If you watch an unalerted snapmaw for long enough, it does a rather curious behavior: it submerges itself in the water for a while, then hauls itself onto the shore or into the shallows and coughs up multiple canisters of chillwater. It's possible to wait and see them repeat this cycle for more and more canisters. My hypothesis is that they are not only purification engines, using the chillwater like other machines in their class, but are taking part in thermoregulation (maintaining running water rather than frozen in areas which are now ready for progression into warmer biomes) and also are involved in the creation of chillwater, presumably to be picked up later by bellowbacks or shell-walkers. If they only used chillwater to support their function, they would have no reason to create full canisters and leave them on the ground. But if they're sent to areas which are now needed to be warmed up, they can very tidily purify the water while generating the necessary heat through solar power, and generate the chillwater needed by other machines as a byproduct of this warming. It's hard to explain how exactly chillwater actually works, because it's not analogous to a biofuel like blaze is, but there is certainly use for technology that can apply a localized intense cold, and we know that the Old Ones were capable of at least grey goo levels of nanotechnology because of a datapoint that has a first person account of being partially dissolved by it. The Focuses might also run on mechanical nanocomputers, to aid in their miniaturization, though the electric shocks they can emit indicate that at least some of their components, or perhaps their battery and power supply, are conductive. A Focus might use piezoelectricity from its user's movements to charge a capacitor to run the holographic imaging system, while doing its core computing and data storage on a nanocomputer/difference engine. Since we never see Aloy concerned with charging her Focus, it can likely be charged passively or continuously by motion, heat, nonvisual spectrum EM (either naturally occurring or broadcast from Minerva's spires), or even solar power; it is after all getting some routine sunlight when it's found, which might explain why it is in working condition when so many of the ones Sylens found underground were broken.
That's very kind of you to say, thank you. We're only really several months old so we'll keep plugging away at it :) support like this helps tremendously, I really appreciate it. Let me know if you have any topics you want to see covered in a future episode!
I love your content, but there is a small mistake I'd like to point out. At 4:30 in the video, the channel states that Strombirds don't have chill water. However, if we look in game, the Stormbird does carry both chill water and blaze in canisters on its body, specifically on the neck and above the tail respectfully. Please keep making entertaining and amazing videos!
It’s awesome that you correctly predicted that Snapmaws were only the tip of the iceberg of the water machines. The Tideripper is one of my favorite new designs. A video about it would be awesome!
I hope they put the same amount of details in the new machines for the sequel. This really brings the game up to a crazy immersion level. Also, I always wondered why they choose to make the machines like animals "didn't like it at first". They could have really gotten creative with the machine designs. After beating the game and watching your videos, it makes much more sense.
One more function of the storm bird is most probably to supply nitrogen back to the soil which is one of the major nutrients required by plants for growth (other two being phosphorus and potassium). Lighting is one way atmospheric nitrogen can be converted to a state which is available (usable) to plants. Without a rich source of nitrogen, foliage growth would be slow.
This videos are very well done, the theories make a lot of sense, besides they support what I already speculate about this machines functions on the world. This is a very well crafted game.
The stormbird has chillwater. I noticed it freeze once you pop the canisters on top of the bird. Yeah not that easy but it does land from time to time. Cable attacks binding it leave them open as follow up attack.
I'm under the impression that all design and manufacturing is handled by Hephaestus, and only control and coordination is handled by other subfunctions according to the functions of the machine in question.
If I had to guess chillwater might be a collection of impurities, maybe heavy metals. We see snapmaw spit them out, and we know for sure that they clean water, ergo chillwater is a collection pollutants. No clue why it freezes stuff though, maybe it’s a double use thing, being both a collection of stuff and a coolant used by other machines.
I want to correct you about plants turn CO2 to O2 when in fact they just store co2 by binding it with h2 and releasing o2 in the process of Photosynthesis, for short we get o2 from h2o. Naturally, even without plants AETHER machines can make oxygen via lightning.
