drummer in the world but he is such a down to earth guy and he´s fun....favourite drummer ever love ya Lars
@@Kuschelkeks91 lmao I’m surprised this got a response 💀. But yeah, looking back, it would’ve been better if the bus fell on Lars. The snare for St Anger would’ve never happened and And Justice For All would have audible bass.
@MrDemontrees just to let you know neil peart is considered the best jazz musician when it comes to the drums but hey that is just my opinion and the other jazz musician who makes their money on their music but then tell me who is your favorite drummer? :)
@Ramtough93 I agree with your statement about jumping in without counting. Instead of me being smartas, i took the sticks, looked for the song on yt, and got it perfectly in about 10 takes, without counting, and this is the first time i heard the song. I admit, its not so easy, but he should be able to get it in 2 takes...
The issue is Lars, as the drummer, is used to timing the band into the song, yet here he has no countdown, and has no idea when the music will start (nor get the tempo perfect from the first few notes), so it will be difficult for him to time the first notes correctly, and keep time from there. Once into the song, he should be fine, its just starting the song. This is the same reason playing along with a CD or MP3 is hard, because its hard to know when the music starts.
Lars was obviously never the best drummer in history but his emotion and heart in playing was genius...His creativity made him the drummer he'll always be..
@RWH411 yeah but you gotta remember how many damn songs they have. they have to go back and refresh all the ones they generally don't play much and they haven't played shortest straw live in it's entirety much probably the last time he played this song fully was back when they were recording Justice.
To be fair...Justice for all album is probably Lars best achievement with some odd turn arounds and breakdowns, if he hasn't played these songs for a while i can see him having trouble, its hard enough trying to remember all the little breakdowns on guitar too with the songs being around the 10 min mark.
I completely agree. I love lars on justice, and he probs hasnt focused on that.
Actually Shortest Straw is 6 mins or so in length. And HE WROTE the fucking drum parts. How the fuck does he look like he's hearing it for the 1st time? He's so sloppy at times. And don't get me wrong, I love everything he does (at least in the studio, with the exception of St. Anger).
Thing is they haven't played it since 89 or so. I am a musician myself and if you don't play it it's easily forgotten, I haven't played my song for 5 years and had to remind myself all things I wrote, so I don't blame him for not remembering all stuff out there.
EddieMachetti ProTools is a computer recording program (a Digital Audio Workstation or “DAW”) created by digidesign/Avid Audio that didn’t exist as an alternative to recording studio analog/digital tape mediums until the late ‘90s. Every Metallica album since SKOM has been done on ProTools, I think. And Justice For All was not done on ProTools. Nothing like it existed back then. Takes were edited together by cutting up reels of tape with a razorblade and sticking desired chunks in place on other takes’ cut-up tapes.
The whole Some Kind of Monster album was edited together from fragments of songs using ProTools, and in the Death Magnetic video you see ProTools screens on their monitors a lot, including one scene where Lars is telling the engineer how he wants the takes edited together.
While some kind of ProTools ancestor program called “Sound Designer” existed from 1984, it was not suitable for multitrack band recording and was more of a MIDI application.
Many recording studios did use digital tape formats in the late 80s and 90s; this was tape that gave a sound quality more comparable to what computer recording would eventually provide (no hiss or generational high-end attenuation etc)
The thing that sucks about digital formats is that they’re proprietary. In the future they won’t be able to remix the last bunch of Metallica albums to make them sound up to date or better by then-modern standards like we can with multitrack tapes from the ‘60s-‘90s now, because ProTools will be on version 87 or whatever (if it still exists) so if it’s even able to access the sessions then surely at least all the plug-ins and shit won’t work. Whereas in a Mad Max post-apocalyptic universe, they’ll still be able to do a 100th anniversary remix of Sgt Pepper.
EddieMachetti “protools, editing... its all the same shit”
No it isn’t. My whole point is that you seem to think “protools” is fancy recording studio jargon for “editing”. It is not. It is the name of what you chilluns now call an “app”. It replaced mixing desks going into tape machines for multitrack recording. That’s it. It made editing easier and so many people started to rely on it to get perfect performances out of imperfect playing: that’s why people associate it with edited together takes.
Recording studios phased over from analog and digital tape formats through the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. No ‘80s bands had ProTools, no ‘80s version of it was even called ProTools (that name was first used in ‘93) and way up until the late ‘90s it was only good for 12-bit synth w/drum machine music. Stuff that sounded like video games.