Isn`t it strange no HZD lore indicates soil pollution? With so much metal on the earth for many years it would definitely increase acid rain probability. Soils would not only be heating up but also polluted with heavy metals after acid rains. There absolutely has to be a machine which purpose was to purify soil from such pollution. And if you think about it, Rockbreaker fits in that role easily. It`s spinning wheels can grind anything and then filter soil from heavy metals.
I don't know if you'll see this but you made a small mistake about the strormbirds they do have chillwater canisters on their neck. Keep up the great work 👍
If forbidden west is gonna be closer to the coast I expect to see more aquatic based robotic life forms maybe a giant robotic whale that rivals the size of a tall neck
@@imani6357 haha don't we all? If you look at the stormbird it's pretty obvious it has a cockpit set up at the head man it would of been pretty bad ass to override those and go on a skyjacked joy-ride!
are there any amphibians or reptiles in the game? I feel like there are but now that I'm thinking about it I can't remember seeing any? It tickles my biology nerve since foodwebs and biomes are so important in sustaining environments that now that you've got me thinking about it, I wouldn't stop until I KNOW.
Hey Owais! Thank you so much for all your kind words! The best way in my book is sharing the content with anyone you think will enjoy it! We're also in the process launching a Patreon, once we have some top notch rewards I'll announce it to the channel :) Thanks for wanting to help our community grow!
Random Side Quest not only wanting to help, i almost want to be part of your team at this point haha. Awesome, will be looking forward to the patreon launch
Bro... I really hope we get huge aquatic machines in Forbidden West. We could have whales the size of skyscrapers and sharks and sea turtles and stuff.
The point about Stormbird`s lightning abilities and ozone layer is a really good one, but its massive engines would seem to pollute the air more than to clean it.
it probably runs using green technology. Sobeck left FAS when he shifted from green projects to war projects and founded her own green robotics company Miriam. She would be able to advise Margo, alpha of HEPHAESTUS, who also left FAS about what would and wouldn't deplete more then it was putting in.
I haven't played the DLC yet, so I'm not sure how it fits in with the base game. I just know that this quest is from the base game, and that you can't finish it until near the end of the game.
I believe Erend has a line "twenty, fifteeen years ago if machines spotted a hunter,they would turn and run, so hunting them was hard,but not dangerous, butnow if they see you they snarl and charge right back" So, no, probably the machines were peaceful before the Derangement (...I listen to Erend a lot)
Considering the fact that repopulating the world is part of the end goal, and since the cauldrons are largely self-sustainable and more than capable of recycling damaged machine remains, I feel like most of them would probably have avoided combat except in the most dire of circumstances (protecting absolutely vital facilities or units).
I thought it was funny that one of the alphas talked about how pointless it would be for then to design machine for gaia but Liz showed like 5 of them in her part and they were all used by gaia
It could be as a secondary power source whenever they work in large bodies of water, and might not be able to recharge their power cells in time. I don't know about the infrastructure in the ocean, but it would make sense to have the machines that go long distances away from supply lines to recharge. There could be some other reasons, but this is the first one I came up with.
The stormbird was a combat class machine which was created by GAIA's subordinate function HEPHAESTUS after the derangement. The death of GAIA meant that each of its subordinate functions could now exist and perform independently. HEPHAESTUS saw the hunting of machines to be a threat to the existing terraforming system and hence initiated the chain of combat class machines starting with the sawtooth. The stormbird was a recent addition to the combat class machines and in no way has any part to play in the terraforming system designed by GAIA. Although the explanation of lightning purifying the air is true, it's possible that that is not the function it is intended to perform. The main function of combat class machines is to protect already existing terraformers and nothing more. Which is why you almost always find a sawtooth among a herd of grazers.
Stormbirds were meant for air purification, as demonstrated during Sobek's presentation, but refitted for combat. Notice on areas with Stormbirds, there tends to not be many other machines in their immediate patrol area. I would guess that has something to due with the EM radiation they generate. The Stormbird were refit with the lightning gun, the easily detachable weapon on its external chest, to defend itself.