I wanted to help you with your little misunderstanding at first but you seem like a real weird little piece of shit so I won’t make that mistake again.
When you need to learn a song you wrote
to be fair they hadn't played the song for a while at this point
When you’re so mentally incompetent that you need it explained to you that when you haven’t played a song the way you did it in the studio SINCE playing it in the studio 30+ years ago you might need to relearn it.
Harto Korpela It’s not like they never play it.
yeah out of about 150 that they have done over their career and probably one of the toughest in terms of drumming
HAHAHAHAHAHA damn so true
My left ear loved this video
yes becuase we watch videos with our ears
Karrotz Witte well you don't hear with your eyes either
My right ear also did
@@NeonBeeCat someones got their headphones on backward
@@damienbartolo9822 nah my right ear enjoyed the video more
best quote ever "The Day Guitar Hero broke Lars..."
"just let me learn it" ...Lars, you wrote it.... -_-
yea...20 years prior. Dont worry, he relearned the song, they perform it a lot more now
Affan Ahmad He wouldn't have to relearn his own creations if he would practice once in a while. Maybe he should spend some of that napster money on drumming lessons.
Jonatann Peigne ofc you have to relearn shit after 20 years of never playing it once and LOL youre still on about napster? step into 2015 with the rest of us pls
trickznmix Having written a song, doesn't mean you know it better. In their situation, they play and write so much different stuff, that a lot of songs are just left behind after recording them. I saw an interview with Mustaine, where he met up with a fan, that basically knew some of their songs better, than he did, because the songs were wrote on the go in the studio, released, and then never revisited. Fans have the time to go through a catalog of a bands songs, and learn them, while a band with a big repertoire will most of the time only focus on the material that they actually play live.
And yeah, having written it 20 years earlier doesn't really help either.
Every musician has to relearn the songs before a tour. It takes mere weeks to forget how to play a song when your repertoire is over 25 songs.
Damn I can't imagine how hard that must be. Even harder for Lars to think "Damn I can't believe I'm having a tough time playing a song I was able to perform easily 20 years ago" Good on him though, still one of my favorite drummers, Lars.
He played it perfectly tonight for the Metallica 40th Anniversary concert!!!
He simplified it like usual
@@Tdrummer888 Not the intro, which is the part he's struggling with in this video
„Perfect“ is relative
To be fair, the shortest straw has the most mindfucky intro of metallica to play.
Lars can play this song anytime. He still plays it in concert. I know, I've seen him on the World Magnetic Tour. THE PROBLEM IS that he had to motion capture this, so he had to time it perfectly. Asking him to do it out of the blue is hard, so he had to "listen & learn" to get the rhythm. Stop hating the guy. I don't get why people call him a bad drummer...is it because he's not fast enough? Or because he can't make good beats or something? I think he's fine. He's one of my favorites, too.
2:33 Larry was wearing a Megadeth shirt.
"its gonna straight to youtube"
I really laughed at that part :D
I'm a drumming student I`m learning how to play drumms I cannot believe how people are not musicians talk and judge so badly about Lars he has much more experience than those ignorants and he has the right to make a mistake he`s not a God and he`s a very good drummer obviously there are other drummers better than him but he plays very well and he`s my mentor to me I saw him on the Mefallica show this last wenesday in Quito, he`s georgous¡
"and he`s my mentor to me"
In other words, you are an absolute beginner and don't know any better yet.
He literally says this was going to happen in the video 😂 “this is going on youtube isn’t it”
Thing is, Lars has admitted he’s not as good as he used to be due to decreased stamina from age and drug abuse, plus a lot of songs on this album were edited together after separate song parts were recorded on their own. So even when he wrote this he didn’t have to play it all the way through.
This is also a rarified situation to be playing drums in. They’re muted which makes them feel different, he’s wearing a motion capture bodysuit, and someone is counting down from 3 and pressing play... and it’s coming over speakers, not headphones. Lars would count this song in if he was really playing it live, and be wearing in-ear monitors. This would be tricky for a lot of people to do for their own song, not just aged Lars.
I'm a drummer, and i've seen them this 21st live, and let me tell you, contrary to what most people believe, he is an amazing drummer
Of course during the justice era, he's style was doing all these crazy fills and crazy beat changes, nowadays he just plays more relaxed and improvises a lot
He still does an amazing job on songs like one, battery, all nightmare long, which aren't easy songs
He's so awesome. I love how he is always sticking his tongue out. Such a rockstar!