*Detail correction, Stormbirds do carry Chillwater*
Thanks man ❤️❤️💕
If you watch an unalerted snapmaw for long enough, it does a rather curious behavior: it submerges itself in the water for a while, then hauls itself onto the shore or into the shallows and coughs up multiple canisters of chillwater. It's possible to wait and see them repeat this cycle for more and more canisters.
My hypothesis is that they are not only purification engines, using the chillwater like other machines in their class, but are taking part in thermoregulation (maintaining running water rather than frozen in areas which are now ready for progression into warmer biomes) and also are involved in the creation of chillwater, presumably to be picked up later by bellowbacks or shell-walkers.
If they only used chillwater to support their function, they would have no reason to create full canisters and leave them on the ground. But if they're sent to areas which are now needed to be warmed up, they can very tidily purify the water while generating the necessary heat through solar power, and generate the chillwater needed by other machines as a byproduct of this warming. It's hard to explain how exactly chillwater actually works, because it's not analogous to a biofuel like blaze is, but there is certainly use for technology that can apply a localized intense cold, and we know that the Old Ones were capable of at least grey goo levels of nanotechnology because of a datapoint that has a first person account of being partially dissolved by it.
The Focuses might also run on mechanical nanocomputers, to aid in their miniaturization, though the electric shocks they can emit indicate that at least some of their components, or perhaps their battery and power supply, are conductive. A Focus might use piezoelectricity from its user's movements to charge a capacitor to run the holographic imaging system, while doing its core computing and data storage on a nanocomputer/difference engine. Since we never see Aloy concerned with charging her Focus, it can likely be charged passively or continuously by motion, heat, nonvisual spectrum EM (either naturally occurring or broadcast from Minerva's spires), or even solar power; it is after all getting some routine sunlight when it's found, which might explain why it is in working condition when so many of the ones Sylens found underground were broken.
Could it be an air scrubbing technique, like dry ice mounds to reduce CO2
Yes yes, I also noticed them doing that as well. Amazing stuff.
Is this the greatest game ever or what?????
Dick Noordzij what?????
What about the last of us?
Edit:I love horizon zero dawn btw
@@qualitygardenchair9334 -- The Last of Us may have a good story, but the gameplay is garbage.
It's not a game. It's a religion.😎
Yes
I really think your channel should get a lot more attention than it does with all the amazing content you produce!
That's very kind of you to say, thank you. We're only really several months old so we'll keep plugging away at it :) support like this helps tremendously, I really appreciate it. Let me know if you have any topics you want to see covered in a future episode!
I love your content, but there is a small mistake I'd like to point out. At 4:30 in the video, the channel states that Strombirds don't have chill water. However, if we look in game, the Stormbird does carry both chill water and blaze in canisters on its body, specifically on the neck and above the tail respectfully. Please keep making entertaining and amazing videos!
Yes, indeed. I even used to shoot their chillwater canister to freeze the machine and take it down faster.
I'm so glad i found your channel. Exactly what I was looking for :)
Thanks so much! Happy to have you in our community!
I love these entries. I binge watch them all the time. I may never play Horizon Zero Dawn, but I love the stories. Keep making them, please!
It’s awesome that you correctly predicted that Snapmaws were only the tip of the iceberg of the water machines. The Tideripper is one of my favorite new designs. A video about it would be awesome!
I hope they put the same amount of details in the new machines for the sequel. This really brings the game up to a crazy immersion level.
Also, I always wondered why they choose to make the machines like animals "didn't like it at first". They could have really gotten creative with the machine designs. After beating the game and watching your videos, it makes much more sense.
One more function of the storm bird is most probably to supply nitrogen back to the soil which is one of the major nutrients required by plants for growth (other two being phosphorus and potassium). Lighting is one way atmospheric nitrogen can be converted to a state which is available (usable) to plants. Without a rich source of nitrogen, foliage growth would be slow.
This videos are very well done, the theories make a lot of sense, besides they support what I already speculate about this machines functions on the world. This is a very well crafted game.
The stormbird has chillwater. I noticed it freeze once you pop the canisters on top of the bird. Yeah not that easy but it does land from time to time. Cable attacks binding it leave them open as follow up attack.