I'm a drummer myself so I can't really hate on Lars for this. Also a Metallica has made 9 albums I'm their career and half the time they don't even play most of And Justice For All. Mostly just One and Dyers Eve as far as I know. So stop hating on Lars everyone.
Then probably You are as weak as he is
No I just know how hard it is to play drums. I think I'm good but I'm always working hard.
Dude, theres a reason we have yt full of lars urlich fails. I have played drums myself. It is not hard, when you practice and got "it" you will be good. Lars doesn't practice & he lacks talent.
I'm not trying to argue I'm just saying that it's hard work and everyone makes mistakes. Lars just happens to make a lot of mistakes.
Tyler Melton Ahahaahaha that comment made me laugh. Kudos to you sir
I wish I could find the full version of him doing it on those drums , I freaking love that stuff
Im a real fast learner trust me
This is like a dream where you're all of a sudden the drummer for Metallica, and you know the songs by heart, but then you're sitting there trying to play the song and you just can't play it right.
which bright spark thought recording these without a click track was a good idea?
It doesn't matter. You can't set a click track to Metallica because Lars is ALWAYS off.
Hey, Tantara! Love you guys, your album preview was the greatest thing I've ever heard.
i think that's the hardest part of being in a band. you have to remember the patterns to all of the songs and Metallica has a LOT of songs
Dude, you crack me up. This is hilarious, please continue.
I really don't like how people who have done absolutely nothing with their so called "talent" can talk crap about a man who played the drums for such a legendary rock band for almost 3 decades. Come on guys just shoooooosh and enjoy the metal. Ya big jerks.
Do you need to be a master chef trained in France to be allowed to send back a plate with raw chicken? No.
i know about Napster. I know about rythm. I know Lars Sucks.
Daniel Larsen : You're so right and I totally agree with you ! Lars and Dave Mustaine are ok now but some anti-Lars think they are most intelligent that this gods...
Ariel : Stop living in the past, there is more than ten years that MetallicA and Napster works together
***** cry me a river ulrich fanboy
I'm yet to have unlocked the tin can drums weapon in this game.
Don't worry, Lars. I look the exact same way when I play drums: Struggling at first and throwing sticks in the air in rage-quit fashion
I think Lars Ulrich is living proof that there is no direct correlation between talent and success,
+Mikeoneus dude
+sadsadsa asadasd Not necessarily, look at Kim kardashian.
JerseyRulez yeah, well Kim doesn’t play instruments. For instruments it’s necessary.
This is cool.But yeah, only one Speaker! Funny at the end.Lars did say he couldn't really pick up GH drums when he did play them.He prefered the bass guitar.\m/ Lars Rocks! Metallica Rock! \m/
My left ear enjoyed this video
+Evan Howieson Laughed so hard at this comment. Totally annoying to be listening to this on one ear xDD Happy New Year, bro ;)
+Daniel M. O. Wasn't expecting a reply that nice! Thank you :)
i think its pretty funny how people thinks he is the worst drummer ever, when he was the one who started and created one. Of the most succesful and best bands in the music history and how can he be the worst, when he back in the 80``s was seen as the best drummer in the world, and i know he is not the best anymore, but he knows his shit and he is the one who hold metallica together, when it comes to get the concerts up and running and getting all that stuff readdy for the tours.
I know a lot of drummers, this isn't at all hard to do.
Lars is an average drummer at best.
I love metallica, I love the 89 concerts the most, that had some really good drumming, Lars has let his skill slip over the years. It's distracting when you see Metallica or hear them even on CD, even with editing these days.
Lars just isn't that passionate about drums, not enough to keep improving over time.
It's not an age thing, look at Danny Carey from Tool, the guy is over 50 years old and his feel just gets better over time, or at the very least keeps a very high standard.
The guy's a machine, he knows the songs all right because he performed them so many times, not just shows but the many rehearsals, tuning room sessions and the years they take to pull out albums. Here, trying to get into it without the band, with this ridiculous costume and those guys counting down like they're back in the studio, with the tune being played on a radio somewhere in that room, that has to be confusing at first but he finally gets it done after a few false starts. No big deal.
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@PIlotrcm This was when they were making Guitar Hero Metallica, he wore it so they could use his movements in the game.
only one thing to say to that ...
sad but treu ...
hahaha.... & hahahaha... yes!!!! and he played wrong finally... stupid!!!
@kabaara the drum set sounds like that because they put muting drumheads and tightened cymbals, since they're just recording video and not audio, they firgured it didn't have to be loud
Drums sounds like a kitchen's pots
That's because they were dummy drums just set up for motion capture
i wud love to see u remember the song atleast 10yrs later...and the pure timing..
i love how he gets really into it like his face expressions and stuff
sweet vid
Yes they are. I had a blast with you man, that was great.
He's actually good in the way that he listened to it just one time and got it perfect when in the other 4 takes he could hardly get the first 4 seconds right.
When you've got 175 or so songs under your belt, some of which you havn't played in years and your asked to just remember it verbatim, it can be difficult to just pull it out, especially songs from the Justice album like The Shorest Straw... getting the intro correct in that many tries isn't bad really, it's not a song that they do everyday...
@XxZero97531xX I see what you mean, but this isn't a song Metallica plays every night. And they need good timing because that is the footage going into the game.
if you play this song often the rhythm will be remembered but if you havnt played this song for years like he had on this vid its a really hard and weird rhythm to remember. So i dont blame him either but i bought the quebec magnetic blu ray dvd where they played this song and he nailed it perfectly. :)
It probably doesn't help that they almost never play this song live.
@LouTheMetalhead mate if you read the annotations in the beginning the last time they played shortest straw was on February 9th, 1997. if you wrote a song back in the 80's and haven't played it since, do you honestly think you can remember everything? they did other songs too that overshadowed what he'd remembered doing with shortest straw, it happens to everyone, me you and even lars is no exception.
It was recorded in studio takes, otherwise, he didn't play the full song all together. Also, when Dyers Eve is played live, he doesn't double bass.
if I'm not mistaken, they are playing the original song from the album
now is a little big different that Lars is gonna do the same exact performance that he did in the album, I think that why he fail the intro so many times :P
You guys know the last time he played this song was in like the 90's? How bout I teach you the drum pattern to a metal song, have you never play then have you play it perfectly 12 years later, yea that's gonna happen.
its because before this game, the last time he played this song was 10 years ago. But they started playing it again since september 19, 2009
The intro rhythm for this is deceptively hard and I'm not surprised he's struggling. It starts with a pickup bar (anacrusis) with a single 16 note on the upbeat leading into 2 eighth notes on the downbeat. With that in mind, everything that follows feel crooked. It's simple enough with a click. Without a click however, it's tough to get the hang of because there are no other instruments playing in the spaces so you can't get a reference of where you are. You need really good timing to pull it off.
"i'll never think bad things again i promise"
So many years behind the drums, and still such a newb!
@MrDemontrees i know you said that you wouldnt argue but you need to do some reasearch about drummers and lars`s talent and succes in drumming
Well that is one of the hardest arrangement for drums after all. \m/
Much like all of us getting old. We hate it when we cant do things like we used to when we were young. Lars is on that journey with us.
is it just me or does the drums sound awesome at 1:37?
this intro rhythm is sooo awesome ... love it!
@Fucklesticks youre right there are many who are better but I think he is quite good in the album and justice for all. his way of playing in the old albums is quite intresting he is a quite creative rockdrummer in my opinion.
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Actually, you did, but you're still hilarious. You make my day even better.
Don Taylor, hard to believe, not because I'm a fan (of Lars nooo) but because they're a band, it seems unlikely that they prefer to record with other drummer. Is this a normal thing for metallica or it was only on the Black Album thing? Thanks for the answer.
@AndrianScheepers Yea check it out, its titled just Dave Lombardo Drum Clinic "Raining Blood"
If you've ever seen him playing live, you'll know that he's improvisational. All the songs have changed over the years from the old recordings. I'm not surprised that he had to relearn the old stuff.
to be fair the countdown is just 1
since the song begins in 1/8
That's right lars, this is going straight to youtube.
Hahaha, well done! Way to go!
This was awesome.
Made me love the guy XD
sometimes i think that its a drum machine used on And Justice For All album
@HotXRock I saw them twice in Death Magnetic tour and they play shortest straw on both shows. They change the setlist in every show depending on the country. But he is making fun of it.
whoa you really showed me up on that one, wow I can't believe that you could say something so harsh
i love playing this song on drums
Even Take #5 is wrong. He is hitting "two" when he should be hitting "three." I'm not knocking Lars...not at all. He is my fav drummer...just wondering if anyone else noticed this. However, after he got past the intro, it looks like he nailed it for the rest of the song!