Can't wait to see what you come up with for the sequel!
Cant wait for some ocean machines in Horizon 2!
Me too. I hope for sharks / dolphins mounted underwater combat
Loch ness monster confirmed
@@jekoiqbalreza9600 hell yeah.
Love the content. I dont even play the game. I just love lore.
With swimming going to be explored in the sequel those larger machines that poseidon was meant to make might just appear.
Samuel Buck I would love to see a huge Whale machine!
I'm under the impression that all design and manufacturing is handled by Hephaestus, and only control and coordination is handled by other subfunctions according to the functions of the machine in question.
@@natchu96 Your Right. I didn't know how to word it.
this series is genious! Great job! I meaan It
Fantastic pics Kirsty 😊
But the Stormbird does have chillwater canisters. They are located on it's shoulders.
Thanks that's good to know and keep up the good work :)
If I had to guess chillwater might be a collection of impurities, maybe heavy metals. We see snapmaw spit them out, and we know for sure that they clean water, ergo chillwater is a collection pollutants. No clue why it freezes stuff though, maybe it’s a double use thing, being both a collection of stuff and a coolant used by other machines.
I want to correct you about plants turn CO2 to O2 when in fact they just store co2 by binding it with h2 and releasing o2 in the process of Photosynthesis, for short we get o2 from h2o. Naturally, even without plants AETHER machines can make oxygen via lightning.
Really loved the Stormbirds, overide them and you got personal Sky Guardian.
Keep up the good work!
you have done your research . this is another good video.
Stormbirds DO have 2 chillwater canisters on each side of their neck btw. That's how I killed them most of the time 😅
I would love to see a sequel game or dlc to horizon zero dawn that allows us to see more machines of the Poseidon subfuction
Great videos bro! Keep this up!
You're the HZD equivalent of Monster hunter YTchannel Strawfoot. I dig it.
Stormbirds have chillwater stored to the back of their head/neck and blaze to the rear of trunk towards the tail
I've always had an appreciation for these machines but seeing these videos makes me feel bad for brutally farming them
Isn`t it strange no HZD lore indicates soil pollution? With so much metal on the earth for many years it would definitely increase acid rain probability. Soils would not only be heating up but also polluted with heavy metals after acid rains.
There absolutely has to be a machine which purpose was to purify soil from such pollution.
And if you think about it, Rockbreaker fits in that role easily. It`s spinning wheels can grind anything and then filter soil from heavy metals.
I don't know if you'll see this but you made a small mistake about the strormbirds they do have chillwater canisters on their neck. Keep up the great work 👍
If forbidden west is gonna be closer to the coast I expect to see more aquatic based robotic life forms maybe a giant robotic whale that rivals the size of a tall neck
I just wanna fly lol 😩😩😩
@@imani6357 haha don't we all? If you look at the stormbird it's pretty obvious it has a cockpit set up at the head man it would of been pretty bad ass to override those and go on a skyjacked joy-ride!
@@prvdntus YES!!! And those pterodactyls at the end of the trailer, my soul and wig aren't ready. This game will be sickening
@Muttanna S H yes!! I couldn’t remember the name for the life of me. Thank you
are there any amphibians or reptiles in the game? I feel like there are but now that I'm thinking about it I can't remember seeing any? It tickles my biology nerve since foodwebs and biomes are so important in sustaining environments that now that you've got me thinking about it, I wouldn't stop until I KNOW.
How do I support and aid in publicizing this channel?
Hey Owais!
Thank you so much for all your kind words! The best way in my book is sharing the content with anyone you think will enjoy it! We're also in the process launching a Patreon, once we have some top notch rewards I'll announce it to the channel :) Thanks for wanting to help our community grow!
Random Side Quest not only wanting to help, i almost want to be part of your team at this point haha. Awesome, will be looking forward to the patreon launch
Bro... I really hope we get huge aquatic machines in Forbidden West. We could have whales the size of skyscrapers and sharks and sea turtles and stuff.
Do one on the Corruptors and Deathbringers next LOL
The point about Stormbird`s lightning abilities and ozone layer is a really good one, but its massive engines would seem to pollute the air more than to clean it.
it probably runs using green technology. Sobeck left FAS when he shifted from green projects to war projects and founded her own green robotics company Miriam. She would be able to advise Margo, alpha of HEPHAESTUS, who also left FAS about what would and wouldn't deplete more then it was putting in.
Way to use your brain and think about things
And Fictious. *(**00:00**).*
I have a favorite machines list its all of them but my best is the strider
My favorites are the thunderjaw and the strider
@@summer7034 Thunderjaw is Hephaestus Machine
I just have one question.... What armor is she wearing in the vid?
Shieldweaver...it's gained from a quest, Ancient Armory.
@@maggielee8512 thank you.
@@maggielee8512 can this be giving Thur the frozen wilds dlc?
I haven't played the DLC yet, so I'm not sure how it fits in with the base game. I just know that this quest is from the base game, and that you can't finish it until near the end of the game.
The greatest game ever - fact
Underratted
One thing I'm curious about is if the machines attacked people in self-defence prior to "the derangement."
I believe Erend has a line "twenty, fifteeen years ago if machines spotted a hunter,they would turn and run, so hunting them was hard,but not dangerous, butnow if they see you they snarl and charge right back"
So, no, probably the machines were peaceful before the Derangement
(...I listen to Erend a lot)
Considering the fact that repopulating the world is part of the end goal, and since the cauldrons are largely self-sustainable and more than capable of recycling damaged machine remains, I feel like most of them would probably have avoided combat except in the most dire of circumstances (protecting absolutely vital facilities or units).
@@prototypelq8574 ya I think that change was due to the self destruction of giia, so the machines were on their own but not sure
This makes me think there's a Whale type Machine (or Giant Shark type)
I thought it was funny that one of the alphas talked about how pointless it would be for then to design machine for gaia but Liz showed like 5 of them in her part and they were all used by gaia
Why it seems only Snapmaw use solar panels for power and other machines use power cells?
It could be as a secondary power source whenever they work in large bodies of water, and might not be able to recharge their power cells in time. I don't know about the infrastructure in the ocean, but it would make sense to have the machines that go long distances away from supply lines to recharge. There could be some other reasons, but this is the first one I came up with.
Um the storm bird does have chill water.
Hey, but... the planet looks ok. The project is done, and the planet support life. The robots still are necessary?
Why do these machines have lasers?
Wonder why the called it Aether and not Zeus.
I'm imagining a whale or a kraken model of purifiers .... come to think of it I think the machine seen in the last shot with sylens is a kraken o_o!
You mean after he captures Hades? That was a Horus Titan
@@kristiandahl1310 which was modeled to look like a deep sea creature.
@@OneoftheVoice Regardless of its looks, it's a chariot class and a key part of the Faro Plague, nothing to do with terraforming or purification.
The stormbird was a combat class machine which was created by GAIA's subordinate function HEPHAESTUS after the derangement.
The death of GAIA meant that each of its subordinate functions could now exist and perform independently.
HEPHAESTUS saw the hunting of machines to be a threat to the existing terraforming system and hence initiated the chain of combat class machines starting with the sawtooth.
The stormbird was a recent addition to the combat class machines and in no way has any part to play in the terraforming system designed by GAIA.
Although the explanation of lightning purifying the air is true, it's possible that that is not the function it is intended to perform.
The main function of combat class machines is to protect already existing terraformers and nothing more. Which is why you almost always find a sawtooth among a herd of grazers.
Stormbirds were meant for air purification, as demonstrated during Sobek's presentation, but refitted for combat. Notice on areas with Stormbirds, there tends to not be many other machines in their immediate patrol area. I would guess that has something to due with the EM radiation they generate. The Stormbird were refit with the lightning gun, the easily detachable weapon on its external chest, to defend itself.
image your a giant steel eagle helping to fix the biosphere then 200+ years you get killed by some red head girl with some arrows
Stormbirds do have chillwater...