I heard they brought in a look alike who had never sat behind a drum kit in his life to do the motion capture. He did it in one take.
"just let me learn it!" LOL, you freakin' wrote it, Lars!
i know why this happened. it's because Lars(he said it himself) just has his moments when he just feels the song and the tempo and he's like ''we need to this now, i'm feelin it" and it's just one oportunity. i think this intro was one of the case.
Damn right Lars, it is going straight to TH-cam.
@slipring420 it was like 1982! Those songs were technical for their time!
@PeikkoKuningas95 dude, metallica hasn't played in atlanta since october 2009.
Drummers are the ones who provide the tempo for the band. Trying to match up the tempo straight away from a recording will require a few attempts. Almost no drummer will get the tempo correct from a recording unless they are set into the tempo to begin with (or provide the tempo).
these cymbals sound awesome :D:D where can i buy dummy cymbals? :D
If you don't play a song for twelve years, you're bound to forget it
@SammyD96Alwayz Who's Gen Kruper? I've heard Gene Krupa. and I don't think you're actually comparing Lars to Gene Krupa. At least I really hope not!
Lars actually did get lessons after he recorded Kill Em All, and his best drumming is probably on Load and Re-Load. He's a rock drummer who never had particularly good chops or anything, but hey, he could play to a click most of the time and put out some solid stuff.
so, who do you think he ranks with?
Also, there are plenty of musicians I don't like that I think are awesome at their instrument.
When metallica hears anything on and justice for all,they start to cry.they can't believe they made such an awesome,flawless perfect recording,lars simply could never drum like that again,he is to lazy now,although death magnetic had some very bright spots and I think he is capable.
my left ear loves this
"This is going straight to TH-cam, isn't it?"
Yeah, it pretty much did Lars. He still wins anyway.
Man, those cymbals sound SSOOO great.
Ooh facebalm? Which brand do you use?
I have to agree... this happens to me sometimes, too. 1 month of not practicing a song at ALL is enough to cause a lapse in memory.
Source: I play bass in a band.
in his defense it very hard to get the timing down exactly without a click track
I just love Lars.... really... he might not be the ultimate best drummer in the world but he is such a down to earth guy and he´s fun....favourite drummer ever
love ya Lars
Lars is an asshole
@@shtickeh9715 yeaaaah.... Now I know that too... You might have noticed that my comment is 8 years old
@@Kuschelkeks91 lmao I’m surprised this got a response 💀. But yeah, looking back, it would’ve been better if the bus fell on Lars. The snare for St Anger would’ve never happened and And Justice For All would have audible bass.
@@shtickeh9715 well... I think the bus shouldn't have hit anyone and maybe Cliff would have steered them into a totally different way.
@@Kuschelkeks91 yeah I don’t wish death upon anyone, it would’ve been nice of cliff just lived
@MrDemontrees just to let you know neil peart is considered the best jazz musician when it comes to the drums but hey that is just my opinion and the other jazz musician who makes their money on their music but then tell me who is your favorite drummer? :)
@Ramtough93 I agree with your statement about jumping in without counting. Instead of me being smartas, i took the sticks, looked for the song on yt, and got it perfectly in about 10 takes, without counting, and this is the first time i heard the song. I admit, its not so easy, but he should be able to get it in 2 takes...
The issue is Lars, as the drummer, is used to timing the band into the song, yet here he has no countdown, and has no idea when the music will start (nor get the tempo perfect from the first few notes), so it will be difficult for him to time the first notes correctly, and keep time from there. Once into the song, he should be fine, its just starting the song. This is the same reason playing along with a CD or MP3 is hard, because its hard to know when the music starts.
Lars was obviously never the best drummer in history but his emotion and heart in playing was genius...His creativity made him the drummer he'll always be..
@RWH411 yeah but you gotta remember how many damn songs they have. they have to go back and refresh all the ones they generally don't play much and they haven't played shortest straw live in it's entirety much probably the last time he played this song fully was back when they were recording Justice.
the shortest straw. he doesnt play this song many times, and this is so progressive.
But finally he can, with double bass included.
They played this song live at Ft lauderdale when i went! Insane!
@zephead26 I heard about that video actually, I'm keen to see it! I've been looking for it
They should have a click track of the same tempo of the song so that way he doesn't have to guess when the track starts playing.
todos podemos cometer errores....te perdonamos Lars!!!
pd: esto lo pueden encontrar en Guitar Hero:Metallica (extras)